WEBVTT - Outsiders | 1 September

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<v Speaker 1>Lord, this is Outsiders.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, and welcome to Outsiders, the show that is

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<v Speaker 2>to woke, virtue signaling and identity politics on steroids. What

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Is to diagnosing a brand new disease. They suffer from

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<v Speaker 1>a thing called TDS. Do you know what that is? Yes? TDS.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a horrible, horrible terminal disease. It destroys the mind.

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<v Speaker 2>It destroys the mind before the body, but the body

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<v Speaker 2>eventually goes TDS is Trump derangement syndrome.

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<v Speaker 3>He's so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, James will propose a cure for that particular disease

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<v Speaker 5>later in the program. Meanwhile, what about the Kamala Harris debate?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, of course, the one where she is debating herself.

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<v Speaker 6>Everyday.

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<v Speaker 7>Prices are too high, food, rent, gas, back to school clothes, that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is calmed bidonomics.

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<v Speaker 7>A look, bread cost fifty percent more today, brown beef

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<v Speaker 7>is up almost fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 6>There is not much left at.

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<v Speaker 1>The end of the month.

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<v Speaker 3>Bidonomics is working.

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<v Speaker 7>The price of housing has gone up. It feels so

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<v Speaker 7>hard to just be able to get ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>And we are very proud of Bidenomics.

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<v Speaker 8>Meanwhile, after the abysmal CNN interview, everyone's wondering how Kamala

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<v Speaker 8>Harris will behave if she does get to debate Trump.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I think we already know. Here's Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 8>debating the very gentlemanly Mike Pence back in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 7>Mister Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking, mister Vice President.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm speaking, I'm speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>The important is the roof vice president speaking. I'm speaking.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, if you don't mind letting me finish, we can

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<v Speaker 7>then have a conversation. Okay, please, okay, answer now?

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<v Speaker 8>Do people deserve a straight answer?

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<v Speaker 7>I will not sit here and be lectured by the

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<v Speaker 7>Vice president. I'm speaking. Yeah, I'm about to I will

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<v Speaker 7>not be lectured by the vice president.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, man explaining the lowest trick in the female politician's book.

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<v Speaker 2>Just wait for Kamala Harrison to go full Gillard.

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<v Speaker 1>You should never go full Gillard.

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<v Speaker 2>And now let's grab the latest outside of his news. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Reacher and James, we've been throwing money around willy nilly.

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<v Speaker 1>The Albanizy government often.

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<v Speaker 2>How I get the impression Albo thinks the money is

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<v Speaker 2>all his reta. We've got two hundred million, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred million, we've got gold mines of the being

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<v Speaker 2>shut down.

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<v Speaker 1>What on earth is going on with this government. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>want to.

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<v Speaker 5>Start with Victoria, the just into Alan government, so that's

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<v Speaker 5>the alban easy government on steroids as you like that.

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<v Speaker 6>We can't afford.

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<v Speaker 5>The Commonwealth Games that we are proudly celebrated winning nobody

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<v Speaker 5>else wanted. But now apparently we're going to pay for

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<v Speaker 5>Scotland to hold the games. The Victorian taxpayers already propping

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<v Speaker 5>up the state, which is the biggest debt of any

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<v Speaker 5>state in the country, are going to be paying two

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<v Speaker 5>hundred million, which the Scottish Authority say will cover the

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<v Speaker 5>whole cost of the games.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how These games.

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<v Speaker 5>In Victoria were going to cost six to seven billion,

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<v Speaker 5>which made them unaffordable.

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<v Speaker 3>Initially we thought there was going to be around two

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<v Speaker 3>and a.

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<v Speaker 5>Half billion, But Scotland will hold them for two hundred

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<v Speaker 5>million because Victorian taxpayers will be yes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's because Scotland doesn't have a CFMEU.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why.

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<v Speaker 8>That's why they.

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<v Speaker 1>Can do it for a lot these games.

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<v Speaker 8>As somebody, as somebody of Scottish ancestry, partial Scottish ancestry,

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<v Speaker 8>I love the fact that Scotland has lived up to

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<v Speaker 8>its reputation for being good with money, shall we say,

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<v Speaker 8>and she just like a deal out of Victoria on this,

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<v Speaker 8>But I mean it is it's so funny too, because

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<v Speaker 8>we talked about last week of Victoria it's going to

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<v Speaker 8>pay now to have what is the diversity games, the

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<v Speaker 8>gay Games or whatever game?

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<v Speaker 5>Well when now we're in the final ten for those,

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<v Speaker 5>but we've these games that we're no longer holding have

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<v Speaker 5>already cost the state hundreds of millions, around four hundred

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<v Speaker 5>million in compensation having to be paid because that we

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<v Speaker 5>promised to hold the games that we then failed to.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just embarrassing, you know what, at the end of

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<v Speaker 5>the day, as a Victorian, as a proud Victorian, it

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<v Speaker 5>is embarrassing to see what the state has been reduced

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<v Speaker 5>to to being mocked nationally. Now internationally they're probably laughing

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<v Speaker 5>at us that we're paying for their games and we

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<v Speaker 5>need choice.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the bottom line, Victoria. We don't have choice.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got a LIB opposition which is utterlygutless, without principle,

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<v Speaker 5>without policy, just a labor light product that nobody wants.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we've got these.

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<v Speaker 5>Hard left socialist ideologues who have bankrupted the state. So

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<v Speaker 5>the people really have no choice where we're left with uh.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, you can see such a contrast too

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<v Speaker 8>when you look at what you've got in the Dan

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<v Speaker 8>Andrews government or nothing. Sorry the end's just an our

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<v Speaker 8>government now former Dan Edge any mistake to make. But

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<v Speaker 8>you look at the contrast between that and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>New South Wales, which is run by a competent labor government,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, Chrispin's I would say it's probably the most

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<v Speaker 8>competent premier you've got anywhere in the country. Sydney is gleaming.

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<v Speaker 8>There's infrastructure that the Libs started that labor has finished.

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<v Speaker 8>They've got all sorts of projects.

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<v Speaker 1>That actually mount to Victoria, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>And then you go down to Melbourne and the CBD

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<v Speaker 8>is shabby, it's run down. People aren't going to work anymore.

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<v Speaker 8>It's just such a chalk and cheese comparison between these

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<v Speaker 8>two cities.

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<v Speaker 5>And the way they are punishing anyone who contributes in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you pay payroll tax, if you employ people,

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to be paying more land tax. They've just

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<v Speaker 5>got a few sources of income that they keep going

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<v Speaker 5>to and they're just bleeding people. And it used to

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<v Speaker 5>be certain demographics would lead Victoria because it got too tough.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you've got people on the other end of the

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<v Speaker 5>spectrum who are financially secure and have got wealth. They're

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<v Speaker 5>leaving the state in droves because the taxes are just

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<v Speaker 5>absolutely killing them. Why do that in Victoria when you

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<v Speaker 5>can move to New South Wales or Queensland and have

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<v Speaker 5>a completely different.

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<v Speaker 3>Business model.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't have to be completely bled by an inept

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<v Speaker 5>government that has got itself in the set.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, but the real problem is then that is the

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<v Speaker 2>federal government and New South Wales might be lucky at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment with the men's government. It's a labor government,

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<v Speaker 2>and the federal labor government is so bad. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they are stumbling from one disaster to the next. Talk

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<v Speaker 2>about throwing money around. The thing about Albo, he seems

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<v Speaker 2>to treat all this money like it's his own money

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<v Speaker 2>and it's there for to make him look good.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the absurdity of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Four hundred million dollars being handed out of the Pacific

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<v Speaker 2>Island Forum for Policing in the Pacific. Now James and

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<v Speaker 2>will debate this in the second but the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>you have to remember here is that the taxpayer is

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<v Speaker 2>paying four hundred million dollars to set up police forces

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<v Speaker 2>in the Pacific Island when we're struggling to have enough

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<v Speaker 2>police forces, particularly.

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<v Speaker 1>In rural and out back Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>But the other thing is that the controversy as such

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<v Speaker 2>was around the fact that Albo was caught kind of joking.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, it was offensive that the guy was joking about,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh to the Americans, Oh, you could have chucked in halves,

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<v Speaker 2>you could have gone as Harvey's on two hundred million.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, these vast sums of money and being having

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<v Speaker 2>people in our leaders treating them as just some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of pocket change that they can throw out. I find

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<v Speaker 2>deeply offensive because it's our taxes that pay for all

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<v Speaker 2>is But James, let's just first play the hot mic controversies.

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<v Speaker 2>So Albanize was caught talking to the American representative at

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<v Speaker 2>the Pacific Island Forum joking about the four hundred million

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<v Speaker 2>the Australia's paying, and it appears that the references to

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Rudd having said to the Americans, don't worry, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to contribute to this, or you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to make the announcement. We want this to be

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<v Speaker 2>a big Australian announcement so that it would appear Olbow

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<v Speaker 2>gets all the cutos.

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<v Speaker 1>Something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's have a listen to the hot mic incident

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<v Speaker 2>and then James will pick up from there.

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<v Speaker 9>We're making our way through the Pacific, you know.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, we had a cracker today getting the Pacific Policing

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<v Speaker 10>indus hip because.

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<v Speaker 9>This is a fantastic it's a script and I talked

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<v Speaker 9>with Kevin about it, and so we were going to

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<v Speaker 9>do something in BS.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not to assuming he did nothing, giving you vain

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<v Speaker 1>the cost field.

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<v Speaker 8>Come on, lady, now, the real story here behind that

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<v Speaker 8>hot mic is that is that later on, after that

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<v Speaker 8>got played and publicized around the country, Albanizy got completely

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<v Speaker 8>snippy and lost it with the press corps that was

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<v Speaker 8>traveling with him, you know, saying how dare you catch

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<v Speaker 8>me on a hot bike and how dare you publicize that?

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<v Speaker 8>And I think that's a simbol of how just utterly

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<v Speaker 8>snippy he's become about the press and how defensive he

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<v Speaker 8>now is. But on the issue though Rowan of the

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<v Speaker 8>spending money on this Pacific Island Police Force I actually

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<v Speaker 8>don't have a huge problem with spending money in general

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<v Speaker 8>principle on that, because the fact of the matter is

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<v Speaker 8>if we don't go in there with aid and with

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<v Speaker 8>help policing and so we've seen many countries you know,

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<v Speaker 8>who's come in and done that and set up their

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<v Speaker 8>own police forces on these islands, China, and that's not

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<v Speaker 8>what we want. That is bad for Australia our security. Sure,

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<v Speaker 8>it would have been great if we could have done

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<v Speaker 8>the deal better with America to get them to kick

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<v Speaker 8>in some of that money. Fine, I don't have a

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<v Speaker 8>problem with criticizing them for that, But the idea of

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<v Speaker 8>spending money to set up regional policing in the Pacific,

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<v Speaker 8>I don't have a.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, China extracts something for that largest they're not just

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<v Speaker 5>doing it out of the goodness. I'm not sure Australia

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<v Speaker 5>is getting that same value. So that taxpayers are going

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<v Speaker 5>to be money going to be spent there in the

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<v Speaker 5>order of four hundred million dollars, we're not talking about

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<v Speaker 5>in significant sum.

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<v Speaker 3>There needs to be some sort of return.

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<v Speaker 5>There needs to be an understanding whether it's helping us

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<v Speaker 5>in the region, whether it's provided providing us with favorable

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<v Speaker 5>trade agreements, whatever it is. We need to see some

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<v Speaker 5>value out of this beyond just being a good.

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<v Speaker 8>And global citizen. It's not about being a good global city.

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<v Speaker 8>It's about stopping China. Yeah, China, that's the most important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But the reality is that the same Pacific Island

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<v Speaker 2>Forum you had the Chinese change the wording to exclude

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<v Speaker 2>Taiwan towards the end, so that so it is working yet, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it might work further down the train.

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<v Speaker 8>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>We must be doing whatever we can to prevent, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Chess moves to prevent China from really taking over

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<v Speaker 2>these islands, and I'm not sure four hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>of taxpayers money is necessarily the best way to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>If it helps, fantastic, But the reality is China's marching

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<v Speaker 2>through there. We need to be strong diplomatically as well

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<v Speaker 2>and have a navy, maybe a navy that we have

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<v Speaker 2>which would be a good idea for Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>And we need to learn from the four years of the.

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<v Speaker 5>Trump administration about how they handle China, because again there's

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<v Speaker 5>a story that one of the ways they managed to

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<v Speaker 5>isolate Iran, the Iranian regime was they went to China

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<v Speaker 5>and said, if you're buying from Iran, if you're buying

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<v Speaker 5>oil or whatever, we're going to impose sanctions or tariff.

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<v Speaker 5>Well here's another and guess what happened. They abided by that.

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<v Speaker 5>I know we're not an economic superpower like the US,

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<v Speaker 5>but we've still got things we can be doing.

