1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Oh hey there, thanks for joining us today. Pressing play. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Listening in to Healthy is your podcast from Body and Soul. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: I am your host, Felicity Haley, and yes, joining us 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: today is our fantastic digit editor Holly Bergleman. And we 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: are chatting through the three stories that made us spit 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: out our wine this week. Do you like that? Yeah, 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm going for wine, not the green juice or maybe 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: the latte. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the chat. Holly, 9 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: welcome you to healthy Ish. 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. How are you? 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good. I'm feeling healthy ish this week. Well 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: into February. I feel like feb is almost the new Jen. 13 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: I agree, because jan is just like a wasteland. I 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 2: actually it's a soft launch into the year. But it's 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: also just like people are still on holiday. It's not 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: the proper start the year soft launch. It's the soft 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: launch into the year. 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Maybe we have to, you know, for those in the 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: health and space obsessed with health. Well, I was like 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: you and I we have to kind of, you know, 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: move our mindset to feed being the start of the year. 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: I agree. Intentions start first of fair exactly. 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, suit of grace. How are your intentions going mid feb. 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: Look, they're okay, you're going a well, I am living 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: the issue, but I am, you know, with a healthy mindset, 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: I think is what I'm going for. 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: So on Body and Soul this week, what was the 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: most well intriguing story to you and also the readers? 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: Intriguing is the word for it this week. So I 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: am very excited. We've recently launched a new column called 31 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: Ask a Sports Stylist? What's it about? So Jana Bartolo. 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: She's an amazing stylist and she styles most of our 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: big cover shoots for Body and Soul. She's fantastic. She 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: does a lot of work with Nike and things as well. 35 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: She's fab So she is writing a monthly column for 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: US now on Body and Soul, about styling for kind 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: of sportswear active weear, the blend of fashion and sportswear, 38 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: which I think is great. I'm really excited. And her 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: first piece is about why the sneaker world has all 40 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: eyes on toe shoes, which is a pretty divisive one. 41 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: I feel like. 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: These have been there, I say, kicking around for a while. Yeah, 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: I in and out, don't they They haven't really taken 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: hold ever. 45 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: No, and I say thank God, because I do think 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: they're hideous. 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm not wearing them, No, I be wearing them like 48 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: I just can't like like mullet. I mean I was 49 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: always actually having said that. I was always like, no mullets. 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Now my sons have mullets. 51 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: A mullet feels like no Burkie's Now I want to stocks. 52 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: So anyway, suits so toe shoes. When I think about them, 53 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: I think of those like rubber monstrosities that people sometimes 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: wear when they go for like trail runs and things 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: like that. But there are a lot of new styles 56 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: popping up. There are some from Added Ass which honestly 57 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: look like duck feet kind of. 58 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: They're quite retro. 59 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: They're like red and white. And then Nike has some 60 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: two which are called the air Rif shoes, which look 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: a little bit more like a Tabby do you know 62 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: Tabby's by Mason Margella. They're the ones that look like 63 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: ballet flights and they've got the like, yeah, little toss 64 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: slit thing. Anyway, they look a bit more like that. 65 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: But we're starting to see them move into the kind 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: of sneaker world and people are starting to wear them. 67 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: They're popping up you know at fashion week they're popping 68 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 2: up in active wear catalogs and things like that. They 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: are very divisive, but I quite like them. I quite 70 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: like them. I don't. I absolutely don't flips please you 71 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: know me, But I think you know the Tabby's, for instance, 72 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: they were initially inspired by Japanese split toe socks, which 73 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: was thought to promote balance through the separation of the 74 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: big toe, a holistic reflexology strategy promoting a clear mind. 75 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: Oh there we go, there we go. 76 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: So perhaps the toe shoe is actually more wellness alone 77 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: than we thought. 