Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Shari.
Speaker 2: Work at the start of a new week's steep price
Speaker 2: in for Shari this week and next week, with all
Speaker 2: of Shari's regulars along, including on Pleased to say my
Speaker 2: old radio Ray Hadley. He'll be fired up as usual,
Speaker 2: Ray coming up shortly. Also coming up on Shari tonight,
Speaker 2: Ken the Liberal brand actually make its way back.
Speaker 3: From the wilderness.
Speaker 2: I mean, Federal Parliament resumed sitting tomorrow after a longer
Speaker 2: than usual poll election break. I think they've had more
Speaker 2: than ten weeks off. But polls out today and the
Speaker 2: major papers have the Coalition in as bad a position
Speaker 2: it has been in since the nineteen forties. Can you
Speaker 2: believe that? And it's not just the federal arm the
Speaker 2: state liberals in major states New South Wales and Victoria
Speaker 2: are largely irrelevant. Same goes for South Australia and WA
Speaker 2: with only the territory and Queensland in power, and who
Speaker 2: knows what's going to happen in Tasmania. I'll talk about
Speaker 2: the hard road back for the Liberal Party also tonight.
Speaker 2: I'm just back from South Australia. Better part of a
Speaker 2: week in Adelaide and South Australians are filthy that an
Speaker 2: algie bloom that's hit the South Australian coast, killing scores
Speaker 2: of shark and fish and destroying oyster caleases and making
Speaker 2: beaches and orange mess. What's a natural disaster in South Australia.
Speaker 2: Thinks they are being ignored. There's been a development on
Speaker 2: that today. I'll have details shortly. Plus, the Greens have
Speaker 2: labeled an authoritarian cult. Who called them that well one
Speaker 2: of the original conveners of the far left party, Drew Hartton,
Speaker 2: who set them up along with Bob Brown. He's been
Speaker 2: thrown out of the party and is now hitting back
Speaker 2: accusing the minor party recently led by defeated leader Adam Bam.
Speaker 2: We don't miss him as being opposed to debate free
Speaker 2: speech on issues of gender and being focused on non
Speaker 2: environmental issues instead. We'll talk Greens a bit later, but
Speaker 2: first up as the Federal Parliament resumes relatedly tomorrow. As
Speaker 2: I said, with the first physical evidence of how badly
Speaker 2: the Liberal National Coalition fared on May tenth, a long
Speaker 2: ten weeks ago, Labor will file into the Lower House
Speaker 2: and fill ninety four seats and actually spill over, we're
Speaker 2: told into the coalition side of the House potentially. Polling
Speaker 2: yesterday showed the picture is even worse now for the
Speaker 2: opposition than it was on election day, with the coalition's
Speaker 2: primary votes thinking to twenty nine percent. As Peter Kredlin
Speaker 2: said tonight, she could remember when it was at that level,
Speaker 2: and I said, you have to go back to the
Speaker 2: nineteen forties to find them in such a dire situation.
Speaker 2: Now you have to feel for the new leader, Susan Lee.
Speaker 2: If she survives, she's staring at best best case scenario,
Speaker 2: two terms in opposition and who'd want to do that job?
Speaker 2: And as I pointed out, the states are mostly in
Speaker 2: as bad, if not worse situations, but are probably Queensland now.
Speaker 2: Policy is what Susan Lee and her party must concentrate
Speaker 2: on because, believe me, labor might be hugely popular in
Speaker 2: City Sydney, in Melbourne and New South Wales and South Australia,
Speaker 2: and South Australians might be content with Peter malinowskis in
Speaker 2: New South Wales with Chris Mens, but get outside the
Speaker 2: metro areas and regional and rural Australia are on a
Speaker 2: collision course with the state and federal governments. They feel unloved,
Speaker 2: they feel ignored and used. Now it varies from state
Speaker 2: to state, obviously, but the insistence from federal labor supported
Speaker 2: by the Greens, to carpet bomb their communities with green
Speaker 2: energy projects refusing to listen to their complaints is and
Speaker 2: I've been saying this for some time, this is going
Speaker 2: to explode into a massive issue.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: If you don't believe me, take a drive west of
Speaker 2: Sydney or Melbourne. I drove through the small town of Rokewood,
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty six kilometers northwest of Melbourne yesterday,
Speaker 2: just yesterday. Population of that little town, Ropewood couple one hundred,
Speaker 2: maybe two fifty three hundred people. Now, this little community,
Speaker 2: and I was staggered at what I saw is surrounded
Speaker 2: by giant wind turbines of the Golden Plane's wind Farm,
Speaker 2: the biggest wind farm in Victoria. It hosts for now
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty two wind turbines of almost one
Speaker 2: for every human that lives in that village. And normally
Speaker 2: these things are situated off in the distance, but to
Speaker 2: drive past one sitting on a boundary fence next to
Speaker 2: an almost single lane road is frightening. Yesterday in that
Speaker 2: area started around two or three degrees in the morning.
Speaker 2: The sun was out, but almost zero wind, and these
Speaker 2: things just sat there, barely turning.
Speaker 3: I kid you not.
Speaker 2: I felt like some alien invasion had taken place surrounding
Speaker 2: this little town. And there were hundreds more of these
Speaker 2: things off on the horizon doing absolutely nothing. Now, if
Speaker 2: you were to suggest putting one of these things in
Speaker 2: suburbia one, there would be a riot. But no, it's
Speaker 2: a bush that will be made to suffer. Golden pl
Speaker 2: by the way, is owned largely by two companies, TAG
Speaker 2: Energy and a mob called inca group. On their website,
Speaker 2: TAG admits the turbines are situated brought in broad acre
Speaker 2: cropping land and livestock grazing land. They make a claim
Speaker 2: this wind factory will be big enough to power seven
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five thousand homes and then this prevent
Speaker 2: four point five million tons of carbon dioxide being emitted
Speaker 2: annually into the atmosphere. I mean, you and I can,
Speaker 2: and you can make up these numbers. You can pluck
Speaker 2: any sort of figures you like to make a case
Speaker 2: like they are trying to make. Tag Energy, by the way,
Speaker 2: is foreign owned by a combination of French and Italian
Speaker 2: investors founded in twenty nineteen by French entrepreneur Jacques vai
Speaker 2: Rat and the Agnelli family. The Agnelli family you might
Speaker 2: know their name. They own Ferrari, the Italian football team Juventus,
Speaker 2: and lots of other major staff. Now clearly these Europeans
Speaker 2: see a buck to be made building wind farms in Australia.
Speaker 2: But as the head of the Australian Industry Group Innus
Speaker 2: Willocks said in a speech at the weekend, and here
Speaker 2: this in the context of that foreign owned wind farm
Speaker 2: in Rokewood in a set Australia doesn't make much of
Speaker 2: anything anymore.
Speaker 3: He used figures to show.
Speaker 2: In fact, in the year ending June twenty twenty fourth
Speaker 2: or so a year ago, saw one hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: six manufacturing businesses closed down, and in this pointed out,
Speaker 2: we don't even make peanut butter anymore.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe that, so I checked.
