Speaker 1: Lord, this is Outsiders.
Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to Outsiders, the show that is
Speaker 2: to woke, virtue signaling and identity politics on steroids. What
Speaker 2: Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Is to diagnosing a brand new disease. They suffer from
Speaker 1: a thing called TDS. Do you know what that is? Yes? TDS.
Speaker 1: It's a horrible, horrible terminal disease. It destroys the mind.
Speaker 2: It destroys the mind before the body, but the body
Speaker 2: eventually goes TDS is Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 3: He's so funny.
Speaker 4: Ah.
Speaker 5: Yes, James will propose a cure for that particular disease
Speaker 5: later in the program. Meanwhile, what about the Kamala Harris debate?
Speaker 5: I mean, of course, the one where she is debating herself.
Speaker 6: Everyday.
Speaker 7: Prices are too high, food, rent, gas, back to school clothes, that.
Speaker 3: Is calmed bidonomics.
Speaker 7: A look, bread cost fifty percent more today, brown beef
Speaker 7: is up almost fifty percent.
Speaker 6: There is not much left at.
Speaker 1: The end of the month.
Speaker 3: Bidonomics is working.
Speaker 7: The price of housing has gone up. It feels so
Speaker 7: hard to just be able to get ahead.
Speaker 3: And we are very proud of Bidenomics.
Speaker 8: Meanwhile, after the abysmal CNN interview, everyone's wondering how Kamala
Speaker 8: Harris will behave if she does get to debate Trump.
Speaker 8: I mean, I think we already know. Here's Kamala Harris
Speaker 8: debating the very gentlemanly Mike Pence back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 7: Mister Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking, mister Vice President.
Speaker 7: I'm speaking, I'm speaking.
Speaker 1: The important is the roof vice president speaking. I'm speaking.
Speaker 7: Okay, if you don't mind letting me finish, we can
Speaker 7: then have a conversation. Okay, please, okay, answer now?
Speaker 8: Do people deserve a straight answer?
Speaker 7: I will not sit here and be lectured by the
Speaker 7: Vice president. I'm speaking. Yeah, I'm about to I will
Speaker 7: not be lectured by the vice president.
Speaker 2: Yes, man explaining the lowest trick in the female politician's book.
Speaker 2: Just wait for Kamala Harrison to go full Gillard.
Speaker 1: You should never go full Gillard.
Speaker 2: And now let's grab the latest outside of his news. Well,
Speaker 2: Reacher and James, we've been throwing money around willy nilly.
Speaker 1: The Albanizy government often.
Speaker 2: How I get the impression Albo thinks the money is
Speaker 2: all his reta. We've got two hundred million, we've got
Speaker 2: four hundred million, we've got gold mines of the being
Speaker 2: shut down.
Speaker 1: What on earth is going on with this government. We'll
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 5: Start with Victoria, the just into Alan government, so that's
Speaker 5: the alban easy government on steroids as you like that.
Speaker 6: We can't afford.
Speaker 5: The Commonwealth Games that we are proudly celebrated winning nobody
Speaker 5: else wanted. But now apparently we're going to pay for
Speaker 5: Scotland to hold the games. The Victorian taxpayers already propping
Speaker 5: up the state, which is the biggest debt of any
Speaker 5: state in the country, are going to be paying two
Speaker 5: hundred million, which the Scottish Authority say will cover the
Speaker 5: whole cost of the games.
Speaker 3: I don't know how These games.
Speaker 5: In Victoria were going to cost six to seven billion,
Speaker 5: which made them unaffordable.
Speaker 3: Initially we thought there was going to be around two
Speaker 3: and a.
Speaker 5: Half billion, But Scotland will hold them for two hundred
Speaker 5: million because Victorian taxpayers will be yes.
Speaker 2: That's because Scotland doesn't have a CFMEU.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 8: That's why they.
Speaker 1: Can do it for a lot these games.
Speaker 8: As somebody, as somebody of Scottish ancestry, partial Scottish ancestry,
Speaker 8: I love the fact that Scotland has lived up to
Speaker 8: its reputation for being good with money, shall we say,
Speaker 8: and she just like a deal out of Victoria on this,
Speaker 8: But I mean it is it's so funny too, because
Speaker 8: we talked about last week of Victoria it's going to
Speaker 8: pay now to have what is the diversity games, the
Speaker 8: gay Games or whatever game?
Speaker 5: Well when now we're in the final ten for those,
Speaker 5: but we've these games that we're no longer holding have
Speaker 5: already cost the state hundreds of millions, around four hundred
Speaker 5: million in compensation having to be paid because that we
Speaker 5: promised to hold the games that we then failed to.
Speaker 5: It's just embarrassing, you know what, at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, as a Victorian, as a proud Victorian, it
Speaker 5: is embarrassing to see what the state has been reduced
Speaker 5: to to being mocked nationally. Now internationally they're probably laughing
Speaker 5: at us that we're paying for their games and we
Speaker 5: need choice.
Speaker 3: That's the bottom line, Victoria. We don't have choice.
Speaker 5: We've got a LIB opposition which is utterlygutless, without principle,
Speaker 5: without policy, just a labor light product that nobody wants.
Speaker 3: And then we've got these.
Speaker 5: Hard left socialist ideologues who have bankrupted the state. So
Speaker 5: the people really have no choice where we're left with uh.
Speaker 8: And you know, you can see such a contrast too
Speaker 8: when you look at what you've got in the Dan
Speaker 8: Andrews government or nothing. Sorry the end's just an our
Speaker 8: government now former Dan Edge any mistake to make. But
Speaker 8: you look at the contrast between that and you know,
Speaker 8: New South Wales, which is run by a competent labor government,
Speaker 8: you know, Chrispin's I would say it's probably the most
Speaker 8: competent premier you've got anywhere in the country. Sydney is gleaming.
Speaker 8: There's infrastructure that the Libs started that labor has finished.
Speaker 8: They've got all sorts of projects.
Speaker 1: That actually mount to Victoria, you know.
Speaker 8: And then you go down to Melbourne and the CBD
Speaker 8: is shabby, it's run down. People aren't going to work anymore.
Speaker 8: It's just such a chalk and cheese comparison between these
Speaker 8: two cities.
Speaker 5: And the way they are punishing anyone who contributes in Victoria.
Speaker 5: So if you pay payroll tax, if you employ people,
Speaker 5: you're going to be paying more land tax. They've just
Speaker 5: got a few sources of income that they keep going
Speaker 5: to and they're just bleeding people. And it used to
Speaker 5: be certain demographics would lead Victoria because it got too tough.
Speaker 5: Now you've got people on the other end of the
Speaker 5: spectrum who are financially secure and have got wealth. They're
Speaker 5: leaving the state in droves because the taxes are just
Speaker 5: absolutely killing them. Why do that in Victoria when you
Speaker 5: can move to New South Wales or Queensland and have
Speaker 5: a completely different.
Speaker 3: Business model.
Speaker 5: You don't have to be completely bled by an inept
Speaker 5: government that has got itself in the set.
Speaker 2: Sure, but the real problem is then that is the
Speaker 2: federal government and New South Wales might be lucky at
Speaker 2: the moment with the men's government. It's a labor government,
Speaker 2: and the federal labor government is so bad. I mean
Speaker 2: they are stumbling from one disaster to the next. Talk
Speaker 2: about throwing money around. The thing about Albo, he seems
Speaker 2: to treat all this money like it's his own money
Speaker 2: and it's there for to make him look good.
Speaker 1: We had the absurdity of the.
Speaker 2: Four hundred million dollars being handed out of the Pacific
Speaker 2: Island Forum for Policing in the Pacific. Now James and
Speaker 2: will debate this in the second but the first thing
Speaker 2: you have to remember here is that the taxpayer is
Speaker 2: paying four hundred million dollars to set up police forces
Speaker 2: in the Pacific Island when we're struggling to have enough
Speaker 2: police forces, particularly.
Speaker 1: In rural and out back Australia.
Speaker 2: But the other thing is that the controversy as such
Speaker 2: was around the fact that Albo was caught kind of joking.
Speaker 2: For me, it was offensive that the guy was joking about,
Speaker 2: Oh to the Americans, Oh, you could have chucked in halves,
Speaker 2: you could have gone as Harvey's on two hundred million.
Speaker 2: You know, these vast sums of money and being having
Speaker 2: people in our leaders treating them as just some kind
Speaker 2: of pocket change that they can throw out. I find
Speaker 2: deeply offensive because it's our taxes that pay for all
Speaker 2: is But James, let's just first play the hot mic controversies.
Speaker 2: So Albanize was caught talking to the American representative at
Speaker 2: the Pacific Island Forum joking about the four hundred million
Speaker 2: the Australia's paying, and it appears that the references to
Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd having said to the Americans, don't worry, you
Speaker 2: don't need to contribute to this, or you know, we're
Speaker 2: going to make the announcement. We want this to be
Speaker 2: a big Australian announcement so that it would appear Olbow
Speaker 2: gets all the cutos.
Speaker 1: Something like that.
Speaker 2: But let's have a listen to the hot mic incident
Speaker 2: and then James will pick up from there.
Speaker 9: We're making our way through the Pacific, you know.
Speaker 10: Well, we had a cracker today getting the Pacific Policing
Speaker 10: indus hip because.
Speaker 9: This is a fantastic it's a script and I talked
Speaker 9: with Kevin about it, and so we were going to
Speaker 9: do something in BS.
Speaker 1: That's not to assuming he did nothing, giving you vain
Speaker 1: the cost field.
Speaker 8: Come on, lady, now, the real story here behind that
Speaker 8: hot mic is that is that later on, after that
Speaker 8: got played and publicized around the country, Albanizy got completely
Speaker 8: snippy and lost it with the press corps that was
Speaker 8: traveling with him, you know, saying how dare you catch
Speaker 8: me on a hot bike and how dare you publicize that?
Speaker 8: And I think that's a simbol of how just utterly
Speaker 8: snippy he's become about the press and how defensive he
Speaker 8: now is. But on the issue though Rowan of the
Speaker 8: spending money on this Pacific Island Police Force I actually
Speaker 8: don't have a huge problem with spending money in general
Speaker 8: principle on that, because the fact of the matter is
Speaker 8: if we don't go in there with aid and with
Speaker 8: help policing and so we've seen many countries you know,
Speaker 8: who's come in and done that and set up their
Speaker 8: own police forces on these islands, China, and that's not
Speaker 8: what we want. That is bad for Australia our security. Sure,
Speaker 8: it would have been great if we could have done
Speaker 8: the deal better with America to get them to kick
Speaker 8: in some of that money. Fine, I don't have a
Speaker 8: problem with criticizing them for that, But the idea of
Speaker 8: spending money to set up regional policing in the Pacific,
Speaker 8: I don't have a.
Speaker 5: Well, China extracts something for that largest they're not just
Speaker 5: doing it out of the goodness. I'm not sure Australia
Speaker 5: is getting that same value. So that taxpayers are going
Speaker 5: to be money going to be spent there in the
Speaker 5: order of four hundred million dollars, we're not talking about
Speaker 5: in significant sum.
Speaker 3: There needs to be some sort of return.
Speaker 5: There needs to be an understanding whether it's helping us
Speaker 5: in the region, whether it's provided providing us with favorable
Speaker 5: trade agreements, whatever it is. We need to see some
Speaker 5: value out of this beyond just being a good.
Speaker 8: And global citizen. It's not about being a good global city.
Speaker 8: It's about stopping China. Yeah, China, that's the most important.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But the reality is that the same Pacific Island
Speaker 2: Forum you had the Chinese change the wording to exclude
Speaker 2: Taiwan towards the end, so that so it is working yet, yeah,
Speaker 2: it might work further down the train.
Speaker 8: I agree with you.
Speaker 2: We must be doing whatever we can to prevent, you know,
Speaker 2: the Chess moves to prevent China from really taking over
Speaker 2: these islands, and I'm not sure four hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: of taxpayers money is necessarily the best way to do it.
Speaker 2: If it helps, fantastic, But the reality is China's marching
Speaker 2: through there. We need to be strong diplomatically as well
Speaker 2: and have a navy, maybe a navy that we have
Speaker 2: which would be a good idea for Australia.
Speaker 3: And we need to learn from the four years of the.
Speaker 5: Trump administration about how they handle China, because again there's
Speaker 5: a story that one of the ways they managed to
Speaker 5: isolate Iran, the Iranian regime was they went to China
Speaker 5: and said, if you're buying from Iran, if you're buying
Speaker 5: oil or whatever, we're going to impose sanctions or tariff.
