Speaker 1: High Scrollers is produced on gadigul Land.
Speaker 2: We pay our respects to the traditional custodians of this
Speaker 2: country and Elder's past and present.
Speaker 1: Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land.
Speaker 2: I'm Britney Saunders and I'm all right hey, and this
Speaker 2: is High Scrollers, the podcast version of your favorite group chat.
Speaker 1: We've been sharing our lives online for over ten years,
Speaker 1: so who better than to catch you up on everything
Speaker 1: that's gone viral.
Speaker 2: Oh and we talk a lot about ourselves as well.
Speaker 2: In fact, today we talk a lot about ourselves.
Speaker 1: And our experience.
Speaker 2: Online with online trolling. Indy Clinton and her sixty full
Speaker 2: page private investigation is the topic of today. And also
Speaker 2: I go through my Reddit thread and I tell you
Speaker 2: what they got right and what they got wrong. Plus
Speaker 2: for all our last stop Larimar fans, I've got an
Speaker 2: exciting update for you. Deal me and Joel. Let's go
Speaker 2: what I'm just pisson and it's Monday again, and here
Speaker 2: we go.
Speaker 1: You know, good morning.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? What's been stuck in my
Speaker 2: head since about Friday and now I'm going to have
Speaker 2: it stuck in all the scrollers heads. What you can
Speaker 2: leave your head on. I don't know, it just got
Speaker 2: stuck in my head. Been a little you know, what
Speaker 2: do you call them? What do you call it? Over
Speaker 2: the we can a bit of steam over the weekend
Speaker 2: that you just I just keep going on, just keep
Speaker 2: every time there's a pause, a natural pause, I just go.
Speaker 2: You've got to live, so anyway, use that in your
Speaker 2: next whip meaning, Oh, sorry, I shouldn't be stirring my
Speaker 2: ice coffee over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's annoying.
Speaker 2: I'll put it over here for you all. Sorry, anyway,
Speaker 2: how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good?
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 1: We're very comfortable today. I know we've got our track's on,
Speaker 1: We've got our ugs on, well, my nine ugs there.
Speaker 2: Cost Co ugs might have came out.
Speaker 1: Sorry, she's nineteen seventy four. I did go on their
Speaker 1: website the other day.
Speaker 2: We should we should be getting the real deal. I
Speaker 2: have heard their lips and bounds better than obviously you know.
Speaker 2: I came up.
Speaker 1: But I got these from Costco.
Speaker 2: But obviously made with real wool, aren't they?
Speaker 1: These? No?
Speaker 2: The ones?
Speaker 1: The ones? Yeah, yeah, kind of weird.
Speaker 2: Well see, I don't mind. Obviously, I'm not some hoity
Speaker 2: toyty person over here going I'm not going to be
Speaker 2: wearing animal product. Obviously I am no stranger to a big, fat,
Speaker 2: juicy steak, but there is just something weird to me
Speaker 2: about wearing sheep skin on my feet because when I
Speaker 2: look at sheep skin, you know, when sheep gets she Fuck,
Speaker 2: they're dirty, aren't they? They get washed? Like obviously they
Speaker 2: get washed.
Speaker 1: But you don't say they're out in the fucking field
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you're a farm animal, what would
Speaker 2: you be, Brittany, I'm going pig for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, me rolling in ship?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like muddy Maddie pig sty.
Speaker 1: You would be rolling around in your own ship.
Speaker 2: Is that what? Yes? Sign me up? Honestly, don't you reckon?
Speaker 2: That be fun though, slip and slide constantly. See I'm
Speaker 2: getting chicken laying eggs like never stop working, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Always producer.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like maybe like the sheep dog,
Speaker 1: like running the whole farm. Obviously seeo B in animal form.
Speaker 2: And I'm just the pig rolling around in shit. That
Speaker 2: basically actually sums up high scrollers as a perfect analogy
Speaker 2: for this podcast or just us in general in life.
Speaker 2: You run and around, I'm keeping shit together and me
Speaker 2: rolling around in it. Shit. Oh my god, welcome to
Speaker 2: the worst podcast on the Internet. So good to have
Speaker 2: you here, Scrollers. Oh honestly kick starting the week with
Speaker 2: a bang. We have so much to talk about today.
Speaker 2: I now, usually we have a bit of a catch up,
Speaker 2: but you know, some things have happened on the internet.
Speaker 2: I feel like we just need to get straight into
Speaker 2: it too.
Speaker 1: Should we just get straight into the Royal Flush?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. Please be upstanding for the Royal Flush.
Speaker 2: I have a quick little royal flush for you. It's
Speaker 2: kind of exciting. And you know what, Brittany, you might
Speaker 2: you might want to do something fun for the scrollers here.
Speaker 1: What another fucking fake code?
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no no, although you
Speaker 2: might want to to fund this next project. What well, remember,
Speaker 2: very long time ago we were speaking on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Remember the very long time ago.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be the worst episode ever.
Speaker 1: Did you know.
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm just gonna cut in here, cut over myself.
Speaker 1: Cut to the fucking cameras.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, last week or whenever it was, I think
Speaker 2: it was last week, we released our podcast episode as usual,
Speaker 2: and we actually said in the episode something along the
Speaker 2: lines of, if this is your first time. Imagine this
Speaker 2: is your first time listening to high Scrollers. Like you're
Speaker 2: just getting the absolute wrong idea of the podcast, and
Speaker 2: it's like we'll be in so unhinged. I forget what happened.
Speaker 2: But anyway, someone actually messaged me and said that it
Speaker 2: was their first time ever listening.
Speaker 1: To we're even talking about it.
Speaker 2: I can't remember, but they messaged and said, it's my
Speaker 2: first time. And it's funny that you mentioned on the
Speaker 2: podcast like imagine this being your first time, because it
Speaker 2: was my first time. And she was like, you have
Speaker 2: got a scroller for life. She's like, you have changed
Speaker 2: my morning commutes. Like here we bloody guy.
Speaker 1: I feel like it is quite iconic that these episodes
Speaker 1: drop on a Tuesday. I was gonna say a Monday.
Speaker 1: I should be a Monday.
Speaker 2: That's how the podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry about that, but we record on a Monday. Yeah, Tuesday,
Speaker 1: close enough. We're kicking off the week in the right way.
Speaker 2: And we actually because I don't know if you know,
Speaker 2: you only know if you've seen the social clips obviously,
Speaker 2: and also my recent concert postated about at home recording,
Speaker 2: but we're now recording at home obviously because the Nova
Speaker 2: Studio I also, can I just say, can I clear
Speaker 2: up the rumors? Sorry? Can I tear up all the rumors?
Speaker 2: First of all, two reasons people think we've changed to
Speaker 2: at home recording.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One the main reason is can't fuck be bothered? But
Speaker 2: two people thought go google girl had been fired. Rest
Speaker 2: in peace.
Speaker 1: No, Hannah's still here, but you can't hear her. Like
Speaker 1: if you say something into your and right now, can't
Speaker 1: people hear you if you've got the recording? Oh yeah, something.
Speaker 2: Say whatever you'd like. We can't hear her, but you'll
Speaker 2: be able to there you go, go for it.
Speaker 1: This is a message from Hannah. I'm still here. I
Speaker 1: haven't we can by it. I don't know if my
Speaker 1: watermelon story was too scandalous. Come follow me on TikTok.
Speaker 1: Hannah's still here.
Speaker 2: And then the other thing was people said, watch the
Speaker 2: studios cost what like novakan affords nover can't afford to record.
Speaker 2: We can't afford to in the studio, And I thought, well,
Speaker 2: first of all, it probably cost more to actually set
Speaker 2: all this up. Sorry nov But second of all, no,
Speaker 2: it's more of a scheduling thing, honestly, because Nova on
Speaker 2: a Monday is a very busy place, and we went
Speaker 2: off and it's much more comfortable here and I can
Speaker 2: make myself the coffee and all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: It's fun. It So, anyway, where.
Speaker 1: The funk was I round with this your royal flash?
Speaker 2: That's right, No, I thought I had another tangent to
Speaker 2: go on before I got to the royal flash. Anyway,
Speaker 2: long time ago, we were talking about Last Stop Larima.
