WEBVTT - The fat envelope: Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>These pictures, they're all black horses winning races. And Rerenzalez says,

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<v Speaker 1>have a closer look, says, listening here a little prick,

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<v Speaker 1>you just jump to the front and it'll win easy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's two envelopes and there's a thin one and there's.

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<v Speaker 2>A fat one.

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<v Speaker 1>If you choose the thin one, that's great. You put

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<v Speaker 1>it in your pocket and after today we don't worry

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<v Speaker 1>about it. If you take the fat one, you're one

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<v Speaker 1>of the team. I'm Andrew Rule. This is life and crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes crime entwines itself with sport or racing or rock

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<v Speaker 1>and roll. And today we're going to have a closer

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<v Speaker 1>look at the history of a criminal called Rick Renzela,

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<v Speaker 1>who got mixed up in the racing game many years ago. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Rerenzela, he's no longer with us. Some long term

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<v Speaker 1>listeners will have heard about him in the past because

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<v Speaker 1>after he died, we went to town on talking about him.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I think we suggested that at his funeral

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<v Speaker 1>that someone checked the coffin to make sure that he

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<v Speaker 1>was in it. That was an exaggeration, but it gives

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<v Speaker 1>you an insight into the sort of person Rick Rensela

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<v Speaker 1>was and He was described by a colleague of mine

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<v Speaker 1>once in print as a man of many parts, most

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<v Speaker 1>of them stolen, which was another great description. Rick Renzella's

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<v Speaker 1>real name was a Vittoria Rensela, and he would have

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<v Speaker 1>grown up as a little boy in Melbourne, speaking Italian

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<v Speaker 1>at home and English at school, and he would have

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<v Speaker 1>been one of that generation of migrant kids who had

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<v Speaker 1>to do the best he could in all ways. And

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<v Speaker 1>instead of working hard and becoming an honest person in

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<v Speaker 1>business or in professions or trades, he went the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a young man he saw the inside of

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<v Speaker 1>boys homes and jails, and he did a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>time for crimes of dishonesty before he turned his mind

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<v Speaker 1>to the sort of legitimate business of second hand car

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<v Speaker 1>dealing and punting. Now these days, secondhand car.

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<v Speaker 2>Dealers are pretty respectable people, because cars these days are

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<v Speaker 2>by and large not as expensive as they once were,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're far more reliable than they once were, and

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<v Speaker 2>by and large they are not sold second, third and

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<v Speaker 2>fourth hand on used car lots the way they used

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<v Speaker 2>to be, and so there.

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<v Speaker 1>Are far fewer dodgy car dealers these days than they

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<v Speaker 1>were back when Rick Loronzela got into the business, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was a very dodgy car dealer, but his real love,

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<v Speaker 1>his real interest, was to beat the system, particularly with

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<v Speaker 1>punting punting on horses, and he made enough money selling

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<v Speaker 1>cars from his car yard down the Nepean Highway to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to invest some of it in racehorses. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I use the word invest lightly. It's not really an investment,

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<v Speaker 1>except Rick thought it was. He thought he could beat

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<v Speaker 1>the system, and indeed, for a while he did. And

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<v Speaker 1>the story goes that one day he was out looking

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<v Speaker 1>at his racehorses at his relatively small time trainers yard.

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<v Speaker 1>His trainer was a guy called McNamara, Alan McNamara, and

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<v Speaker 1>he trained a bit further down the Pen Highway, I

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<v Speaker 1>think originally at mentone or that area, and had stables

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<v Speaker 1>in his backyard. And one day, the story goes, Rick

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<v Speaker 1>Renzella went outside and he patted a black horse, believing

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<v Speaker 1>it to be his black horse code of Penn. It

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<v Speaker 1>actually wasn't. It was another black horse entirely. And I

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<v Speaker 1>suspect that that day Rick Renzella got the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>if the owner of a black horse couldn't easily distinguish

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<v Speaker 1>between it and another one, that looked a bit similar,

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<v Speaker 1>then perhaps it would be a good way to pull

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<v Speaker 1>a ring in to use black horses. And starting from

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<v Speaker 1>that premise, mind you, Rick was pretty dishonest and pretty

