1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,000 Michael Thompson: Welcome to Ask Fear and Greed, where we answer questions 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,719 Michael Thompson: about business, investing, economics, politics, and more. Are Michael Thompson 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,000 Michael Thompson: and hello, Sean Aylmer. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:11,959 Sean Aylmer: Hello Michael. 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:17,400 Michael Thompson: Sean, today's question is all about investing. Right. What are 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,599 Michael Thompson: the best and worst performing stocks over the last year? 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,320 Michael Thompson: But there's a little bit extra to this. I want 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,920 Michael Thompson: to know about the ones that have plenty of retail shareholders, 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,040 Michael Thompson: plenty of kind of mum and dad investors, the ones 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,880 Michael Thompson: that are, kind of, the household names really, aren't they? 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,234 Sean Aylmer: A very end of financial year question, Michael. Like it. 12 00:00:38,234 --> 00:00:38,800 Michael Thompson: Timely. 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Sean Aylmer: Last financiall year was pretty incredible because I think the 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,560 Sean Aylmer: two most widely held stocks. When you say widely held, 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,159 Sean Aylmer: it means the most number of investors, were two of 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,239 Sean Aylmer: the best performing stocks on the market. That you have 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,120 Sean Aylmer: to be able to guess that, Michael, Otherwise. 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,120 Michael Thompson: I'm assuming Telstra. 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,920 Sean Aylmer: Yeah, yeah, one point one million and eight hundred thousand shareholders. 20 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,560 Sean Aylmer: The relief, the. 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,760 Michael Thompson: Pressure anytime you ask me a question in the studio, 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,120 Michael Thompson: I don't know what it is. Just as my hands 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,679 Michael Thompson: start to sweat, my heart rate goes up. It is 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,040 Michael Thompson: just like being back at school or university. 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,280 Sean Aylmer: So Telstra has got one point one million shareholders. It 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,399 Sean Aylmer: had about one point four million back in two thousand 27 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,880 Sean Aylmer: and six when the final tranche of Telstra was sold. 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,800 Sean Aylmer: Sold over a ten year period in three tranches, you 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,080 Sean Aylmer: actually picked up shares relatively cheap. That's why so many 30 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,920 Sean Aylmer: people have them. Now got one point one million shareholders 31 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,160 Sean Aylmer: and a phenomenal performance over the past twelve months, up 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,280 Sean Aylmer: about thirty percent. Now interesting about Telstra, it's got a 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,520 Sean Aylmer: lot of mum and Dad shareholders, but it's actually got 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,679 Sean Aylmer: some really big shareholder as well. Like the Future Fund 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,640 Sean Aylmer: holds a stack of shares. So that is to stand 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,120 Sean Aylmer: out one in terms of numbers. But I think the 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,280 Sean Aylmer: second largest in terms of the number of investors is 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,120 Sean Aylmer: come Off Bank about eight hundred thousand. It of course 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,720 Sean Aylmer: has had a cracking year up not that far off 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,520 Sean Aylmer: fifty percent. We're spaking a lot about conn Wealth. But 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,920 Sean Aylmer: we don't have to talk about them anymore, do we. 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,080 Michael Thompson: All we know is that they just keep going up 43 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,040 Michael Thompson: and up and up and up. But can I just 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,200 Michael Thompson: ask when you mentioned these, when you say, say eight 45 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,840 Michael Thompson: hundred thousand shareholders, that's not necessarily including then everyone who 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,880 Michael Thompson: perhaps owned Commonwealth Bank shares through their superannuation. 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,320 Sean Aylmer: Right, so mostly I might have my I might have 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,800 Sean Aylmer: Commonwealth Bank shares in my own name, but then my fund, ye, 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,520 Sean Aylmer: my super fund will have it in its name. So 50 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,320 Sean Aylmer: that doesn't I don't get counted twice. 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,200 Michael Thompson: Okay, So but it does mean that there are potentially 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,600 Michael Thompson: a whole lot more people that have invested interest in 53 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,040 Michael Thompson: Commonwealth Bank going well. 54 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,880 Sean Aylmer: Yeah, but that's across the board. The other one, which 55 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,160 Sean Aylmer: is really interesting the last twelve months is Quantas. Quantus 56 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,160 Sean Aylmer: has a lot of shareholders, like it's been really popular 57 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,840 Sean Aylmer: stock over the or different times over the years, up 58 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,519 Sean Aylmer: more than seventy percent. Think about Quantus, which is sort 59 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,200 Sean Aylmer: of interesting. You would think there'd be a bunch of 60 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,600 Sean Aylmer: really big shareholders in that. There's not Pendles big shareholder. 61 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,519 Sean Aylmer: I think it's got about five percent or something or other. 62 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,519 Sean Aylmer: Otherwise there's not like a really dominant player in the 63 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,200 Sean Aylmer: Quantus shareholding, which is interesting. The next one in line, 64 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,600 Sean Aylmer: you have to think about it. This is a test 65 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,400 Sean Aylmer: any thoughts used to be used to be an insurance company? 