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Speaker 2: That a mates.

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Speaker 3: While I've got your attention, I just thought I might

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Speaker 3: like to communicate a few things to you. Communication is key,

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Speaker 3: as you know, and sometimes if I feel things, I

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Speaker 3: need to express them because even though they're not acted on.

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Speaker 4: It's been a minute since we last sat down with

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Speaker 4: a bloke called Dan Saunders and heard all about the

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Speaker 4: amazing story of his ATM glitch where he was able

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Speaker 4: to borrow hashtag steal over a million dollars from a bank,

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Speaker 4: can spend it in four months on coconhookers and other

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Speaker 4: fun stuff. Dan dubbed himself in, went to jail, and

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Speaker 4: then ended up telling me about it all in a

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Speaker 4: podcast back in February of twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 5: Since then, Dan and I have become mates.

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Speaker 4: To be honest, I feel like I got the raw

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Speaker 4: end of the deal. I mean, if I knew Dan

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Speaker 4: back when the glitch was going on, then things would

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Speaker 4: have been a damn site more fun. But I also

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Speaker 4: might have ended.

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Speaker 2: Up in jail.

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Speaker 3: The first thing I feel to say is I hope

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Speaker 3: you're well, and I hope the family as well.

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Speaker 2: I hope that it's going well.

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Speaker 5: And the business is good, and yeah.

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Speaker 1: Everything's fucking homewards and upwards because I always wish that could.

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Speaker 4: So under the promise of a free Nando's meal, Dan

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Speaker 4: jumped on a train from a mystery location and came

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Speaker 4: up to our studios in Brisbane's Fortitude Valley, which is

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Speaker 4: pretty close to where we recorded the first time we ever.

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Speaker 2: Met Amazing Jay. Yeah, you've got your own studio.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, yeah, we didn't have that when we

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Speaker 1: I just say you're a new studio and like you know,

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Speaker 1: he's articular on pretty well, let's have to go to

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Speaker 1: Sidney Galore New Cash.

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Speaker 4: Good to see that you're still the joky guy that

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Speaker 4: we knew of from the glitch.

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Speaker 2: Dan.

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Speaker 5: So I want to just set some timelines here because it.

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Speaker 4: Has been probably about three years since we spoke, so

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Speaker 4: this will all happen. The glitch happened in twenty eleven

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Speaker 4: for anyone that hasn't gone back and listened to the

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Speaker 4: previous eleven episodes. But essentially, you were able to work

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Speaker 4: out with your credit card that you're able to transfer

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Speaker 4: money from your from your credit card to your savings account,

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Speaker 4: take the money out, and then continually do that over

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Speaker 4: a space of four or five months.

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Speaker 5: Right, how much money did you get?

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Speaker 4: But allegedly six million dollars? Well that's what that's what

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Speaker 4: you say. But you owe how much? I yeah, do

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Speaker 4: you wwe anything of the moment?

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Speaker 1: You don't like if you don't ask you Okay, you

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Speaker 1: had to COVID shot, Yeah sure, yeah.

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Speaker 4: So twenty eleven the incident happened, twenty fifteen you went

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Speaker 4: to jail for a year, and twenty sixteen you got out.

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Speaker 5: So it's almost like it's almost ten years since you

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's been a long time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I always say that I'm just a you know, for

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Speaker 1: really average bloke with it over your story, Like that's

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Speaker 1: that's the way I describe my stuff.

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Speaker 2: Let's stop.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time, you know, five years, you know,

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Speaker 1: three or four years since we actually recorded in the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Does anyone even listen to this stuff?

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Speaker 5: They do? Yeah, like millions of people have listened to it.

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Speaker 4: And you know this right because randomly you get texts

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Speaker 4: and messages from all.

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Speaker 1: Over the world, right, yeah, yeah, well you got a

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Speaker 1: lot of texts. I mean just obviously people who have

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Speaker 2: And all that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: But again a little of text from people who have

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Speaker 1: had their own bank glitches.

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Speaker 4: Dance story is made for social media from Tiktoker's fun fact.

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Speaker 5: While on a Nato drinking Dan Saunders went to use ATM.

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Speaker 1: He transferred two hundred dollars from his credit account to

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Speaker 5: The ATM sed instagrammers this.

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Speaker 1: Man found a real life money glitch and became a

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Speaker 5: In twenty eleven, Dan Saunders was out on YouTubers. This

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Speaker 2: This this is Dan Sanders.

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Speaker 1: One night at two am, he stopped by an ATM

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Speaker 2: He transferred two hundred dollars from his credit cards.

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Speaker 4: And even some of Australia's best horse racing jockeys like

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Speaker 5: Story of Dan and the glitch.

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Speaker 2: You've got some podcasts you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a really good one about it Buds from

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Speaker 6: Jams that Must and it is a great listen, he said,

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Speaker 6: not about Country Guy. They come across a lot of

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Speaker 4: Has some really good fun and that's the reason we

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Speaker 2: For us.

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Speaker 4: It was about finding out some of the questions that

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Speaker 4: wanted the free nandos. This is made for YouTube, right,

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Speaker 4: Like the amount of times I've seen the Glitch story

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of like someone actually told me about

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Speaker 5: Someone told you a story about this dude, did you.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, what's the card? And he's like

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Speaker 1: it's about this guy. Yeah, he went here, and he

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Speaker 1: I think that's great because it literally could have happened

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Speaker 2: It's actually quite serious. Like if a guy.

