1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: These pictures, they're all black horses winning races. And Rerenzalez says, 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: have a closer look, says, listening here a little prick, 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: you just jump to the front and it'll win easy. 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: He's two envelopes and there's a thin one and there's. 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: A fat one. 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: If you choose the thin one, that's great. You put 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: it in your pocket and after today we don't worry 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: about it. If you take the fat one, you're one 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: of the team. I'm Andrew Rule. This is life and crimes. 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes crime entwines itself with sport or racing or rock 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: and roll. And today we're going to have a closer 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: look at the history of a criminal called Rick Renzela, 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: who got mixed up in the racing game many years ago. Now, 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Rick Rerenzela, he's no longer with us. Some long term 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: listeners will have heard about him in the past because 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: after he died, we went to town on talking about him. 17 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: In fact, I think we suggested that at his funeral 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: that someone checked the coffin to make sure that he 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: was in it. That was an exaggeration, but it gives 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: you an insight into the sort of person Rick Rensela 21 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: was and He was described by a colleague of mine 22 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: once in print as a man of many parts, most 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: of them stolen, which was another great description. Rick Renzella's 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: real name was a Vittoria Rensela, and he would have 25 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: grown up as a little boy in Melbourne, speaking Italian 26 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: at home and English at school, and he would have 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: been one of that generation of migrant kids who had 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: to do the best he could in all ways. And 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: instead of working hard and becoming an honest person in 30 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: business or in professions or trades, he went the other way. 31 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: And as a young man he saw the inside of 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: boys homes and jails, and he did a bit of 33 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: time for crimes of dishonesty before he turned his mind 34 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: to the sort of legitimate business of second hand car 35 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: dealing and punting. Now these days, secondhand car. 36 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: Dealers are pretty respectable people, because cars these days are 37 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: by and large not as expensive as they once were, 38 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: and they're far more reliable than they once were, and 39 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: by and large they are not sold second, third and 40 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 2: fourth hand on used car lots the way they used 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: to be, and so there. 42 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Are far fewer dodgy car dealers these days than they 43 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: were back when Rick Loronzela got into the business, and 44 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: he was a very dodgy car dealer, but his real love, 45 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: his real interest, was to beat the system, particularly with 46 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: punting punting on horses, and he made enough money selling 47 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: cars from his car yard down the Nepean Highway to 48 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: be able to invest some of it in racehorses. Now 49 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: I use the word invest lightly. It's not really an investment, 50 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: except Rick thought it was. He thought he could beat 51 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: the system, and indeed, for a while he did. And 52 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: the story goes that one day he was out looking 53 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: at his racehorses at his relatively small time trainers yard. 54 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: His trainer was a guy called McNamara, Alan McNamara, and 55 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: he trained a bit further down the Pen Highway, I 56 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: think originally at mentone or that area, and had stables 57 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: in his backyard. And one day, the story goes, Rick 58 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: Renzella went outside and he patted a black horse, believing 59 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: it to be his black horse code of Penn. It 60 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: actually wasn't. It was another black horse entirely. And I 61 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: suspect that that day Rick Renzella got the idea that 62 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: if the owner of a black horse couldn't easily distinguish 63 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: between it and another one, that looked a bit similar, 64 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: then perhaps it would be a good way to pull 65 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: a ring in to use black horses. And starting from 66 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: that premise, mind you, Rick was pretty dishonest and pretty 67 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: cagy and pretty cunning, so he wouldn't need much encouragement 68 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: to get involved in such a thing. He started to 69 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: buy more black horses, and he had this good horse 70 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: code of Penn, who was good enough to win races 71 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: in town and to run placings in town. He was 72 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: a pretty smart animal. And Rick bought more horses that 73 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: were related to that horse. They were sired by, that is, 74 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: fathered by a particular English stadion that was standing in Australia, 75 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: a horse called I think King Tudor, and King Tudor 76 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: was known as a black horse. Often in racing they 77 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: call him dark browns, but most of us would call 78 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: him black. And he he wasn't a great stadient, He 79 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: wasn't a great sire of winners. But he did throw 80 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: a lot of horses that looked like himself. They were 81 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: black or dark brown, they didn't have any or much 82 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: white hair on them, and they tended to look a 83 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: bit like each other. So you know, if he had 84 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: a slightly Roman nose, so did many of his progeny. 