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<v Speaker 1>cagy and pretty cunning, so he wouldn't need much encouragement

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<v Speaker 1>to get involved in such a thing. He started to

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<v Speaker 1>buy more black horses, and he had this good horse

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<v Speaker 1>code of Penn, who was good enough to win races

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<v Speaker 1>in town and to run placings in town. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty smart animal. And Rick bought more horses that

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<v Speaker 1>were related to that horse. They were sired by, that is,

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<v Speaker 1>fathered by a particular English stadion that was standing in Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>a horse called I think King Tudor, and King Tudor

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<v Speaker 1>was known as a black horse. Often in racing they

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<v Speaker 1>call him dark browns, but most of us would call

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<v Speaker 1>him black. And he he wasn't a great stadient, He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a great sire of winners. But he did throw

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of horses that looked like himself. They were

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<v Speaker 1>black or dark brown, they didn't have any or much

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<v Speaker 1>white hair on them, and they tended to look a

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<v Speaker 1>bit like each other. So you know, if he had

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<v Speaker 1>a slightly Roman nose, so did many of his progeny.

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<v Speaker 1>He was quite a dominant sire in that sense, and

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<v Speaker 1>so Rick bought quite a few progeny of that stadient,

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<v Speaker 1>and he bought ones that did look like each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And only one of them was the good horse code

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<v Speaker 1>of Pen. The others were relatively ordinary animals. One was

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<v Speaker 1>called Briander Hall, one was called Damien Park, who was

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<v Speaker 1>a full brother of code Pen. He was so keen

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<v Speaker 1>on them he actually bought both King Tudor and joy Gay,

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<v Speaker 1>that being the sire and dam that his father and

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<v Speaker 1>mother of code Pen and Damien Park. And so he

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<v Speaker 1>really ended up with his whole family of horses. He

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<v Speaker 1>kept breeding and buying these black horses that looked like

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<v Speaker 1>each other, and he had a motive, and his motive

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<v Speaker 1>was to pull ringings, and that, of course, is the

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<v Speaker 1>substitute one horse for another. Now, the person that told

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<v Speaker 1>me the ins and outs of this story in detail

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<v Speaker 1>is a former jockey called Stephen Wood, and Stevie Wood

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<v Speaker 1>is an enormously well liked fella. He's now in his

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<v Speaker 1>early seventies. No one says a bad word about him,

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<v Speaker 1>even the police who ended up prosecuting him and ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>sent him to jail for defrauding the public. They actually

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<v Speaker 1>liked him. He's an engaging fellow and for a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who did do some dishonest things, he's actually a very

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<v Speaker 1>honest sort of guy. And later on, interestingly, he did

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<v Speaker 1>very well in business outside racing. But as a youngster

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<v Speaker 1>he was a poor kid. His dad had been a

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<v Speaker 1>jumping jockey who broke his neck riding over jumps and

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<v Speaker 1>had become an alcoholic and then dried out. But Steve

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<v Speaker 1>was one of a big family of poor kids who

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<v Speaker 1>grew up around Caulfield, and he just did the best

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<v Speaker 1>he could. And when he was a very small boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was only thirteen, but they pretended he

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<v Speaker 1>was older. He was apprenticed to a small time trainer

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<v Speaker 1>who was quite a good trainer, quite a good man.

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<v Speaker 1>But young Steve was small for his age, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why his parents thought he could be a jockey. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was so young at this point that he was

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<v Speaker 1>signed up as I suspect a fourteen year old or

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<v Speaker 1>a fifteen year old, but he was actually a year younger.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when he rode in his first race, which

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<v Speaker 1>was in the city, would you believe he wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>his first race at Mooney Valley against legends of the

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<v Speaker 1>turf such as Roy Higgins and Harry White and all

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<v Speaker 1>these great riders. He was so young that he hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>even hit puberty. And he told me he was so

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed in the jockey's room because he was a little,

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<v Speaker 1>tiny kid who looked like a Grade six kid, and

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<v Speaker 1>he went and hit in the toilets to get changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Before his first ride, he'd only had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>jump outs. He'd ridden in a couple of trials down

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<v Speaker 1>at the Epsom Track, I think it was, and on

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<v Speaker 1>this occasion they just sent him out there to ride

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<v Speaker 1>in a race, and he was terrified, he said he

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<v Speaker 1>to this day cannot remember the first half of the

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<v Speaker 1>race how it went. Apparently his horse jumped out slowly

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<v Speaker 1>because he was hanging onto its mouth. He didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>know how to ride it well, and he nearly fell

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<v Speaker 1>off and followed the field and it didn't look great.

