WEBVTT - Is Dan Still Dodgey? 2024 Update 0:00:05.921 --> 0:00:07.801 Appoche production. 0:00:10.041 --> 0:00:10.761 That a mates. 0:00:11.721 --> 0:00:16.800 While I've got your attention, I just thought I might 0:00:16.961 --> 0:00:22.241 like to communicate a few things to you. Communication is key, 0:00:22.441 --> 0:00:26.241 as you know, and sometimes if I feel things, I 0:00:26.321 --> 0:00:29.841 need to express them because even though they're not acted on. 0:00:30.241 --> 0:00:32.441 It's been a minute since we last sat down with 0:00:32.481 --> 0:00:35.480 a bloke called Dan Saunders and heard all about the 0:00:35.561 --> 0:00:39.921 amazing story of his ATM glitch where he was able 0:00:39.961 --> 0:00:44.281 to borrow hashtag steal over a million dollars from a bank, 0:00:44.361 --> 0:00:47.881 can spend it in four months on coconhookers and other 0:00:47.921 --> 0:00:54.561 fun stuff. Dan dubbed himself in, went to jail, and 0:00:54.601 --> 0:00:56.920 then ended up telling me about it all in a 0:00:56.961 --> 0:01:02.401 podcast back in February of twenty twenty two. Since then, 0:01:02.521 --> 0:01:05.721 Dan and I have become mates. To be honest, I 0:01:05.721 --> 0:01:07.481 feel like I got the raw end of the deal. 0:01:07.721 --> 0:01:09.600 I mean, if I knew Dan back when the glitch 0:01:09.681 --> 0:01:11.761 was going on, then things would have been a damn 0:01:11.801 --> 0:01:14.560 site more fun. But I also might have ended. 0:01:14.481 --> 0:01:15.041 Up in jail. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:17.481 The first thing I feel to say is I hope 0:01:17.481 --> 0:01:19.401 you're well, and I hope the family as well. 0:01:19.441 --> 0:01:22.521 I hope that it's going well and the business is good, 0:01:23.121 --> 0:01:24.200 and yeah. 0:01:24.121 --> 0:01:27.200 Everything's fucking homewards and upwards because I always wish that could. 0:01:28.121 --> 0:01:31.160 So under the promise of a free Nando's meal, Dan 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.761 jumped on a train from a mystery location and came 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.881 up to our studios in Brisbane's Fortitude Valley, which is 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.320 pretty close to where we recorded the first time we ever. 0:01:41.241 --> 0:01:45.281 Met Amazing Jay. Yeah, you've got your own studio. 0:01:45.721 --> 0:01:47.721 Yeah, I know, yeah, we didn't have that when we 0:01:47.761 --> 0:01:48.361 first started. 0:01:48.521 --> 0:01:51.161 I just say you're a new studio and like you know, 0:01:51.321 --> 0:01:52.601 he's articular on pretty well. 0:01:52.601 --> 0:01:58.201 Let's have to go to Sidney Galore New Cash. 0:01:56.401 --> 0:01:58.721 Good to see that you're still the joky guy that 0:01:58.801 --> 0:02:00.721 we knew of from the glitch. 0:02:01.081 --> 0:02:01.241 Dan. 0:02:01.401 --> 0:02:03.881 So I want to just set some timelines here because it. 0:02:03.801 --> 0:02:06.801 Has been probably about three years since we spoke, so 0:02:07.201 --> 0:02:09.960 this will all happen. The glitch happened in twenty eleven 0:02:10.441 --> 0:02:12.921 for anyone that hasn't gone back and listened to the 0:02:13.001 --> 0:02:18.280 previous eleven episodes. But essentially, you were able to work 0:02:18.321 --> 0:02:21.321 out with your credit card that you're able to transfer 0:02:21.361 --> 0:02:24.041 money from your from your credit card to your savings account, 0:02:24.361 --> 0:02:28.240 take the money out, and then continually do that over 0:02:28.281 --> 0:02:30.121 a space of four or five months. 