Speaker 1: Appoche production.
Speaker 2: That a mates.
Speaker 3: While I've got your attention, I just thought I might
Speaker 3: like to communicate a few things to you. Communication is key,
Speaker 3: as you know, and sometimes if I feel things, I
Speaker 3: need to express them because even though they're not acted on.
Speaker 4: It's been a minute since we last sat down with
Speaker 4: a bloke called Dan Saunders and heard all about the
Speaker 4: amazing story of his ATM glitch where he was able
Speaker 4: to borrow hashtag steal over a million dollars from a bank,
Speaker 4: can spend it in four months on coconhookers and other
Speaker 4: fun stuff. Dan dubbed himself in, went to jail, and
Speaker 4: then ended up telling me about it all in a
Speaker 4: podcast back in February of twenty twenty two. Since then,
Speaker 4: Dan and I have become mates. To be honest, I
Speaker 4: feel like I got the raw end of the deal.
Speaker 4: I mean, if I knew Dan back when the glitch
Speaker 4: was going on, then things would have been a damn
Speaker 4: site more fun. But I also might have ended.
Speaker 2: Up in jail.
Speaker 3: The first thing I feel to say is I hope
Speaker 3: you're well, and I hope the family as well.
Speaker 2: I hope that it's going well and the business is good,
Speaker 2: and yeah.
Speaker 5: Everything's fucking homewards and upwards because I always wish that could.
Speaker 4: So under the promise of a free Nando's meal, Dan
Speaker 4: jumped on a train from a mystery location and came
Speaker 4: up to our studios in Brisbane's Fortitude Valley, which is
Speaker 4: pretty close to where we recorded the first time we ever.
Speaker 2: Met Amazing Jay. Yeah, you've got your own studio.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, yeah, we didn't have that when we
Speaker 6: first started.
Speaker 7: I just say you're a new studio and like you know,
Speaker 7: he's articular on pretty well.
Speaker 5: Let's have to go to Sidney Galore New Cash.
Speaker 4: Good to see that you're still the joky guy that
Speaker 4: we knew of from the glitch.
Speaker 2: Dan.
Speaker 6: So I want to just set some timelines here because it.
Speaker 4: Has been probably about three years since we spoke, so
Speaker 4: this will all happen. The glitch happened in twenty eleven
Speaker 4: for anyone that hasn't gone back and listened to the
Speaker 4: previous eleven episodes. But essentially, you were able to work
Speaker 4: out with your credit card that you're able to transfer
Speaker 4: money from your from your credit card to your savings account,
Speaker 4: take the money out, and then continually do that over
Speaker 4: a space of four or five months.
Speaker 6: Right, how much money did you get?
Speaker 4: But allegedly six million dollars? Well that's what that's what
Speaker 4: you say. But you owe how much? I yeah, do
Speaker 4: you wwe anything of the moment?
Speaker 5: You don't like if you don't ask you Okay, you
Speaker 5: had to COVID shot, Yeah sure, yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So twenty eleven the incident happened, twenty fifteen you went
Speaker 4: to jail for a year, and twenty sixteen you got out.
Speaker 6: So it's almost like it's almost ten years since you
Speaker 6: went to jail for this glitch. Right, Yeah, it's been
Speaker 6: a long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I always say that I'm just a you know, for
Speaker 5: really average bloke with it over your story, Like that's
Speaker 5: that's the way I describe my stuff.
Speaker 2: Let's stop.
Speaker 5: It's been a long time, you know, five years, you know,
Speaker 5: three or four years since we actually recorded in the podcast.
Speaker 2: Does anyone even listen to this stuff? They do?
Speaker 6: Yeah, like millions of people have listened to it.
Speaker 4: And you know this right because randomly you get texts
Speaker 4: and messages from all.
Speaker 5: Over the world, right, yeah, yeah, well you got a
Speaker 5: lot of texts. I mean just obviously people who have
Speaker 5: listened to the story and they enjoy the story.
Speaker 2: And all that kind of thing.
Speaker 5: But again a little of text from people who have
Speaker 5: had their own bank glitches.
Speaker 4: Dance story is made for social media from Tiktoker's fun fact.
Speaker 1: While on a Nato drinking Dan Saunders went to use ATM.
Speaker 2: He transferred two hundred dollars from his credit account to
Speaker 2: his savings account.
Speaker 1: The ATM sed instagrammers this.
