WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 18 November 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:04.439 On scolds Astudio. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.200 This is the Reader Panalty Show. 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.399 Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panalty Show. Coming 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:15.680 up tonight a housing minister who has absolutely no idea 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.760 how much housing costs. I'll speak to Dan Wild about 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:23.840 that shortly. Also tonight your taxes funding junk research, linking 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:27.840 red meat with toxic masculinity. Will have the latest from 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.920 the US with Alex Stein also joining me Tonight the 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.440 Great Professor in Plymer, and later in the hour Kinsis 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:39.440 Schofield with the latest celebrities jumping on the Trump bandwagon, 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.320 and your favorite segment and wine that is losing. 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:49.080 It Our resistance will be talked about regenerations. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.600 But first, New South Wales housing minister Rose Jackson has 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.400 come under fire for claiming in an ABC radio interview 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:02.960 that renting a two bedroom apartment in Sydney costs just 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:04.880 a couple of hundred bucks. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.840 What do you reckon is a reasonable price to pay 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.560 in rent for a two bedroom flat in Sydney? 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.880 H Well, I mean it kind of depends where in Sydney. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.440 I mean Sydney's a big city, you know, I mean 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:20.200 a couple one hundred bucks? 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:20.679 Right? 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.400 Like, where can you get a two bedroom flat for 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.520 a couple of hundred bucks well a week. 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:27.560 I don't know there are places in Sydney you can 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:29.920 I mean you know, is like there's a. 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:31.840 Two bedroom flat and there's a two bedroom flat. Like 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:33.400 not all flats are the same. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.880 According to the Tenancy Union of New South Wales, just 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.400 twenty three of the around twenty five thousand two bedroom 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:44.440 apartments rented out in the Greater Sydney area since July 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.440 were priced at two hundred dollars a week or less, 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.160 and the latest rental data shows that the median rental 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.520 price for a unit in Sydney from June to September 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.920 was seven hundred and twenty dollars a week. The minister 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:03.280 has since taken social media to explain her gaff. BIB 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:04.680 radio is a hard format. 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:06.360 You're on the phone, you can't. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.200 See the other person. Sometimes you get a bit garbled, 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.480 sometimes your words get a bit mangled. Seriously joining me 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.520 now is Deputy Executive Director of the Institute of Public Affairs, 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:22.560 Dan Wild. Dan, how can she be that clueless? I 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.800 don't think there's hardly anyone in the country, regardless of 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:29.600 where they live in Australia, who would be in any 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:33.919 doubt about how expensive property is in Sydney to buy 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:37.360 or to rent, To have a housing minister from New 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.400 South Wales think that you can get a two bedroom 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:44.120 apartment for perhaps a couple of hundred dollars, just completely 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:45.320 divorced from reality. 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:48.480 Well it is. 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.840 It was a shocker, and you know, the cover up 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.120 was actually worse than the crime, as it often is. 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:57.960 I mean, she's a senior politician, a cabinet minister, with 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.079 the housing portfolio, one of the most common sequential portfolios. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.320 It touches the lives of every single person in her 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:08.040 state and then to say I was doing radio interviews 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.120 is hard and you know, so forth, well, that's sort 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.399 of your job is to be able to communicate those 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:13.600 things to the public. 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.720 So I don't understand why she would say that. 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.280 Look, it just gets to this point that whether it's 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.360 in New South Wales, whether it's at the federal level, 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.240 housing ministers just don't have a clue about what is 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.919 happening in the day to day lives of Australians. I mean, 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.919 the housing crisis has continued now for a few years 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.720 because of unplanned mass migration, which is cranking up the 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.200 demand and at the state level, we've got all of 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:39.440 these restrictions on the development of housing, particularly urban growth, 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.520 with the red tape and the cost of doing that. 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.720 Climate policies as well, which add to the cost and 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.520 green tape. So look, I think Australians would expect a 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.360 lot better from their political leaders to have the basic 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:55.320 understanding of what's happening. Well, there's lots of issues there, reader, 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.840 And you know, okay, you might not know the exact 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.720 cost of rentals to the zach dollar, but to say 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.840 it's two hundred bucks a week in Sydney, I mean, 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.800 how far how far detached from reality can you be? 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.600 It's incredible. It's just it was just so far out. 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:18.200 I don't like those gotcha questions necessarily for politicians, like 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.640 how much is a loaf of bread or a liter 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:24.680 of milk? I think for them to know that exactly 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.440 or not is not a huge issue. But to be 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.640 that completely wrong if it would be like a politician 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:35.359 saying a loaf of bread is ten cents, it's like 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:39.839 that divorce from reality. Now let's go to Federal Education 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:44.160 Minister Jason Claire. He's been opining about the war between 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.119 Israel and Hermas and I think it was quite proud 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.880 of this line because he posted it himself to X 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:51.680 formally Twitter. 