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<v Speaker 8>You know what we can do, what we can do,

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<v Speaker 8>you know what we can do here. If you want

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<v Speaker 8>to talk about being smart and boxing smart with China,

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<v Speaker 8>let's talk about how the whole green transition that Chris

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<v Speaker 8>Bowen is pushing absolutely is going to wind up increasing

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<v Speaker 8>our our total dependence on China. Who builds the wind farms,

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<v Speaker 8>who builds the solar panels, you know, who owns a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of these renewable energy zones, and who is selling

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<v Speaker 8>these electric vehicles, these electric vehicles that they are forcing

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<v Speaker 8>us into through the taxes on petrol vehicles, and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>emitters and even hybrids of China, China, And so look

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<v Speaker 8>at what other countries are doing. Even Canada, I think,

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<v Speaker 8>is talking about doing put through a one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 8>tariff odd Chinese. Trump is talking about this is what

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<v Speaker 8>we did about and get rid of the green new

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<v Speaker 8>deal stuff here which is winding up making US board

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<v Speaker 8>dependent on China for our energy.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've also forgotten to mention that, of course, once

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<v Speaker 2>all these renewables infrastructure is in place across this nation,

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<v Speaker 2>who can turn it off at the flick of a

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<v Speaker 2>statue The people who built it China, And there's no

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<v Speaker 2>question about that. So you're right that we should need

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<v Speaker 2>to be blocking China. I'm not sure four hundred million

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<v Speaker 2>taxtaile pairs dollars to Tonguan and tu Vaalu and police

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<v Speaker 2>officers necessarily the best use of our money. But we

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<v Speaker 2>agree to disagree on that. Let's talk about the census.

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<v Speaker 2>So the census again, the Almanizi government. It is clear

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<v Speaker 2>to me, Rita and James that this mob are floundering.

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<v Speaker 1>They're tripping all over each other.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a clown show, as I'll be going through

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<v Speaker 2>later on in the show. But you can tell when

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<v Speaker 2>a government is really on the nose, when when the

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<v Speaker 2>errors compound and they seem to trip over one mistake

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<v Speaker 2>to another. And they've certainly seen this on the census.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen it on the gold mine, and we should

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<v Speaker 2>chat about that as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Rita, well, this is an unforced error, again, completely self inflicted,

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<v Speaker 5>much like the her mass visa fuel a much smaller

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<v Speaker 5>scale of an issue. I would say, but why why

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<v Speaker 5>take this position then do a backflip make it? Well,

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<v Speaker 5>first they were going to withdraw the question about lgbtach do.

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<v Speaker 1>You identify as whatever? Whatever?

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<v Speaker 6>That's it, And I.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually thought that was a fair enough move because I

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<v Speaker 5>think you can't really trust those results. Now with the

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<v Speaker 5>amount of coverage and politicization that has come into this issue,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to get people who are just going to

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<v Speaker 5>tick that as a political exactly more so than actually

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<v Speaker 5>how they live their life.

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<v Speaker 3>And also that umbrella has become so.

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<v Speaker 8>Wide interesting if you broke it up between the LGB

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<v Speaker 8>and the tv I what they did.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why the.

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<v Speaker 5>Tay or the non binary that the other letters was

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<v Speaker 5>a very tiny amount, and you're thinking, we're having so

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<v Speaker 5>much debate and so much policy about such a tiny,

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<v Speaker 5>teeny tiny portion of people.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's done a backflip. There was a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>an uproar from activists as.

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<v Speaker 5>He is given in in record time, as Albow does

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<v Speaker 5>as they always do.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know what's funny about that is he just

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<v Speaker 8>sort of you know, swung and punched himself in the

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<v Speaker 8>face on this one. Yeah, you know, like like there

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<v Speaker 8>was you know, this had simply not they said, simply

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<v Speaker 8>not been an issue for anybody and had just been

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<v Speaker 8>sort of sitting out there. And then apparently ALBERTIZI got

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<v Speaker 8>so terrified that the Conservatives were going to come after

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<v Speaker 8>about it, this thing that's going to be not asked

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<v Speaker 8>for another two years, so until the next term of government,

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<v Speaker 8>they shut it out.

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<v Speaker 2>The good news is my prediction is absolutely solid Albanezi

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<v Speaker 2>will not be the prime minister when that census is running.

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<v Speaker 2>You heard it here, guaranteed. Now, let's talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee it, I guarantee it, Rita. You can play

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<v Speaker 1>this click back to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Paul Barry will be sticking it in his

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<v Speaker 2>little file.

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<v Speaker 1>Pull there, you guy, mate.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about Tanya Libsi read to mention it the

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<v Speaker 2>mindiness guy who says no to a gold mine. What

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<v Speaker 2>responsible minister of a federal government says, oh no, no, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't have the gold mine there. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've done this.

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<v Speaker 2>They've fallen all over themselves again with this Oh we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't mean to we did mean to.

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<v Speaker 1>You reckon James and Albanize he's kicking.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, here's a really interesting thing. I under it, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>Tardya Pleibersek had Kai Bosch this mind. We've talked about this,

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<v Speaker 8>We had the interview with Roy RC last week, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and ALBERTIZI had been perfectly happy to let her go

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<v Speaker 8>out there and twist on this because of course she's

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<v Speaker 8>considered a rival to him in the party room, and

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<v Speaker 8>so he was happy to see her coup a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of damage over this, and she had because she screwed

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<v Speaker 8>this up immensely with what she did to this mine.

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<v Speaker 8>But here's the interesting thing. Now, after he said the

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<v Speaker 8>other day, I'd be happy to see this mine go ahead,

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<v Speaker 8>seemingly leaving clear resk out there twisting in the wind,

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<v Speaker 8>correspondence has now been revealed and Simon Benson had this

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<v Speaker 8>in The Australian yesterday this weekend. That three months ago,

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<v Speaker 8>when it looked like this decision was going to come

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<v Speaker 8>handed down, the owners of the Mind, Regius Resources, wrote

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<v Speaker 8>directly to the Prime Minister requesting an urgent phone call

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<v Speaker 8>or an urgent meeting about this pending decision, and nothing happened.

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<v Speaker 8>So he knew that this was going to happen a.

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<v Speaker 5>Helian dollar project in on it billion dollar project. New

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<v Speaker 5>South Wales government never saved around two hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 5>in taxes and royalties that would have been for.

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<v Speaker 1>The Scottish Games.

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<v Speaker 5>Been a bigger guy, around eight hundred well paid created

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<v Speaker 5>in that area.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, which desperately needs it too.

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<v Speaker 3>Desperately needs it.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got the local Aboriginal Land Council on board, Premier

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<v Speaker 5>Chris Means, I think has been.

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<v Speaker 8>This is also opened up. You know, there was at

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<v Speaker 8>the Daily Telegraph Bush Summit, which happened to be in Orange,

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<v Speaker 8>they actually interviewed a cardboard cutout of Toddy Pleurosek over it,

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<v Speaker 8>which was pretty funny. But here's the thing though, this

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<v Speaker 8>opens up completely the charge that and it's correct. I

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<v Speaker 8>think that the green left environmental movement, which is very

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<v Speaker 8>prominent in labor is all run out of the cities,

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<v Speaker 8>and the cities are happy to over and over again

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<v Speaker 8>screw the regions over their renewables obsessions, their anti mining obsessions.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, you can't have a gold mine, but you

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<v Speaker 8>will have your land carpeted with solar panels and with

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<v Speaker 8>wind farms. You just got to have to lump it.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know the regions I think are really sick

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<v Speaker 8>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Where Geina Ryn had made the point at the Bush Summit,

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<v Speaker 2>only twenty percent of the major resources projects now get through.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the great Australian economy has built on

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<v Speaker 2>resource projects. Now, thanks to labor and the Greens and

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<v Speaker 2>the Red Tape and the Green tape and the Black tape,

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<v Speaker 2>only twenty percent of getting through.

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<v Speaker 1>We're destroying this country.

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<v Speaker 2>We're destroying the wealth and prosperity of this country for

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<v Speaker 2>future generations, and the lunatic sitting in Canberra are doing

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<v Speaker 2>it deliberately.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's only one.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing worse than a hard left Australian government, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>a hard hard left British government and the brig government

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<v Speaker 2>of Kirs Starmer. They lost me a while ago, but

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<v Speaker 2>now it is war. I'm sorry. Matt Goodwin joins us now,

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<v Speaker 2>Professor Matt Goodwin from the UK. It was funny, but

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<v Speaker 2>now it is deadly serious, Matt Goodwin. Keir Starmer has

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<v Speaker 2>removed the portrait of Maggie Thatcher from ten Downing Street

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<v Speaker 2>and I will not.

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<v Speaker 1>Stand for it, Matt's I will not stand for it.

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<v Speaker 1>How I amte. Yeah, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, obviously this is one of the stories that's captured

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<v Speaker 11>the head lives I think you know for many people

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<v Speaker 11>here in the UK. Actually this is a symbol of

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<v Speaker 11>something a little bit darker. This is a guy who's

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<v Speaker 11>just become Prime Minister. He's a noow sweeping crackdowns on

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<v Speaker 11>free speech and free expression. Since taking control of Number

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<v Speaker 11>ten Downing Street, he's continued to lose control over the

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<v Speaker 11>borders and this week he gave a remarkably depressing speech

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<v Speaker 11>about how he sees Britain a very gloomy, apocalyptic view

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<v Speaker 11>of the country. Taxes are going to have to go up,

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<v Speaker 11>spending on public services is going to have to go down.

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<v Speaker 11>And here's the interesting thing. He didn't say anything at

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<v Speaker 11>all about what voters say is the number one issue

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<v Speaker 11>in Britain right now, and that issue is immigration. Keir

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<v Speaker 11>Starmer didn't mention it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's completely out of control there in Britain and

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<v Speaker 2>they obviously have no intention of trying to bring it

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<v Speaker 2>under control. And apparently they're going to ban smoking at pubs.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this correct or banned? It'll be here next to

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<v Speaker 2>pubswander now mate, Nigel Farage is up in arms quite rightly, Matt.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well that's right.

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<v Speaker 11>So what we're going to see is actually the extension

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<v Speaker 11>of some legislation that came in, was tabled by Rishie

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<v Speaker 11>Sunak and the Conservatives to basically phase out tobacco and smoking,

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<v Speaker 11>and Kirs Starmer has taken that a step further in

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<v Speaker 11>saying that now you can't even have a cigarette outside

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<v Speaker 11>the pub with your pint. That is now going to

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<v Speaker 11>be essentially outlawed. And of course for many people, why

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<v Speaker 11>this matters is it's really representing this authoritarian streak within

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<v Speaker 11>the labor government. It likes to talk a lot about tolerance,

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<v Speaker 11>it likes to talk a lot about diversity and liberalism,

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<v Speaker 11>but actually Kirs Starmer's labor government is pretty authoritarian. That's

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<v Speaker 11>what we're learning only a few weeks into its time

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<v Speaker 11>in office. And just briefly, one other thing that we've

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<v Speaker 11>just discovered they're going to bring in is the use

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<v Speaker 11>of so called non hate crime incidents, which are remarkably

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<v Speaker 11>orwellian things where basically you can get a criminal record

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<v Speaker 11>by not actually doing anything illegal. It's just if you

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<v Speaker 11>say something that somebody else perceives to be offensive. So

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<v Speaker 11>this is again. I think the Land of Carter an

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<v Speaker 11>individual liberty going through a difficult moment.

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<v Speaker 5>Rita, Oh it is sinister, and I do wonder whether

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<v Speaker 5>the Brits know how much of the world's looking at

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<v Speaker 5>them right now. And you've got sick Sir Kiirs Starmer

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<v Speaker 5>railing against the far right again and yet I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if you can tell us update us. But last

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<v Speaker 5>I checked, nothing said about the notting Hill Carnival where

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<v Speaker 5>hundreds were arrested, multiple people stabbed, and yet he's still

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<v Speaker 5>focused on those rights that broke out after the tragic

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<v Speaker 5>murder of those three little girls.

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<v Speaker 11>I was very disappointed with Kir Starmer's speech, is I

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<v Speaker 11>think a lot of people were. We should also just no,

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<v Speaker 11>this isn't my opinion. In the leadership ratings in all

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<v Speaker 11>of our national polls, he's down by about thirty points

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<v Speaker 11>since coming into power. I mean, this guy is quickly

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<v Speaker 11>becoming one of the most unpopular prime ministers that we've

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<v Speaker 11>had in a long time. In fact, as I'm talking

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<v Speaker 11>to you, only a couple of hours ago, we had

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<v Speaker 11>a new poll out this evening showing that compared to

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<v Speaker 11>when Labour won the election at the beginning of July,

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<v Speaker 11>Kirstarmer's ratings are down thirty six points, so people really

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<v Speaker 11>haven't called to him at all. He's now minus thirteen,

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<v Speaker 11>which I guess if you don't know what that means,

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<v Speaker 11>he's not too far off what we'd call Prince Harry territory.

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<v Speaker 1>Point.

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<v Speaker 6>They are like, what.

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<v Speaker 11>Was remarkable about the speech this week, you know, is

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<v Speaker 11>he kind of doubled down on what we saw during

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<v Speaker 11>those riots and protests over immigration. He just basically said

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<v Speaker 11>half the country is far right and they're Nazis, and

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not interested in acknowledging what they're concerned about. I'm

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<v Speaker 11>not going to talk about the small boats, which again

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<v Speaker 11>have now passed twenty thousand illegal migrant crossings this year alone.

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<v Speaker 11>That's up three percent on last year. He didn't talk

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<v Speaker 11>about net migration, he didn't talk about criminality. And here

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<v Speaker 11>we are with the Notting Hill Carnival are celebrated by

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<v Speaker 11>labor politicians because it's a symbol of diversity. We've got

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<v Speaker 11>two people dead in the streets, two people who have

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<v Speaker 11>died because of stabbings at that event, physical assaults. It's

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<v Speaker 11>a controversial point, maybe, but more people died at the

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<v Speaker 11>Notting Hill Carnival apparently celebrating diversity than died during the

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<v Speaker 11>immigration protests. Nobody to my knowledge actually died during those protests.

