Speaker 1: Apodjake Production. Welcome back to another episode about My Bad
Speaker 1: Mum podcast. We were just chatting just before we hit
Speaker 1: record about food and like adults, like as much we are,
Speaker 1: I would say, almost border on neurotic with our kids
Speaker 1: and eating, like we are all about you haven't finished,
Speaker 1: you haven't had enough. You need to have the goodness,
Speaker 1: eat the vegetables. Like we've talked about this on many episodes.
Speaker 1: Elsie doesn't eat fruit veggie. She's very proud of the
Speaker 1: fact she doesn't eat fruit vegetables. And so you've spent
Speaker 1: years hiding it and hustling it. Yeah, mixed meals. But
Speaker 1: what we realize is that as mums, we forget about ourselves.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Yeah, Like the.
Speaker 1: Amount of time do you make sure your kids have
Speaker 1: got breakfast and they're eating it in the car on
Speaker 1: the way to school or whatever it might be. You
Speaker 1: didn't think about yourself, what you need to eat. You
Speaker 1: forgot to have dinner.
Speaker 3: Yesterday, I genuinely got pulled up by my own daughter.
Speaker 3: There's days where you just like do stuff and then
Speaker 3: you don't actually sort of take it in until you
Speaker 3: say it out aloud. And it was like one of
Speaker 3: those moments, you know, when you just flat and energy,
Speaker 3: you're just not your usual And I was like, I
Speaker 3: just don't feel my best self right now. And she
Speaker 3: turned to me and did what I normally do to them,
Speaker 3: which is, how much water have you had today?
Speaker 2: What have you actually eaten today?
Speaker 3: Mum. I then said out aloud to her, I have
Speaker 3: had two long blacks, a small cross on, and then
Speaker 3: one sushi roll. I just got schooled by my own child.
Speaker 2: But I was so proud of her. At the same time, weird, well.
Speaker 1: Because she's learnt it from you, but you just don't
Speaker 1: do it for yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: But it's so funny because like literally both of them
Speaker 3: come home with their school bags, get your school lunchbox out,
Speaker 3: whatever's in it, you finish it. I'm not wasting the
Speaker 3: food that's in it kind of thing. Both my girls
Speaker 3: know now that's a non negotiable, so they're actually getting
Speaker 3: way better with it. But at the same time, got
Speaker 3: schooled by my ten year old, and she was right.
Speaker 1: The amount of times that I've said to the girls
Speaker 1: I've picked them up from school over the years and
Speaker 1: it's like three p thirty or whatever, and they're like,
Speaker 1: we're so hungry.
Speaker 2: Please, I get it. Every afternoon you're starving.
Speaker 1: When you're starving, I'm about to get you afternoon tea.
Speaker 1: I haven't even had lunch yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Am I a bad mom for throwing a technology tantrum? Oh?
Speaker 1: This isn't me every day. This was me this morning.
Speaker 1: I got so frustrated on my computer. I was like,
Speaker 1: why is it not working?
Speaker 3: I feel like I have probably one of those moments
Speaker 3: on the daily. There'll be something that I'll go just
Speaker 3: don't get it. I just don't understand why is it
Speaker 3: doing this? And you sort of look around like anybody.
Speaker 3: The tip of the iceberg is when the kids know how.
Speaker 2: To fix it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, my kids grab my phone off me and
Speaker 1: like you need to do much. I'm happy to do
Speaker 1: it like that, they say to me. When I go
Speaker 1: to typing Google before I search something, They're like, Mom,
Speaker 1: you don't have to type in Google, you just search it.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, but I like doing that. It's
Speaker 1: the same with the brightness, Like I like to have
Speaker 1: my brightness up full.
Speaker 2: How much abuse do you cop on text message?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I know, And I try and be like quite
Speaker 1: friendly with my text messages, like.
Speaker 2: Give it what's friendly.
Speaker 1: I'll do like the love heart emoji. Yeah, Miley fan.
Speaker 3: But your lovely message and the way that I'm feeling
Speaker 3: when I read it, It's going to be two totally
Speaker 3: different things because of my feelings.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 3: Like for me, I'm like typing away like you'll know
Speaker 3: I'm angry because it'll just come through with like it'll
Speaker 3: be like what the fuck, but it'll be in like capitals,
Speaker 3: and I think we can even emphasize it now to
Speaker 3: make it bigger. So at rattles, so you know that, right,
Speaker 3: yelling yelling, yeah, yelling at you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's funny because they were talking about messages that
Speaker 1: they write and then there was this guy that they
Speaker 1: were talking to and they were like, Mum, He's like
Speaker 1: he just writes this, and I was like, he is
Speaker 1: not putting any thought into it.
