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Speaker 1: From the newsroom and news still come to the.

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Speaker 2: Good Day There. I'm Andrew Bucklow, and you're about to

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Speaker 2: hear part two of news dot com. Do they use

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Speaker 2: interview with Grant Harold. Now, he's a former butler who

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Speaker 2: worked for the royal family from two thousand and four

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Speaker 2: to twenty and eleven. Boy does he have some crazy stories.

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Speaker 2: In this episode he will reveal what Prince Harry and

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Speaker 2: Prince William were really like behind closed doors and shares

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Speaker 2: a wild story about the late Prince Philip.

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Speaker 1: Queen and said, don't fuck that's allber and the Queens

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Speaker 1: looked him with this big grin and then kN a

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Speaker 1: looptate and smur and give a weave.

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Speaker 2: Grant Harold has a book out today called The Royal Butler,

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Speaker 2: My Remarkable Life of Royal Service. Here he is speaking

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Speaker 2: to news dot Com dott to use Royal reporter Bronte Coy.

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Speaker 3: In terms of that shift of public perception, no one

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Speaker 3: has had a bigger shift than Harry, literally based on

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Speaker 3: popularity polls, particularly here in the UK. So you met

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Speaker 3: him though when he was the cheeky, beloved younger prince.

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Speaker 3: You know, people absolutely adored him, So he would have

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Speaker 3: been in these late teens, I believe what was And then,

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Speaker 3: of course, you know, grew up while you were there.

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Speaker 3: What was your impression of that, Harry, And how did

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Speaker 3: that evolve?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Fun, silly, comical, great fun, didn't take life too seriously,

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh. Respected his father beyond belief, got on well

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Speaker 1: with his stepmother, was best, best, best poles of his brother,

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Speaker 1: the best friend of Catherine of Kate. Was always upbeat, fun, joky.

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Speaker 1: As I said, with depression and mental health, I'm fully

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Speaker 1: aware that people can put on an amazing cover. I

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Speaker 1: know that's from fast hand experience. But again, was always

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Speaker 1: the soul of the party.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like you guys had fun together because you

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Speaker 3: were quite young too. So what's what's your best memory

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Speaker 3: of your time with Harry?

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Speaker 4: I mean, with Harry, there's a lot of fun memories.

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Speaker 4: There really is.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you again, I'm quoting from the book,

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Speaker 1: but let me give you two really nice stories of

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Speaker 1: Harry to give you, to give you a bit of

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Speaker 1: a personality. So the first time I met Harry, I

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Speaker 1: was in the kitchen at High Grove talking to a wonderful,

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Speaker 1: wonderful lady and I was with her and we're in

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Speaker 1: the kitchen Chian and then suddenly this water bloom got

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Speaker 1: He had other balloons, and so I ran through this

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Speaker 1: you know, a ladder, I think is what you call them.

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Speaker 1: And I ran in there, closing to lock the door,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know this kind of size, and luckily,

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Speaker 1: Then I managed to get out this like a champagne

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Speaker 1: cop and when I climbed it, I shouted back through

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Speaker 1: and I shouted saying, get me now if you can,

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Speaker 1: me again. That was my first impression.

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Speaker 5: You first dight work?

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Speaker 1: He said, yeah, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 4: My first date.

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Speaker 1: But no firstly working, but my first day of meeting Harry.

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Speaker 1: That was the impression of Harry. And I remember thinking, God,

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Speaker 1: just so silly, I mean, so much fun. And William

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Speaker 1: it was very I should also mention I didn't quite

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Speaker 1: know what to call William because Harry made it very

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Speaker 1: clear he was just going to be a Harry. But

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Speaker 1: all that, I remember it kind of saying to William

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Speaker 4: Or if you like, can introduction with.

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Speaker 1: Hardy it's these water balloons, you know, so did you

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Speaker 1: It's his father. When I met his father, Han chicks

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Speaker 3: And well, you know, as I mentioned, there is that

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Speaker 3: Wales is the jewel in the crown so to speak.

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Speaker 5: Sorry mind the pun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right now.

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Speaker 3: Of course you would have met her back then when

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Speaker 3: she was really coming into her own She just sort

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Speaker 3: of started dating William throughout that time and then now

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Speaker 5: But what about what about that young.

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Speaker 3: Woman that you met back then? What was your impression

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Speaker 3: of her? What's your best memory of your time with

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Speaker 3: around Kate?

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Speaker 1: So when I I met Kate, I remember I was

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Speaker 1: It was one's friend. It wasn't girlfriend, it was Wye's friend.

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Speaker 1: And she was lovely. She was very softly spoken, beautiful smell,

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Speaker 1: She would come into the kitchen and the pantries and

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Speaker 1: She was ever so funny. I remember once again sitting

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Speaker 1: as you do. It's so funny when I think about

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Speaker 1: the story about Princess Danna sitting in the kitchen worktops

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Speaker 1: chatting away. Where they were sitting in the kitchen worktops

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Speaker 1: and we were talking about getting older. And I said

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Speaker 4: For that, and and it was it was great.