0:02:30.161 --> 0:02:31.880 Right, how much money did you get? 0:02:32.081 --> 0:02:36.001 But allegedly six million dollars? Well that's what that's what 0:02:36.041 --> 0:02:39.561 you say. But you owe how much? I yeah, do 0:02:39.601 --> 0:02:40.721 you wwe anything of the moment? 0:02:41.041 --> 0:02:44.441 You don't like if you don't ask you Okay, you 0:02:44.481 --> 0:02:46.680 had to COVID shot, Yeah sure, yeah. 0:02:46.881 --> 0:02:47.081 Yeah. 0:02:48.561 --> 0:02:52.081 So twenty eleven the incident happened, twenty fifteen you went 0:02:52.121 --> 0:02:55.641 to jail for a year, and twenty sixteen you got out. 0:02:55.641 --> 0:02:59.001 So it's almost like it's almost ten years since you 0:02:59.081 --> 0:03:02.601 went to jail for this glitch. Right, Yeah, it's been 0:03:02.641 --> 0:03:03.241 a long time. 0:03:04.281 --> 0:03:04.481 Yeah. 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.921 I always say that I'm just a you know, for 0:03:07.041 --> 0:03:09.721 really average bloke with it over your story, Like that's 0:03:09.841 --> 0:03:11.121 that's the way I describe my stuff. 0:03:11.441 --> 0:03:11.921 Let's stop. 0:03:13.081 --> 0:03:15.841 It's been a long time, you know, five years, you know, 0:03:15.881 --> 0:03:18.881 three or four years since we actually recorded in the podcast. 0:03:19.601 --> 0:03:21.281 Does anyone even listen to this stuff? They do? 0:03:21.481 --> 0:03:23.601 Yeah, like millions of people have listened to it. 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.601 And you know this right because randomly you get texts 0:03:26.601 --> 0:03:28.081 and messages from all. 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:31.321 Over the world, right, yeah, yeah, well you got a 0:03:31.361 --> 0:03:34.121 lot of texts. I mean just obviously people who have 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.081 listened to the story and they enjoy the story. 0:03:36.121 --> 0:03:36.961 And all that kind of thing. 0:03:37.321 --> 0:03:39.881 But again a little of text from people who have 0:03:40.001 --> 0:03:41.321 had their own bank glitches. 0:03:42.641 --> 0:03:46.961 Dance story is made for social media from Tiktoker's fun fact. 0:03:47.041 --> 0:03:49.681 While on a Nato drinking Dan Saunders went to use ATM. 0:03:49.841 --> 0:03:51.841 He transferred two hundred dollars from his credit account to 0:03:51.881 --> 0:03:52.681 his savings account. 0:03:52.801 --> 0:03:56.121 The ATM sed instagrammers this. 0:03:56.201 --> 0:03:58.121 Man found a real life money glitch and became a 0:03:58.161 --> 0:03:59.121 millionaire over night. 0:03:59.521 --> 0:04:02.441 In twenty eleven, Dan Saunders was out on YouTubers. 0:04:02.801 --> 0:04:04.721 This man discovered an infinite money glitch. 0:04:04.881 --> 0:04:06.001 This this is Dan Sanders. 0:04:06.041 --> 0:04:08.321 One night at two am, he stopped by an ATM 0:04:08.361 --> 0:04:09.321 to take out some cash. 0:04:09.561 --> 0:04:11.721 He transferred two hundred dollars from his credit cards. 0:04:11.721 --> 0:04:14.881 And even some of Australia's best horse racing jockeys like 0:04:15.401 --> 0:04:19.641 Damian Lane loves the story of Dan and the glitch. 0:04:21.161 --> 0:04:23.760 You've got some podcasts you. 0:04:25.921 --> 0:04:33.281 Yeah, there's a really good one about it Buds from 0:04:34.041 --> 0:04:40.121 Jams that Must and it is a great listen, he said, 0:04:40.161 --> 0:04:42.841 not about Country Guy. They come across a lot of 0:04:42.841 --> 0:04:45.121 money really quickly, has really good fun. 0:04:45.921 --> 0:04:48.001 And that's the reason we wanted to do this episode. 