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<v Speaker 1>But time past, Stevie Wood grew up a bit. He

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<v Speaker 1>started to win a few races and he would be

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<v Speaker 1>sent to the country tracks and he would win a

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<v Speaker 1>few races, and back in those days racing was not

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<v Speaker 1>as big a an industry as it is now. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't race every day of the week the way they

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<v Speaker 1>do now. Back in those days, they would race a

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<v Speaker 1>few meetings in the country on weekends. Of course, they

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<v Speaker 1>would have a Saturday city meeting, and they'd have a

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<v Speaker 1>midweek meeting, and they'd be the odd midweek meeting in

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<v Speaker 1>the country. So most jockeys, the big good jockeys, would

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<v Speaker 1>ride midweek in Melbourne Saturday Melbourne, not go to the

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<v Speaker 1>bush much maybe where it be maybe Geelong, but not

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<v Speaker 1>too far. And the lesser lights, especially apprentices, would go

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<v Speaker 1>to those country meetings, So they'd ride midweek at Baneala

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<v Speaker 1>or Wangorada or Sale or Bensdale or wherever it might

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<v Speaker 1>be on Saturday meetings at those same sort of venues,

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<v Speaker 1>and little Stevie would picked up his act and he

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<v Speaker 1>got to be a much better job. He tells me

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<v Speaker 1>that his friend and contemporary Paul Jarman, was a star jockey.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a bit older and a bit better, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was a top writer who outrode his apprentice claim

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<v Speaker 1>while still an apprentice. He rode so many winners that

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<v Speaker 1>he could no longer claim the weight allowance that apprentices

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<v Speaker 1>get the other one at the time was his friend

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<v Speaker 1>Lye Hope, who was a very good young jockey. But

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Wood was probably running third or fourth behind those

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<v Speaker 1>good guys, and so he made a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>name for himself. Stevie. You know, like all young jockeys,

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<v Speaker 1>he grows up fast, he gets a bit heavier, and

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<v Speaker 1>he develops a few bad habits. His trainer that his boss,

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<v Speaker 1>trainer was a guy who didn't drink or smoke and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like his apprentices staying out late or staying out

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<v Speaker 1>running around with bad people and all the backslappers that

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<v Speaker 1>get involved in racing. And Stevie got involved with going

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<v Speaker 1>to parties and getting on the drink and chasing girls

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, and his boss said that's no good,

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<v Speaker 1>that's no way to behave. I don't want you to

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<v Speaker 1>ride for me, and being a smart ass sixteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old little Stevie would decided that he would leave his

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<v Speaker 1>boss and go and ride freelance. Now that was not

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<v Speaker 1>a great decision. He should have pulled his horns in

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<v Speaker 1>and done the right thing, but he didn't. And what

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<v Speaker 1>happened was he went from being a pretty good city

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<v Speaker 1>based apprentice who used to get some rides in town

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<v Speaker 1>and win a few in town as well as on

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<v Speaker 1>the country circuit. He ended up taking a job from

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<v Speaker 1>a famous old Bendigo train called George Daniels. George Daniels

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<v Speaker 1>had been a lighthorseman in World War One and he

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<v Speaker 1>came back to Bendigo. I think he had part of

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<v Speaker 1>his foot shot off. He was probably a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a war hero really, and he trained both gallopers and trotters.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think if somebody bothers to look up the records,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll find that George Daniels one not only group races,

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<v Speaker 1>black type races with gallopers, notably the Great Sailor's Guide,

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<v Speaker 1>a famous galloper back in the sixties, and he won

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<v Speaker 1>group races with harness horces trotting horses.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Great all round trainer and a very good man and

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<v Speaker 1>well thought of. He said to Stevie, you're not traveling

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<v Speaker 1>that well down in town now you've left your trainer.