Speaker 5: Well here's another and guess what happened. They abided by that.
Speaker 5: I know we're not an economic superpower like the US,
Speaker 5: but we've still got things we can be doing.
Speaker 8: You know what we can do, what we can do,
Speaker 8: you know what we can do here. If you want
Speaker 8: to talk about being smart and boxing smart with China,
Speaker 8: let's talk about how the whole green transition that Chris
Speaker 8: Bowen is pushing absolutely is going to wind up increasing
Speaker 8: our our total dependence on China. Who builds the wind farms,
Speaker 8: who builds the solar panels, you know, who owns a
Speaker 8: lot of these renewable energy zones, and who is selling
Speaker 8: these electric vehicles, these electric vehicles that they are forcing
Speaker 8: us into through the taxes on petrol vehicles, and you know,
Speaker 8: emitters and even hybrids of China, China, And so look
Speaker 8: at what other countries are doing. Even Canada, I think,
Speaker 8: is talking about doing put through a one hundred percent
Speaker 8: tariff odd Chinese. Trump is talking about this is what
Speaker 8: we did about and get rid of the green new
Speaker 8: deal stuff here which is winding up making US board
Speaker 8: dependent on China for our energy.
Speaker 2: But you've also forgotten to mention that, of course, once
Speaker 2: all these renewables infrastructure is in place across this nation,
Speaker 2: who can turn it off at the flick of a
Speaker 2: statue The people who built it China, And there's no
Speaker 2: question about that. So you're right that we should need
Speaker 2: to be blocking China. I'm not sure four hundred million
Speaker 2: taxtaile pairs dollars to Tonguan and tu Vaalu and police
Speaker 2: officers necessarily the best use of our money. But we
Speaker 2: agree to disagree on that. Let's talk about the census.
Speaker 2: So the census again, the Almanizi government. It is clear
Speaker 2: to me, Rita and James that this mob are floundering.
Speaker 1: They're tripping all over each other.
Speaker 2: It is a clown show, as I'll be going through
Speaker 2: later on in the show. But you can tell when
Speaker 2: a government is really on the nose, when when the
Speaker 2: errors compound and they seem to trip over one mistake
Speaker 2: to another. And they've certainly seen this on the census.
Speaker 2: We've seen it on the gold mine, and we should
Speaker 2: chat about that as well.
Speaker 5: Rita, well, this is an unforced error, again, completely self inflicted,
Speaker 5: much like the her mass visa fuel a much smaller
Speaker 5: scale of an issue. I would say, but why why
Speaker 5: take this position then do a backflip make it? Well,
Speaker 5: first they were going to withdraw the question about lgbtach do.
Speaker 1: You identify as whatever? Whatever?
Speaker 6: That's it, And I.
Speaker 5: Actually thought that was a fair enough move because I
Speaker 5: think you can't really trust those results. Now with the
Speaker 5: amount of coverage and politicization that has come into this issue,
Speaker 5: we're going to get people who are just going to
Speaker 5: tick that as a political exactly more so than actually
Speaker 5: how they live their life.
Speaker 3: And also that umbrella has become so.
Speaker 8: Wide interesting if you broke it up between the LGB
Speaker 8: and the tv I what they did.
Speaker 3: That's why the.
Speaker 5: Tay or the non binary that the other letters was
Speaker 5: a very tiny amount, and you're thinking, we're having so
Speaker 5: much debate and so much policy about such a tiny,
Speaker 5: teeny tiny portion of people.
Speaker 3: But he's done a backflip. There was a bit of
Speaker 3: an uproar from activists as.
Speaker 5: He is given in in record time, as Albow does
Speaker 5: as they always do.
Speaker 8: Well, you know what's funny about that is he just
Speaker 8: sort of you know, swung and punched himself in the
Speaker 8: face on this one. Yeah, you know, like like there
Speaker 8: was you know, this had simply not they said, simply
Speaker 8: not been an issue for anybody and had just been
Speaker 8: sort of sitting out there. And then apparently ALBERTIZI got
Speaker 8: so terrified that the Conservatives were going to come after
Speaker 8: about it, this thing that's going to be not asked
Speaker 8: for another two years, so until the next term of government,
Speaker 8: they shut it out.
Speaker 2: The good news is my prediction is absolutely solid Albanezi
Speaker 2: will not be the prime minister when that census is running.
Speaker 2: You heard it here, guaranteed. Now, let's talk.
Speaker 1: I guarantee it, I guarantee it, Rita. You can play
Speaker 1: this click back to me.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Paul Barry will be sticking it in his
Speaker 2: little file.
Speaker 1: Pull there, you guy, mate.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Tanya Libsi read to mention it the
Speaker 2: mindiness guy who says no to a gold mine. What
Speaker 2: responsible minister of a federal government says, oh no, no, you
Speaker 2: can't have the gold mine there. Uh.
Speaker 1: And they've done this.
Speaker 2: They've fallen all over themselves again with this Oh we
Speaker 2: didn't mean to we did mean to.
Speaker 1: You reckon James and Albanize he's kicking.
Speaker 8: Well, here's a really interesting thing. I under it, you know,
Speaker 8: Tardya Pleibersek had Kai Bosch this mind. We've talked about this,
Speaker 8: We had the interview with Roy RC last week, you know,
Speaker 8: and ALBERTIZI had been perfectly happy to let her go
Speaker 8: out there and twist on this because of course she's
Speaker 8: considered a rival to him in the party room, and
Speaker 8: so he was happy to see her coup a lot
Speaker 8: of damage over this, and she had because she screwed
Speaker 8: this up immensely with what she did to this mine.
Speaker 8: But here's the interesting thing. Now, after he said the
Speaker 8: other day, I'd be happy to see this mine go ahead,
Speaker 8: seemingly leaving clear resk out there twisting in the wind,
Speaker 8: correspondence has now been revealed and Simon Benson had this
Speaker 8: in The Australian yesterday this weekend. That three months ago,
Speaker 8: when it looked like this decision was going to come
Speaker 8: handed down, the owners of the Mind, Regius Resources, wrote
Speaker 8: directly to the Prime Minister requesting an urgent phone call
Speaker 8: or an urgent meeting about this pending decision, and nothing happened.
Speaker 8: So he knew that this was going to happen a.
Speaker 5: Helian dollar project in on it billion dollar project. New
Speaker 5: South Wales government never saved around two hundred million dollars
Speaker 5: in taxes and royalties that would have been for.
Speaker 1: The Scottish Games.
Speaker 5: Been a bigger guy, around eight hundred well paid created
Speaker 5: in that area.
Speaker 8: Yes, which desperately needs it too.
Speaker 3: Desperately needs it.
Speaker 5: We've got the local Aboriginal Land Council on board, Premier
Speaker 5: Chris Means, I think has been.
Speaker 8: This is also opened up. You know, there was at
Speaker 8: the Daily Telegraph Bush Summit, which happened to be in Orange,
Speaker 8: they actually interviewed a cardboard cutout of Toddy Pleurosek over it,
Speaker 8: which was pretty funny. But here's the thing though, this
Speaker 8: opens up completely the charge that and it's correct. I
Speaker 8: think that the green left environmental movement, which is very
Speaker 8: prominent in labor is all run out of the cities,
Speaker 8: and the cities are happy to over and over again
Speaker 8: screw the regions over their renewables obsessions, their anti mining obsessions.
Speaker 8: You know, you can't have a gold mine, but you
Speaker 8: will have your land carpeted with solar panels and with
Speaker 8: wind farms. You just got to have to lump it.
Speaker 8: And you know the regions I think are really sick
Speaker 8: of it.
Speaker 2: Where Geina Ryn had made the point at the Bush Summit,
Speaker 2: only twenty percent of the major resources projects now get through.
Speaker 2: So this is the great Australian economy has built on
Speaker 2: resource projects. Now, thanks to labor and the Greens and
Speaker 2: the Red Tape and the Green tape and the Black tape,
Speaker 2: only twenty percent of getting through.
Speaker 1: We're destroying this country.
Speaker 2: We're destroying the wealth and prosperity of this country for
Speaker 2: future generations, and the lunatic sitting in Canberra are doing
Speaker 2: it deliberately.
Speaker 1: Now there's only one.
Speaker 2: Thing worse than a hard left Australian government, and that's
Speaker 2: a hard hard left British government and the brig government
Speaker 2: of Kirs Starmer. They lost me a while ago, but
Speaker 2: now it is war. I'm sorry. Matt Goodwin joins us now,
Speaker 2: Professor Matt Goodwin from the UK. It was funny, but
Speaker 2: now it is deadly serious, Matt Goodwin. Keir Starmer has
Speaker 2: removed the portrait of Maggie Thatcher from ten Downing Street
Speaker 2: and I will not.
Speaker 1: Stand for it, Matt's I will not stand for it.
Speaker 1: How I amte. Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 11: Well, obviously this is one of the stories that's captured
Speaker 11: the head lives I think you know for many people
Speaker 11: here in the UK. Actually this is a symbol of
Speaker 11: something a little bit darker. This is a guy who's
Speaker 11: just become Prime Minister. He's a noow sweeping crackdowns on
Speaker 11: free speech and free expression. Since taking control of Number
Speaker 11: ten Downing Street, he's continued to lose control over the
Speaker 11: borders and this week he gave a remarkably depressing speech
Speaker 11: about how he sees Britain a very gloomy, apocalyptic view
Speaker 11: of the country. Taxes are going to have to go up,
Speaker 11: spending on public services is going to have to go down.
Speaker 11: And here's the interesting thing. He didn't say anything at
Speaker 11: all about what voters say is the number one issue
Speaker 11: in Britain right now, and that issue is immigration. Keir
Speaker 11: Starmer didn't mention it at all.
Speaker 2: And it's completely out of control there in Britain and
Speaker 2: they obviously have no intention of trying to bring it
Speaker 2: under control. And apparently they're going to ban smoking at pubs.
Speaker 2: Is this correct or banned? It'll be here next to
Speaker 2: pubswander now mate, Nigel Farage is up in arms quite rightly, Matt.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's right.
Speaker 11: So what we're going to see is actually the extension
Speaker 11: of some legislation that came in, was tabled by Rishie
Speaker 11: Sunak and the Conservatives to basically phase out tobacco and smoking,
Speaker 11: and Kirs Starmer has taken that a step further in
Speaker 11: saying that now you can't even have a cigarette outside
Speaker 11: the pub with your pint. That is now going to
Speaker 11: be essentially outlawed. And of course for many people, why
Speaker 11: this matters is it's really representing this authoritarian streak within
Speaker 11: the labor government. It likes to talk a lot about tolerance,
Speaker 11: it likes to talk a lot about diversity and liberalism,
Speaker 11: but actually Kirs Starmer's labor government is pretty authoritarian. That's
Speaker 11: what we're learning only a few weeks into its time
Speaker 11: in office. And just briefly, one other thing that we've
Speaker 11: just discovered they're going to bring in is the use
Speaker 11: of so called non hate crime incidents, which are remarkably
Speaker 11: orwellian things where basically you can get a criminal record
Speaker 11: by not actually doing anything illegal. It's just if you
Speaker 11: say something that somebody else perceives to be offensive. So
Speaker 11: this is again. I think the Land of Carter an
Speaker 11: individual liberty going through a difficult moment.
Speaker 5: Rita, Oh it is sinister, and I do wonder whether
Speaker 5: the Brits know how much of the world's looking at
Speaker 5: them right now. And you've got sick Sir Kiirs Starmer
Speaker 5: railing against the far right again and yet I don't
Speaker 5: know if you can tell us update us. But last
Speaker 5: I checked, nothing said about the notting Hill Carnival where
Speaker 5: hundreds were arrested, multiple people stabbed, and yet he's still
Speaker 5: focused on those rights that broke out after the tragic
Speaker 5: murder of those three little girls.
