1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: On scords Ostrodio. This is the Reader Panalty Show. 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the readA panicky show. Coming 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: up on tonight's program, Opposition leader Peter Dutton attacked by 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: the media, big business and smaller liberals. Will an energy 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: policy that prioritizes costs and reliability over emission cuts be 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: a winning strategy for the coalition. I'll speak with Nick 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: Kata about that shortly. 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 3: Also tonight we'll look at the teacher shortage and the 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: fallout on the King's Birthday honors list, and we're checking 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: on the Leader of the Free World with Adam B. 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: Coleman, and of course Left is losing it. 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: Did you know that queer and trans people actually experience 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 4: time completely differently to sishap people. It's a concept called 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: queer temporality. 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: Joining me now is Harold's son columnist Patrick Carline. And 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: let's start with the King's Birthday on his list. A 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: poll in the Herald Sun shows that ninety five percent 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: of respondents did not believe former Premier Dan Andrews deserve 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: the nation's highest King's Birthday on after he received a 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: Companion of the Order of Australia award. Even a clear 21 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: majority of age readers thought the same, Only four inten 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:26,279 Speaker 2: saying Andrews deserve this award. Patrick, there is a real 23 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: depth of ill feeling here. 24 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 5: It's visceral read it's too soon. 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 6: I mean, we're still recovering from lockdowns and Victoria we 26 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 6: had record lockdowns. 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 5: And we feel ripped off. 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 6: There is a very vocal and significant minority if you 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 6: look at elections who really can't stand Dan Andrews and 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 6: can't can't stand to see him held up in lights. 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 6: And if you look at the award, it was for 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 6: explicitly mentioned health and infrastructure. Now by any measure, by 33 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 6: any measure, you'd say, well, that's a blotted record at best. 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 5: It's too soon. 35 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: Is too soon at a time when the health outcomes 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: in Victoria where the worst in the country on every 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: metric that matters, whether you're talking about the death rate, 38 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: whether you're talking about the amount of time we spent 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: under lockdown, whether you're talking about the devastating economic consequences. 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: As for the projects, every project is grotesquely over budgets, 41 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: So how can you be awarded for that for just 42 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: green lighting projects where the state is in record debt. 43 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: It cannot afford it. We've had projects cut like the 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: Commonwealth Games, costing its hundreds of millions of dollars not 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: to hold the games. Just the rationale behind this award 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: again seems to be bizarre. Is there a way to 47 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: get some understanding of how they came to this decision, 48 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: if there was any debate about it before they decided 49 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: to go ahead. 50 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 6: Well, look, the process is somebody nominates you, and I 51 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 6: think there's references and so on, but it's all fairly 52 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 6: secretive in the sense that we don't actually get to 53 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 6: see transparently. 54 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 5: How this came about. 55 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 6: And I think you look at somebody like Kevin rud 56 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 6: or Jeff Kenneth, two divisive politicians, very different politicians from 57 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 6: one another. They got AC's eventually well after they've been 58 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 6: in office, and they did actually do things in servers 59 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 6: that was recognized in those awards. To have this happen 60 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 6: so soon, it is too soon. It is ridiculous, and 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 6: it is very upsetting to a lot of Victorians. 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: It's just funny that a man who has been blacklisted, 63 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: we are told from golf clubs across the Mornington Peninsula, yes, 64 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: has not God the highest honor. We've got available in 65 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: this country. I've got a piece in tomorrow's Herald Sun. 66 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: It's online now. About this week has to be the 67 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: final straw for the honor system in this It has 68 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: been hopelessly pillarticized and needs to be replaced. The entire 69 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: process needs to be reviewed because this isn't isolated. It's 70 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: not just this year's awards, and this year it's not 71 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: just Dan Andrews. You've got former WA governor, governor in 72 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: US politics, Premier Mark McGowan and leftist activists and our 73 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 2: new governor General Sam Mouston also getting the highest honor. 74 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: And I would question the merits of both those awards 75 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: going to two people who've been richly rewarded for their 76 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: roles in public life. 77 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 6: I don't think people Australians want to see people recognize 78 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 6: for just doing their job. And look at Stan's accused 79 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 6: as it is, has been politically corrupted by these. 80 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 5: Kinds of awards and the tracks. 81 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 6: The really sad thing is there's so many worthy people 82 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 6: who have given of themselves, who have done things above 83 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 6: and beyond, whether it's in science or the arts or 84 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 6: music or whatever. They deserve to be recognized. Police actually 85 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 6: tarnishes what they have achieved. 86 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: I would love to see it go to unknowns, go 87 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: to people who volunteer, who devote their life to helping 88 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: others for no reward, financial or otherwise. I think these 89 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: sorts of awards should be reserved almost exclusively for them. 90 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: Maybe the occasional heroic feat that we all know about, 91 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: but not to politicians and lifelong public servants. Now let's 92 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: talk about Victoria police. They were pelted with bottles spat 93 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: on at a pro Palestinian rally. They've slammed the protests 94 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: as extremely hostile and disgusting. About three thousand people were 95 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: again marching through Melbourne's streets. This was on Sunday. The 96 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: Australian Palestine Advocacy Network they dispute the police's version of events, 97 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: but here is some footage showing police officers being harassed 98 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: by these protesters. 