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Speaker 1: Do you know John Brown's for a Harder Man sons

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Speaker 1: and Campbell brown precent agreement with Campbell in the club

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Speaker 1: depart ways.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Brownie's podcast.

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Speaker 3: That's Right and Browni's podcast We Are Back and Judeah

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Speaker 3: popular demand. Campbell is still on the sidelines, held Brown

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Speaker 3: dog away enjoying himself in Mickenos or wherever some Italian destination.

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Speaker 3: Actually Mickings not Italian is it? Its greek'sy close enough?

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Speaker 3: Kicking off real well, but due to popular demand, we

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Speaker 3: can introduce none other than the former Collingwood coach and

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Speaker 3: probably the inaugural Tasmanian coach, none other than the great

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Speaker 3: Nathan Buckley. Great to be a big fellow.

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Speaker 1: Anyhow, it's great for you to be here. It's great

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Speaker 1: for me to be here too.

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Speaker 3: What an intro?

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Speaker 1: Well, you haven't changed the name podcast?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, I thought that i'd been more than semi regular,

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Speaker 1: that I could nearly get a burn.

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Speaker 3: Probably Now. It's funny, because we've talked about this, management

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Speaker 3: has noted to us, mate that every time you're in

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Speaker 3: here you can get a little bit of a ratings

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Speaker 3: of spike, spike, and then it just settles back down

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Speaker 3: below the level when Brown Dog comes back and they

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Speaker 3: say where is Buck? The degenerates get on the WhatsApp group,

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Speaker 3: didn't they they love, they love, They say more of Bucks,

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Speaker 3: less a brown Dog and definitely none of Bro.

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Speaker 1: I would I would swap places with brand Dog at

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Speaker 1: the moment. Have you seen some of his social content.

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Speaker 3: Today with it?

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Speaker 1: It's not the who's who over there?

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Speaker 2: He's living the life over there?

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Speaker 3: Was he wasn't a basis his wedding was he.

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Speaker 1: Did you notice that what was the game? The Italian

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Speaker 1: game that he went and watched? It was like like

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Speaker 1: a Kabati but an Italian version of where.

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Speaker 3: They go into the square and it's just in the court,

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Speaker 3: in the courtyards, sorry, the town hall or the correct square. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So quite an attempt to be able to tax deduct

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Speaker 1: his his holiday expenses as a business trip because he's

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Speaker 1: put the out he's gone doing homework for Kapati like,

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Speaker 1: so he's clearly doing it so he can claim the

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Speaker 1: expenses as a tax.

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Speaker 3: And we know the tax department doing wonderful things in

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Speaker 3: this country, and the tax commission is out there. I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure any degeneratesive tax commissioners, but I'm sure they'll

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Speaker 3: be taking none of those comments. Nathan, Well, I'd be

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Speaker 3: following it up. Do you reckon he's generally going to

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Speaker 3: claim for this trip? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I should ask you when he comes back. Let's

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Speaker 1: just ask him and then ask him what percentage of

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Speaker 1: your trip do you think was business? And what percentage

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Speaker 1: was social?

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Speaker 2: And never has a game suited someone more than Campbell.

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Speaker 2: There's no skill required, It's just an all in brawl essentially, May.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there's no particular outcome, just the process of butting heads.

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Speaker 3: Now a big week in Canes last week. I'm glad

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Speaker 3: to inform everyone that May Olivia, she just stayed champion.

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Speaker 3: She represented her the Gold Coast region in the AFL titles.

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Speaker 3: The Girl's footy up there and the underrat ends camp

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Speaker 3: up in cans More and you just a little get

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Speaker 3: they won the four games and won the grand final

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Speaker 3: locked out a sunny coast. So I had a great

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Speaker 1: It's wondering what your chest all the all of the

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Speaker 1: ground balls, or the tacklic practice, or the come to

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Speaker 3: Good ground ball early in the Grand Final, and Live

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Speaker 3: she's kicked the first goal of the day and finger

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Speaker 3: up the finger alert. She's climbed the celebration well, but

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Speaker 3: I gave it to Nick Nick saw and then Live

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Speaker 3: watched Nick doing there before it even an interesting that

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Speaker 3: one though, so clearly the concussion things having an effect

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Speaker 3: all throughout the medical fraternity, even at grassroots level, because

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Speaker 3: Live copped a little bit of a clip in the head.