0:04:48.121 --> 0:04:50.081 For us, it was about finding out some of the 0:04:50.161 --> 0:04:53.801 questions that everyone kept asking, and for Dan, I think 0:04:53.801 --> 0:04:58.760 he just wanted the free nandos. This is made for YouTube, right, 0:04:59.201 --> 0:05:02.241 Like the amount of times I've seen the Glitch story 0:05:02.361 --> 0:05:06.481 told in different languages right around the world, and we'll 0:05:06.521 --> 0:05:09.001 occasionally text each other with, oh, how did you see this? 0:05:10.161 --> 0:05:11.601 Do you get noticed that. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:12.921 I don't get noticed? 0:05:12.961 --> 0:05:15.881 And that's kind of like someone actually told me about 0:05:15.921 --> 0:05:16.841 me the other day. 0:05:17.121 --> 0:05:19.761 Someone told you a story about this dude, did you. 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.001 And I'm like, oh, what's the card? And he's like 0:05:22.041 --> 0:05:22.561 the Glitch. 0:05:22.801 --> 0:05:24.761 I'm like, okay, I'll get on with He goes, Yeah, 0:05:24.761 --> 0:05:25.601 it's about this guy. 0:05:26.761 --> 0:05:28.960 Yeah, he went here, and he went there and he 0:05:29.001 --> 0:05:30.561 you know, got the money off the bank and on 0:05:30.601 --> 0:05:31.001 the pass. 0:05:31.081 --> 0:05:32.801 That's pretty Yeah, sounds pretty interesting. 0:05:33.081 --> 0:05:35.080 But that was Yeah, I mean stuff like that's weird 0:05:35.161 --> 0:05:37.721 for someone to come up to you and obviously they 0:05:37.761 --> 0:05:38.041 know the. 0:05:38.081 --> 0:05:40.241 Story, but I don't really know who I am. 0:05:40.481 --> 0:05:43.521 Yeah, I think that's great because it literally could have 0:05:43.521 --> 0:05:47.320 happened to anyone. Yeah, it's not just me. It's the 0:05:47.401 --> 0:05:51.161 fact that it could have happened to anyone. And I 0:05:51.201 --> 0:05:53.440 feel like there's been a lot of emphasis on me 0:05:53.761 --> 0:05:55.521 through the storytelling, but. 0:05:55.481 --> 0:05:58.921 It's actually quite serious. Like if a guy. 0:05:58.841 --> 0:06:01.401 Who's just an normal dude with an ATM card can 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:05.561 get this amount of money off a national bank and 0:06:06.041 --> 0:06:09.321 they don't want to know, particularly where it's coming from, 0:06:09.481 --> 0:06:12.201 like what happened with it, they're just prepared to obviously 0:06:12.241 --> 0:06:15.921 walk away. You reckon, there's not more people out there 0:06:16.201 --> 0:06:18.601 who've got away with a glitch like this and just 0:06:18.641 --> 0:06:20.161 walked off into the sunset and. 0:06:20.161 --> 0:06:22.520 Not told anyone. Right, I've not been stupid enough to 0:06:22.521 --> 0:06:23.440 go to a current affair. 0:06:24.001 --> 0:06:26.881 If the ACM glitch happened to you today, do you 0:06:26.921 --> 0:06:28.080 think you'd react differently? 0:06:28.201 --> 0:06:29.880 Like, so, have you ever got that. 0:06:29.841 --> 0:06:34.361 Vibe where you've been out midnight, you're around, don't have 0:06:34.361 --> 0:06:35.881 anybody left because you've got no money? 0:06:37.281 --> 0:06:39.681 Ever tried anything like that again if you were to. 0:06:40.081 --> 0:06:43.721 I'm always curious for different things, but I'm not. Yeah, 0:06:43.761 --> 0:06:46.041 I'm not sort of in that mindset where I'm going 0:06:46.081 --> 0:06:48.161 to go and do something. I know that it is 0:06:48.681 --> 0:06:53.640 fundamentally the wrong thing to do, but just myself, not 0:06:53.641 --> 0:06:55.481 because I'm going to get caught or anything like that, 0:06:55.601 --> 0:06:57.921 just because I don't want to lose myself like that. 0:06:58.041 --> 0:06:58.281 Again. 