85 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: He was quite a dominant sire in that sense, and 86 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: so Rick bought quite a few progeny of that stadient, 87 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: and he bought ones that did look like each other. 88 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: And only one of them was the good horse code 89 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: of Pen. The others were relatively ordinary animals. One was 90 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: called Briander Hall, one was called Damien Park, who was 91 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: a full brother of code Pen. He was so keen 92 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: on them he actually bought both King Tudor and joy Gay, 93 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: that being the sire and dam that his father and 94 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: mother of code Pen and Damien Park. And so he 95 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: really ended up with his whole family of horses. He 96 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: kept breeding and buying these black horses that looked like 97 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: each other, and he had a motive, and his motive 98 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: was to pull ringings, and that, of course, is the 99 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: substitute one horse for another. Now, the person that told 100 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: me the ins and outs of this story in detail 101 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: is a former jockey called Stephen Wood, and Stevie Wood 102 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: is an enormously well liked fella. He's now in his 103 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: early seventies. No one says a bad word about him, 104 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: even the police who ended up prosecuting him and ultimately 105 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: sent him to jail for defrauding the public. They actually 106 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: liked him. He's an engaging fellow and for a guy 107 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: who did do some dishonest things, he's actually a very 108 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: honest sort of guy. And later on, interestingly, he did 109 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: very well in business outside racing. But as a youngster 110 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: he was a poor kid. His dad had been a 111 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: jumping jockey who broke his neck riding over jumps and 112 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: had become an alcoholic and then dried out. But Steve 113 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: was one of a big family of poor kids who 114 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: grew up around Caulfield, and he just did the best 115 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: he could. And when he was a very small boy, 116 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: I think he was only thirteen, but they pretended he 117 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: was older. He was apprenticed to a small time trainer 118 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: who was quite a good trainer, quite a good man. 119 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: But young Steve was small for his age, which is 120 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: why his parents thought he could be a jockey. And 121 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: he was so young at this point that he was 122 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: signed up as I suspect a fourteen year old or 123 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: a fifteen year old, but he was actually a year younger. 124 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: And so when he rode in his first race, which 125 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: was in the city, would you believe he wrote in 126 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: his first race at Mooney Valley against legends of the 127 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: turf such as Roy Higgins and Harry White and all 128 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: these great riders. He was so young that he hadn't 129 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: even hit puberty. And he told me he was so 130 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: embarrassed in the jockey's room because he was a little, 131 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: tiny kid who looked like a Grade six kid, and 132 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: he went and hit in the toilets to get changed. 133 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: Before his first ride, he'd only had a couple of 134 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: jump outs. He'd ridden in a couple of trials down 135 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: at the Epsom Track, I think it was, and on 136 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: this occasion they just sent him out there to ride 137 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: in a race, and he was terrified, he said he 138 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: to this day cannot remember the first half of the 139 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: race how it went. Apparently his horse jumped out slowly 140 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: because he was hanging onto its mouth. He didn't really 141 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: know how to ride it well, and he nearly fell 142 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: off and followed the field and it didn't look great. 143 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: But time past, Stevie Wood grew up a bit. He 144 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: started to win a few races and he would be 145 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: sent to the country tracks and he would win a 146 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: few races, and back in those days racing was not 147 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: as big a an industry as it is now. They 148 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: didn't race every day of the week the way they 149 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: do now. Back in those days, they would race a 150 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: few meetings in the country on weekends. Of course, they 151 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: would have a Saturday city meeting, and they'd have a 152 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: midweek meeting, and they'd be the odd midweek meeting in 153 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: the country. So most jockeys, the big good jockeys, would 154 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: ride midweek in Melbourne Saturday Melbourne, not go to the 155 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: bush much maybe where it be maybe Geelong, but not 156 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: too far. And the lesser lights, especially apprentices, would go 157 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: to those country meetings, So they'd ride midweek at Baneala 158 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: or Wangorada or Sale or Bensdale or wherever it might 159 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: be on Saturday meetings at those same sort of venues, 160 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: and little Stevie would picked up his act and he 161 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: got to be a much better job. He tells me 162 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: that his friend and contemporary Paul Jarman, was a star jockey. 