66 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,360 Sean Aylmer: Used to be well, no, no, it is an insurance company. 67 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,440 Sean Aylmer: I'm giving it away, an't I iog? Yes? One of 68 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:27,440 Sean Aylmer: my badside assistance. 69 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,080 Michael Thompson: Oh good. 70 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,600 Sean Aylmer: Yeah, it's the former NRMA business in New South Wales. 71 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,360 Sean Aylmer: It demutualized from the road service in two thousand and 72 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:40,160 Sean Aylmer: two became IAG. It's probably got about five hundred thousand shareholders. 73 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,800 Sean Aylmer: It is not actually easy to find these numbers. 74 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,320 Michael Thompson: I was going to say, these are they are? They 75 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,520 Michael Thompson: are tricky numbers to actually ascertain, aren't. 76 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,040 Sean Aylmer: Yeah, yeah, totally and they don't. I mean, come off 77 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,400 Sean Aylmer: Bank does and Telstra does, but IAG wasn't easy to find. 78 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,200 Sean Aylmer: Quantus wasn't easy to find. So I'm guessing iog's about 79 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,640 Sean Aylmer: five hundred thousand north of that. They a lot of 80 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,160 Sean Aylmer: the roadside assist members kind of came across and got 81 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,760 Sean Aylmer: shares as part of that. That's why they've got so 82 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,800 Sean Aylmer: many id share price up thirty four percent over the 83 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,440 Sean Aylmer: past twelve months. A bunch of really well performing stocks JB, 84 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,359 Sean Aylmer: High Fi, Brandble Zero not that widely held though, so 85 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:23,200 Sean Aylmer: I would say in order Telstra, Commwealth Bank. I don't 86 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,040 Sean Aylmer: know where nab A and Z and West Packford in 87 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,080 Sean Aylmer: because they're around this as well. But IAG in quantas. 88 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,119 Michael Thompson: Just very quickly because we are running out of time. 89 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,440 Michael Thompson: What about the flip side the stocks that haven't done 90 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,919 Michael Thompson: so well and probably actually also have a pretty significant 91 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,320 Michael Thompson: number of investors who would potentially be quite disappointed. 92 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,200 Sean Aylmer: Yes, look, stand out, there's BHP, probably tops of list 93 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,760 Sean Aylmer: most mums and dads investors that's been disappointed over the 94 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,960 Sean Aylmer: last year. It's share price down about fifteen percent. Another 95 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,839 Sean Aylmer: one which might be a bit of a surprise is 96 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,960 Sean Aylmer: South thirty two, the diversified minor, but that was spun 97 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,000 Sean Aylmer: out of BHP's A lot of BHP shareholders ended up 98 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,839 Sean Aylmer: South thirty two shares, so it's down about twenty percent 99 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,240 Sean Aylmer: out of the past twelve months, so that hasn't done 100 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,920 Sean Aylmer: so well. The other contender is CSL. It's Australia's third 101 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,800 Sean Aylmer: largest company. Doesn't really have the same number of shareholders 102 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,080 Sean Aylmer: as the big banks and minors in Telstra, but it's 103 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Sean Aylmer: been really popular with smaller investors where it was up 104 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,360 Sean Aylmer: until a couple of years ago. Its share prices is 105 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,320 Sean Aylmer: down about twenty percent, so the duds so to speak, 106 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,800 Sean Aylmer: in terms of mums and dads, retail investors, BHP, CSL, 107 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:29,920 Sean Aylmer: South thirty two. 108 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,719 Michael Thompson: It's a very good time to remind everybody that we 109 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,160 Michael Thompson: are not an investing podcast and you should seek professional 110 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,280 Michael Thompson: advice before making investment decisions. It also reminds me, actually, 111 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,320 Michael Thompson: do not let me forget, because I want to ask 112 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,160 Michael Thompson: you in another episode of Ask Fear and Greed about 113 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,640 Michael Thompson: agms annual general meetings, because I mean, they get quite 114 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,440 Michael Thompson: interesting when you've got one point one million shareholders and 115 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,000 Michael Thompson: trying to do. 116 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,320 Sean Aylmer: Those, and I know there was a lot going for 117 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:52,920 Sean Aylmer: the scones. 118 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,120 Michael Thompson: Yeah, indeed, And I want to talk to you then 119 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,600 Michael Thompson: about kind of why it matters, why agms are important, 120 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,880 Michael Thompson: why shareholders should if they can, kind of pay attention 121 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,800 Michael Thompson: to those. But we'll do that on another one. Thank 122 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,480 Michael Thompson: you very much, Sean. 123 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,039 Sean Aylmer: Thanks Michael. 124 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,600 Michael Thompson: If you've got your own question, jump onto the website Fearangreed, 125 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,800 Michael Thompson: dot com dot au send it on through there, any 126 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,400 Michael Thompson: of the social media platforms are Michael Thompson gonna stay 127 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,239 Michael Thompson: Ask Fear and Greed