WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 25 June 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:05.160 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:08.680 Thank you, Sherry, Welcome to the man Cave. There is 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.160 a lot to get to, including tonight. What do the 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.960 Greens and one Nation have in common? Believe it or not, 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.720 there's some data that may well build a bridge. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.000 It's weird, but we'll get to it in a second. 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.040 What role to social media not just play in our elections, 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:28.920 but play in our politics and sometimes make the debate 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:32.320 dumber than it has ever been? Some examples, some evidence 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.680 in a moment. Wednesday night is five night here on 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.200 put Murray Live. Lucy's Ellick will be here with Stephen Connory, 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.640 who's always here to help and a place to say. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.960 She's back from the Greek I's the wonderful Meghan Kelly 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.239 and I will have a conversation. I'm here, she's in 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:48.240 the United States. The one topic, of course, the recent 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:49.760 wars in the Middle East. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.440 You don't have to treat everything like it's an eleven, 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.520 I think, is what Trump is trying to say. That's 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.520 how we got into never ending conflict here. Why don't 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:01.360 we try to pretend it's still is a ceasefire and 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:02.200 behave accordingly. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.479 All right, let's kind of begin where we left off 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.240 last night. As we speak, the NATO leaders are meeting 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.840 in the Netherlands at the Hague. The images that we 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.560 have seen of the past couple of hours have been interesting, including, 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.440 of course, the President of the United States meeting a 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.160 bunch of other world leaders. Those paying absolute attention have 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:23.319 noticed that the Ukrainian leader, a lot of me Zelensky, 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.360 is wearing a suit today at the NATO meeting. Now 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:28.560 that would be fascinating to know why. Of course, we 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.319 all know what happened last time they saw each other 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.800 face to face. The President seems to have woken up 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:34.679 in a better mood than he was at times yesterday 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.880 on just apparently a couple of hours sleep. The day 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:38.960 begins in the beautiful Netherlands, the King and Queen of 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:42.399 beautiful and spectacular people. Our breakfast meeting was great. Now 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.360 we're off to the very important NATO meetings. The US 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.080 we very well represented. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:47.040 Now. 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.040 I know it's the four hundred and twenty eighth time, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.040 and I know that polite society does not like it, 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.920 But I loved, absolutely loved that Trump ripped in the 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.240 way that he did yesterday. Because remember the whole of 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.840 what he is trying to do is to draw a 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.400 line under the twelve most recent days of conflict, not 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.360 to decide an overall winner when it comes to the 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.320 Middle East and the rights and wrongs, just to say, okay, 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:17.080 we've all made our point. Stop and when they were 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.040 refusing to do so. I just love that the President 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:24.120 of the United States did not send a message a 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.720 smoke signal, you did not have to read the tea leaves. Instead, 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:31.200 he spray painted it on the White House walls. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:36.360 We basically have two countries that have been fighting so 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:40.120 long and so hard that they don't know what they're doing? 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:41.079 Do you understand that? 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.160 Bang boom boom? 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.760 Now it might just be because I am a cashtup bogue, 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:52.239 but the reality is that a lot of people, if 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.280 not dare I say, most swear. Do we expect a 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.440 little better in our public officials. Sure, but every now 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.000 and then allowed to show a certain level of frustration, 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:03.359 and yeah, sometimes even go. 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:04.480 There, of course. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.440 But what I love is the giant gulf between the 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.280 people who are making TV and radio shows and the 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.120 people who are watching them, who either cheered or booed, 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:14.920 but may. 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.080 Well have said the same language. Back to the screens. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.000 Watch everyone tiptoe around the F bomb. 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:26.320 Today, key US weapon, the F bomb, A foulmouth tirade. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.639 A furious Donald Trump has left the world stunned. 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:34.679 Donald Trump delivered a furious tirade puncture weighted with an expletive, oh. 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:39.440 Exclusive foul mouth. I get it. 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.800 Is this the most presidential of language you have ever 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:42.600 seen in your life? 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:42.720 No? 