Speaker 2: Remember I was a.
Speaker 1: Sor girl there trying the pies.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, we'll have to do a day trip in.
Speaker 1: Western Australia, Northern Territory.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Okay, I don't know. Fate Larima.
Speaker 1: Well pop up for one day only.
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding though. It could be a hot possibility
Speaker 2: because my royal flush of the week is that, you know,
Speaker 2: Last Stop Larimer. If you don't remember, it's that documentary
Speaker 2: on Netflix where that guy went missing, presumed murdered, put
Speaker 2: in a meat pie, possibly fed to it a crocodile.
Speaker 2: Who knows. We don't know, but we discussed it on
Speaker 2: the podcast a very long time ago. And the pub
Speaker 2: where he was last seen, this man was last scene
Speaker 2: before he mysteriously disappeared, is up for sale.
Speaker 1: It's up for sign.
Speaker 2: You can go look at the listing of Larimar Pub.
Speaker 2: It is on the market for you know, in this economy,
Speaker 2: I think quite a pretty pen. Like, no, no, that's
Speaker 2: not the right pretty penny means it's expensive, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: Like I think it's a steal.
Speaker 1: What I don't think that's a steal.
Speaker 2: Seven hundred and ninety five thousand.
Speaker 1: Dollars could buy a house.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but it's the Larimar Pub.
Speaker 1: It's like, like, what's a postation there?
Speaker 2: Ten that's like barn Sydney town Hall, you know, like
Speaker 2: that's that's a piece of historical you know.
Speaker 1: How many people are going there?
Speaker 2: Why it cares? Yeah, I'm the Larimar Pub. I think
Speaker 2: if they were asking for eight hundred k, that'll be
Speaker 2: a bit steep.
Speaker 1: But seven hundred and ninety five thousand dollars if they
Speaker 1: can get that, imagine how much I can get for faith.
Speaker 2: Well that's what I was thinking. You buy it up
Speaker 2: by the lar Pub. Make it fate Larima, because imagine
Speaker 2: the marketing behind it.
Speaker 1: It's a pub and a fate because you know that,
Speaker 1: like is.
Speaker 2: It the Prata store in the middle of the desert
Speaker 2: in America?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, America again?
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't bring up that I'd gone there. That
Speaker 2: was you. But yeah, I think I imagine fate Larima
Speaker 2: and wouldn't Perth be fucked off when if you did that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would, that would be so mad. It's actually
Speaker 1: quite cute from the outside. Yeah, I know it's pink. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what the hell it's up for sale.
Speaker 2: You know, the more we progress into the future with
Speaker 2: all this AI and stuff, the more I go, get
Speaker 2: me to Larima, throw my phone in the lake and
Speaker 2: let me live off the land. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel you.
Speaker 2: What was the population there, eleven fourteen or something? Imagine that?
Speaker 1: Wait, and that's was the Netflix thing called Lastop Larima.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If anyone that didn't listen to that one buticular episode,
Speaker 1: you need to go and watch Last Stop Larima on Netflix.
Speaker 1: It's amazing Larima population. I just am still stumped. Twenty
Speaker 1: seven people live there.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a bit much for me.
Speaker 1: That was in twenty twenty one. It was previously forty
Speaker 1: seven in twenty sixteen. The thing is, how did a
Speaker 1: guy go missing with that little people in the town.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, as we heard they just murdered for sure,
Speaker 2: Well they didn't, wasn't one of the theories that he
Speaker 2: was put in a put into a meat pie yuck,
Speaker 2: or eaten by a crocodile.
Speaker 1: Yuck. Well, look, I do think we are going to
Speaker 1: have to get there someday.
Speaker 2: To Larima. Yeah, I'm well on my way, as I said,
Speaker 2: And I just I love my neighbors. Oh I don't
Speaker 2: love my neighbors. We don't have a relationship, but they're
Speaker 2: they're nice neighbors. I couldn't like complain about any neighbors.
Speaker 2: Anyone on my street actually fantastic. But also I just
Speaker 2: want to fuck off to the middle of nowhere and
Speaker 2: not have to have anyone next to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2: I need it. I think. I think I'm destined to
Speaker 2: live on acreage.
Speaker 1: But you want to move to New York as well?
Speaker 2: Fuck? Yes, so true. See that's the other thing. But
Speaker 2: the payoff is is is easy in New York because yes,
Speaker 2: I'm living in a shipbox, but look at look at
Speaker 2: my doorstep.
Speaker 1: But there's lots of neighbors. There's millions of neighbors. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But also when I lived in my apartment.
Speaker 1: You don't see them.
Speaker 2: I never saw it. I don't know, like I met
Speaker 2: the ones opposite, but I had one on either side
Speaker 2: of me as well that I literally never spoke to.
Speaker 2: I don't think maybe once the whole time I lived there.
Speaker 2: So apartment living can be a little bit like that,
Speaker 2: like a little more.
Speaker 1: A bit like you're on an acreage.
Speaker 2: No, just a little bit more isolating. Whereas the biggest
Speaker 2: thing that I've noticed about living in a house, not
Speaker 2: that there's an issue with it, but your neighbors are
Speaker 2: just always there. And thank god I have good neighbors.
Speaker 2: You know, you've had issues with your neighbors in the past.
Speaker 2: We're fine now, Yeah, but like, thank god, all of
Speaker 2: mine are really good. But they are just always there.
Speaker 2: And that's something I'm not used because I've always lived
Speaker 2: in apartments where people leave each other alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're just in your apartment.
Speaker 2: I feel I love hate relationship with it. Love because
Speaker 2: you know, I love a gas bag. But there's some
Speaker 2: days I'm going to put stuff in the bin and
Speaker 2: I'm not looking good at all.
Speaker 1: See, I just let AJ be that person a talks
Speaker 1: to the neighbors and I just go hi, and then
Speaker 1: I just walk on.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, nice, you've got good system. Gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the talker.
Speaker 2: I'll just have to make Skuy do everything absolutely so
Speaker 2: last stop. Larama Pub up for sale seven hundred and nine.
Speaker 2: That's morale flash.
Speaker 1: Were get into something else.
Speaker 2: No, that's the royal flush. The fact that it's on
Speaker 2: sale and I don't know, do you go fund me?
Speaker 2: I'm happy to take one for the team and buy it,
Speaker 2: but you know, we'll have to crowdfund with the scrollers
Speaker 2: if everyone put in a dollar.
Speaker 1: I wonder, like the business owner in me is like,
Speaker 1: I wonder, like what their revenue is and how many
Speaker 1: people because obviously most of their customers would be from
Speaker 1: people passing through. Obviously that that's like a town that
Speaker 1: you stop, you know, as you're traveling around.
Speaker 2: Well, see, now here's the thing. This is why I was.
Speaker 2: I was. I was half kidding about buying it because
Speaker 2: look at how Las Vegas started. That was a truck stop.
Speaker 1: That was a drive through town, train stop I think,
Speaker 1: and the coal trains.
Speaker 2: Oh well, maybe that's how it originally started, but I
Speaker 2: know that Like the story that I know is that
Speaker 2: the trucks would stop at like one little gas station there,
Speaker 2: and all the trucks and then they decided, well we
Speaker 2: may as well put a hotel there, and then as
Speaker 2: well put some gambling means there, and then we may
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Speaking of blah blah, speaking of gambling.
Speaker 2: Oh god, this would be good. Here we go a
Speaker 2: bet responsibly. Everyone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was my NaN's eighty six birthday on the weekend. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: and well it was actually her eighty six on Friday,
Speaker 3: but we arranged to all go out for lunch on Sunday,
Speaker 3: so just quite literally yesterday.
Speaker 1: And where we went was like a sailing yacht club
Speaker 1: kind of thing, like in the restaurant, but downstairs there's pokys.
Speaker 1: And I thought, you know what, I said to Nan,
Speaker 1: have you ever played the pokies in your life? And
Speaker 1: she said no? And I said, Nan, after lunch, let's
Speaker 1: go down. I'm going to give you fifty dollars and
Speaker 1: I want you to play the pokey neighborer.
Speaker 2: Poor thing's gonna blow her fucker bench.