99 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 4: Run Run your. 100 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 5: Dog. 101 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: You can see there the police walking off as they're 102 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: being called every name under the sun, as their mothers 103 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: are called every name under the sun. These activists, these protesters, 104 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: seem to have little fear of the police. 105 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 6: There has been a lack of respect throughout the whole 106 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 6: sort of protest movement since October seven. Hasn't there a 107 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 6: complete lack of respect for the police also the Jewish 108 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 6: community which feels unsafe. You'd like to think that they 109 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 6: have overplayed the hand by now in the sense that 110 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 6: most of the Australians are saying, hang on, this is 111 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 6: this is not a peace protest. This is not about 112 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 6: making the world a better place at its extremes. It's 113 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 6: about annihilating a country and breathing its people. And I 114 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 6: think most Australians, apart from the Greens, perhaps actually looking 115 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 6: at this and saying, hang on, look, it's awful what's 116 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 6: happening in Gaza. But there are hostages there. You can 117 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 6: understand why it has come about. The reason it has 118 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 6: come about is because of a terrorist organization called Hamas. 119 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely, But if I could almost guarantee, because we've seen 120 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: this happen overseas, if you went along to one of 121 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: these protests and you held up an anti Hamas sign 122 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: so nothing else about this conflict other than Hamas are terrorists, 123 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: you would be attacked by these protesters. So that tells 124 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: you where we're at. And I think police command deserve 125 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: a great deal of blame for what we just saw 126 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: there because they have allowed a lot of this to happen. 127 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: We saw them come down on anti lockdown protesters who 128 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: were peaceful, and then this lot are just given free 129 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: reim to do what they like. Talking about Israel, we've 130 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: seen now footage released of the dramatic moment that the 131 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: forces stormed a house that was holding hostages, taken October seven. 132 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 7: W goodness, I didn't terrifying. 133 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: Almost looks like a video game. You can't believe that's real. 134 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: And you may have noticed the fist pump between the 135 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: one of the hostages and a rescuer there. And despite 136 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: the wonderful news of these hostages being recovered after eight months, 137 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: we've got the likes of the Greens in this country, 138 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: Patrick questioning the manner in which the Israelis went about 139 00:08:58,920 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: this rescue mission. 140 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 6: Yes, look, I think the Greens are out of step 141 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 6: with what Australians believe in and values. I think if 142 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 6: one hundred and forty or one hundred and fifty Australians 143 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 6: were taken hostage by another country, every Australian would want 144 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 6: this country to do its best to get them back. 145 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 6: And that's what's been forgotten in this whole debate in Australia, 146 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 6: and has been hijacked by the Greens. Is Israel, you 147 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 6: would expect any country to go and get its own people, 148 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 6: say of its own people. Again, it was a terrorist 149 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 6: organization that made all this happen. 150 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 5: These awful scenes that we see in. 151 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 6: Gaza are not because of Israel, not because of anything 152 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 6: Israel did on October seventh. It's because of what happened, 153 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 6: because of what Hamas chose to happen. And look, that 154 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 6: footage is critical. Everyone should see that because it as 155 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 6: a reminder of what this actually is about. 156 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 2: And they lost a commander during that rescue the Israelis, 157 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: so it was a highly risky operation. And I can 158 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: and I think everyone, if they're being honest, would admit this. 159 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: If it was your child who was taken hostage by 160 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: these terrorists, you would want them back at any cost. 161 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: And to now scrutinize how they went about it, I 162 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: think again you're holding Israel to a different standard than 163 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 2: just about every other country. Now to a wonderful piece 164 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: in Today's Daily Telegraph by Tim Blair, here is written 165 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: about the climate cult, noting that liberal leader Peter Dutton's 166 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: entirely reasonable review of our self destructive support for the 167 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: Paris Agreement is now nudging Prime Minister Anthony Alberan easy 168 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: and climate tantrum bluster them in start Chris Bowen towards 169 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 2: the lava line. The lava line, you need to read 170 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: the full column to get that line. But this is 171 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: self destruction and it seems the Labor government is doubling down. 172 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: The Australians revealed that they're now looking at hiking our 173 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: carbon emission targets. In response Tod's comments, is this going 174 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: to be alban easy pushing the self destruct button or 175 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:14,119 Speaker 2: is he on safe ground here because once Scott Morrison 176 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: committed the Coalition to net zero, we stopped debating this 177 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: issue in this country. 178 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 5: That's right. 179 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 6: Look, the one point I would make is if you 180 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 6: go to a barbecue these days, nobody's talking about the 181 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 6: Paris Agreement and whether we're. 182 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 5: Holding up what we have to do. 183 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 6: We're talking about energy prices, we're talking about blackouts in 184 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 6: the future, we're talking about reliability or something that we're 185 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 6: taken for granted for generations and suddenly it's all up 186 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 6: in the air. And to sort of say well, no, 187 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 6: when you have this mission, this is our ideology, we're 188 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 6: going to make it happen everybody else. All the experts 189 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 6: say the renewables target is not going to happen. It's 190 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 6: not going to happen by twenty thirty, and people want 191 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 6: to know that their energy can be reliable and can 192 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 6: be relatively cheap. And that's something that I think Albani 193 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 6: and certainly Chris Bowen have lost sight of when they're 194 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 6: talking about this, and I think they've misread the electorate somewhat. 