Speaker 5: Man found a real life money glitch and became a
Speaker 5: millionaire over night.
Speaker 6: In twenty eleven, Dan Saunders was out on YouTubers.
Speaker 7: This man discovered an infinite money glitch.
Speaker 2: This this is Dan Sanders.
Speaker 8: One night at two am, he stopped by an ATM
Speaker 8: to take out some cash.
Speaker 2: He transferred two hundred dollars from his credit cards.
Speaker 4: And even some of Australia's best horse racing jockeys like
Speaker 4: Damian Lane loves the story of Dan and the glitch.
Speaker 2: You've got some podcasts you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a really good one about it Buds from
Speaker 8: Jams that Must and it is a great listen, he said,
Speaker 8: not about Country Guy. They come across a lot of
Speaker 8: money really quickly, has really good fun.
Speaker 4: And that's the reason we wanted to do this episode.
Speaker 4: For us, it was about finding out some of the
Speaker 4: questions that everyone kept asking, and for Dan, I think
Speaker 4: he just wanted the free nandos. This is made for YouTube, right,
Speaker 4: Like the amount of times I've seen the Glitch story
Speaker 4: told in different languages right around the world, and we'll
Speaker 4: occasionally text each other with, oh, how did you see this?
Speaker 4: Do you get noticed that.
Speaker 2: I don't get noticed?
Speaker 5: And that's kind of like someone actually told me about
Speaker 5: me the other day.
Speaker 4: Someone told you a story about this dude, did you.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, what's the card? And he's like
Speaker 2: the Glitch.
Speaker 7: I'm like, okay, I'll get on with He goes, Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's about this guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he went here, and he went there and he
Speaker 5: you know, got the money off the bank and on
Speaker 5: the pass.
Speaker 7: That's pretty Yeah, sounds pretty interesting.
Speaker 5: But that was Yeah, I mean stuff like that's weird
Speaker 5: for someone to come up to you and obviously they
Speaker 5: know the.
Speaker 7: Story, but I don't really know who I am.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's great because it literally could have
Speaker 5: happened to anyone. Yeah, it's not just me. It's the
Speaker 5: fact that it could have happened to anyone. And I
Speaker 5: feel like there's been a lot of emphasis on me
Speaker 5: through the storytelling, but.
Speaker 2: It's actually quite serious. Like if a guy.
Speaker 5: Who's just an normal dude with an ATM card can
Speaker 5: get this amount of money off a national bank and
Speaker 5: they don't want to know, particularly where it's coming from,
Speaker 5: like what happened with it, they're just prepared to obviously
Speaker 5: walk away. You reckon, there's not more people out there
Speaker 5: who've got away with a glitch like this and just
Speaker 5: walked off into the sunset and.
Speaker 2: Not told anyone. Right, I've not been stupid enough to
Speaker 2: go to a current affair.
Speaker 4: If the ACM glitch happened to you today, do you
Speaker 4: think you'd react differently?
Speaker 6: Like, so, have you ever got that.
Speaker 4: Vibe where you've been out midnight, you're around, don't have
Speaker 4: anybody left because you've got no money?
Speaker 2: Ever tried anything like that again if you were to.
Speaker 5: I'm always curious for different things, but I'm not. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm not sort of in that mindset where I'm going
Speaker 5: to go and do something. I know that it is
Speaker 5: fundamentally the wrong thing to do, but just myself, not
Speaker 5: because I'm going to get caught or anything like that,
Speaker 5: just because I don't want to lose myself like that.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's pretty much it. I just don't
Speaker 5: want to lose who I am because you know, I
Speaker 5: I like being average mate. I don't need to be
Speaker 5: you know, like this flashy guy with lots of money
Speaker 5: and you know Nasarati's and you know, just I don't
Speaker 5: need to be that.
Speaker 4: What are the messages you get on socials from people
Speaker 4: like that know that it was you as anyone reached
Speaker 4: out since the podcast and since the news sort of
Speaker 4: broke around.
Speaker 2: Hey Dan, yeah they range.
Speaker 5: I mean it's if you live in Australia and you're
Speaker 5: a group of mates, you'll know that you don't need
Speaker 5: sort of enemies when you've got these mates because everything
Speaker 5: negative that's on the internet, that will screenshot it and.
Speaker 2: That's go too.
