Speaker 1: Oh hey there, thanks for joining us today. Pressing play.
Speaker 1: Listening in to Healthy is your podcast from Body and Soul.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Felicity Haley, and yes, joining us
Speaker 1: today is our fantastic digit editor Holly Bergleman. And we
Speaker 1: are chatting through the three stories that made us spit
Speaker 1: out our wine this week. Do you like that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going for wine, not the green juice or maybe
Speaker 1: the latte. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the chat. Holly,
Speaker 1: welcome you to healthy Ish.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. How are you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good. I'm feeling healthy ish this week. Well
Speaker 1: into February. I feel like feb is almost the new Jen.
Speaker 2: I agree, because jan is just like a wasteland. I
Speaker 2: actually it's a soft launch into the year. But it's
Speaker 2: also just like people are still on holiday. It's not
Speaker 2: the proper start the year soft launch. It's the soft
Speaker 2: launch into the year.
Speaker 1: Maybe we have to, you know, for those in the
Speaker 1: health and space obsessed with health. Well, I was like
Speaker 1: you and I we have to kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: move our mindset to feed being the start of the year.
Speaker 2: I agree. Intentions start first of fair exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, suit of grace. How are your intentions going mid feb.
Speaker 2: Look, they're okay, you're going a well, I am living
Speaker 2: the issue, but I am, you know, with a healthy mindset,
Speaker 2: I think is what I'm going for.
Speaker 1: So on Body and Soul this week, what was the
Speaker 1: most well intriguing story to you and also the readers?
Speaker 2: Intriguing is the word for it this week. So I
Speaker 2: am very excited. We've recently launched a new column called
Speaker 2: Ask a Sports Stylist? What's it about? So Jana Bartolo.
Speaker 2: She's an amazing stylist and she styles most of our
Speaker 2: big cover shoots for Body and Soul. She's fantastic. She
Speaker 2: does a lot of work with Nike and things as well.
Speaker 2: She's fab So she is writing a monthly column for
Speaker 2: US now on Body and Soul, about styling for kind
Speaker 2: of sportswear active weear, the blend of fashion and sportswear,
Speaker 2: which I think is great. I'm really excited. And her
Speaker 2: first piece is about why the sneaker world has all
Speaker 2: eyes on toe shoes, which is a pretty divisive one.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 1: These have been there, I say, kicking around for a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I in and out, don't they They haven't really taken
Speaker 1: hold ever.
Speaker 2: No, and I say thank God, because I do think
Speaker 2: they're hideous.
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing them, No, I be wearing them like
Speaker 1: I just can't like like mullet. I mean I was
Speaker 1: always actually having said that. I was always like, no mullets.
Speaker 1: Now my sons have mullets.
Speaker 2: A mullet feels like no Burkie's Now I want to stocks.
Speaker 2: So anyway, suits so toe shoes. When I think about them,
Speaker 2: I think of those like rubber monstrosities that people sometimes
Speaker 2: wear when they go for like trail runs and things
Speaker 2: like that. But there are a lot of new styles
Speaker 2: popping up. There are some from Added Ass which honestly
Speaker 2: look like duck feet kind of.
Speaker 1: They're quite retro.
Speaker 2: They're like red and white. And then Nike has some
Speaker 2: two which are called the air Rif shoes, which look
Speaker 2: a little bit more like a Tabby do you know
Speaker 2: Tabby's by Mason Margella. They're the ones that look like
Speaker 2: ballet flights and they've got the like, yeah, little toss
Speaker 2: slit thing. Anyway, they look a bit more like that.
Speaker 2: But we're starting to see them move into the kind
Speaker 2: of sneaker world and people are starting to wear them.
Speaker 2: They're popping up you know at fashion week they're popping
Speaker 2: up in active wear catalogs and things like that. They
Speaker 2: are very divisive, but I quite like them. I quite
Speaker 2: like them. I don't. I absolutely don't flips please you
Speaker 2: know me, But I think you know the Tabby's, for instance,
Speaker 2: they were initially inspired by Japanese split toe socks, which
Speaker 2: was thought to promote balance through the separation of the
Speaker 2: big toe, a holistic reflexology strategy promoting a clear mind.
Speaker 1: Oh there we go, there we go.
Speaker 2: So perhaps the toe shoe is actually more wellness alone
Speaker 2: than we thought.