195 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: I think they have because they've had the advantage of 196 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: not debating the Coalition on this. The Coalition has signed 197 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: up to these net zero targets, and if there's a 198 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: real debate, I think they're going to be surprised by 199 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: where many Australians land. Not the media, they'll have the 200 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: media on their side. Labor before you go, I've got 201 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: to ask you about this. The Canadian Cancer Society has 202 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: apologized for using the word cervix in pamphlets and website 203 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: pages about cervical cancer. They acknowledge that they should use 204 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: the more gender inclusive word front hole. I wish I 205 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 2: was joking, I'm not. In their apology, they said, we 206 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: recognize that many transmen and non binary people may have 207 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: mixed feelings about or feel distanced from words like cervix. 208 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: You may prefer other words such as front hole. We 209 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: recognize the limitations of the words we've used, while also 210 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: acknowledging the need for simplicity. Another reason we use words 211 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 2: like cerfix is to normalize the reality that men can 212 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: have these body parts. To Patrick arm for one, speechless. 213 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 6: I think if you go to the oncologist and the 214 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 6: oncologist starts talking about your front hole problem, or if 215 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 6: you're a man, your golf ball problem or e reilling problem, 216 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 6: I think at that point you'd probably find another oncologist. 217 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 2: You would and you would hope that they would seek 218 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: some sort of professional help themselves, possibly in the mental 219 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: health space. Patrick Carline, always a pleasure, My pleasure. Joining 220 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: me now is Nick cat from their Mensi's Research Center, 221 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: also a senior columnist with The Australian. Nick Let's start 222 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: with this piece from Alan Cohla in the New Daily. 223 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: He says it's time for Australia to switch off gas 224 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: if it wants to achieve its net zero emission target, 225 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: saying we should pay households to switch their gas appliances 226 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: to electric and we should also pay cattle farmers to 227 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 2: either offset their methane or remove it in some way. 228 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: Col also rights. The question is going to be weather 229 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: and how to encourage or force the gas companies to 230 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: keep supplying the laggards who like cooking and heating with 231 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: gas while they're persuaded or subsidized to buy a better 232 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: electric induction stove. 233 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 5: Neck. 234 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: Victoria is already sadly heading down this road with banned 235 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: new gas connections in our new homes that are being built. 236 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: But is this war on gas going to achieve anything 237 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: useful for the Australian population. 238 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 8: It's going to achieve nothing full except make it harder 239 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 8: for people to get buy and live. 240 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean, with the cost of living as it needs. 241 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 8: Is mister Kolo on his well paid job whenever he 242 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 8: gets paid saying oh, well, I'm sorry, you've got to 243 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 8: go and buy a new cooker. It is absurd, because 244 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 8: this whole war on gas is absurd. I mean here 245 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 8: in Europe. I'm in London at the moment, but they've 246 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 8: just had a European election and the big issue was 247 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 8: one of the big issues was immigration, the second was energy, 248 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 8: and what people were saying was we don't want to 249 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 8: go along with this, and the whole tide of the 250 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 8: debate has changed. And it's all because a gas reader, 251 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 8: because they were buying gas from Russia, as you know, 252 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 8: and it went through the roof. You need gas in 253 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 8: the interim. I mean, if we'd love to, we could 254 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 8: put nuclear right away. We haven't got it. But in 255 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 8: the meantime, we're going to need gas to power up 256 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 8: our electricity system. We're going to need it to make 257 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 8: fertilizer for farmers, We're going to need it for industrial processes. 258 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 8: You know, this green hydrogen thing is some dream in 259 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 8: the heads of people like Alan Cola. 260 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: It's a long way down the track, you know. 261 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 8: Just just get realist what I'd say on this, besides 262 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 8: which it'll do absolutely zero to help the planet, zero 263 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 8: or so small that you can't even read it, you know, 264 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 8: it's tiny. 265 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: You mentioned the EU elections green and left leaning parties 266 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: that took a beating, who had so called far right 267 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: parties making huge gains. They campaigned not just against immigration 268 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: nick but also they campaigned against net zero policies. Should 269 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: our politicians take note of what is happening across Europe? 270 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 8: Absolutely they should, because the two issues are big in Australia. 271 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 8: I mean, I think if you were to sum up 272 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 8: the European vote, people were saying no to net zero, 273 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 8: yes to no immigration. You know they don't want more immigration. 274 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 8: And the whole debate over net zero and the cost 275 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 8: it's adding to people, the pain it's putting on farmers 276 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 8: that the electricity bills have gone through the roofing countries 277 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 8: like Germany and Ireland where they're heavily reliant on gas. 278 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 8: You know, this whole thing is just collapsing very quickly 279 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 8: in Europe. Most countries are now admitting they're not going 280 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 8: to get to their twenty thirsty targets because they can't. 281 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 8: The whole thing is impossible in the timeframe, and sooner 282 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 8: or later, of course Australia will come to that position. 283 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 8: Even Antoni at in the Albanizi and Chris Bowen mind, 284 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 8: I suspect they won't come to it till about twenty 285 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 8: twenty nine. But you know it's not going to happen. 286 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 8: You cannot meet those targets in that space of time 287 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 8: with the technology you have full stop. 288 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: Any engineer will tell you that. 289 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: Now you wrote a fantastic piece for the OS warning 290 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: Australia's climate lobby that ambitious green energy targets that they're 291 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: trying to implement, Yeah, have not worked in Germany. Tell 292 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: me about what's happened in Germany because they turned their 293 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 2: back on nuclear, that went down the renewaballs road hard 294 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: and the results of being almost catastrophic. 295 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 1: It's been disastrous for Germany. 