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<v Speaker 1>Are You're not getting many city rides. You've now just

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<v Speaker 1>got married because you had to, And this is true.

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<v Speaker 1>Stevie was by this stage nineteen and married and had

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<v Speaker 1>a child on the way. He said, why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>come to Bendigo. I can't offer you a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>money as a retainer, but I'll give you enough to

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<v Speaker 1>pay your rent each week. It might have been twenty

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<v Speaker 1>bucks back then it was enough to rent a house.

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<v Speaker 1>Will guarantee you plenty of rides and therefore plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>winners because you're a good country rider, and I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>to put you on all my best chances. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when it gets to nineteen seventy one, Stevie Wood has

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<v Speaker 1>been riding for maybe three or four years. He's at Bendigo.

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<v Speaker 1>He's doing the best he can. He's riding a few

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<v Speaker 1>country winners. He's not as enthusiastic as he used to

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<v Speaker 1>be because he knows he's sort of closed the door

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<v Speaker 1>on being a successful city rider. And he gets a

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<v Speaker 1>call this day from this trainer McNamara, who he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really know well, who said, I want to book you

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<v Speaker 1>to ride a horse at Bendigo on Corfield Cup Day. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the big race meeting at Bendio on Corfield Cup Day

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<v Speaker 1>was an annual event, attracted a lot of people, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of horses, and a lot of bookmakers, very strong meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Stevie accepts the ride because, you know, why not. He's

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<v Speaker 1>on a thing called Brianda Hall. He's never really hurt it.

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<v Speaker 1>But he looks up the form and it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a forty to one shot. It's not much good,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's last start at ben nowhere and here

0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:13.760
<v Speaker 1>it is in a stronger grade against better horses and

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<v Speaker 1>it's basically the long shot of the field. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was forty to one. He says, yeah, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>just for the losing fee. When he gets the races,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just another thing he's going to do that day.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not taking much notice when the trainer of Brianda Hall,

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<v Speaker 1>Alan McNamara, comes into the jockey's room. He brings in

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<v Speaker 1>the colors, the colors that you wear, the silk colors,

0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's there to pick up the saddle from Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Wood to saddle the horse. And this is a transaction

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<v Speaker 1>that happens, you know, one hundred and twenty times at

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<v Speaker 1>every race meeting. Trainers come in, they talked to the jockey,

0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.200
<v Speaker 1>say and the colors, they get the saddle, I saddle

0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the horse. It's routine. But Stevie Wood notices that Alan

0:14:55.680 --> 0:15:00.320
<v Speaker 1>McNamara is very nervous. He's stuttering and stammering and he's

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<v Speaker 1>sweating and he can't sort of make it much sense.

0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And Steve Wood sort of shrugs it oft and sins, well,

0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.720
<v Speaker 1>work cares. This thing hasn't got a chance anyway. It

0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.720
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really matter if he tells me how to ride it.

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<v Speaker 1>It can't help. So he goes out and he gets

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<v Speaker 1>legged up. Now the funny thing is that Alan McNamara

0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't speak to him. It's the owner of the horse,

0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:26.320
<v Speaker 1>a man called Rick Renzla, that Steve Wood had met

0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.720
<v Speaker 1>once before, had ridden a winner for him at Banella,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, up in the northeast. And he remembered that

0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Rick Wenzella had paid him a big sling. He must

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<v Speaker 1>have backed this winner in the northeast and at one

0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and Renzala had slung him serious money, several hundred dollars,

0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.280
<v Speaker 1>which was a lot of done in those days. It

0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.560
<v Speaker 1>was like getting several thousand dollars now. And so he

0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:57.680
<v Speaker 1>was kindly disposed towards Rerenzala. But Renzella grabs him, leads

0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.560
<v Speaker 1>him over to the horse Branda Hall, or the horse

0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that is supposed to be Branda Hall, and Legimutin says,

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<v Speaker 1>listen here, a little prick, you just jump to the

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<v Speaker 1>front and it'll win easy. Just stay out of trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Jump to the front, stay out of trouble. It'll win easy.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, Stevie Wood looks at the bedding toe

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<v Speaker 1>to odds on the big board and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's forty to one, and he goes, really, what makes

0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.080
<v Speaker 1>you think that? Ranzela says, listen, just do it. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you words to that effect.