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<v Speaker 11>So again, this notion of two tier Britain, this notion

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<v Speaker 11>of different groups and different events being treated differently according

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<v Speaker 11>to the politics, is really now ringing loudly across the country.

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<v Speaker 8>James, and I mean, just so many bizarre stories coming

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<v Speaker 8>out about the Starmer regime. When I'm using the regime

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<v Speaker 8>regime here deliberately, even the fact that they have removed

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<v Speaker 8>a portrait of Margaret Thatcher from ten Downing Street, this

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<v Speaker 8>sounds absolutely bizarre to me.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, it's no secret that many people on the left

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<v Speaker 11>have a very strong dislike of Margaret Thatcher. Though what

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<v Speaker 11>is interesting is that picture, the portrait was actually put

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<v Speaker 11>up I think I'm right in saying by Gordon Brown,

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<v Speaker 11>the Labor Prime Minister, and of course Gordon Brown invited

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<v Speaker 11>Margaret Thatcher to number ten Downing Street. And I think

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<v Speaker 11>actually what you're seeing is something of a changing of

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<v Speaker 11>the guard on the left, a new more intolerant, authoritarian

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<v Speaker 11>left party than perhaps what it used to be. The

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<v Speaker 11>other story this week that's really annoyed people is a

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<v Speaker 11>Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rainer being seen clubbing in Ibtha,

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<v Speaker 11>which it costs two hundred euros to get into and

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<v Speaker 11>twenty or thirty euros for a drink, while laborer presiding

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<v Speaker 11>over pretty sweeping cuts to pensioner's fuel allowance this winter.

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<v Speaker 11>So that's gone down like a lead balloon as well.

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<v Speaker 11>This is the Labor Party not thinking about the optics.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, Matt, you've got the two you mentioned two

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<v Speaker 2>tier of Britain. Well, this awful story about the MP

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<v Speaker 2>Jess Phillips saying that she got kind of fast stream

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<v Speaker 2>you know, streamlined or fast service or whatever at the

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<v Speaker 2>NHS when the when the Palestinian doctor there at the

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<v Speaker 2>NHS recognized her and said, oh I approved of your

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<v Speaker 2>ceasefire comments in Parliament, so you kind of get you

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<v Speaker 2>get shown the better superior service. That seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>the gist of the debate there or the discussion there.

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<v Speaker 1>How tell us the story this is.

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<v Speaker 11>This, Yeah, this is an outrageous story. And when I

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<v Speaker 11>first read it, to be honest, I didn't believe it

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<v Speaker 11>and I sort of dropped it onto Twitter or x

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<v Speaker 11>and I mean it went viral immediately, because what's so

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<v Speaker 11>important about this story, is it really strikes at the

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<v Speaker 11>cord the core of this notion of a universal healthcare

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<v Speaker 11>system that treats everybody fairly and equally. Actually, what we

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<v Speaker 11>see here as a labor politician openly admitting that she

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<v Speaker 11>was given preferential treatment because of her position with regard

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<v Speaker 11>to the Israel Galza conflict. And this is again an

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<v Speaker 11>example of where public institutions are clearly being politicized to

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<v Speaker 11>some extent. We've had the debate over the police treating

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<v Speaker 11>Black Lives Matter protesters much more positively than the immigration protesters.

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<v Speaker 11>And now we've got the National Health Service the closest,

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<v Speaker 11>of course, we've got to a national religion, some would say,

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<v Speaker 11>being seen to treat labor politicians more favorably. So they

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<v Speaker 11>would make no mistake. There is going to be a

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<v Speaker 11>national investigation into this incident. That particular doctor is I

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<v Speaker 11>would suspect is going to be struck off. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 11>But this is again alarmingly chilling. But we you know,

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<v Speaker 11>nobody really wants to vocalize this in the UK. But

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<v Speaker 11>what we have basically is sectarianism. We have sectarianism along

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<v Speaker 11>racial and religious lines. We've seen it in the recent

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<v Speaker 11>general election, five Muslim politicians elected in predominantly Muslim areas

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<v Speaker 11>against the Labor Party, and now we've got sectarianism. It

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<v Speaker 11>appears in some of our public institutions. We don't want this.

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<v Speaker 11>We're not South Africa with the United Kingdom. We don't

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<v Speaker 11>want any of the tribal allegiances being brought into our

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<v Speaker 11>public institutions.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Matt Goodwin, let's roll on the next British election

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<v Speaker 2>when I want to see Nigel Farage in number ten

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that the first thing he will do

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<v Speaker 2>after he's had the cigarette and the pint outside is

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<v Speaker 2>put that portrait of Maggie Thatcher back up on the

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<v Speaker 2>wall where it belongs. Thank you, Matt Goodwin, always great.

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<v Speaker 1>To chat to you. Coming up, we're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a short break after that Rader's Reality check.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus we're going to speak to the musician yah Ron.

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<v Speaker 1>Hallis about the backlash.

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<v Speaker 2>He's getting for his upcoming event celebrating Lenard Cohen in

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<v Speaker 2>a tich.

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<v Speaker 5>You're watching Outsiders with your host Rowan divisive Dean James,

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<v Speaker 5>dangerous moronum rita patter here. Soon we'll be delving into

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<v Speaker 5>the wacky world of academia. But first, let's take a

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<v Speaker 5>minute and look at how Peter Dutton has succeeded in

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<v Speaker 5>taking strong principal conservative physicians that speak to the Australian electorate.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's got the Albanese government rattled and it shows

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<v Speaker 5>several poor poll results and a drubbing in the anti

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<v Speaker 5>election last weekend has the Labor government lashing out in

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<v Speaker 5>an increasingly nasty fashion. You see, Labor as decided that

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<v Speaker 5>the best way to deal with the serious issues afflicting

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<v Speaker 5>the country, from cost of living crisis to the gars

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<v Speaker 5>of visa feror to suicidely stupid energy policies saddling households

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<v Speaker 5>and businesses with crippling bills, for the best way to

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<v Speaker 5>deal with that is to attack Peter Dutton. It's usually

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<v Speaker 5>opposition leaders who are accused of being overly negative and

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 5>impermanent attack mode, but Labor has flipped the playbook and

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<v Speaker 5>is targeting Dutton as if he's the Prime Minister Treasury.

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<v Speaker 5>Jim Chalmer's attack against Dutton was a particularly shrill that

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<v Speaker 5>happened earlier this week and he launched into this diet tribe.

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<v Speaker 12>Leadership, which is destructive and divisive, is not really leadership

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<v Speaker 12>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And that brings me to Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 6>He is the.

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<v Speaker 5>Most divisive leader of a major political party.

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<v Speaker 6>In Australia's modern history, and not by accident, but by choice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the only plank in his political platform.

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<v Speaker 2>He divides deliberately, almost pathologically, particularly and this is worse

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<v Speaker 2>than disappointing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's dangerous. His device iveness should be to score.

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<v Speaker 5>Poor Peter Dutton dangerous and the most divisive leader in

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<v Speaker 5>modern Australia is not just hyperbole but stinks of desperation

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<v Speaker 5>and delusion. Polls show that despite the consistently harsh treatment

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<v Speaker 5>Dutton receives from the bulk of the mainstream media, he

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<v Speaker 5>is cutting through on consequential issues from the economy to

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<v Speaker 5>national security and also cultural issues. And it's a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit rich for Jim Chalmers or anyone on the left

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<v Speaker 5>to call the Liberal leader divisive when it was Labor

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<v Speaker 5>who tried to enshrine racial division into the Australian constitution.

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<v Speaker 5>Far from being the sensible centrists they claim to be

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<v Speaker 5>before the election, the Other and Easy government has proven

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<v Speaker 5>to be radically left and willing to back reckless, irrational policies.

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<v Speaker 3>But their media mates can always be relied upon to back.

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<v Speaker 5>The cause and excuse the increasingly nasty attacks against Dutton.

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<v Speaker 5>To this take from the ABC's Laura Tingle, she wrote,

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<v Speaker 5>chalmers outburst reflected a growing frustration within the government that

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<v Speaker 5>Dutan is hogging most of the airtime with populist appeals

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<v Speaker 5>to people's concerns about migration and national security which don't

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<v Speaker 5>necessarily make any policy sense. Say what now, the chief

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<v Speaker 5>political correspondent Tingle thinks having a sensible energy and population

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<v Speaker 5>policy and perhaps I don't know, not allowing thousands of

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<v Speaker 5>people into the country who may have sympathies to her

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<v Speaker 5>mass is just a populist appeal that makes no policy sense.

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<v Speaker 5>If the Albanezi government keeps listening to their far left

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<v Speaker 5>media mates, they'll be voted out the next election, but

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<v Speaker 5>not before inflecting enormous damage on the country. And before

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<v Speaker 5>we wrap this up, can we just take a moment

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<v Speaker 5>and marvel at just how putrid, utterly putrid, the US

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<v Speaker 5>media has become. In their desperation to damage Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>They have sunk to Newlow's this week, attacking Trump for

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<v Speaker 5>taking videos and posing for photos with gold Star families

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<v Speaker 5>at Arlington National Cemetery. They in effect attacked grieving families

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<v Speaker 5>here in their attempt to smear Trump. The facts are

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<v Speaker 5>that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were not at Arlington

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<v Speaker 5>National Cemetery to honor the thirteen service members who were

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<v Speaker 5>killed that botched withdrawal from Afghanistan. Biden was at the beach,

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<v Speaker 5>Kamala had no public events and she didn't show up. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>they failed to reach out to these families. But Trump

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<v Speaker 5>has been there and he was there to honor the

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<v Speaker 5>fallen servicemen and women.

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<v Speaker 6>Who sord oh.

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<v Speaker 5>But that saw the media go into full attack mode

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<v Speaker 5>because President Trump post for pictures with the gold Staff

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<v Speaker 5>families and that apparently politicized Arlington National Cemetery, which has,

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, featured in a number of Biden Harris

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<v Speaker 5>videos and campaigns. So let's have a look at a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of the media.

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<v Speaker 13>Meltdown which is being criticized for bringing politics into the

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<v Speaker 13>hollowed ground of Arlington, specifically for video and photographs of

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<v Speaker 13>the former president leanareeth in honor of service members killed

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<v Speaker 13>in Afghanistan and posing with family members among the headstones,

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<v Speaker 13>giving a thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 14>Anniversary of the death of some American service members in

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<v Speaker 14>Afghanistan as part of the evacuation effort there three years ago.

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<v Speaker 14>They're trying to make that a major problem for the

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<v Speaker 14>Biden Harris administration in the context of this campaign. But

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<v Speaker 14>I know a lot of military veterans were very uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 14>with the idea that Trump was there at all, and

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<v Speaker 14>that he even at one point posed for a photograph

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<v Speaker 14>with family members with a big smile and thumbs up

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<v Speaker 14>on their face. Now we should note some of the

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<v Speaker 14>family members were doing the same, but that's their right.

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<v Speaker 14>Donald Trump seemingly very strange that he would do the same.

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<v Speaker 4>So I looked at the same pictures that you're alluding

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<v Speaker 4>to now and describing at Arlington, taken with the pros

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<v Speaker 4>former president, and the thought rolled immediately through my mind

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<v Speaker 4>is nothing sacred?

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<v Speaker 3>Is nothing sacred? Indeed, your contemptible dirt bags.

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<v Speaker 5>Just how much too, Lowa, will you stoop in trying

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<v Speaker 5>to drop up Kamala Harris? The disgusting antics of the

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<v Speaker 5>media what should have been a solemn occasion. So gold

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<v Speaker 5>Star families, grieving families having to.

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<v Speaker 3>Address the issue and correct the record.

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<v Speaker 5>Here is a mother having to defend how she grieved

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<v Speaker 5>for her son Taylor and why the families wanted Trump there.

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<v Speaker 15>Kelly Barnett invited the former president. Her son, Marine staff

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<v Speaker 15>Sergeant Taylor Hoover died at Abby Gate. What would you

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<v Speaker 15>say to people who maybe pro Trump, anti Trump, whatever

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<v Speaker 15>their politics might be, who just feel like that's not

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<v Speaker 15>a place for politicians or for politics.

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<v Speaker 16>I would have to say, are you in my shoes?

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<v Speaker 1>I invited him.

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<v Speaker 16>My son was murdered under the Biden Harris administration.

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<v Speaker 5>I've said it before and I'll say it again. You

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<v Speaker 5>don't hate the leftist media enough. You think you do,

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<v Speaker 5>but trust me, you die.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic. Thank you, Reta.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was a little bit puzzled by your pronunciation there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hyperbole.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh of course, Sorry, sorry, Julia, hyperbole.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now joining us Nan Now, here's a treat for you,

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<v Speaker 2>monsieur band leader. Yeah, Ron Harris now Tallas now, Jaron

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to get you here this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>You're putting on a Leonard Cohen tribute.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a huge fan Leonard Cohen here, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>many Australian outsiders viewers certainly are. You're putting on this

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<v Speaker 2>tribute and you've got some great people, Deborah Conway, who's sensational,

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Abby Dobson, who is fantastic, yourself, your team.