Speaker 2: That's why because we.
Speaker 1: Overthink it and we go how are they reading that?
Speaker 1: Like how does that sound? All them? Whereas guys like
Speaker 1: my husband, he would just write something and I'm like
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound very friendly. He's like, it is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, it's that's what I want to say,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, yeah, put a smiley face at the
Speaker 1: end or something just to show that you're being nice,
Speaker 1: You're saying it in a nice way because text are
Speaker 1: so hard to read.
Speaker 3: The text messages are hard to read because your feelings
Speaker 3: are attached to them. I've had this conversation with so
Speaker 3: many times around the way that I send it and
Speaker 3: the way that you read it. My environment's different to
Speaker 3: where you are, like circumstantial, it's different.
Speaker 2: Everything's different. So technically, if you have any shit.
Speaker 3: Day and you're in shit surroundings and I still send
Speaker 3: you a really nice message, you might not take it
Speaker 3: as a nice message because you're like under the pump,
Speaker 3: under pressure, feeling all the feelings, whereas I'm like, over here,
Speaker 3: I'll live me my best life, smiley face, kiss, kiss,
Speaker 3: love you lots.
Speaker 2: And you're like I didn't get that. I didn't feel
Speaker 2: like that, you know, like it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is why people do voice messages.
Speaker 2: We don't voice message.
Speaker 1: No, my girls do all the time. And I do
Speaker 1: have some people.
Speaker 2: Like Luke loves voice messaging.
Speaker 1: That voice message, and so I have voice message back.
Speaker 1: But I overthink it, right, I'm not somebody that's like
Speaker 1: in my car going hey, blah blah blah blah, whatever
Speaker 1: the message is. I'm someone that goes, okay, how do
Speaker 1: I do it again? Okay, so I press on the microphone.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, now it's sending nothing because I went off it.
Speaker 1: And then I'll try again, and then I go, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: so yeah, just on what your no it was, And
Speaker 1: then I lose my train of thought and I go, no,
Speaker 1: I can't send that, and then I redo it, and
Speaker 1: then it's too much. It's too much. I don't just
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 3: Now you're trying to reply like a text message, but
Speaker 3: in the form of a voice note.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I almost have to hay, how are you? Is it?
Speaker 1: It like completely defeats the purpose of it. But then
Speaker 1: if you look, that's because of our generation, Like that's
Speaker 1: the more gen Z thing. I feel like these voice.
Speaker 3: Message Yeah I know, so let's use voice messages. What
Speaker 3: is the difference This is my question. What is the
Speaker 3: difference voice messaging and leaving a message on a voicemail?
Speaker 3: Because I find nowadays no one listens to their fucking voicemail.
Speaker 1: No, no one calls no.
Speaker 2: But my whole thing is, I've just done the same thing.
Speaker 2: I've left you a voicemail. I didn't get it. It
Speaker 2: was no different if I dropped you a text with
Speaker 2: a voice note.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then you'd get it.
Speaker 2: You would get it.
Speaker 3: My voicemail it has this thing where it literally I'll
Speaker 3: get a bulk set of voicemails on my phone all
Speaker 3: at once, and I'm like, I'm sorry, i just got
Speaker 3: your voicemail from three days ago.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your phone's problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3: But then you go to like WhatsApp or text message
Speaker 3: and you get a voice note. They're so quick, like
Speaker 3: it's almost like you're telling a story. My question to you,
Speaker 3: do you ever re listen to your voice notes and
Speaker 3: to someone else occasionally?
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 1: Just send it? Don't over there.
Speaker 2: But it's not like you're going to go in and
Speaker 2: rerech do it.
Speaker 1: No, I've certainly done that. I've definitely been there. But
Speaker 1: I think voice messages is it's having a conversation and
Speaker 1: they'm understanding how you're saying it. But I don't understand
Speaker 1: the not actually picking up the phone and having the conversation.
Speaker 1: But I don't understand yeah, I know people who voice
Speaker 1: voice voice work for I'm like, pick the fucking phone up.