Speaker 5: So I'll just be waiting for, you know, to see
Speaker 5: the podiatrist and they will just know it'll just pop
Speaker 5: up in the group chat and they'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 5: this bloke from Canada, I thinks you're an absolute nob
Speaker 5: and I'll just be like, yeah.
Speaker 7: Go bo for justin Indick, you know, like I wouldn't find.
Speaker 5: It, but they just you know, my actual favorite anyone's
Speaker 5: that I said, he's in a It's in a apple
Speaker 5: Apple iTunes review of the glitch yep and it says
Speaker 5: I had to turn it off because it sounds like
Speaker 5: two autistic people talking to each other that Blake was
Speaker 5: from the UK, and I was like, that's good, that's
Speaker 5: a double pay.
Speaker 2: It's so the best stuff is the positive stuff.
Speaker 5: People a message and they say that was amazing you
Speaker 5: did that. Why didn't you, you know, sort of walk away.
Speaker 5: You know, why didn't you just forget about it and
Speaker 5: not tell anyone?
Speaker 2: And you know, so I sort.
Speaker 5: Of just going to explain exactly what happened at that
Speaker 5: time and why I didn't and why I felt that,
Speaker 5: you know, like I was losing my peace of mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the free stuff.
Speaker 4: Has there anyone reached out from those days now and gone,
Speaker 4: hey Dan remember me?
Speaker 5: I was, Yeah, a few people, a few people sort
Speaker 5: of around one or other. So a few people in
Speaker 5: warang have sort of reached out. But then, yeah, like
Speaker 5: the stories from the town, apparently it's quite well known
Speaker 5: in the.
Speaker 2: Town, the story.
Speaker 5: So yeah, a few people from one Garrata sort of said, oh,
Speaker 5: you know that you've been in the paper year and
Speaker 5: stuff and in our era sort of talks about it.
Speaker 2: But I don't know that's true. You put Wangaratta on
Speaker 2: the map, Well hopefully we will, right.
Speaker 7: So if there's a movie one, Garada is going to
Speaker 7: be front and the center.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's going to be like a Seinfeld to anyway.
Speaker 4: But normally are those types of movies, like if at
Speaker 4: San Francisco you'll see shots of the bridge and those
Speaker 4: sorts of things. What's the what's the landmark spot in
Speaker 4: wang Apex Park?
Speaker 5: There's just going to be a big drone footage of
Speaker 5: Apex Park and it's just yeah, I mean, you're gonna
Speaker 5: get down the bull's head, You're going to go at
Speaker 5: the commercial. You just can add a very good time.
Speaker 5: Just get down a way and get down to the races,
Speaker 5: just really embrace it all.
Speaker 9: Here we are in the rural city of Wangaratta. We're
Speaker 9: two hundred and sixty kilometers northeast of Melbourne in the
Speaker 9: amazing rural city of Wangarada. So come a nixt floor
Speaker 9: where my family.
Speaker 4: So the question that we get all the time on
Speaker 4: social media and when we talk to people about your story,
Speaker 4: is Stan spent all this money on things you didn't
Speaker 4: need a receipt for coke hookers, those types of things right. Generally,
Speaker 4: don't get receipts for those. Surely he put money, hid
Speaker 4: money in the sand or in the bush, or did
Speaker 4: a melissic attic and you know has hidden it somewhere.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, the only thing I'd say is that
Speaker 5: it's not it's not. Of course there's more of the story,
Speaker 5: but it's not in my best interests to just lay
Speaker 5: it all on the table.
Speaker 2: And there's really no point. I mean, some pen.
Speaker 5: Push in some office somewhere, it's going to go, oh yeah, right,
Speaker 5: that's what he did.
Speaker 2: So we're going to do this.
Speaker 5: Ultimately, if a banker gets money out of his customers,
Speaker 5: he's seen as like that's good business. If I or
Speaker 5: anyone else as a crack at a bank, it's not
Speaker 5: fair game. So if I said to you, hey, yeah,
Speaker 5: I've got you know, this account here and it's got
Speaker 5: this much in it, but what's the point. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's all level playing field. If it was all fair
Speaker 5: and you could just say, yeah, I stitched them up
Speaker 5: and this is why I did, and nothing, you know,
Speaker 5: no consequences would come, then.
Speaker 2: Great, I'd tell you. But otherwise, what's the point.
Speaker 6: Did you have any troubles getting if you do have
Speaker 6: a bank account. Now, do you have any troubles getting
Speaker 6: a bank account?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 5: I think I think I can't transfer money between my accounts.