Speaker 11: I was very disappointed with Kir Starmer's speech, is I
Speaker 11: think a lot of people were. We should also just no,
Speaker 11: this isn't my opinion. In the leadership ratings in all
Speaker 11: of our national polls, he's down by about thirty points
Speaker 11: since coming into power. I mean, this guy is quickly
Speaker 11: becoming one of the most unpopular prime ministers that we've
Speaker 11: had in a long time. In fact, as I'm talking
Speaker 11: to you, only a couple of hours ago, we had
Speaker 11: a new poll out this evening showing that compared to
Speaker 11: when Labour won the election at the beginning of July,
Speaker 11: Kirstarmer's ratings are down thirty six points, so people really
Speaker 11: haven't called to him at all. He's now minus thirteen,
Speaker 11: which I guess if you don't know what that means,
Speaker 11: he's not too far off what we'd call Prince Harry territory.
Speaker 1: Point.
Speaker 6: They are like, what.
Speaker 11: Was remarkable about the speech this week, you know, is
Speaker 11: he kind of doubled down on what we saw during
Speaker 11: those riots and protests over immigration. He just basically said
Speaker 11: half the country is far right and they're Nazis, and
Speaker 11: I'm not interested in acknowledging what they're concerned about. I'm
Speaker 11: not going to talk about the small boats, which again
Speaker 11: have now passed twenty thousand illegal migrant crossings this year alone.
Speaker 11: That's up three percent on last year. He didn't talk
Speaker 11: about net migration, he didn't talk about criminality. And here
Speaker 11: we are with the Notting Hill Carnival are celebrated by
Speaker 11: labor politicians because it's a symbol of diversity. We've got
Speaker 11: two people dead in the streets, two people who have
Speaker 11: died because of stabbings at that event, physical assaults. It's
Speaker 11: a controversial point, maybe, but more people died at the
Speaker 11: Notting Hill Carnival apparently celebrating diversity than died during the
Speaker 11: immigration protests. Nobody to my knowledge actually died during those protests.
Speaker 11: So again, this notion of two tier Britain, this notion
Speaker 11: of different groups and different events being treated differently according
Speaker 11: to the politics, is really now ringing loudly across the country.
Speaker 8: James, and I mean, just so many bizarre stories coming
Speaker 8: out about the Starmer regime. When I'm using the regime
Speaker 8: regime here deliberately, even the fact that they have removed
Speaker 8: a portrait of Margaret Thatcher from ten Downing Street, this
Speaker 8: sounds absolutely bizarre to me.
Speaker 11: Well, it's no secret that many people on the left
Speaker 11: have a very strong dislike of Margaret Thatcher. Though what
Speaker 11: is interesting is that picture, the portrait was actually put
Speaker 11: up I think I'm right in saying by Gordon Brown,
Speaker 11: the Labor Prime Minister, and of course Gordon Brown invited
Speaker 11: Margaret Thatcher to number ten Downing Street. And I think
Speaker 11: actually what you're seeing is something of a changing of
Speaker 11: the guard on the left, a new more intolerant, authoritarian
Speaker 11: left party than perhaps what it used to be. The
Speaker 11: other story this week that's really annoyed people is a
Speaker 11: Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rainer being seen clubbing in Ibtha,
Speaker 11: which it costs two hundred euros to get into and
Speaker 11: twenty or thirty euros for a drink, while laborer presiding
Speaker 11: over pretty sweeping cuts to pensioner's fuel allowance this winter.
Speaker 11: So that's gone down like a lead balloon as well.
Speaker 11: This is the Labor Party not thinking about the optics.
Speaker 2: And also, Matt, you've got the two you mentioned two
Speaker 2: tier of Britain. Well, this awful story about the MP
Speaker 2: Jess Phillips saying that she got kind of fast stream
Speaker 2: you know, streamlined or fast service or whatever at the
Speaker 2: NHS when the when the Palestinian doctor there at the
Speaker 2: NHS recognized her and said, oh I approved of your
Speaker 2: ceasefire comments in Parliament, so you kind of get you
Speaker 2: get shown the better superior service. That seems to be
Speaker 2: the gist of the debate there or the discussion there.
Speaker 1: How tell us the story this is.
Speaker 11: This, Yeah, this is an outrageous story. And when I
Speaker 11: first read it, to be honest, I didn't believe it
Speaker 11: and I sort of dropped it onto Twitter or x
Speaker 11: and I mean it went viral immediately, because what's so
Speaker 11: important about this story, is it really strikes at the
Speaker 11: cord the core of this notion of a universal healthcare
Speaker 11: system that treats everybody fairly and equally. Actually, what we
Speaker 11: see here as a labor politician openly admitting that she
Speaker 11: was given preferential treatment because of her position with regard
Speaker 11: to the Israel Galza conflict. And this is again an
Speaker 11: example of where public institutions are clearly being politicized to
Speaker 11: some extent. We've had the debate over the police treating
Speaker 11: Black Lives Matter protesters much more positively than the immigration protesters.
Speaker 11: And now we've got the National Health Service the closest,
Speaker 11: of course, we've got to a national religion, some would say,
Speaker 11: being seen to treat labor politicians more favorably. So they
Speaker 11: would make no mistake. There is going to be a
Speaker 11: national investigation into this incident. That particular doctor is I
Speaker 11: would suspect is going to be struck off. Let's see.
Speaker 11: But this is again alarmingly chilling. But we you know,
Speaker 11: nobody really wants to vocalize this in the UK. But
Speaker 11: what we have basically is sectarianism. We have sectarianism along
Speaker 11: racial and religious lines. We've seen it in the recent
Speaker 11: general election, five Muslim politicians elected in predominantly Muslim areas
Speaker 11: against the Labor Party, and now we've got sectarianism. It
Speaker 11: appears in some of our public institutions. We don't want this.
Speaker 11: We're not South Africa with the United Kingdom. We don't
Speaker 11: want any of the tribal allegiances being brought into our
Speaker 11: public institutions.
Speaker 2: Well, Matt Goodwin, let's roll on the next British election
Speaker 2: when I want to see Nigel Farage in number ten
Speaker 2: and I know that the first thing he will do
Speaker 2: after he's had the cigarette and the pint outside is
Speaker 2: put that portrait of Maggie Thatcher back up on the
Speaker 2: wall where it belongs. Thank you, Matt Goodwin, always great.
Speaker 1: To chat to you. Coming up, we're going to take
Speaker 1: a short break after that Rader's Reality check.
Speaker 2: Plus we're going to speak to the musician yah Ron.
Speaker 1: Hallis about the backlash.
Speaker 2: He's getting for his upcoming event celebrating Lenard Cohen in
Speaker 2: a tich.
Speaker 5: You're watching Outsiders with your host Rowan divisive Dean James,
Speaker 5: dangerous moronum rita patter here. Soon we'll be delving into
Speaker 5: the wacky world of academia. But first, let's take a
Speaker 5: minute and look at how Peter Dutton has succeeded in
Speaker 5: taking strong principal conservative physicians that speak to the Australian electorate.
Speaker 5: And that's got the Albanese government rattled and it shows
Speaker 5: several poor poll results and a drubbing in the anti
Speaker 5: election last weekend has the Labor government lashing out in
Speaker 5: an increasingly nasty fashion. You see, Labor as decided that
Speaker 5: the best way to deal with the serious issues afflicting
Speaker 5: the country, from cost of living crisis to the gars
Speaker 5: of visa feror to suicidely stupid energy policies saddling households
Speaker 5: and businesses with crippling bills, for the best way to
Speaker 5: deal with that is to attack Peter Dutton. It's usually
Speaker 5: opposition leaders who are accused of being overly negative and
Speaker 5: impermanent attack mode, but Labor has flipped the playbook and
Speaker 5: is targeting Dutton as if he's the Prime Minister Treasury.
Speaker 5: Jim Chalmer's attack against Dutton was a particularly shrill that
Speaker 5: happened earlier this week and he launched into this diet tribe.
Speaker 12: Leadership, which is destructive and divisive, is not really leadership
Speaker 12: at all.
Speaker 1: And that brings me to Peter Dutton.
Speaker 6: He is the.
Speaker 5: Most divisive leader of a major political party.
Speaker 6: In Australia's modern history, and not by accident, but by choice.
Speaker 1: It's the only plank in his political platform.
Speaker 2: He divides deliberately, almost pathologically, particularly and this is worse
Speaker 2: than disappointing.
Speaker 1: It's dangerous. His device iveness should be to score.
Speaker 5: Poor Peter Dutton dangerous and the most divisive leader in
Speaker 5: modern Australia is not just hyperbole but stinks of desperation
Speaker 5: and delusion. Polls show that despite the consistently harsh treatment
Speaker 5: Dutton receives from the bulk of the mainstream media, he
Speaker 5: is cutting through on consequential issues from the economy to
Speaker 5: national security and also cultural issues. And it's a little
Speaker 5: bit rich for Jim Chalmers or anyone on the left
Speaker 5: to call the Liberal leader divisive when it was Labor
Speaker 5: who tried to enshrine racial division into the Australian constitution.
Speaker 5: Far from being the sensible centrists they claim to be
Speaker 5: before the election, the Other and Easy government has proven
Speaker 5: to be radically left and willing to back reckless, irrational policies.
Speaker 3: But their media mates can always be relied upon to back.
Speaker 5: The cause and excuse the increasingly nasty attacks against Dutton.
Speaker 5: To this take from the ABC's Laura Tingle, she wrote,
Speaker 5: chalmers outburst reflected a growing frustration within the government that
Speaker 5: Dutan is hogging most of the airtime with populist appeals
Speaker 5: to people's concerns about migration and national security which don't
Speaker 5: necessarily make any policy sense. Say what now, the chief
Speaker 5: political correspondent Tingle thinks having a sensible energy and population
Speaker 5: policy and perhaps I don't know, not allowing thousands of
Speaker 5: people into the country who may have sympathies to her
Speaker 5: mass is just a populist appeal that makes no policy sense.
Speaker 5: If the Albanezi government keeps listening to their far left
Speaker 5: media mates, they'll be voted out the next election, but
Speaker 5: not before inflecting enormous damage on the country. And before
Speaker 5: we wrap this up, can we just take a moment
Speaker 5: and marvel at just how putrid, utterly putrid, the US
Speaker 5: media has become. In their desperation to damage Donald Trump.
Speaker 5: They have sunk to Newlow's this week, attacking Trump for
Speaker 5: taking videos and posing for photos with gold Star families
Speaker 5: at Arlington National Cemetery. They in effect attacked grieving families
Speaker 5: here in their attempt to smear Trump. The facts are
Speaker 5: that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were not at Arlington
Speaker 5: National Cemetery to honor the thirteen service members who were
Speaker 5: killed that botched withdrawal from Afghanistan. Biden was at the beach,
Speaker 5: Kamala had no public events and she didn't show up. Now,
Speaker 5: they failed to reach out to these families. But Trump
Speaker 5: has been there and he was there to honor the
Speaker 5: fallen servicemen and women.
Speaker 6: Who sord oh.
Speaker 5: But that saw the media go into full attack mode
Speaker 5: because President Trump post for pictures with the gold Staff
Speaker 5: families and that apparently politicized Arlington National Cemetery, which has,
Speaker 5: by the way, featured in a number of Biden Harris
Speaker 5: videos and campaigns. So let's have a look at a
Speaker 5: little bit of the media.
Speaker 13: Meltdown which is being criticized for bringing politics into the
Speaker 13: hollowed ground of Arlington, specifically for video and photographs of
Speaker 13: the former president leanareeth in honor of service members killed
Speaker 13: in Afghanistan and posing with family members among the headstones,
Speaker 13: giving a thumbs up.
Speaker 14: Anniversary of the death of some American service members in
Speaker 14: Afghanistan as part of the evacuation effort there three years ago.
Speaker 14: They're trying to make that a major problem for the
Speaker 14: Biden Harris administration in the context of this campaign. But
Speaker 14: I know a lot of military veterans were very uncomfortable
Speaker 14: with the idea that Trump was there at all, and
Speaker 14: that he even at one point posed for a photograph
Speaker 14: with family members with a big smile and thumbs up
Speaker 14: on their face. Now we should note some of the
Speaker 14: family members were doing the same, but that's their right.
Speaker 14: Donald Trump seemingly very strange that he would do the same.
Speaker 4: So I looked at the same pictures that you're alluding
Speaker 4: to now and describing at Arlington, taken with the pros
Speaker 4: former president, and the thought rolled immediately through my mind
Speaker 4: is nothing sacred?
Speaker 3: Is nothing sacred? Indeed, your contemptible dirt bags.
Speaker 5: Just how much too, Lowa, will you stoop in trying
Speaker 5: to drop up Kamala Harris? The disgusting antics of the
Speaker 5: media what should have been a solemn occasion. So gold
Speaker 5: Star families, grieving families having to.
