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Speaker 2: That a mates.

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Speaker 3: While I've got your attention, I just thought I might

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Speaker 3: like to communicate a few things to you. Communication is key,

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Speaker 3: as you know, and sometimes if I feel things, I

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Speaker 3: need to express them because even though they're not acted on.

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Speaker 4: It's been a minute since we last sat down with

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Speaker 4: a bloke called Dan Saunders and heard all about the

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Speaker 4: amazing story of his ATM glitch where he was able

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Speaker 4: to borrow hashtag steal over a million dollars from a bank,

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Speaker 4: can spend it in four months on coconhookers and other

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Speaker 4: fun stuff. Dan dubbed himself in, went to jail, and

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Speaker 4: then ended up telling me about it all in a

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Speaker 4: podcast back in February of twenty twenty two. Since then,

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Speaker 4: Dan and I have become mates. To be honest, I

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Speaker 4: feel like I got the raw end of the deal.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if I knew Dan back when the glitch

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Speaker 4: was going on, then things would have been a damn

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Speaker 4: site more fun. But I also might have ended.

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Speaker 2: Up in jail.

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Speaker 3: The first thing I feel to say is I hope

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Speaker 3: you're well, and I hope the family as well.

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Speaker 2: I hope that it's going well and the business is good,

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Speaker 2: and yeah.

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Speaker 5: Everything's fucking homewards and upwards because I always wish that could.

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Speaker 4: So under the promise of a free Nando's meal, Dan

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Speaker 4: jumped on a train from a mystery location and came

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Speaker 4: up to our studios in Brisbane's Fortitude Valley, which is

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Speaker 4: pretty close to where we recorded the first time we ever.

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Speaker 2: Met Amazing Jay. Yeah, you've got your own studio.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, yeah, we didn't have that when we

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Speaker 7: I just say you're a new studio and like you know,

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Speaker 7: he's articular on pretty well.

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Speaker 5: Let's have to go to Sidney Galore New Cash.

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Speaker 4: Good to see that you're still the joky guy that

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Speaker 4: we knew of from the glitch.

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Speaker 2: Dan.

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Speaker 6: So I want to just set some timelines here because it.

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Speaker 4: Has been probably about three years since we spoke, so

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Speaker 4: this will all happen. The glitch happened in twenty eleven

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Speaker 4: for anyone that hasn't gone back and listened to the

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Speaker 4: previous eleven episodes. But essentially, you were able to work

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Speaker 4: out with your credit card that you're able to transfer

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Speaker 4: money from your from your credit card to your savings account,

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Speaker 4: take the money out, and then continually do that over

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Speaker 4: a space of four or five months.

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Speaker 6: Right, how much money did you get?

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Speaker 4: But allegedly six million dollars? Well that's what that's what

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Speaker 4: you say. But you owe how much? I yeah, do

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Speaker 4: you wwe anything of the moment?

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Speaker 5: You don't like if you don't ask you Okay, you

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Speaker 5: had to COVID shot, Yeah sure, yeah.

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Speaker 4: So twenty eleven the incident happened, twenty fifteen you went

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Speaker 4: to jail for a year, and twenty sixteen you got out.

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Speaker 6: So it's almost like it's almost ten years since you

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Speaker 6: went to jail for this glitch. Right, Yeah, it's been

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Speaker 6: a long time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I always say that I'm just a you know, for

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Speaker 5: really average bloke with it over your story, Like that's

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Speaker 5: that's the way I describe my stuff.

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Speaker 2: Let's stop.

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Speaker 5: It's been a long time, you know, five years, you know,

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Speaker 5: three or four years since we actually recorded in the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Does anyone even listen to this stuff? They do?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like millions of people have listened to it.

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Speaker 4: And you know this right because randomly you get texts

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Speaker 4: and messages from all.

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Speaker 5: Over the world, right, yeah, yeah, well you got a

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Speaker 5: lot of texts. I mean just obviously people who have

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Speaker 2: And all that kind of thing.

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Speaker 5: But again a little of text from people who have

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Speaker 5: had their own bank glitches.

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Speaker 4: Dance story is made for social media from Tiktoker's fun fact.

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Speaker 1: While on a Nato drinking Dan Saunders went to use ATM.

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Speaker 2: He transferred two hundred dollars from his credit account to

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Speaker 2: his savings account.

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Speaker 1: The ATM sed instagrammers this.

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Speaker 5: Man found a real life money glitch and became a

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Speaker 6: In twenty eleven, Dan Saunders was out on YouTubers.

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Speaker 7: This man discovered an infinite money glitch.