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Speaker 1: like what happened with it, they're just prepared to obviously

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Speaker 4: If the ACM glitch happened to you today, do you

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Speaker 5: Like, so, have you ever got that.

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Speaker 4: Vibe where you've been out midnight, you're around, don't have

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Speaker 5: Ever tried anything like that again if you were to.

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Speaker 1: I'm always curious for different things, but I'm not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sort of in that mindset where I'm going

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Speaker 5: What are the messages you get on socials from people like.

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Speaker 4: That know that it was you as anyone reached out

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Speaker 2: Hey Dan, Yeah they range.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's if you live in Australia and you're

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Speaker 1: So I'll just be waiting for, you know, to see

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Speaker 5: People talking to each other.

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Speaker 4: Has there anyone reached out from those days now and gone,

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Speaker 1: I was, Yeah, a few people, a few people sort

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Speaker 1: So yeah, a few people from one Garrata sort of said, oh,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know that's true.

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Speaker 5: You put Wangaratta on the map.

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Speaker 2: Well hopefully we will, right.

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Speaker 1: So if there's a movie one, Garada is going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's going to be like a Seinfeld to anyway.

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Speaker 4: But normally are those types of movies like if at

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Speaker 4: San Francisco you'll see shots of the bridge and those

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Speaker 1: There's just going to be a big drone footage of

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Speaker 1: Apex Park and it's just yeah, I mean you're gonna

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Speaker 2: Head, You're going to go to the commercial. You just

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Speaker 1: Just get down a way and get down to the races,

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Speaker 1: just really embrace it all.

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Speaker 7: Here we are in the rural city of Wangaratta. We're

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Speaker 4: So the question that we get all the time on

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Speaker 4: is Stan spent all this money on things you didn't

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Speaker 5: You know, it's not really are so is that a

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Speaker 1: No, it's I mean, I guess it's you know, do

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Speaker 4: Hollywood movie studio are we allowed to say which one?

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Speaker 2: You can say which one if you like? All speak?

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Speaker 1: You sure not in the room, you know, don't trust

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Speaker 5: They're part of Disney, part of Disney.

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Speaker 1: They've made the approach and as hey, listen is what

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Speaker 5: And so what do you do for any of this?

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're required by line to ask every so many

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Speaker 1: get another free drink.

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Speaker 4: We need to talk.

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Speaker 6: He's spending too much time because do you know what,

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Speaker 6: I think you may have a problem.

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Speaker 4: I want sixty dollars last night?

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Speaker 1: What problem?

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Speaker 4: So Dan's now in his early forties, and all of

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Speaker 4: this happened when he was in his twenties. So I

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Speaker 4: wanted to know what Dan wants to be remembered for.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like he's on his deathbed, but

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Speaker 4: I still thought it'd be a fun question. I don't

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Speaker 4: want to get to more. But let's cut to your

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Speaker 4: forty three. So let's let's say you know you're at

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Speaker 4: end of life stage and you know in the next

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Speaker 4: fifty sixty years, and what's written on your epitaph?

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Speaker 2: Oh see, that's a half bunge. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you know how many people there are

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Speaker 1: who are telling other people what to do? Why a

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Speaker 1: there's so many people asking other people how to live.

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Speaker 1: Just do it how you feel to do it?

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, if you want a bit more.

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Speaker 1: Money, then you're gonna have to work a bit harder,

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Speaker 1: or you're going to have to find a blitch. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to do something. You're going to have to

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Speaker 1: be something. You're going to have to make a motion

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Speaker 1: towards something. People go, oh, you were just an idiot

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Speaker 1: who found something. You know, like if you believe I

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Speaker 1: was just an idiot who found something walking on the

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Speaker 1: street and just went, oh my god, this is amazing.

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Speaker 1: You have to research that stuff. You have to go

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Speaker 1: deep into the systems, and you have to.

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Speaker 2: Realize what's happening.

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Speaker 1: You can't just go, oh yeah, give me some money

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Speaker 1: and they just you know, there's more to it.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm not going to go.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is intricately what happened.

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Speaker 2: Throw me in jail for another twenty years. Look, why

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Speaker 2: the hell would you do that.

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Speaker 5: So the point is you've got to.

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Speaker 1: Anything that comes your way, whether it's legal or not,

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Speaker 1: you've got to work for it.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying you do things a little illegal, of

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Speaker 8: just saying that run your own race, you know, because

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Speaker 8: life short and you know, if you if you sort

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Speaker 8: of waste your time trying to sort of emulate other

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Speaker 8: people getting buised off other people, you know, who knows

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Speaker 8: what happens when you die.

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Speaker 2: But just embrace the journey. We'll all get there eventually.

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Speaker 5: What what's written on your appetite? What's written on the term?

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Speaker 5: Start there?

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Speaker 2: What do you what should be there?

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Speaker 5: Here lays dad's orders, loved his dad does w reckon.

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Speaker 5: He is buried with a whole bunch of cash.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. Like you know, I've got a

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Speaker 1: few Italian friends as well, and they're like, I'm sick

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Speaker 1: of family members time with cash.

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Speaker 2: I've got the appetite and I think I don't what

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Speaker 2: what is it? He pissed it all.

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Speaker 5: Just that. Herees dad's orders.

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Speaker 2: He pissed it all the way, all the way and

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Speaker 2: loved it.

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