Speaker 3: Address the issue and correct the record.
Speaker 5: Here is a mother having to defend how she grieved
Speaker 5: for her son Taylor and why the families wanted Trump there.
Speaker 15: Kelly Barnett invited the former president. Her son, Marine staff
Speaker 15: Sergeant Taylor Hoover died at Abby Gate. What would you
Speaker 15: say to people who maybe pro Trump, anti Trump, whatever
Speaker 15: their politics might be, who just feel like that's not
Speaker 15: a place for politicians or for politics.
Speaker 16: I would have to say, are you in my shoes?
Speaker 1: I invited him.
Speaker 16: My son was murdered under the Biden Harris administration.
Speaker 5: I've said it before and I'll say it again. You
Speaker 5: don't hate the leftist media enough. You think you do,
Speaker 5: but trust me, you die.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. Thank you, Reta.
Speaker 2: But I was a little bit puzzled by your pronunciation there.
Speaker 1: It's hyperbole.
Speaker 5: Oh of course, Sorry, sorry, Julia, hyperbole.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I was.
Speaker 1: Honestly.
Speaker 2: Now joining us Nan Now, here's a treat for you,
Speaker 2: monsieur band leader. Yeah, Ron Harris now Tallas now, Jaron
Speaker 2: wanted to get you here this morning.
Speaker 1: You're putting on a Leonard Cohen tribute.
Speaker 2: Well, a huge fan Leonard Cohen here, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: many Australian outsiders viewers certainly are. You're putting on this
Speaker 2: tribute and you've got some great people, Deborah Conway, who's sensational,
Speaker 2: Abby Dobson, who is fantastic, yourself, your team.
Speaker 1: But you've already had because Deborah.
Speaker 2: Conway is involved, You've already had the usual complaints.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a Zionist thing. Why have you got zionist on?
Speaker 1: So tell us about it, tell us about.
Speaker 2: The co concert, but also what resistance you've had as
Speaker 2: a Jewish artist.
Speaker 17: Well, we're celebrating Cohen's ninetieth birthday at the State Theater
Speaker 17: and have put together an incredible lineup of some nineteen musicians,
Speaker 17: including also a fifty piece choir, a Mongolian throat singer
Speaker 17: who will also be playing Mongolian hosshair fiddle, a Greek
Speaker 17: bazooki player, a Mexican harpist. So musically speaking, it's a
Speaker 17: very colorful affair. And of course Deborah Conway is headlining
Speaker 17: amongst all the other amazing and.
Speaker 1: Her husband Willie brilliant.
Speaker 17: And the moment that we announced her inclusion it started.
Speaker 17: I started getting the hate mail, people writing going, we
Speaker 17: would have come, we would have booked, but there's no
Speaker 17: way we'll be in the same room as that genocide
Speaker 17: apologists and such things, And it just went from there,
Speaker 17: basically people writing going, are you aware that she's a Zionist?
Speaker 17: You know, as if that's a terrible dirty word, But
Speaker 17: do they know what that means?
Speaker 3: Do they realize? Because it has become a slur.
Speaker 17: Exactly, It's become a slur rather than simply meaning that,
Speaker 17: you know, it's Israel's right to exist, it's about the
Speaker 17: Jewish people having a homeland. It's now become almost akin
Speaker 17: to accusing someone of being a Nazi something like that.
Speaker 17: So it just has been extraordinary, this outpouring of hate.
Speaker 17: And of course it's not restricted to our show. Every
Speaker 17: time she promotes one of her own shows, we see
Speaker 17: it on social media.
Speaker 1: Just this pack attack.
Speaker 17: She's been so widely misquoted and taken out of context
Speaker 17: with everything that she said. So it's even got to
Speaker 17: the point where people have suggested that there may be
Speaker 17: demonstrations on the night of the concert because people need
Speaker 17: to voice their utter disgust that we've included somebody that
Speaker 17: they consider full of hate. And I hasten to add
Speaker 17: that we would never have on stage with us a
Speaker 17: musician that hates in their heart. It absolutely is contradicts
Speaker 17: everything about the music that we're making and the Spiritual
Speaker 17: Show and everything.
Speaker 2: Else, and of course Lennon Cohen himself famously Jewish, great.
Speaker 1: Talent, one of the great talents.
Speaker 2: You know, what is disturbing here is, as you say,
Speaker 2: other people within the arts community. Now we've heard this
Speaker 2: criticizing you and saying, oh, I wouldn't be involved in us.
Speaker 2: We've heard this week of more people within the Jewish
Speaker 2: community saying that's it. I've had enough of funding these
Speaker 2: arts events that are so overtly pro Palestinian. So you
Speaker 2: have people on the stage with a Palestinian flag or
Speaker 2: a kef You are making chance about Palestine, and that
Speaker 2: they seem to accept that, and so quite rightly, you
Speaker 2: have Jewish donors saying, you know, we're going to take
Speaker 2: our money away from that. They should be doing more
Speaker 2: of that. But what I want to see is more
Speaker 2: people sponsoring and coming to shows like yours, where you
Speaker 2: are celebrating a great Jewish talent who is proudly Jewish.
Speaker 1: You're celebrating that. We want more people to go and attend.
Speaker 2: Your show, and also other shows where Jewish artists are
Speaker 2: to the four Zionists, whatever you want to call them,
Speaker 2: but Jewish artists are to the four celebrating Jewish culture
Speaker 2: and Jewish artistic genius.
Speaker 1: That's what I would like to say.
Speaker 17: Wonderful. It's never been a scarier time in this country
Speaker 17: to be Jewish and to be out there as somebody
Speaker 17: who's Jewish, so to as you say, to be celebrating
Speaker 17: the legacy of such an extraordinary Jewish you know, the
Speaker 17: great Jewish songwriter and poet of our times in a
Speaker 17: major Sydney theater with the Jewish Choral Society included, and
Speaker 17: several other Jewish artists amongst other artists that may have
Speaker 17: completely different opinions about what's happening in the Middle East.
Speaker 17: The point is it's about music uniting everybody. As Cohen
Speaker 17: himself said, love is the only engine of survival, and
Speaker 17: never a truer word was spoken.
Speaker 1: James, well, how much.
Speaker 8: Of this I mean? You know, we talk about these
Speaker 8: people saying a Sadi Zionist, but then now you're speaking
Speaker 8: about Jewish musicians, Jewish arts, Jewish culture, and we all
Speaker 8: know the huge contribution that Jewish life has made to
Speaker 8: the musical world. How much of this really is not antisionism,
Speaker 8: but in fact is at its heart antisemitic hatred.
Speaker 17: That line has become so very blurred. It's it's I
Speaker 17: guess you know, it's the most acceptable kind of woke
Speaker 17: reality now to be able to say, oh, I'm not
Speaker 17: anti Semitic, I'm just anti Zionist. Whereas if there's this
Speaker 17: disproportionate picking on one particular country at the expense of
Speaker 17: all the other horrible human rights violations happening around the
Speaker 17: world and the most terrible situations globally, and Israel has
Speaker 17: picked on almost to the exclusion of any of these
Speaker 17: other countries, then surely it's entering the realm of anti Semitism.
Speaker 8: I've been thinking about it, like if a Chinese, for example,
Speaker 8: billionaire had donated money to an arts organization, they wouldn't
Speaker 8: be pressured to withdraw because of the Chinese government's humans.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's always Israel held to a different standard.
Speaker 5: We know that we've had the impact of the doxing
Speaker 5: of hundreds of Jewish creatives and artists. What's been the
Speaker 5: fallout from that, because I know people who had to
Speaker 5: move their businesses, they were worried about their kids', threats
Speaker 5: were made against their children. Has that at least ceased
Speaker 5: or is that hostility ongoing we're just not reporting on
Speaker 5: it in the newspapers.
Speaker 17: Hopefully it's abated somewhat, but you know, it's still a
Speaker 17: very difficult climate to be out there as a Jewish artist.
Speaker 17: I've never defined myself that way. I'm a musician singing
Speaker 17: on stage. If I want to sing havan Aguilla at
Speaker 17: a music festival or a pub, I don't feel like
Speaker 17: I have to say, look, you know, I grew up
Speaker 17: with a song and make excuses for the fact that
Speaker 17: it's something I want to sing. I just want to
Speaker 17: sing it because it's uplifting and exciting and moves any audience,
Speaker 17: irrespective of their background. And I think that's very important
Speaker 17: to be making art. And it just so happens that
Speaker 17: I'm Jewish making art in the postry.
Speaker 2: I think absolutely erin, but I think it goes further
Speaker 2: than that. I think if you look at you know,
Speaker 2: over certainly the last century or so, Jewish talent in music,
Speaker 2: in comedy, in cinema, in writing, in so painting, so
Speaker 2: many areas is to be celebrated in its own right
Speaker 2: because it's right up there the most extraordinary works of
Speaker 2: art in so many ways.
Speaker 1: So I get disturbed, particularly.
Speaker 2: When I'm thinking of younger people, so teenagers today and
Speaker 2: so on, Jewish kids who might now feel or I
Speaker 2: don't want to mention I'm Jewish, or don't want to
Speaker 2: where the star of David or whatever it might be
Speaker 2: that they would have done a year or so ago
Speaker 2: quite proudly. What's your message, because I get nervous that
Speaker 2: these kids are kind of being forgotten and kind of,
Speaker 2: I guess, shying away into the shadows, whereas we need
Speaker 2: Jewish kids to be proud and out there and supporting
Speaker 2: their culture and their heritage. What's your message to those
Speaker 2: talented young Jewish kids coming through.
Speaker 17: I feel the need to paraphrase Leonard himself his great
Speaker 17: line that there's a crack in everything and that's how
Speaker 17: the light gets in. And I feel like this is
Speaker 17: what needs to be embraced. We need to be proud
Speaker 17: of who we are, what we are. Some Jewish people
Speaker 17: are extremely supportive of the Israeli government. Some are appalled
Speaker 17: by the Israeli government. There's always going to be diversity
Speaker 17: of thought. But when there is a diversity of thought,
Speaker 17: it needs to be discussed, it needs to be accepted
Speaker 17: rather than vilified. And that is so extremely crucial in
Speaker 17: this incredibly troubling times.
Speaker 2: Fantastic yarn and the celebration for Leonard Cohen. How can
Speaker 2: people get tickets?
Speaker 17: Jump on the State Theater website, that would be the
Speaker 17: best way to do it and come and celebrate the
Speaker 17: incredible legacy of this amazing poet and musician.
Speaker 2: Fantastic Yeah, Eron Hallis, thank you so much, Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for how there you go, State Theater After
Speaker 2: the break net zany lefty lunacy, so much more coming
Speaker 2: up here on Outsiders Cagnity. You're watching Outsiders and thank
Speaker 2: you so much for watching us every Sunday morning. We
Speaker 2: certainly do appreciate being with you and having you with
Speaker 2: us well. As we've commented on the show before, Australia's
Speaker 2: amazing performance at the paras Olympics. It's a great deal
Speaker 2: to the generosity of mining magnate Gina Reinhart, who since
Speaker 2: twenty twelve has poured tens of millions of dollars into
Speaker 2: directly sponsoring individual Australian athletes and their coaches and bypassing
Speaker 2: the legions of taxpayer funded sporting bureaucrats, sporting bodies and
Speaker 2: all their bloated boards with their snouts and the taxpayer truff.
Speaker 5: Indeed, Missus Reinhart suggests that that quote, I think we
Speaker 5: should learn from Europe, where countries have decided to cut
Speaker 5: the expenditure of the sports bodies and make better use
Speaker 5: of that funding and directing instead to athletes and coaches.
Speaker 8: And as a result, Usus Ryanhart has clearly been enormously successful.
Speaker 8: I mean that metal tally speaks for itself. Our best
Speaker 8: Olympics ever. So of course, as soon as you can
Speaker 8: say triple bi bike with a backflip elbow jumped into
Speaker 8: the fray offering up four hundred and eighty nine million
Speaker 8: dollars of you're in my money.
Speaker 10: The bottom line is I want to set up our
Speaker 10: youngest Australians for success at our own Olympic Games in
Speaker 10: Brisbane in two thousand and thirty two.
Speaker 18: I think the recent announcement by the federal government was
Speaker 18: absolutely amazing. It was a historical investment in high performance sports.
Speaker 18: I'd like to say us do one better than.