163 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: He was a bit older and a bit better, and 164 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: he was a top writer who outrode his apprentice claim 165 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: while still an apprentice. He rode so many winners that 166 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: he could no longer claim the weight allowance that apprentices 167 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: get the other one at the time was his friend 168 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: Lye Hope, who was a very good young jockey. But 169 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: Steve Wood was probably running third or fourth behind those 170 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: good guys, and so he made a bit of a 171 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: name for himself. Stevie. You know, like all young jockeys, 172 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: he grows up fast, he gets a bit heavier, and 173 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: he develops a few bad habits. His trainer that his boss, 174 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: trainer was a guy who didn't drink or smoke and 175 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: didn't like his apprentices staying out late or staying out 176 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: running around with bad people and all the backslappers that 177 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: get involved in racing. And Stevie got involved with going 178 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: to parties and getting on the drink and chasing girls 179 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: and all that, and his boss said that's no good, 180 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: that's no way to behave. I don't want you to 181 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: ride for me, and being a smart ass sixteen year 182 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: old little Stevie would decided that he would leave his 183 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: boss and go and ride freelance. Now that was not 184 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: a great decision. He should have pulled his horns in 185 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: and done the right thing, but he didn't. And what 186 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: happened was he went from being a pretty good city 187 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: based apprentice who used to get some rides in town 188 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: and win a few in town as well as on 189 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: the country circuit. He ended up taking a job from 190 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: a famous old Bendigo train called George Daniels. George Daniels 191 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: had been a lighthorseman in World War One and he 192 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: came back to Bendigo. I think he had part of 193 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: his foot shot off. He was probably a bit of 194 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: a war hero really, and he trained both gallopers and trotters. 195 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: And I think if somebody bothers to look up the records, 196 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: I'll find that George Daniels one not only group races, 197 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: black type races with gallopers, notably the Great Sailor's Guide, 198 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: a famous galloper back in the sixties, and he won 199 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: group races with harness horces trotting horses. 200 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: So he was a. 201 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: Great all round trainer and a very good man and 202 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: well thought of. He said to Stevie, you're not traveling 203 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: that well down in town now you've left your trainer. 204 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: Are You're not getting many city rides. You've now just 205 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: got married because you had to, And this is true. 206 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: Stevie was by this stage nineteen and married and had 207 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: a child on the way. He said, why don't you 208 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: come to Bendigo. I can't offer you a lot of 209 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: money as a retainer, but I'll give you enough to 210 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: pay your rent each week. It might have been twenty 211 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: bucks back then it was enough to rent a house. 212 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: Will guarantee you plenty of rides and therefore plenty of 213 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: winners because you're a good country rider, and I'm happy 214 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: to put you on all my best chances. And so 215 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: when it gets to nineteen seventy one, Stevie Wood has 216 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: been riding for maybe three or four years. He's at Bendigo. 217 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: He's doing the best he can. He's riding a few 218 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: country winners. He's not as enthusiastic as he used to 219 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: be because he knows he's sort of closed the door 220 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: on being a successful city rider. And he gets a 221 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: call this day from this trainer McNamara, who he didn't 222 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: really know well, who said, I want to book you 223 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: to ride a horse at Bendigo on Corfield Cup Day. Now, 224 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: the big race meeting at Bendio on Corfield Cup Day 225 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: was an annual event, attracted a lot of people, a 226 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: lot of horses, and a lot of bookmakers, very strong meeting. 