Speaker 2: I've got a jar of bigger, crunchy peanut butter out
Speaker 2: of the pantry. It carries a label saying made in Australia.
Speaker 2: Then this with quote at least ten percent Australian produce.
Speaker 2: My point here we are with a dominant labor victory
Speaker 2: in May off the back of a promise to make
Speaker 2: things in Australia, and we are going to in the
Speaker 2: other direction at a wrapper rate, even surrounding small country
Speaker 2: towns with foreign owned and foreign made wind turbines dominating
Speaker 2: the Australian fam farming landscape. Look, if Susanly in the
Speaker 2: Coalition want to make some noise starting tomorrow, they might
Speaker 2: start right there. Let's get into our first panel tonight.
Speaker 2: And by sheer coincidence, and I mean that given my
Speaker 2: experience yesterday, farmers in New South Wales have resoundingly rejected
Speaker 2: a wind farm project plans to build ninety wind turbines.
Speaker 2: This is between the towns have been along and Bounding.
Speaker 2: They are clashing with green energy executives. This was a
Speaker 2: fiery hearing at the Bounding town hall yesterday. You've seen
Speaker 2: some of the vision already tonight. But here's some of
Speaker 2: that drama unfolding.
Speaker 3: Avan Tyler's where the best is gone for the transmission
Speaker 3: lines you've driven flats?
Speaker 4: Come on?
Speaker 1: This is it really is? Bush?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Thanks the mental health, let's go into the mental health.
Speaker 1: Everything's alive.
Speaker 4: I'm and I know quite a few are there.
Speaker 5: And I've got rain and out of like that is
Speaker 5: looking in those hills and all actually is turbites right now.
Speaker 2: That farm had tried to raise the issue of mental
Speaker 2: health and someone tried to pull him away. I'm glad
Speaker 2: he kept going. This was reported in the Daily Telegraph
Speaker 2: today by James Willis, who joins me now in our panel,
Speaker 2: as well as Sky and News contributed Joe hild around.
Speaker 3: Great to see you both, Jonames. Can you tell us more?
Speaker 3: What was the how angry was that in that room?
Speaker 6: Well, Steve, I spent a couple of days around Yas.
Speaker 6: This is around three hours from Sydney, and it wasn't
Speaker 6: just Glenn Miller that you heard. It was a number
Speaker 6: of land owners who have been on these properties for decades,
Speaker 6: some of them dating back to World War Two. The
Speaker 6: purchases land that have been feeding the nation or clothing
Speaker 6: the nation.
Speaker 3: When it comes to Marino wool.
Speaker 6: They've had all sorts of issues with fires in regards
Speaker 6: to drought, they've got volatile prices. The export market has
Speaker 6: largely dried up, particularly in regards to wool, and all
Speaker 6: of a sudden, these green energy bureaucrats not bureaucrats rather,
Speaker 6: but executives have come up from Melbourne, have put a
Speaker 6: map in front of them that shows around their property
Speaker 6: and said we're going to be building ninety turbines the
Speaker 6: size of Sydney's Crown Barangaroo, two hundred and sixty meters each. Now,
Speaker 6: the worst part about this, Steve, and I just think
Speaker 6: this is disgraceful behavior, is that a number of landholders
Speaker 6: have done secret deals to host these turbines so they'll
Speaker 6: be financially well off in the years ahead, and the
Speaker 6: neighbors on the neighboring properties just around the edges have
Speaker 6: no deal, found out about this via the neighbors, not
Speaker 6: via the private company, and are now fighting back because
Speaker 6: they're worried about these turbines being on the boundary, the
Speaker 6: impact on land value, all the other potential impacts of
Speaker 6: the construction and the ongo maintenance and everything like that,
Speaker 6: and they're genuinely concerned about what this looks like, don't
Speaker 6: have a voice, have tried to front up, and so
Speaker 6: far they've got nowhere. So we're getting right behind them.
Speaker 6: And as you've said off the top, you mentioned the
Speaker 6: example in Victoria, this is happening right across the country
Speaker 6: with these foreign owned net zero companies. They're coming in
Speaker 6: to make a quick buck and the farmers don't even
Speaker 6: get a cheap power bill out of it. Steve, if
Speaker 6: they're next door, you think they get clean energy or
Speaker 6: cheap energy for the next twenty years. It goes straight
Speaker 6: through to the grid they've forgotten about. I think the
Speaker 6: whole thing is disgraceful and this is one example of
Speaker 6: many across the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just wonder, you know, where's Anthony Albaneze's
Speaker 2: election promise where he said he was going to make
Speaker 2: things in Australia. I mean, these wind turbines, Joe are
Speaker 2: largely produced in China. They're imported into the country. And
Speaker 2: as James and I have just pointed out, there these
Speaker 2: two operations one hundred and twenty two of these things
Speaker 2: at Rokewood ninety nine down there at Bounding. They're just
Speaker 2: taking me over decent agricultu land and splitting rural communities.
Speaker 2: This is going to be end up very ugly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think the thing that you really pointed to that
Speaker 5: nailed was the fact that it is tearing farmers apart.
Speaker 5: That there are farmers who were saying, yes, I want
Speaker 5: this on my land, I can make money out of it,
Speaker 5: and there are farmers who are completely blindsided by that decision,
Speaker 5: and also the perception that these companies and operations that
Speaker 5: don't actually have any real interest in the community. There
Speaker 5: foreign owned and they just want to come in, make
Speaker 5: as much money as they can.
Speaker 3: And get out.
Speaker 5: I was just saying to James off Air about how
Speaker 5: a few years ago I was at a Daily Telegraph
Speaker 5: bush summit in Tamworth and this was a white hot
Speaker 5: issue and again we saw the same thing where it
Speaker 5: wasn't that there was universal opposition to the wind farms.
Speaker 5: It was the fact that people felt like the choice
Speaker 5: wasn't in their hands, that these were decisions that had
Speaker 5: already been made and they didn't get a say in them.
Speaker 5: And that obviously makes people very anxious and angry if
Speaker 5: they think it's going to affect their livelihoods or the
Speaker 5: value of their property and be there there wasn't an
Speaker 5: actual genuine interest, or that these big wind farm operators
Speaker 5: weren't part of the community. And these regional communities are
Speaker 5: really really close knit, and there are other experiences where
Speaker 5: other operators, Australia owned operators were having the reverse result,
Speaker 5: where they were consulting with the community. They were making
Speaker 5: sure that everyone knew where these things were going, that
Speaker 5: the path of the transmission lines or whatever it was
Speaker 5: could be negotiated, that it would have less impact, that
Speaker 5: the company would make sure they invested in community projects
Speaker 5: and things like community sports. So they were seeing as
Speaker 5: actually having a stake in the communities they were sticking
Speaker 5: these things in. So I think these things will be done,
Speaker 5: but they have to be done a lot, a lot better,
Speaker 5: and they have to give people who were impacted either
Speaker 5: a saying what's going on and also compensation.