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Speaker 1: So you could see stuff, you know, even something which

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Speaker 5: Especially around that time.

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Speaker 3: We used to see William, Kate, Harry sort of hanging

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Speaker 3: out and it looked like they were all really good friends.

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Speaker 3: Harry later said that he felt left out a lot

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, it was always around when Kate.

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Speaker 1: In fact, they were and Chelsea Davis remember because she

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Speaker 1: was arraigned as well, so they were very much. You

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Speaker 1: spent a lot of time together, hung out together, went

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Speaker 4: The local pub.

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Speaker 5: Usual, they just popped to the local pub.

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Speaker 4: High grows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just asked logistically because I can't I just

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Speaker 1: They always used to go to the local pubs. Everyone

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Speaker 1: it was back then. So you wouldn't have people take

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Speaker 4: It was extramely actually, don't wrong.

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Speaker 1: There would be a bodyguard, a security detective and stuff around,

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Speaker 2: Hey stick around in just a moment, Grant, he's going

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Speaker 2: to tell a cracking story about Prince Philip's reaction to

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Speaker 2: Harry and Meghan's wedding. Welcome back. You are listening to

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Speaker 2: news dot com dot I use Brontecoy interviewing Grant Harold,

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Speaker 2: a butler who worked for the Royals from two thousand

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Speaker 2: and four to twenty eleven.

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Speaker 3: You were in a prime location for Harry and Meghan's

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Speaker 3: wedding in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 5: What's your standout memory from that day?

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Speaker 1: This has been picked up quite a lot. Actually it

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Speaker 1: was quite a funny memory. So I on HAIDI mate.

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Speaker 1: I'd left at this point and I was in mated

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Speaker 1: as a guest to the wedding. Not only was it

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Speaker 1: as a guest, I was also one with the media.

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Speaker 1: I was doing ray commentary for all the different networks

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Speaker 1: across the world, including obviously the UK networks. When the

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Speaker 1: wedding was on, the media coverage from my point of

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Speaker 1: one memory that that stuck in our minds was Prince

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Speaker 1: Philip walked out with the Queen. They was to the

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Speaker 1: then I don't know how to word this because obviously

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Speaker 1: I don't upset any in the listeners of you.

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Speaker 5: You can use exactly the word and it's absolutely fine.

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Speaker 4: Whatever he came, he.

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Speaker 1: Came out into the Queen and said, thank funk, that's over,

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Speaker 1: and the Queen just looked him with this big grin

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Speaker 1: a wave. And we were kind of thinking, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you hear something, you think, ah, did we hear that?

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Speaker 4: Did we hear that? Right? And it was very funny.

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Speaker 4: It was very funny.

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Speaker 5: And Prince Philip from how we have sort of heard

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Speaker 1: That's the whole point. That's exactly what he was like.

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Speaker 4: So it could have been to do that.

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Speaker 1: But it was just typical Prince Philip, which we all

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Speaker 4: You know, he was very.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: So we'll finish up with some quick questions. So I'm

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Speaker 3: just tell me that, you know, just briefly, whichever whatever

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Speaker 1: I want to say the Queen because she used to

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Speaker 4: You're so cool.

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Speaker 3: I love that. I loved the queen was your auntswer.

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Speaker 3: I thought you might have said Harry, but that slid

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Speaker 4: That was the Queen. The Queen was the fun one.

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Speaker 5: Who was the most fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow wow, Artistaid women, Harry joint They were fun together.

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Speaker 4: Were they were fun together.

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Speaker 3: It's really nice to hear that, especially with how we

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Speaker 1: The most, Jamela? And the reason I say that is

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Speaker 3: And what's your best memory from your seven years working

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Speaker 3: And that's going to be my very last question, just

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Speaker 4: I did that.

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Speaker 1: There's a whole entire story behind it. But can I

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Speaker 1: add to it? There's an extraordinary twist at the end. Now,

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Speaker 1: what I'd say is, yes, I got to done with it.

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Speaker 1: you then question, I think that maybe manifestation fate, your

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Speaker 1: prayers do come true.

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Speaker 3: Oh Grant, what an absolutely perfect note to leave that

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Speaker 3: on and intriguing enough that I am certain that everyone

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Speaker 3: is going to buy this book.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for your insights.

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Speaker 3: As I've mentioned your memoir The Royal Butler, My Remarkable

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Speaker 3: Life of Royal Service. It's coming out very soon. Everyone

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Speaker 3: should pick up a copy because this guy is clearly

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Speaker 3: loaded with great stories.

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Speaker 5: So thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, happy reading.

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Speaker 2: That book is actually out today. Okay, what a fun

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Speaker 2: chat there with Grant Harold. I wonder what Prince Philip

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Speaker 2: would have thought about interview.

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Speaker 4: Thank fuck, that's over, Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 2: So much for listening to you.

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