Speaker 3: Paris, do better than Paris.
Speaker 5: Okay, but what about Missus Reinhart's contribution and commitment.
Speaker 2: Rowing, swimming, artistic swimming and volleyball have all benefited.
Speaker 18: I couldn't be more trash and I think that's that's
Speaker 18: fantastic that we're having to be wanting to invest in
Speaker 18: our high performance programs. But absolutely the biggest contributor to
Speaker 18: the performance in Paris was the Australian taxpayer.
Speaker 2: Really, I guess that depends on how many millions of
Speaker 2: those taxpayer dollars actually go to helping the athletes and
Speaker 2: their coaches, as missus Ryanhart's money does, or how much
Speaker 2: will be spent on the first class trips and the
Speaker 2: mouth watering meals and the lavish lifestyles of those lucky
Speaker 2: enough to be an Australian Olympians, sporting bureaucrats, net Zaney,
Speaker 2: the insane world of net zero policies. Well, Trump has
Speaker 2: come out against ev mandates.
Speaker 1: Have a listen here.
Speaker 2: We cannot allow the federal government to put mandates on
Speaker 2: the auto industry to build electric vehicles when the consumers
Speaker 2: do not want.
Speaker 5: RITA good news because this is one of the I
Speaker 5: don't know dozens of backflips that Kamala seems to be
Speaker 5: performing at the moment because she's not for mandates, She's.
Speaker 3: Not for any man.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know how many other areas she
Speaker 5: can do a backflip.
Speaker 3: She now wants the border ball. She's for fracking.
Speaker 5: Suddenly, she's a tough law and order figure suddenly, and
Speaker 5: after what she did in California, James, who is the
Speaker 5: real Kamala?
Speaker 8: Well, we know who the real Kamala is. We know
Speaker 8: and we're actually after the next hour we're going to
Speaker 8: talk about exactly who she is. And we've got a
Speaker 8: lot of evidence about that. But you know, the ev
Speaker 8: thing and what the gentleman was saying there on the
Speaker 8: screen about people not wanting them, you know. Jemma Tagnini
Speaker 8: had a great piece in The Australia this weekend and
Speaker 8: she talked about she is a former and reformed tesla
Speaker 8: owner and she writes this great piece about getting rid
Speaker 8: of her tesla. At how good it felt to get
Speaker 8: rid of this thing, to finally rep it with an
Speaker 8: internal combustion engine automobile, because she spent her entire life
Speaker 8: worrying about rage, trying to charge it, not being able
Speaker 8: to go to visit friends, so of the Highlands of
Speaker 8: New South Wales, or because she was tethered to this tesla.
Speaker 8: It's a great piece that shows exactly what happens when
Speaker 8: people fall for the spin on this.
Speaker 2: Well, also, we've had you know, reaching our targets.
Speaker 1: We've now got you.
Speaker 2: Know, it's now known that we're not going to reach
Speaker 2: any of these targets that Bowen has set. So we're
Speaker 2: pushing the whole of our economy into this net zero
Speaker 2: madness at the same time as we know that, for example,
Speaker 2: the reduction of emissions has flatlined recently over the last
Speaker 2: few years. So where we're completely going down a dead end,
Speaker 2: a cul des academic economic cul de sac, which will
Speaker 2: cost us a fortune and which will never do anything
Speaker 2: that they say it will do. We'll take a short
Speaker 2: break coming back, doctor Gillians Spencer. Lots more happening here
Speaker 2: on Outsiders in a tick. Hello, you're watching Outsiders with
Speaker 2: Rita reconciled with Panahee, James Jabaluga Morrow, and myself Rowan Deane.
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, I spoke about.
Speaker 2: The need for us to ditch the welcomes too and
Speaker 2: the acknowledgments of country. As I said, then, these phrases
Speaker 2: have become quasi religious or political ideology rituals repeated mindlessly
Speaker 2: day after day, like the superstitious chantings of some obscure
Speaker 2: cult or other. The endless repetition out of a specific
Speaker 2: context has stripped these mantras, in my opinion, of whatever
Speaker 2: sentimental meaning they may have once had. The absurdity of
Speaker 2: landing in a modern aircraft on a runway built on
Speaker 2: reclaimed land the two hundred years ago would have been
Speaker 2: fifty meters underwater and acknowledging the traditional custodians is, as
Speaker 2: I say, absurd. What's more, if you do treat these
Speaker 2: words as more than just sloganeering, then the.
Speaker 1: Meaning is at actually pretty disturbing.
Speaker 2: As I said two weeks ago, my family have lived
Speaker 2: on this land for five generations. For the better part
Speaker 2: of two hundred years, my ancestors struggled for this land,
Speaker 2: bled and died for this land, and developed this land
Speaker 2: to feed, clothe, and shelter themselves and many others, including
Speaker 2: many Indigenous Australians. Yet the clear suggestion of the welcome
Speaker 2: to ceremonies is that I and my family are some
Speaker 2: kind of interlopers. They don't really belong here, which makes
Speaker 2: a mockery of our claim to be a great immigrant country.
Speaker 1: How are new.
Speaker 2: Migrants supposed to feel landing here, and the first thing
Speaker 2: they are told is that they will never really belong here,
Speaker 2: they must pay the rent and feel some weird kind
Speaker 2: of race based shame or guilt. As I've also said,
Speaker 2: following the resounding defeat of the Voice, the Coalition should
Speaker 2: go to the next election committing to remove the Aboriginal
Speaker 2: flag and remove welcomes to and remove acknowledgments of country
Speaker 2: from all government organizations and bodies other than for special
Speaker 2: worthwhile select occasions where we genuinely do celebrate our Aboriginal past,
Speaker 2: and if governments begin the process, hopefully Corporate Australia and
Speaker 2: other tiers of government will soon follow. Following my comments
Speaker 2: of Fortnadago, I was inundated by people telling me how
Speaker 2: much they agree with me and hadn't dead speak up. Nurses,
Speaker 2: business people, contractors, everyday Australians from all walks of life,
Speaker 2: including Indigenous Australians, all agreed.
Speaker 1: Very few disagreed.
Speaker 2: Friend of mine texted me from a quantus lounge that
Speaker 2: displays this map of Australia purporting to show all the
Speaker 2: Aboriginal nations in verl commas or countries, given that Aborigines
Speaker 2: did not make maps, and that there are many Aboriginal
Speaker 2: tribes and their descendants who dispute the historical ownership of
Speaker 2: certain areas, I would be a little suspicious of the
Speaker 2: actress of this map. Indeed, we saw again this week
Speaker 2: yet another dispute between two competing Aboriginal groups over which
Speaker 2: one has the right to perform or not to perform
Speaker 2: one of these ceremonies. It's farcical and its demeaning quite frankly,
Speaker 2: but more importantly, when you are an airline and your
Speaker 2: job your sole job is transporting goods and people safely
Speaker 2: and accurately from one specific location to another, I don't
Speaker 2: really see the wisdom of indulging yourself in this sort
Speaker 2: of nonsense. But self indulge they must certainly do, and
Speaker 2: now even offer up destinations using Aboriginal names. Quite what
Speaker 2: New Australians. Yes, that's the term I prefer to use
Speaker 2: to describe recent migrants to this country. It's the term
Speaker 2: I grew up using, and it's how many of my
Speaker 2: migrant friends and neighbors back in the seventies describe themselves.
Speaker 2: So political correctness be damned. New Australians must scratch their
Speaker 2: heads when trying to figure out where on Earth they
Speaker 2: have landed the country with not one flag with two flags,
Speaker 2: and not one name for every location, but two. So
Speaker 2: I was mightily impressed earlier this week to learn that
Speaker 2: I'm not alone from a legal perspective.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: A very brave Melbourne lawyer and Lana Klaris wrote an
Speaker 2: article in The Australian newspaper explaining why she now refuses
Speaker 2: to acknowledge the traditional owners at the Victorian Bar Council meetings.
Speaker 2: As she explained in her article, quote at every meeting,
Speaker 2: the Victorian Bar Council President acknowledges the traditional owners of
Speaker 2: the land on which the meeting is held and pays
Speaker 2: her respects to elders, past, present and emerging. At a
Speaker 2: recent meeting, Lina goes on, I decided to acknowledge all Australians.
Speaker 2: I posted the minutes on social media and was promptly
Speaker 2: labeled a racist, a visitor and an introduced species. I
Speaker 2: was publicly condemned, MMed by two of my fellow Bar
Speaker 2: councilors and was told by the Indigenous Justice Committee that
Speaker 2: I had brought the Victorian Bar into disrepute. No, Lana,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, you certainly had not. But Lana then
Speaker 2: went on to explain her legal reasons for opposing these
Speaker 2: ritualistic mantras, including the term first nations.
Speaker 1: And she made the same point that I.
Speaker 2: Made two weeks ago, the difference being I made it
Speaker 2: from an intuitive, personal opinion point of view, but Lana
Speaker 2: makes it from her legal perspective, and that is why
Speaker 2: her intervention is so crucial now. According to Lana quote,
Speaker 2: the term first nations is wrongly used to strengthen the
Speaker 2: claims of the in inverted commas. Sovereignty was never ceded
Speaker 2: and always was, always will be movement and to give
Speaker 2: some in indigenous people of today who seek to make
Speaker 2: treaties with the States of Australia the appearance of some
Speaker 2: kind of legal standing end of quote, and that, of
Speaker 2: course is the nub of the whole thing. We either
Speaker 2: have the Australian legal system with its property rights, Westminster
Speaker 2: based laws and so on, ought.
Speaker 8: We do not.
Speaker 2: As more and more land is handed over to Aboriginal
Speaker 2: corporations as tourists spots. Popular tourist spots are closed off
Speaker 2: beaches and mountains to the public, as left wing governments
Speaker 2: block important revenue raising projects like gold mines and uranium
Speaker 2: mines on purely cultural heritage grounds. It is increasingly important
Speaker 2: that Australians wake up to what is at stake every
Speaker 2: single time they pay lip service to this notion of
Speaker 2: implicit Aboriginal sovereignty.
Speaker 1: Lana concludes, quote.
Speaker 2: Acknowledgments of country are not about showing respect. They are
Speaker 2: political statements signaling support for a two tiered system.
Speaker 1: Based on race. They have no place in.
Speaker 2: The law, including in our courtrooms, and the average Australian
Speaker 2: instinctively knows this. Now. Lana is correct, and that is
Speaker 2: why over sixty percent of us said no to the
Speaker 2: Voice for those very same reasons. However, there are those
Speaker 2: who disagree clearly, including the aforementioned President of the Victorian
Speaker 2: Bar Council, Georgina Schoff, who wrote a response to Lana
Speaker 2: in the same newspaper, in which she cited the hugely
Speaker 2: controversial Love versus Commonwealth Law case legal case which bizarrely
Speaker 2: found that Aborigines have quote and a essentially spiritual connection
Speaker 2: with country, and that Aborigines have a responsibility to live
Speaker 2: in the tracts of ancestral spirits thereby whatever that means,
Speaker 2: thereby overturning centuries of racial equality before the law, by
Speaker 2: inventing some kind of genetically based spirituality system. Many constitutional experts,
Speaker 2: including the Great James Allen, have roundly condemned the Love
Speaker 2: versus Commonwealth findings that Shoff used as her reference.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: Chris Merrick, the legal correspondent at The Australian, also weighed
Speaker 2: in this week, saying, quote, it's impossible to avoid the
Speaker 2: conclusion that these acknowledgments and the omnipresent welcomes to country
Speaker 2: give effect to the idea that Indigenous people are the
Speaker 2: true sovereigns of this land. Chris Merrit then adds, and
Speaker 2: this is important that quote. Lawyers of all people should
Speaker 2: have known that the doctrines of Aboriginal sovereignty and nationhood
Speaker 2: which underpin these welcomes and acknowledgments have been repeatedly rejected
Speaker 2: by the High Court, and that quote. In nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 2: the Great Native Title case of Marbo number two also
Speaker 2: rejected the notion of Aboriginal sovereignty. Furthermore, according to Justice
Speaker 2: Anthony Mason in nineteen ninety three, the Marbo number two
Speaker 2: decision is equally at odds with the notion that there
Speaker 2: resides in the Aboriginal people a limited kind of sovereignty
Speaker 2: end quote.
Speaker 1: My point is twofold. Firstly, if we want acknowledgments.