Speaker 1: I don't just call you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, like.
Speaker 1: We're so millennial when we say that. But when I
Speaker 1: look at my dad, Yeah, my dad's what would he
Speaker 1: be he's seventy.
Speaker 2: You's like, yeah, you's like mine or no, don't ask
Speaker 2: me this. We've discussed this so many times.
Speaker 1: Whatever the is older, whatever the generation is. My dad
Speaker 1: will send me a text message and say love Dad at.
Speaker 2: The end, like my dad does the same thing, love Dad.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah I know it's dad because it clearly says
Speaker 3: dad in my phone when it comes up.
Speaker 2: Just right. Yeah, well, I don't even know what he
Speaker 2: would write.
Speaker 1: Instead of that, my dad will still face time. I'll
Speaker 1: go Dad, let me see your new house house. I
Speaker 1: was like, show me around your new house, and he'll go, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: how do I switch a camera around? I'm like, we
Speaker 1: do this same dance every single time. It's just down
Speaker 1: there like click on the you know, gone that little
Speaker 1: thing at the bottom, and then it's like, oh, or
Speaker 1: wherever I gone, where's it gone? It's literally I wish
Speaker 1: I should record it. Next time it will be the
Speaker 1: same thing, like just record the whole Oh no, not
Speaker 1: the cool Now I'm upside down.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna wrap this up.
Speaker 3: And it's not purely like it's nothing to do with
Speaker 3: obviously your dad's inability of using technology and mine too.
Speaker 3: But nowadays, even on the dating apps, you can voice note. Ah,
Speaker 3: So if you were on a dating app, would you
Speaker 3: voice note someone that you just met and like you
Speaker 3: were just exchanging text messages for would you send a
Speaker 3: voice note about who you are and what you're doing?
Speaker 1: Look, I wouldn't, but I get that like my girls.
Speaker 3: Yes, So a friend of mine is on a dating
Speaker 3: app and this happened. He doesn't like to talk on
Speaker 3: the phone, like actual talk on the phone as then
Speaker 3: phone calls or talking on the phone.
Speaker 2: It's weird. I find that weird. She doesn't like to
Speaker 2: text message.
Speaker 3: So in order to exchange what is it called, like
Speaker 3: chat on I think it's Tinder or Hinde or whatever
Speaker 3: it was was that she you just voice note the
Speaker 3: whole thing. So it's like, Hi, my name is such
Speaker 3: and such, this is what I'm into you my friends
Speaker 3: think this and me like like, and then he would
Speaker 3: just text back.
Speaker 2: Do you find that would be weird for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're I feel like you should both be
Speaker 1: doing the same same right. Is it a voice message?
Speaker 1: Is it a text?
Speaker 3: I find voice messages are so much more personal because
Speaker 3: like I'm talking to you.
Speaker 1: The thing that makes me laugh is that we are
Speaker 1: all about phones these days. We have a phone everywhere
Speaker 1: we go. We are always on our phones. Apart from
Speaker 1: we do not use a phone for a phone. We
Speaker 1: do not use the phone part of the phone.
Speaker 3: I know, why why don't you like calling people? People
Speaker 3: don't like talking on the phone anymore.
Speaker 2: It blows my mind.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, hi, missus, Evan, just like chill there please,
Speaker 1: And then someone will pick up the phone upstairs and
Speaker 1: you go put the phone down. I'm on it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: If you had two phones in the hours, Oh how embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Put the phone down and talking to a boy and
Speaker 2: you're like, you'd.
Speaker 1: Have like a sibling. My sister would pick up the
Speaker 1: phone and she'd be listening to my conversation, and then
Speaker 1: you'd hear a little giggle. Let me Gary, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: had a boyfriend called Gary. He drove a Ford escort.
Speaker 3: Oh me, Gary, Gary's here, o, Katie, Gary's on the
Speaker 3: phone for you.
Speaker 2: Hi Gary, Hi, Gary Gays is picking me up tonight,
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. See how kids, our
Speaker 2: kids are gonna miss out on all of this. I
Speaker 2: feel sorry for them.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't even get to date a guy named Gary.
Speaker 1: Do you know who my hall passes? You know you
Speaker 1: can get a Hall past?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Mine was always Colin Farrell, but I always had a
Speaker 1: she with the name Colin, like I Colin.
Speaker 2: Colin. Colin's on the phone for you.