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.040 You can't bomb your way to peace, you know. 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.000 I think the last twelve months have shown. 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:59.800 Us that He also tweeted that you can't bomb your 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:00.760 way to peace. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:01.840 Dan. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.560 He seems to have a profound ignorance of how World 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:11.159 War two and did, and many other conflicts often that 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:12.839 is what happens in war. 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.279 Well, that's right, I mean he should stick to his knitting. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.479 The fact that you've got an education minister that doesn't 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.920 understand history, I think tells you everything you need to 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.080 know about the problems in our education system. More generally, 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.799 you know, peace through strength is what defeated the Soviet Union. 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.760 That was the Reagan Thatcher doctrine. Trump is going to 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.280 go in that direction as well, in terms of trying to, 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.159 you know, show our adversaries overseas that you know, we've 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.720 got a serious arsenal of military capabilities and if we 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:43.839 need to use it, we will. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.760 That is how you go about these things. 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.520 The reality is that Jason Clair is only saying this, 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.480 as we know, because he's his seat is in Western 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.839 Sydney and he's under pressure because of the large constituency 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.440 of Muslims. They're in his seat and this is something 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.040 that's been dry I think Labor Party policy which has 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.120 been enormously disappointing when it comes to the Middle East. So, 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.599 you know, the Education Minister should really stick to his 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.640 knitting and stick to his patch because he's got this 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.080 one badly wrong and it shows just out of how 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.320 out of touch he is with reality and with history. 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:17.400 As you rightly point. 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:24.000 Out, Victoria University has released the findings of a study 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:28.280 about the psychology behind men's meat consumption. You're going to 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:32.920 love this, Dand apparently the academics thing men eat red 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:38.400 meat for masculinity and sexual prowess a psychologist. This was 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:42.479 led by a psychology lecture. D. It wasn't led by 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:50.320 a scientist, but this lecturer on his team apparently concluded 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.080 that men don't want to give up red meat because 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.279 it would be the equivalent of giving up their masculinity. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.680 Even though they claim here that consuming meat is slowly 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:06.240 killing men, the Victorian Uni researchers here making all sorts 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:10.600 of claims. It seems to be highly ideological. Dan, I'd 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.840 love your considered take on this research. 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.600 Well, I'm happy to undertake a very detailed study tour 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.760 of red meat around Australia and report back. 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:23.720 I'd be happy to do that. 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.520 Look, I eat red meat because it tastes good and 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.840 Australia has got the best meat in the world with 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.160 our farmers. So you know, this is just another example 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.800 of these activists that they just are out of touch 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.720 and they don't get it. The reality is that it's 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.480 not just men that eat red meat as well. By 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.400 the way, I mean women eat red meat. I don't 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.680 understand where this idea came from that it's only it's 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.880 only for men, and it's an expression of masculinity. I mean, 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:53.280 people have been eating red meat since time immemorial, you know, 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.360 only now has apparently become an issue. So you know, 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.800 we know that there's this activist class that seeks to 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:02.280 link anything they don't like, either to climate change or 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:06.480 to toxic masculinity. And this is yet another example. But look, 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.880 I'm going to keep eating red meat. Don't worry about that. 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.760 And I think most Australians have common sense and they'll 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.480 go about their habits as they wish, not paying attention 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.440 to these unelected activists. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.760 And the experts. I listened to just say we should 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.280 all be eating more red meat, we should be eating 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:28.920 more protein, and it keeps us young and healthy. Now, 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:33.600 let's take a look at this picture from yesterday's UFC event. 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.080 It's a President elect Donald Trump. You can see they're 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:42.400 the world's richest man. Elon Mask, Tulsey Gabbard and RFK Junior. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.440 This was at Madison Square Garden for UFC three O nine. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.319 I'll be talking to Alex Stein about this event a 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.800 little bit later, but have a look at that picture, Dad, 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:56.720 and marvel at the fact that every single person there 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.880 was a former Democrat. This political re alignment that we 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:05.079 are seeing in America is extraordinary. We're seeing signs of 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.600 it here, not just signs. I would say the last 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.280 three elections has been clear evidence of it. We've seen 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:15.120 it in the UK and it's stunning to see these 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.160 people who are going to be making up Trump's administration 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.439 were all once part of the Democrats tent. 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.440 Well, that's right, reader, I mean the Republican Party is 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.679 now the National Unity Party. They've got people on all 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.600 sides of politics that are in their administration and it's 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.760 amazing that Trump has been the one that has actually 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.320 brought or is now starting to bring the country together 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.720 with astually say former Democrats having key roles or Democrat 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:45.920 voters and supporters having key roles in his administration. This 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.199 is the realignment, which is those who used to be Democrats. 