Speaker 4: If they'll see.
Speaker 6: The final point on that, if I can just make
Speaker 6: it very quickly, is that the price of knits zero
Speaker 6: and the consequence of net zero and the requirement of
Speaker 6: net zero and Frustralia to reduce its emissions surely cannot
Speaker 6: be to force farmers in an already struggling industry. I mean,
Speaker 6: who would be a farmer these days off their land
Speaker 6: for good. We've still got to feed people moving forward,
Speaker 6: and it's going to be forcing them off because of
Speaker 6: these turbine projects or solar panels or transmission lines. Then
Speaker 6: we really really need to consider the social license here
Speaker 6: tiny towns have already done their heavy lifting and if
Speaker 6: it doesn't work, well, then we need to make a
Speaker 6: hard call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you mentioned transmission lines in Victoria. I mean
Speaker 2: the Victorian government is going to force through this massive
Speaker 2: project that runs out of southern New South Wales into Victoria,
Speaker 2: linking all these things up because the current transmission lines
Speaker 2: can't cope with carrying what they're pumping out. And they've
Speaker 2: told farmers, well, this is where it's going, and you've
Speaker 2: got no say. And if you lock your gate and
Speaker 2: refuse to let the people come on and build these
Speaker 2: transmission towers, which are not as big as the turbines,
Speaker 2: but they're still pretty big, then you'll be fined up
Speaker 2: to fourteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Joe.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've got governments finding farmers for wanting to
Speaker 2: have their own land used the way they want to
Speaker 2: use it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And again it is just I mean, in a way,
Speaker 5: it's almost about the bedside manner, isn't it. It's about
Speaker 5: governments just imposing these things from the top down and saying, well,
Speaker 5: we've got the power to do this, and we're going
Speaker 5: to do it whether you like it or not, or
Speaker 5: actually sitting down with farmers, with locals who know the landscape,
Speaker 5: and say, right, is there a way that we could
Speaker 5: put these, in this case, transmission lines in where it
Speaker 5: wouldn't be visible from the house or the neighboring property,
Speaker 5: or where it could follow a tree line, or so
Speaker 5: it wouldn't be as intrusive. Is there a case for
Speaker 5: compensation to make up for the disruption or any use
Speaker 5: of loss of land, or even just the fact that
Speaker 5: these things are clearly not particularly nice to look at.
Speaker 5: So I think these things, you know, are going to
Speaker 5: have to be done. But all everything I've heard is
Speaker 5: that when there is real consultation, and when communities are
Speaker 5: listened to and feel like they're given the opportunity either
Speaker 5: to benefit from it or at least be compensated for it,
Speaker 5: or at least have a say in it, then these
Speaker 5: problems can disappear pretty quickly. But when it is just
Speaker 5: a government saying, right, that's it, here's the line, we're
Speaker 5: following it. If you don't like it, tough, because we've
Speaker 5: got the cops on our side, then that's when you
Speaker 5: see this sort of white hot anger that James's has
Speaker 5: revealed today.
Speaker 2: On the environment and the Greens. I heard an interview
Speaker 2: today on radio with one of the founders of the
Speaker 2: Greens Party, Drew Hutton. Now, Drew Hutton and Bob Brown
Speaker 2: set up the Greens Party back in the eighties.
Speaker 3: Now Drew's been expelled.
Speaker 2: He had confirmed that in the interview I heard today,
Speaker 2: because he had a series of Facebook posts about the
Speaker 2: party's pro transstance. Now it wasn't what he wrote, it
Speaker 2: was the comments that came on the back of that article.
Speaker 2: Now he said, the party's co founder, he said, quote,
Speaker 2: the Greens are basically a cult, and the Colts take
Speaker 2: over the Greens. This is deeply authoritarian cult that is
Speaker 2: opposed to any debate or any free speech on issues
Speaker 2: of gender. These people would expel Bob Brown if he
Speaker 2: said anything they disagreed with. I mean, James, the Greens
Speaker 2: are no longer the Greens that we all grew up with.
Speaker 2: I mean I remember going down the Franklin Dam interviewing
Speaker 2: Bob Brown standing there with his no damn sign. That's
Speaker 2: what the Greens were about. They're now pro Palestine. There
Speaker 2: are about a whole bunch of issues that don't have
Speaker 2: anything to do with the environment.
Speaker 3: It was quite interesting.
Speaker 6: Steve when we spoke about the first issue tonight in
Speaker 6: regards to these farmers fighting back. A lot of the
Speaker 6: farmers that I spoke to in the last few days
Speaker 6: around Yas would be greenies, would probably vote green, or
Speaker 6: traditionally vote close to Green, but the party has gone
Speaker 6: so far to the wacky left you couldn't even call
Speaker 6: them left now. I mean, they're sort of diagonal left.
Speaker 6: I'd say maybe lower left. Joe would probably be able
Speaker 6: to clarify that a little bit better, but certainly we
Speaker 6: saw it the last federal election wash against the Greens
Speaker 6: and the swings towards labor and the focus that people
Speaker 6: like Adam Band had on issues in the Middle East,
Speaker 6: which I mean is just astonishing. And the fact that
Speaker 6: green governments in other parts of the world, particularly in Europe,
Speaker 6: embrace things like nuclear power. Elected governments that are sort
Speaker 6: of in power, that are green, that are saying that
Speaker 6: we need nuclear as part of our energy mix moving forward.
Speaker 6: They've just lost their way.
Speaker 1: They need new leadership.
Speaker 6: They need to come back to the right or the
Speaker 6: upper right or whatever the opposite is of what I
Speaker 6: just said. But it's crazy stuff and we saw that,
Speaker 6: and they were punished at the ballot box and rightly so.
Speaker 3: Well, Joe's an expert on the levels of left right.
Speaker 3: Clear that up for us.
Speaker 2: But Joe, we now know why Adam Bent lost at
Speaker 2: Ceedar Melbourne, don't we. I mean Cedar Melbourne is full
Speaker 2: of Green voters, but they turned on him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5: Basically, the Greens have become sort of hollowed down out
Speaker 5: and replaced with communists, basically by stalinists, the extreme hard
Speaker 5: left who needed a place to go after the Communist
Speaker 5: Party of Australia and various other organizations were clearly discovered
Speaker 5: they were not going to win any elections anytime soon,
Speaker 5: and that all these people basically infiltrated the Greens in
Speaker 5: a similar way. So they rushed to infiltrate the UK
Speaker 5: Labor Party under Jeremy Corbyn.
Speaker 1: And this is the result.
Speaker 5: I mean, imagine Bob Brown defending the vandalism or defacement
Speaker 5: of Australian wargraves or the Australian War Memorial.
Speaker 3: I mean, it just would never ever happen.