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<v Speaker 1>But you've already had because Deborah.

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<v Speaker 2>Conway is involved, You've already had the usual complaints.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's a Zionist thing. Why have you got zionist on?

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<v Speaker 1>So tell us about it, tell us about.

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<v Speaker 2>The co concert, but also what resistance you've had as

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<v Speaker 2>a Jewish artist.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, we're celebrating Cohen's ninetieth birthday at the State Theater

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<v Speaker 17>and have put together an incredible lineup of some nineteen musicians,

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<v Speaker 17>including also a fifty piece choir, a Mongolian throat singer

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<v Speaker 17>who will also be playing Mongolian hosshair fiddle, a Greek

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<v Speaker 17>bazooki player, a Mexican harpist. So musically speaking, it's a

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<v Speaker 17>very colorful affair. And of course Deborah Conway is headlining

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<v Speaker 17>amongst all the other amazing and.

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<v Speaker 1>Her husband Willie brilliant.

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<v Speaker 17>And the moment that we announced her inclusion it started.

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<v Speaker 17>I started getting the hate mail, people writing going, we

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<v Speaker 17>would have come, we would have booked, but there's no

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<v Speaker 17>way we'll be in the same room as that genocide

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<v Speaker 17>apologists and such things, And it just went from there,

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<v Speaker 17>basically people writing going, are you aware that she's a Zionist?

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<v Speaker 17>You know, as if that's a terrible dirty word, But

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<v Speaker 17>do they know what that means?

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<v Speaker 3>Do they realize? Because it has become a slur.

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<v Speaker 17>Exactly, It's become a slur rather than simply meaning that,

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<v Speaker 17>you know, it's Israel's right to exist, it's about the

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<v Speaker 17>Jewish people having a homeland. It's now become almost akin

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<v Speaker 17>to accusing someone of being a Nazi something like that.

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<v Speaker 17>So it just has been extraordinary, this outpouring of hate.

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<v Speaker 17>And of course it's not restricted to our show. Every

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<v Speaker 17>time she promotes one of her own shows, we see

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<v Speaker 17>it on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Just this pack attack.

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<v Speaker 17>She's been so widely misquoted and taken out of context

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<v Speaker 17>with everything that she said. So it's even got to

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<v Speaker 17>the point where people have suggested that there may be

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<v Speaker 17>demonstrations on the night of the concert because people need

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<v Speaker 17>to voice their utter disgust that we've included somebody that

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<v Speaker 17>they consider full of hate. And I hasten to add

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<v Speaker 17>that we would never have on stage with us a

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<v Speaker 17>musician that hates in their heart. It absolutely is contradicts

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<v Speaker 17>everything about the music that we're making and the Spiritual

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<v Speaker 17>Show and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Else, and of course Lennon Cohen himself famously Jewish, great.

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<v Speaker 1>Talent, one of the great talents.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what is disturbing here is, as you say,

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<v Speaker 2>other people within the arts community. Now we've heard this

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<v Speaker 2>criticizing you and saying, oh, I wouldn't be involved in us.

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<v Speaker 2>We've heard this week of more people within the Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>community saying that's it. I've had enough of funding these

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<v Speaker 2>arts events that are so overtly pro Palestinian. So you

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<v Speaker 2>have people on the stage with a Palestinian flag or

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<v Speaker 2>a kef You are making chance about Palestine, and that

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<v Speaker 2>they seem to accept that, and so quite rightly, you

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<v Speaker 2>have Jewish donors saying, you know, we're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>our money away from that. They should be doing more

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<v Speaker 2>of that. But what I want to see is more

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<v Speaker 2>people sponsoring and coming to shows like yours, where you

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<v Speaker 2>are celebrating a great Jewish talent who is proudly Jewish.

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<v Speaker 1>You're celebrating that. We want more people to go and attend.

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<v Speaker 2>Your show, and also other shows where Jewish artists are

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<v Speaker 2>to the four Zionists, whatever you want to call them,

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<v Speaker 2>but Jewish artists are to the four celebrating Jewish culture

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<v Speaker 2>and Jewish artistic genius.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I would like to say.

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<v Speaker 17>Wonderful. It's never been a scarier time in this country

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<v Speaker 17>to be Jewish and to be out there as somebody

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<v Speaker 17>who's Jewish, so to as you say, to be celebrating

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<v Speaker 17>the legacy of such an extraordinary Jewish you know, the

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<v Speaker 17>great Jewish songwriter and poet of our times in a

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<v Speaker 17>major Sydney theater with the Jewish Choral Society included, and

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<v Speaker 17>several other Jewish artists amongst other artists that may have

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<v Speaker 17>completely different opinions about what's happening in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 17>The point is it's about music uniting everybody. As Cohen

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<v Speaker 17>himself said, love is the only engine of survival, and

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<v Speaker 17>never a truer word was spoken.

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<v Speaker 1>James, well, how much.

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<v Speaker 8>Of this I mean? You know, we talk about these

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<v Speaker 8>people saying a Sadi Zionist, but then now you're speaking

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<v Speaker 8>about Jewish musicians, Jewish arts, Jewish culture, and we all

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<v Speaker 8>know the huge contribution that Jewish life has made to

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<v Speaker 8>the musical world. How much of this really is not antisionism,

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<v Speaker 8>but in fact is at its heart antisemitic hatred.

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<v Speaker 17>That line has become so very blurred. It's it's I

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<v Speaker 17>guess you know, it's the most acceptable kind of woke

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<v Speaker 17>reality now to be able to say, oh, I'm not

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<v Speaker 17>anti Semitic, I'm just anti Zionist. Whereas if there's this

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<v Speaker 17>disproportionate picking on one particular country at the expense of

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<v Speaker 17>all the other horrible human rights violations happening around the

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<v Speaker 17>world and the most terrible situations globally, and Israel has

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<v Speaker 17>picked on almost to the exclusion of any of these

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<v Speaker 17>other countries, then surely it's entering the realm of anti Semitism.

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<v Speaker 8>I've been thinking about it, like if a Chinese, for example,

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<v Speaker 8>billionaire had donated money to an arts organization, they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 8>be pressured to withdraw because of the Chinese government's humans.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, it's always Israel held to a different standard.

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<v Speaker 5>We know that we've had the impact of the doxing

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<v Speaker 5>of hundreds of Jewish creatives and artists. What's been the

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<v Speaker 5>fallout from that, because I know people who had to

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<v Speaker 5>move their businesses, they were worried about their kids', threats

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 5>were made against their children. Has that at least ceased

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<v Speaker 5>or is that hostility ongoing we're just not reporting on

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<v Speaker 5>it in the newspapers.

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<v Speaker 17>Hopefully it's abated somewhat, but you know, it's still a

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<v Speaker 17>very difficult climate to be out there as a Jewish artist.

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<v Speaker 17>I've never defined myself that way. I'm a musician singing

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<v Speaker 17>on stage. If I want to sing havan Aguilla at

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<v Speaker 17>a music festival or a pub, I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 17>I have to say, look, you know, I grew up

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<v Speaker 17>with a song and make excuses for the fact that

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<v Speaker 17>it's something I want to sing. I just want to

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<v Speaker 17>sing it because it's uplifting and exciting and moves any audience,

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<v Speaker 17>irrespective of their background. And I think that's very important

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<v Speaker 17>to be making art. And it just so happens that

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<v Speaker 17>I'm Jewish making art in the postry.

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<v Speaker 2>I think absolutely erin, but I think it goes further

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<v Speaker 2>than that. I think if you look at you know,

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<v Speaker 2>over certainly the last century or so, Jewish talent in music,

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<v Speaker 2>in comedy, in cinema, in writing, in so painting, so

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<v Speaker 2>many areas is to be celebrated in its own right

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<v Speaker 2>because it's right up there the most extraordinary works of

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<v Speaker 2>art in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get disturbed, particularly.

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<v Speaker 2>When I'm thinking of younger people, so teenagers today and

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<v Speaker 2>so on, Jewish kids who might now feel or I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to mention I'm Jewish, or don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>where the star of David or whatever it might be

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<v Speaker 2>that they would have done a year or so ago

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<v Speaker 2>quite proudly. What's your message, because I get nervous that

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<v Speaker 2>these kids are kind of being forgotten and kind of,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, shying away into the shadows, whereas we need

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish kids to be proud and out there and supporting

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<v Speaker 2>their culture and their heritage. What's your message to those

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<v Speaker 2>talented young Jewish kids coming through.

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<v Speaker 17>I feel the need to paraphrase Leonard himself his great

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<v Speaker 17>line that there's a crack in everything and that's how

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<v Speaker 17>the light gets in. And I feel like this is

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<v Speaker 17>what needs to be embraced. We need to be proud

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<v Speaker 17>of who we are, what we are. Some Jewish people

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<v Speaker 17>are extremely supportive of the Israeli government. Some are appalled

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<v Speaker 17>by the Israeli government. There's always going to be diversity

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<v Speaker 17>of thought. But when there is a diversity of thought,

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<v Speaker 17>it needs to be discussed, it needs to be accepted

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<v Speaker 17>rather than vilified. And that is so extremely crucial in

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<v Speaker 17>this incredibly troubling times.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic yarn and the celebration for Leonard Cohen. How can

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<v Speaker 2>people get tickets?

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<v Speaker 17>Jump on the State Theater website, that would be the

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<v Speaker 17>best way to do it and come and celebrate the

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<v Speaker 17>incredible legacy of this amazing poet and musician.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic Yeah, Eron Hallis, thank you so much, Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for how there you go, State Theater After

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<v Speaker 2>the break net zany lefty lunacy, so much more coming

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 2>up here on Outsiders Cagnity. You're watching Outsiders and thank

0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>you so much for watching us every Sunday morning. We

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<v Speaker 2>certainly do appreciate being with you and having you with

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<v Speaker 2>us well. As we've commented on the show before, Australia's

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<v Speaker 2>amazing performance at the paras Olympics. It's a great deal

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<v Speaker 2>to the generosity of mining magnate Gina Reinhart, who since

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve has poured tens of millions of dollars into

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<v Speaker 2>directly sponsoring individual Australian athletes and their coaches and bypassing

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<v Speaker 2>the legions of taxpayer funded sporting bureaucrats, sporting bodies and

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<v Speaker 2>all their bloated boards with their snouts and the taxpayer truff.

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<v Speaker 5>Indeed, Missus Reinhart suggests that that quote, I think we

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<v Speaker 5>should learn from Europe, where countries have decided to cut

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<v Speaker 5>the expenditure of the sports bodies and make better use

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<v Speaker 5>of that funding and directing instead to athletes and coaches.

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<v Speaker 8>And as a result, Usus Ryanhart has clearly been enormously successful.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean that metal tally speaks for itself. Our best

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<v Speaker 8>Olympics ever. So of course, as soon as you can

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<v Speaker 8>say triple bi bike with a backflip elbow jumped into

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:19.800
<v Speaker 8>the fray offering up four hundred and eighty nine million

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<v Speaker 8>dollars of you're in my money.

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<v Speaker 10>The bottom line is I want to set up our

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<v Speaker 10>youngest Australians for success at our own Olympic Games in

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<v Speaker 10>Brisbane in two thousand and thirty two.

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<v Speaker 18>I think the recent announcement by the federal government was

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<v Speaker 18>absolutely amazing. It was a historical investment in high performance sports.

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<v Speaker 18>I'd like to say us do one better than.

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<v Speaker 3>Paris, do better than Paris.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, but what about Missus Reinhart's contribution and commitment.

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<v Speaker 2>Rowing, swimming, artistic swimming and volleyball have all benefited.

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<v Speaker 18>I couldn't be more trash and I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 18>fantastic that we're having to be wanting to invest in

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<v Speaker 18>our high performance programs. But absolutely the biggest contributor to

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<v Speaker 18>the performance in Paris was the Australian taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, I guess that depends on how many millions of

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<v Speaker 2>those taxpayer dollars actually go to helping the athletes and

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 2>their coaches, as missus Ryanhart's money does, or how much

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<v Speaker 2>will be spent on the first class trips and the

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<v Speaker 2>mouth watering meals and the lavish lifestyles of those lucky

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<v Speaker 2>enough to be an Australian Olympians, sporting bureaucrats, net Zaney,

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<v Speaker 2>the insane world of net zero policies. Well, Trump has

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<v Speaker 2>come out against ev mandates.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a listen here.

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<v Speaker 2>We cannot allow the federal government to put mandates on

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<v Speaker 2>the auto industry to build electric vehicles when the consumers

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<v Speaker 2>do not want.

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<v Speaker 5>RITA good news because this is one of the I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know dozens of backflips that Kamala seems to be

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<v Speaker 5>performing at the moment because she's not for mandates, She's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not for any man.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't know how many other areas she

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<v Speaker 5>can do a backflip.

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<v Speaker 3>She now wants the border ball. She's for fracking.