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: Well, I know that. There's a great book by a 79 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: I think he's from Stanford called Exercised. His name is 80 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: Daniel Lieberman, and he's interesting. I heard him on podcast 81 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: recently and he was a big advocate like ten years 82 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: ago about the toe shoes because he thought, I mean, 83 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: he studies evolutionary biology, and he thought that actually, as humans, 84 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: we only have worn shoes in the last couple of 85 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: hundred years, and our feet are actually designed till we 86 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: stand walking anywhere, but in our modern world we can't 87 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: wear their feet everywhere. So he was a big advocate 88 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: that actually that's how our body is designed, and if 89 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: you want to stave off injury and you know, promote 90 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: better health, you should actually wear toe shoes. That's very 91 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: because they stimulate the actual notion of walking and propelling 92 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: your foot for it. I am on a podcast recently 93 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: and he now doesn't wear them as much, okay, yeah, which. 94 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: Was because they're impractical. 95 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: And he's finding that it just for his foot. He's 96 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: a bit later in life, is better in a cushion shoe. Yeah, 97 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: so yeah, So anyway, that's just a bit of random 98 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: fact for you that perhaps potentially they can be better 99 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: for your health to wear them, and for fashion sense. 100 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: We know that health is driving a lot of trends 101 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: these days, and so I wouldn't be surprised if the 102 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: rise of toe shoes in wardrobes, even if it's not 103 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: the everyday person's wardrobe. But maybe that's why there's been 104 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: more of a move towards them. To me, I think, 105 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: really toe shoes it's more just along that dopamine dressing 106 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: type of thing where they're whimsical, they're a little silly, 107 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: and that's kind of ways for people to have fun 108 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: with their wardrobes. 109 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 110 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: I think I'm just going to stick to my nice 111 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: cushion sneakers. 112 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: I think I will too. I am a sneaker girl. 113 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: But I do like that people are trying something new 114 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: and that maybe they want to get the dogs out 115 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: during the day exactly. Anyway, Yanna's column is fantastic. Take 116 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: a read of it if you want to know more 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: about the front of fashion history behind that. And I 118 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: can't wait to read her next one. 119 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: Okay, well, I came across Well, dare I say another diet? 120 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: But this one's a little bit different, and I probably 121 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: prefer to call it eating habits, but it's the cortisol diet. Interesting, Yeah, 122 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: so let me tell you a bit more. So much 123 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: focus last year was on quartersol, we low corter sool 124 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: workouts and cortasol face that this term kind of peaked 125 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: my attention. But I quite like it. And now we're 126 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: well into the twenty twenty five, I can sense that 127 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: stress levels are rising. 128 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: They're on the way up. 129 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: They're on the way up, so perhaps this one is 130 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: there's some merit to it. So I'm going to call 131 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: it cortsol eating habits, right, Okay, die diet. 132 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: But I like what you're doing. 133 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: But I mean the question is, can you lower your 134 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: cortisol levels with food, and the answer is yes, you 135 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: can and there at three. The main way is a 136 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 1: healthy diet and lower cortisol levels. This is by reducing information. 137 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: So we know an anti inflammatory diet rich in Omega three, 138 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: fatty acids, fatty fish, and walnuts. Foods like that, fruits, vegetables, 139 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: and whole grains can help reduce inflammation. Also, if you 140 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: take this eating approach, it can stabilize blood sugar levels. 141 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: So consuming a balanced diet with complex carbohydrates, lean protein, 142 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: and healthy fats can help stabilize blood sugar. We know 143 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: that when we're stressed, we more. 144 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: Likely reach for those you know, lollies or junk food exactly. 145 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Whatever is your go to. We all have one and 146 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: we all. 147 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: Know it is cheese and chips. 148 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: Cheese, chips. 149 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm a savory girl. I love cheese, which I think 150 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: is a good food, but chips are my kryptonite. 151 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: Lollies. 152 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Y. 153 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: If I'm stressed and I pull into the petrol station 154 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: and it's three o'clock and I'm hungry, I'm like, oh, 155 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: just take a bag of that. 156 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: Yes, shapes is my petrol shases and snack. 