Speaker 5: And this party that used to be kind of perhaps
Speaker 5: slightly idealistic, but fairly you know, lovable, peaceful, harmless hippies
Speaker 5: who just wanted to save the environment has become overrun
Speaker 5: by hardcore Marxist ideologues, and so it does come with
Speaker 5: a whole suite of sort of a shopping trolley full
Speaker 5: of beliefs that you have to either take or leave
Speaker 5: on mass, in which you have to absolutely pledge, full
Speaker 5: throat at fundamental, uncompromising, one hundred percent allegiance to Otherwise
Speaker 5: you are immediately denounced and you're effectively politically taken out
Speaker 5: the back and shot. And that's exactly what happened with
Speaker 5: Drew Hutton. The trans right stuff, that's just a mcguffin.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter whether it's the issue of trans rights,
Speaker 5: or if it's Palestine or any host of any other
Speaker 5: issues you could name. They say, right, this is the
Speaker 5: most ideologically pure position. This is our position. We can
Speaker 5: afford to take it, however unrealistic it is, because we
Speaker 5: never actually have to make decisions or balance a budget
Speaker 5: or be held accountable. And if you don't adopt it,
Speaker 5: you're out mate. You get taken out the back as
Speaker 5: a trader, as someone who has failed to toe the
Speaker 5: labor's party line. And again that's why you have in
Speaker 5: Victorian Greens as well. There are all these schisms between
Speaker 5: you know, sort of people who are hardcore feminists who
Speaker 5: are now being told that they have to have taken
Speaker 5: biological male people in their bathrooms with the.
Speaker 2: Mate taken out them, taken out the back and executed.
Speaker 3: Joe James. Good to see you boys. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Mate.
Speaker 3: We'll catch up with you next week. Now.
Speaker 2: I sped last week, as I said, in Adelaide, and
Speaker 2: I can tell you South Australians were filthy that an environmental,
Speaker 2: speaking of the environment, environmental disaster was unfolding on their doorstep.
Speaker 2: Now until today, this has been largely ignored by Canberra.
Speaker 2: It's an algae bloom that started south and South Australian
Speaker 2: capital that since spread north along even suburban Adelaide beaches,
Speaker 2: killing marine life, threatening tourism leading into the warmer months.
Speaker 2: I mean, those beaches are beautiful, but who's going to
Speaker 2: drive over to South Australia to swim there if you've
Speaker 2: got this bloom attack underway?
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I heard an interview on Adelaide's talkback station five Double
Speaker 2: A on Friday with the Federal Minister for the Environment
Speaker 2: and Water Murray What who basically said, oh well, I'll
Speaker 2: go and look into this outbreak. I mean what followed
Speaker 2: was a barrage of angry callers labeling worry what the
Speaker 2: Minister for Mirrors are always looking into things now? He,
Speaker 2: I believe, was shocked by the reaction, and I tailed
Speaker 2: it over to Adelaide today to have a look for
Speaker 2: himself and talk to people in the fisheries industry about
Speaker 2: the impact. One oyster farmer by the way on your
Speaker 2: peninsula says he's not been able to harvest and cell
Speaker 2: oysters for over seventy days, so that's how long this
Speaker 2: has been going on for. And a worker I talked
Speaker 2: to face to face on Friday pumping sand along Adelaide's
Speaker 2: beaches even told me that a baby dolphin at Glenelg
Speaker 2: had to be euthanized last week after.
Speaker 3: It washed up barely alive.
Speaker 2: Now late today, miraculously we learn the federal government's going
Speaker 2: to sign a check for fourteen million dollars for a
Speaker 2: rescue plan. But still no declaration of a natural disaster
Speaker 2: as you would have say, during a flood or a cyclone.
Speaker 2: Joining me now, South Australian Liberal Senator Leah blythe a
Speaker 2: senator too little, too late from Murray, what.
Speaker 7: Dolphins, seals, all sorts of marine life.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, you got me?
Speaker 7: Sorry, yes, So I was going to say, this has
Speaker 7: been going on for months in South Australia and we
Speaker 7: have had marine life washing up along our beaches. I
Speaker 7: was briefed by the Department back in June and they
Speaker 7: were saying if this hit the metropolitan beaches, that would
Speaker 7: be absolute worst case scenario. That's now happened. This is
Speaker 7: far too little, too late. What has the government been
Speaker 7: doing for all of these months preparing South Australians looking
Speaker 7: out for fisheries. I mean it's hundreds of millions of dollars.
Speaker 7: Those industries are worth to the national economy and they've
Speaker 7: heard nothing until today. So you know, this seems to
Speaker 7: be something that's happening at the eve of Federal Parliament
Speaker 7: going back. It's not enough and we want to see more.
Speaker 2: And what flies in and starts peering at the sand.
Speaker 2: I mean he would not have a clue. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm a South Australian, so I understand the purity of
Speaker 2: the seafood industry out of your state. Whether it's fish
Speaker 2: or whether it's crayfish, whether it's.
Speaker 3: Oysters, prawns, you name it.
Speaker 2: That is all at risk, let alone the impact this
Speaker 2: might have down the track on tourism.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, and as you've mentioned, we've got oyster farmers who
Speaker 7: haven't been able to harvest their oysters and sell them on.
Speaker 7: And you know, I'm biased, I'm born and bred in Adelaide,
Speaker 7: but i think we have some of the best seafood
Speaker 7: in the world, and you know it is at risk
Speaker 7: of some of those international markets that we export into.
Speaker 7: But also we're very spoiled in South Australia. We get
Speaker 7: to eat some of the most amazing seafood and I'm
Speaker 7: really concerned. We've got regional communities that absolutely rely on
Speaker 7: the seafood and aquaculture industries in South Australia and they
Speaker 7: haven't been able to do their jobs. So this is
Speaker 7: this is absolutely impacting the livelihoods of everyday Australians and
Speaker 7: South Australians along our coast, and there doesn't seem to
Speaker 7: be any sort of plan. And you know, I might
Speaker 7: add that these are communities that are also facing significant
Speaker 7: drought in South Australia, so this is just something else
Speaker 7: to add to their plate. And as you've rightly mentioned,
Speaker 7: you know we will come into peak tourism season as
Speaker 7: the months get warmer. You know, do you want to
Speaker 7: be going to our beautiful, pristine seaside locations if we've
Speaker 7: got dead marine life washing up on it? You know
Speaker 7: that it's not something that our tourists are going to
Speaker 7: want to do.
Speaker 3: Leah.
Speaker 2: What puzzles me is Premier melnowskis, who I've got some
Speaker 2: regard for. I think, you know, he's one of the
Speaker 2: good guys in the in the Labor party. What has
Speaker 2: he been shouting at Canberra saying what are you going
Speaker 2: to do? I've not seen any reports of him making
Speaker 2: a rock solid case to his labor mates in Canberra
Speaker 2: to get this situation under control and fixed.
Speaker 7: It seems like they were sort of burying their head
Speaker 7: in the sand, so to speak. And that's a little
Speaker 7: bit of a pun when we're looking at coastal waters.