Speaker 2: That's a smart move from it.
Speaker 5: Seems to be a blanket move by banks, which is
Speaker 5: I mean, you can see why, you see what it does.
Speaker 5: It does get a little bit like annoying, but yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean you can see what what.
Speaker 4: Does life look like at the moment? For Dan sounds
Speaker 4: like girlfriend, boyfriend, what's the what's your what's your domestic situation?
Speaker 2: Then, I mean like, like's the best.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not I'm not I'm not swimming in cash.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I just yeah, I value the connections I have with people,
Speaker 5: and you know, through this story, I've been able to
Speaker 5: make many connections all through the world and that's been amazing.
Speaker 5: That's been the best bit of it all. You know,
Speaker 5: that's the bit that I didn't even think would have happened. Yeah,
Speaker 5: in terms of like marital status. So I don't really
Speaker 5: think that, you know, like that's anyone's you know, like
Speaker 5: I really I don't really mind if sort of people
Speaker 5: know everything about my life, but the other celebrity or
Speaker 5: real the other just you know, roll into the valley
Speaker 5: every now and there to do a podcast and just
Speaker 5: go back to the normal life.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not really are so? Is that a
Speaker 2: yes or no?
Speaker 7: That I'm extremely happy in my current situation?
Speaker 4: And where are you living?
Speaker 2: I just live in a place borro Bay. I don't
Speaker 2: know whether you've heard of it. I I just did
Speaker 2: famous people. Now. I just I do a little bit
Speaker 2: of like my help with the cleaning, like properties and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. I don't Yeah, I don't really are
Speaker 2: if right about now?
Speaker 4: You feel Dan's being a little cagey about Howie Eann's coin,
Speaker 4: whether he's married, single or whatever. I feel the same too.
Speaker 4: Me and Dan are mates, but I get the feeling
Speaker 4: Dan doesn't want to share too much with too many people,
Speaker 4: certainly not a bloke who's going to put it in
Speaker 4: a podcast. But I've always wondered, is this because A
Speaker 4: Dan's dodgy? B He's just a private guy. See he's
Speaker 4: got money stashed in a bag somewhere in a backyard
Speaker 4: or d all of the above. Dan's now in his
Speaker 4: early forties, and all of this happened when he was
Speaker 4: in his twenties. Maybe we'll never get to know or
Speaker 4: maybe this movie that we've been banging on about for
Speaker 4: the last two and a bit years will actually come
Speaker 4: off and reveal all.
Speaker 7: No, it's I mean, I guess it's you know, do
Speaker 7: you get something else?
Speaker 2: But takes a lot, But yeah, it's good that you
Speaker 2: said talk because.
Speaker 4: Hollywood movie studio are we allowed to say which one?
Speaker 2: You can say which one if you like? All speak?
Speaker 5: You sure not in the room, you know, don't trust
Speaker 5: anything as that. But yeah, I mean, it's it searched
Speaker 5: like pictures.
Speaker 2: They're part of Disney, part of Disney.
Speaker 5: They've made the approach and as hey, listen is what
Speaker 5: we wanted.
Speaker 4: To do, and so the is it documentary or an
Speaker 4: actual dramatization of.
Speaker 7: Believe it's an actual movie?
Speaker 2: Too much about it.
Speaker 5: But then there's another more who want to make the
Speaker 5: movie as well. Okay, and then there's another company I
Speaker 5: think it's called October Films something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I've never really had any interaction with them, certainly not
Speaker 5: in the last you know, ten years or something.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's yes, it's weird like they've done a
Speaker 2: script apparently too.
Speaker 5: They've got funding from Film New South Wales. Then there's
Speaker 5: this other guy who is part of He's like I
Speaker 5: got at a company in the UK and which name
Speaker 5: escapes me, but he's got a television series in the pipeline,
Speaker 5: like an Australian television series.
Speaker 6: And so what do you do for any of this?
Speaker 6: Can you be associated with any of that stuff?
Speaker 2: I don't think so, okay, I think so.
Speaker 4: I think it's I mean, there's stories out there, right, so.
Speaker 2: Anyone can do it.
Speaker 5: Apparently the entertainment sort of lawyers or whatever they said
Speaker 5: that anyone can do it. So it's not like it's
Speaker 5: it's something where they need my permission or they need
Speaker 5: me to do anything or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have lastly no idea.