Speaker 2: Of country or welcomes to country, they should be meaningful
Speaker 2: and relevant. Perhaps we need one day or week a
Speaker 2: year to celebrate our average history properly, do it properly,
Speaker 2: as we do with the ANNs Axel, religious occasions and
Speaker 2: so on. But that's it once a year once, that's enough,
Speaker 2: not every other day.
Speaker 1: Secondly, as they are currently used.
Speaker 2: Both welcomes to and acknowledgments of country are overtly political
Speaker 2: acts that seek to undermine the rule of law and
Speaker 2: the sovereignty of the Commonwealth of Australia, and must be
Speaker 2: resisted peacefully and politely, but resisted nonetheless. And this should
Speaker 2: be the position of the coalition going into the next election.
Speaker 1: Many people agree with me, the vast majority.
Speaker 2: Of Australians I suspect, judging by the number of people
Speaker 2: who have sent me this sum by the Emily James trio.
Speaker 2: It seems even Ossie Country and Western Stars singers have
Speaker 2: had enough. No welcome me to my.
Speaker 8: Welcome a long and that's need a sale of Morning to.
Speaker 7: Tell me I've belong I am.
Speaker 1: So it's a great song. You can get it online.
Speaker 2: So I would say to everyday Australians, if it's at
Speaker 2: the local bowling club, or the local council, or wherever
Speaker 2: in the boardroom, politely and respectfully, it is time to
Speaker 2: say no to these political mantras and racist ideologies.
Speaker 1: And to refuse to partake in them.
Speaker 2: More importantly, we need the Coalition to show leadership, to
Speaker 2: step up and say the ubiquitous welcomes to and acknowledgments
Speaker 2: and other such meaningless virtue signaling will end within government
Speaker 2: bodies if the Coalition wins the next election.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 2: Doctor Gillian Spencer is a senior child and adolescent psychiatrist
Speaker 2: to a stood down from her job at the Queensland
Speaker 2: Children's Hospital in April twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: We can guess why we know where.
Speaker 2: This is going because she had raised concerns about gender
Speaker 2: interventions for children. She remains suspended, not fired, sixteen months later,
Speaker 2: and there hasn't been any finding of wrongdoing made against her,
Speaker 2: no finding wrongdoing whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Jillian has spoken.
Speaker 2: Out on the issue of harms to children from gender interventions.
Speaker 1: She joins us now.
Speaker 2: Jillian, great to see you. You spoke out last Sunday
Speaker 2: at an event. You were very passionate on the topic,
Speaker 2: love to hear a little bit about your personal what
Speaker 2: I just refer to your personal issues and suspension there
Speaker 2: with the children's hospital, but also I was fascinated by
Speaker 2: comments you made about your teenage boys in this new
Speaker 2: era of gender craziness. But Jillian, just us a little
Speaker 2: bit about where you are with the suspension, what happened
Speaker 2: and how you ended up there.
Speaker 19: Yes, well, I started raising concerns about gender interventions for
Speaker 19: children back in twenty twenty two. I had meetings with
Speaker 19: my bosses at the hospital and I told them that
Speaker 19: I was worried that we were cheerleading children onto a
Speaker 19: pathway of social transition puberty blockers and cross sex hormones.
Speaker 19: And I told them that the risks I was worried
Speaker 19: about were infertility, lack of sexual function, long term physical
Speaker 19: health consequences and the long term risk of distress with regret.
Speaker 19: And so it's currently going through the Queensland Industrial Relations
Speaker 19: Commission for a decision on whether that information that I
Speaker 19: told the hospital is information about a substantial and specific
Speaker 19: risk to public health and safety or to people with
Speaker 19: a disability, and if it is, then I should be
Speaker 19: found a whistleblower, which means that the hospital would have
Speaker 19: to formally investigate my concerns and I would be protected
Speaker 19: from any retaliatory action. So I'm expecting that judgment to
Speaker 19: come through in the next one to two months.
Speaker 1: Fantastic, Okay, Rita.
Speaker 5: I have no idea why they would be suspending you,
Speaker 5: because what you've said is precisely.
Speaker 3: What you've been vindicated.
Speaker 5: We've had the CAST report come out, We've had Scandinavian
Speaker 5: countries rethink the entire philosophy here. Same obviously in the
Speaker 5: UK and much of the US is Australian outlier now
Speaker 5: where we're just blindly following the affirmation model and disregarding
Speaker 5: all the evidence that has come to light in recent years.
Speaker 19: But we certainly are, and it's a terrible situation. It's
Speaker 19: particularly hard for parents at the moment because we've all
Speaker 19: realized that our children are being taught this unscientific idea
Speaker 19: that children can be born in the wrong body, using
Speaker 19: bright colors and under the guise of a anti bullying campaign,
Speaker 19: and we all really want a positive social environment for
Speaker 19: our children in the playground, But what we don't want
Speaker 19: are these dangerous gender ideas being taught to our children.
Speaker 19: Because we know that they'll naturally lead on to some
Speaker 19: children developing gender distress, and those children are at risk
Speaker 19: of being given discredited treatments like gender hormones, and the
Speaker 19: gender ideas seem to have unwanted social consequences like women
Speaker 19: and girls not being able to have protected spaces a
Speaker 19: protected sporting category. But what I think is the hardest
Speaker 19: thing is for parents and for people everywhere is to
Speaker 19: know at what point to resist, because it is so
Speaker 19: easy to say that it's kindness to use preferred pronouns,
Speaker 19: but once you're in this situation of being surrounded by
Speaker 19: people who are using preferred pronouns, it's very difficult to
Speaker 19: put in any boundaries that acknowledge that the person isn't
Speaker 19: actually the opposite set. Yes and social question, yeah, great,
Speaker 19: play along is enormous. Yeah, So I think we do
Speaker 19: have to go back to questioning the use of preferred pronouns.
Speaker 8: One James talk about, you know, in schools, what is happening,
Speaker 8: especially when we hear a lot about sort of girls
Speaker 8: into the dysphoria space, but what's also happening with boys
Speaker 8: and how they navigate issues of gender in the classroom,
Speaker 8: in schools, in society Because it seems like there's a
Speaker 8: lot of overlooked consequences for that's becoming, you know, the
Speaker 8: ecosystem in which they swim.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 19: Well, I think teenage boys are keeping quiet when gender
Speaker 19: ideology has been taught in the classroom. And I never
Speaker 19: would have dreamed that teenage boys wouldn't speak their mind.
Speaker 19: They're much less socially anxious than teenage girls, and they're
Speaker 19: getting these surges of testosterone, so they're often you know,
Speaker 19: jostling for their social position and challenging authority, being irreverent
Speaker 19: and funny, and.
Speaker 20: Those qualities are really.
Speaker 19: Important in group discussions because it means that they're brave
Speaker 19: enough to break the ice and say the unsayable. But
Speaker 19: I don't think discussion is being generally encouraged on the
Speaker 19: topic of gender in the classroom. I think it's being
Speaker 19: taught as if it's just a fact and so. And
Speaker 19: also there's an issue with we're not valuing critical thinking
Speaker 19: and bravery and humor. We seem to be valuing protecting
Speaker 19: people's feelings at all cost. I know it's a balancing act,
Speaker 19: but I think our society will be worse off if
Speaker 19: we don't appreciate teenage boys for being outspoken.
Speaker 2: And Julian you mentioned in your speech last week because
Speaker 2: of the tigle versus giggle case you spoke after that,
Speaker 2: But I was, as I mentioned before, I've really enjoyed
Speaker 2: your comments about your own teenage boys and comparing them
Speaker 2: to when you were a teenager and the way boys,
Speaker 2: ossie boys behaved back then, Queensland boys, I guess. And
Speaker 2: you just mentioned humor as being an example, and you're
Speaker 2: seeing that that whole kind kind of ossie alaric and
Speaker 2: mentality is being sacked from teenage boys.
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
Speaker 6: That's true?
Speaker 19: And I think it's a really hard decision because for parents,
Speaker 19: we've always had the luxury of so far of telling
Speaker 19: our children the truth as we see it and encouraging
Speaker 19: them to.
Speaker 1: Tell the truth.
Speaker 19: I've never been in a situation before where I've had
Speaker 19: to decide whether to tell my kids to play along
Speaker 19: with something untrue for the sake of the law. But
Speaker 19: with this tickle versus giggle decision, that appears to be
Speaker 19: the territory that we're in. And I obviously would much
Speaker 19: rather that adults and parents sought this out out rather
Speaker 19: than children having to deal with it. But oh goodness,
Speaker 19: I are on the side of thinking that it's really
Speaker 19: important to tell the truth. And because I've seen children
Speaker 19: being harmed by gender ideology at the hospital, I see
Speaker 19: it's really important to stand up against that. But I
Speaker 19: think we're all in this dilemma of whether to uphold
Speaker 19: the truth or uphold the law.
Speaker 5: Wow, And this ideology really is taught to children under
Speaker 5: the guise of well, this is just being inclusive, it's
Speaker 5: being tolerant, it's being supportive of people with the different sexualities.
Speaker 3: But of course it goes beyond that.
Speaker 5: And this where at Purple Day, for example, that high
Speaker 5: schools and perhaps even primary schools participating where it's supposed
Speaker 5: to be just about inclusion, but there's posters up about
Speaker 5: pronouns and all this political ideology is.
Speaker 3: Drilled into the children and if.
Speaker 5: They question it, they're basically told, you're being cruel and
Speaker 5: you're being a bigot. What's your advice to parents about
Speaker 5: how to combat that if you see that happening at
Speaker 5: your child's school.
Speaker 3: What can you do to make it known this isn't okay.
Speaker 19: Oh goodness, it's so difficult to resist this. Yeah, I agree, Rita.
Speaker 19: We've just had wear at Purple day on Friday. So
Speaker 19: yet again, all three of my kids have been given
Speaker 19: another dose of unscientific drivel telling them that they might
Speaker 19: be born in the wrong body and that they can
Speaker 19: it's possible for people to change sex. And yeah, the
Speaker 19: teachers seem to be still very keen on pushing kids
Speaker 19: to use preferred pronouns, even though we've recently just had
Speaker 19: the Cast Review which looked at the global research literature
Speaker 19: and decided that it's much better to keep options open
Speaker 19: for children with gender to stress rather than facilitating a
Speaker 19: full social transition. But the good news is is that
Speaker 19: my child' psochitetrist colleagues are telling me that teenagers are
Speaker 19: coming in in droves to their clinic rooms saying that
Speaker 19: they're sick of this gender issue and that they don't
Speaker 19: care about pronouns anymore. So it's definitely going out of fashion,
Speaker 19: but unfortunately we still have some adults who are really
Speaker 19: invested in pushing gender ideology onto children.
Speaker 2: Well, Jillian, thanks so much for coming on and you
Speaker 2: will give a lot of hope and positive role model
Speaker 2: there to many Australian parents. I can guarantee you that
Speaker 2: who will be so relieved to hear that you're speaking
Speaker 2: up and you have your expertise behind you to do so.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for coming on, and good luck with
Speaker 2: your three teenage boys.
Speaker 1: It's a crazy old world out there.
Speaker 2: Thanks Gillian Spencer, Thanks so much for coming on Outsiders.
Speaker 2: After the break, James is don give lots more here
Speaker 2: on Outsiders in a tick.
Speaker 8: Well, Hello and welcome back to the program. You're watching
Speaker 8: Outsiders with Rowan defund the Police, Dean and reader No
Speaker 8: human is illegal Panihy and I'm James. My values are
Speaker 8: unchanged Borrow. And we are now forty eight hours into
Speaker 8: the re reinvention of Carmel Harris in the wake of
Speaker 8: what might very well be the only media interview she
Speaker 8: does between now and the November election, a twenty six minute,
Speaker 8: pre recorded, heavily produced and edited sit down with Dana
Speaker 8: Bash of CNN, who came across like a parent trying
Speaker 8: to let their kid win a chess without making it
Speaker 8: look too much like they were trying to let the
Speaker 8: kid win at chess, because the problem that Kamala, the
Speaker 8: Kamala News Network CNN has is that there are so
Speaker 8: many things Harris has said in the past that contradict
Speaker 8: what she's saying now, and even in this forum, this
Speaker 8: had to be dealt with but gently, even if in
Speaker 8: the process it wound up shredding what was left of
Speaker 8: CNN's journalistic integrity. Take the issue of fracking, which Harris
Speaker 8: has in the past promise to ban but now has
Speaker 8: to support because she needs to win Pennsylvania.