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:49.280 But sometimes just I love that we pretend that our 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.520 society is still sort of playing by that everyone wears 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.760 hats and suits when they go to the city rules 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.080 of the nineteen fifties. Now, it does not mean that 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.800 I expect all bulletins all the time to be nothing 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:05.240 but f bombs and created ways of swearing. Certainly, there 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.520 have been plenty of times in my career over fifteen 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.640 years that I've got probably a little bit too swearing, 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:11.360 a little bit too casual. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.040 I know, for some people swearing is down market. 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:15.920 It might seem a little dumb at times, and you 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.320 know what, You're probably right, But I do find some 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:23.600 of the collective pearl clutching from a media that is 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.120 more than happy to shove. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.440 Bile and garbage. 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.400 Down the throats of people over generations being the same 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:33.120 people going. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.120 Wou't someone think about the children? Now? 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:37.600 While all of that was happening, and I'm going to 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:39.320 have a bit to say about social media, there were 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.400 some people who had a little bit of fun with it. Again, 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.640 if you're the type of person who is deeply offended 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.880 by the swearing of the president, I apologize, But again, 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.200 while again I don't want him to be doing it 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.479 all day every day, I liked it. There's these little 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.320 moments that sometimes just break out, and normal people who 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.320 don't pay attention to the news as deeply as we 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.560 do go how good or bad was what the president 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:03.160 did last And again it didn't hurt a single human being, 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.400 but it did produce fun like this, Like everything on 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.240 the internet is seemingly being turned into babies, so why 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:11.320 not the news. 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:13.839 We have? 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.560 We basically have two countries that have been fighting so 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.320 long and so hard that they don't know what they're doing. 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:22.880 Do you understand that you. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.000 Can hate or late Trump or you want. I don't 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:26.960 care if you hate them, love them, or like them, 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.520 But y'all, I can't lie that made this one? This 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.160 man cursed on national television. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:33.960 Do you understand that? 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:42.120 Oh? 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.360 I know, they'll be the how could he, Well, they're 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.320 all going to pretend they don't swear in their own life. Again, 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.320 if you are somebody who does not use this language, 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.839 I apologize for making fun. But if you are a 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.680 person who does use this language, who has used this 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.640 language before, but then goes on television, oh, foul mouth, 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:05.520 foul mouth behavior of a president. Welcome to twenty twenty five. Okay, 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.919 there's so much fakery and puffery. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:10.400 In and around the media. 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.080 My thing is just to try to be as normal 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:13.800 as possible, and sometimes that is going to be a 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:17.000 little swear word. Hopefully not all of the sentence, and 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.440 hopefully many few of them often roll through my little head. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.360 But that's just my thoughts. No swearing today at the 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:27.600 NATO conference. Instead, the thing that was around yesterday he's 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.159 doubled down on again today, which is the leaking of 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.039 intel information that apparently the hit on Iran was not 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.279 as big as he had suggested. So he's going after 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.719 those who are saying that it wasn't. The obliteration of 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:41.600 the nuclear campaign in Iran. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.200 You have some great reporters, but you have scum. CNN 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:49.320 has scum MSDS. He has come The New York Times 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.919 has come. They're bad people, they're sick. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:58.200 Imagine if a real politician, like a serious did that here. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:04.160 But what the darkness dies in democracy? Whatever. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.600 Now, let's still about the National Press Club, the guardians 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.120 of our democracy, all of course pushing it as left 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:13.400 as they can all day every day. 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.600 Now we know this is a home game for the left. 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:19.080 Why because it's in Canberra, right, It's full of the 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.080 Canberra Columbos. It's full of the people who turn every 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.880 little scandal into the Liberal Party about something that should 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:26.480 be the end of the party, the end of the 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.960 right of Australian politics, while looking the way at all 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.160 sorts of things that the Labor Party's done. And of 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:36.400 course Susan Laye was there today and Susan Lee, I 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.880 should say, it was at the Press Club, of course, 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.760 the new Liberal leader. But before she'd even turned up, 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.080 a couple of days before she had turned up already 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.880 the press was saying what they demanded from her speech. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.640 Now they never do this for Anthony Alberanezi. Why because 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:53.400 it's a home game. But Michelle Gratton and she can 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.920 pop up in lots of different places, but she says 0:07:56.000 --> 0:08:00.120 here that there are five questions that she needed to answer. Now, 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.680 of course, when I ask five questions of an opposition leader, 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.080 that's crazy to stuff. When Chris Kenny does it, that's 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.160 the wildness of sky in his primetime. But if you're 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.040 Michelle Gratton, you can have five questions that need to 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.760 be answered. The five questions that she set as the 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:17.080 rules for the press conference and the appearance today is 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.240 how is she going to thread the needle between the 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:23.800 two sides of the Liberal Party? How and when will 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.080 she deal with the coalition's commitment to net zero? Why 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:28.880 don't it be near impossible for the Liberals to get 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.320 a respectable proportion of women and the House of Representative's 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:36.920 team without quotas. Lee says that she wants to run 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.880 a constructive opposition. So how constructive in the tax debate 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.719 the Treasurer Jim Chalmers launched this week. How will it 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.680 be constructive in that debate? How active will Lee be 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.360 in trying to drive improvements in the appalling Liberal parties 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.640 state organizations, especially in New South Wales. 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.040 And in Victoria. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.800 Now reality is is that the same series of questions 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.520 were never set as the bar for when Bill Shorten 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.520 was giving his first speeches as the labor leader trying 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.920 to pick up after twenty thirty and yes there was 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:15.320 a devastating, deep, difficult loss for the coalition. No one's 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.199 hiding it, no one's pushing it around. But the idea 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:19.760 that all questions are going to be answered in the 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:24.320 first major appearance of a person weeks effectively after an 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:28.160 election might be setting the bar deliberately so high that 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:32.000 there's no way that any politician left right or center, 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.280 let alone liberal left right or center, would be able 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.640 to clear it. And again here was some of the 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:41.960 questions from those who were gathering to pepper up the 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:43.360 new alternative prime Minister. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.640 And the opposition in the last term was characterized by 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:51.600 being quite muscular in its opposition, even to costs of 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:55.000 living relief in the Parliament, and times seemed like just 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.120 reflexively said no and then found a justification for doing 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:01.680 it later. I'm wondering if if you accept that now 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:02.480 as a mistake. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.920 The twenty twenty two review published by Jane Hume and 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.760 Brian Longman explicitly stated a reason for the decline in 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:15.360 the vote is because of women. You yourself, after this review, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.400 was in the second most senior position as Deputy opposition leader, 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.800 How can you guarantee that this review will actually be 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:23.440 listened to? 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.560 H are you making yourselves more unelectable for the sake 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.240 of unity within the coalition. 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.839 The nineteen eighty three election, which was probably the coalition's 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.920 worst result. By the May election forty years later, almost 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.680 we are. You're almost in the exact same position, if 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:38.520 not worse. Do you think there is truly a way 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.640 to stop what is emerging as a long term pattern 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:41.280 of regression? 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.960 Don't you like the people whose professional job it is 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.120 to talk about politics, who are in the upper echelons 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:50.920 in the camber press gallery, that they are able to 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.120 go to the National Press Club and ask questions of 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.640 the opposition leader, but don't quite know all of the 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:57.599 names of the people of whom they are asking the 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:58.360 questions about. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.800 Hello, Brian, I hope that you're but faed InCom really 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:03.320 now again. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.760 Sometimes I am the person who can be quite guilty 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.880 mispronouncing certain words. But I don't serve myself up as 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.080 somebody is ready to take the challenge directly to the 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:18.480 face of our political leaders. But what I actually want 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.400 to show you here is what was in her speech, 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.880 Because the reality of any opposition leader is that the 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.520 argument is always, well, no one knows who you are, 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.280 so yes, this was a nationally televised speech, but it's 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.320 in the middle of the day on a Wednesday, so 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:37.199 it's not like millions of people are watching. But if 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.000 you do get the chance, and you do get the time, 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.120 go and read it, or go and watch the full 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.040 length video of it, because let's start to learn who 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:44.840 this person is. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.680 Again, if they make bad decisions, I'll be the first 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.120 one to jump up and down. 