0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Pretty tough, pretty brisk, pretty.

0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Brusk, and Wood just picks up the reins, rides a

0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.240
<v Speaker 1>horse out on the track and he gets over on

0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.840
<v Speaker 1>its neck and acts it along with the straight to

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<v Speaker 1>the start and he looks up the toe board. It

0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:50.280
<v Speaker 1>hasn't changed. It stayed the same. So he thinks this

0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.200
<v Speaker 1>is strange. They think it's going to win, but no

0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.240
<v Speaker 1>one's backing it, at least on the track. So he

0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:00.880
<v Speaker 1>goes round to the start and it jumps well, he

0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.640
<v Speaker 1>jumps it out and it goes to the front. And

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<v Speaker 1>the further they go, the further ahead it gets, which

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<v Speaker 1>was probably a tactical error in some respects. It was

0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.399
<v Speaker 1>a distant race. It was I think two thousand meters

0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.800
<v Speaker 1>as we say now. And when he comes around to

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<v Speaker 1>the head of the strait the second time, because it's

0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.760
<v Speaker 1>a full circuit plus a bit. He said, I'm flat

0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.440
<v Speaker 1>out hearing the other horses hoofbeats. Normally in a race,

0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you can hear the other jockeys talking to each other,

0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.639
<v Speaker 1>you can hear the hoofbeads, you can hear the whips,

0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you can hear everything. He said, I'm out so far

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<v Speaker 1>in front that I can't hear anything. And I look

0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.600
<v Speaker 1>over my shoulder and I realize I'm lengths in front.

0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.440
<v Speaker 1>But my horse just keeps going. He said, I've got

0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:45.159
<v Speaker 1>a lap full of horses. Jockeys say, it's a great feeling.

0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.159
<v Speaker 1>You're in the straight in front and your horse is

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<v Speaker 1>full of running. So I just let him stride along.

0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:53.919
<v Speaker 1>And he said, I think it was a record margin

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<v Speaker 1>that year. I think it won by twelve or fifteen lengths.

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<v Speaker 1>The horse wins, he goes in, picks up the that

0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:05.479
<v Speaker 1>goes into to do correct weight, and he's called him

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<v Speaker 1>by the stewarts as the trainer and the owner, and

0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.800
<v Speaker 1>he wisely decides that he need not share with the

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<v Speaker 1>stewards the information that the owner told him it would

0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.280
<v Speaker 1>bolt in. And he says, I got no idea I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought I was going around for the losing ride

0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.960
<v Speaker 1>money and it went really well. I've got no idea why.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, at the back of his mind he's thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that these guys have hit the horse with a go

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<v Speaker 1>fast drug, one of the early drugs that started to

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<v Speaker 1>be used back in that era. And he's sure that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a drug thing and that the stewards will be

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<v Speaker 1>on the case. But he's puzzled because he realizes that

0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.320
<v Speaker 1>it hasn't been backed. Of course, there's no sign that's

0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.040
<v Speaker 1>went back. It won the race at forty to one,

0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:00.000
<v Speaker 1>no money's gone on, and he thinks, well, it's a miss.

0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:04.240
<v Speaker 1>And Rick Renzela said to the stewart's last start, you

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<v Speaker 1>know my horse here we got its tongue over the

0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.280
<v Speaker 1>bit and didn't run well. It choked down, it couldn't

0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:13.399
<v Speaker 1>gallop properly, and I was very confident today that it

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<v Speaker 1>would go better.