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Speaker 2: This this is Dan Sanders.

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Speaker 8: One night at two am, he stopped by an ATM

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Speaker 2: He transferred two hundred dollars from his credit cards.

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Speaker 4: And even some of Australia's best horse racing jockeys like

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Speaker 4: Damian Lane loves the story of Dan and the glitch.

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Speaker 2: You've got some podcasts you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a really good one about it Buds from

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Speaker 8: Jams that Must and it is a great listen, he said,

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Speaker 4: And that's the reason we wanted to do this episode.

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Speaker 4: For us, it was about finding out some of the

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Speaker 4: he just wanted the free nandos. This is made for YouTube, right,

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Speaker 4: Like the amount of times I've seen the Glitch story

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Speaker 5: And that's kind of like someone actually told me about

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Speaker 4: Someone told you a story about this dude, did you.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, what's the card? And he's like

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Speaker 7: I'm like, okay, I'll get on with He goes, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: it's about this guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he went here, and he went there and he

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Speaker 5: But that was Yeah, I mean stuff like that's weird

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Speaker 7: Story, but I don't really know who I am.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's great because it literally could have

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Speaker 5: fact that it could have happened to anyone. And I

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Speaker 2: It's actually quite serious. Like if a guy.

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Speaker 5: Who's just an normal dude with an ATM card can

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Speaker 5: they don't want to know, particularly where it's coming from,

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Speaker 5: like what happened with it, they're just prepared to obviously

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Speaker 2: Not told anyone. Right, I've not been stupid enough to

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Speaker 4: If the ACM glitch happened to you today, do you

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Speaker 6: Like, so, have you ever got that.

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Speaker 4: Vibe where you've been out midnight, you're around, don't have

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Speaker 2: Ever tried anything like that again if you were to.

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Speaker 5: I'm always curious for different things, but I'm not. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm not sort of in that mindset where I'm going

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's pretty much it. I just don't

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Speaker 5: I like being average mate. I don't need to be

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Speaker 5: and you know Nasarati's and you know, just I don't

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Speaker 4: What are the messages you get on socials from people

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Speaker 2: Hey Dan, yeah they range.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's if you live in Australia and you're

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Speaker 5: negative that's on the internet, that will screenshot it and.

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Speaker 5: So I'll just be waiting for, you know, to see

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Speaker 5: the podiatrist and they will just know it'll just pop

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Speaker 5: up in the group chat and they'll be like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: It, but they just you know, my actual favorite anyone's

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Speaker 5: Apple iTunes review of the glitch yep and it says

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Speaker 2: It's so the best stuff is the positive stuff.

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Speaker 5: People a message and they say that was amazing you

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Speaker 5: did that. Why didn't you, you know, sort of walk away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the free stuff.

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Speaker 4: Has there anyone reached out from those days now and gone,

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Speaker 5: I was, Yeah, a few people, a few people sort

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Speaker 5: So yeah, a few people from one Garrata sort of said, oh,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know that's true. You put Wangaratta on

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Speaker 7: So if there's a movie one, Garada is going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's going to be like a Seinfeld to anyway.

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Speaker 4: But normally are those types of movies, like if at

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Speaker 4: San Francisco you'll see shots of the bridge and those

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Speaker 4: sorts of things. What's the what's the landmark spot in

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Speaker 5: There's just going to be a big drone footage of

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Speaker 5: Apex Park and it's just yeah, I mean, you're gonna

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Speaker 5: get down the bull's head, You're going to go at

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Speaker 5: the commercial. You just can add a very good time.

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Speaker 5: Just get down a way and get down to the races,

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Speaker 5: just really embrace it all.

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Speaker 9: Here we are in the rural city of Wangaratta. We're

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Speaker 9: amazing rural city of Wangarada. So come a nixt floor

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Speaker 4: So the question that we get all the time on

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Speaker 4: is Stan spent all this money on things you didn't

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Speaker 4: need a receipt for coke hookers, those types of things right. Generally,

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Speaker 5: I think I think I can't transfer money between my accounts.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's not really are so? Is that a

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Speaker 7: That I'm extremely happy in my current situation?

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Speaker 4: And where are you living?

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Speaker 4: maybe this movie that we've been banging on about for

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Speaker 7: No, it's I mean, I guess it's you know, do

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Speaker 2: But takes a lot, But yeah, it's good that you

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Speaker 4: Hollywood movie studio are we allowed to say which one?

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Speaker 2: You can say which one if you like? All speak?

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Speaker 5: You sure not in the room, you know, don't trust

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Speaker 2: They're part of Disney, part of Disney.