Speaker 7: But I certainly didn't see any evidence of that. In
Speaker 7: South Australia. It was very much let's wait and watch
Speaker 7: and see what happens. And what seems to have happened
Speaker 7: is the worst case scenario is now playing out for
Speaker 7: South Australia and it certainly appears to me as a
Speaker 7: South Australian that the government, both state and federal have
Speaker 7: been caught unawares and unprepared, and it is really really disappointing,
Speaker 7: as I said, for all of those businesses that rely
Speaker 7: on the ocean for their livelihood and tourists that want
Speaker 7: to come and enjoy the pristine waters, not to mention
Speaker 7: just local South Australians who walk every day with their
Speaker 7: dogs and their children along the beaches. You know, we've
Speaker 7: had even instances of dogs that have been sick because
Speaker 7: of the algall blooms. So you know, this is something
Speaker 7: where I don't think the premiere of South Australia has
Speaker 7: done enough to put this absolute disaster on the map.
Speaker 7: And I think it's fair to say, you know, we've
Speaker 7: been saying for a long time that if this was
Speaker 7: on the coast of Sydney or Melbourne, we would have
Speaker 7: seen action far sooner. And you know, today, while I
Speaker 7: welcome sum Relay, fourteen million dollars is a drop in
Speaker 7: the ocean. You know, we are talking about, you know,
Speaker 7: half a billion dollar industry and this is not going
Speaker 7: to help. That doesn't even take into account tourism providers,
Speaker 7: you know, people that are going out recreational fishes. This
Speaker 7: is you know, far too little and I don't think
Speaker 7: we are going to see any kind of plan in
Speaker 7: terms of what does it mean when the water's warm
Speaker 7: up again with the warmer summer months coming, are we
Speaker 7: going to see the bloom get bigger?
Speaker 8: You know, where.
Speaker 7: Is the planning that's coming to make sure that South Australians.
Speaker 1: Are prepared.
Speaker 3: A complete disaster?
Speaker 2: And you know, keep talking about it because obviously Camber
Speaker 2: needs to be embarrassed before they do anything. Senator, thank
Speaker 2: you very much for your time tonight. Now coming up
Speaker 2: after the break still to come, Victoria's facing what is
Speaker 2: called an economic day of reckoning?
Speaker 3: Is it ever?
Speaker 2: That's the assessment of experts from out of the state.
Speaker 2: I'll be joined by Shadow Victorian Treasurer James Newbury a
Speaker 2: little later to discuss that. But first up, politicians. They're
Speaker 2: all back in Canberra this week. The PM even walked
Speaker 2: to work with his son as the Liberal Party languishes
Speaker 2: in the polls. Radio legend Ray Hadley, a regular with
Speaker 2: Shari on a Tuesday on a Monday night, will join
Speaker 2: me live. That's up next, welcome back to see price
Speaker 2: in for Sharima.
Speaker 3: All this week and next.
Speaker 2: Now Prime minust Anthony Albanez. He walked to work today
Speaker 2: with his son Nice Pitchers, and he addressed the Labor
Speaker 2: Party caucus once he got there. Parliament doesn't sit until
Speaker 2: tomorrow and that will largely be ceremonial. It won't have
Speaker 2: a question time. I don't think it was exactly a
Speaker 2: visionary speech, but the Prime Minister did promise quote a
Speaker 2: year of delivery for Australians.
Speaker 9: Have a look at what he had to say, permanently
Speaker 9: lowing people's power bills as well as helping the entire
Speaker 9: system because it takes pressure off.
Speaker 10: The energy grid.
Speaker 4: That is our down.
Speaker 10: Payment on what will be our year of delivery. That
Speaker 10: is our focus. We've just been through an election. We
Speaker 10: had clear commitments and we want to deliver them this
Speaker 10: week and this fortnite. We start on the next trunch.
Speaker 2: Well, that comment at the beginning there, it was about
Speaker 2: batteries and people being able to put the.
Speaker 3: Energy that they actually bring in in.
Speaker 2: Solar and wind into a battery. Well, the whole thing
Speaker 2: seemed like a grab bag of handing out money, which
Speaker 2: I guess is what got Anthony Albaniz he elected in
Speaker 2: the first place. Hex's debt payments to youngsters, maternity leaves, superannuation,
Speaker 2: minimum wage rises, all very labor promises. Joining me now
Speaker 2: Sharrige Monday Night regular and my old mate from Rato
Speaker 2: two GB days now a retired professional golfer and professional grandfather,
Speaker 2: Ray Hadley.
Speaker 3: Great to catch up with you, my friend.
Speaker 11: How are you who could believe it too retired or
Speaker 11: semi retired in your case shock jocks back together. We
Speaker 11: started our time to back in most two thousand at
Speaker 11: the Sydney Olympics when I only did sport and you
Speaker 11: were a trumpet three aw and gave me the gig.
Speaker 1: And I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 11: And here we are back there. Did all the work,
Speaker 11: well that was you did all the work.
Speaker 3: I did all the celebrating.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you're on that boat down on the harbor somewhere
Speaker 11: most of the time.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 11: Anyway, we got bigger fister right now, Steve, look my
Speaker 11: eyes glaze over every time is to talk about energy.
Speaker 2: Well, you and I at some time over the past
Speaker 2: few years have had some regard for Anthony alber Easy.
Speaker 2: I mean you used to have him regularly on radio.
Speaker 2: I used to talk to him occasionally on radio. I
Speaker 2: once went and had a very pleasant lunch with him.
Speaker 2: That was when he was both in opposition serving under Rudden.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't seem to have grown into the job
Speaker 2: at all. You're a great observer of these things. What's
Speaker 2: happened to his personality.
Speaker 11: He's been promoted beyond his station in life, That's simply
Speaker 11: what's happened.
Speaker 1: I used to knock around with him at football games.
Speaker 1: He's an Arden South City supporter.
Speaker 11: Of course, when I called a lot of football back
Speaker 11: in the day, and I always had a lot of
Speaker 11: time for him. But as I just said, my eyes
Speaker 11: glaze over every time I listened to him talk about energy.
Speaker 1: I listened to Joe and James a bit earlier.
Speaker 11: The greens are non event now and we're relying upon
Speaker 11: Casnova Bowen and the Prime Minister to guide us through
Speaker 11: wind farms, solar panels, electric cars that only get your
Speaker 11: three hundred and fifty k's in a pinch and then recharge.
Speaker 1: In the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 11: We've got offshore wind farms being spoken about still, despite
Speaker 11: the fact that people that are supposed to build them
Speaker 11: from Europe said leave us out of it.
Speaker 1: The tender process is flowed.
Speaker 11: We don't want to do it anymore, either off Wollongong
Speaker 11: or Port Stevens and probably off the Victorian.
Speaker 1: Coast as well.
Speaker 11: And I mean he just said again in that clip
Speaker 11: you played for your viewers that you know he's promising reductions.
Speaker 1: We've been listening to that for four years. Where's the
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five bucks we were promised all
Speaker 1: those years ago?
Speaker 11: Never materialized and this is just another promise that he'll
Speaker 11: break down the track.
Speaker 3: Yeah he got I.