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Speaker 3: And the second game. There's four games. The second game

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Speaker 3: they five minutes and she kicked the goal, set up

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Speaker 3: another one. I thought I had good this. I was

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Speaker 3: there with the old man pop his he had his

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Speaker 3: the cuts. Now have you ever seen that done? No stitching, no, no,

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Speaker 3: but they just put the glue to the suit. Trampick

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Speaker 3: well made it work perfectly. But he's the kicker. I

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Speaker 3: Even though she wasn't gonna cast her any of that

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Speaker 3: She rode to play tomorrow? He said what I said,

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Speaker 3: AFL or sporting. He goes, why would she be playing that?

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Speaker 3: I said, that's not the question, mate. Is she allowed

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Speaker 3: she'll be fine. Anyway, she went on. She did well,

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Speaker 3: so I'm very proud of it. But I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: what I'm very proud I've as the commissioner of the

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Speaker 3: Carton Draft, my boys have been magnificent this year. Bucks

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Speaker 3: not so much. You let us down a couple of

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Speaker 3: We've had to go for the big goal kickers, the

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Speaker 3: but more importantly kick bags of goals which the fans

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Speaker 3: laugh and my may and Travis Cloak, the former Collingwood

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Speaker 3: Premiership player, one of your boys Bucks went down to

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Speaker 3: Heathmere on the weekend and put in a magnificent display.

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Speaker 3: And we've got him on the phone. Hello clerky, it's

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Speaker 3: the commissioner.

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Speaker 4: How are you son? Very very good now.

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Speaker 3: Mate, I'm in the studio with your former coach and

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Speaker 3: probably former teammate as well, Nathan Buckley. Who are You've

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Speaker 3: obviously tried to get the Carden draft back on the

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago with his horrible to spay.

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Speaker 3: But you perform yesterday in the count draft.

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Speaker 4: How was the day outstanding? Mate? I really enjoyed getting

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Speaker 4: to the western suburbs, or the far western suburbs of Victoria.

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Speaker 4: Pace me here and pulling the boots on my kicking

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Speaker 4: five goals too. Don't think at the point more but bus,

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Speaker 4: when you you blew a hemmy or something into the game.

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Speaker 4: I blew a calf fifteen minutes in and out the

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Speaker 3: Yes, well done.

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Speaker 1: No, I did my calf on the Thursday night I

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Speaker 3: I had a crack.

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Speaker 4: We don't expect it anything. I've never had a calf

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you've been.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've been the bear in the square. You're

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Speaker 1: years of your career and you probably just did that

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Speaker 1: on the weekend, right.

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Speaker 4: I didn't leave the forward fifty mate. They put me

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Speaker 4: into the CV middle of the first and that's when

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Speaker 4: I blew my calf and I was like, what am

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Speaker 4: I doing this for?

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Speaker 3: I center bands for.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, something different.

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Speaker 3: But you went rocking with? Sure you.

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Speaker 4: It's definitely not rocking, mate, No, no being one. I

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Speaker 3: That was the crowd. Mate. Did they just just coming

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Speaker 4: No, they came from one and far, that's for sure.

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Speaker 4: You know you're rolling in the country footy when they've

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Speaker 4: got the fire at the gate where you go pay

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Speaker 4: you five bucks dig and going. I rolled in. They're

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Speaker 4: like you want to meet piles, like, you know what,

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Speaker 4: might as well have a meat pile before the game.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it was not far from the

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Speaker 4: Mate, Mate, that was an extra assault to help with

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Speaker 4: the cramping. So I didn't do that. You know, there's

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Speaker 4: a method behind my madness. But it was great, mate.

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Speaker 4: The people down there were outstanding. There was people from

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Speaker 1: So pretty much what you're saying is that you've you've

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Speaker 1: So it didn't quite work.