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<v Speaker 5>Suddenly, she's a tough law and order figure suddenly, and

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<v Speaker 5>after what she did in California, James, who is the

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<v Speaker 5>real Kamala?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, we know who the real Kamala is. We know

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<v Speaker 8>and we're actually after the next hour we're going to

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<v Speaker 8>talk about exactly who she is. And we've got a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of evidence about that. But you know, the ev

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<v Speaker 8>thing and what the gentleman was saying there on the

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<v Speaker 8>screen about people not wanting them, you know. Jemma Tagnini

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<v Speaker 8>had a great piece in The Australia this weekend and

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<v Speaker 8>she talked about she is a former and reformed tesla

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<v Speaker 8>owner and she writes this great piece about getting rid

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<v Speaker 8>of her tesla. At how good it felt to get

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<v Speaker 8>rid of this thing, to finally rep it with an

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<v Speaker 8>internal combustion engine automobile, because she spent her entire life

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<v Speaker 8>worrying about rage, trying to charge it, not being able

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<v Speaker 8>to go to visit friends, so of the Highlands of

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<v Speaker 8>New South Wales, or because she was tethered to this tesla.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a great piece that shows exactly what happens when

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<v Speaker 8>people fall for the spin on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, also, we've had you know, reaching our targets.

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<v Speaker 1>We've now got you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, it's now known that we're not going to reach

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<v Speaker 2>any of these targets that Bowen has set. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>pushing the whole of our economy into this net zero

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<v Speaker 2>madness at the same time as we know that, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>the reduction of emissions has flatlined recently over the last

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<v Speaker 2>few years. So where we're completely going down a dead end,

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<v Speaker 2>a cul des academic economic cul de sac, which will

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<v Speaker 2>cost us a fortune and which will never do anything

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<v Speaker 2>that they say it will do. We'll take a short

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<v Speaker 2>break coming back, doctor Gillians Spencer. Lots more happening here

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<v Speaker 2>on Outsiders in a tick. Hello, you're watching Outsiders with

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<v Speaker 2>Rita reconciled with Panahee, James Jabaluga Morrow, and myself Rowan Deane.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of weeks ago, I spoke about.

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<v Speaker 2>The need for us to ditch the welcomes too and

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<v Speaker 2>the acknowledgments of country. As I said, then, these phrases

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<v Speaker 2>have become quasi religious or political ideology rituals repeated mindlessly

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<v Speaker 2>day after day, like the superstitious chantings of some obscure

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<v Speaker 2>cult or other. The endless repetition out of a specific

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<v Speaker 2>context has stripped these mantras, in my opinion, of whatever

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<v Speaker 2>sentimental meaning they may have once had. The absurdity of

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<v Speaker 2>landing in a modern aircraft on a runway built on

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<v Speaker 2>reclaimed land the two hundred years ago would have been

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<v Speaker 2>fifty meters underwater and acknowledging the traditional custodians is, as

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<v Speaker 2>I say, absurd. What's more, if you do treat these

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<v Speaker 2>words as more than just sloganeering, then the.

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<v Speaker 1>Meaning is at actually pretty disturbing.

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<v Speaker 2>As I said two weeks ago, my family have lived

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<v Speaker 2>on this land for five generations. For the better part

0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 2>of two hundred years, my ancestors struggled for this land,

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:13.680
<v Speaker 2>bled and died for this land, and developed this land

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:17.760
<v Speaker 2>to feed, clothe, and shelter themselves and many others, including

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 2>many Indigenous Australians. Yet the clear suggestion of the welcome

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:24.799
<v Speaker 2>to ceremonies is that I and my family are some

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of interlopers. They don't really belong here, which makes

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<v Speaker 2>a mockery of our claim to be a great immigrant country.

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<v Speaker 1>How are new.

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Migrants supposed to feel landing here, and the first thing

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 2>they are told is that they will never really belong here,

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:44.319
<v Speaker 2>they must pay the rent and feel some weird kind

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:48.319
<v Speaker 2>of race based shame or guilt. As I've also said,

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<v Speaker 2>following the resounding defeat of the Voice, the Coalition should

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:56.840
<v Speaker 2>go to the next election committing to remove the Aboriginal

0:52:56.920 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 2>flag and remove welcomes to and remove acknowledgments of country

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:07.880
<v Speaker 2>from all government organizations and bodies other than for special

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:13.600
<v Speaker 2>worthwhile select occasions where we genuinely do celebrate our Aboriginal past,

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 2>and if governments begin the process, hopefully Corporate Australia and

0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 2>other tiers of government will soon follow. Following my comments

0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:24.400
<v Speaker 2>of Fortnadago, I was inundated by people telling me how

0:53:24.440 --> 0:53:28.360
<v Speaker 2>much they agree with me and hadn't dead speak up. Nurses,

0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 2>business people, contractors, everyday Australians from all walks of life,

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 2>including Indigenous Australians, all agreed.

0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Very few disagreed.

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<v Speaker 2>Friend of mine texted me from a quantus lounge that

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<v Speaker 2>displays this map of Australia purporting to show all the

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Aboriginal nations in verl commas or countries, given that Aborigines

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:51.520
<v Speaker 2>did not make maps, and that there are many Aboriginal

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 2>tribes and their descendants who dispute the historical ownership of

0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 2>certain areas, I would be a little suspicious of the

0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 2>actress of this map. Indeed, we saw again this week

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<v Speaker 2>yet another dispute between two competing Aboriginal groups over which

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:10.480
<v Speaker 2>one has the right to perform or not to perform

0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:15.240
<v Speaker 2>one of these ceremonies. It's farcical and its demeaning quite frankly,

0:54:16.160 --> 0:54:19.239
<v Speaker 2>but more importantly, when you are an airline and your

0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 2>job your sole job is transporting goods and people safely

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 2>and accurately from one specific location to another, I don't

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:29.600
<v Speaker 2>really see the wisdom of indulging yourself in this sort

0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:32.839
<v Speaker 2>of nonsense. But self indulge they must certainly do, and

0:54:32.880 --> 0:54:37.920
<v Speaker 2>now even offer up destinations using Aboriginal names. Quite what

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<v Speaker 2>New Australians. Yes, that's the term I prefer to use

0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.879
<v Speaker 2>to describe recent migrants to this country. It's the term

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:47.319
<v Speaker 2>I grew up using, and it's how many of my

0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 2>migrant friends and neighbors back in the seventies describe themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>So political correctness be damned. New Australians must scratch their

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:58.399
<v Speaker 2>heads when trying to figure out where on Earth they

0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:01.800
<v Speaker 2>have landed the country with not one flag with two flags,

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 2>and not one name for every location, but two. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was mightily impressed earlier this week to learn that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not alone from a legal perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>A very brave Melbourne lawyer and Lana Klaris wrote an

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<v Speaker 2>article in The Australian newspaper explaining why she now refuses

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<v Speaker 2>to acknowledge the traditional owners at the Victorian Bar Council meetings.

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<v Speaker 2>As she explained in her article, quote at every meeting,

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<v Speaker 2>the Victorian Bar Council President acknowledges the traditional owners of

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<v Speaker 2>the land on which the meeting is held and pays

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<v Speaker 2>her respects to elders, past, present and emerging. At a

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<v Speaker 2>recent meeting, Lina goes on, I decided to acknowledge all Australians.

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:52.240
<v Speaker 2>I posted the minutes on social media and was promptly

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<v Speaker 2>labeled a racist, a visitor and an introduced species. I

0:55:58.920 --> 0:56:01.759
<v Speaker 2>was publicly condemned, MMed by two of my fellow Bar

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:06.120
<v Speaker 2>councilors and was told by the Indigenous Justice Committee that

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I had brought the Victorian Bar into disrepute. No, Lana,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, you certainly had not. But Lana then

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:19.880
<v Speaker 2>went on to explain her legal reasons for opposing these

0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:23.920
<v Speaker 2>ritualistic mantras, including the term first nations.

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:25.799
<v Speaker 1>And she made the same point that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Made two weeks ago, the difference being I made it

0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:33.400
<v Speaker 2>from an intuitive, personal opinion point of view, but Lana

0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:37.879
<v Speaker 2>makes it from her legal perspective, and that is why

0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:43.680
<v Speaker 2>her intervention is so crucial now. According to Lana quote,

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<v Speaker 2>the term first nations is wrongly used to strengthen the

0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:53.360
<v Speaker 2>claims of the in inverted commas. Sovereignty was never ceded

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:59.319
<v Speaker 2>and always was, always will be movement and to give

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:03.080
<v Speaker 2>some in indigenous people of today who seek to make

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:08.120
<v Speaker 2>treaties with the States of Australia the appearance of some

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:13.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of legal standing end of quote, and that, of

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 2>course is the nub of the whole thing. We either

0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:21.760
<v Speaker 2>have the Australian legal system with its property rights, Westminster

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:24.240
<v Speaker 2>based laws and so on, ought.

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 8>We do not.

0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:29.320
<v Speaker 2>As more and more land is handed over to Aboriginal

0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 2>corporations as tourists spots. Popular tourist spots are closed off

0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 2>beaches and mountains to the public, as left wing governments

0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:44.600
<v Speaker 2>block important revenue raising projects like gold mines and uranium

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 2>mines on purely cultural heritage grounds. It is increasingly important

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:56.440
<v Speaker 2>that Australians wake up to what is at stake every

0:57:56.640 --> 0:58:00.480
<v Speaker 2>single time they pay lip service to this notion of

0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:03.360
<v Speaker 2>implicit Aboriginal sovereignty.

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<v Speaker 1>Lana concludes, quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Acknowledgments of country are not about showing respect. They are

0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:17.800
<v Speaker 2>political statements signaling support for a two tiered system.

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Based on race. They have no place in.

0:58:21.000 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 2>The law, including in our courtrooms, and the average Australian

0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:29.760
<v Speaker 2>instinctively knows this. Now. Lana is correct, and that is

0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:33.360
<v Speaker 2>why over sixty percent of us said no to the

0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Voice for those very same reasons. However, there are those

0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:42.600
<v Speaker 2>who disagree clearly, including the aforementioned President of the Victorian

0:58:42.800 --> 0:58:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Bar Council, Georgina Schoff, who wrote a response to Lana

0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:51.720
<v Speaker 2>in the same newspaper, in which she cited the hugely

0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:57.280
<v Speaker 2>controversial Love versus Commonwealth Law case legal case which bizarrely

0:58:57.440 --> 0:59:02.080
<v Speaker 2>found that Aborigines have quote and a essentially spiritual connection

0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:06.880
<v Speaker 2>with country, and that Aborigines have a responsibility to live

0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:12.680
<v Speaker 2>in the tracts of ancestral spirits thereby whatever that means,

0:59:12.720 --> 0:59:19.000
<v Speaker 2>thereby overturning centuries of racial equality before the law, by

0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:27.200
<v Speaker 2>inventing some kind of genetically based spirituality system. Many constitutional experts,

0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:31.720
<v Speaker 2>including the Great James Allen, have roundly condemned the Love

0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:36.960
<v Speaker 2>versus Commonwealth findings that Shoff used as her reference.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Merrick, the legal correspondent at The Australian, also weighed

0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:46.400
<v Speaker 2>in this week, saying, quote, it's impossible to avoid the

0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:51.960
<v Speaker 2>conclusion that these acknowledgments and the omnipresent welcomes to country

0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:56.760
<v Speaker 2>give effect to the idea that Indigenous people are the

0:59:56.880 --> 1:00:02.320
<v Speaker 2>true sovereigns of this land. Chris Merrit then adds, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is important that quote. Lawyers of all people should

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<v Speaker 2>have known that the doctrines of Aboriginal sovereignty and nationhood

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<v Speaker 2>which underpin these welcomes and acknowledgments have been repeatedly rejected

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<v Speaker 2>by the High Court, and that quote. In nineteen ninety two,

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<v Speaker 2>the Great Native Title case of Marbo number two also

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<v Speaker 2>rejected the notion of Aboriginal sovereignty. Furthermore, according to Justice

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Mason in nineteen ninety three, the Marbo number two

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<v Speaker 2>decision is equally at odds with the notion that there

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<v Speaker 2>resides in the Aboriginal people a limited kind of sovereignty

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<v Speaker 2>end quote.

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<v Speaker 1>My point is twofold. Firstly, if we want acknowledgments.

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<v Speaker 2>Of country or welcomes to country, they should be meaningful

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<v Speaker 2>and relevant. Perhaps we need one day or week a

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<v Speaker 2>year to celebrate our average history properly, do it properly,

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<v Speaker 2>as we do with the ANNs Axel, religious occasions and

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<v Speaker 2>so on. But that's it once a year once, that's enough,

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<v Speaker 2>not every other day.

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<v Speaker 1>Secondly, as they are currently used.

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<v Speaker 2>Both welcomes to and acknowledgments of country are overtly political

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<v Speaker 2>acts that seek to undermine the rule of law and

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<v Speaker 2>the sovereignty of the Commonwealth of Australia, and must be

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<v Speaker 2>resisted peacefully and politely, but resisted nonetheless. And this should

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<v Speaker 2>be the position of the coalition going into the next election.

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<v Speaker 1>Many people agree with me, the vast majority.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Australians I suspect, judging by the number of people

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<v Speaker 2>who have sent me this sum by the Emily James trio.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems even Ossie Country and Western Stars singers have

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<v Speaker 2>had enough. No welcome me to my.

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<v Speaker 8>Welcome a long and that's need a sale of Morning to.

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<v Speaker 7>Tell me I've belong I am.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a great song. You can get it online.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would say to everyday Australians, if it's at

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<v Speaker 2>the local bowling club, or the local council, or wherever

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<v Speaker 2>in the boardroom, politely and respectfully, it is time to

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<v Speaker 2>say no to these political mantras and racist ideologies.