Speaker 1: Well, I know that. There's a great book by a
Speaker 1: I think he's from Stanford called Exercised. His name is
Speaker 1: Daniel Lieberman, and he's interesting. I heard him on podcast
Speaker 1: recently and he was a big advocate like ten years
Speaker 1: ago about the toe shoes because he thought, I mean,
Speaker 1: he studies evolutionary biology, and he thought that actually, as humans,
Speaker 1: we only have worn shoes in the last couple of
Speaker 1: hundred years, and our feet are actually designed till we
Speaker 1: stand walking anywhere, but in our modern world we can't
Speaker 1: wear their feet everywhere. So he was a big advocate
Speaker 1: that actually that's how our body is designed, and if
Speaker 1: you want to stave off injury and you know, promote
Speaker 1: better health, you should actually wear toe shoes. That's very
Speaker 1: because they stimulate the actual notion of walking and propelling
Speaker 1: your foot for it. I am on a podcast recently
Speaker 1: and he now doesn't wear them as much, okay, yeah, which.
Speaker 2: Was because they're impractical.
Speaker 1: And he's finding that it just for his foot. He's
Speaker 1: a bit later in life, is better in a cushion shoe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, So anyway, that's just a bit of random
Speaker 1: fact for you that perhaps potentially they can be better
Speaker 1: for your health to wear them, and for fashion sense.
Speaker 1: We know that health is driving a lot of trends
Speaker 1: these days, and so I wouldn't be surprised if the
Speaker 1: rise of toe shoes in wardrobes, even if it's not
Speaker 1: the everyday person's wardrobe. But maybe that's why there's been
Speaker 1: more of a move towards them. To me, I think,
Speaker 1: really toe shoes it's more just along that dopamine dressing
Speaker 1: type of thing where they're whimsical, they're a little silly,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of ways for people to have fun
Speaker 1: with their wardrobes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I'm just going to stick to my nice
Speaker 1: cushion sneakers.
Speaker 2: I think I will too. I am a sneaker girl.
Speaker 2: But I do like that people are trying something new
Speaker 2: and that maybe they want to get the dogs out
Speaker 2: during the day exactly. Anyway, Yanna's column is fantastic. Take
Speaker 2: a read of it if you want to know more
Speaker 2: about the front of fashion history behind that. And I
Speaker 2: can't wait to read her next one.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I came across Well, dare I say another diet?
Speaker 1: But this one's a little bit different, and I probably
Speaker 1: prefer to call it eating habits, but it's the cortisol diet. Interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let me tell you a bit more. So much
Speaker 1: focus last year was on quartersol, we low corter sool
Speaker 1: workouts and cortasol face that this term kind of peaked
Speaker 1: my attention. But I quite like it. And now we're
Speaker 1: well into the twenty twenty five, I can sense that
Speaker 1: stress levels are rising.
Speaker 2: They're on the way up.
Speaker 1: They're on the way up, so perhaps this one is
Speaker 1: there's some merit to it. So I'm going to call
Speaker 1: it cortsol eating habits, right, Okay, die diet.
Speaker 2: But I like what you're doing.
Speaker 1: But I mean the question is, can you lower your
Speaker 1: cortisol levels with food, and the answer is yes, you
Speaker 1: can and there at three. The main way is a
Speaker 1: healthy diet and lower cortisol levels. This is by reducing information.
Speaker 1: So we know an anti inflammatory diet rich in Omega three,
Speaker 1: fatty acids, fatty fish, and walnuts. Foods like that, fruits, vegetables,
Speaker 1: and whole grains can help reduce inflammation. Also, if you
Speaker 1: take this eating approach, it can stabilize blood sugar levels.
Speaker 1: So consuming a balanced diet with complex carbohydrates, lean protein,
Speaker 1: and healthy fats can help stabilize blood sugar. We know
Speaker 1: that when we're stressed, we more.
Speaker 2: Likely reach for those you know, lollies or junk food exactly.
Speaker 1: Whatever is your go to. We all have one and
Speaker 1: we all.
Speaker 2: Know it is cheese and chips.
Speaker 1: Cheese, chips.
Speaker 2: I'm a savory girl. I love cheese, which I think
Speaker 2: is a good food, but chips are my kryptonite.
Speaker 1: Lollies.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Y.