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Speaker 4: Funny, mate, I told the calf two weeks ago, two

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Speaker 4: weeks ago running and I thought I had ten days

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Speaker 4: And it was great. I was hitting up on the wings,

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Speaker 4: I just turned and I was like, oh, that's not great.

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Speaker 4: But I went back to the goal square, mate, and

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Speaker 4: did what I did best until contested marks. That's all

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 1: The reason we retired. There's a reason you retire. Your

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Speaker 1: body packs up because our mind and our heart just

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Speaker 1: never gives up. It never gives up. Like he's the

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Speaker 1: roles he's playing in football are awesome. You're you're able

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Speaker 1: to give, gives plenty of himself. He's helping young men

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Speaker 4: Hanging the boots up made of it.

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Speaker 3: Like you did you get to sing the song?

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Speaker 4: I did get to sing the song. And the funny

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Speaker 4: thing is I didn't know obviously the song, but the

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Speaker 4: players didn'tother song either. Mate. They haven't won a game

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Speaker 4: in two years. They're all like, what's the song? And

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, well, I don't know where you're seeing

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Speaker 4: her a smile, So we sung the song. It was

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Speaker 4: a great few o the boys about we were. We

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Speaker 4: wore a mad player barb jump up. But I couldn't

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Speaker 4: smile on my face, seeing the people in droves come

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Speaker 4: Buddy kicked his hundred's goal. Mate, and everyone on the

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Speaker 4: whole town on the oval.

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Speaker 1: How long did you hang around after Poky?

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Speaker 4: I stayed around for age. I didn't get out the

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Speaker 4: until after eight o'clock and then had the long track home,

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Speaker 4: so I got home around one o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 4: Done a community mate.

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Speaker 3: You know that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I only played the nine minutes. I'm still

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Speaker 1: giving back to Neilmah. I've been to a couple of

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Speaker 1: social I went to the reverse raffle last year.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go the same thing this year, but

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Speaker 3: it went down to the port and morning this year.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, no, I haven't seen that, but no, I'm

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Speaker 3: Well, he's the big signing, isn't. I think he's in

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Speaker 3: Then it looks fit the big rooster that. Yeah, he

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Speaker 4: But love those knees going to hold up on him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure we need a bag from him

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Speaker 1: He has to go forward, to go.

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Speaker 3: Forward and kick a few gals.

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Speaker 4: Seriously told me that he's not playing down back. Will

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Speaker 4: He's got refuses, so we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 3: He'll be good afterwards.

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Speaker 1: Did you did you have the best mustache out on

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Speaker 4: You would be like this. So I've shaved it off.

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Speaker 3: So no comebacks for the Bombers. Mate, You are catching

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Speaker 3: You haven't put your name forward to Scotti.

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Speaker 4: Not now made. This car's no good. So that four

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Speaker 3: We'll give us a big statement. You are coaching him, mate, again,

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Speaker 3: how high can he go? This man for all less

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Speaker 4: I'm rapped to see the developer of native last eighteen months.

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Speaker 4: The kid's an outstanding person on and off the field.

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Speaker 4: He's got natural talent that I haven't seen to completely

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Speaker 4: I think we forget that he's not twenty till the

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Speaker 4: because this place is going somewhere, and like that's hard

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Speaker 1: Clak he that you're you're a big key forward. What

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Speaker 1: would you have weighed you? We're not supposed to be

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Speaker 1: talking about why it's modern day, but what did you

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Speaker 4: but that's where I was. I tried to get the

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Speaker 4: about forty Like I was stressing, And that's the beauty

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Speaker 1: You know I used to avoid you at the quarter

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Speaker 1: loved him and he went the big bison, just up

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Speaker 3: So what the question is?

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Speaker 1: So that sort of body shape do you that's that's

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Speaker 1: I mean, Nate Caddy's doing that. Now, what's he going

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Speaker 1: just more robust. Is that what you wreck he's going

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Speaker 4: He'd be high seventies, low eighties. So he's still lean. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I reckon he would be. He wouldn't be that big.