Speaker 6: So yeah, do you benefit from it in any way?
Speaker 7: Well, I wouldn't think so, okay, I don't know. I
Speaker 7: think I'm just going to I think the most I'm
Speaker 7: going to get.
Speaker 5: From it is like a Nando's from you occasionally that
Speaker 5: might be it, but otherwise no, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: And to be honest, like, it wouldn't.
Speaker 5: Be the amount of money where I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 5: you know, I wouldn't sort of look at the amount
Speaker 5: of money and go, oh, that's a life changing amount,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm going to try and run the gourd or.
Speaker 2: Anything like that.
Speaker 5: We're not talking like, yeah, we're not talking Midians and
Speaker 5: then we're just talking like, you know, maybe tens of thousands,
Speaker 5: but not not a heap of money. So I don't
Speaker 5: really Yeah, I'm not really going to go and you know,
Speaker 5: especially now, like I'm not really going to go and
Speaker 5: put myself on on them and accept money when you know,
Speaker 5: basically they could just come and take it off you anyway.
Speaker 2: And yeah, maybe there's other ways. I don't know.
Speaker 6: So what else is going on in Dad's orders' life
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just really average broke.
Speaker 5: Like I'll say, you know, a couple of people listening
Speaker 5: to it's like, I'm just nah, I mean, it's just
Speaker 5: it's a.
Speaker 7: It's such a like it's become.
Speaker 5: I don't think about the glitch every day, but it
Speaker 5: always comes up, like there's always a message about it.
Speaker 5: There's sort of something going on. But other than that,
Speaker 5: I'm just working on working on the goals. Like I
Speaker 5: love the idea of having the retreat. I love, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I love my friends, love to you know, connect with people,
Speaker 5: just keep talking to people. Just keep enjoying, enjoying life.
Speaker 7: For me, it's not you know, it's not just.
Speaker 2: Enjoy life in a different way.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 4: Dan talk to me about the idea that he has,
Speaker 4: and it was to make a retreat somewhere in Byron
Speaker 4: where people who had gambling issues could go and spend
Speaker 4: time and maybe get away from the Dapto dogs or
Speaker 4: the quality at Doom but on a Saturday afternoon. Quite genuinely,
Speaker 4: Dan does think gambling is a big issue and it
Speaker 4: certainly didn't help him during his time with the glitch.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm pretty happy to go about this. Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's clearly issues here around you know, money. Like I've
Speaker 5: had problems with gambling in the past, like absolutely like
Speaker 5: one hundred and you know, I didn't sort of go
Speaker 5: you know, I don't dwell on that stuff because I'm
Speaker 5: positive person. I just you know, like if if if
Speaker 5: I do the wrong thing, I feel like, you know,
Speaker 5: I've done the wrong thing. I don't sort of you know,
Speaker 5: sit there and go, oh how bad it is for me.
Speaker 5: I just sort of move on and try and learn
Speaker 5: from it. And yeah, I mean one of the one
Speaker 5: of my big hairy goals is to actually open a
Speaker 5: retreat one day four young guys who have you know,
Speaker 5: have got a gambling problem or have some substance abuse
Speaker 5: issues or whatever, and they can just come and have
Speaker 5: a chat because the eighteen year old me or the
Speaker 5: twenty year old mate.
Speaker 7: Would have like benefit from that love that like.
Speaker 5: You know, that planning of that seed, Like hey, do
Speaker 5: you think you know you might want to you know,
Speaker 5: sort of go on a different path or this is
Speaker 5: you know what it will lead to later on, you
Speaker 5: know what, being bankrupt and like all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 2: So it's not like it's just.
Speaker 5: All roses and oh they're going to make a movie.
Speaker 5: I mean, and that's awesome, you know.
Speaker 7: Look, but yeah, maybe we could.
Speaker 5: Get some ex football players who benefit from the gambling
Speaker 5: industry behind that in it where we get a sports
Speaker 5: bet house or something start.
Speaker 7: But yeah, when I go to footy games.
Speaker 5: And stuff now and I see you know, young kids
Speaker 5: on their phone at eighty nine eight and they're all
Speaker 5: torment betty. It's all betting. It's all on the apps,
Speaker 5: you know, it's sports betting, racing, whatever it is. It's
Speaker 5: sort of in Australia we've got that sort of alaric
Speaker 5: and sort of atmosphere where someone who's got an.
Speaker 2: Issue will have it.