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<v Speaker 1>And to refuse to partake in them.

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<v Speaker 2>More importantly, we need the Coalition to show leadership, to

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<v Speaker 2>step up and say the ubiquitous welcomes to and acknowledgments

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<v Speaker 2>and other such meaningless virtue signaling will end within government

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<v Speaker 2>bodies if the Coalition wins the next election.

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<v Speaker 8>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Gillian Spencer is a senior child and adolescent psychiatrist

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<v Speaker 2>to a stood down from her job at the Queensland

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<v Speaker 2>Children's Hospital in April twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>We can guess why we know where.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going because she had raised concerns about gender

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<v Speaker 2>interventions for children. She remains suspended, not fired, sixteen months later,

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<v Speaker 2>and there hasn't been any finding of wrongdoing made against her,

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<v Speaker 2>no finding wrongdoing whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Jillian has spoken.

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<v Speaker 2>Out on the issue of harms to children from gender interventions.

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<v Speaker 1>She joins us now.

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<v Speaker 2>Jillian, great to see you. You spoke out last Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>at an event. You were very passionate on the topic,

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<v Speaker 2>love to hear a little bit about your personal what

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<v Speaker 2>I just refer to your personal issues and suspension there

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<v Speaker 2>with the children's hospital, but also I was fascinated by

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<v Speaker 2>comments you made about your teenage boys in this new

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<v Speaker 2>era of gender craziness. But Jillian, just us a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about where you are with the suspension, what happened

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<v Speaker 2>and how you ended up there.

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<v Speaker 19>Yes, well, I started raising concerns about gender interventions for

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<v Speaker 19>children back in twenty twenty two. I had meetings with

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<v Speaker 19>my bosses at the hospital and I told them that

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<v Speaker 19>I was worried that we were cheerleading children onto a

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<v Speaker 19>pathway of social transition puberty blockers and cross sex hormones.

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<v Speaker 19>And I told them that the risks I was worried

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<v Speaker 19>about were infertility, lack of sexual function, long term physical

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<v Speaker 19>health consequences and the long term risk of distress with regret.

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<v Speaker 19>And so it's currently going through the Queensland Industrial Relations

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<v Speaker 19>Commission for a decision on whether that information that I

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<v Speaker 19>told the hospital is information about a substantial and specific

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<v Speaker 19>risk to public health and safety or to people with

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<v Speaker 19>a disability, and if it is, then I should be

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<v Speaker 19>found a whistleblower, which means that the hospital would have

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<v Speaker 19>to formally investigate my concerns and I would be protected

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<v Speaker 19>from any retaliatory action. So I'm expecting that judgment to

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<v Speaker 19>come through in the next one to two months.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic, Okay, Rita.

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<v Speaker 5>I have no idea why they would be suspending you,

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<v Speaker 5>because what you've said is precisely.

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<v Speaker 3>What you've been vindicated.

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<v Speaker 5>We've had the CAST report come out, We've had Scandinavian

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<v Speaker 5>countries rethink the entire philosophy here. Same obviously in the

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<v Speaker 5>UK and much of the US is Australian outlier now

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<v Speaker 5>where we're just blindly following the affirmation model and disregarding

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<v Speaker 5>all the evidence that has come to light in recent years.

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<v Speaker 19>But we certainly are, and it's a terrible situation. It's

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<v Speaker 19>particularly hard for parents at the moment because we've all

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<v Speaker 19>realized that our children are being taught this unscientific idea

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<v Speaker 19>that children can be born in the wrong body, using

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<v Speaker 19>bright colors and under the guise of a anti bullying campaign,

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<v Speaker 19>and we all really want a positive social environment for

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<v Speaker 19>our children in the playground, But what we don't want

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<v Speaker 19>are these dangerous gender ideas being taught to our children.

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<v Speaker 19>Because we know that they'll naturally lead on to some

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<v Speaker 19>children developing gender distress, and those children are at risk

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<v Speaker 19>of being given discredited treatments like gender hormones, and the

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<v Speaker 19>gender ideas seem to have unwanted social consequences like women

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<v Speaker 19>and girls not being able to have protected spaces a

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<v Speaker 19>protected sporting category. But what I think is the hardest

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<v Speaker 19>thing is for parents and for people everywhere is to

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<v Speaker 19>know at what point to resist, because it is so

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<v Speaker 19>easy to say that it's kindness to use preferred pronouns,

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<v Speaker 19>but once you're in this situation of being surrounded by

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<v Speaker 19>people who are using preferred pronouns, it's very difficult to

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<v Speaker 19>put in any boundaries that acknowledge that the person isn't

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<v Speaker 19>actually the opposite set. Yes and social question, yeah, great,

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<v Speaker 19>play along is enormous. Yeah, So I think we do

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<v Speaker 19>have to go back to questioning the use of preferred pronouns.

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<v Speaker 8>One James talk about, you know, in schools, what is happening,

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<v Speaker 8>especially when we hear a lot about sort of girls

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<v Speaker 8>into the dysphoria space, but what's also happening with boys

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<v Speaker 8>and how they navigate issues of gender in the classroom,

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<v Speaker 8>in schools, in society Because it seems like there's a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of overlooked consequences for that's becoming, you know, the

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<v Speaker 8>ecosystem in which they swim.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, I think teenage boys are keeping quiet when gender

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<v Speaker 19>ideology has been taught in the classroom. And I never

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<v Speaker 19>would have dreamed that teenage boys wouldn't speak their mind.

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<v Speaker 19>They're much less socially anxious than teenage girls, and they're

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<v Speaker 19>getting these surges of testosterone, so they're often you know,

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<v Speaker 19>jostling for their social position and challenging authority, being irreverent

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<v Speaker 19>and funny, and.

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<v Speaker 20>Those qualities are really.

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<v Speaker 19>Important in group discussions because it means that they're brave

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<v Speaker 19>enough to break the ice and say the unsayable. But

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<v Speaker 19>I don't think discussion is being generally encouraged on the

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<v Speaker 19>topic of gender in the classroom. I think it's being

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<v Speaker 19>taught as if it's just a fact and so. And

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<v Speaker 19>also there's an issue with we're not valuing critical thinking

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<v Speaker 19>and bravery and humor. We seem to be valuing protecting

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<v Speaker 19>people's feelings at all cost. I know it's a balancing act,

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<v Speaker 19>but I think our society will be worse off if

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<v Speaker 19>we don't appreciate teenage boys for being outspoken.

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<v Speaker 2>And Julian you mentioned in your speech last week because

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<v Speaker 2>of the tigle versus giggle case you spoke after that,

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<v Speaker 2>But I was, as I mentioned before, I've really enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>your comments about your own teenage boys and comparing them

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<v Speaker 2>to when you were a teenager and the way boys,

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<v Speaker 2>ossie boys behaved back then, Queensland boys, I guess. And

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<v Speaker 2>you just mentioned humor as being an example, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing that that whole kind kind of ossie alaric and

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<v Speaker 2>mentality is being sacked from teenage boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 6>That's true?

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<v Speaker 19>And I think it's a really hard decision because for parents,

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<v Speaker 19>we've always had the luxury of so far of telling

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<v Speaker 19>our children the truth as we see it and encouraging

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<v Speaker 19>them to.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 19>I've never been in a situation before where I've had

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<v Speaker 19>to decide whether to tell my kids to play along

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<v Speaker 19>with something untrue for the sake of the law. But

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<v Speaker 19>with this tickle versus giggle decision, that appears to be

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<v Speaker 19>the territory that we're in. And I obviously would much

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<v Speaker 19>rather that adults and parents sought this out out rather

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<v Speaker 19>than children having to deal with it. But oh goodness,

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<v Speaker 19>I are on the side of thinking that it's really

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<v Speaker 19>important to tell the truth. And because I've seen children

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<v Speaker 19>being harmed by gender ideology at the hospital, I see

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<v Speaker 19>it's really important to stand up against that. But I

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<v Speaker 19>think we're all in this dilemma of whether to uphold

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<v Speaker 19>the truth or uphold the law.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, And this ideology really is taught to children under

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<v Speaker 5>the guise of well, this is just being inclusive, it's

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<v Speaker 5>being tolerant, it's being supportive of people with the different sexualities.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course it goes beyond that.

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<v Speaker 5>And this where at Purple Day, for example, that high

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<v Speaker 5>schools and perhaps even primary schools participating where it's supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to be just about inclusion, but there's posters up about

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<v Speaker 5>pronouns and all this political ideology is.

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<v Speaker 3>Drilled into the children and if.

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<v Speaker 5>They question it, they're basically told, you're being cruel and

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<v Speaker 5>you're being a bigot. What's your advice to parents about

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<v Speaker 5>how to combat that if you see that happening at

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<v Speaker 5>your child's school.

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<v Speaker 3>What can you do to make it known this isn't okay.

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<v Speaker 19>Oh goodness, it's so difficult to resist this. Yeah, I agree, Rita.

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<v Speaker 19>We've just had wear at Purple day on Friday. So

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<v Speaker 19>yet again, all three of my kids have been given

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<v Speaker 19>another dose of unscientific drivel telling them that they might

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<v Speaker 19>be born in the wrong body and that they can

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<v Speaker 19>it's possible for people to change sex. And yeah, the

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<v Speaker 19>teachers seem to be still very keen on pushing kids

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<v Speaker 19>to use preferred pronouns, even though we've recently just had

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<v Speaker 19>the Cast Review which looked at the global research literature

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<v Speaker 19>and decided that it's much better to keep options open

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<v Speaker 19>for children with gender to stress rather than facilitating a

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<v Speaker 19>full social transition. But the good news is is that

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<v Speaker 19>my child' psochitetrist colleagues are telling me that teenagers are

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<v Speaker 19>coming in in droves to their clinic rooms saying that

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<v Speaker 19>they're sick of this gender issue and that they don't

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<v Speaker 19>care about pronouns anymore. So it's definitely going out of fashion,

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<v Speaker 19>but unfortunately we still have some adults who are really

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<v Speaker 19>invested in pushing gender ideology onto children.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jillian, thanks so much for coming on and you

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<v Speaker 2>will give a lot of hope and positive role model

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<v Speaker 2>there to many Australian parents. I can guarantee you that

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<v Speaker 2>who will be so relieved to hear that you're speaking

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<v Speaker 2>up and you have your expertise behind you to do so.

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<v Speaker 6>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for coming on, and good luck with

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<v Speaker 2>your three teenage boys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a crazy old world out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Gillian Spencer, Thanks so much for coming on Outsiders.

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<v Speaker 2>After the break, James is don give lots more here

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<v Speaker 2>on Outsiders in a tick.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, Hello and welcome back to the program. You're watching

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<v Speaker 8>Outsiders with Rowan defund the Police, Dean and reader No

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<v Speaker 8>human is illegal Panihy and I'm James. My values are

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<v Speaker 8>unchanged Borrow. And we are now forty eight hours into

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<v Speaker 8>the re reinvention of Carmel Harris in the wake of

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<v Speaker 8>what might very well be the only media interview she

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<v Speaker 8>does between now and the November election, a twenty six minute,

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<v Speaker 8>pre recorded, heavily produced and edited sit down with Dana

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<v Speaker 8>Bash of CNN, who came across like a parent trying

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<v Speaker 8>to let their kid win a chess without making it

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<v Speaker 8>look too much like they were trying to let the

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<v Speaker 8>kid win at chess, because the problem that Kamala, the

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<v Speaker 8>Kamala News Network CNN has is that there are so

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<v Speaker 8>many things Harris has said in the past that contradict

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<v Speaker 8>what she's saying now, and even in this forum, this

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<v Speaker 8>had to be dealt with but gently, even if in

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<v Speaker 8>the process it wound up shredding what was left of

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<v Speaker 8>CNN's journalistic integrity. Take the issue of fracking, which Harris

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<v Speaker 8>has in the past promise to ban but now has

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<v Speaker 8>to support because she needs to win Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 16>Do you still want to ban fracking?

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<v Speaker 7>No, And I made that clear on the debate stage

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<v Speaker 7>in twenty twenty that I would not banfracking as vice president,

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<v Speaker 7>I did not banfracking. As president.

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<v Speaker 1>I will not banfracking.

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<v Speaker 16>In twenty nineteen, I believe at a town hall you

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<v Speaker 16>said you were asked, would you commit to implementing a

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<v Speaker 16>federal ban on fracking on your first day in office?

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<v Speaker 16>And you said, there's no question I'm in favor of

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<v Speaker 16>banning fracking.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes.

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<v Speaker 16>So it changed in that campaign in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 7>I may very clear where I stand. We are in

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<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty four and I've not changed that position, nor

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<v Speaker 7>will I going forward.

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<v Speaker 8>So something magically happened between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 8>But let's have a look to see what Harris actually

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<v Speaker 8>said at that townhole in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 7>There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>and starting and starting with what we can do on

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<v Speaker 7>day one around public lands, right, and then there has

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<v Speaker 7>to be legislation. But yes, and this is something I've

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<v Speaker 7>taken on in California. I have a history of working

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<v Speaker 7>on this issue.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh how they cheered in the past. She's also said

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<v Speaker 8>that being an illegal migrant wasn't illegal, and this led

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<v Speaker 8>to yet another non answer.

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<v Speaker 16>You raised your hand when asked whether or not the

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<v Speaker 16>border should be decriminalized.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you still believe that?