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Speaker 4: So he'll put on ten kegs in the next three

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Speaker 4: of what I.

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Speaker 3: Ran around eighteen or something like that.

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Speaker 4: Mate, we don't touch supplements, Bran, he comes on.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, that's a bad question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the beauty is he's like this kid could

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Speaker 4: He's got a good endurance base. He runs like a

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Speaker 4: He's getting out of there, we played a different role,

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Speaker 1: Another existence that you've lived that has become a talking point.

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Speaker 1: Tom Lynch lashed out against his direct opponent on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: You've been a premiership player, a big bodied forward who's

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Speaker 3: Do you reckon?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an interesting way mode Like I kind of

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Speaker 4: like I left the Pies when I lost my mobility mate.

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Speaker 4: That was my one would so I retired. I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying Lynch you needs to retire though, but the role

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Speaker 4: the reality of what he does. That's what they do.

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Speaker 4: Their ball move has been a bit stagnant at Richmond.

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Speaker 4: Richmond Football Club. Right now, I think he's playing his

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Speaker 4: in outside his opinion. I need him to embrace that

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Speaker 4: Tom lynch It's about him developing this football club for

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Speaker 4: the future. And I guess that's where he's going to learn.

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Speaker 4: He might not have the ten goals that he wants,

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Speaker 4: and I guess that's the difference. I'm looking at the

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Speaker 4: North Melbourn football line and look at Lakie amazing input,

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Speaker 4: Gunstant at fourth an amazing input. Why because you've embrace

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Speaker 3: Magnaioicent Mate.

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Speaker 1: How many animals you're running on the land at the moment.

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Speaker 4: Mate, Way too many that you worry about that. And

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Speaker 1: So too many, but give run through it, run run

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Speaker 3: What have we got many horses?

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Speaker 4: So I think there's probably seven or eight horses by

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Speaker 4: collect mini animals. So I've got many islands and the

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Speaker 4: cut the calf to them. At the moment, I'm bottle ready,

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Speaker 4: bottle raising a belted galloway little car. So I'm going

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Speaker 4: to see him twice a day. Yeah, in the bottle. Yes,

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Speaker 4: so you were about that. We've got turtles, chickens, ducks.

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Speaker 4: We had guinea pigs. They kind of got loose. We

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Speaker 4: got many dogs, mate, We got everything.

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Speaker 3: So say loose?

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Speaker 1: Did they get consumed? Ultimately?

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Speaker 4: Possibly? Yeah? They got out one with one with the

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Speaker 1: What's the best name. What's the best pet's name we've

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Speaker 1: got out there.

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Speaker 4: We've got a cow called Angus obviously called yeah yeah,

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Speaker 4: she called Lamby as well. So the children, we've got

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Speaker 4: a four year a seven year old, they do the

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Speaker 3: Mate, who was your Who is your bunny? During your

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Speaker 3: footy career? Then? Who was your bunny?

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Speaker 4: That's an interesting one. I used to love playing on Rancy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think you should call the next animal Rancy.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: He used to walk down and strut and I was

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Speaker 4: is going to be fun because I like to have

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Speaker 4: we all do this forward And when he was strutting

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Speaker 4: down to the back line, I was like, mate, just

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Speaker 4: move aside, we'll pull you apart. And we did a

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Speaker 4: right the old Pies against the Tigers. That was all right.

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Speaker 3: He had a lot of swagger, a lot of I

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Speaker 3: love that, and you know what, he didn't pick out

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Speaker 3: a lesser lot bunny. He's gone top ransy full time,

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Speaker 3: all Australian Premiership plat. But mate, you were a great

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Speaker 3: pa for Collingwood and the Bulldog's and magnificent career. But

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, mate, You've topped it by your

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Speaker 3: performance in the car and draft yesterday with heath Mere.

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Speaker 3: I like Nathan under a massive duress. You stayed out there.

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Speaker 3: You showed the courage of a soldier. You stayed out there.