Speaker 2: Mean you think he would have learned, because I mean
Speaker 2: he went around promising low power bills and we never
Speaker 2: got him. As you say, it's interesting too the words
Speaker 2: that have disappeared out of the agenda. Now we don't
Speaker 2: hear much about the cost of living crisis anymore. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you about the opposition in a moment,
Speaker 2: because part of that is their fault. But Albo doesn't
Speaker 2: seem to realize he's off running around with pandas and
Speaker 2: wandering around the Great Wall of China. How does he
Speaker 2: think that looks to people sitting down in their lounge
Speaker 2: room tonight with their electricity bill, trying to work out
Speaker 2: if they can pay their mortgage next month.
Speaker 11: He should be more concerned about what Donald Trump thinks
Speaker 11: about him having his fourth visit to the Chinese leader
Speaker 11: without even meeting Donald Trump, despite him being there for
Speaker 11: a fair time, and as you say, it was all
Speaker 11: about pandas it was all about feeling good and hail fellow,
Speaker 11: well met, and then misquoted a Taiwan as the Chinese do.
Speaker 11: They said, I know he's fully supporting us moving into
Speaker 11: Taiwan and taking over.
Speaker 1: It's not what he said.
Speaker 11: But because he's over there shaking hands and glad handing
Speaker 11: the Chinese leaders looking like one of them, well of
Speaker 11: course they're going to misquote him and misuse his language
Speaker 11: and say things he didn't say. And he's got to
Speaker 11: now clarify all that and say, well, on a second, now,
Speaker 11: I'm opposed to what they're trying to do to Taiwan.
Speaker 11: And he still has enunciated really in clear terms that
Speaker 11: we rely upon the United States of America, not just
Speaker 11: in trade, but they saved us in World War tours.
Speaker 1: I've said here previously with.
Speaker 11: Shari, and if we're in strife sometime down the track,
Speaker 11: we're going to need some help from them again. So
Speaker 11: he's got to really really work hard to make sure
Speaker 11: they're not offside, particularly the leader. He's got to make
Speaker 11: sure Donald Trump's happy with him, and whatever it takes,
Speaker 11: he's got to do it.
Speaker 3: You've always been a winner in life.
Speaker 2: How'd you like to be? Susan lee trying to run
Speaker 2: the coalition? She's staring at least six years probably in opposition.
Speaker 2: The Libs are down to the worst polling figures they've
Speaker 2: had since the nineteen forties, their primary votes down at
Speaker 2: twenty nine percent. Is that brand, in your view savable?
Speaker 2: I mean, could Jerry Harvey even savored.
Speaker 1: No, not if he offered you five years interest free.
Speaker 11: As far as Susan Leed's concerned, I've said before she
Speaker 11: won't lead the party.
Speaker 1: To the next election. I wouldn't think and that's not
Speaker 1: denigrating her.
Speaker 11: But you know they've been battling all these weeks and
Speaker 11: months since the election about gender equality and the first
Speaker 11: thing she did when she's in the chair and sack
Speaker 11: two of the most capable females that were serving under
Speaker 11: Peter Dutton. Look, it's uninspiring stuff. I'm not surprised by
Speaker 11: the news poll out the day. They've got a herculian task.
Speaker 11: Of course, it's not good use for labor. Either their
Speaker 11: primary voters down as well, but two party preferred. They've
Speaker 11: increased their lead over what they did in May, so
Speaker 11: you know they're coasting along. But look they've been looking
Speaker 11: at themselves for the last three or four months. They've
Speaker 11: been talking about things both in New South Wales and
Speaker 11: federally that people.
Speaker 1: Don't care about.
Speaker 11: They don't care about gender equality, and they don't care
Speaker 11: about whether they.
Speaker 1: Want the best person in the Liberal Party for the job.
Speaker 11: That's what they want, and it happens to be Susan Lee,
Speaker 11: or it happens to be just hit a.
Speaker 1: Price or anyone else. That's who they want doing it.
Speaker 11: And they're preoccupied with all this stuff and it's just
Speaker 11: it's green stuff. And as Jay said, I mean the
Speaker 11: Greens are being wiped off the face of the earth
Speaker 11: because the environmentalists who started the party been taken over
Speaker 11: by these people who have social agendas, namely at the moment,
Speaker 11: Palestine and Gaza and supporting Hamas and all the other
Speaker 11: rubbish they go on with. And they're irrelevant now. But
Speaker 11: Susan Lee faces a peculian task to pull this all together.
Speaker 1: I don't think she can do it. I don't know
Speaker 1: who can in the party.
Speaker 11: Maybe Hasty down the track, I don't know, but I
Speaker 11: don't think she can lead them to the next election
Speaker 11: and have any hap of winning.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you mention this because I mean you and
Speaker 2: I could go out with a bag one hundred dollar
Speaker 2: notes in the street. You would not find one person
Speaker 2: who could tell you who the opposition leader of New
Speaker 2: South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, and you might get wa
Speaker 2: because it's Basil Zempless and he's known for doing what
Speaker 2: you do so well, calling sport. They wouldn't know, They
Speaker 2: would have no clue about the rest of them. So
Speaker 2: they're not only in trouble at a federal level, they're
Speaker 2: just a basket case in the States.
Speaker 11: Well, I'd leave Victoria to you because of your expertise
Speaker 11: down there, but I can talk with some authority in
Speaker 11: New South Wales. Mark Speakman, every day he leads the
Speaker 11: Liberal Opposition is a day further away from being elected.
Speaker 11: Chris Mins, who's not perfect but pretty good, plays him
Speaker 11: off a break and when really important things are up
Speaker 11: for the bait. Mark Speakman's are catautionous. Elian's further left
Speaker 11: than some people on the Labor Party. But the problem
Speaker 11: is the same as Susan Lee, who you replace him with.
Speaker 11: There's some very capable women in the Liberal Party in
Speaker 11: New South Wales, but they're not quite ready I don't
Speaker 11: think to take over.
Speaker 1: But it's the same deal with him.
Speaker 11: They can't possibly win an election in New South Wales with.
Speaker 1: Mark Speakman as leader. And one day they're.
Speaker 11: Going to wake up with the fact and say, oh jeez,
Speaker 11: we've made a blue ear.
Speaker 1: We better move in another direction.
Speaker 11: And as you say, you know among New South Wales vaders,
Speaker 11: I think you find half of them, whether the.
Speaker 1: Liberal supporters Labor supporters. If you put a photo up,
Speaker 1: they'd be flat out identifying here he is.
Speaker 2: I just want to give you a minute to talk
Speaker 2: about the Newsander campaign to Save the Children campaign. I
Speaker 2: know you're an ambassador for this. What is this trying
Speaker 2: to achieve?
Speaker 11: Well, quite simply working with children checks conducted on the
Speaker 11: state by state basis, Steve hasn't worked.
Speaker 1: It hasn't worked. Pedophiles by their.
Speaker 11: Very nature are devious individuals and what they're able to
Speaker 11: do is cherry picked from one jurisdiction to the other,
Speaker 11: as we've seen. Without going into the legalities of it
Speaker 11: in both Queensland and Victoria at the moment, and after
Speaker 11: the Raw Commission that Julia Gillard God bless Her initiated,
Speaker 11: we get to twenty eighteen and the commissioners said, among
Speaker 11: many recommendations, we need one national body for working with children.
