1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: You've got Jason Lauren. Clint's here from the newsroom as well. Hey, 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: speaking of which, Clint a lot of time in your 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: news I hear you covering ramping. Ambulance ramping is a 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: story here in Melbourne, which. 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: By the way, occurs when paramedics are made to wait 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: at hospitals at the entrance because they can't actually admit 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: the patient into the hospital because there's no room. 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: And I've got a mate who's a paramedic and he 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: was saying sometimes in his whole shift he might only 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: attend to patients because most of the time he could 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: spend four hours sitting there just next to the stretcher 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: at the hospital waiting for admission, which is crazy, and 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: that means the ambulance is just sitting in the loading dock. 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: I experienced this firsthand yesterday. It was late yesterday afternoon. 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: I had what I call thirty minutes of freedom. The 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: missus said, if you want to get out of here 17 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: for thirty minutes, I know you want to do some 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: work on your phone, why don't you go up the 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: street grab a beer. So went up to the East 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: Boundary Hotel just on Center Road there in Bentley and 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: as I turned into the car park. I noticed an 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: elderly lady lying face down in the car park. There 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: was a staff member from the pub standing next to her, 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: and he was just making sure no cars hit her. 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: And I quickly got out of the car and ran 26 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: over to see if I could help. Was she on 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: the road, No, she was on the bitchaman, but in 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: the car park. Oh gosh, And I've run over and 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: she was conscious. And I said to the guy at 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: worked at the pub, who did an amazing job, like 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: the staff at the hotel were fantastic. And he was 32 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: sitting there and I said, what's happened? He said, oh, 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: she's fall and her hips given away. And I've just 34 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: rung triple O and I was like, okay, and remember 35 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: it late, you staff to know it like about five o'clock. 36 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: So it's getting cold really fast. Yeah, and thank god 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: I had all these jumpers, the kids jumpers and jackets 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: and bloody, all their skills will give a still in 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: the boots. I've run over to the car to grab 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: all the jackets and we've put them over her to 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: try and warm her up. He said, I said, you know, 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: should we get her off the bitchmen? He said, well, 43 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: Triple O said, they're going to get us an ambulance 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: when they can, but we shouldn't move her. 45 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, I know it's such a tricky one, 46 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: but you've just got to do what they say, because 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: your instinct is to get her somewhere warm and into safety. 48 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: There she's crying in pain, and you're saying when they 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: can wait for this? I said, when did you call 50 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: the ambulance and he said, I've actually been here with 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: her for twenty minutes already. So I called Triple O 52 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: straight away because I could, like, in the two minutes 53 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: that I was there, I could see her breathing starting 54 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: to deteriorate, and you could, you know, you could see 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: the pain really setting in. And I've rung and I said, 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm checking on an ambulance. They've said, yep, they looked 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: up the job and they said, yep, we're trying to 58 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: get you one when one becomes available. And I'm like, 59 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: do you have any idea how long? And they're like, 60 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: we just don't know. And I'm like, well, she's been 61 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: laying here for twenty minutes, the pain's increasing. Okay, call 62 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: us back if anything changes. We hit the forty five 63 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: minute mark. It's getting bloody cold. Now I ring back again, 64 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: Triple O. We're still trying to get your an ambulance. 65 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: We'll let you know when one becomes available. Just under 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: an hour. And the third time I called Triple O 67 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: and this is not the Triple O operator's fault or 68 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: anything like that. And it's not the ambo's fault because 69 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: they're going from job to job again. The third call, 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: they were like, you're next on the list unless something 71 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: else is a priority. We'll try and get you an 72 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: ambulance a couple of minutes later, so we've hit an 73 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: hour pretty much. A couple of minutes later, an ambulance 74 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: pulls into the car park. The AMBO gets out and says, 75 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: what's the situation. By the way, I'm alone. I don't 76 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: have a partner, so now it's his one. The guy 77 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: driving the ambulance was the one and only person in 78 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: the van, so thank god there was other people around 79 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: and stuff. So we helped get her onto you know, 80 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: one of those hard boards, and then we had to 81 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: lift her onto the stretcher and the ambel was doing 82 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: a great job. He gave her the old green whistle. 