Speaker 5: They'll have a spot in the in the friends group,
Speaker 5: you know, so you know, over run, Todds a bit
Speaker 5: of a dick.
Speaker 2: You know, you spent too much.
Speaker 5: And it's almost like in those years when someone has
Speaker 5: no money, sort of someone just gets Tod's an idiot,
Speaker 5: like we'll just pay for it, like whatever.
Speaker 2: You know. Usually it's usually not that much of an issue.
Speaker 5: But then what happens is eventually, you know, sort of
Speaker 5: Todd gets right into a bed sort of spiral, and
Speaker 5: then he loses those friends and then life gets you know,
Speaker 5: a bit bit more.
Speaker 2: Real, bit harder.
Speaker 5: Yeah, people don't I think understand what's sort of happening,
Speaker 5: and that you know, sort of the relationship with gambling
Speaker 5: in Australia. He's like the Simpsons, right, So so Marge
Speaker 5: gets a gambling problem at Homer goes, I think you've
Speaker 5: got a problem, and she goes, yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 5: I don't. I think I need professional help, and he goes, no, no,
Speaker 5: but they cost money.
Speaker 2: Just don't do it anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, what excuse me, ma'am. Don't you think you've gambled enough? Okay?
Speaker 1: We're required by line to ask every so many get
Speaker 1: another free drink?
Speaker 4: We need to talk. He's spending too much time because
Speaker 4: do you know what?
Speaker 6: I think you may have a problem.
Speaker 1: I want sixty dollars last night? What problem?
Speaker 4: So Dan's now in his early forties, and all of
Speaker 4: this happened when he was in his twenties. So I
Speaker 4: wanted to know what Dan wants to be remembered for.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like he's on his deathbed, but
Speaker 4: I still thought it'd be a fun question.
Speaker 6: I don't want to get to more. But let's cut
Speaker 6: to your forty three. So let's let's say you know
Speaker 6: you're at end of life stage and you know in
Speaker 6: the next fifty sixty years, and what's written on your epitaph?
Speaker 2: Oh see that's a half bunge. I don't know.
Speaker 7: But you know, you know how many people.
Speaker 5: There are who are telling other people what to do?
Speaker 5: Why a there's so many people asking other people how
Speaker 5: to live. Just do it how you feel to do it?
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, if you want a bit more.
Speaker 5: Money, then you're gonna have to work a bit harder,
Speaker 5: or you're going to have to find a blitch. You're
Speaker 5: gonna have to do something, You're going to have to
Speaker 5: be something. You're going to have to make a motion
Speaker 5: towards something. People go, oh, you were just an idiot
Speaker 5: who found something. You know, like if you believe I
Speaker 5: was just an idiot who found something walking on the
Speaker 5: street and just went, oh my god, this is amazing.
Speaker 5: You have to research that stuff. You have to go
Speaker 5: deep into the systems, and you have to.
Speaker 2: Realize what's happening.
Speaker 7: You can't just go oh, yeah, give me some money
Speaker 7: and they just you know, there's more to it.
Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm not going to go.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, this is intricately what happened.
Speaker 2: Throw me in jail for another twenty years. Look, why
Speaker 2: the hell would you do that. So the point is
Speaker 2: you've got to.
Speaker 5: Anything that comes your way, whether it's legal or not,
Speaker 5: you've got to work for it, right, I'm.
Speaker 10: Not saying you do things a little illegal, of just
Speaker 10: saying that run your own race, you know, because life
Speaker 10: short and you know, if you if you sort of
Speaker 10: waste your time trying to sort of emulate other people
Speaker 10: getting buised off other people, you know, who knows what
Speaker 10: happens when you die.
Speaker 2: But just embrace the journey. We'll all get there. Eventually,
Speaker 2: what what's written on your appetite? What's written on the term?
Speaker 4: Start there?
Speaker 2: What do you what should be there?
Speaker 6: Here lays dad's orders, loved his dad does.
Speaker 2: W reckon.
Speaker 4: He is buried with a whole bunch of cash.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. Like you know, I've got a
Speaker 5: few Italian friends as well, and they're like, I'm sick
Speaker 5: of family members, time with cash.
Speaker 2: I've got the appetite and I think, I don't what
Speaker 2: what is it? He pissed it all.
Speaker 6: Just that.
Speaker 2: Herees dad's orders. He pissed it all the way, all
Speaker 2: the way and loved it.