Speaker 11: We've had successive Liberal National Party governments and Labor governments
Speaker 11: ignore that plea from the Raw Commissioners. So surely, to
Speaker 11: goodness Michelle Rowland, the Attorney General and the attorneys general
Speaker 11: across the states, and the chief ministers from the two
Speaker 11: places we're talking about, Canberra, the Act and Northern Territory,
Speaker 11: they've already said, along with five premiers, we need to
Speaker 11: make it national. It's too hard to deal with on
Speaker 11: a state by state basis. A national register is needed.
Speaker 11: As you and I well know. I'm a grandfather of seven,
Speaker 11: a father of four. We need to protect children. They're
Speaker 11: our greatest asset. And at the moment, given the charges
Speaker 11: against these men in Victoria and the conviction and the
Speaker 11: guilty plea from the Blake in Queensland Ashlee Griffith, I
Speaker 11: mean it's a race to the bottom. So it's a
Speaker 11: very simple one for the Attorney General look, I beg you, Michelle, you're.
Speaker 1: A good person.
Speaker 11: Line them up at the meeting next month and say, listen, guys,
Speaker 11: what we're doing is it's national.
Speaker 1: No debate required, it's national.
Speaker 11: We're going to formulate a policy to give the working
Speaker 11: with children check a national register so these grubs can't
Speaker 11: cherry pick where they work with children.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well said, good luck with that campaign. I hope
Speaker 2: it's very successful. Very nice to catch up with you,
Speaker 2: my old friend, Ray Hadley. They're now coming up after
Speaker 2: the break of Bombshall report from the US Director of
Speaker 2: National Intelligence accusing the Obama administration of all things of
Speaker 2: a year's long campaign or a coup against Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Skye News contributor Kosher Gada has the latest on that,
Speaker 2: plus surging crime woes and tea and biscuits. What on
Speaker 2: earth's going on in Victoria?
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I've learned not to be surprised by anything the Victorian
Speaker 2: State Labor government does. But this will make your hair curl.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's got to be night works on the
Speaker 2: dreaded suburban rail loop at a place called Heatherton in Melbourne,
Speaker 2: and the people who live in the surrounding areas had
Speaker 2: a knock on the door and someone handed over a
Speaker 2: package which was supposed to make them feel better about
Speaker 2: being awake all night while machinery bores its way through
Speaker 2: the ground around their houses. They were given a paper
Speaker 2: bag full of tea and biscuits. I'm not kidding that
Speaker 2: construction of a stabling yard. It'll continue until ten o'clock
Speaker 2: at night, every night, seven days a week. Joining me
Speaker 2: in our shadow, Victorian Treasurer James Newbury. I mean you
Speaker 2: imagine the look on people's faces, James, when someone turns
Speaker 2: up with a package of tea and biscuits and saying,
Speaker 2: I don't worry, We're only going to work till ten
Speaker 2: o'clock at night.
Speaker 4: Pretty condescending, isn't it.
Speaker 8: Can you imagine someone jack hammering against your wall and
Speaker 8: just Cindra Avellan sends you a tea bag. I mean, seriously,
Speaker 8: it's got to be a joke. Sadly, in Victoria, it's not.
Speaker 8: So you're going to be up all night and just
Speaker 8: Cinterre Allen's solution is to send you a couple of
Speaker 8: tea bags. Well, you're going to be sitting up in
Speaker 8: bed because the government doesn't care about where you live.
Speaker 4: It doesn't care about your amenity.
Speaker 8: It doesn't care about Frankly, you're having sleep at night,
Speaker 8: But don't worry.
Speaker 4: Just Cintra Allen's going to send you a tea bag.
Speaker 8: I mean, let's be frank I mean, she's really giving
Speaker 8: Victorians the two fingers salute, isn't she?
Speaker 12: She is?
Speaker 2: And I'll get it on a moment to machetes. And
Speaker 2: what's happened at another shopping center in the last three
Speaker 2: or four days where a man tragically lost his hand.
Speaker 3: In your role as.
Speaker 2: Shadow treasure businesses in Victoria, you hear about it day
Speaker 2: after day after day. Places shutting in record numbers, unemployment,
Speaker 2: tough regulation. And there's some new data in the Herald
Speaker 2: some today showing a forty eight percent annual increase of
Speaker 2: the number of businesses that have collapsed or in have
Speaker 2: a financial controller in charge. Doesn't surprise me. I bet
Speaker 2: it doesn't surprise you.
Speaker 8: No. And the speed of closure, by comparison to other
Speaker 8: states is what's really shocking. So the level of growth
Speaker 8: year on year is exponential in Victoria. But you hear
Speaker 8: lots of numbers, and you know forty four thy three
Speaker 8: hundred roughly over the last year but let me break
Speaker 8: that down so that people understand just under a dozen a.
Speaker 4: Day over the year, every day over the year. So
Speaker 4: that's the number you need to remember.
Speaker 8: In Victoria, about a dozen a day are closing in
Speaker 8: this state.
Speaker 4: Are we surprised? No taxes?
Speaker 8: We know the government's already increased over sixty two of them.
Speaker 8: We know that taxes are too high. We know that
Speaker 8: energy costs are too high. I mean, is there anything
Speaker 8: that government's not doing well?
Speaker 4: Actually, there's one thing.
Speaker 8: The government's not doing to businesses. It's not seending them
Speaker 8: tea bags. But apart from that, it's taxing them out
Speaker 8: of existence. It's bleeding them through energy costs. And now
Speaker 8: we're losing on average twelve a day, a dozen a day.
Speaker 4: It's shocking.
Speaker 8: I mean, frankly, we've got a small business closure crisis
Speaker 8: and the only thing the Victorian government is doing is
Speaker 8: it's in the business of shutting down businesses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tragedy and the economy is just so
Speaker 2: weak it's on its knees. I mentioned machetes. I thought
Speaker 2: that it takes a lot to shock Melbourne people now
Speaker 2: because we've seen pictures of people running down Chapel Street
Speaker 2: with a machete in their hands. But a bloke in
Speaker 2: a shopping center at the weekend there was two attacks,
Speaker 2: one a teenager still fighting for his life, another tragically
Speaker 2: losing his hand. These attacks came where they just they
Speaker 2: wanted his phone and they lashed out at a machete.
Speaker 2: I thought the Premier was going to ban machetes, I
Speaker 2: mean the sales ban, but she's going to wait until
Speaker 2: September to make it illegal as I understand it, to carry.
Speaker 4: One, that's right. I mean, why wait?
Speaker 8: These crimes, every single crime that occurs over the delay
Speaker 8: until the Premier does something properly and brings in the
Speaker 8: changes now are frankly at the government's feet, aren't they.