Speaker 16: Do you still want to ban fracking?
Speaker 7: No, And I made that clear on the debate stage
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty that I would not banfracking as vice president,
Speaker 7: I did not banfracking. As president.
Speaker 1: I will not banfracking.
Speaker 16: In twenty nineteen, I believe at a town hall you
Speaker 16: said you were asked, would you commit to implementing a
Speaker 16: federal ban on fracking on your first day in office?
Speaker 16: And you said, there's no question I'm in favor of
Speaker 16: banning fracking.
Speaker 1: So yes.
Speaker 16: So it changed in that campaign in twenty twenty.
Speaker 7: I may very clear where I stand. We are in
Speaker 7: twenty twenty four and I've not changed that position, nor
Speaker 7: will I going forward.
Speaker 8: So something magically happened between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty.
Speaker 8: But let's have a look to see what Harris actually
Speaker 8: said at that townhole in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 7: There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking, so yeah,
Speaker 7: and starting and starting with what we can do on
Speaker 7: day one around public lands, right, and then there has
Speaker 7: to be legislation. But yes, and this is something I've
Speaker 7: taken on in California. I have a history of working
Speaker 7: on this issue.
Speaker 8: Oh how they cheered in the past. She's also said
Speaker 8: that being an illegal migrant wasn't illegal, and this led
Speaker 8: to yet another non answer.
Speaker 16: You raised your hand when asked whether or not the
Speaker 16: border should be decriminalized.
Speaker 1: Do you still believe that?
Speaker 7: I believe there should be consequence. We have laws that
Speaker 7: have to be followed and enforced that address and deal
Speaker 7: with people who cross our border illegally.
Speaker 8: And then there was this question, a follow up question,
Speaker 8: no less about the economy and what Harris would do
Speaker 8: on day one of a Harris administration.
Speaker 16: You have been vice president for three and a half years.
Speaker 16: The steps that you're talking about, now, why haven't you
Speaker 16: done them already?
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, we had to recover as an economy,
Speaker 7: and we have done that. I'm very proud of the
Speaker 7: work that we have done that has brought inflation down
Speaker 7: to less than three percent.
Speaker 8: Dana Bash of course, let it lie there, but a
Speaker 8: great follow up would have been missus Harris matter vice president.
Speaker 8: To be clear, you were bragging about getting inflation down
Speaker 8: to a point where it is still much higher than
Speaker 8: the one point four percent it was when Trump left office. Anyway,
Speaker 8: contrast this very gentle kid gloves treatment that Dana Bash
Speaker 8: gave Kamala Harris with the way Bash dealt with JD
Speaker 8: Vance a little while ago.
Speaker 16: You guys seem to be struggling a little bit. Kamala
Speaker 16: Harris has been calling the shots ays who There's no
Speaker 16: evidence that Kamala Harris threw him overboard, called you and
Speaker 16: Donald Trump, and that is weird. Sure you're saying Tim
Speaker 16: Walls doesn't have affection for his wife. I don't even
Speaker 16: understand that they have done both. They have both policies
Speaker 16: and they are trying to define it. You have been
Speaker 16: on the campaign trail questioning Tim Walls's military record. Governor
Speaker 16: Walls served twenty four years. He even stayed after he
Speaker 16: could have retarded because of nine to eleven more than
Speaker 16: the country asked of him.
Speaker 8: Note the difference. Of course, Bash let Harris off the
Speaker 8: hook with barely any probing follow ups that got to
Speaker 8: the heart of any issue. Yet when she was sitting
Speaker 8: down with JD. Vance, she was in full attack dog
Speaker 8: mode and even parroting the talking points of the Harris campaign.
Speaker 8: But let's go back to Harris and CNN. Throughout that interview,
Speaker 8: Harris had one the focus group tested line. She wanted
Speaker 8: to make sure everyone heard loud and clear.
Speaker 7: The most important and most significant aspect of my policy
Speaker 7: perspective and decisions is my values have not changed. Let's
Speaker 7: be clear. My values have not changed. That value has
Speaker 7: not changed. My value around what we need to do
Speaker 7: to secure our border, that value has not changed.
Speaker 8: Okay, the values have not changed, but what are those values. Well,
Speaker 8: this new ad from the Trump yeh pain, Shed's a
Speaker 8: little light on them.
Speaker 1: My values have non changed. Douce reread meat specifically, Yes,
Speaker 1: Boston Marathon bomber, they should be able to vote. I
Speaker 1: think we should have that conversation.
Speaker 2: Abolish ice, Yes, would you ban offshore drilling?
Speaker 7: Yes, I'm in favor of banning frack. I am prepared
Speaker 7: to pass a greater deal, and I support a mandatory
Speaker 7: buyback program. We're not going to treat people who are
Speaker 7: undocumented cross the borders criminals. The idea that more police
Speaker 7: equals more safety.
Speaker 6: That's just wrong.
Speaker 2: Policing, as we know, goes all the way back to
Speaker 2: slave patrols and that idea. And you are absolutely right,
Speaker 2: where do you stand on defund the police?
Speaker 7: We need to take a look at these budgets.
Speaker 1: Do you ban plastic straws?
Speaker 3: And we'sh a seventy to eighty percent tax rate.
Speaker 7: I think that's fantastic.
Speaker 3: Chipping now to the Minnesota Freedom Funds. How dare we
Speaker 3: speak Merry Christmas?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I am radical.
Speaker 7: I do believe that we need to get radical about
Speaker 7: what we are doing.
Speaker 8: That it's a great voice of work thereby Rita fanta here.
Speaker 8: Well done. But again, if CNN had any integrity, which
Speaker 8: of course we just don't, they would have gone latch
Speaker 8: hard on this and tried to pin down on Harris
Speaker 8: on what she really believes and exposed her as a
Speaker 8: radical California leftist who's into every balker's progressive ideas, from
Speaker 8: open borders to banning plastic straws. But no, they're just suffering,
Speaker 8: I guess, from a case of good old TDS or
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Speaker 2: and he has come out this week. I wrote a
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Speaker 2: on this show.
Speaker 1: Right way back at the beginning.
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Speaker 2: many Democrats would have changed the vote had they known
Speaker 2: of that, Zuckerberg's letter was really really important in that
Speaker 2: he admitted that this he had been pressured by the Democrats,
Speaker 2: by the American government under sorry by the FBI and others,
Speaker 2: under the auspices of Joe Biden and the Democrats to
Speaker 2: suppress knowledge and to suppress information, including during COVID rita.
Speaker 2: This was a pretty extraordinary mayor Kolper, if you like,
Speaker 2: from Mark Zuckerberg. What was going on and how important
Speaker 2: was it?
Speaker 5: Well, it's essentially admitted to collusion big tech with the
Speaker 5: Biden administration other authorities to censor free speech. So it
Speaker 5: ranged from funny memes to information say about COVID which
Speaker 5: was actually factually correct. As we know, the Hunter Biden
Speaker 5: laptop story, which had all sorts of explosive information on
Speaker 5: that laptop about the Biden family's dodgy business dealings. All
Speaker 5: of that was either suppress or band altogether. And we
Speaker 5: know this guy is not some right wing reactionary. He's
Speaker 5: very much of the left. Rowan mentioned he donated an
Speaker 5: enormous amount of his own money in the lead up
Speaker 5: to twenty twenty election. I'm not buying this mere culpa,
Speaker 5: this red pill moment. I think he's just seeing that
Speaker 5: there's a very good chance Donald Trump is going to
Speaker 5: have a second term. Jd Vance is very motivated to
Speaker 5: tackle big tech, and I think he's us running.
Speaker 8: But I mean to marry this.
Speaker 3: Some of this stuff crosses the line, James into criminal.
Speaker 8: So this goes further than that readA. I mean this
Speaker 8: is in this letter, Mark Zuckerberg essentially confessed to election interference.
Speaker 8: He said that that you know, and it also implicates
Speaker 8: the FBI also in election interference. And this is why,
Speaker 8: and you know, I bang on about free speech, but
Speaker 8: without free speech, we are slaves. There is no freedom
Speaker 8: without free speech. And when you look at this letter
Speaker 8: and then you look at what's happening in Brazil now
Speaker 8: where a judge is finding anybody who accesses X through
Speaker 8: a VPN ten thousand dollars a day and has kicked
Speaker 8: the service out of the country on the basis of
Speaker 8: look misinformation. You have a look at it. But here,
Speaker 8: but here's the really important point about this. In the
Speaker 8: US both Kamala Harris and Tim Wall have given statements
Speaker 8: about free speech where they say no, free speech doesn't
Speaker 8: extend to and then they say misinformation, and which is
Speaker 8: the way of saying controlling the narrative. Just watch if
Speaker 8: Harris and Waltz get up, there will be a move
Speaker 8: against Elon Musk and X, just like there is in Brazil.
Speaker 8: Saw the first Amendment, which is so vital, is going
Speaker 8: to be shredded.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw the guy arrested zero of Durov, Pavel
Speaker 2: Durov arrested in France. He was the telegram owner. There's
Speaker 2: this war on social media and rita very disturbingly.
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned the judge.
Speaker 2: Let's just have a quick look at the judge in Brazil.
Speaker 2: He looks like a James Bond villain. Will put him
Speaker 2: up on the screen in the second.
Speaker 1: But bringing it back home to Australia, this is area.
Speaker 2: There's the judge who banned X, who banned.
Speaker 1: Twitter in Brazil. Guy's okay, there you go. But that's
Speaker 1: what we're up against.
Speaker 2: Some dark forces, some might argue, but bring it back
Speaker 2: home to Australia is kitty. This is why the Coalition
Speaker 2: needs to do a very dramatic U turn and get
Speaker 2: against this idea of the E Safety Commissioner, because she
Speaker 2: will head down the same route Albanesi is heaving down.
Speaker 1: Is already headed down. Albanesi and co. They all want
Speaker 1: to do the same thing.
Speaker 2: The left around the world want to suppress free speech
Speaker 2: that James is talking about, and they want to do
Speaker 2: a purely on political grounds to preserve their kind of
Speaker 2: hedgemony over political debate.
Speaker 1: It must be resisted.
Speaker 2: And the losers from what the crusade of people like
Speaker 2: the E Safety Commissioners, the losers are conservatives, make no
Speaker 2: bones about it. So that Peter Dutton and the Coalition
Speaker 2: you better do a handbreak U turn, very very sharpish
Speaker 2: and get on the right track of this story. You
Speaker 2: should be speaking up for free speech and speaking up
Speaker 2: against censorship of social media, against censorship of freedom of thought,
Speaker 2: because otherwise you will lose really important that you do this.
Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break now. After the break,
Speaker 2: it's the Canbra clown Show. In a tick, roll up,
Speaker 2: roll up, step right this way. It's the wackiest show
Speaker 2: on earth. It's the Hello Hello, is that an echo
Speaker 2: I hear over at the ABC.
Speaker 8: Hi, I'm Paul Barry and roll up, roll up. Another
Speaker 8: circ attack is on the way.
Speaker 2: Hi. Yes, it's Paul Barry, my favorite ABC comedian, proving
Speaker 2: as he always does, that imitation is the sincerest form
Speaker 2: of flattery. Thank you, Paul. I am indeed flattered. This week,
Speaker 2: of course, as it does every year, our traveling circus
Speaker 2: traveled all the way to Tuvalu or was it Tonga
Speaker 2: or some other tropical island paradise where the clowns like
Speaker 2: to go every year, armed with buckets of your cash
Speaker 2: to dish out to climate stuff islanders who like to
Speaker 2: stand in a row in the shallows with their trousers
Speaker 2: rolled up every year in preparation for those rising sea levels.
Speaker 2: This year was no different, with everybody's favorite climate clown,
Speaker 2: indeed one of the greatest clowns on the International gravy
Speaker 2: Train circus I mean circuit, who came equipped with all
Speaker 2: his favorite one liners.
Speaker 21: I am in Tonga to issue a Global SOS Save
Speaker 21: our Seas on rising sea levels. Global average sea levels
Speaker 21: a rising at rates and precedented. In the past three
Speaker 21: thousand years, relative sea levels in the south western Pacific
Speaker 21: have risen even more than the global average. Greenose gases
Speaker 21: overwhelmingly generated by burning fossil fuels are cooking or planet.
Speaker 2: Ah yes, cooking our planets even worse than boiling it.