296 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 8: This is you know, they were the poster child Europe's 297 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 8: post a child of green energy. And I caught the 298 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 8: train from Hamburg to Berlin and every field it seems 299 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 8: is covered in solar panels and windmills. 300 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: But it's not doing the trick. 301 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 8: As they found out, you know, when the gas supply 302 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 8: went up, you know, the price of gas went up. 303 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: They were just really really hurt. And now the you know, the. 304 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 8: Electricity price in Germany is the highest in Europe. It's 305 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 8: about twice as high as it is across the water 306 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 8: there in Sweden where they're running on nuclear and hydro electricity. 307 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: And this is affecting industry. 308 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 8: Thirty percent of German businesses told their big Chamber of 309 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 8: Commerce in a survey that they were looking to relocate offshore. 310 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 8: And this is happening and see German industries declining very quickly, 311 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 8: and they're moving when they can to places where there's 312 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 8: cheaper electricity. It's been a disaster for Germany and it's 313 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 8: bringing about their industrial collapse. Once that great country where 314 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 8: we used to you know, we always to go there 315 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 8: for oudies and washing machines, you won't be getting those 316 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 8: from Germany for much longer because they basically stuffed it all. 317 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: Up and all entirely self inflicted and I would say predictable. 318 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: And they were warned, they were warned about the path 319 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: they were taking. They were warned that they were far 320 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: too reliant on Russian energy. I remember Trump warning them 321 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: during a speech and they were the German contingent there 322 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: I think it was at the UN were sitting there 323 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 2: snickering like schoolgirls instead of actually heeding the warning they 324 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: were told. And they've ignored it. And it would be 325 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 2: absolutely absurd for us to ignore what's happening in Germany 326 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: at the moment, Nick. 327 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, it would. And you know I made the point 328 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 8: in the column. It's now twelve years since Angela Merkel, 329 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 8: mysteriously well actually under green pressure, said we're not going 330 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 8: to We're going to phase out our nuclear plants so 331 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 8: they've had twelve years to work out how to power 332 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 8: their electricity grid without nuclear, without using coal, without using gas. 333 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 8: And these are the German engineers, the same German engineers 334 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 8: that gave. 335 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: You vorce frung Dirk technique. 336 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 8: You know, they are the best in the world, and 337 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 8: they can't work it out and the country is suffering 338 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 8: as a result. They've just reopened eight coal mines in 339 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 8: the last two years, would you believe, because it's cheaper 340 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 8: than getting gas in from overseas. They actually knocked down 341 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 8: one wind farm to build it to dig up some coal. 342 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 8: That's telling you something isn't there. But you know somehow. 343 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 8: Chris Bowe, he was in Germany last year. He didn't 344 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 8: spot any of this. Apparently he just thinks Germany is 345 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 8: the great vision of the future. 346 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: We have to follow. Dream on, mister Boone, dream on. 347 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: Well, we're hearing that the Coalition is war gaming and 348 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: the possibility of an early election. As the Prime minister, 349 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: it prepares to fight on energy as a major issue. 350 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: Dutton's gaining a recent News poll two party per thirty 351 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 2: it was fifty to fifty. The Libs primary vote had 352 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: gone up and the Australian reveals that Anthony Alberanzi is 353 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: going to use even higher carbon emission targets to fight 354 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: the coalition. Do you see that as a winning strategy? Nick, 355 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: Because much of the media is already attacking Peter Dutton 356 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: for restarting the climate walls, as they call it, We've 357 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 2: got elements of the business sector also campaigning for what 358 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: they call certainty Canton strategy work if he has the 359 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: media and big business against him. 360 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 8: Look what they're trying to do, business and labor, and 361 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 8: I think of those as one block these days. What 362 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 8: they are trying to do is return to the debate 363 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 8: that oh, you're a climate denier. Now that debate ended 364 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 8: the moment that the coalition signed up to zero twenty 365 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 8: fifty for better or worse. Right now, it's all about 366 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 8: how you get there and how expensive it is. 367 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: And people know this is a distraction from labor. 368 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 8: Let's make this about the climate wars again, so that 369 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 8: nobody's sort of asked salt ul questions like what happened 370 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 8: to that two hundred and seventy five dollars that you 371 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 8: promised you were going to take off my electricity bill. 372 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 8: Labor is just desperate on this and it won't work 373 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 8: Greta because most people in Australia, as we know, if 374 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 8: you do a survey on this, actual climate change and 375 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 8: zero emissions is way down their list of concerns right now, 376 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 8: way way down. And it's I think it's a recipe 377 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 8: for losing as because I think we're going to see 378 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 8: the same trend that we have here in Europe that 379 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 8: people are just going to switch away from green parties 380 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 8: and say, well, you know, you're off with the fairies. 381 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: We're not going there with you. We're just not going there. 382 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: Now you're in London, the election there is just a 383 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 2: matter of weeks away. What's your feeling we're looking at 384 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: a labor landslide. All the polls are indicating that Forarjas 385 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: entered the race quite late. If you were a betting man, 386 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: what would your. 387 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 8: Prediction be, Well, I wouldn't be putting any money on 388 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 8: Rishi Sudak night. Now I think the betting well, the 389 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 8: way the betting is running here is how many seats 390 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 8: are the toy is going to end up with, And 391 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 8: there are people seriously saying it will be less fewer 392 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 8: than one hundred seats. It'll be the worse result I 393 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 8: think since the beginning of the last century. It's going 394 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 8: to be a landslide for labor. The question is how 395 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 8: big is that landslide and how much of the Tory 396 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 8: Party is left. Nigel Farage's party, of course, is making 397 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 8: big inroads into the Tory vote and then a first 398 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 8: past the system that's really damaging. But Faraj himself will 399 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 8: not win many seats, you know, three four I would 400 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 8: pretict at most because of the way their boundaries fall 401 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 8: and the way the election plays out. But he'll help, 402 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 8: you know, push the Tories into oblivion. I mean, let's 403 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 8: be honest. I mean a government that has been in 404 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 8: a longer they have. You know, no government's had five 405 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 8: terms in Britain I think for almost two hundred years. 