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<v Speaker 2>Et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all so much eyewash. The trainer is just

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<v Speaker 1>nodding and smiling and agreeing with Rick Renzelle, and the

0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.879
<v Speaker 1>stewards dismissed the inquiry. They decide it's just one of

0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.600
<v Speaker 1>those weird things that happens, and the main reason they

0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:35.080
<v Speaker 1>dismissed the inquiry is that there's no sign of the

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<v Speaker 1>money going on. Later on, Renzella talks to Steve Wood,

0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and Wood says, well, I don't know much, but I

0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.200
<v Speaker 1>know that if a horse starts at forty to one,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't put anything on it, and therefore nobody's got

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<v Speaker 1>any money out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to back it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Renzelle says, you come to a barbecue at my

0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:59.240
<v Speaker 1>place tomorrow down in this address in Brighton, hands him

0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.480
<v Speaker 1>an address and we'll have a whack up of the

0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 1>money and I'll explain it to you then. And young

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Stevie Wood sees to be young wife. We'll be going

0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:16.439
<v Speaker 1>to a barbecue down in Brighton tomorrow, Sunday barbecue, and

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.320
<v Speaker 1>we're not going to miss it because I don't know

0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.560
<v Speaker 1>what they're up to, but there's plenty of money in

0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it by the sound of it. So they get in

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the blue Pontiac that Rick Grinsela had at some stage

0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:30.520
<v Speaker 1>earlier sold to young Steve Would and they drive down

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<v Speaker 1>the road in this thing that's like a waterbed cross

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<v Speaker 1>with a cabin cruiser, and they pull up at the

0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.439
<v Speaker 1>address in Brighton, and it's a nice house in a

0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.119
<v Speaker 1>street full of very nice houses, you know, doctor's lawyers,

0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:45.760
<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff. And he goes in and

0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:49.560
<v Speaker 1>there's missus Rinzale. She was a very handsome woman, beautifully dressed,

0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:54.320
<v Speaker 1>very polite. Da Da Da da da. And there's the trainer,

0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Allan McNamara, looking much happier than he had at the races.

0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:05.199
<v Speaker 1>And there's a guy called Rookie who was Renzale's driver,

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.600
<v Speaker 1>which is code for a bodyguard. And Rookie was a

0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.199
<v Speaker 1>tough guy that Steve would actually got to like. He

0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:12.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of liked him. And he said there was a

0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.239
<v Speaker 1>guy there called Fred from Sydney. He said, I never

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.159
<v Speaker 1>knew his real name. He was just Fred from Sydney.

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Always had a gun under his arm, under his coat,

0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and he said I didn't like him at all. He

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:25.359
<v Speaker 1>was quite spooky. And there was a few others. He

0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.480
<v Speaker 1>said it was a big car dealer there, well known

0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:30.919
<v Speaker 1>car dealer that used to advertise cars on television at

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:32.960
<v Speaker 1>that time. He said, I don't know what he was

0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 1>doing there, but he was there, and a few other people.

0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:40.760
<v Speaker 1>And at some point during the barbecue, Renzalez had a

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:42.639
<v Speaker 1>couple of bees, and he says, Stevie, you better come

0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:44.639
<v Speaker 1>over and talk to him in the office. So he

0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:47.960
<v Speaker 1>leads him into the office in the house and into

0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:51.359
<v Speaker 1>his study thing, and he says, you want to know

0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:53.439
<v Speaker 1>what happened yesterday? He said, look at these pictures on

0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the wall. And Wood looks at the wall and goes, oh,

0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:02.919
<v Speaker 1>there's Code of Penn Flemington or whatever he did. And

0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:06.480
<v Speaker 1>there's Code Pen again winning somewhere. And there's Brianda Hall

0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:10.400
<v Speaker 1>at such and such, and there's Damian Park at such

0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 1>and such. These pictures, they're all black horses winning races,

0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and Werenzealous says, have a closer look. And he has

0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.440
<v Speaker 1>a close look and he realizes it's all the same

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:24.920
<v Speaker 1>horse that in fact, there are supposed to be three

0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:27.879
<v Speaker 1>different horses, and these photos on the walls, but only

0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:32.440
<v Speaker 1>one of them is in each frame. In other words,

0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:35.200
<v Speaker 1>these are ringings. And that is when the penny drops

0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>for young Steve Wood that it's a ringing, not a

0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:42.720
<v Speaker 1>drug thing. And he said, but Rick, how did you

0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:44.720
<v Speaker 1>get money out of it? You didn't back it, And

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Rick says, so I did, but I didn't back it.