437
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,359
Speaker 3: You kick five and you've got the mighty heath Mere

438
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,399
Speaker 3: footy club home after two years on the losing on

439
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,680
Speaker 3: the losers list. You're magnificent for their community. Well don't mate,

440
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,920
Speaker 3: As the commission of the cart and draft cutos curtos

441
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:26,479
Speaker 3: to you as always, all good mate, get that moBack.

442
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,119
Speaker 4: I will grow back there.

443
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 3: I didn't know me Mitre was going to in there.

444
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 3: Just keep going.

445
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,879
Speaker 1: Well, he's a ripper and he's absolute star. He the

446
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,680
Speaker 1: thing I love about him. You know, he really struggled

447
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 1: at the back end of his career too to reconcile

448
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,159
Speaker 1: the loss of what he was as a footballer, and

449
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,160
Speaker 1: he talks about it quite openly now and I think

450
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 1: he's a massive advocate for this because he's lived it.

451
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 1: He couldn't separate his self worth from what he was

452
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Speaker 1: as a footballer, even when he knew that he had

453
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 1: to and then eventually moving clubs gave him a chance

454
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 1: to do that in some shape or form, and then

455
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 1: after retirement, like, here's the perfect bloke to be coaching

456
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 1: and developing young men in a football environment because he's

457
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,919
Speaker 1: going to help them get the most out of their

458
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 1: careers but also set themselves up for what happens beyond

459
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: because the empathy for that experience and he's I can't

460
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 1: it's such a you know, you find this The biggest,

461
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,360
Speaker 1: toughest blokes have got the big hearts and Kloki, he's

462
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 1: got a massive heart.

463
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Speaker 3: Just on the Tom Lynch thing, which he covered there before,

464
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Speaker 3: and he's important role was developing his younger teammates at

465
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Speaker 3: Richmond as a coach. I'm just interested. So I was

466
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 3: watching that game yesterday. For those that didn't say Tom

467
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 3: Lynch whacked Jordan Buttsy's opponent over the back of the head. Now,

468
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,360
Speaker 3: it was a bit of a slap over the back

469
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,679
Speaker 3: of the head, but the footy well it's blown up

470
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 3: and about saying he should be suspended for a month.

471
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what he'll get. But it was frustration.

472
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 3: It was red hot frustration. Bucks. But the previous five

473
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 3: or ten minutes leading into it. Because of that stage,

474
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Speaker 3: Tom and Chatting had a kick about half by about

475
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 3: halftime we could see clearly on TV and on the

476
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 3: commentary Derm he was talking about as a coach, he's

477
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 3: at a situation where you go, mate, even though he's

478
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 3: an experienced campaigner, he's got no experience around him to say, Tommy,

479
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 3: calm down. As a coach, do you get him off

480
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 3: there and have a word to your experienced players, mate,

481
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 3: I need you to calm down before you do something stupid,

482
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Speaker 3: because it look to me five ten minutes out like

483
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Speaker 3: he was going to do something stupid.

484
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Speaker 1: He's a senior player, he's got to be self moderating, but.

485
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Speaker 3: Sometimes you don't.

486
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Speaker 1: Though frustrated, we saw that, didn't we. But do you

487
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: think that the coach should have made the move? Do

488
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 1: you think he should have just well, I don't know

489
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Speaker 1: what's going through a coach mine. You've got so much

490
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: going on mate, in the coach's box. Obviously on TV

491
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Speaker 1: it's getting brought to our attention by Derm and the

492
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 1: visions and all that sort of stuff.

493
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Speaker 3: But would they have been aware of that sort of

494
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 3: stuff because it seemed obvious to us on the TV

495
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Speaker 3: that you know you might have to get him off here. Now.

496
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Speaker 3: Obviously you're not too that he's going to whack Jordan

497
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 3: Butts over there five minutes later. But yeah, do you

498
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: have those situations as a coach We go, oh, I've

499
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 3: got to get a player off here, or do you

500
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 3: think now you've got to expect better? You do.