0:06:58.521 --> 0:07:02.601 Yeah, Yeah, that's that's pretty much it. I just don't 0:07:02.601 --> 0:07:05.921 want to lose who I am because you know, I 0:07:05.921 --> 0:07:08.161 I like being average mate. I don't need to be 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.841 you know, like this flashy guy with lots of money 0:07:10.881 --> 0:07:14.081 and you know Nasarati's and you know, just I don't 0:07:14.121 --> 0:07:14.841 need to be that. 0:07:15.201 --> 0:07:18.201 What are the messages you get on socials from people 0:07:18.841 --> 0:07:22.521 like that know that it was you as anyone reached 0:07:22.561 --> 0:07:25.841 out since the podcast and since the news sort of 0:07:25.841 --> 0:07:28.321 broke around. 0:07:27.681 --> 0:07:30.081 Hey Dan, yeah they range. 0:07:30.121 --> 0:07:33.721 I mean it's if you live in Australia and you're 0:07:33.761 --> 0:07:36.881 a group of mates, you'll know that you don't need 0:07:37.001 --> 0:07:40.081 sort of enemies when you've got these mates because everything 0:07:40.161 --> 0:07:43.201 negative that's on the internet, that will screenshot it and. 0:07:43.121 --> 0:07:43.841 That's go too. 0:07:44.601 --> 0:07:47.081 So I'll just be waiting for, you know, to see 0:07:47.081 --> 0:07:49.841 the podiatrist and they will just know it'll just pop 0:07:49.961 --> 0:07:51.881 up in the group chat and they'll be like, yeah, 0:07:51.961 --> 0:07:54.761 this bloke from Canada, I thinks you're an absolute nob 0:07:55.401 --> 0:07:56.641 and I'll just be like, yeah. 0:07:56.641 --> 0:08:01.281 Go bo for justin Indick, you know, like I wouldn't find. 0:08:01.041 --> 0:08:04.881 It, but they just you know, my actual favorite anyone's 0:08:04.921 --> 0:08:08.161 that I said, he's in a It's in a apple 0:08:09.121 --> 0:08:12.761 Apple iTunes review of the glitch yep and it says 0:08:12.801 --> 0:08:15.121 I had to turn it off because it sounds like 0:08:15.201 --> 0:08:19.441 two autistic people talking to each other that Blake was 0:08:19.481 --> 0:08:21.641 from the UK, and I was like, that's good, that's 0:08:21.681 --> 0:08:22.361 a double pay. 0:08:22.801 --> 0:08:25.041 It's so the best stuff is the positive stuff. 0:08:25.361 --> 0:08:29.241 People a message and they say that was amazing you 0:08:29.281 --> 0:08:32.161 did that. Why didn't you, you know, sort of walk away. 0:08:32.521 --> 0:08:34.920 You know, why didn't you just forget about it and 0:08:35.001 --> 0:08:35.841 not tell anyone? 0:08:35.961 --> 0:08:37.601 And you know, so I sort. 0:08:37.401 --> 0:08:40.201 Of just going to explain exactly what happened at that 0:08:40.281 --> 0:08:42.401 time and why I didn't and why I felt that, 0:08:42.481 --> 0:08:44.921 you know, like I was losing my peace of mind. 0:08:45.201 --> 0:08:47.281 Yeah, so that's the free stuff. 0:08:47.721 --> 0:08:51.601 Has there anyone reached out from those days now and gone, 0:08:51.801 --> 0:08:52.841 hey Dan remember me? 0:08:53.041 --> 0:08:56.201 I was, Yeah, a few people, a few people sort 0:08:56.201 --> 0:08:59.681 of around one or other. So a few people in 0:08:59.801 --> 0:09:03.321 warang have sort of reached out. But then, yeah, like 0:09:03.361 --> 0:09:07.001 the stories from the town, apparently it's quite well known 0:09:07.041 --> 0:09:07.321 in the. 0:09:07.281 --> 0:09:09.041 Town, the story. 0:09:09.121 --> 0:09:11.681 So yeah, a few people from one Garrata sort of said, oh, 0:09:11.761 --> 0:09:13.401 you know that you've been in the paper year and 0:09:13.441 --> 0:09:15.921 stuff and in our era sort of talks about it. 0:09:15.961 --> 0:09:18.841 But I don't know that's true. You put Wangaratta on 0:09:18.881 --> 0:09:21.401 the map, Well hopefully we will, right. 0:09:21.561 --> 0:09:23.601 So if there's a movie one, Garada is going to 0:09:23.641 --> 0:09:24.281 be front and the center. 