Speaker 1: Anyway, It's actually really funny. So we were there. It
Speaker 1: was AJ and I and my sister and her fiance.
Speaker 1: They're recently engaged, and it's weird to call him that,
Speaker 1: like I was just like her partner. Now I remember
Speaker 1: to save fiance and Nan and so we're there with
Speaker 1: like our bags of leftovers because we didn't eat it all.
Speaker 1: So we've all got Chinese takeaway containers full of lamb
Speaker 1: and then the cake thing. But we're in the pokeys.
Speaker 1: Am I allowed to say this on the Podhanna, surely
Speaker 1: it's fine. It was all for NaN's birthday, and so
Speaker 1: I gave her fifty dollars and I said, you walk around,
Speaker 1: you pick a machine, Nan, and she's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know. You can just picture my nat. She's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what one. And then she picked a
Speaker 1: roundom one. We sat her in the chair, we put
Speaker 1: fifty dollars in. She won one hundred dollars. Oh nic,
Speaker 1: she won like she got a feature. And she was
Speaker 1: loving it like she had no idea what was going on.
Speaker 1: And then we were going, this is the start, this
Speaker 1: is the start of her every week. Now she's going
Speaker 1: to be going to pop anyway, Love, I'm just gone
Speaker 1: up to the balls club. I'll be back soon.
Speaker 2: So next next birthday eighty seven.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take I reckon. I'm going to make
Speaker 1: it like a little.
Speaker 2: Thing in Vegas.
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's my that's my weekend. Royal flush. That's
Speaker 1: not my actual royal flush, but I thought that was
Speaker 1: worth mentioning and it was really fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Glad she got a little memory for you both.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Honestly, a lot of other core memories you probably
Speaker 2: could have made before that, but still a good core memory.
Speaker 1: It's never too late to start gambling everyone.
Speaker 2: You can't say that. Okay, I'll be the PC of
Speaker 2: the group and say bet responsibly, don't.
Speaker 1: Be stupid on her birthday.
Speaker 2: I'm not endorsing at all. It can ruin lives, all right,
Speaker 2: that is.
Speaker 1: True, But it was fifty bucks and I was happy
Speaker 1: for Nan to lose it, and she Yeah.
Speaker 2: If you're going to lose money, lose someone else's. That's
Speaker 2: the motto of the story.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: So what is your royal flush?
Speaker 1: Then? Well, my royal flush of the week is a
Speaker 1: two in one. Indy Clinton has hired private investigators to
Speaker 1: hunt down her trolls, and at the same time, a
Speaker 1: couple in America is it They have like taken down
Speaker 1: and found the owner of Tattle Life, which is an
Speaker 1: anonymous gossip forum. Slay raccoons, Slay. Yeah. We've spoken about
Speaker 1: this a lot of times on the pogmat I think
Speaker 1: people that anonymously hate online are absolute fucking losers, Like
Speaker 1: you're an absolute low life loser, and you can't argue
Speaker 1: that you're not. Oh no, but we're entitled to our
Speaker 1: freedom of speech behind an anonymous account, I reckon. If
Speaker 1: people want to in a public forum hate on people
Speaker 1: call them out for their actions. Yeah, that's fair enough.
Speaker 1: You should do it from a public profile with your
Speaker 1: face and your whole family on there.
Speaker 2: It's so bad they ain't like they ain't.
Speaker 1: It is so easy for someone to say we're entitled
Speaker 1: to our own opinion when it's from an anonymous account,
Speaker 1: and sooner or later this kind of stuff was gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what explain exactly Let's go back to the start,
Speaker 2: So explain exactly what has gone on here. So we've
Speaker 2: got tattle Life. It's an online forum of like Reddit
Speaker 2: sort of thing where anyone could just post anything. You
Speaker 2: can post any sort of thread, but it's always about
Speaker 2: like an influencer. Yeah, and then Indy Clinton has obviously
Speaker 2: has her own thread and people post on there about her.
Speaker 1: I don't know the full context of the Indy Clinton thing.
Speaker 1: It's funny that it both happened at the same time,
Speaker 1: because Indy Clinton posted a bunch of stories, yes, of
Speaker 1: her like at a dining room table or whatever, drinking
Speaker 1: a wine at night, saying like it was a bit
Speaker 1: all over the place. But it was like her saying
Speaker 1: that she's hired private investigators, yeah, to take down her trolls,
Speaker 1: because like, obviously people speak anonymously about creators online, like
Speaker 1: we all know that. But I think I think she's
Speaker 1: been like personally being trolled and stalked, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know whether it's in a DMS or whatever.
Speaker 2: I think she's probably she's probably talking about a few
Speaker 2: I have seen the Instagram account Dutch minti Okaya, like
Speaker 2: on the same spectrum as like a celeb's spell check,
Speaker 2: you know they I forget.
Speaker 1: How the web spell check still exists.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, because here's the thing. I think
Speaker 2: they they get all they get worried, They get a
Speaker 2: bit worried. Yeah, And I don't recall celebs spell check
Speaker 2: ever really doing anything too bad. I actually quite enjoyed
Speaker 2: the seeing the spelling mistakes from celebrities that was really
Speaker 2: lighthearted than fat. I don't know whether it ever took
Speaker 2: a turn because sometimes I feel like these accounts get
Speaker 2: a bit, they get a bit ahead of themselves and
Speaker 2: they go, oh, I've got a bit of notoriety here.
Speaker 1: Spellcheck gone.
Speaker 2: Now. I'm not sure, but dutch Minty disappeared the moment
Speaker 2: Indy posted all of those things.
Speaker 1: Is dutch Minty an Australian account or we don't know?
Speaker 2: Yes, dutch Minty apparently. Oh god, I don't know the
Speaker 2: specifics on it, to be honest, because I don't really
Speaker 2: dive into these things very often.
Speaker 1: Spell check account is still there. I don't follow it, Okay,
Speaker 1: I do, but they don't post any No.
Speaker 2: No, happn't in years. Dutch Minti used to be really
Speaker 2: when when they would post about which I think dutch
Speaker 2: Minti is meant to be like our dou noir, you know, okay,
Speaker 2: Like I think that's the vibe, like because I, first
Speaker 2: of all, when I started following dutch Minti up, like
Speaker 2: my brain just went, that's her name, dutch Minti.
Speaker 1: So it's meant to be like the doomir of a
Speaker 1: show like dutch Minti.
Speaker 2: It's like expose vibes, like let's expose the influencers for
Speaker 2: doing the wrong thing. But when it first started, I
Speaker 2: remember following it because I was happy to follow it
Speaker 2: because it was things like people driving and filming themselves
Speaker 2: at the same time, like one hand on the wheel,
Speaker 2: driving on the free enough.
Speaker 1: And I want to like preface this whole thing by saying,
Speaker 1: I'm all for people being called out for things they
Speaker 1: genuinely doing wrong. For example, if an influencer is driving
Speaker 1: and vologging at the same time or whatever it may be,
Speaker 1: I'm all for that. But it's like the relentless picking
Speaker 1: on people's appearances, just picking apart their life, all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, that that is what I don't like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically the thing about this is Indie, by
Speaker 2: the sounds of it, is going to sue for defamation
Speaker 2: online bulling. I don't know exactly what she's going to
Speaker 2: use it for. She said she hired a private investigator
Speaker 2: to get a sixty four page document full of names, ages, locations,
Speaker 2: on details about people that apparently these people on.
Speaker 1: The every time someone says that, I've got to say that.
Speaker 2: Really, where the fuck was I wrong with that?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I had a good point to make, and then we
Speaker 2: act like fucking idiot me and we are what I
Speaker 2: was gonna.
Speaker 1: Say, but she's high private investigation.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sorry. The people on the Tattle Life have basically
Speaker 2: all the information apparently is everything that they've actually said
Speaker 2: online in a bunch of the forum. So because you
Speaker 2: can talk about a lot of people on there, so
Speaker 2: like they've seen the profile. From my understanding, what Indy
Speaker 2: was saying in those stories was that you know, if
Speaker 2: someone has written something about her, you could click the
Speaker 2: profile and then see what they've written in every single
Speaker 2: forum ever, I think.