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<v Speaker 7>I believe there should be consequence. We have laws that

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<v Speaker 7>have to be followed and enforced that address and deal

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<v Speaker 7>with people who cross our border illegally.

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<v Speaker 8>And then there was this question, a follow up question,

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<v Speaker 8>no less about the economy and what Harris would do

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<v Speaker 8>on day one of a Harris administration.

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<v Speaker 16>You have been vice president for three and a half years.

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<v Speaker 16>The steps that you're talking about, now, why haven't you

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<v Speaker 16>done them already?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, first of all, we had to recover as an economy,

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<v Speaker 7>and we have done that. I'm very proud of the

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<v Speaker 7>work that we have done that has brought inflation down

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<v Speaker 7>to less than three percent.

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<v Speaker 8>Dana Bash of course, let it lie there, but a

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<v Speaker 8>great follow up would have been missus Harris matter vice president.

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<v Speaker 8>To be clear, you were bragging about getting inflation down

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<v Speaker 8>to a point where it is still much higher than

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<v Speaker 8>the one point four percent it was when Trump left office. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 8>contrast this very gentle kid gloves treatment that Dana Bash

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<v Speaker 8>gave Kamala Harris with the way Bash dealt with JD

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<v Speaker 8>Vance a little while ago.

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<v Speaker 16>You guys seem to be struggling a little bit. Kamala

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<v Speaker 16>Harris has been calling the shots ays who There's no

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<v Speaker 16>evidence that Kamala Harris threw him overboard, called you and

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<v Speaker 16>Donald Trump, and that is weird. Sure you're saying Tim

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<v Speaker 16>Walls doesn't have affection for his wife. I don't even

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<v Speaker 16>understand that they have done both. They have both policies

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<v Speaker 16>and they are trying to define it. You have been

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<v Speaker 16>on the campaign trail questioning Tim Walls's military record. Governor

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<v Speaker 16>Walls served twenty four years. He even stayed after he

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<v Speaker 16>could have retarded because of nine to eleven more than

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<v Speaker 16>the country asked of him.

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<v Speaker 8>Note the difference. Of course, Bash let Harris off the

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<v Speaker 8>hook with barely any probing follow ups that got to

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<v Speaker 8>the heart of any issue. Yet when she was sitting

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<v Speaker 8>down with JD. Vance, she was in full attack dog

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<v Speaker 8>mode and even parroting the talking points of the Harris campaign.

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<v Speaker 8>But let's go back to Harris and CNN. Throughout that interview,

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<v Speaker 8>Harris had one the focus group tested line. She wanted

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<v Speaker 8>to make sure everyone heard loud and clear.

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<v Speaker 7>The most important and most significant aspect of my policy

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<v Speaker 7>perspective and decisions is my values have not changed. Let's

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<v Speaker 7>be clear. My values have not changed. That value has

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<v Speaker 7>not changed. My value around what we need to do

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<v Speaker 7>to secure our border, that value has not changed.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, the values have not changed, but what are those values. Well,

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<v Speaker 8>this new ad from the Trump yeh pain, Shed's a

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<v Speaker 8>little light on them.

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<v Speaker 1>My values have non changed. Douce reread meat specifically, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Boston Marathon bomber, they should be able to vote. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should have that conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Abolish ice, Yes, would you ban offshore drilling?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I'm in favor of banning frack. I am prepared

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<v Speaker 7>to pass a greater deal, and I support a mandatory

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<v Speaker 7>buyback program. We're not going to treat people who are

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<v Speaker 7>undocumented cross the borders criminals. The idea that more police

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<v Speaker 7>equals more safety.

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<v Speaker 6>That's just wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Policing, as we know, goes all the way back to

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<v Speaker 2>slave patrols and that idea. And you are absolutely right,

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<v Speaker 2>where do you stand on defund the police?

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<v Speaker 7>We need to take a look at these budgets.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ban plastic straws?

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<v Speaker 3>And we'sh a seventy to eighty percent tax rate.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Chipping now to the Minnesota Freedom Funds. How dare we

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<v Speaker 3>speak Merry Christmas?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I am radical.

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<v Speaker 7>I do believe that we need to get radical about

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<v Speaker 7>what we are doing.

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<v Speaker 8>That it's a great voice of work thereby Rita fanta here.

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<v Speaker 8>Well done. But again, if CNN had any integrity, which

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<v Speaker 8>of course we just don't, they would have gone latch

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<v Speaker 8>hard on this and tried to pin down on Harris

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<v Speaker 8>on what she really believes and exposed her as a

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<v Speaker 8>radical California leftist who's into every balker's progressive ideas, from

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<v Speaker 8>open borders to banning plastic straws. But no, they're just suffering,

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<v Speaker 8>I guess, from a case of good old TDS or

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<v Speaker 8>Trump derangement syndrome. If only there was a cure for it.

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<v Speaker 8>Hang on a second. Nicole Shanahan, who was RFK Junior's

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<v Speaker 8>running mate until he dropped out and endorsed Trump, has

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<v Speaker 8>just released an ad for a new treatment for TDS.

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<v Speaker 15>Are you or your loved.

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<v Speaker 20>Ones suffering from illnesses such as TDS also known as

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<v Speaker 20>Trump's derangement syndrome? Do you dismiss or deny the current

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<v Speaker 20>issues facing our country? Such as historic inflation, illegal immigration,

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<v Speaker 20>corporate corruption, World War three escalations, and the chronic disease epidemic?

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<v Speaker 20>Are you willing to elect someone who was the least

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<v Speaker 20>popular vice president in modern history and who offers no

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<v Speaker 20>policy or vision for America simply because your brain keeps

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<v Speaker 20>telling you anyone but Trump. If so, you might be

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<v Speaker 20>struggling from TDS. Introducing independence independence allows you the freedom

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<v Speaker 20>to finally think independently once again, instead of believing everything

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<v Speaker 20>you hear from the mainstream media, Independence allows for constructive,

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<v Speaker 20>critical thinking.

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<v Speaker 11>I used to hear people on the newsday things.

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<v Speaker 15>Like Donald Trump and the movement he is encouraged are

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<v Speaker 15>a threat to democracy.

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<v Speaker 20>And I instantly believed it. With independence, I now realize

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<v Speaker 20>the media is run by the Democrat elite, who are

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<v Speaker 20>a corrupt oligarchy that sensors free speech. Independence may not

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<v Speaker 20>be for everyone. If you enjoy being lied to about

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<v Speaker 20>your president's cognitive abilities, support or Willian totalitarianism, or are

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<v Speaker 20>excited about communist fiscal policy, independence may not be right

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<v Speaker 20>for you. Common side effects of independence may include an

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<v Speaker 20>awakening of rational thought, successfully identifying propaganda, freedom of choice,

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<v Speaker 20>loss of hatred, anti narcissistic behavior, and love of democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic. How good is that independent thinking? Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's anyone in an Australia Reader and James,

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<v Speaker 2>you might need some suffering from TVs who could do

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<v Speaker 2>some independent things.

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<v Speaker 1>Commentators anywhere spring to mile.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they could take a dose of independence thinking there Withney.

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<v Speaker 1>That was great James and.

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<v Speaker 5>ABC, but you're right, it's actually more depressing spread.

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<v Speaker 8>I think we're the ABC. I think they're the part

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<v Speaker 8>of that ad where it was you know, independence might

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<v Speaker 8>not be right for you.

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<v Speaker 2>But what was interesting in there as well was that

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<v Speaker 2>little clip of Mark Zuckerberg, the Facebook CEO, Meta CEO,

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<v Speaker 2>and he has come out this week. I wrote a

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<v Speaker 2>letter in which he admitted something we talked about here

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<v Speaker 2>on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Right way back at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Joe Biden's presidency when Forbes magazine revealed that Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Zuckerberg had put four hundred million dollars into quote fortifying

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<v Speaker 2>the election result for Joe Biden and the Democrats at

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<v Speaker 2>the last election, thereby arguably denying Donald Trump the presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>When you combine that with the disgraceful way that the

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter Biden story was suppressed by not only Facebook, by

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of social media, and the polls showing that

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<v Speaker 2>many Democrats would have changed the vote had they known

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<v Speaker 2>of that, Zuckerberg's letter was really really important in that

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<v Speaker 2>he admitted that this he had been pressured by the Democrats,

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<v Speaker 2>by the American government under sorry by the FBI and others,

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<v Speaker 2>under the auspices of Joe Biden and the Democrats to

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<v Speaker 2>suppress knowledge and to suppress information, including during COVID rita.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a pretty extraordinary mayor Kolper, if you like,

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<v Speaker 2>from Mark Zuckerberg. What was going on and how important

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<v Speaker 2>was it?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's essentially admitted to collusion big tech with the

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<v Speaker 5>Biden administration other authorities to censor free speech. So it

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<v Speaker 5>ranged from funny memes to information say about COVID which

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<v Speaker 5>was actually factually correct. As we know, the Hunter Biden

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<v Speaker 5>laptop story, which had all sorts of explosive information on

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<v Speaker 5>that laptop about the Biden family's dodgy business dealings. All

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<v Speaker 5>of that was either suppress or band altogether. And we

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<v Speaker 5>know this guy is not some right wing reactionary. He's

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<v Speaker 5>very much of the left. Rowan mentioned he donated an

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<v Speaker 5>enormous amount of his own money in the lead up

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<v Speaker 5>to twenty twenty election. I'm not buying this mere culpa,

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<v Speaker 5>this red pill moment. I think he's just seeing that

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<v Speaker 5>there's a very good chance Donald Trump is going to

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<v Speaker 5>have a second term. Jd Vance is very motivated to

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<v Speaker 5>tackle big tech, and I think he's us running.

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<v Speaker 8>But I mean to marry this.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of this stuff crosses the line, James into criminal.

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<v Speaker 8>So this goes further than that readA. I mean this

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<v Speaker 8>is in this letter, Mark Zuckerberg essentially confessed to election interference.

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<v Speaker 8>He said that that you know, and it also implicates

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<v Speaker 8>the FBI also in election interference. And this is why,

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<v Speaker 8>and you know, I bang on about free speech, but

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<v Speaker 8>without free speech, we are slaves. There is no freedom

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<v Speaker 8>without free speech. And when you look at this letter

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<v Speaker 8>and then you look at what's happening in Brazil now

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<v Speaker 8>where a judge is finding anybody who accesses X through

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<v Speaker 8>a VPN ten thousand dollars a day and has kicked

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<v Speaker 8>the service out of the country on the basis of

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<v Speaker 8>look misinformation. You have a look at it. But here,

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<v Speaker 8>but here's the really important point about this. In the

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<v Speaker 8>US both Kamala Harris and Tim Wall have given statements

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<v Speaker 8>about free speech where they say no, free speech doesn't

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<v Speaker 8>extend to and then they say misinformation, and which is

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<v Speaker 8>the way of saying controlling the narrative. Just watch if

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<v Speaker 8>Harris and Waltz get up, there will be a move

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<v Speaker 8>against Elon Musk and X, just like there is in Brazil.

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<v Speaker 8>Saw the first Amendment, which is so vital, is going

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<v Speaker 8>to be shredded.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we saw the guy arrested zero of Durov, Pavel

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<v Speaker 2>Durov arrested in France. He was the telegram owner. There's

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<v Speaker 2>this war on social media and rita very disturbingly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you mentioned the judge.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just have a quick look at the judge in Brazil.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks like a James Bond villain. Will put him

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<v Speaker 2>up on the screen in the second.

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<v Speaker 1>But bringing it back home to Australia, this is area.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the judge who banned X, who banned.

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter in Brazil. Guy's okay, there you go. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we're up against.

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<v Speaker 2>Some dark forces, some might argue, but bring it back

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<v Speaker 2>home to Australia is kitty. This is why the Coalition

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<v Speaker 2>needs to do a very dramatic U turn and get

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<v Speaker 2>against this idea of the E Safety Commissioner, because she

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<v Speaker 2>will head down the same route Albanesi is heaving down.

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<v Speaker 1>Is already headed down. Albanesi and co. They all want

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<v Speaker 1>to do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The left around the world want to suppress free speech

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<v Speaker 2>that James is talking about, and they want to do

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<v Speaker 2>a purely on political grounds to preserve their kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hedgemony over political debate.

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<v Speaker 1>It must be resisted.

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<v Speaker 2>And the losers from what the crusade of people like

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<v Speaker 2>the E Safety Commissioners, the losers are conservatives, make no

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<v Speaker 2>bones about it. So that Peter Dutton and the Coalition

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<v Speaker 2>you better do a handbreak U turn, very very sharpish

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<v Speaker 2>and get on the right track of this story. You

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<v Speaker 2>should be speaking up for free speech and speaking up

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<v Speaker 2>against censorship of social media, against censorship of freedom of thought,

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<v Speaker 2>because otherwise you will lose really important that you do this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break now. After the break,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the Canbra clown Show. In a tick, roll up,

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<v Speaker 2>roll up, step right this way. It's the wackiest show

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<v Speaker 2>on earth. It's the Hello Hello, is that an echo

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<v Speaker 2>I hear over at the ABC.