0:09:24.481 --> 0:09:26.961 Yeah, there's going to be like a Seinfeld to anyway. 0:09:26.961 --> 0:09:30.521 But normally are those types of movies, like if at 0:09:30.561 --> 0:09:33.161 San Francisco you'll see shots of the bridge and those 0:09:33.161 --> 0:09:36.321 sorts of things. What's the what's the landmark spot in 0:09:36.441 --> 0:09:37.641 wang Apex Park? 0:09:37.961 --> 0:09:41.401 There's just going to be a big drone footage of 0:09:41.441 --> 0:09:44.281 Apex Park and it's just yeah, I mean, you're gonna 0:09:44.281 --> 0:09:46.481 get down the bull's head, You're going to go at 0:09:46.521 --> 0:09:49.081 the commercial. You just can add a very good time. 0:09:49.321 --> 0:09:51.361 Just get down a way and get down to the races, 0:09:52.041 --> 0:09:53.041 just really embrace it all. 0:09:54.081 --> 0:09:56.401 Here we are in the rural city of Wangaratta. We're 0:09:56.441 --> 0:10:01.361 two hundred and sixty kilometers northeast of Melbourne in the 0:10:01.441 --> 0:10:05.441 amazing rural city of Wangarada. So come a nixt floor 0:10:06.841 --> 0:10:07.721 where my family. 0:10:12.081 --> 0:10:14.561 So the question that we get all the time on 0:10:14.601 --> 0:10:17.681 social media and when we talk to people about your story, 0:10:18.121 --> 0:10:22.001 is Stan spent all this money on things you didn't 0:10:22.001 --> 0:10:28.881 need a receipt for coke hookers, those types of things right. Generally, 0:10:28.961 --> 0:10:34.161 don't get receipts for those. Surely he put money, hid 0:10:34.201 --> 0:10:36.521 money in the sand or in the bush, or did 0:10:36.521 --> 0:10:40.001 a melissic attic and you know has hidden it somewhere. 0:10:41.401 --> 0:10:43.841 Well, I mean, the only thing I'd say is that 0:10:44.121 --> 0:10:47.401 it's not it's not. Of course there's more of the story, 0:10:47.441 --> 0:10:50.881 but it's not in my best interests to just lay 0:10:50.881 --> 0:10:51.761 it all on the table. 0:10:51.841 --> 0:10:55.241 And there's really no point. I mean, some pen. 0:10:55.121 --> 0:10:58.801 Push in some office somewhere, it's going to go, oh yeah, right, 0:10:59.001 --> 0:10:59.721 that's what he did. 0:10:59.801 --> 0:11:00.681 So we're going to do this. 0:11:02.401 --> 0:11:07.921 Ultimately, if a banker gets money out of his customers, 0:11:08.681 --> 0:11:12.961 he's seen as like that's good business. If I or 0:11:13.041 --> 0:11:16.761 anyone else as a crack at a bank, it's not 0:11:16.881 --> 0:11:19.961 fair game. So if I said to you, hey, yeah, 0:11:20.121 --> 0:11:22.561 I've got you know, this account here and it's got 0:11:22.561 --> 0:11:25.841 this much in it, but what's the point. I mean, 0:11:26.281 --> 0:11:29.001 it's all level playing field. If it was all fair 0:11:29.361 --> 0:11:31.001 and you could just say, yeah, I stitched them up 0:11:31.041 --> 0:11:33.281 and this is why I did, and nothing, you know, 0:11:33.361 --> 0:11:35.321 no consequences would come, then. 0:11:35.561 --> 0:11:39.001 Great, I'd tell you. But otherwise, what's the point. 0:11:39.121 --> 0:11:41.601 Did you have any troubles getting if you do have 0:11:41.641 --> 0:11:43.561 a bank account. Now, do you have any troubles getting 0:11:43.561 --> 0:11:44.241 a bank account? 0:11:45.041 --> 0:11:45.401 Really? 0:11:46.601 --> 0:11:50.841 I think I think I can't transfer money between my accounts. 0:11:52.801 --> 0:11:54.761 That's a smart move from it. 0:11:55.001 --> 0:11:58.121 Seems to be a blanket move by banks, which is 0:11:58.241 --> 0:12:00.601 I mean, you can see why, you see what it does. 0:12:00.761 --> 0:12:04.681 It does get a little bit like annoying, but yeah, 0:12:04.761 --> 0:12:06.201 I mean you can see what what. 0:12:06.161 --> 0:12:09.321 Does life look like at the moment? For Dan sounds 0:12:09.401 --> 0:12:13.761 like girlfriend, boyfriend, what's the what's your what's your domestic situation? 