501
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: And it's not so much about whether they're going to

502
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: whack someone. You don't plan for that. What you're what

503
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: you're trying to do is reset and remind hey, look,

504
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 1: you're not you're not getting the ball as much as

505
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: you like, but you're presenting, you're competing, you're contesting. There

506
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: might be something that you see an opportunity as a coach.

507
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: It's probably the ford line coach more than the senior coach,

508
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: to be honest, where you see like you've got to

509
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: try and get in like coach the technique a little

510
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 1: bit more, try and get in behind him. It's going

511
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: to make it harder for him to grab you. Try

512
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: a different tactic. Now, whether you have to wait for

513
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: a quarter time, a halftime, usually you can do it

514
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: during a rotation. But a Tom Lynch is playing almost

515
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 1: ninety six percent game time, so he's not really having

516
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: a breather. But yeah, there are there are plans that

517
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: you put in place, and then there are times when

518
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Speaker 1: you have to turn those plans upside down to deal

519
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: with the moment as it as it stands. Retrospect says

520
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: that it would have been great to get him off

521
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 1: and have a chat for a couple of minutes, reset him,

522
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: and then send him back out. But you are talking

523
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: about an experienced player here. He did he did lose

524
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: his marbles. The Red Mist was well and truly.

525
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 3: Red wasn't it looked like the Red Mist? Anyway, we'll

526
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Speaker 3: come after back after the breakdo the meat track, meat

527
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 3: tray Monday, been here for these bucks, the meat tray,

528
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 3: we serve it up. We love a me tray, dore.

529
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 3: We We've got all sorts of different delicacies and specials

530
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: on it. But aful or is it like.

531
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: Like crime cuts?

532
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: He has one out of cuts like we've been doing

533
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: for about sixteen weeks now, and now he's just repeating

534
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 2: the same stuff like it originally was. I feel it

535
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 2: it was sausage.

536
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: That's bullshitt everywhere.

537
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: This is just Brandy's segment.

538
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 3: Well, okay, I was going to go with chump chops,

539
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: but I'll go with awful. And that's the cart And

540
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 3: Footy club and their senior players probably their top, their

541
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Speaker 3: top players. So bucks you know more about this than

542
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 3: I would. But the salary caps up to about eight

543
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: to nine en million this year. Now they would have,

544
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: say eight of their pliers would be chewing up fifty

545
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: percent of their salary cap.

546
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: I reckon will It wouldn't be dissimilar to a lifestyle

547
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: speak of Geelong a little bit, Hawthorne a flatter.

548
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: But no doubt give us what you've I think if

549
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: you actually look at it, the sect, Well, it's a

550
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 3: trend in world sport, isn't it. So the pliers, the

551
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 3: top end pliers are getting paid more and the role

552
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 3: pliers are coming down in salary, I would say, And

553
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: if you're playing those role players too much money, that

554
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 3: can be the death of your footy cup of special

555
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: if your senior players are not performing. So we know

556
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: Crips is out of day near Walsh is out with injury,

557
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: mcaul has been out with injury, McGovern's been weather Ring

558
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: has been pretty solid. T DK had a great start

559
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 3: of the years at a pretty ordinary last few weeks,

560
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: Kerner has been fair to middling. I reckon Corn has

561
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: been pretty ordinary. Now Bucks, you are an Australian select months,

562
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 3: I reckon, that's right, hasn't it. He's been struggling.

563
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: He's kicked bags against North Melbourne or West Coast over

564
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: the over that last period and he's had good ten

565
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: minute periods on't outside. I don't think he's had a

566
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: good four quarter performance against a contending team for quite

567
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: a while, maybe even.

568
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 3: Quite a while.

569
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't know how far back you need to go.

570
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: But almost almost years well it's almost almost to the

571
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: day since Robo put him number one in his top

572
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: fifty and I thought that was a.

573
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: Massive over Yeah, it wasn't overright.

574
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: His best is great, but we need to be the

575
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: number one player in the competition. You need to be

576
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: able to produce that week after week after week after week.

577
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: And we know that he can't really play big games

578
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: in finals comes final.

579
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: He has had injuries, right, So you're talking about so colonel.

