WEBVTT - Cortisol diet; healthiest pub meals; toe shoe trend

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hey there, thanks for joining us today. Pressing play.

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<v Speaker 1>Listening in to Healthy is your podcast from Body and Soul.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, Felicity Haley, and yes, joining us

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<v Speaker 1>today is our fantastic digit editor Holly Bergleman. And we

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<v Speaker 1>are chatting through the three stories that made us spit

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<v Speaker 1>out our wine this week. Do you like that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going for wine, not the green juice or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the latte. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the chat. Holly,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome you to healthy Ish.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm good. I'm feeling healthy ish this week. Well

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<v Speaker 1>into February. I feel like feb is almost the new Jen.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, because jan is just like a wasteland. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually it's a soft launch into the year. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>also just like people are still on holiday. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>the proper start the year soft launch. It's the soft

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<v Speaker 2>launch into the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we have to, you know, for those in the

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<v Speaker 1>health and space obsessed with health. Well, I was like

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<v Speaker 1>you and I we have to kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>move our mindset to feed being the start of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. Intentions start first of fair exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, suit of grace. How are your intentions going mid feb.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, they're okay, you're going a well, I am living

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<v Speaker 2>the issue, but I am, you know, with a healthy mindset,

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<v Speaker 2>I think is what I'm going for.

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<v Speaker 1>So on Body and Soul this week, what was the

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<v Speaker 1>most well intriguing story to you and also the readers?

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<v Speaker 2>Intriguing is the word for it this week. So I

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<v Speaker 2>am very excited. We've recently launched a new column called

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<v Speaker 2>Ask a Sports Stylist? What's it about? So Jana Bartolo.

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<v Speaker 2>She's an amazing stylist and she styles most of our

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<v Speaker 2>big cover shoots for Body and Soul. She's fantastic. She

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<v Speaker 2>does a lot of work with Nike and things as well.

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<v Speaker 2>She's fab So she is writing a monthly column for

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<v Speaker 2>US now on Body and Soul, about styling for kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sportswear active weear, the blend of fashion and sportswear,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is great. I'm really excited. And her

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<v Speaker 2>first piece is about why the sneaker world has all

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<v Speaker 2>eyes on toe shoes, which is a pretty divisive one.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>These have been there, I say, kicking around for a while. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I in and out, don't they They haven't really taken

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<v Speaker 1>hold ever.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and I say thank God, because I do think

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<v Speaker 2>they're hideous.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not wearing them, No, I be wearing them like

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't like like mullet. I mean I was

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<v Speaker 1>always actually having said that. I was always like, no mullets.

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<v Speaker 1>Now my sons have mullets.

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<v Speaker 2>A mullet feels like no Burkie's Now I want to stocks.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, suits so toe shoes. When I think about them,

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<v Speaker 2>I think of those like rubber monstrosities that people sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>wear when they go for like trail runs and things

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But there are a lot of new styles

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<v Speaker 2>popping up. There are some from Added Ass which honestly

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<v Speaker 2>look like duck feet kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>They're quite retro.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like red and white. And then Nike has some

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<v Speaker 2>two which are called the air Rif shoes, which look

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more like a Tabby do you know

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<v Speaker 2>Tabby's by Mason Margella. They're the ones that look like

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<v Speaker 2>ballet flights and they've got the like, yeah, little toss

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<v Speaker 2>slit thing. Anyway, they look a bit more like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're starting to see them move into the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sneaker world and people are starting to wear them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're popping up you know at fashion week they're popping

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<v Speaker 2>up in active wear catalogs and things like that. They

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<v Speaker 2>are very divisive, but I quite like them. I quite

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<v Speaker 2>like them. I don't. I absolutely don't flips please you

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<v Speaker 2>know me, But I think you know the Tabby's, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>they were initially inspired by Japanese split toe socks, which

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<v Speaker 2>was thought to promote balance through the separation of the

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<v Speaker 2>big toe, a holistic reflexology strategy promoting a clear mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there we go, there we go.