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.600 But rather than trying to somehow make sure that this 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.600 never gets out of first gear, let's just see what 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.480 she had to say. And she again is talking about 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.920 her biography and in the real of modern Australian politics, yes, 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.520 what you believe in is the most important thing, but 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.040 who you are and what your experience seems to be 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.760 the way of trying to connect with the whole collection 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.200 of people who are either forced to vote by our 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.360 system or people who may well have given up on 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.360 you because they consider the bio to be more important 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.679 than any of the ideas. He's part of the alternative 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:25.200 prime minister's pitch today. It'll take three years. Who knows 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:28.160 where it will end. Most likely well and truly short 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:31.960 of government. But still, who is the leader of the opposition, Well, 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.080 a woman who had life experience like this. 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:40.760 Aspiration is the thread that connects every single part of 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:46.840 Australian society. Aspiration is the foundation of the Australian promise 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.520 that if you work hard, play by the rules, do 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.600 your best for your kids, and contribute to your community, 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.520 you will be able to build a better life for 0:12:56.559 --> 0:13:01.719 yourself and your family. That promise feels rather distant for 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:07.079 many Australians today. Cost of living is rising, wages are stagnant, 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.079 and home ownership is. 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:09.560 Out of reach. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:14.040 Australians work hard, but too often they feel like they're 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:19.400 running harder just to stand still. For too many Australians, 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:24.960 it's a promise that seems almost unachievable. The Liberal Party 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:30.960 must restore that promise to empower Australians to make decisions 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:36.200 that are right for them, to reward effort or punish success, 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.720 to ensure that government backs its citizens, not burdens them. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.840 That is the Australia I believe. 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.559 In first principles. 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.959 First principles, What a wonderful way to introduce yourself to 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:50.640 say this is what the first principle is, and the 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.600 reality is in politics you have to say it over 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.360 and over again until you're sec of it, and that's 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.080 when people start to listen. So you're going to hear 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.160 this buyer, You're going to hear these values over and 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.480 over again again. I'm going to be benefit of the 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.559 doubt position when it comes to this leader of the 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.640 opposition again, when she talks about a personal experience. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.760 It is unusual for. 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.880 Many politicians to talk about things like this. But if 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.560 you've got a story that is ever so slightly different 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.120 than the cookie cutter of everyone else, why not tell it. 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.120 My journey here is not one of privilege. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:26.240 It's a story of work, struggle, persistence and belief in 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.920 the country that gave me and my family a chance. 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.160 I was born in Nigeria to British parents. They lived 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.200 busy lives. The first lesson they instilled in me growing 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.000 up was that your job was about more. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.200 Than just clocking on and clocking off. 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.080 It was about having a vocation, something that made the 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.160 world about a place, or made a difference in society. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:55.040 Exactly and again, for many working women, there is a 0:14:55.080 --> 0:15:00.480 story that is one where what blokes sometimes take for granted, well, 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.040 certainly people who were young when they went to things 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.880 like university may well not understand was complicated. 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:08.800 Is the experience of once you get to a moment 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:09.240 in your. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.440 Life where you realize I've got to reskill, I've got 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:13.840 to go back to tay, I've got to go back 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:14.200 to UNI. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:15.840 But I'm not doing it as a twenty one year old. 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.160 I'm doing it as a person who's on their way 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:22.360 or in and around their thirties. Again, I thought this 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.480 was a good insight into beginning to get to know 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.960 the person that millions of people are hoping is going 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.680 to be able to take the fight up to Albo. 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.880 Balancing the family budget was becoming too hard, so I 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.480 made a decision that many mums have made before and since. 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.800 Get new skills and bring in extra income. So as 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:46.000 I raised my own family, I went to university for 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.720 the first time age thirty. I still remember the day 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.400 I walked in to enroll in a Bachelor of Economics 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:57.240 at Latrobe University in Wodonga. I kept thinking, can I 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.320 really do this? I got out of the bat farm, 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.360 mute baby in a capsule, and. 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.080 I felt so out of place. 