Speaker 8: I mean, just down the road from where I am now,
Speaker 8: only a couple of weeks ago, there was a shooting
Speaker 8: in a suburban street and I met with dozens of
Speaker 8: local residents who are saying, well, what if there's a
Speaker 8: ricochet bullet?
Speaker 4: What about our kids?
Speaker 8: I mean, you go to a super you go to
Speaker 8: a shopping center and you might have your hands chopped off.
Speaker 8: You're in a suburban street and you've got to watch
Speaker 8: out for stray bullets. The proof is in the pudding
Speaker 8: in Victoria. And as I said, every time the government
Speaker 8: talks about crime, and just Cindre Allen talks about crime,
Speaker 8: I say, she's not going to fix it. You know,
Speaker 8: Victorians don't believe she's going.
Speaker 4: To fix it.
Speaker 8: They're all hollow words. The premier is just the queen
Speaker 8: of vacant words.
Speaker 4: She says things to try and buy herself time.
Speaker 8: But you know, we're contesting with stray bullets and machetes
Speaker 8: chopping off people's hands in Victoria. If you're living into state,
Speaker 8: you think this is some kind of dream. I mean,
Speaker 8: you can't imagine this stuff and stuff happening in Victoria.
Speaker 8: But just I mean, it's shocking, isn't it.
Speaker 2: It's an absolute nightmare. I mean, she is just a
Speaker 2: failure as a premier. There's no doubt about that. James,
Speaker 2: as usual, thank you very much for joining us. We'll
Speaker 2: catch up again soon. Now, coming up, Tulsi Gabbard's shocking
Speaker 2: Obama accusation and another US socialist secures mayoral nomination. Sky
Speaker 2: News contributor Kosher Garda talks about that right after the break.
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Let's talk American politics. Now, let's bring in
Speaker 2: Kosher Garda Sky News contributor Kosher. Great to see you again.
Speaker 2: What has Tulsi Gabbard, who is the Director of National Intelligence,
Speaker 2: what she's accused the former Obama administration of doing a coup?
Speaker 12: Yes, creative with you, Steve, So. This is pretty historic news.
Speaker 12: But I would say it's the beginnings of what could
Speaker 12: be historic rather than the release itself in terms of
Speaker 12: what kind of accountability is received because of it or
Speaker 12: is effectuated because of it. This is all about, you know,
Speaker 12: what's been now in the monikerb been known as Russia gauge,
Speaker 12: or the Russia collusion hoax or Trump cocluding with Russia,
Speaker 12: that whole thing that has been largely discredited and it
Speaker 12: led to the Mulor investigation and all sorts of other
Speaker 12: things that ended up doing nothing. And Trump obviously has
Speaker 12: been re elected in a landslide victory. However, the American
Speaker 12: people feel like that the accountability for that and a
Speaker 12: true proper investigation for that has never quite been had,
Speaker 12: even though other actors like Devin Nunaz and Ratcliffe and
Speaker 12: others have talked about it. She now in her role
Speaker 12: for the last six months, has gone in there and
Speaker 12: done sort of a forensic audit of what kind of
Speaker 12: steps led to that that foundational report that led the
Speaker 12: Obama administration into believing that there is collusion with Russian
Speaker 12: that the quote unquote hacked the US election in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 12: And she's basically released over one hundred documents that detail
Speaker 12: that there is no intelligence that was saying that was
Speaker 12: the case until December, right after President elect Trump won
Speaker 12: the election, and then suddenly they did a U turn
Speaker 12: and created this intelligence allegedly that led to the ground
Speaker 12: sool of everything else that happened from that. So this
Speaker 12: is a big deal if it leads to indictments and
Speaker 12: arrests of people, maybe not Obama but others in his
Speaker 12: orbit Clapper, Brennan, et cetera. But that we'll sit with
Speaker 12: the DOJ. Pambondi, and it remains to be seen if
Speaker 12: that happens.
Speaker 2: Democrats A said, I mean, how populous is former President
Speaker 2: Obama still in the States.
Speaker 12: He is popular, and that is one of many reasons
Speaker 12: why people believe he is untouchable. Even if these allegations
Speaker 12: are true, and how much was he personally involved in it?
Speaker 12: Obviously none of that has been litigated. It would be
Speaker 12: a big deal to go after any president, including him.
Speaker 12: The issue is the rubicon has been crossed the way
Speaker 12: in which they went after Trump from raiding his home
Speaker 12: and indiced in him and rusting him for all sorts
Speaker 12: of things. But I don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 12: It's more other people that are not exactly sympathetic figures
Speaker 12: around him, like the head of the CIA under him,
Speaker 12: John Brennan, or the head of d and I, James Clapper,
Speaker 12: James Comey of the FBI. These people are not exactly
Speaker 12: sympathetic figures. And it will be very interesting if Tulsia
Speaker 12: Gabbard's released today is a first step towards seeing some
Speaker 12: kind of accountability in terms of indictments. But a lot
Speaker 12: of people are not holding their breath because it's been
Speaker 12: eight years now since that and nothing has really happened.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Democrats, what's the Minnesota branch up to
Speaker 2: that I've endorsed a Democrat, socialist and farlift candidate Oma Feta.
Speaker 3: What do we know about him?
Speaker 12: Yeah? So this is from Minnesota, of course, which was
Speaker 12: the springboard for the infamous twenty twenty riots in the
Speaker 12: Black Lives Matter movement and all the rest of it.
Speaker 12: He is being indoorsed. He's another socialist who was born
Speaker 12: in DC, but he's of Somalian heritage and he just
Speaker 12: feels like he's cut from a cloth as Mamdani from
Speaker 12: New York. And if you look around the world, the
Speaker 12: mayor of London, the mayor of Rotterdam, the mayor of
Speaker 12: Calgary are all sort of similar people with very left
Speaker 12: wing socialist proclivities, and they come from backgrounds that are
Speaker 12: probably not representative of the majority of these cities that
Speaker 12: they're presiding over. He hasn't won, of course. The election
Speaker 12: is in November, and he's going up against the incumbent,
Speaker 12: who was somebody who famously cried crocodile tears during Black
Speaker 12: Lives Matter Jacob Fryes his name and did a lot
Speaker 12: of pandering to this group. And I think the lesson
Speaker 12: here is pandering will only take you so far, because
Speaker 12: now he's potentially being challenged by somebody that is much
Speaker 12: more to the left of him, and everything that he
Speaker 12: did is not necessarily serving him very well for his reelection.
Speaker 11: VID.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not going to go well for them. Kausher,
Speaker 2: appreciate your time. I'll talk to you again next Monday,
Speaker 2: not now.
Speaker 3: The prisons.
Speaker 2: Speaking to prison Trump, he's a bit to go to Scotland.
Speaker 2: He's going to open a brand new golf course. He'll
Speaker 2: be out of the country, and he's He also told
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders and the MLB's Cleveland Guardians, go back
Speaker 2: to your original names. Forget about that. Become the Washington
Speaker 2: Redskins again, and become the Cleveland Indians again. I wonder
Speaker 2: how that'll go down with those various teams. But Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: he does what he wants. I'll see himorrow night.