157 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: And also skipping meals. I think a lot of the 158 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: time when we're stress skipping meals can wreak havoc. Well, 159 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: if you're stressed, you skip meals, which in turn correct 160 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: havoc on your stress levels and cortersole levels. Anyway, and 161 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: the other thing which I thought was interesting to keep 162 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: in mind if you are feeling like cortersols up at 163 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: the moment if you're feeling stress is dehydration. Now, dehydration 164 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: is a physical stress and has been linked to increased 165 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: cortisol levels. So make sure you have that water handy. 166 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: If you're feeling stressed. 167 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: God, suddenly I feel really unhealthy. I need to drink 168 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: so much from water, not skip. 169 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: Meals and step away from the shape. It's just these 170 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: things to keep in mind. Yes, yeah, if you are 171 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: hitting that mid February stress out, which I know is 172 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: very common, dark chocolate, bananas, avo and fermento foods are 173 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: also really good. Go tos if you're feeling stressed. 174 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: I love those foods too. 175 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: Great channel cortssolt eating habits. Love it. Thank you now, 176 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: just quickly before we go, give us a quick rundown 177 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: of the most clicked story of the week. 178 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: So most clicked this week was These are the healthiest 179 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: pub meals, according to a diet tissue. 180 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: So if you ask stress, go to the heub, go 181 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: for these wine and choose this. 182 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: This was written by regular contributor Susie Burrow, who's a 183 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: dietitian and we love her. Friend of the pod, friend 184 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: of the post, Susie Burrow, what do you think that 185 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: are the healthiest meals? Well? 186 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: Now I have worked in this space very long. 187 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: Do you know what you're talking about? So I do 188 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: know that fish okay, fish, yes, fish, grilled fish, but 189 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: in particular is the top one. It's high in protein 190 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: and good fats. It also is often served with salad 191 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: or vegetables. It will also cost you more, but it 192 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: is healthier. Four you so really annoying because I'm like, 193 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: I know that fish like a basophilate, for example, is 194 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: not expensive, but I guess usually at the pub you're 195 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 2: getting salmon or something which is. 196 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: But the thing is, then if you want it grilled 197 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: not fried, I pay another two dollars and stuff for grilled. 198 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: I know, God forbid you just pop it on the 199 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: stove or in the oven. Yeah. Yeah, Anyway, The next one, 200 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: which did surprise me is chicken schnitzel. Yes, I know, 201 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: a huge win for the people here. I didn't expect 202 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: this because it is deep fried, but because it has 203 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 2: a decent amount of protein and can it be ordered 204 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: with a side of vegetables or salad rather than fries. 205 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: Compared to other options like deep fried calamari or fish 206 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: and chips or burger plain schnitzel with a salad is 207 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: actually a pretty good option. 208 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: Maybe not the coal slaw, you know, it always comes 209 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: with the apple slow. It does make fans. 210 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: I'm not a huge slaw fan, so fine for me, 211 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: but for you guys, maybe no. So we're going to 212 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: the pub. Yeah, Coda sell diet wearing ashes this week exactly. 213 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: And then the last one is steak because you can 214 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: get certain leaner cuts of steak. And then again you 215 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: can get that with salad and just nip a nab 216 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: a few of your friend's chips instead. I like it. 217 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Holly, I'll see you down the pub. 218 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: See you then bye. 219 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: Do you go for the schnitzel, the fish or the steak? Now, 220 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: it all depends on how you have your snitzel, right, 221 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: If you layer it with cheese, we eat plants pretty good, 222 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: and you have chips and I don't know. I tend 223 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: to stick with the fish or a good old steak. Anyway, 224 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: If you do want to read any of those stories, 225 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: I will lead links in the show notes. Thanks again 226 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: for listening. You can share the healthy ish love. Send 227 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: this on to a friend, have a listen. DM me 228 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: at Felicity Harley With any feedback, jump online bodyandsoul dot 229 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: com dot I you don't remember, we are across social 230 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: media at Body and Soul. You can grab our print 231 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: edition which is out in your local Sunday paper. Thanks 232 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: again for listening and stay healthy.