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.080 I was a different generation from these students who didn't 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.120 seem to have a care in the world. I felt 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:14.280 like an outsider. I remember being suffocated by self doubt. 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:18.560 There I stood, the mature age student, the crying baby, 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.800 convinced that I did not belong here. 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.520 And then to the fundamental issue, which of course is 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.480 how does the Liberal Party get itself to a place 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.120 where more women are able to get elected to Parliament 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.840 and get the opportunity like many people have before, to 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.000 be able to rise up and sometimes down, and then 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:35.880 up and then sometimes sidewards and then down and then 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.840 way up in the ranks. Well, again, she took that 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.480 head on because, of course, how many of the questions 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.400 were going to be about that. Hence why you have 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:44.680 to talk about it in your speech. 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:49.760 Our party must pre select more women in winnable seats 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:54.000 so that we see more Liberal women in federal Parliament. 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.080 Now, I'm agnostic. 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.600 On specific methods to make it happen, but I am 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:04.680 a z that it actually does happen. Current approaches have 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:09.040 clearly not worked, so I'm open to any approach that will. 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:13.200 If some state divisions choose to implement quoteras, that's fine. 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.919 If others don't, that's also fine. But what is not 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.679 fine is not having enough women. 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.080 Now, I made the point straight after the election, and 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:24.640 I'm not going to wallow on this for the next 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.280 three years. It's just I'm a person who can often 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.280 try to interpret things not just about what people believe in, 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:34.080 and of course that is the most important thing, but 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.080 increasingly for an awful lot of people, it is again 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.320 about the bio and the reality is that when you 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.639 have a look at the electoral role, and you have 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.720 a look at the thirty seats that the coalition is 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.080 lost in the last two election, guess what twenty eight 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.640 of them have in common? That there are more female 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:55.119 voters on the rolls then there are male voters. This 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.080 does not automatically mean or women go one way or 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:57.320 the other. 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:58.480 I'm not suggesting that. 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.040 But if you try to have candidates that look like 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.280 the electorate in order to build a bridge, or guess what. 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.359 In the seats where there are more female voters than 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:09.600 there are male voters, guess what. 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:10.639 Now. 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.600 This has been something that political party has done for 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.919 a long period of time when it comes to certain things, 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:19.160 more often than not things like ethnicity, but perhaps gender 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:21.240 is an issue that clearly needs to. 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:22.080 Be dealt with here. 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.679 And when I say more female voters than men, I 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.800 don't mean like one hundred more. I mean like enough 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:32.479 to decide an election, more like some of the seats 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.760 that have changed hands in the past couple of elections. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:36.320 These are all over the country. 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:36.800 By the way. 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:40.200 In Petri, which is a seat that until this election 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.640 was a bell Weather seat, it's got seven thousand more 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.480 female voters than males. In Boothby and South Australia, where 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:51.560 our mate Nicole Flip was running, there was six thousand 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:55.640 more female voters in Kuyong. There's almost six thousand more 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.119 female voters in Robertson. In New South Wales there's almost 0:18:58.200 --> 0:18:59.800 five thousand, and so on and so on and so 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:01.520 on for twenty eight different seats. 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:02.560 So is it everything? 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:03.040 No? 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:04.280 Is it nothing? 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:04.960 No? 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.040 Is it something? Obviously? 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.440 Now, speaking of people voting in elections is where I'm 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:17.159 going to dance right on the razor blade for you. 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.720 But I'll do it anyway. Now. 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.119 The reality is is that, yes, politics changes, and it 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.840 changes with its technology, and it changes with its communities. 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.639 And depending on whether you think that the world is 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:30.760 getting smarter because everyone's going to university or the world 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.080 is getting dumber because everyone goes to university. The reality 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.280 is that something is changing in and around the way 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:42.240 that our politics is discussed and is decided now, whether 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.720 it is left right, whether it is gender, whether it 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.640 is your buyer, whether it is socioeconomic, all of those 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.080 different things. Again, is it something? 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:53.080 Yeah? Is it everything? 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:53.199