Speaker 1: Same as Reddit, like if you comment in heaps of places,
Speaker 1: like people can click on your page and see everything
Speaker 1: that you've commented on.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then they were able to collect a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of information and then narrow it down and find
Speaker 2: out who it was, and then they could find like
Speaker 2: that person's LinkedIn or this or that, or sometimes someone
Speaker 2: had posted a screenshot with like their profile accidentally in
Speaker 2: the bottom corner because you're on Instagram to.
Speaker 1: Take a screenshot circle at the bottom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's all these things that they've done, maybe
Speaker 2: not in her thread, but everywhere. The thing that I
Speaker 2: do want to point out is that and it's very
Speaker 2: very interesting because last week, remember a few weeks ago,
Speaker 2: I was talking about my reddit thread. A new Reddit
Speaker 2: thread of me has come up, and it's going off.
Speaker 1: A lot of people in the broadcast.
Speaker 2: Yes, got another one, not the highest rollless one.
Speaker 1: Yes, another one, other one.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't realize I put that in the broadcast
Speaker 2: channel yet.
Speaker 1: But maybe maybe send us.
Speaker 2: Or maybe it was close friends put on my close friends. Anyway,
Speaker 2: another rereddit thread has come up. Now here's the thing
Speaker 2: about this, INDI's like sewing for defamation, sewing for defamation.
Speaker 2: And then I went and looked at this thread on
Speaker 2: tattle of Indy Clinton to obviously figure out what's going on.
Speaker 2: And the thing is, all of these people are commenting
Speaker 2: on the thread going how can we be sued for defamation?
Speaker 2: It's all the truth, It's all the truth. It's all
Speaker 2: the truth. And then I had a quick look through
Speaker 2: and I don't even know Indie Clinton that well, and
Speaker 2: I picked up on four things straight away that were
Speaker 2: one hundred percent inaccurate, just because I'm a user of
Speaker 2: social media, you know, Like I found four things straight
Speaker 2: away where I went, well, that'd be deformation because that's
Speaker 2: a lie.
Speaker 1: I wonder how many people I wonder how many people
Speaker 1: have gone and like deleted their accounts and like wiped everything.
Speaker 2: I don't know whether it affects them. I thought, like,
Speaker 2: if you go and read the thread, they are all
Speaker 2: confident that this will go nowhere, and she's still unhinged,
Speaker 2: and they still.
Speaker 1: So I can't. I was like, I can't. I've said
Speaker 1: this forever, and like, I know I've already said this in.
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, get the thread up while you're talking.
Speaker 1: Okay, a few weeks ago, in case you missed that episode.
Speaker 1: I want to give some context as to like why
Speaker 1: I feel so passionately about this. And I've not already
Speaker 1: said this before, but just recapping. I started making YouTube
Speaker 1: videos when I was a teenager. And when I was
Speaker 1: a teenager, there was a website called Guru Gossip. It
Speaker 1: was basically like Tattle. And I can confidently say I've
Speaker 1: never been on Tattle because I choose to like not participate.
Speaker 1: I very well could have my own fucking threads on there.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have a clue.
Speaker 2: I'm not searching myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm never I never look up myself. That's something
Speaker 1: I'm very good at doing. And the reason for that
Speaker 1: is because when I was about nineteen twenty I had
Speaker 1: my own Britney Saunders on Guru gossip thread and remember
Speaker 1: I discovered it. I was twenty years old. I was
Speaker 1: a young girl. I was working as a waitress. I
Speaker 1: was starting my YouTube channel on my Instagram and I
Speaker 1: went on there and I read the most horrible things
Speaker 1: about myself written by strangers. Most of them were about
Speaker 1: my body, people calling me fat, blah blah blah, and
Speaker 1: I was like devo, like as any young twenty year
Speaker 1: old girl would be. I was devastated that people were
Speaker 1: analyzing my body that closely and also my friendships. And
Speaker 1: I made a promise to myself that from then on,
Speaker 1: I was never gonna fucking look at that again. And
Speaker 1: ever since then, I've never looked myself up. I think
Speaker 1: Guru Gossip is gone now. I think that went away
Speaker 1: ages ago, but then I think Taddle kind of replaced it,
Speaker 1: and then obviously read it. I don't know when Reddit
Speaker 1: came out, but there's read it as well. But I've
Speaker 1: made like a vow to myself that I will never
Speaker 1: search my name, just because I know how upsetting that
Speaker 1: could be. And I said this in our last pod
Speaker 1: where we spoke about this. I feel like if I
Speaker 1: was to discover that there was stuff written about me online.
Speaker 1: I'd read it every day, I'd read it every morning,
Speaker 1: i'd read it every night, and I would like get
Speaker 1: upset over people talking about me that way. So that's
Speaker 1: one thing that I've done, and it's been the best
Speaker 1: for my mental health, not knowing what strangers think of me,
Speaker 1: And in a way I find it empowering as well,
Speaker 1: like to not look and know that maybe there is
Speaker 1: people out there talking about me and what I'm doing,
Speaker 1: but like I don't know, So it's like ignorance is bliss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But like to see Indy just coming out and saying,
Speaker 1: I've fucking I'm getting all of you. And I know
Speaker 1: she was saying like most of you were mothers, which
Speaker 1: I'm not fucking surprised by because I can just picture
Speaker 1: like she's like a mom and puts her kids online,
Speaker 1: which I know there's like a lot of conversations around
Speaker 1: that and we've spoken about that before as well, Matt.
Speaker 1: But just sad fucking sacks sitting at home picking on people.
Speaker 1: And again, I really want to stress I'm all for
Speaker 1: someone being called out if they're doing something wrong, if
Speaker 1: they are doing something that's not right, and people are
Speaker 1: bringing attention to it absolutely, But I know INDI's had
Speaker 1: like plastic surgery. People are ripping her to shreds over
Speaker 1: that her body, like all that shit like no.
Speaker 2: Which she didn't even just get a no shop for
Speaker 2: the sake of it. She got it to fix the
Speaker 2: surfboard accident. When the surfboard hitter.
Speaker 1: In the face pops up on my Reddit every now
Speaker 1: and then, like the Aussie TikTok top snuck, and like,
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not in Aussie TikTok snuck, but like
Speaker 1: it shows up on my main feed, so sometimes I
Speaker 1: click and I'm like, oh, what are they fucking saying
Speaker 1: in there today? But I try not to be a
Speaker 1: part of it. But I've seen people like a lot,
Speaker 1: she gets a lot of like feeds pop up, and
Speaker 1: same with for Dan, Like they're the ones that I
Speaker 1: notice the most when I'm scrolling in my feed. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm all for like call someone out when
Speaker 1: they're doing something genuinely wrong and it's worth canceling them over.
Speaker 1: But I think for the most part, all this shit
Speaker 1: that people talk about other influences and creators online, it's
Speaker 1: just nasty it's literally bullying anonymously. Yeah, and I don't
Speaker 1: stand for that. Like, I don't know about all you scrollers,
Speaker 1: but I'm against anonymous bullying online.
Speaker 2: I think as well. I don't know if I mentioned
Speaker 2: this last time we spoke about this or not, but
Speaker 2: I think the most interesting thing is that the and
Speaker 2: I guess obviously it's a female dominated industry anyway. But like,
Speaker 2: I just like, I like I have searched whether I
Speaker 2: have a I'll search right now, all right, Hey, god.
Speaker 1: I could not. I cannot look up myself.
Speaker 2: Tatle life, Like nah, oh, here we go. The first
Speaker 2: thing that comes up in Google is from twenty December
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, so I don't know whether that's the
Speaker 2: most recent time I've ever been mentioned, but it says
Speaker 2: I feel sorry for all right, Hey, he tested negative
Speaker 2: a couple of times before. This is from when I
Speaker 2: had COVID.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're discussing me from I can't look myself up.
Speaker 2: My thing is like I don't have a threat on tattle,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, is it just because like it's women
Speaker 2: tearing down other women and that's what.