227 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: Stevie accepts the ride because, you know, why not. He's 228 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: on a thing called Brianda Hall. He's never really hurt it. 229 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: But he looks up the form and it's going to 230 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: be a forty to one shot. It's not much good, 231 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: you know, it's last start at ben nowhere and here 232 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: it is in a stronger grade against better horses and 233 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: it's basically the long shot of the field. I think 234 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: it was forty to one. He says, yeah, yeah, right, 235 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: just for the losing fee. When he gets the races, 236 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: it's just another thing he's going to do that day. 237 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: He's not taking much notice when the trainer of Brianda Hall, 238 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: Alan McNamara, comes into the jockey's room. He brings in 239 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: the colors, the colors that you wear, the silk colors, 240 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: and he's there to pick up the saddle from Steve 241 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: Wood to saddle the horse. And this is a transaction 242 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: that happens, you know, one hundred and twenty times at 243 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: every race meeting. Trainers come in, they talked to the jockey, 244 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: say and the colors, they get the saddle, I saddle 245 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: the horse. It's routine. But Stevie Wood notices that Alan 246 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: McNamara is very nervous. He's stuttering and stammering and he's 247 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: sweating and he can't sort of make it much sense. 248 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: And Steve Wood sort of shrugs it oft and sins, well, 249 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: work cares. This thing hasn't got a chance anyway. It 250 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter if he tells me how to ride it. 251 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: It can't help. So he goes out and he gets 252 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: legged up. Now the funny thing is that Alan McNamara 253 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: doesn't speak to him. It's the owner of the horse, 254 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: a man called Rick Renzla, that Steve Wood had met 255 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: once before, had ridden a winner for him at Banella, 256 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: I think, up in the northeast. And he remembered that 257 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: Rick Wenzella had paid him a big sling. He must 258 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: have backed this winner in the northeast and at one 259 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: and Renzala had slung him serious money, several hundred dollars, 260 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: which was a lot of done in those days. It 261 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: was like getting several thousand dollars now. And so he 262 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: was kindly disposed towards Rerenzala. But Renzella grabs him, leads 263 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: him over to the horse Branda Hall, or the horse 264 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: that is supposed to be Branda Hall, and Legimutin says, 265 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: listen here, a little prick, you just jump to the 266 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: front and it'll win easy. Just stay out of trouble. 267 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: Jump to the front, stay out of trouble. It'll win easy. 268 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: At this point, Stevie Wood looks at the bedding toe 269 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: to odds on the big board and it's you know, 270 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: it's forty to one, and he goes, really, what makes 271 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: you think that? Ranzela says, listen, just do it. I'll 272 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: tell you words to that effect. 273 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: Pretty tough, pretty brisk, pretty. 274 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: Brusk, and Wood just picks up the reins, rides a 275 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: horse out on the track and he gets over on 276 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: its neck and acts it along with the straight to 277 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: the start and he looks up the toe board. It 278 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: hasn't changed. It stayed the same. So he thinks this 279 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: is strange. They think it's going to win, but no 280 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: one's backing it, at least on the track. So he 281 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: goes round to the start and it jumps well, he 282 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: jumps it out and it goes to the front. And 283 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: the further they go, the further ahead it gets, which 284 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: was probably a tactical error in some respects. It was 285 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: a distant race. It was I think two thousand meters 286 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: as we say now. And when he comes around to 287 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: the head of the strait the second time, because it's 288 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: a full circuit plus a bit. He said, I'm flat 289 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: out hearing the other horses hoofbeats. Normally in a race, 290 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: you can hear the other jockeys talking to each other, 291 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: you can hear the hoofbeads, you can hear the whips, 292 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: you can hear everything. He said, I'm out so far 293 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: in front that I can't hear anything. And I look 294 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: over my shoulder and I realize I'm lengths in front. 295 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: But my horse just keeps going. He said, I've got 296 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: a lap full of horses. Jockeys say, it's a great feeling. 297 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: You're in the straight in front and your horse is 298 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: full of running. So I just let him stride along. 299 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: And he said, I think it was a record margin 300 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: that year. I think it won by twelve or fifteen lengths. 