0:12:13.921 --> 0:12:16.321 Then, I mean like, like's the best. 0:12:16.361 --> 0:12:20.361 I mean, I'm not I'm not I'm not swimming in cash. 0:12:20.561 --> 0:12:20.881 I'm not. 0:12:21.361 --> 0:12:23.961 I just yeah, I value the connections I have with people, 0:12:24.081 --> 0:12:26.441 and you know, through this story, I've been able to 0:12:26.441 --> 0:12:30.441 make many connections all through the world and that's been amazing. 0:12:30.481 --> 0:12:32.201 That's been the best bit of it all. You know, 0:12:32.281 --> 0:12:35.721 that's the bit that I didn't even think would have happened. Yeah, 0:12:35.721 --> 0:12:38.641 in terms of like marital status. So I don't really 0:12:38.681 --> 0:12:42.201 think that, you know, like that's anyone's you know, like 0:12:42.521 --> 0:12:45.441 I really I don't really mind if sort of people 0:12:45.481 --> 0:12:47.761 know everything about my life, but the other celebrity or 0:12:47.761 --> 0:12:50.561 real the other just you know, roll into the valley 0:12:50.961 --> 0:12:53.161 every now and there to do a podcast and just 0:12:53.161 --> 0:12:54.921 go back to the normal life. 0:12:54.961 --> 0:12:57.761 You know, it's not really are so? Is that a 0:12:58.001 --> 0:12:58.761 yes or no? 0:12:59.361 --> 0:13:02.081 That I'm extremely happy in my current situation? 0:13:02.441 --> 0:13:03.361 And where are you living? 0:13:04.041 --> 0:13:06.441 I just live in a place borro Bay. I don't 0:13:06.441 --> 0:13:08.881 know whether you've heard of it. I I just did 0:13:08.961 --> 0:13:12.201 famous people. Now. I just I do a little bit 0:13:12.241 --> 0:13:15.601 of like my help with the cleaning, like properties and 0:13:15.601 --> 0:13:17.721 stuff like that. I don't Yeah, I don't really are 0:13:18.281 --> 0:13:19.201 if right about now? 0:13:19.281 --> 0:13:22.841 You feel Dan's being a little cagey about Howie Eann's coin, 0:13:23.401 --> 0:13:27.121 whether he's married, single or whatever. I feel the same too. 0:13:27.481 --> 0:13:29.401 Me and Dan are mates, but I get the feeling 0:13:29.481 --> 0:13:32.761 Dan doesn't want to share too much with too many people, 0:13:33.401 --> 0:13:35.041 certainly not a bloke who's going to put it in 0:13:35.081 --> 0:13:39.161 a podcast. But I've always wondered, is this because A 0:13:39.481 --> 0:13:44.161 Dan's dodgy? B He's just a private guy. See he's 0:13:44.201 --> 0:13:46.841 got money stashed in a bag somewhere in a backyard 0:13:47.601 --> 0:13:50.481 or d all of the above. Dan's now in his 0:13:50.561 --> 0:13:53.041 early forties, and all of this happened when he was 0:13:53.201 --> 0:13:56.521 in his twenties. Maybe we'll never get to know or 0:13:56.561 --> 0:14:00.241 maybe this movie that we've been banging on about for 0:14:00.281 --> 0:14:02.841 the last two and a bit years will actually come 0:14:02.881 --> 0:14:04.481 off and reveal all. 0:14:05.201 --> 0:14:07.721 No, it's I mean, I guess it's you know, do 0:14:07.761 --> 0:14:08.481 you get something else? 0:14:08.561 --> 0:14:11.521 But takes a lot, But yeah, it's good that you 0:14:11.601 --> 0:14:12.761 said talk because. 0:14:14.081 --> 0:14:18.001 Hollywood movie studio are we allowed to say which one? 0:14:18.721 --> 0:14:20.681 You can say which one if you like? All speak? 0:14:20.681 --> 0:14:25.281 You sure not in the room, you know, don't trust 0:14:25.281 --> 0:14:29.521 anything as that. But yeah, I mean, it's it searched 0:14:29.641 --> 0:14:30.161 like pictures. 