Speaker 1: It's sad too. I'm like, hello, like we're all women,
Speaker 1: Like the majority of us are women. Why is everyone
Speaker 1: tearing other women down? I even remember, like you remember
Speaker 1: when I had my really public breakup, Matt, I remember
Speaker 1: like that. I think that was still in the Guru
Speaker 1: Gossip days, and like all my followers were like screenshotting
Speaker 1: me things from in Guru Gossip about me and my breakup,
Speaker 1: and like they were like trying to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know people are saying this.
Speaker 1: And I was just devastated that people were talking about
Speaker 1: me online, saying she can't hold a relationship blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and it just it's devastating to read stuff about yourself.
Speaker 1: And I feel like all these online anonymous trolls, they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but they blah blah blah. But like can you imagine, like.
Speaker 2: Why do they desert?
Speaker 1: But can you imagine reading through a thread of tens
Speaker 1: or hundreds of people just like ripping you to shreds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like those people that participate in that, they wouldn't like
Speaker 1: that if someone was doing that to them. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: why do they feel like they can do it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So, like when I saw Indy saying like she's hired
Speaker 1: a private investigator, My first thought was, is she allowed
Speaker 1: to be posting this, like if it is a private investigation?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was interesting to me. I mean the
Speaker 2: private investigation is done and dusted. Now, course she must
Speaker 2: be come.
Speaker 1: For, she must be able to now like she's probably
Speaker 1: been given the green light. You can talk about it,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, good on a like fucking female empowerment,
Speaker 1: stand up for yourself, like fuck the bullies.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I think it would be interesting to see
Speaker 2: how it plays out at this stage. I am not
Speaker 2: holding my breath with the whole thing. I think we
Speaker 2: have seen similar things happen before. Maybe not to the
Speaker 2: extent of someone getting a sixty four page private investigation done,
Speaker 2: but I feel like I've seen influencers do similar things,
Speaker 2: or say similar things, or just found out who one
Speaker 2: of my biggest online trolls is. I'm going to sit
Speaker 2: but we never hear the end.
Speaker 1: I hope that something actually never.
Speaker 2: Goes anywhere, because she's come out thick and fast. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so now I'm like, well, let's do something with it, babe,
Speaker 2: and actually like prove your point, because otherwise you've just
Speaker 2: kind of fueled the fire.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing too, like, that's the tough thing.
Speaker 1: When people are hating you online anonymously, if you ever
Speaker 1: do mention it, it fuels them even more. They want that,
Speaker 1: they want attention from the person that they're hate.
Speaker 2: Well, they are super fans at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: And I just saw a video from Adele Marie who said,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to call them online trolls. I'm going
Speaker 2: to call them super fans because that's what they are,
Speaker 2: because they know more than anyone most of my followers,
Speaker 2: which isn't that so true?
Speaker 1: They're fans. They're fans as much as they would be Like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just calling them out for all the
Speaker 1: wrong that they do. You're a fan because there's so
Speaker 1: many people online that like, maybe what they post isn't
Speaker 1: my cup of tea. I just follow them like I
Speaker 1: know nothing about them.
Speaker 2: And I think I said in the last time we
Speaker 2: spoke about this, you talking about them or following them
Speaker 2: or watching their things makes them more and only lining
Speaker 2: their pockets more. So. All these people on tattle talking
Speaker 2: about Indy Clinton. Okay, here's the thing, here's what I
Speaker 2: want these people to understand. If you just stopped talking
Speaker 2: about Indy Clinton. That would do more damage to her
Speaker 2: and her career and her finances and her everything than
Speaker 2: talking on Tattle Life. Because here's the thing. Now, the
Speaker 2: chain reaction has started. You talking about her, made her
Speaker 2: get a private investigator, made her now post about getting
Speaker 2: a private investor. She's gone viral through the room. We're
Speaker 2: talking about her on high scrollers. If you hadn't spoken
Speaker 2: on Tattle Life about her, about how she doesn't deserve
Speaker 2: a platform and blah blah blah, we wouldn't be talking
Speaker 2: about her today. So you are making her more relevant.
Speaker 2: And now all of our listeners might not even know
Speaker 2: who Indy Clinton is. They might go and see who
Speaker 2: she is after this, and they might find themselves because
Speaker 2: I fucking love Indie, by the way, one of the
Speaker 2: nicest people in this industry. Like she's up there with
Speaker 2: one of the most gorgeous She's got nothing fucking going
Speaker 2: on up there. She's so funny. She's such an airhead,
Speaker 2: Like she's like, babes, I got no idea what the
Speaker 2: fuck is going on? You know, she's so funny, like
Speaker 2: very much. It's what I say about Sky Wheatley, like
Speaker 2: just wouldn't hurt a fly, but like just does the
Speaker 2: wrong thing because she just doesn't. But you can tell
Speaker 2: when someone does something with intent and when someone just
Speaker 2: does something because they just don't know any better. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I feel like Indy is on the same page
Speaker 2: as like a sky Wheatley, Like Indy's just like there
Speaker 2: for the vibes, and she's like, I've got no idea
Speaker 2: what I'm doing, but I'm just living life. And you know,
Speaker 2: I respect and appreciate that. So I think she's a
Speaker 2: fucking great chick. And you know, I know the scrollers trust.
Speaker 2: Oh my Apple watch is talking to me. But I
Speaker 2: know the Scrollers trust like my word. And who you know,
Speaker 2: we've met absolutely everybody. Have you met Indy?
Speaker 1: No, I've did it.
Speaker 2: Yes, she's she's Central Coast. No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I thought she was.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. We're not to my knowledge,
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but yeah, I can get a
Speaker 2: real good gauge on people real quick, like you going
Speaker 2: and you're the same. We need someone and straight away
Speaker 2: we can see right through. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: we can go they're a good person or they're one
Speaker 2: to look out for, you know. Oh, there's there's been
Speaker 2: a few times in our in our life where you've gone, oh,
Speaker 2: you met this person and I go watch out for them,
Speaker 2: and you go, nah, they're good, they're good, and then
Speaker 2: six months later you go, yeah, you were right on that.
Speaker 4: Have to give people the benefit of the doubt, come
Speaker 4: of course, of course, but yeah, but yeah, I think
Speaker 4: it'll be interesting to see kind of where it goes.
Speaker 2: The thing is, I want to go back to though,
Speaker 2: what they what those people were saying on the thread, saying,
Speaker 2: it can't be defamation if it's not true, And I
Speaker 2: want to bring up my thread and read through some
Speaker 2: of the things that people have been saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, and then the end to end this, I've got
Speaker 1: some other things i want to say. I'm a business
Speaker 1: and career standpoint.
Speaker 2: Okay for sure. Well, I'm going to read through my
Speaker 2: Reddit thread, which, by the way, scrollers. First of all,
Speaker 2: someone has literally written on it. Hang on, I'm going
Speaker 2: to find the comment this thread is going to be
Speaker 2: his royal flush of his week, the royal roller in there, Scroller,
Speaker 2: this thread is going to be the royal flush of
Speaker 2: his voy.
Speaker 1: So someone made a high scroller's thread in Reddit, but
Speaker 1: in like the Aussie TikTok snaff thing and someone posted
Speaker 1: about it in our broadcast channel, so then that's when
Speaker 1: I went and looked it up. But they caught us
Speaker 1: high rollers and I was like, sleigh.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't my royal flush of the week, but
Speaker 2: you know, it does fuel my ego. It's hilarious. I
Speaker 2: love it. So this one, the first one on there,
Speaker 2: is nice. I'm happy for him living his best life.
Speaker 2: He's obviously thriving in the influencer space at the moment,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna give him his flowers. Thanks for that, girl,
Speaker 2: three six wife, so sorry that girl. The thread was
Speaker 2: posted about the thread is posted, it says, all right, hey,
Speaker 2: I love him, but the privilege is unreal, asking how
Speaker 2: long people book their holidays in advance, because he had
Speaker 2: people look at him weird for booking his Europe flights
Speaker 2: two weeks before he flies out. Okay, I actually want
Speaker 2: to talk about this as well.
Speaker 1: Are you going in two weeks?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 1: That's gone quick.
Speaker 2: There's no way you genuinely thought that's what people do.
Speaker 2: People with jobs have to actually book and you'll leave
Speaker 2: ahead of time and don't usually have that kind of money.