580
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: I think he is injured at the mark. So I

581
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 3: think he's carrying a niggl at the moment, like a

582
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: lot of players.

583
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: But see the best, the number one player in the

584
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: competition does the same but still perform.

585
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think ken I did Sporting Final Series in

586
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: twenty three last year, they had a final there. They

587
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: had a lot of injuries there. But okay, here go.

588
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 3: Because the list is in shoddy condition, Carlen, it's obviously

589
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: going to have a fair bit of surgery or definitely

590
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: a deep lookout of the off season. Mackay or Kurno

591
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: if you're going to trade one of them, because because

592
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: you've got to look for value on the list. If

593
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: you're going to try to send your play away, who's

594
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: going to get maximum vague? Now we think probably Tjk's gone,

595
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: but only Cott Mikayl Kerner.

596
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: So also the idea of trading is trading, and when

597
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: they're at the top, when they're worth twelve months ago,

598
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: you might probably miss that opportunity. Twenty four or twelve

599
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: months ago would have been really hard. Twenty four months

600
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: ago after the run that they went on. Yeah, but

601
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: twelve months ago you said, okay, when I was looking

602
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: at it, if you wanted to get some draft picks in,

603
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: if you want to to create some salary cap space

604
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 1: and have less of an impact on your on your

605
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: team's performance, Kerno was the one for me because McKay

606
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: can still give you the toll forward aerial aerial presence,

607
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: but he can go into the second ruck, so he

608
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: gives you flexibility. Kurno hasn't been tried elsewhere, He hasn't

609
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: shown the capacity to play elsewhere, So that's where I

610
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: thought the value would have been. Having said that, when

611
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: you're in there, it's such a tough decision to make.

612
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: It's such a hard decision to make because you you're

613
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: connected and invested to the person as much as the

614
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: footballer you've you've you've known he's committed to you, you've

615
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: committed to him. It's like it's it's like an intimate

616
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: relationship breakdown that you that you make a call on.

617
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: And it's so easy from the outside looking in to

618
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: say that that would have been something that could that

619
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: would have been better for the club, more optimal for

620
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: the for the prospect going forward, So so easy to

621
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: sort of throw sort of stones from out here. Really

622
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: hard decision to make, but they're the ruthless decisions that

623
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: need to take place either in the past or clearly

624
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: coming forward in and for Carlton to consider.

625
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's getting interesting to see what happens at the

626
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: end of the year. It will definitely be some change

627
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: on that list.

628
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: But then it's going to be what's best for the

629
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: club and what's best for the team. It's an individual

630
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: needs to be subservient to that. And like that, that

631
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: goes from the president all the way down of the

632
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: boot startup.

633
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: Subs subservient. Geez, that's the first time that's ever been

634
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: rolled out in Brand's also give you a strong tip.

635
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: Colloquial bang brown Dog Scotch academy should be rather words

636
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: out like that.

637
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: People understand what that means absolutely.

638
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: What the degenerates think of subservient.

639
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: I don't understand subservent. I think that. Yeah. So back

640
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: to my original point, world sport, now the big players,

641
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: the top players, are taking more of the cap. Therefore

642
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: you've got to get your role players right. So if

643
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: you think they're a role player or definitely not a superstar,

644
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: you can't be playing them overs. And the problem for

645
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: calbum before guys Williams, chair and McGovern and sad probably

646
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: chewing up you know, maybe maybe three million dollars in

647
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: salary cap space that should be around two million dollars

648
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: and say, because what ends up happening when your top

649
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: liners are struggling or not performing at the level they

650
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: need to be, those mid ranges get exposed. And if

651
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: you're spending too much from a ratio point of view

652
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: of your salary cap on those top players, that's where

653
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: it really stands out on dogs balls. So that's where

654
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 3: they've got their cap in or a bit of a

655
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: bit of an issue, I think Bucks, that's.

656
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: When you were taking salary cap and then there was

657
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing for anyone else.

658
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: There was no one else but he was performing. That

659
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: was the issue. And see the win loss record when

660
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: I was playing, when I wasn't playing, mate, I then

661
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: might change your time and w washing me out. Hey,

662
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 3: where was the highest level footy? View play? What is he?

