WEBVTT - Mitchell Pearce's State of Origin regrets...

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, it wouldn't be a Mitchell Pierce podcast if we

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<v Speaker 1>don't speak about New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Past that of Origin, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Let that go, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you let it go? Have you let it go, bud?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you let it go? Origin.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you reflect back on that period of time?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny, like, I'll tell you when you retire and

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<v Speaker 2>you'd know just the same, like, I'll let footy go. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at peace with the next phase of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>You take all the lessons and you appreciate the goodness

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<v Speaker 2>of what you got out of the game. um but

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<v Speaker 2>yeah there's there's always that lingering regret around origin like

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<v Speaker 2>there's one part of me that's so grateful that i

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<v Speaker 2>got to play a lot of origin and to play

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<v Speaker 2>and get called back into the team a fair bit

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<v Speaker 2>you obviously got respect off your teammates and your coaches

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<v Speaker 2>and always gave a hundred percent but um and there

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<v Speaker 2>was some good stuff in there but the the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of success is something that you know if you if

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<v Speaker 2>you said to me you're going to be born again

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<v Speaker 2>and come back in your career you'd like to have

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<v Speaker 2>some some moments again and be able to rewrite your

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<v Speaker 2>origin career because it's not something that I'm– I'll be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not something that I feel like real proud of.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you too hard on yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I went to a luncheon once and I was

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there and talking about origin and it's not something

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<v Speaker 2>that I say with confidence and I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be like a sob story with that. But when you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a team when you're not really– you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>that much success, even though you've played a lot, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably one of those things. It's a bit of a–

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<v Speaker 2>it's a funny memory.

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<v Speaker 1>There were games there, there were series there, I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>where it was decided by a try or two points, right?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you're a bit harsh on yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>you're coming up against arguably the best ever put together

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<v Speaker 1>team in NRL history. So- And I know you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to say you want to use that as an excuse,

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<v Speaker 1>which tells me a lot about your character. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, I don't think you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>too hard on yourself. But if you know within yourself

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<v Speaker 1>that you threw everything at it and you should be

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<v Speaker 1>at peace with it, you then start feeling regret if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like there was more that you could have added.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've let go of a lot of that. Like

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<v Speaker 2>when you ask the question, it's just like if you

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<v Speaker 2>look back at your career and you go you're grateful

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of things and you're proud, obviously any

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<v Speaker 2>time Origin comes up, you sort of have that, A

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of– Uncomfortability? I don't know what the word is,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's gone to bed a bit more now. But,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you did ask the question.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you feel when I asked that?

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<v Speaker 2>It was probably a bit of shame there for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, I reckon. That's probably the best way to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as I said again, it's not a sob story,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean– No, but– But it's like if you

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<v Speaker 2>look back on you as a whole New South Wales

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<v Speaker 2>team and– because when you play for New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, or you play rep footy or you

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<v Speaker 2>play for the Roosters or you play for Penrith, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing for majority of the, I know for me,

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<v Speaker 2>like as a person, you're playing to play well yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're playing to make other people proud as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not to be corny, but that was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest kick I got out of my sporting

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<v Speaker 2>career was like making other people proud as well. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you'd have a big game, you're happy

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<v Speaker 2>that you played well yourself, but you're happy that you

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<v Speaker 2>did it for your teammate because you want the guy

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<v Speaker 2>next to you to respect you, you know, and You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what's in your character. And then you're proud that

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<v Speaker 2>you've done it well for the club. And then when

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<v Speaker 2>you go into New South Wales, I know in 2019,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like relieved that I could just go and like,

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<v Speaker 2>and other people feel proud of you.

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<v Speaker 1>I could remember your celebration. I could see your, when

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<v Speaker 1>the camera went to you, just, yeah, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit of a mix. It was mixed emotions.

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<v Speaker 1>It was relief, but the joy as well. Like you fucking,

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<v Speaker 1>you did it. As an adversary, you know, former opponent,

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<v Speaker 1>uh but proud new south welshman like out of any

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in that team when i saw you win a

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<v Speaker 1>series i was like fuck he deserved it like that

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<v Speaker 1>was my reaction thanks brother no no that was my

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<v Speaker 1>reaction because playing state of origin is not easy you

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<v Speaker 1>played more over 15 times i'm gonna assume yeah over

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<v Speaker 1>15 times and you don't go into a state of

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<v Speaker 1>origin series ever wanting to lose you never go into

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<v Speaker 1>a footy game ever wanted to lose and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you finally got that moment like I was happy

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<v Speaker 1>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Bala.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the state. Thanks, Bala, yeah. Yeah, that's how I– yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to let you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Bala. No, I appreciate it. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny. Like you've probably gone through it when you

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<v Speaker 2>look back on your career. And as I said, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's important I think when you finish as a player

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<v Speaker 2>or an athlete to put things to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But then every now and then when you get into

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<v Speaker 2>these type of conversations or you go to a luncheon

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<v Speaker 2>and you think back on things, there's different emotions that

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<v Speaker 2>come up or different regrets or– different.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh there's no judgment in this space brother this this

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<v Speaker 3>is you know you can be yourself with that with

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<v Speaker 3>no judgment and everyone watching today there is definitely no judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah but i think that's the beauty of um sport

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that lucky you win some you lose some you

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<v Speaker 2>have experiences life in general you get on you take

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<v Speaker 2>your experiences and then you move into the next phase

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<v Speaker 2>and you use all that wisdom to grow and go

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<v Speaker 2>again but yeah man it's um Yeah, I'm so grateful.

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<v Speaker 2>When you finish your career, you're grateful and you'll be

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<v Speaker 2>the same, you know, that you get to play. Not

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<v Speaker 2>only you've got a healthy body that you get to

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<v Speaker 2>play for a long time, but you get to meet

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<v Speaker 2>so many good people and get to do what you

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<v Speaker 2>love and get some benefits out of the game that

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<v Speaker 2>only the few get to. So you've got to be grateful, man,

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<v Speaker 2>for your career and wins and losses.

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<v Speaker 1>Without a doubt, brother.