0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.119
<v Speaker 1>On course, what I did was, you know what the

0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:51.879
<v Speaker 1>of course daily double is with the tab and he

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.639
<v Speaker 1>said yeah. He said, well, what I do is I

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 1>couple up my sure thing in the second leg with

0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 1>restarter in the first leg. I back each combination from

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the first leg with my horse in the second, and

0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 1>that way, no matter what wins the first leg. And

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:13.359
<v Speaker 1>you hope it's a longer shot. You hope it's at

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>ten to one shot, not a hot favorite. We've got

0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:20.200
<v Speaker 1>it in the second with a horse that no one

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 1>else in the world has backed. It's just an aberration.

0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.919
<v Speaker 1>And so we scooped the pool and he said, I've

0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 1>got twenty six thousand dollars out of the pool yesterday.

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 1>And in that year nineteen seventy one, a year that

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 1>I sadly can remember, twenty six thousand dollars was the

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:41.199
<v Speaker 1>price of two good houses in a country town. And

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean by that a country town like Sale or

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Bensdale to Ragon not owe you no somewhere. And it

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 1>was the price of a pretty good house and maybe

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:57.399
<v Speaker 1>a car in outer suburban Melbourne. It was serious money

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that could change a young jockey's life, that sort of money.

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 1>These days, the comparison houses are worth so much more now.

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know these days. You probably need to win

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.679
<v Speaker 1>three quarters of a million dollars or a million dollars

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>to have the same actual effect on your life. Rinzala says,

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 1>so you understand now, And Steve would says all right,

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.879
<v Speaker 1>and Rinzale says, now, I don't expect you necessarily to

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 1>want to stick with the crew here. But he's two

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.640
<v Speaker 1>envelopes and there's a thin one and there's a fat one.

0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>If you choose a thin one, that's great. You put

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 1>it in your pocket and after today we don't worry

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 1>about it. If you take the fat one, you're one

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:44.200
<v Speaker 1>of the team. And little Stevie Wood made a faithful decision.

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>He took the fat one. I mean, he's nineteen or

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty or whatever. I think they've got a little kid,

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and his wife's pregnant again, and you know, he's just

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>young and a bit silly and like most of us,

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.199
<v Speaker 1>a big greedy. So he took the fat one, and

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:03.919
<v Speaker 1>being a jockey is a risk taket. They have another

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>sausage and a beer, and he and his wife hop

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>in the car for the long trip back to Bendigo.

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>And they hop in and they drive around the corner

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and they pull up. He said, we've got to open

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that envelope, and he tears it open, and his wife,

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>who was a very respectable young woman who was well

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>brought up and didn't swear, she said, shit, shit, shit.

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 1>She'd never seen so much money as was in this envelope. Now,

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>it must have been in the thousands, like two or

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 1>three or four or five thousand dollars. It was serious money,

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 1>and the sort of money that would pay their rent

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 1>for two years, and you know, give him a deposit

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>on a house, whatever it might be. And so they

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 1>put the envelope in the glove box and they drifted Bendigo,

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and this is how it started for Stevie Wood. He

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 1>becomes Frinzella's race stage jockey in the Ringings. Looking back

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.919
<v Speaker 1>on it, the choice to take the fat envelope not

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:03.679
<v Speaker 1>the skinny envelope was the one that derailed his life

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>because by making that choice, he actually handcuffed himself to

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:13.720
<v Speaker 1>a very bad and violent man, Rickrenzla, Because later on,

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 1>when he did want to pull out, did say to Lorenzla,

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can get away with doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for this reason, it's too risky. For that reason, Renzilla

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<v Speaker 1>turned nasty snarled at him and said, listen, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee that you won't end up dead up an alley

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<v Speaker 1>or floating in the era. And that is when Steve

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<v Speaker 1>would realize that he was in too deep and it

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<v Speaker 1>was safer to go along with somebody like Wensella then

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<v Speaker 1>to go against him. Next episode, we're going to look

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<v Speaker 1>at how Stevie would got more deeply involved in dishonesty

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<v Speaker 1>and race rigging until eventually he was in so deep

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't get out without going to jail. Thanks for listening.

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