406 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: So they're not going. 407 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 8: You know, they couldn't effect five terms in the best 408 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 8: of times, and so they're gone. 409 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: But it would be nice to see. 410 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 8: Them have at least be the official opposition and not 411 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 8: give that away to the Lib Dems, which is a 412 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 8: real possibility if they do as badly as the worst 413 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 8: people the worst predictions. 414 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: Well, let's let it be a warning to Codition party, 415 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: that's true, but let it be a warning to conservative 416 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: parties everywhere, including here, including our state liberal parties, that 417 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 2: this is what happens when you can depletely lose sight 418 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: of your principles and govern like labor lighte. You just 419 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: have no supportive base to speak of. Nikota, thank you 420 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 2: so much for your time this evening, and still to come. 421 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 2: We've got a extended version of Lefty's Losing it and 422 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: Joe Biden let's loose at a Juneteenth event as black 423 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: voters fleeing his campaign. 424 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: Adam B. 425 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: Coleman joins me, next, welcome back. Now it's time for 426 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: lefties losing it. And have you ever considered that time 427 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: itself could be transphobic? You better throw away your quocks 428 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: because this next last claims that queer and trans people 429 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 2: actually experience time completely differently. 430 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: Did you know that queer and trans people actually experience 431 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 4: time completely differently to sis happy. It's a concept called 432 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 4: queer temporality, and it basically has to do with the 433 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 4: fact that historically, as queer and trans people, our lives 434 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 4: have started much later and for a whole bunch of reasons, 435 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 4: ended earlier than our CIS counterparts. So as a result, 436 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 4: our experience of time is compressed. 437 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: OO wowe, there's a lot to unpack there. What else 438 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: didn't we know about the passage of time? I could 439 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: not be more fascinated. 440 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 4: Those milestones that we've been socialized to use to mark 441 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 4: the passage of time to things like marriage or having 442 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 4: a children or you know, working, retiring, inheritance, things like 443 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 4: that haven't been accessible to us. And that linear timeline 444 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 4: has a name, heterochronology. 445 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: There you go, you learn something new every day. Didn't 446 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: know queer folk were prevented from working and retiring. Now 447 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: to Lefty Losing It Headquarters MSNBC, which makes the crazy 448 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: folk at CNN look calm and rational. Here's Adrian L. 449 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 2: Rod claiming that it's Trump foreign policy that folks need 450 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: to fear, not the unholy mess Biden has made over 451 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: the past three and a half years. 452 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 9: And during these challenging times on the foreign policy front, 453 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 9: on the global front. Can you imagine having done on 454 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 9: trum back in the White House trying to manage all 455 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 9: of this. I mean, President Biden's a seasoned foreign policy 456 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 9: pro He served, of course, as the chair on the 457 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 9: Senate Foreign Relations Committee for a long time. He has 458 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 9: these relationships with the world leaders that go very, very deep. 459 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: So we're going to be reinforcing the. 460 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 9: Fact that that's an important attribute that the president has. 461 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: Yes, Adrian, I'm sure the American people are just terrified 462 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: of Trump returning them to peace and prosperity, to four 463 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: years of no new wars, of historic peace stills being 464 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: struck between Israel and Musslim majority nations. Somehow that Biden 465 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: administration's profound weakness, emboldening the likes of China in a Russia, 466 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: Iran in North Korea isn't making us safer. We're all shocked. 467 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: Now back to Australia and the city of Melbourne in 468 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: the great state of Victoria, where the leftist government has 469 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: accrued record debt while pushing a relentlessly leftist agenda, and 470 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: where feral far left activists routinely block city roads for 471 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: protests and they're not shy about abusing police. Listen here 472 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 2: as they taunt the retreat retreating officers with things like 473 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 2: run you son of a slut and U and rats 474 00:28:36,040 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: charming stuff, run run. I got to say, I do 475 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: feel for the police working at the cold face there. 476 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: Woke overlords in police command have taken a knee to 477 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: this far left lunacy, whether it's BLM or they climate 478 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: protests or these anti Israeli mobs. Time for some French 479 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: folk losing it. The EU elections have just taken place 480 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: and the results were shocking for left is with Europe 481 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: swinging hard to the right, and some folk took the 482 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: news better than others. If you want a clueest to wife, 483 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: so much of Europe is swinging hard to right wing parties. 484 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: They want to cut immigration and abandon net zero and 485 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: other new Marxist nonsense. Then look at these scenes from 486 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: not where in France where Antifa mobs break the window 487 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: of a building because it's flying the French flag. Yeah, 488 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: I can't imagine why folks are rejecting socialist lunacy. Time 489 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: now to visit lawless California and here are folks achieving 490 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: social justice in Los Angeles. Just kidding, they're just ransacking 491 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: an auto Zone store. 492 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 10: The store is just completely trash in a tense, crazy situation. 