Speaker 21: Apparently, the era of global warming has ended. The the
Speaker 21: hero of global boiling has arrived.
Speaker 8: But has it really?
Speaker 2: According to the climate skeptic blog Joe Nova, which you
Speaker 2: can and must read at Joannova dot com, a new.
Speaker 1: Fiji coral study shows.
Speaker 2: That the Pacific Ocean was almost as warm as it
Speaker 2: is now.
Speaker 1: Six hundred years ago.
Speaker 2: According to the witty Joe Nova quote, some force was
Speaker 2: warming the Earth six hundred.
Speaker 1: Plus years ago, and the experts don't know what it was.
Speaker 2: Then the Earth cooled, and the experts don't know what
Speaker 2: caused that either, though the sun was suspiciously quiet. But
Speaker 2: we're not supposed to mention that the water around Fiji
Speaker 2: started warming in eighteen hundred AD, long before humans invented
Speaker 2: coal power or the model t forward. Meanwhile, while Gutis
Speaker 2: and Poe are warning about cooking or boiling the planet,
Speaker 2: over at the Australian energy market, operator East Coast Aussies
Speaker 2: might have trouble cooking a chook this Christmas quote. Households
Speaker 2: face an ongoing multi year risk of power shortages in
Speaker 2: New South Wales, Victoria and South Australia from this summer,
Speaker 2: with authorities warning that major reliability risks could derail the
Speaker 2: electricity grid unless new energy supplies are urgently developed. Not
Speaker 2: that climate change and energy clown Chris Bowen seems overly
Speaker 2: concerned as he carries on with the reckless net zero
Speaker 2: clown show. However, even Bobo Bowen must be finally catching
Speaker 2: on to the fact that the public are no longer
Speaker 2: interested in a word he.
Speaker 1: Has to say. Because the circus has well and truly left.
Speaker 6: Town happy to take some questions.
Speaker 2: I believe we have a journalists on the phone.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, no generous on the phone?
Speaker 1: All right, no questions? Well in all done, great, thanks
Speaker 1: very much.
Speaker 6: WHOA.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, back at the Tongue and Traveling Circus, Australia's top clown,
Speaker 2: ol Bozo the Generous was handing out the cash and
Speaker 2: then got caught bragging about it on a hot mic
Speaker 2: and landed himself in hot water.
Speaker 1: Not boiling water, mind, just hot water. We're making our
Speaker 1: way through the Pacific.
Speaker 10: You know, we had a cracker today getting the Pacific
Speaker 10: policing in this ship.
Speaker 9: This is a fantastic you think it's so important. It's
Speaker 9: a great and I talked with Kevin about it, so
Speaker 9: you know we were going to do something in the ass.
Speaker 8: It's not too soon. We did not just giving you vowlin.
Speaker 1: The cost if you come on.
Speaker 2: According to the Australian newspaper quote at his press conference,
Speaker 2: mister Albanize he flatly denied that mister Campbell said the
Speaker 2: US was preparing a similar project to the PPI, but
Speaker 2: that Washington held off at the request of mister Rudd.
Speaker 2: He didn't say that. He didn't say that. He did
Speaker 2: not say that. Mister Albanese, he said, what a joke.
Speaker 2: But Alboso wasn't finished clowning around on the taxpayer's dime.
Speaker 2: Here he is performing the classic Benny Hill running late
Speaker 2: for a photo op routine at the Tongan Traveling Circus.
Speaker 2: You're watching outsiders unhappy far day to all the outsiders
Speaker 2: fathers who are.
Speaker 1: There enjoying the show.
Speaker 2: And I hope your kids are sending you lots of
Speaker 2: things or buying you lunch or a beer or whatever
Speaker 2: it might be.
Speaker 1: Now Sydney University, I mean seriously.
Speaker 2: If you are a funder or a donor to Sydney University,
Speaker 2: it's time to take your money and put it somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Here we go.
Speaker 2: We have a Sydney University professor who told first year
Speaker 2: students that the Hamas mass rape and sexual violence of
Speaker 2: October seventh. We've all seen the footage horrific, one of
Speaker 2: the worst atrocities, certainly of this century.
Speaker 1: It was fake news. According to this professor. It was
Speaker 1: a hoax. And James, what has happened to her?
Speaker 8: Well, she's going to avoid anything resembling serious pulishment. Instead,
Speaker 8: an internal investigation has found she breached the university's called conduct.
Speaker 8: But essentially nothing is going to happen to her. And
Speaker 8: this is, you know, the same university. Let's not forget
Speaker 8: where they allowed that disgraceful encampment to go on for
Speaker 8: months and months and months on the quad. When interviewed
Speaker 8: about that, the vice chancellor on TGB said that, well,
Speaker 8: you know, it's a big campus and people can walk
Speaker 8: around the encampment if they don't want to see it.
Speaker 8: It's just another element of just really disgraceful business by
Speaker 8: this university, which you know, at the same time it's
Speaker 8: doing this, is also crying poor over the fact that,
Speaker 8: oh no, we won't be able to mint as many
Speaker 8: degrees for international students.
Speaker 3: As students there used to be.
Speaker 5: Togo had a vote where they refused to condemn a
Speaker 5: mass So this is what the mindset we're talking about.
Speaker 5: And I'd love to see some data from Australian universities
Speaker 5: because in the US they're polling Jewish students and one polls,
Speaker 5: worryingly showed forty four percent of college students said they
Speaker 5: rarely or never feel safe identifying as Jewish on campus,
Speaker 5: So rarely or never almost half.
Speaker 3: So that's really that's ten years ago.
Speaker 5: If you said that, you'd say you'd be crazy, but
Speaker 5: it has we have got to that point.
Speaker 2: We've got the absurdity where there's supposedly an inquiry a
Speaker 2: committee looking into anti semitism at how universities, and oh
Speaker 2: who the Greens are inserted into this particular committee marine.
Speaker 1: Ferruki known for her balanced views on all matters of
Speaker 1: the Middle East.
Speaker 8: Well, not only that she is. In the past she
Speaker 8: has refused to say that Hamas should be dismantled. You
Speaker 8: know so, I mean the.
Speaker 5: ABC, the ABC were alarmed with what that was.
Speaker 3: Hearing that.
Speaker 4: Does Hamas need to be dismantled.
Speaker 3: The Palestinians need to decide where they want to go, So.
Speaker 4: If they choose Hamas, that's okay.
Speaker 1: And what can I say?
Speaker 4: I should have been dismantled.
Speaker 7: Hamas is an organization that exists in the region.
Speaker 2: Sure you're able to say, well, you'd like to see
Speaker 2: them go, and it's not up to me.
Speaker 8: I mean, I love first of all guys. There was
Speaker 8: almost that sort of Kamala Harris. Hamas is an organization
Speaker 8: that exists in the region. I mean that was total.
Speaker 5: Classes absolutely, Oh my gosh, it was when she tried
Speaker 5: to describe the Russian Ukrainian.
Speaker 8: Russia is a country, small country.
Speaker 3: Oh dear me.
Speaker 5: But this is really an insult to It makes a
Speaker 5: mockery of the whole thing. And uh, it's there to
Speaker 5: undermine it, That's what it is. Why would you put her,
Speaker 5: of all people if you want to have someone from
Speaker 5: the Greens in this why her fact Really I struggled
Speaker 5: to think of a Greens MP who would be fixed.
Speaker 8: But this is you know, also, let's not forget here,
Speaker 8: this is really you know what we're seeing here with
Speaker 8: this anti semitism on campus in Australia, around the world,
Speaker 8: the United States, everywhere. You know, we have been talking
Speaker 8: on this program for years about the sickness at the
Speaker 8: heart of academia, you know, the sectarian leftist lunacy. And
Speaker 8: you know it started out as almost sort of a
Speaker 8: joke many years ago. Oh so PC you know this well.
Speaker 8: You know, this is a great example of why you
Speaker 8: have to be interested in culture and the culture wars,
Speaker 8: because when you let this stuff fester, than what you
Speaker 8: wind up with is an explosion of anti Semitism, which
Speaker 8: is always what you see in any society that's got
Speaker 8: a sickness satus herd.
Speaker 2: And this is why Peter Darton has been so important
Speaker 2: as the leader of the Coalition, and this is why
Speaker 2: we need him as the next Prime Minister to simply
Speaker 2: the strength of character on all issues to do with
Speaker 2: the anti anti semitism and designism, whatever you want to
Speaker 2: call it. He has been absolutely a pillar in our
Speaker 2: democracy alone amongst the rest.
Speaker 8: His instincts have been so correct right from the beginning,
Speaker 8: because I think that's he just genuinely gets it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not just his political instincts.
Speaker 5: He's just had moral class one.
Speaker 3: He has not wavered.
Speaker 5: Obviously politically it may be risky because the Muslim population
Speaker 5: in this country is considerably bigger than the Jewish population,
Speaker 5: but he's not thought about that.
Speaker 3: He's thought about what's right for the country moral.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the politics of it all, there is
Speaker 2: a advocacy group Muslim Votes Matter.
Speaker 1: They're meeting today.
Speaker 2: Sadly I had something else on, but you know, if
Speaker 2: you intend visiting this or joining this group to hear
Speaker 2: what they have to say about Muslim votes, this is
Speaker 2: a really important thing because it divides the Western suburb seats.
Speaker 2: It puts at risk the seats of Jason Clair, Chris Bowen,
Speaker 2: Tony Burke, and it explains why the Labor government panders
Speaker 2: so much to the Muslim vote. And as we've seen
Speaker 2: in the UK, it's a very powerful vote when it
Speaker 2: gets its act together.
Speaker 8: Well, I think you know, it was that good about
Speaker 8: you know, sectarianism coming to Britain was spot on, and
Speaker 8: that's the same world we're going to go down here.
Speaker 8: But also I just think that it's so interesting we're
Speaker 8: going to get to watch labor and the Greens, you know,
Speaker 8: who have all been ra rah, diversity rah rah, all
Speaker 8: sorts of other cultures, bring them in here, and now
Speaker 8: they're about to be in a lot of political trouble
Speaker 8: because of a group that disagrees with them on so
Speaker 8: many things about sexuality, gender, all of.
Speaker 2: They gain your point, James, about the importance of the
Speaker 2: fighting the culture wars.
Speaker 1: That culture example, we've.
Speaker 5: Seen overseas one trumps the other. So yes, you've got
Speaker 5: these people who really agree on nothing other than their
Speaker 5: shared hatred of conservatives and the West and Western imperidsm.
Speaker 5: But when you look at the hierarchy of oppression, Islam
Speaker 5: seems to trump the other ones, because we've seen that
Speaker 5: in an number of hurricane because with their beliefs I.
Speaker 1: Believe so held more strongly.
Speaker 2: Now speaking of political beliefs and identity, politics and all
Speaker 2: of that craziness, NASA you think would be the most
Speaker 2: scientific body free from all this garbage. No, of course,
Speaker 2: not have a listen to how wokeness is infused. This
Speaker 2: is a training lesson at NASA, delivered by.
Speaker 1: A diversity person there at NASA. Have a listen to this.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't make you horrified, I don't know what will.
Speaker 12: The idea of power hoarding, the idea of individualism over collectivism,
Speaker 12: quantity over quality, either or thinking, and so all of
Speaker 12: these things can really limit the way we go about
Speaker 12: doing our work, and they can really limit the way
Speaker 12: we are able to connect with communities that come from
Speaker 12: different cultural backgrounds that don't value these things the same
Speaker 12: way that white supremacy culture values them.
Speaker 3: The first word on that list is perfectionism. I would
Speaker 3: have thought you'd want.
Speaker 5: That in space travel, where any little tiny era could
Speaker 5: be catastrophic.
Speaker 3: That's worrying. Thank god, I'm not going to be on
Speaker 3: any sort of rocket ships.
Speaker 8: But Jack, this is you know a note by the
Speaker 8: way that they've got this Boeing starliner that's up there.
Speaker 8: They can't get the ash astronauts off of, you know Boeing.
Speaker 8: Well we've run the problems, so there you go.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go.
Speaker 2: No no perfectionism here signs we don't have perfectionism or
Speaker 2: right or wrong thinking or anything that crack wasn't that great.
Speaker 1: That was a good line.
Speaker 2: Have a great Father's Day, everybody that sit for Outsiders
Speaker 2: this week, We'll see you next Sunday.
Speaker 1: To the Loop.