301 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: The horse wins, he goes in, picks up the that 302 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: goes into to do correct weight, and he's called him 303 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: by the stewarts as the trainer and the owner, and 304 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: he wisely decides that he need not share with the 305 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: stewards the information that the owner told him it would 306 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: bolt in. And he says, I got no idea I 307 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: just thought I was going around for the losing ride 308 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: money and it went really well. I've got no idea why. 309 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: Of course, at the back of his mind he's thinking 310 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: that these guys have hit the horse with a go 311 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: fast drug, one of the early drugs that started to 312 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: be used back in that era. And he's sure that 313 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: it's a drug thing and that the stewards will be 314 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: on the case. But he's puzzled because he realizes that 315 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: it hasn't been backed. Of course, there's no sign that's 316 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: went back. It won the race at forty to one, 317 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: no money's gone on, and he thinks, well, it's a miss. 318 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: And Rick Renzela said to the stewart's last start, you 319 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: know my horse here we got its tongue over the 320 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: bit and didn't run well. It choked down, it couldn't 321 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: gallop properly, and I was very confident today that it 322 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: would go better. 323 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: Et cetera, et cetera. 324 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: This is all so much eyewash. The trainer is just 325 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: nodding and smiling and agreeing with Rick Renzelle, and the 326 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: stewards dismissed the inquiry. They decide it's just one of 327 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: those weird things that happens, and the main reason they 328 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: dismissed the inquiry is that there's no sign of the 329 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: money going on. Later on, Renzella talks to Steve Wood, 330 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: and Wood says, well, I don't know much, but I 331 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: know that if a horse starts at forty to one, 332 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: you haven't put anything on it, and therefore nobody's got 333 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: any money out of it. 334 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: You have to back it. 335 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: And Renzelle says, you come to a barbecue at my 336 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: place tomorrow down in this address in Brighton, hands him 337 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: an address and we'll have a whack up of the 338 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: money and I'll explain it to you then. And young 339 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: Stevie Wood sees to be young wife. We'll be going 340 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: to a barbecue down in Brighton tomorrow, Sunday barbecue, and 341 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: we're not going to miss it because I don't know 342 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: what they're up to, but there's plenty of money in 343 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: it by the sound of it. So they get in 344 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: the blue Pontiac that Rick Grinsela had at some stage 345 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: earlier sold to young Steve Would and they drive down 346 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: the road in this thing that's like a waterbed cross 347 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: with a cabin cruiser, and they pull up at the 348 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: address in Brighton, and it's a nice house in a 349 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: street full of very nice houses, you know, doctor's lawyers, 350 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. And he goes in and 351 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: there's missus Rinzale. She was a very handsome woman, beautifully dressed, 352 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: very polite. Da Da Da da da. And there's the trainer, 353 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: Allan McNamara, looking much happier than he had at the races. 354 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: And there's a guy called Rookie who was Renzale's driver, 355 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: which is code for a bodyguard. And Rookie was a 356 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: tough guy that Steve would actually got to like. He 357 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: sort of liked him. And he said there was a 358 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 1: guy there called Fred from Sydney. He said, I never 359 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: knew his real name. He was just Fred from Sydney. 360 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: Always had a gun under his arm, under his coat, 361 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: and he said I didn't like him at all. He 362 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: was quite spooky. And there was a few others. He 363 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: said it was a big car dealer there, well known 364 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: car dealer that used to advertise cars on television at 365 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: that time. He said, I don't know what he was 366 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: doing there, but he was there, and a few other people. 367 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: And at some point during the barbecue, Renzalez had a 368 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: couple of bees, and he says, Stevie, you better come 369 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: over and talk to him in the office. So he 370 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: leads him into the office in the house and into 371 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: his study thing, and he says, you want to know 372 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: what happened yesterday? He said, look at these pictures on 373 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: the wall. And Wood looks at the wall and goes, oh, 374 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: there's Code of Penn Flemington or whatever he did. And 375 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: there's Code Pen again winning somewhere. And there's Brianda Hall 376 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: at such and such, and there's Damian Park at such 377 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: and such. These pictures, they're all black horses winning races, 378 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: and Werenzealous says, have a closer look. And he has 379 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: a close look and he realizes it's all the same 380 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: horse that in fact, there are supposed to be three 381 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: different horses, and these photos on the walls, but only 382 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: one of them is in each frame. In other words, 383 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: these are ringings. And that is when the penny drops 384 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: for young Steve Wood that it's a ringing, not a 385 