663
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: Southern three?

664
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 3: And where you just start? You started on the beach

665
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: I did. I was captain, he is a captain and

666
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: started on the bench and year.

667
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,239
Speaker 1: But you go and look at his win loss when

668
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: he was playing when he wasn't playing.

669
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, good comeback. Hey, So that's the first

670
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: part of the May tray. I'm just going to go

671
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: to something a little bit nice. I'm not going to

672
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: go to the lamb cut and I'm going to go

673
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: to full rack of ham and that's young Alex True.

674
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: I've never seen a more exciting aerial display without actually

675
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: taking a mark than I did in the first quarter yesterday.

676
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: Sank killed a verse three men. Mate, he had about

677
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: eight cracks at mark of the year. He's going to

678
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: be an excitement machine.

679
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: Off for him to come up. And it's it's funny

680
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: when when the supporters have an opinion based on probably

681
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: the view of another supporter who went and watched the

682
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: VFL for weeks ago, and then everyone you get this round, Well,

683
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: it should be in there, it should be in the

684
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: same And it only happens when you know there's there's

685
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: an opportunity there and you've had a few losses. But

686
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: he was, he was athletic, he got highest point. He

687
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: he definitely was able to do his role really well.

688
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: Just about that.

689
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: But even the error he made, he made the error

690
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: doing the right attempting to do the right thing like

691
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: one the contest ran away would hit that target and

692
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: it's perfect and you can tell it means so much

693
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 1: to him. Great great energy from the kid.

694
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: It's exciting for the same Kilder fans and young Kill

695
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: has gone well at the other end of the field.

696
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: So look, we know they've got shiploadser salary cap room,

697
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 3: so the list management tab will be down just just

698
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: loading up and offering some big dollars. Eventually they're going

699
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: to get a free agent for two mil for a round?

700
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: Was that?

701
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: Was that an accurate That's what I which is massive

702
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: money for the play. But I guess you can front

703
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: end him, particularly because you aren't paying anyone else, front

704
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 2: end him and then just hope that, you know, you

705
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: can see your club into the future, and then take

706
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: less later on.

707
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: They've got a bit of young talent, they'll probably get TK.

708
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: So once they start falling and they start getting those

709
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: guys into the club, I think they're definitely building a

710
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: heading in the right direction right out. And the last

711
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: one the Sizzle Stakes, the two minute stakes, the little

712
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: barbecue steaks. You love those ones. It's the minute steaks,

713
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: isn't it? The bulldogs Friday Night, which was most impressive.

714
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: Was it wasn't there big guns, it wasn't Bond, it

715
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: wasn't Darcy Richard's liber Here's the other one I wrote

716
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: down English, I can't read. It was Frasier. That was

717
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: seeing as Bramble, Norton Harms. They were the ones that

718
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: were their best players, and they got it, got the

719
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: chocolates on Friday night and a big win up at

720
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: their CJ Bucks.

721
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll City won all the key one on ones.

722
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: If you looked at it man matchups one v one thought,

723
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: I know, Grundy got a little bit the better of English.

724
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: Jordan controls. Gunny was good.

725
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: Jordan controlled Richards in the end, Mellican. After the court

726
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: of time, Melican had But see that's the thing their

727
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: guns did. They weren't match winners, but they were still

728
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: seven out of tens.

729
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: You know.

730
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: They didn't drop away, so still had had an impact,

731
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: Still serviceable. Richard still kept working the way, Darcy still

732
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: hit the scoreboard from time to time. And then yeah

733
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: Norton pops up, hops, yeah, out and over. That's what

734
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: a good team does and it's what West Western Bulldogs

735
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: need to prove between now and end of the year.

736
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: Is that under pressure, that that that middle, that middle

737
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: rung and even the bottom six are the ones that

738
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: are going to stand up when their stars don't get

739
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: the job done for them.

740
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 3: Beautiful, Okay, good on you, degenerous Bucks. We come back

741
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: again on Thursday, absolutely all over it right