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Speaker 1: High listeners. As we said in yesterday's episode, there was

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Speaker 1: no jury today in the trial of Aaron Patterson, so

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Speaker 1: there is nothing we can report. But as you may know,

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Speaker 1: we have been running subscriber episodes with my colleague Anthony Dowsley,

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Speaker 1: so we thought we'd give you a sneak peek at

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Speaker 1: Sunday show. The jury has heard all the evidence it

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Speaker 1: will hear in the trial of Aaron Patterson. Now it's

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Speaker 1: up to the prosecution and the defense to close their

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Speaker 1: argument to discuss another week with Aaron on the stand.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by veteran crime reporter Anthony Dowsley. I'm Brook

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Speaker 1: Greebert Craig, and this is the Mushroom Cook. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: dows I'm sure the listeners are very happy to hear

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Speaker 1: your voice for a second episode this week.

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Speaker 2: Brook, It's been a pleasure. We are entering the finish

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Speaker 2: line and all the evidence is done. Yes, we don't

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Speaker 2: have to hear any more evidence after this. We just

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Speaker 2: need to hear a few closing comments and the judge.

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Speaker 1: So Aaron's cross examination finished this week. Can you talk

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Speaker 1: our listeners through what was said?

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Speaker 2: So for anyone who needs any brushing up on the

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Speaker 2: legal system. Aaron goes through what they call her examination

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Speaker 2: in chief, which is her own embarrasster asking her questions,

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Speaker 2: and then you face the prosecutor. In this case, in

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Speaker 2: Nanetta Rogers' sc and doctor Rogers was obviously as the prosecutor,

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Speaker 2: asking tough questions surrounding all of the evidence regarding all

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Speaker 2: of the witnesses that were relevant. And during the cross

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Speaker 2: examination it became a little bit like Aaron Patterson versus

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Speaker 2: their testimony of other witnesses, including her son's testimony. On

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Speaker 2: one or two points, it was versus Ian Wilkinson's testimony

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Speaker 2: and others such as medical staff.

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Speaker 1: So can you talk us through each one of those points?

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Speaker 1: Where did she say that these witnesses were mistaken? Let's

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Speaker 1: start with her son.

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Speaker 2: There were two points to this. Her son had given

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Speaker 2: a record of interview with police in the weeks after

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Speaker 2: July twenty nine, twenty twenty three, so it was in August,

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Speaker 2: and he told police that his mother had drunk coffee

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Speaker 2: the morning after the lunch. That was one of the points.

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Speaker 2: Now Aaron Patterson says she had diarrhea on that day,

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Speaker 2: and diarrhea has become a large part of this case.

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Speaker 2: It has been mentioned probably more than any other case

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Speaker 2: in living memory. So Aaron Patterson says, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I didn't drink coffee that morning. I drank herbal tea,

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Speaker 2: because the suggestion is from then Rogers, you wouldn't drink

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Speaker 2: coffee if you had diarrhea. Now at Rogers has also

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Speaker 2: suggested that Aaron Patterson is lying about a pill she

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Speaker 2: took the morning after the lunch or the day after

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Speaker 2: the lunch. Aaron Patterson says she took emmodium to suppress

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Speaker 2: her the RUMs. She's also suggested she didn't do that,

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Speaker 2: but back to her son's evidence, her son said that

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Speaker 2: they didn't stop at any point on the Sunday after

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Speaker 2: the lunch when he was being driven to flying lessons.

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Speaker 2: He's a budding pilot. In Aaron Patterson's evidence, she said

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Speaker 2: in something most people probably wouldn't want to reveal about themselves,

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Speaker 2: a private moment where she says she stopped the car

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Speaker 2: on the way to Tyab with the flying lessons were

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Speaker 2: going to be taken and she had to go and

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Speaker 2: have a pooh in the bush. That's not in his

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Speaker 2: eviden but she says he's mistaken about that, So that's

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Speaker 2: the sun, the Sun versus Aaron Patterson both their versions

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Speaker 2: of events.

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Speaker 1: Now let's move on to Ian Wilkinson. What did Aaron

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Speaker 1: claim that he was mistaken about.

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Speaker 2: Colored plates? All the colors of those plates. Ian Wilkinson

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Speaker 2: was one of the first few witnesses in this case,

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Speaker 2: and he said that they all ate from gray plates,

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Speaker 2: largish ones, and that Aaron Patterson had a smaller tan

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Speaker 2: or orange plate that she ate from. Now, Aaron Patterson says, no,

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Speaker 2: Ian Wilkinson is incorrect, that she had different colored plates,

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Speaker 2: but they were red and black and she had some

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Speaker 2: white ones and disputed this sort of more simplistic gray

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Speaker 2: or tan plate scenario. So that's the second person she

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Speaker 2: said was incorrect in their evidence.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's move on to Aaron's estranged husband, Simon Patterson.

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Speaker 1: What did Aaron dispute about his testimony?

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Speaker 2: So there is a version of events that Aaron Patterson

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Speaker 2: has discussed in her testimony, and that is about an

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Speaker 2: interaction over the dehydrator that she bought the year of

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Speaker 2: the lunch. Aaron Patterson says that her estranged husband, Simon,

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Speaker 2: had a conversation with her in Monish Hospital in Clayton,

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Speaker 2: and that he said or accused her of asking the

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Speaker 2: question is that the dehydrator that you used to poison

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Speaker 2: my parents. The prosecution have contested this. They say no

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Speaker 2: such discussion took place. The evidence that the courtroom has

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Speaker 2: heard is that after this discussion Aaron Patterson leaves the

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Speaker 2: hospital at some point and drives back to Lean Gatha,

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Speaker 2: gets the dehydrata and dumps it at the nearby tip.

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Speaker 2: So another point where it's erin versus.

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Speaker 1: A witness, and Aaron Patterson also disputed some of the

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Speaker 1: medical experts testimonies.

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Speaker 2: Right, So we heard from doctors and nurses during this

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Speaker 2: trial and one of the points that was raised was

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Speaker 2: that the medical experts, so they told Aaron Patterson that

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Speaker 2: her life was at risk when she turned up at

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Speaker 2: Leangath Hospital on the Monday after the lunch. Aaron Patterson says, no,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't told that. So it's another point of evidence

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Speaker 2: where there's a dispute about the of events that they

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Speaker 2: are recalling.

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