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: drug thing. And he said, but Rick, how did you 386 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: get money out of it? You didn't back it, And 387 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: Rick says, so I did, but I didn't back it. 388 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: On course, what I did was, you know what the 389 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: of course daily double is with the tab and he 390 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: said yeah. He said, well, what I do is I 391 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: couple up my sure thing in the second leg with 392 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: restarter in the first leg. I back each combination from 393 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: the first leg with my horse in the second, and 394 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: that way, no matter what wins the first leg. And 395 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: you hope it's a longer shot. You hope it's at 396 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: ten to one shot, not a hot favorite. We've got 397 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: it in the second with a horse that no one 398 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: else in the world has backed. It's just an aberration. 399 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: And so we scooped the pool and he said, I've 400 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: got twenty six thousand dollars out of the pool yesterday. 401 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: And in that year nineteen seventy one, a year that 402 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: I sadly can remember, twenty six thousand dollars was the 403 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: price of two good houses in a country town. And 404 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: I mean by that a country town like Sale or 405 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: Bensdale to Ragon not owe you no somewhere. And it 406 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: was the price of a pretty good house and maybe 407 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: a car in outer suburban Melbourne. It was serious money 408 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: that could change a young jockey's life, that sort of money. 409 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: These days, the comparison houses are worth so much more now. 410 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: But you know these days. You probably need to win 411 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: three quarters of a million dollars or a million dollars 412 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: to have the same actual effect on your life. Rinzala says, 413 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: so you understand now, And Steve would says all right, 414 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: and Rinzale says, now, I don't expect you necessarily to 415 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: want to stick with the crew here. But he's two 416 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: envelopes and there's a thin one and there's a fat one. 417 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: If you choose a thin one, that's great. You put 418 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: it in your pocket and after today we don't worry 419 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: about it. If you take the fat one, you're one 420 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: of the team. And little Stevie Wood made a faithful decision. 421 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: He took the fat one. I mean, he's nineteen or 422 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: twenty or whatever. I think they've got a little kid, 423 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: and his wife's pregnant again, and you know, he's just 424 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: young and a bit silly and like most of us, 425 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: a big greedy. So he took the fat one, and 426 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: being a jockey is a risk taket. They have another 427 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: sausage and a beer, and he and his wife hop 428 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: in the car for the long trip back to Bendigo. 429 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: And they hop in and they drive around the corner 430 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: and they pull up. He said, we've got to open 431 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: that envelope, and he tears it open, and his wife, 432 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: who was a very respectable young woman who was well 433 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: brought up and didn't swear, she said, shit, shit, shit. 434 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: She'd never seen so much money as was in this envelope. Now, 435 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: it must have been in the thousands, like two or 436 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: three or four or five thousand dollars. It was serious money, 437 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: and the sort of money that would pay their rent 438 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: for two years, and you know, give him a deposit 439 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: on a house, whatever it might be. And so they 440 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: put the envelope in the glove box and they drifted Bendigo, 441 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: and this is how it started for Stevie Wood. He 442 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: becomes Frinzella's race stage jockey in the Ringings. Looking back 443 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: on it, the choice to take the fat envelope not 444 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: the skinny envelope was the one that derailed his life 445 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: because by making that choice, he actually handcuffed himself to 446 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: a very bad and violent man, Rickrenzla, Because later on, 447 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: when he did want to pull out, did say to Lorenzla, 448 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you can get away with doing this 449 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: for this reason, it's too risky. For that reason, Renzilla 450 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: turned nasty snarled at him and said, listen, I can't 451 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: guarantee that you won't end up dead up an alley 452 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: or floating in the era. And that is when Steve 453 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: would realize that he was in too deep and it 454 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: was safer to go along with somebody like Wensella then 455 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: to go against him. Next episode, we're going to look 456 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: at how Stevie would got more deeply involved in dishonesty 457 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: and race rigging until eventually he was in so deep 458 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: he couldn't get out without going to jail. Thanks for listening. 459 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: Life and Crimes is a Sunday Herald Sun production for 460 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: true crime Australia. Our producer is Johnty Burton. 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