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Speaker 5: They've made the approach and as hey, listen is what

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Speaker 4: To do, and so the is it documentary or an

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Speaker 7: Believe it's an actual movie?

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Speaker 2: Too much about it.

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Speaker 5: But then there's another more who want to make the

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Speaker 5: I've never really had any interaction with them, certainly not

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Speaker 6: And so what do you do for any of this?

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Speaker 6: Can you be associated with any of that stuff?

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Speaker 4: I think it's I mean, there's stories out there, right, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have lastly no idea.

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Speaker 7: Well, I wouldn't think so, okay, I don't know. I

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Speaker 5: From it is like a Nando's from you occasionally that

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Speaker 5: basically they could just come and take it off you anyway.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, maybe there's other ways. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: So what else is going on in Dad's orders' life

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just really average broke.

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Speaker 5: Like I'll say, you know, a couple of people listening

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Speaker 7: It's such a like it's become.

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Speaker 5: I don't think about the glitch every day, but it

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Speaker 5: There's sort of something going on. But other than that,

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Speaker 7: For me, it's not you know, it's not just.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy life in a different way.

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Speaker 5: All roses and oh they're going to make a movie.

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Speaker 7: Look, but yeah, maybe we could.

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Speaker 5: They'll have a spot in the in the friends group,

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Speaker 5: And it's almost like in those years when someone has

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Speaker 2: Real, bit harder.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, people don't I think understand what's sort of happening,

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Speaker 4: do you know what?

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Speaker 6: I think you may have a problem.

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Speaker 1: I want sixty dollars last night? What problem?

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Speaker 4: So Dan's now in his early forties, and all of

445
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Speaker 4: this happened when he was in his twenties. So I

446
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Speaker 4: wanted to know what Dan wants to be remembered for.

447
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like he's on his deathbed, but

448
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Speaker 4: I still thought it'd be a fun question.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to get to more. But let's cut

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Speaker 6: to your forty three. So let's let's say you know

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Speaker 6: you're at end of life stage and you know in

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Speaker 6: the next fifty sixty years, and what's written on your epitaph?

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Speaker 2: Oh see that's a half bunge. I don't know.

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Speaker 7: But you know, you know how many people.

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Speaker 5: There are who are telling other people what to do?

456
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Speaker 5: Why a there's so many people asking other people how

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Speaker 5: to live. Just do it how you feel to do it?

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, if you want a bit more.

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Speaker 5: Money, then you're gonna have to work a bit harder,

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Speaker 5: or you're going to have to find a blitch. You're

461
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Speaker 5: gonna have to do something, You're going to have to

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Speaker 5: be something. You're going to have to make a motion

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Speaker 5: towards something. People go, oh, you were just an idiot

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Speaker 5: who found something. You know, like if you believe I

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Speaker 5: was just an idiot who found something walking on the

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Speaker 5: street and just went, oh my god, this is amazing.

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Speaker 5: You have to research that stuff. You have to go

468
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Speaker 5: deep into the systems, and you have to.

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Speaker 2: Realize what's happening.

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Speaker 7: You can't just go oh, yeah, give me some money

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Speaker 7: and they just you know, there's more to it.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm not going to go.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, this is intricately what happened.

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Speaker 2: Throw me in jail for another twenty years. Look, why

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Speaker 2: the hell would you do that. So the point is

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Speaker 2: you've got to.

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Speaker 5: Anything that comes your way, whether it's legal or not,

478
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Speaker 5: you've got to work for it, right, I'm.

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Speaker 10: Not saying you do things a little illegal, of just

480
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Speaker 10: saying that run your own race, you know, because life

481
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Speaker 10: short and you know, if you if you sort of

482
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Speaker 10: waste your time trying to sort of emulate other people

483
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Speaker 10: getting buised off other people, you know, who knows what

484
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Speaker 10: happens when you die.

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Speaker 2: But just embrace the journey. We'll all get there. Eventually,

486
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Speaker 2: what what's written on your appetite? What's written on the term?

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Speaker 4: Start there?

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Speaker 2: What do you what should be there?

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Speaker 6: Here lays dad's orders, loved his dad does.

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Speaker 2: W reckon.

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Speaker 4: He is buried with a whole bunch of cash.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. Like you know, I've got a

493
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Speaker 5: few Italian friends as well, and they're like, I'm sick

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Speaker 5: of family members, time with cash.

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Speaker 2: I've got the appetite and I think, I don't what

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Speaker 2: what is it? He pissed it all.

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Speaker 6: Just that.

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Speaker 2: Herees dad's orders. He pissed it all the way, all

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Speaker 2: the way and loved it.