0:14:30.601 --> 0:14:33.001 They're part of Disney, part of Disney. 0:14:32.881 --> 0:14:36.801 They've made the approach and as hey, listen is what 0:14:36.841 --> 0:14:37.481 we wanted. 0:14:37.241 --> 0:14:41.041 To do, and so the is it documentary or an 0:14:41.041 --> 0:14:42.721 actual dramatization of. 0:14:42.761 --> 0:14:44.441 Believe it's an actual movie? 0:14:44.841 --> 0:14:45.641 Too much about it. 0:14:47.201 --> 0:14:49.761 But then there's another more who want to make the 0:14:49.801 --> 0:14:53.281 movie as well. Okay, and then there's another company I 0:14:53.321 --> 0:14:56.481 think it's called October Films something like that. 0:14:57.241 --> 0:14:57.961 I don't know. 0:14:58.441 --> 0:15:02.161 I've never really had any interaction with them, certainly not 0:15:02.201 --> 0:15:05.641 in the last you know, ten years or something. 0:15:05.961 --> 0:15:10.281 So yeah, it's yes, it's weird like they've done a 0:15:10.321 --> 0:15:11.361 script apparently too. 0:15:11.561 --> 0:15:15.281 They've got funding from Film New South Wales. Then there's 0:15:15.281 --> 0:15:20.681 this other guy who is part of He's like I 0:15:20.761 --> 0:15:25.041 got at a company in the UK and which name 0:15:25.161 --> 0:15:29.041 escapes me, but he's got a television series in the pipeline, 0:15:29.041 --> 0:15:31.881 like an Australian television series. 0:15:31.641 --> 0:15:33.041 And so what do you do for any of this? 0:15:33.401 --> 0:15:35.081 Can you be associated with any of that stuff? 0:15:35.081 --> 0:15:36.721 I don't think so, okay, I think so. 0:15:36.761 --> 0:15:39.001 I think it's I mean, there's stories out there, right, so. 0:15:39.481 --> 0:15:40.521 Anyone can do it. 0:15:41.241 --> 0:15:45.281 Apparently the entertainment sort of lawyers or whatever they said 0:15:45.281 --> 0:15:47.561 that anyone can do it. So it's not like it's 0:15:48.441 --> 0:15:50.881 it's something where they need my permission or they need 0:15:50.881 --> 0:15:52.641 me to do anything or anything like that. 0:15:53.601 --> 0:15:56.241 Yeah, so I have lastly no idea. 0:15:57.881 --> 0:16:00.201 So yeah, do you benefit from it in any way? 0:16:00.521 --> 0:16:03.361 Well, I wouldn't think so, okay, I don't know. I 0:16:03.401 --> 0:16:05.201 think I'm just going to I think the most I'm 0:16:05.201 --> 0:16:05.761 going to get. 0:16:05.601 --> 0:16:09.961 From it is like a Nando's from you occasionally that 0:16:10.041 --> 0:16:13.561 might be it, but otherwise no, I don't think so. 0:16:14.081 --> 0:16:16.041 And to be honest, like, it wouldn't. 0:16:15.681 --> 0:16:18.921 Be the amount of money where I'd be like, oh, 0:16:19.161 --> 0:16:21.281 you know, I wouldn't sort of look at the amount 0:16:21.321 --> 0:16:24.281 of money and go, oh, that's a life changing amount, 0:16:24.681 --> 0:16:26.961 you know, I'm going to try and run the gourd or. 0:16:26.921 --> 0:16:27.481 Anything like that. 0:16:27.521 --> 0:16:30.841 We're not talking like, yeah, we're not talking Midians and 0:16:30.841 --> 0:16:33.721 then we're just talking like, you know, maybe tens of thousands, 0:16:33.721 --> 0:16:36.401 but not not a heap of money. So I don't 0:16:36.401 --> 0:16:39.721 really Yeah, I'm not really going to go and you know, 0:16:40.121 --> 0:16:42.041 especially now, like I'm not really going to go and 0:16:42.121 --> 0:16:46.441 put myself on on them and accept money when you know, 0:16:46.521 --> 0:16:48.641 basically they could just come and take it off you anyway. 0:16:48.721 --> 0:16:51.961 And yeah, maybe there's other ways. I don't know. 0:16:52.761 --> 0:16:54.841 So what else is going on in Dad's orders' life 0:16:54.881 --> 0:16:55.881 in twenty twenty four. 0:16:56.081 --> 0:16:57.961 I'm just I'm just really average broke. 