Speaker 2: Since flights are generally more expensive the closer you book. Okay, Hannah,
Speaker 2: roll the clip, play the TikTok that I posted so
Speaker 2: haw far in Evans. We all booking our holidays because
Speaker 2: I just had a very eye opening conversation with one
Speaker 2: of my friends. She was like, what do you do today?
Speaker 2: I was like, I went into flight center. I need
Speaker 2: to book some flights in accommodation for a europe trip. She's like,
Speaker 2: don't you leave in three weeks. I was like, it's
Speaker 2: closer to two now, and she's like that is insane,
Speaker 2: Like that's so scary to me that you are leaving
Speaker 2: in two weeks time and you haven't booked half your trip.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, it's fine because I booked half
Speaker 2: of it today, so clearly it's all good. We're gonna
Speaker 2: get there and it's all gonna work out. And she's like,
Speaker 2: i'd need twelve months at least, like six months at
Speaker 2: the bare minimum, six months out everything needs to be booked.
Speaker 2: And I'm like six months. That's scary to me because
Speaker 2: I could be in a different financial position, different circumstances
Speaker 2: in my life. I could have a new job, I
Speaker 2: could be doing something else with my life. I might
Speaker 2: not even want to go anymore. A war could break out,
Speaker 2: the world could be completely different. If I'm going with
Speaker 2: a friend, we might not be friends anymore. Like there's
Speaker 2: so much risk with booking so far in evans in
Speaker 2: my mind, But I'm interested because she made me feel
Speaker 2: like the crazy person. But to me, I'm like, it's
Speaker 2: crazy to book so far in advance. So what is
Speaker 2: everyone doing? So I posted that TikTok a couple days ago,
Speaker 2: and that's what sparked this thread. They're calling me privileged
Speaker 2: because I can book the flights so close out. I'm
Speaker 2: going to circle back to that and make sure I
Speaker 2: do circle back to that because the fact that this
Speaker 2: has happened is hilarious. Anyway, I want to read through
Speaker 2: some of these things. This comment here says comment removed
Speaker 2: by moderator. I've got no idea what they said. But
Speaker 2: then the moderator has written back saying what you have
Speaker 2: posted was posted without any proof or evidence it actually
Speaker 2: exists or occurred. Please repost with proof. So I think
Speaker 2: that's kind of good this reddit thread. You can't just
Speaker 2: like say whatever, Willy really And then I wonder if that's.
Speaker 1: A manual thinger if they have like something that detects.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure. I think it would be a
Speaker 2: manual thing, if I'm honest, because it doesn't say because
Speaker 2: there's a mod up here that is automatic, and okay,
Speaker 2: that's called auto moderator, but this one isn't. There's a
Speaker 2: few people agreeing with me saying they do the same thing,
Speaker 2: and then I want to get to these comments. Sorry,
Speaker 2: here we go. Haven't liked him since he commented on
Speaker 2: another TikTokers video where she was defending herself voting for
Speaker 2: one nation, and apparently I commented on it saying, don't
Speaker 2: worry about the comments, babe, it's your choice, which is
Speaker 2: again not what happened. So these people go, you know,
Speaker 2: you can't defamation because it's the truth. It's the truth.
Speaker 2: That's a flat out lie. It is based on a
Speaker 2: true story. I will say. So, I saw a TikTok
Speaker 2: around the election time and this girl said she voted
Speaker 2: one Greens, two Labor, three one nation, blah blah and
Speaker 2: so on and so forth. Now, if we remember back
Speaker 2: to the election, they were like Greens and Labor and
Speaker 2: then everyone else was like right wing. So people were
Speaker 2: kind of like concerned about, like who am I putting her?
Speaker 2: And she put one nation and the comments were fucking harrowing.
Speaker 2: Now I looked at this girl's profile. First of all,
Speaker 2: it said follow back, so she was one of my followers.
Speaker 2: Second of all, she had about four hundred followers, so
Speaker 2: she's not on social media. This videos popping off, and
Speaker 2: she used to get hated on Left, right and sounder.
Speaker 2: The comments were vile that she'd put one nation so
Speaker 2: far up the ballot. But I jumped in the comments saying,
Speaker 2: don't worry about the comments, babe, you did the.
Speaker 1: Right thing because she put labor, because she.
Speaker 2: Put greens, then labor, then whoever.
Speaker 1: We were kind of like, what are we supposed to do?
Speaker 2: And all these other people like one nation so high,
Speaker 2: like what the hell? In fact, I don't even think
Speaker 2: it was actually one nation. I think it was actually
Speaker 2: one of the other parties, like Christian Conservative Party or something.
Speaker 2: It was one of the other niche ones that still
Speaker 2: have like the right wing ideologies or whatever and policies.
Speaker 2: So I was just trying to say to her, she's
Speaker 2: one of my followers. I want her to see my
Speaker 2: comment and feel better because this comment's going off and
Speaker 2: I don't want her.
Speaker 1: To grind in a hole.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing, and this is a first
Speaker 2: video to like pop up. She got four hundred followers
Speaker 2: and everyone's just been like everyone was really really, really horrible.
Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm just going to reassure her
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. And so that's not actually what
Speaker 2: I said at all, but I think with context, it
Speaker 2: totally changes what you've said. Then this other person said,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is so funny. I genuinely don't
Speaker 2: understand where his money comes from. Meye the babe, someone said, I, oh,
Speaker 2: this one, this one's a good one. I used to
Speaker 2: love him. But the fact that he followed and the
Speaker 2: fact that he followed Kylie on in her recent tour,
Speaker 2: here we go. When he said he was going to
Speaker 2: Coachella because it's an influencer event, When the fuck did
Speaker 2: I ever say that? Bitch? When the fuck did I
Speaker 2: ever say I was going to Coachella because it's an
Speaker 2: influenza event.
Speaker 1: Never once in my life that people will like take
Speaker 1: what you say.
Speaker 2: Change it came, run with it. And this is the thing,
Speaker 2: like again, bordering on if you're if what you say
Speaker 2: in these threads then other people jump in and it
Speaker 2: influences other people or changes their opinion and damages my brand.
Speaker 2: That is defamation. And because you have lied as well,
Speaker 2: like you're lying so never once said that we actually
Speaker 2: went week on two, so it wasn't an influencer influences.
Speaker 2: And then it says he also didn't know any of
Speaker 2: the music artists at Coachella. Babe, you're fucking delusional, Like
Speaker 2: the whole reason we went to America was to see
Speaker 2: Lady Gaga at Coachella. Someone actually replied here saying the
Speaker 2: day the lineup came out, he made a response to
Speaker 2: Sofa Dofa about how excited he was, which I forgot about.
Speaker 2: I'm literally Sofa Dofa made a video being like what
Speaker 2: the hell is the Coachella lineup? And I did a
Speaker 2: stitch to it and was like, babe, leave the tickets
Speaker 2: for me. It's a gay millennial's dream. We've got Green Day,
Speaker 2: Lady Gaga, Charlie, you know, blah blah, and someone else
Speaker 2: is stuck up for me there as well. Do we
Speaker 2: have any more?
Speaker 1: I love that the scroll is it in the fucking
Speaker 1: chat m and it.
Speaker 2: Says don't get me started. Every video he was doing
Speaker 2: flogging his greape protein water. I don't think I flogged
Speaker 2: it that hard, Like it's sold out so quickly, you.
Speaker 1: Would, to your fucking dickhead, Well that's right, you would too.
Speaker 1: I hate people that are like, oh, he's flogging his
Speaker 1: great protein. Yeah, and you would as well. If you
Speaker 1: collaborated with a brand and came out with a special
Speaker 1: product with your name on it and your face on it,
Speaker 1: and you were making money off it, you would fucking
Speaker 1: do the same. You imbecile, You fucking loser.
Speaker 2: And I mean, I know that was like three or
Speaker 2: four days of launch for that, but like, fucking give
Speaker 2: it a rest. How many other people have you've seen
Speaker 2: over the last ten years flogged their product that they've
Speaker 2: done with a brand.
Speaker 1: I flogged Fade every day.