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<v Speaker 8>Hi, I'm Paul Barry and roll up, roll up. Another

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<v Speaker 8>circ attack is on the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi. Yes, it's Paul Barry, my favorite ABC comedian, proving

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<v Speaker 2>as he always does, that imitation is the sincerest form

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<v Speaker 2>of flattery. Thank you, Paul. I am indeed flattered. This week,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, as it does every year, our traveling circus

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<v Speaker 2>traveled all the way to Tuvalu or was it Tonga

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<v Speaker 2>or some other tropical island paradise where the clowns like

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<v Speaker 2>to go every year, armed with buckets of your cash

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<v Speaker 2>to dish out to climate stuff islanders who like to

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<v Speaker 2>stand in a row in the shallows with their trousers

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<v Speaker 2>rolled up every year in preparation for those rising sea levels.

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<v Speaker 2>This year was no different, with everybody's favorite climate clown,

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<v Speaker 2>indeed one of the greatest clowns on the International gravy

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<v Speaker 2>Train circus I mean circuit, who came equipped with all

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<v Speaker 2>his favorite one liners.

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<v Speaker 21>I am in Tonga to issue a Global SOS Save

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<v Speaker 21>our Seas on rising sea levels. Global average sea levels

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<v Speaker 21>a rising at rates and precedented. In the past three

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<v Speaker 21>thousand years, relative sea levels in the south western Pacific

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<v Speaker 21>have risen even more than the global average. Greenose gases

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<v Speaker 21>overwhelmingly generated by burning fossil fuels are cooking or planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah yes, cooking our planets even worse than boiling it.

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<v Speaker 21>Apparently, the era of global warming has ended. The the

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<v Speaker 21>hero of global boiling has arrived.

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<v Speaker 8>But has it really?

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<v Speaker 2>According to the climate skeptic blog Joe Nova, which you

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<v Speaker 2>can and must read at Joannova dot com, a new.

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<v Speaker 1>Fiji coral study shows.

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<v Speaker 2>That the Pacific Ocean was almost as warm as it

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<v Speaker 2>is now.

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<v Speaker 1>Six hundred years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the witty Joe Nova quote, some force was

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<v Speaker 2>warming the Earth six hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus years ago, and the experts don't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the Earth cooled, and the experts don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>caused that either, though the sun was suspiciously quiet. But

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<v Speaker 2>we're not supposed to mention that the water around Fiji

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<v Speaker 2>started warming in eighteen hundred AD, long before humans invented

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<v Speaker 2>coal power or the model t forward. Meanwhile, while Gutis

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<v Speaker 2>and Poe are warning about cooking or boiling the planet,

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<v Speaker 2>over at the Australian energy market, operator East Coast Aussies

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<v Speaker 2>might have trouble cooking a chook this Christmas quote. Households

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<v Speaker 2>face an ongoing multi year risk of power shortages in

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<v Speaker 2>New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia from this summer,

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<v Speaker 2>with authorities warning that major reliability risks could derail the

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<v Speaker 2>electricity grid unless new energy supplies are urgently developed. Not

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<v Speaker 2>that climate change and energy clown Chris Bowen seems overly

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<v Speaker 2>concerned as he carries on with the reckless net zero

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<v Speaker 2>clown show. However, even Bobo Bowen must be finally catching

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<v Speaker 2>on to the fact that the public are no longer

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<v Speaker 2>interested in a word he.

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<v Speaker 1>Has to say. Because the circus has well and truly left.

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<v Speaker 6>Town happy to take some questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe we have a journalists on the phone.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, no generous on the phone?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, no questions? Well in all done, great, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>very much.

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<v Speaker 6>WHOA.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, back at the Tongue and Traveling Circus, Australia's top clown,

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<v Speaker 2>ol Bozo the Generous was handing out the cash and

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<v Speaker 2>then got caught bragging about it on a hot mic

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<v Speaker 2>and landed himself in hot water.

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<v Speaker 1>Not boiling water, mind, just hot water. We're making our

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<v Speaker 1>way through the Pacific.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, we had a cracker today getting the Pacific

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<v Speaker 10>policing in this ship.

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<v Speaker 9>This is a fantastic you think it's so important. It's

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<v Speaker 9>a great and I talked with Kevin about it, so

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<v Speaker 9>you know we were going to do something in the ass.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not too soon. We did not just giving you vowlin.

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<v Speaker 1>The cost if you come on.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the Australian newspaper quote at his press conference,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Albanize he flatly denied that mister Campbell said the

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<v Speaker 2>US was preparing a similar project to the PPI, but

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<v Speaker 2>that Washington held off at the request of mister Rudd.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't say that. He didn't say that. He did

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<v Speaker 2>not say that. Mister Albanese, he said, what a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>But Alboso wasn't finished clowning around on the taxpayer's dime.

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<v Speaker 2>Here he is performing the classic Benny Hill running late

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<v Speaker 2>for a photo op routine at the Tongan Traveling Circus.

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<v Speaker 2>You're watching outsiders unhappy far day to all the outsiders

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<v Speaker 2>fathers who are.

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<v Speaker 1>There enjoying the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hope your kids are sending you lots of

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<v Speaker 2>things or buying you lunch or a beer or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Sydney University, I mean seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are a funder or a donor to Sydney University,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to take your money and put it somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a Sydney University professor who told first year

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<v Speaker 2>students that the Hamas mass rape and sexual violence of

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<v Speaker 2>October seventh. We've all seen the footage horrific, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the worst atrocities, certainly of this century.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fake news. According to this professor. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a hoax. And James, what has happened to her?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, she's going to avoid anything resembling serious pulishment. Instead,

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<v Speaker 8>an internal investigation has found she breached the university's called conduct.

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<v Speaker 8>But essentially nothing is going to happen to her. And

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<v Speaker 8>this is, you know, the same university. Let's not forget

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<v Speaker 8>where they allowed that disgraceful encampment to go on for

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<v Speaker 8>months and months and months on the quad. When interviewed

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<v Speaker 8>about that, the vice chancellor on TGB said that, well,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, it's a big campus and people can walk

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<v Speaker 8>around the encampment if they don't want to see it.

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<v Speaker 8>It's just another element of just really disgraceful business by

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<v Speaker 8>this university, which you know, at the same time it's

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<v Speaker 8>doing this, is also crying poor over the fact that,

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<v Speaker 8>oh no, we won't be able to mint as many

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<v Speaker 8>degrees for international students.

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<v Speaker 3>As students there used to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Togo had a vote where they refused to condemn a

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<v Speaker 5>mass So this is what the mindset we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'd love to see some data from Australian universities

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<v Speaker 5>because in the US they're polling Jewish students and one polls,

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<v Speaker 5>worryingly showed forty four percent of college students said they

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<v Speaker 5>rarely or never feel safe identifying as Jewish on campus,

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<v Speaker 5>So rarely or never almost half.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's really that's ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>If you said that, you'd say you'd be crazy, but

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<v Speaker 5>it has we have got to that point.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got the absurdity where there's supposedly an inquiry a

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<v Speaker 2>committee looking into anti semitism at how universities, and oh

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<v Speaker 2>who the Greens are inserted into this particular committee marine.

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<v Speaker 1>Ferruki known for her balanced views on all matters of

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, not only that she is. In the past she

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<v Speaker 8>has refused to say that Hamas should be dismantled. You

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<v Speaker 8>know so, I mean the.

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<v Speaker 5>ABC, the ABC were alarmed with what that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Hearing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Does Hamas need to be dismantled.

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<v Speaker 3>The Palestinians need to decide where they want to go, So.

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<v Speaker 4>If they choose Hamas, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And what can I say?

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<v Speaker 4>I should have been dismantled.

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<v Speaker 7>Hamas is an organization that exists in the region.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure you're able to say, well, you'd like to see

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<v Speaker 2>them go, and it's not up to me.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I love first of all guys. There was

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<v Speaker 8>almost that sort of Kamala Harris. Hamas is an organization

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<v Speaker 8>that exists in the region. I mean that was total.

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<v Speaker 5>Classes absolutely, Oh my gosh, it was when she tried

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<v Speaker 5>to describe the Russian Ukrainian.

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<v Speaker 8>Russia is a country, small country.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh dear me.

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<v Speaker 5>But this is really an insult to It makes a

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<v Speaker 5>mockery of the whole thing. And uh, it's there to

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<v Speaker 5>undermine it, That's what it is. Why would you put her,

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<v Speaker 5>of all people if you want to have someone from

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<v Speaker 5>the Greens in this why her fact Really I struggled

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<v Speaker 5>to think of a Greens MP who would be fixed.

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<v Speaker 8>But this is you know, also, let's not forget here,

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<v Speaker 8>this is really you know what we're seeing here with

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<v Speaker 8>this anti semitism on campus in Australia, around the world,

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<v Speaker 8>the United States, everywhere. You know, we have been talking

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<v Speaker 8>on this program for years about the sickness at the

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<v Speaker 8>heart of academia, you know, the sectarian leftist lunacy. And

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<v Speaker 8>you know it started out as almost sort of a

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<v Speaker 8>joke many years ago. Oh so PC you know this well.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, this is a great example of why you

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<v Speaker 8>have to be interested in culture and the culture wars,

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<v Speaker 8>because when you let this stuff fester, than what you

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<v Speaker 8>wind up with is an explosion of anti Semitism, which

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<v Speaker 8>is always what you see in any society that's got

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<v Speaker 8>a sickness satus herd.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is why Peter Darton has been so important

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<v Speaker 2>as the leader of the Coalition, and this is why

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<v Speaker 2>we need him as the next Prime Minister to simply

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<v Speaker 2>the strength of character on all issues to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the anti anti semitism and designism, whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call it. He has been absolutely a pillar in our

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<v Speaker 2>democracy alone amongst the rest.

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<v Speaker 8>His instincts have been so correct right from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 8>because I think that's he just genuinely gets it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's not just his political instincts.

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<v Speaker 5>He's just had moral class one.

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<v Speaker 3>He has not wavered.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously politically it may be risky because the Muslim population

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<v Speaker 5>in this country is considerably bigger than the Jewish population,

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<v Speaker 5>but he's not thought about that.

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<v Speaker 3>He's thought about what's right for the country moral.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, speaking of the politics of it all, there is

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<v Speaker 2>a advocacy group Muslim Votes Matter.

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<v Speaker 1>They're meeting today.

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<v Speaker 2>Sadly I had something else on, but you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you intend visiting this or joining this group to hear

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<v Speaker 2>what they have to say about Muslim votes, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a really important thing because it divides the Western suburb seats.

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<v Speaker 2>It puts at risk the seats of Jason Clair, Chris Bowen,

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Burke, and it explains why the Labor government panders

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<v Speaker 2>so much to the Muslim vote. And as we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>in the UK, it's a very powerful vote when it

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<v Speaker 2>gets its act together.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I think you know, it was that good about

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<v Speaker 8>you know, sectarianism coming to Britain was spot on, and

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<v Speaker 8>that's the same world we're going to go down here.

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<v Speaker 8>But also I just think that it's so interesting we're

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<v Speaker 8>going to get to watch labor and the Greens, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>who have all been ra rah, diversity rah rah, all

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<v Speaker 8>sorts of other cultures, bring them in here, and now

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<v Speaker 8>they're about to be in a lot of political trouble

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<v Speaker 8>because of a group that disagrees with them on so

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<v Speaker 8>many things about sexuality, gender, all of.

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<v Speaker 2>They gain your point, James, about the importance of the

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<v Speaker 2>fighting the culture wars.

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<v Speaker 1>That culture example, we've.

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<v Speaker 5>Seen overseas one trumps the other. So yes, you've got

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<v Speaker 5>these people who really agree on nothing other than their

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<v Speaker 5>shared hatred of conservatives and the West and Western imperidsm.

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<v Speaker 5>But when you look at the hierarchy of oppression, Islam

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<v Speaker 5>seems to trump the other ones, because we've seen that

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<v Speaker 5>in an number of hurricane because with their beliefs I.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe so held more strongly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now speaking of political beliefs and identity, politics and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that craziness, NASA you think would be the most

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<v Speaker 2>scientific body free from all this garbage. No, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>not have a listen to how wokeness is infused. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a training lesson at NASA, delivered by.

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<v Speaker 1>A diversity person there at NASA. Have a listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't make you horrified, I don't know what will.

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<v Speaker 12>The idea of power hoarding, the idea of individualism over collectivism,

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<v Speaker 12>quantity over quality, either or thinking, and so all of

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<v Speaker 12>these things can really limit the way we go about

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<v Speaker 12>doing our work, and they can really limit the way

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<v Speaker 12>we are able to connect with communities that come from

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<v Speaker 12>different cultural backgrounds that don't value these things the same

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<v Speaker 12>way that white supremacy culture values them.

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<v Speaker 3>The first word on that list is perfectionism. I would

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<v Speaker 3>have thought you'd want.

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<v Speaker 5>That in space travel, where any little tiny era could

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<v Speaker 5>be catastrophic.

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<v Speaker 3>That's worrying. Thank god, I'm not going to be on

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<v Speaker 3>any sort of rocket ships.

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<v Speaker 8>But Jack, this is you know a note by the

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<v Speaker 8>way that they've got this Boeing starliner that's up there.

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<v Speaker 8>They can't get the ash astronauts off of, you know Boeing.

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<v Speaker 8>Well we've run the problems, so there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>No no perfectionism here signs we don't have perfectionism or

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<v Speaker 2>right or wrong thinking or anything that crack wasn't that great.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a good line.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great Father's Day, everybody that sit for Outsiders

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<v Speaker 2>this week, We'll see you next Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>To the Loop.