0:16:58.521 --> 0:17:00.241 Like I'll say, you know, a couple of people listening 0:17:00.241 --> 0:17:03.081 to it's like, I'm just nah, I mean, it's just 0:17:04.241 --> 0:17:04.641 it's a. 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.880 It's such a like it's become. 0:17:08.881 --> 0:17:12.281 I don't think about the glitch every day, but it 0:17:12.360 --> 0:17:15.761 always comes up, like there's always a message about it. 0:17:16.001 --> 0:17:19.321 There's sort of something going on. But other than that, 0:17:19.481 --> 0:17:22.920 I'm just working on working on the goals. Like I 0:17:22.961 --> 0:17:26.361 love the idea of having the retreat. I love, Yeah, 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.720 I love my friends, love to you know, connect with people, 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.801 just keep talking to people. Just keep enjoying, enjoying life. 0:17:33.801 --> 0:17:36.201 For me, it's not you know, it's not just. 0:17:36.281 --> 0:17:37.481 Enjoy life in a different way. 0:17:37.521 --> 0:17:37.721 Now. 0:17:38.761 --> 0:17:40.921 Dan talk to me about the idea that he has, 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.361 and it was to make a retreat somewhere in Byron 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.961 where people who had gambling issues could go and spend 0:17:46.041 --> 0:17:49.241 time and maybe get away from the Dapto dogs or 0:17:49.281 --> 0:17:53.920 the quality at Doom but on a Saturday afternoon. Quite genuinely, 0:17:54.241 --> 0:17:57.200 Dan does think gambling is a big issue and it 0:17:57.360 --> 0:18:00.201 certainly didn't help him during his time with the glitch. 0:18:01.321 --> 0:18:03.961 You know, I'm pretty happy to go about this. Yeah, 0:18:03.961 --> 0:18:08.721 there's clearly issues here around you know, money. Like I've 0:18:08.721 --> 0:18:11.880 had problems with gambling in the past, like absolutely like 0:18:12.001 --> 0:18:15.681 one hundred and you know, I didn't sort of go 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.001 you know, I don't dwell on that stuff because I'm 0:18:19.120 --> 0:18:22.241 positive person. I just you know, like if if if 0:18:22.281 --> 0:18:23.880 I do the wrong thing, I feel like, you know, 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.080 I've done the wrong thing. I don't sort of you know, 0:18:26.201 --> 0:18:28.640 sit there and go, oh how bad it is for me. 0:18:28.721 --> 0:18:30.881 I just sort of move on and try and learn 0:18:30.961 --> 0:18:33.721 from it. And yeah, I mean one of the one 0:18:33.721 --> 0:18:36.600 of my big hairy goals is to actually open a 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:41.640 retreat one day four young guys who have you know, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:46.001 have got a gambling problem or have some substance abuse 0:18:46.041 --> 0:18:48.321 issues or whatever, and they can just come and have 0:18:48.360 --> 0:18:50.761 a chat because the eighteen year old me or the 0:18:50.801 --> 0:18:52.241 twenty year old mate. 0:18:52.360 --> 0:18:56.201 Would have like benefit from that love that like. 0:18:56.201 --> 0:18:58.760 You know, that planning of that seed, Like hey, do 0:18:58.801 --> 0:19:00.761 you think you know you might want to you know, 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:02.680 sort of go on a different path or this is 0:19:02.721 --> 0:19:04.880 you know what it will lead to later on, you 0:19:04.921 --> 0:19:09.480 know what, being bankrupt and like all sorts of stuff. 0:19:09.521 --> 0:19:10.961