Speaker 5: I actually remember sitting there going I remember sitting there going, Wow,
Speaker 5: thank god, I don't have to promo this as much
Speaker 5: as I thought, because it's actually gone gangbusters and I
Speaker 5: didn't need to like harp on about it too much.
Speaker 1: I couldn't along with these people this point sopathetic. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry everyone out there. If you participate in this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, I think you're an absolute loser.
Speaker 2: Well, I want to say thank you to everyone though,
Speaker 2: who has stuck up to me on that thread. So
Speaker 2: there must be a lot of scrollers in there, and
Speaker 2: please feel free to go and either talk shit or
Speaker 2: give me my flowers. As that first person said, very
Speaker 2: much appreciate. You can all jump in there and say
Speaker 2: how much you love me, or you can jump in
Speaker 2: there and bitch about me, because I actually I think
Speaker 2: if there's one person you want to do it too.
Speaker 1: Actually, no, you don't want to encourage people.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I was gonna say, I there's one person
Speaker 2: you want to do it to, it's me because I
Speaker 2: can take a joke. But I think that's the opposite
Speaker 2: of what they want, Like they want people to be
Speaker 2: hurt by it. Yeah, it's like just like got a
Speaker 2: thick skin, baby. The thing is, I can't. I can't
Speaker 2: worry about words online. I just can't do it anymore because.
Speaker 1: I think the difference is, like, let's look at Indie
Speaker 1: for example, it's to the extreme like there's yeah, so
Speaker 1: much of it happening. There's only so much. We can
Speaker 1: take one little thread of you with a few comments. Sure,
Speaker 1: but then in her instance, it must be in the
Speaker 1: hundreds or thousands or you know, I.
Speaker 2: Still don't reckon it would affect me that way. I
Speaker 2: just like, like I get spat on in the street,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, like genuinely spat on on the way
Speaker 2: to the Wicked premiere. I was spat on by someone
Speaker 2: someone pretended to like, like came up in my face
Speaker 2: and pretended to hit me. Like I'm dealing with real
Speaker 2: life stuff. So like, genuinely, all of you could say
Speaker 2: the most horrendous things about me online.
Speaker 1: Like you care for what you wish?
Speaker 2: No, but no, but you know how You're like, that
Speaker 2: would affect your mental health a lot if I was
Speaker 2: reading it. But me, I could read the most vile
Speaker 2: things about me, it would not affect my mental health
Speaker 2: because as a queer person, I literally am more worried
Speaker 2: about face to face conflict getting through life. I can't
Speaker 2: hold my boyfriend's hand in public, blah blah blah without
Speaker 2: the fear of getting literally hate crimed. So like for me,
Speaker 2: I'm like, anyone can say anything online and I will
Speaker 2: just laugh about it and I will say. What I
Speaker 2: will say is, if you're gonna bitch about me, can
Speaker 2: you at least tell the truth, Because I've just on
Speaker 2: that thread, everything that people have said negatively about me,
Speaker 2: because there's some positives, there's some negatives. All of that
Speaker 2: negative stuff is a flat out lie. I've just debunked
Speaker 2: all of it, Like, if you've gonna bitch about me,
Speaker 2: tell the truth. I also think it's hilarious because the
Speaker 2: whole reason that thread started was the booking flights video,
Speaker 2: right which we played the audio for you earlier. The
Speaker 2: most hilarious part about all of this is fabricated once again,
Speaker 2: like if you actually knew my content, you'd know that.
Speaker 1: Was you're just like having a bit of a lie.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. There was actually a whole plan
Speaker 2: behind the whole thing because I had to on Friday
Speaker 2: post two sponsored tiktoks on TikTok on the same day,
Speaker 2: which in the eleven years of doing this has never happened.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that ever happened to you when
Speaker 2: you did sponsored things, but it's unheard of.
Speaker 1: Like you you don't do that usually, you don't.
Speaker 2: Have too want to post on the same day, and
Speaker 2: you say to the two brands, oh, someone else is
Speaker 2: already posting that day, and they both go, don't worry
Speaker 2: about it, post it anyway, Like, yeah, that's bizarre. Right now,
Speaker 2: the algorithm hates the sponsored post, it's probably not going
Speaker 2: to perform well. And it also then like makes your
Speaker 2: can sometimes make your profile like your next video your
Speaker 2: post might not do any well either. So to get
Speaker 2: ahead of that, like while I'll often do if I
Speaker 2: have to post something that I'm like, oh, you know
Speaker 2: the algorithm's not loving me? Is you do something that's
Speaker 2: going to get you a lot of comments? Right? Because
Speaker 2: comments is like the way to boost get on the
Speaker 2: full you page blah blah blah, Like you want people
Speaker 2: to comment, how do you do that? You make a
Speaker 2: video that's going to encourage comments. So my thing was
Speaker 2: I made that video knowing full well. I was like,
Speaker 2: the first thing I say is how far in advance
Speaker 2: are we all booking our holidays now? No matter if
Speaker 2: you've even never booked a holiday before, You've got an
Speaker 2: answer to that. Yeah, so you're already hooked in. I
Speaker 2: shook the camera, I tapped the bloody desk as well.
Speaker 2: You know, there's all the things to make you engaged, right,
Speaker 2: And we're living in a world, as we spoke about
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, as well, we're living in a
Speaker 2: world where everyone online wants to be heard, wants to
Speaker 2: share their opinion, you know, has to be right, and
Speaker 2: if you're wrong, they'll tell you. So how am I
Speaker 2: going to get comments? I'm going to go against the
Speaker 2: majority of people. And I'm not dumb. I know that
Speaker 2: the majority of people are not booking their holiday two
Speaker 2: weeks out. I'm not even booking my holiday two weeks out.
Speaker 2: This holiday was booked well in advance. There's been planned
Speaker 2: for two and a half years, women saving for two years.
Speaker 2: So I'm not even one of those people who booked
Speaker 2: two weeks out. Grange and I did have to go
Speaker 2: into flight center and actually do a couple of trains things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: little last minute things, little trains and whatnot. But the
Speaker 2: thing is I made that and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: if eighty percent, let's say, of the people are going
Speaker 2: to be those people booking six to twelve months out,
Speaker 2: clearly I'm going to say what they're doing is wrong.
Speaker 2: Because we're living in an era of the Internet where
Speaker 2: everyone has to share their opinion and if you've got
Speaker 2: a wrong opinion, they will tell you what happened. Literally,
Speaker 2: within six minutes, there was one hundred comments telling me
Speaker 2: I was wrong, and I sat back and I went,
Speaker 2: here we blah, do you go? And then the two
Speaker 2: sponsored videos because that obviously got me in the on
Speaker 2: the for you page, and you know, the two sponsored
Speaker 2: videos performed amazingly because and then you know what's hilarious
Speaker 2: is then that Reddit thread popped up, and I noticed
Speaker 2: that they got almost a second wind, because then people
Speaker 2: were coming over from there. Obviously they've gone, we need
Speaker 2: to see we need to go and see what he's
Speaker 2: talking about. But they've watched mys sponsored videos first, and
Speaker 2: I was like, you could, like, you've done the hard
Speaker 2: work for me. You couldn't make this shit up. And
Speaker 2: I sat there and I went, this is fucking brilliant.
Speaker 2: And I actually wanted to make like a video about
Speaker 2: this and put it online because it worked so well,
Speaker 2: but I thought, no, ill save it for the scrollers
Speaker 2: because it is still our inside joke, you know, the
Speaker 2: guacamole video, the La Boo Boo video, it's still our
Speaker 2: it's our inside joke here with the scrollers. So I
Speaker 2: just feel like whoever made that thread clearly isn't listening
Speaker 2: to high scrollers because they don't know that the engagement bait,
Speaker 2: the rage bait is it's part of the brand at
Speaker 2: this point, it bloody is speaking of branding you wanted
Speaker 2: to finish on.
Speaker 1: Well, we've been talking forever, so I feel like this
Speaker 1: whole episode is literally just our royal flushes. But just
Speaker 1: off the back of this, Like you, I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see where this is going to go. Like you said,
Speaker 1: we've seen influences in the past, kind of hint that
Speaker 1: they know who their biggest fans are. Okay, their trolls,
Speaker 1: but I mean, I think she's being serious. I don't
Speaker 1: think she's fucking around by saying I've got like a
Speaker 1: private investigator and whatever. I think that's a great thing.