Speaker 1: If I'm stressed and I pull into the petrol station
Speaker 1: and it's three o'clock and I'm hungry, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: just take a bag of that.
Speaker 2: Yes, shapes is my petrol shases and snack.
Speaker 1: And also skipping meals. I think a lot of the
Speaker 1: time when we're stress skipping meals can wreak havoc. Well,
Speaker 1: if you're stressed, you skip meals, which in turn correct
Speaker 1: havoc on your stress levels and cortersole levels. Anyway, and
Speaker 1: the other thing which I thought was interesting to keep
Speaker 1: in mind if you are feeling like cortersols up at
Speaker 1: the moment if you're feeling stress is dehydration. Now, dehydration
Speaker 1: is a physical stress and has been linked to increased
Speaker 1: cortisol levels. So make sure you have that water handy.
Speaker 1: If you're feeling stressed.
Speaker 2: God, suddenly I feel really unhealthy. I need to drink
Speaker 2: so much from water, not skip.
Speaker 1: Meals and step away from the shape. It's just these
Speaker 1: things to keep in mind. Yes, yeah, if you are
Speaker 1: hitting that mid February stress out, which I know is
Speaker 1: very common, dark chocolate, bananas, avo and fermento foods are
Speaker 1: also really good. Go tos if you're feeling stressed.
Speaker 2: I love those foods too.
Speaker 1: Great channel cortssolt eating habits. Love it. Thank you now,
Speaker 1: just quickly before we go, give us a quick rundown
Speaker 1: of the most clicked story of the week.
Speaker 2: So most clicked this week was These are the healthiest
Speaker 2: pub meals, according to a diet tissue.
Speaker 1: So if you ask stress, go to the heub, go
Speaker 1: for these wine and choose this.
Speaker 2: This was written by regular contributor Susie Burrow, who's a
Speaker 2: dietitian and we love her. Friend of the pod, friend
Speaker 2: of the post, Susie Burrow, what do you think that
Speaker 2: are the healthiest meals? Well?
Speaker 1: Now I have worked in this space very long.
Speaker 2: Do you know what you're talking about? So I do
Speaker 2: know that fish okay, fish, yes, fish, grilled fish, but
Speaker 2: in particular is the top one. It's high in protein
Speaker 2: and good fats. It also is often served with salad
Speaker 2: or vegetables. It will also cost you more, but it
Speaker 2: is healthier. Four you so really annoying because I'm like,
Speaker 2: I know that fish like a basophilate, for example, is
Speaker 2: not expensive, but I guess usually at the pub you're
Speaker 2: getting salmon or something which is.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, then if you want it grilled
Speaker 1: not fried, I pay another two dollars and stuff for grilled.
Speaker 2: I know, God forbid you just pop it on the
Speaker 2: stove or in the oven. Yeah. Yeah, Anyway, The next one,
Speaker 2: which did surprise me is chicken schnitzel. Yes, I know,
Speaker 2: a huge win for the people here. I didn't expect
Speaker 2: this because it is deep fried, but because it has
Speaker 2: a decent amount of protein and can it be ordered
Speaker 2: with a side of vegetables or salad rather than fries.
Speaker 2: Compared to other options like deep fried calamari or fish
Speaker 2: and chips or burger plain schnitzel with a salad is
Speaker 2: actually a pretty good option.
Speaker 1: Maybe not the coal slaw, you know, it always comes
Speaker 1: with the apple slow. It does make fans.
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge slaw fan, so fine for me,
Speaker 2: but for you guys, maybe no. So we're going to
Speaker 2: the pub. Yeah, Coda sell diet wearing ashes this week exactly.
Speaker 2: And then the last one is steak because you can
Speaker 2: get certain leaner cuts of steak. And then again you
Speaker 2: can get that with salad and just nip a nab
Speaker 2: a few of your friend's chips instead. I like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Holly, I'll see you down the pub.
Speaker 2: See you then bye.
Speaker 1: Do you go for the schnitzel, the fish or the steak? Now,
Speaker 1: it all depends on how you have your snitzel, right,
Speaker 1: If you layer it with cheese, we eat plants pretty good,
Speaker 1: and you have chips and I don't know. I tend
Speaker 1: to stick with the fish or a good old steak. Anyway,
Speaker 1: If you do want to read any of those stories,
Speaker 1: I will lead links in the show notes. Thanks again
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