83 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: We see him on her rescue, and he was like, 84 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: let's just get her into the ambulance. You know that way, 85 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, she's off the bitchman. And we got her 86 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: into the ambulance and and I left there and he said, look, 87 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna not drive with her. I'm just going to 88 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: give a pain relation. We wait for another ambulance to come, 89 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: which God only knows how long that would be. I 90 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: left there so angry and so frustrated, and thought, if 91 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: that was my mum on the ground, I would be 92 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: mortified to know that she just sat there. In part, she. 93 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,119 Speaker 2: Should be mortified, shocking regardless. 94 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: Mate, and she's like she was in a seventies. She 95 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: was deteriorating, pretty bloody bad. Something has got to be 96 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: fixed in this story. Real problem was like, that's crazy. 97 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: The health system is under immense strain right now, and 98 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: questions obviously need to be asked. 99 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, like and you know we're paying out taxes. 100 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: Say why he was on his own Jase though, because 101 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: that because the resources weren't there for you. 102 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he just mentioned we're so thin today, because my 103 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: paramedic mate has told me before. When it's so dire, 104 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: sometimes they get people from the military to go with 105 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: them as like the second person in the ambulance Lisa. 106 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: Maybe that's what we need to do though, because you 107 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: can't be sending one person out and waiting an hour. 108 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: It was discussed. It broke my heart for this poor 109 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: lady and she just kept looking at me, going, but 110 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: when's it coming? Like it's almost been an hour. 111 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 3: Oh, you must have felt so helpless. 112 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: Man Thomas guys with the Victorian Health Minister. 113 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: Well, Marianne has bloody questions to answer. Let me tell you, 114 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: I'd love to get her on the show. We'll reach 115 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: out to her office and I'll see if she'll come on. 116 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: But if anybody need an ambulance yesterday, good luck getting one. 117 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 3: It's an actually, And you know, we see these ambulances 118 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: all over Victoria and they've got writing all over them 119 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: saying you know, I'm from Bendigo, where are you finding me? 120 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: And they're being found in Frankston and all over the 121 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 3: place because our ambos are working so hard. But yeah, 122 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 3: there's got to be a fix. It's not acceptable, my mate. 123 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes it'll be on like a sixteen hour shift and 124 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: then get dispatched to a car accident. I could see 125 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: you now. Everyone makes mistakes on no sleep. I don't 126 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: want someone working on me if I've been in a 127 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: car accident, if they've been going for sixteen hours, like 128 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: that's what mistakes are going to happen. 129 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: Well, just last week, that same health minister had to 130 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: dip into an emergency fund to help bail out hospitals 131 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: in Victoria Public Hospitals four hundred and twenty two million 132 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: dollars they pumped into hospitals at the last minute because 133 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: they were just so sick. 134 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: They need to fix it. We are, like we always say, 135 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, is Victoria in a good situation at the moment? 136 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: Are we're doing okay? We're bloody not. That was disgusting 137 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: and it's just it's not right. It really isn't. And 138 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: but look, thanks. 139 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: Good on you for helping Jane. 140 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: No, the staff for the staff were on it. The 141 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: staff were awesome. They were there, they were all across it. 142 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: They did a great job. At the east bench, he's okay, yeah, 143 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: Like when I left, he said, look, she she should 144 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: be okayble when they put her into the ambulance, you 145 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: could clearly see the poor things. Hip was just seeing 146 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: the terrible, terrible, terrible. But yeah, and the ambos did 147 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: a great job and everything, but the government who's in 148 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: charge need to pull their head in. Oh, here we go. 149 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: Victoria's called through from Mill Park morning there. How are 150 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: you good things? 151 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: How are you? 152 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: We're good? You work as a nurse, Yeah, I do, so. 153 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine how bad is for you guys 154 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: inside the hospitals. 155 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's no one to say, Like, it's awful for 156 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 4: the ambos and everything, but it's also really awful for 157 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: the nurses and doctors and people working in these crazy 158 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: emergency departments and you know, people waiting hours and hours 159 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: and hours. 160 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. 161 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: So are you seeing this firsthand with the ambulance ramping 162 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: as well? 163 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. 164 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: Okay, how about no more wanky politician dinners and every 165 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: cent actually goes into the people and healthcare in this 166 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: country because I'm pulling Yeah, I'm really annoyed about it. 167 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: Anytime you want to join the show, thirteen twenty four 168 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: ten is our number. It's just gone to six past date. 169 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: Gonna be good. 170 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: Jason Lauren, Jason Lauren wake up feeling good on over 171 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: one hundred Jason Lauren bollygood. 172 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm on Socials