493 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 10: There was a street takeover. This store was mob the 494 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 10: AutoZone it ransacking, flipping that store upside down. We also 495 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 10: see several people walking out with several pieces of merchandise. 496 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: And time now to check in on the Leader of 497 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: the Free World here is celebrating the made up holiday Juneteenth, 498 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: and of course he has no idea what is happening? 499 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 11: Have you? 500 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: We did not manipulate that footage to make the president 501 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: look utterly lost and bewildered. That's all Joe, that's all natural. 502 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: And it didn't get any better when he got up 503 00:31:49,720 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: to dance or try to. 504 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 11: No, I don't want to love nobody. I don't want 505 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 11: to love nobody. 506 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: What's he doing with his hands? Again? That footage has 507 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: not been in any way manipulated. It's not Ai, it's 508 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: not a deep fake. That's the Leader of the Free world. 509 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: Not sure who the bearded duty is in the sequent 510 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: dress who's dancing next to mister Kamala Kamala Harris's husband. 511 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: But let's just watch a bit more of this. 512 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 11: I want to love nobody. 513 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: Let's bring in Adam B. Coleman, founder of Wrong Speak Publishing, 514 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 2: an author at Adam bacolemanssubstat dot com. Adam first to 515 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 2: tell my audience what Juneteenth is. Not many Australians would 516 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: be across that, and what do you make of the 517 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: president's obvious cognition of decline. They didn't seem to know 518 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: what was happening. 519 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 12: Well, thank you for having me on Juneteenth is something 520 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 12: that really originated out of Texas because the last slaves 521 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 12: who were notified that they were free were actually in Texas. 522 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,479 Speaker 12: So Juneteenth is supposed to signify that day when the 523 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 12: last of the slaves were freed in America. So it's 524 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 12: really something that was more regional until it became a 525 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 12: national holiday. But it was more of a regional thing. 526 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 12: People have barbecues and stuff like that. It wasn't really 527 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 12: seen as a big deal, but it became more so 528 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 12: a national holiday. And I guess in some ways it's 529 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 12: not necessarily a bad thing. It's a celebration of freedom 530 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 12: in the United States. And as far as what's happening 531 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 12: with Joe Biden, I think there are a lot of Americans, 532 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 12: including black Americans, who are concerned with his very obvious 533 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 12: cognitive to Colm, you know, when I was a Democrat, 534 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 12: I saw the decline and I couldn't believe that they 535 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 12: were still pushing this man forward and somehow he won. 536 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 12: So it's only gotten worse since. 537 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 2: It has. And even four years ago, I was playing 538 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 2: some footage a couple of days ago from his campaign 539 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: into that twenty twenty, and the decline just in that 540 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 2: time is very obvious when you look at him back then, 541 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: and back then he wasn't great either. Now let's talk 542 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: about the WNBA. Not a topic we broached too often 543 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: on this program, but I've got to say it's got 544 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: an attitude problem. They're breaking viewing records thanks largely to 545 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 2: one single player, Caitlin Clark. But it's clear most of 546 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: the young ladies are not ready for prime time. Some 547 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: of them are claiming harassment when journalists ask them questions, 548 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 2: have you got a chance to reach out to Kitlander? 549 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: Come on with her with that? 550 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 5: Have you got a chance to reach out to Kitland? Trinan? 551 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 5: Have you got the chance? The Basketball war wants to know. 552 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 5: Have you've got a chance to reach out to her? 553 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 2: She was being asked about why she felt it was 554 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: appropriate to give Caitlyn Clark a hip and shoulder as 555 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 2: we call it in Aussie rules, and a lot of 556 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 2: these Caitlin Clark haters are going to be happy because 557 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 2: she has not been selected for the US Olympic team. 558 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 2: But I think she showed wonderful grace and gave a 559 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 2: very high response when asked about this. Disappointment. 560 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 4: I'm excited for the girls that are on the team. 561 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 12: I know it's the most competitive team in. 562 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: The world, and I know I could have gone either way. 563 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 4: Maybe on the team and maybe on the team, So 564 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 4: you know, I'm excited for them. 565 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 2: Adam, make me understand the vitriol this girl is copying. 566 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: It's a mystery to us watching on in Australia. She's 567 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: making these athletes relevant, possibly profitable. Why they're hostile towards 568 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: her instead of being happy that they're finally getting some 569 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 2: attention for their league. 570 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 12: You know, I might have a different viewpoint on this 571 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 12: entire scenario, but I think much of it is somewhat 572 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 12: contrived from when she was in college. You know, I 573 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 12: know that she has a bit of a reputation as 574 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 12: far as being a dirty player herself and trash talking. 575 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 12: Not necessarily be a dirty player, but trash talking. And 576 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 12: you know, I wonder if people are hyper focusing on 577 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 12: the racial narratives that happened during the NCAA tournament and 578 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 12: thinking that this is carrying on into the w NBA, 579 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 12: when in reality, the WNBA, we might have jokes about it, 580 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 12: but it's still the professional league. These are grown women 581 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 12: not college students, And just like any other sport NBA 582 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 12: as well, there's hard fouls, things like this happen. So 583 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 12: I'm not sure if if it is vitriol or if 584 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 12: we're just seeing typical basketball play and inserting a narrative. 585 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 12: And I think sometimes we can be a little bit 586 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 12: carried away as far as seeing this like a Kardashians 587 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 12: episode has to tune in tomorrow to see who dislikes 588 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 12: Caitlin Clark today. So I think that some of this 589 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 12: is just normal basketball stuff. As far as them not 590 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 12: being able to handle the limelight, Yeah, they're not used 591 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 12: to people paying attention to them or even know who 592 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 12: they are, so you know, maybe they're comfortable with that. 593 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: Well, there is definitely a bit of vitriol because you 594 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: watch some of the press conferences where she's brought up 595 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: and now the players about her, and a couple of 596 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 2: clips I've seen they've refused to answer any questions about her, 597 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 2: as if she's some sort of a non entity. So 598 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. There does definitely seem to be a resentment. 