Speaker 1: I think anonymous trolling and bullying isn't on. I'm all
Speaker 1: for everyone having their opinion on people. I'm all for
Speaker 1: people being called out when they're doing wrong.
Speaker 2: But if we ever do anything wrong, call us half
Speaker 2: exactly right.
Speaker 1: But the anonymous like just bitching about little things, stalking
Speaker 1: people and like, call it what you want, but like
Speaker 1: if you're actively following someone's every move on every story,
Speaker 1: every real blah blah blah blah blah, everything they say,
Speaker 1: that's fucking.
Speaker 2: Stalking to like super fan behavior.
Speaker 1: It is and I'm interested to see if like anything
Speaker 1: comes of this or if court cases come of this,
Speaker 1: because I think these people that have been like harassing
Speaker 1: and stalking Indie would never think that this would ever
Speaker 1: turn into anything. And I think people need to be
Speaker 1: really careful participating in this kind of behavior too, because
Speaker 1: if she has found out who these people are, and
Speaker 1: she knows who they are, and if they're going to
Speaker 1: get in trouble for what they've said online, you're putting
Speaker 1: your career at risk. If these people work in careers,
Speaker 1: you will get fucking sacked from your workplace, Like if
Speaker 1: you get caught up in some big thing and it's televised,
Speaker 1: and like you know, like I don't know if it
Speaker 1: will be televised, but if it turns into something like
Speaker 1: you're putting your career on the line, yeah, because I
Speaker 1: don't think any workplace is going to want to be
Speaker 1: involved with someone that has been defaming someone online.
Speaker 2: And above that as well, just imagine the perception from
Speaker 2: the people.
Speaker 1: Around you, your friends and family finding out that.
Speaker 2: That's a mortified how fucking embarrassing.
Speaker 1: I know, Like that's like you got to think when
Speaker 1: you do this shit, like it feels anonymous, but like
Speaker 1: I've known that this day would come, and like we
Speaker 1: haven't really spoke much about Tattle, but you can go
Speaker 1: look it up if you want. Essentially, Tattle is like
Speaker 1: the Guru gossip. It's like an anonymous platform. The guy
Speaker 1: that owns it has been brought to light. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: like we haven't got to that, but you can go
Speaker 1: look it up for yourself. It's all over TikTok. That's
Speaker 1: where I saw it last night, which.
Speaker 2: The guy who owns it was brought to light but by.
Speaker 1: A couple that have been trolled on there.
Speaker 2: But he actually went under a female name, yes, and
Speaker 2: also then was under another name as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, multiple fake aliases.
Speaker 2: And they've discovered all of it.
Speaker 1: So he is now gonna get sued by people whose
Speaker 1: lives have been destroyed from these anonymous platforms. So that's
Speaker 1: a whole other part of this. It just so happened
Speaker 1: that Indy Clinton and this all happened at the same time,
Speaker 1: and I'm fucking here for it. Like I think faceless
Speaker 1: anonymous accounts that just pick on people, it's it should
Speaker 1: be a thing of the past. Honestly, Like we're living
Speaker 1: in a world where everyone's prioritizing mental health, and we're
Speaker 1: having more conversations around mental health. But then people are
Speaker 1: doing this. Yeah, like you're literally doing the opposite of
Speaker 1: what we should all be doing.
Speaker 2: Oh but like, isn't that a reflection of the fucking world. Yes,
Speaker 2: everybody does one thing and then says another, you know, hypocrite.
Speaker 2: And I'm the same, babe. Like, I'm the same. I
Speaker 2: say one thing, do another. We all do it, but
Speaker 2: some of us are more extreme than I.
Speaker 1: I just be careful and I'm interested to see what
Speaker 1: happens from it, and just be fucking careful when you're
Speaker 1: anonymously bullying online. I mean, don't do it at all.
Speaker 1: That's my advice.
Speaker 2: Be fucking careful, I say, shut up.
Speaker 1: Oh me too, But like, fuck, if this actually turns
Speaker 1: into court cases, you're all going to become known to
Speaker 1: the public if it's public, and then you've fucked up
Speaker 1: your whole fucking life all because you didn't like Indy
Speaker 1: Clinton's nose. Yeah, imagine.
Speaker 2: And I just, at the end of the day, the
Speaker 2: only thing I feel for these people pity. That's the
Speaker 2: first thing I actually. I think that's another big thing
Speaker 2: is I don't get angry when I read those comments
Speaker 2: about me.
Speaker 1: On that it's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: I go, I actually go, fuck, what's going on in
Speaker 2: their life?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not let me tell you that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but like, genuinely like, you must be miserable.
Speaker 2: You must be some sort of sorry, that's my coffee
Speaker 2: machine going off in the background, but you must be
Speaker 2: some sort of fucking miserable. You must hate your life,
Speaker 2: hate your job. I don't know if you've got no friends.
Speaker 2: I don't know, if your friends hate you, leave you
Speaker 2: out of group activities. I don't know if you've got
Speaker 2: family members who hate you. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: just hate everyone else because you hate yourself. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can never tell. But that's where my mind goes.
Speaker 2: I don't actually get upset and go, oh my god,
Speaker 2: people are saying bad things about me. I go, fuck,
Speaker 2: I hope this person actually just like goes to the
Speaker 2: therapy because shit. Imagine imagine, imagine imagine writing in a
Speaker 2: Reddit thread, imagine being on Tattle life. Imagine like, I
Speaker 2: just in my brain, I can't even fathom living that lifestyle.
Speaker 2: I go, what a fucking what a fucking life to live?
Speaker 2: It is just bizarre to me, and again, like at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, I'm also in the mind of, like, dude,
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck you want, I couldn't give a shit,
Speaker 2: but it's bizarre. It is, it's fucking bizarre.
Speaker 1: So that's my royal flush. Keen to see what happens.
Speaker 1: Keen to see the guy that owns Tattle get taken
Speaker 1: down because that's definitely going to court and look out people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully we can uh hopefully the Indy Clinton thing
Speaker 2: goes somewhere, because that'll be quite entertaining.
Speaker 1: Actually, well, Matte, that's another episode done in dusted and
Speaker 1: we didn't even get beyond our royal flushes. So I
Speaker 1: feel like whatever we were going to say next, we're
Speaker 1: going to have to save it for close friends. And
Speaker 1: we need to talk about Katie Perry too.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to Katie Perry a week ago.
Speaker 2: Let's do that in close fra okay aout that anyway, scoller,
Speaker 2: thank you for listening. I hope you found today insightful.
Speaker 2: If not, couldn't give a ship go and complain about
Speaker 2: it on rate it honestly, Raiders postars, I don't know
Speaker 2: what else to say. What else do we do? All
Speaker 2: the things? Yes, most importantly, thanks for listening. We're coming
Speaker 2: up to our two year high Scroller anniversary. By the way,
Speaker 2: should we do anything special, I don't know. We'll have
Speaker 2: well left. Also, just a reminder to join our broadcast
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Speaker 2: fun because we are using it a lot more lately.
Speaker 2: It's popping off. Brittany just usually just sends photos of
Speaker 2: our fucking Mango lassies every day, but you know that
Speaker 2: we continue the conversation over there. Anyway, Dale, I better
Speaker 2: let you go, you know what. Sorry before I say that, though,
Speaker 2: what someone messaged the other day. Actually a few people
Speaker 2: have messaged over the past few weeks saying that they've
Speaker 2: started guessing exactly what I'm going to say. That's fun,
Speaker 2: Well it is, no, but they've gotten it right. They're like,
Speaker 2: I've never got it right. And now over the last.
Speaker 1: Like fourth to be a bit more unpredictable.
Speaker 2: Yes, So that's what I'm saying. So from now on
Speaker 2: I'm going to really rein it in again.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to try so.
Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone would have would have guessed this,
Speaker 2: but let's go for it. Anyway, Dale, I better let
Speaker 2: you go. I've got to go get eaten by a
Speaker 2: crocodile and put into a meat pie in Larama.