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<v Speaker 2>So perhaps the toe shoe is actually more wellness alone

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<v Speaker 2>than we thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know that. There's a great book by a

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's from Stanford called Exercised. His name is

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Lieberman, and he's interesting. I heard him on podcast

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<v Speaker 1>recently and he was a big advocate like ten years

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<v Speaker 1>ago about the toe shoes because he thought, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he studies evolutionary biology, and he thought that actually, as humans,

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<v Speaker 1>we only have worn shoes in the last couple of

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years, and our feet are actually designed till we

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<v Speaker 1>stand walking anywhere, but in our modern world we can't

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<v Speaker 1>wear their feet everywhere. So he was a big advocate

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<v Speaker 1>that actually that's how our body is designed, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to stave off injury and you know, promote

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<v Speaker 1>better health, you should actually wear toe shoes. That's very

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<v Speaker 1>because they stimulate the actual notion of walking and propelling

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<v Speaker 1>your foot for it. I am on a podcast recently

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<v Speaker 1>and he now doesn't wear them as much, okay, yeah, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Was because they're impractical.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's finding that it just for his foot. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit later in life, is better in a cushion shoe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, So anyway, that's just a bit of random

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<v Speaker 1>fact for you that perhaps potentially they can be better

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<v Speaker 1>for your health to wear them, and for fashion sense.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that health is driving a lot of trends

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<v Speaker 1>these days, and so I wouldn't be surprised if the

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<v Speaker 1>rise of toe shoes in wardrobes, even if it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the everyday person's wardrobe. But maybe that's why there's been

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<v Speaker 1>more of a move towards them. To me, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>really toe shoes it's more just along that dopamine dressing

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<v Speaker 1>type of thing where they're whimsical, they're a little silly,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of ways for people to have fun

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<v Speaker 1>with their wardrobes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm just going to stick to my nice

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<v Speaker 1>cushion sneakers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I will too. I am a sneaker girl.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do like that people are trying something new

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<v Speaker 2>and that maybe they want to get the dogs out

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<v Speaker 2>during the day exactly. Anyway, Yanna's column is fantastic. Take

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<v Speaker 2>a read of it if you want to know more

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<v Speaker 2>about the front of fashion history behind that. And I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait to read her next one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, I came across Well, dare I say another diet?

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<v Speaker 1>But this one's a little bit different, and I probably

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<v Speaker 1>prefer to call it eating habits, but it's the cortisol diet. Interesting, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me tell you a bit more. So much

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<v Speaker 1>focus last year was on quartersol, we low corter sool

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<v Speaker 1>workouts and cortasol face that this term kind of peaked

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<v Speaker 1>my attention. But I quite like it. And now we're

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<v Speaker 1>well into the twenty twenty five, I can sense that

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<v Speaker 1>stress levels are rising.

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<v Speaker 2>They're on the way up.

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<v Speaker 1>They're on the way up, so perhaps this one is

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<v Speaker 1>there's some merit to it. So I'm going to call

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<v Speaker 1>it cortsol eating habits, right, Okay, die diet.

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<v Speaker 2>But I like what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean the question is, can you lower your

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<v Speaker 1>cortisol levels with food, and the answer is yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>can and there at three. The main way is a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy diet and lower cortisol levels. This is by reducing information.

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<v Speaker 1>So we know an anti inflammatory diet rich in Omega three,

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<v Speaker 1>fatty acids, fatty fish, and walnuts. Foods like that, fruits, vegetables,

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<v Speaker 1>and whole grains can help reduce inflammation. Also, if you

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<v Speaker 1>take this eating approach, it can stabilize blood sugar levels.

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<v Speaker 1>So consuming a balanced diet with complex carbohydrates, lean protein,

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<v Speaker 1>and healthy fats can help stabilize blood sugar. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that when we're stressed, we more.

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<v Speaker 2>Likely reach for those you know, lollies or junk food exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever is your go to. We all have one and

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<v Speaker 1>we all.

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<v Speaker 2>Know it is cheese and chips.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheese, chips.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a savory girl. I love cheese, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>is a good food, but chips are my kryptonite.