599 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's racially based. The media narrative seems 600 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 2: to be racially based, with the likes of Sunny Houston 601 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 2: on the view making a point about her race. But 602 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessarily where the players are coming from. Now, 603 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: let's talk about the polls. Donald Trump and Joe Biden 604 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 2: are currently tied in Virginia, which is a massive surprise. 605 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: Biden won Virginia comfortably in twenty twenty, and Governor Glenn 606 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 2: Youngkein has said that Trump could be the first Republican 607 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: president who takes his state in it twenty years. I've 608 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: got to say, even on my most optimistic day, Adam, 609 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 2: I didn't think Virginia was in play. 610 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 12: Well, there's a lot of moving pieces that are happening 611 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 12: right now. Obviously, there are people who are reacting to 612 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 12: him getting the felony charge in New York, many people. Obviously, 613 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 12: if you hate Donald Trump, this is your super Bowl. 614 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 12: But if you are indifferent or somewhat impartial, and you 615 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 12: look at all the different core cases that are popping up, 616 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 12: and it seems like these are a bit of a 617 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 12: stretch of core cases that are or charges that are 618 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 12: being brought against him, because they are, you might be 619 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 12: waking more people up than you realize. So I think 620 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 12: the Democrats might be in this situation helping Donald Trump 621 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,479 Speaker 12: more than they think. I do have a love hate 622 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 12: relationship when it comes to polling because prior to his conviction, 623 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 12: they're polling data that was showing that if Donald Trump 624 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 12: was to actually have a felony while running for president, 625 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 12: that Independence would largely pull away from him. So I 626 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 12: don't know if it's a change of viewpoint from Independence 627 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 12: or it's just a different poll and they're just getting 628 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 12: different results. But I think the polls can show a trend. 629 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 12: Maybe Virginia is closer than we thought. But at the 630 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 12: end of the day, I don't think anybody, whether you're 631 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 12: a Democrat or Republican, should take this as being some 632 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 12: sort of victory or a loss. There's a lot of 633 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 12: work to be had. 634 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: Oh. 635 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely, November is a long time away. But we do 636 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 2: love the polls. And let's look at some of the 637 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 2: crucial swing states. Some of the latest polling coming out 638 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 2: is showing nationally Biden and Trump even but in those 639 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 2: swing states it's a different story. He is leading in 640 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 2: every swing state by the polls that we saw from yesterday. 641 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 2: And look at this poll of four of the swing 642 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 2: states of Nevada, Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina showing massive margins 643 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 2: to Trump, almost insurmountable, Adam, the margins we are seeing, 644 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 2: they're North Carolina seventy eight twenty two, Arizona sixty one 645 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 2: thirty nine. And I do wonder whether there's a shift 646 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 2: happening in the culture. The Democrats have been so dominant 647 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 2: when it comes to pop culture, the celebrity sphere of influence, 648 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 2: and my argument is they should have zero influence. No 649 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 2: one should be listening to celebrities when they're determining their vote. 650 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 2: But the celebrity class do come in hard for the Democrats, 651 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 2: whether we're talking about Hollywood A listers or athletes or 652 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 2: rock stars. But this time there is just a small number, 653 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: and it is a small number who are bold enough 654 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 2: to side went back in Trump. So it seems like 655 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 2: a lot of celebrities are kind of like voting for Trump. 656 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 7: Now, I mean, why do you think people were kind 657 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 7: of like changing their way of Like, I. 658 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 10: Think we're just we just did our research and we're 659 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 10: just you know, we're not brainwashed anymore by the Left. 660 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 3: I can say that about myself. 661 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 10: All these years, I've been brainwashed, and I'm not anymore 662 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 10: American men. 663 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 5: I see them identifying with Trump. 664 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 12: La Trump, you're the man broing to the damn Travis. 665 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 5: Do what they're doing now, I'll be donated to you. 666 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: Man. 667 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 2: Let's get it done. Adam, we don't have much time. 668 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 2: Do you think this will have any impact on the election. 669 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 12: Not really, But I do think it matters that Trump 670 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 12: is seen as a counterculture figure, so there might be 671 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 12: more and more people that come out. We're in the 672 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 12: celebrity class, who maybe you're on the fringe of the 673 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 12: celebrity class to say something. But do I think that 674 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 12: they're going to push anything over the edge now? I 675 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 12: think burg of the people. 676 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 2: Will Hopefully you're right, because I don't want celebrities from 677 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 2: either side swaying anyone's vote. Adam B. Coleman, thank you 678 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: so much for your time. This evening still to come. 679 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 2: Teacher shortages are forcing schools to close classrooms. But what 680 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 2: is the real reason teachers are fleeing the profession? Colleen 681 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 2: Harken joins me. Next you're watching the Rita Panney Show. 682 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 2: Joining me now is the national manager of the IPA's 683 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 2: Class Action program, Colleen Haarkean. Colleen, we've got more than 684 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred teaching positions vacant in Victoria, with some schools 685 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 2: having to split classes or shut early because they can't 686 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,760 Speaker 2: find any educators to fill the spots. The Herald Sun 687 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 2: reports seven hundred and seventy one jobs were posted in 688 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 2: the past week. Last year, you might remember Dan Andrews 689 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: government announced teaching degrees would be free, graduate teachers even 690 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 2: being offered bonuses to subsidize their start of their careers 691 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 2: in government schools or help them move to regional areas. 