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<v Speaker 1>Lollies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Y.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm stressed and I pull into the petrol station

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<v Speaker 1>and it's three o'clock and I'm hungry, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>just take a bag of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, shapes is my petrol shases and snack.

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<v Speaker 1>And also skipping meals. I think a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>time when we're stress skipping meals can wreak havoc. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're stressed, you skip meals, which in turn correct

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<v Speaker 1>havoc on your stress levels and cortersole levels. Anyway, and

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing which I thought was interesting to keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind if you are feeling like cortersols up at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment if you're feeling stress is dehydration. Now, dehydration

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<v Speaker 1>is a physical stress and has been linked to increased

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<v Speaker 1>cortisol levels. So make sure you have that water handy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're feeling stressed.

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<v Speaker 2>God, suddenly I feel really unhealthy. I need to drink

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<v Speaker 2>so much from water, not skip.

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<v Speaker 1>Meals and step away from the shape. It's just these

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<v Speaker 1>things to keep in mind. Yes, yeah, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>hitting that mid February stress out, which I know is

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<v Speaker 1>very common, dark chocolate, bananas, avo and fermento foods are

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<v Speaker 1>also really good. Go tos if you're feeling stressed.

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<v Speaker 2>I love those foods too.

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<v Speaker 1>Great channel cortssolt eating habits. Love it. Thank you now,

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<v Speaker 1>just quickly before we go, give us a quick rundown

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<v Speaker 1>of the most clicked story of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>So most clicked this week was These are the healthiest

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<v Speaker 2>pub meals, according to a diet tissue.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you ask stress, go to the heub, go

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<v Speaker 1>for these wine and choose this.

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<v Speaker 2>This was written by regular contributor Susie Burrow, who's a

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<v Speaker 2>dietitian and we love her. Friend of the pod, friend

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<v Speaker 2>of the post, Susie Burrow, what do you think that

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<v Speaker 2>are the healthiest meals? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Now I have worked in this space very long.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what you're talking about? So I do

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<v Speaker 2>know that fish okay, fish, yes, fish, grilled fish, but

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<v Speaker 2>in particular is the top one. It's high in protein

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<v Speaker 2>and good fats. It also is often served with salad

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<v Speaker 2>or vegetables. It will also cost you more, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is healthier. Four you so really annoying because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that fish like a basophilate, for example, is

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<v Speaker 2>not expensive, but I guess usually at the pub you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting salmon or something which is.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, then if you want it grilled

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<v Speaker 1>not fried, I pay another two dollars and stuff for grilled.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, God forbid you just pop it on the

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<v Speaker 2>stove or in the oven. Yeah. Yeah, Anyway, The next one,

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<v Speaker 2>which did surprise me is chicken schnitzel. Yes, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>a huge win for the people here. I didn't expect

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<v Speaker 2>this because it is deep fried, but because it has

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<v Speaker 2>a decent amount of protein and can it be ordered

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<v Speaker 2>with a side of vegetables or salad rather than fries.

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<v Speaker 2>Compared to other options like deep fried calamari or fish

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<v Speaker 2>and chips or burger plain schnitzel with a salad is

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<v Speaker 2>actually a pretty good option.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not the coal slaw, you know, it always comes

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<v Speaker 1>with the apple slow. It does make fans.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a huge slaw fan, so fine for me,

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<v Speaker 2>but for you guys, maybe no. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>the pub. Yeah, Coda sell diet wearing ashes this week exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the last one is steak because you can

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<v Speaker 2>get certain leaner cuts of steak. And then again you

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<v Speaker 2>can get that with salad and just nip a nab

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<v Speaker 2>a few of your friend's chips instead. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, Holly, I'll see you down the pub.

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<v Speaker 2>See you then bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you go for the schnitzel, the fish or the steak? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it all depends on how you have your snitzel, right,

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<v Speaker 1>If you layer it with cheese, we eat plants pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have chips and I don't know. I tend

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<v Speaker 1>to stick with the fish or a good old steak. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>If you do want to read any of those stories,

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<v Speaker 1>I will lead links in the show notes. Thanks again

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<v Speaker 1>for listening. You can share the healthy ish love. Send

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