692 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 2: Why is none of this working. 693 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: Well, Rechad. 694 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,280 Speaker 13: That program that was announced last year actually doesn't start 695 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 13: until this year and it takes four years part of it, Yeah, 696 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 13: four years for those students to get through the system. 697 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 13: But the real question is will they ever be qualified 698 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 13: to lead a classroom because our research shows it of 699 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 13: that four years that they're about to spend at the university, 700 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 13: only ten weeks of it is dedicated to the teaching, 701 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 13: learning the skills to teach reading, writing, science, history. So 702 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 13: they'll spend the nearly ten weeks only ten weeks out 703 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 13: of their full fourth year university degree. So the priorities 704 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 13: of the universities are really warped and undermining their ability 705 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 13: to become competent and happy teachers, So that program to 706 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 13: be fair of them will take while for it to 707 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 13: work through the system. But it still doesn't mean we're 708 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 13: going to have capable and competent teachers at the end 709 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 13: of the four years. 710 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 2: So what are they spending their time on If so 711 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 2: much of it isn't on what you would expect them 712 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 2: to be spending it on. What's the priority? 713 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 13: Well, the priority is like the national curriculum, it's woke content. 714 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 13: You know, university courses that are called things like is 715 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 13: skin color a pigment of your imagination? 716 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 2: For example? 717 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 13: So the priorities in the university curriculum are as warped 718 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,479 Speaker 13: as the national curriculum. They're not prized prioritizing the skill 719 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 13: set that's required to do the job, which of course 720 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 13: then means that the people who are coming at the 721 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 13: other end are not skilled in the job they have 722 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 13: to do. To manage a classroom, our classrooms are some 723 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 13: of the worst in the world, are seventy first out 724 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 13: of eighty in the OECD in terms of classroom discipline 725 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 13: and requirement. And if you've spent four years of your 726 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 13: university degree learning how to be a global warrior instead 727 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 13: of how to be a great teacher. That's not going 728 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 13: to be very satisfying at the end of the day. 729 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And if we're basically telling anyone who's got a 730 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 2: conservative ideology, you're not welcome in this profession because you're 731 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 2: going to just have to be indoctrinating kids relentlessly in 732 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,959 Speaker 2: leftist group think. That's a large chunk of the potential 733 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 2: teacher pool that's gone. And we're also really not encouraging 734 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 2: men to enter this profession. It seems to be dominated 735 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 2: by women. And again, so you've got another fifty percent 736 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 2: of the population gone that can't be helping with the 737 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 2: teacher shortage. 738 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 13: Well, statistically, that's clearly true, but the real issue is 739 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 13: that teaching as a profession is not really sort of appealing. 740 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 2: To most people at the moment because of. 741 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 13: The conditions of the curriculum, of having the cross curriculum, 742 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 13: priorities of prioritizing Aboriginal and torrest rate Islanders history and 743 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 13: cultures and sustainability ahead of actually the skill set that 744 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 13: the children require. 745 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 2: The way they in check that into every subject from 746 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 2: music to mats is astonishing. Sustainability and what they call 747 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 2: first Nations. 748 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 13: Correct yeah, so that's a stated priority in the national curriculum. 749 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 13: So it doesn't state our priorities to make sure that 750 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 13: kids can read and write to become critical thinkers in 751 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,240 Speaker 13: their own variety. It actually states the priority that sustainability 752 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 13: in Aboriginal and touristate Island is what they should be 753 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 13: learning at every opportunity. 754 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 2: And I do also worry about the state of our 755 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 2: universities because the hostile environment that's been fostered. They're the 756 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 2: far left activism that is scaring off some Jewish students. 757 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 2: Some of them are deferring, declining to tend classes. And 758 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 2: then we've got people from all sorts of backgrounds, not 759 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 2: just Jewish students, who are self sense, who are really 760 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 2: scared to say what they think because they are worried 761 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 2: about an attack from academics and their fellow students. It's 762 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,280 Speaker 2: not a healthy culture we've built in academia, not at all. 763 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 13: And that the universities have rolled over to a small 764 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 13: minority with a very specific activist agenda is a terrible 765 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 13: precedent that has been set. Universities are supposed to be 766 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 13: places of the big contest of ideas and the freedom 767 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 13: of speech, to position, to take your position on a 768 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 13: point and argue it out, and that's not happening at all. 769 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 13: On that first day of those protests at Melbourne University, 770 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 13: six thousand students were declined the opportunity to go to 771 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 13: their own classrooms so and learn, you know, enjoy the 772 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 13: subjects that they're paying to study. And the university is 773 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 13: a capitulating to this is a terrible problem. 774 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 2: I do worry about the learning outcomes because we've already 775 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 2: gone through that COVID era where we had so much 776 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,280 Speaker 2: remote learning, and now some people are opting for remote 777 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 2: because the campuses have got encampments happening and all sorts 778 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 2: of protests and hostility, and the university heads don't seem 779 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 2: to be too concern They are more concerned about the 780 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 2: overseas numbers coming in which are pop up the balance. 781 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,959 Speaker 2: Sheeter Colin Harken. We could talk about this all day. 782 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time this evening. Really 783 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 2: appreciate it. And that's it from me. I'll see you 784 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 2: tomorrow night at eleven up. Next is Newsnight