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.120 And you can probably put Joe Rogan in that camp 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.480 as well, at least someone who was on the left 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.480 and said, well, you know, I was on the left 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:59.200 because yeah, I support free speech and civil liberties and 0:09:59.240 --> 0:09:59.680 so forth. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.440 They lived through COVID, they lived. 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.520 Through the lockdowns, They saw what happened in California, you know, 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.280 a Democrat state, and in New York, a Democrat state 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:11.520 that went the furthest in imposing lockdowns and curfews and 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.920 mandates on their citizens. And so that's driven a lot 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.199 of this, you know, particularly when you talk about RFK 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.640 Junior and his concerns about health and the medical bureaucracy 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:23.640 and so forth. Look, we're living through a fascinating time, 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.840 but through a time of immense opportunity. There's a lot 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.840 of opportunity to make our societies better. You mentioned the 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.160 UK and Australia, so we've got a way to go 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:36.120 in Australia. But I'm very positive about what the future brings. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:43.120 Let's have a look at this ridiculous rant from alleged 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:47.240 comic John Oliver. He thinks that there is no safety 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:52.120 threat in having male students, male bodies compete against females, 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.280 something that is obviously false. There's plenty of examples of it, 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.480 and it was a huge election issue. Dan, This was 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:04.520 a significant election issue in the US presidential election. It 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.880 should be an issue here. But let's have her listen 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:07.960 to John Oliver first. 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.400 And it was frustrating to see the Harris campaign failed 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:15.000 to formulate a response, especially because it's pretty easy to do. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:15.199 Watch. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.720 I'll do it for you right now. As we've discussed before, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.079 there are vanishingly few trans girls competing in high schools anywhere. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.400 Even if there were more trans kids, like all kids, 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.760 very in athletic ability, and there is no evidence they'd 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.760 pose any threat to safety or fairness. It is very 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.160 weird for you to be so focused on this subject. 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.720 And finally, if you genuinely want to address the biggest 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.120 concern for most girls who play high school sports, you've 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.840 been less worried about this and more about the creepy 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.600 assistant volleyball coach who keeps liking their poste. 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:47.240 Oh dear temps at humor, but just basically everything he 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:51.920 said there was a lie. Even JK. Rowling, who likes 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.560 all of those worked with him, went on x and 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.520 posted a lengthy fact check and shit, this is part 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.840 of what she post that she said. According to the UN, 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:06.720 female athletes have lost nearly nine hundred medals to transidentified 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.440 men competing against them in women's sporting categories. Girls have 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.559 been ousted from teams to make way for boys. Women 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:19.120 have suffered serious injury playing against transidentified men. It was 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.600 a lengthy post. I won't read out the whole thing, 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:25.200 but it just proves again Dan, that the likes of 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:29.679 John Oliver are determined to stay ignorant on this issue, 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:33.559 and they just don't understand why it matters to people, 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.640 Why parents care about this, why people who care about 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.600 fairness are invested in this issue. 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:43.880 Well, exactly right. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.800 I mean, you've got to perform all these mental gymnastics 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:52.319 to convince yourself that there's no physical difference between men 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.080 and women. Of course there is. I mean, it's just 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.319 common sense. Its as plain as the nose on your face. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.560 And it was a big election issue in the US. 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.280 I mean Megan Kelly came out and endorsed Trump right 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:04.760 at the ending. 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:05.880 I think it was in Pennsylvania. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.200 She did that, saying that Trump was going to protect 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.080 women because he's going to deal with this issue, to 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.040 deal with men and women's sports. So it was an 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.840 issue there. It is an issue in Australia, all around 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.320 the Western world. Everybody knows it. And of course we 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.959 want to have empathy and have fairness towards those who 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.640 choose to change their identity and so forth. But you've 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.840 got to draw the line somewhere, and this is where 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.760 you draw the line. You draw the line when women 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:32.000 are in physical danger of being harmed or hurt by 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.000 men who are in their spaces. 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.000 That's where the line is. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.120 As a society, it's pretty clear that that's where the 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.680 vast majority of us believe it should be. And I 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.480 don't understand why it's so difficult for the establishment to 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.240 understand that this is an issue that parents are concerned 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.080 about and it must be dealt with. 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:47.680 In Australia. 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.160 We do have some people, you know, Claire Chandler, Alexantik 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.880 and others in the Senate who have been speaking out. 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.559 But I hope this becomes more of a mainstream issue 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.160 in the lead up to our election here early next year. 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.280 Absolutely needs to be talked about here in the US. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.920 It has been debated for some time, and it's not 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.480 just an issue of safety, that's obviously hugely important, but 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.480 it's also an issue of fairness and opportunity. When you're 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.440 taking away a young girl's young athletes opportunity away to 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:20.560 give it to a mediocre, male bodied athlete, that's just 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.040 not okay. And you're right, it was a huge issue. 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.280 In fact, there was some research that has come out 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.840 showing that for swing voters, who really do decide every election, 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.040 it was a number one issue dan ahead of inflation, 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:37.560 ahead of the border crisis. Before you go, let's hear 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:41.520 from Reform UK Party leader Nigel Farage, who says that 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:47.720 the truth behind the Southport murders is even worse than 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:52.800 what is being reported. After we learned that the suspect 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:55.960 has been charged with terror offenses, I know a hell. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.480 Of a lot more for the British public, note, a 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:03.880 hell of a lot more. I've been completely silenced now, 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.720 I'm told with the Speaker of the House of Commons, 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.920 I can't ask questions about it. In the House of Commons. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:12.320 Parliamentary privilege is out of the window. Even rumors today 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.160 that the court case which is due in January, every 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:20.640 effort is being made to defer it. Right, Yeah, this 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:29.120 is what's going on. We are witnessing one of the 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:33.240 biggest cover ups we've ever seen in our lives. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:37.240 Dan Kistarma has some serious questions to answer. 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:41.200 Well, it seems that way. 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.560 Obviously we don't know any details here, but you know, 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.080 I'm in sense chills up my spine to think that 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.560 there'd be a cover up about this. I mean, how 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.840 much worse can it really get? But from what Nigel 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.360 Farage is saying, it sounds like this could be, you know, 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.400 something very serious. So let's keep an eye on the 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:00.480 details that come out. 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.560 Daniel Will thanks for your time joining me now is 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:11.320 leading geologist and author Professor Ian Plymer, Professor COP twenty 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.480 nine is underway, and our favorite minister Chris Bowen is there. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.640 The president of the host country as a Viajean had 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:22.080 some choice words to say about the Renewables hoax that 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.720 shocked a lot of people. We've spoken previously about the 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:30.160 Taliban being at this conference. Tell me what is Australia 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:34.080 hoping to gain from this conference. We've recently had Anthony 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:38.640 Alberezi telling the APEC leaders that Australia was on its 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:43.920 way to being a renewables energy superpower. Is that something 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.120 that is likely or even desirable? 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:52.400 Well, mister Bowen is with his cringeworthy colleagues Azerbayan for 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.680 a conference, and the aim of the conference is for 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:59.400 some countries to screw other countries. Some countries we've got 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:03.400 the energy to Eton's right and who are actually wealthy 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.919 countries are now having enormous pressure put on them to 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:14.200 pay up. Now, Albos in Brazil not because he's wasting 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.520 taxpayers money on a jaunt to go and see something 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.439 that many people want to see, and that's the Amazonian rainforest. 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.639 Albo's gone to Brazil to have a look at the 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.480 balsa wood industry and the bolts of wood comes out 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.359 of the Amazon rainforests and we use balsa wood in 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:31.520 turbine blades. 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:35.080 It's strong and it's light. So he is watching the 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:39.960 Brazilian rainforest being destroyed. Then for China to use that 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.800 bols of wood to build our turbine blades, and we 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.080 have to do it. Our forests to do it. 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.919 It's a fendously cunning program where he is getting ahead 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.240 of the game and he is going to make us 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.920 the renewable energy country. 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:54.240 Of the world. 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.560 And all these oil producing countries like the Middle East, 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.760 like the US, like Aserbayan, they're going to be envious. 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.919 So Chris Boone is, they're making them envious of us, 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:09.160 sending ourselves break and elbows in Brazil, making sure they 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:10.720 destroy their rainforest while. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:14.720 We destroy our rainforests. It's a fiendously cunning election winning plan. 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.280 I tell you, I remember the days when you actually 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.920 were protesting to save the Brazilian rainforest, when you cared 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:27.800 about the environment. You cared about things like preserving the 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.080 Brazilian rainforest and our own. But now they're wanting to 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.560 tear it down. So we're going to have material for 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:40.600 these wind turbines. And interestingly, Anthony Albanese has received praise 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:44.760 from the Chinese Communist Party in the China Daily newspaper, 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:50.199 which said that other nations should follow Anthony Albanese's example 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.679 in cooperating with China. What are your thoughts on that? 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:56.959 Well, I get praised by the devil when I've had 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:58.760 a big night I can hear the devil talk going 0:18:58.800 --> 0:18:59.560 to be saying, you're doing the. 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.919 Great, keep it up, you're helping my cause. 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:06.320 And this is executive situation that Albozi and he's got 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.359 the Gina's dictator putting his arm around and patting him on. 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.520 The head, saying, are you a wonderful little boy? Keep 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.040 it up. We'll keep you under control, and try to 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.440 use that to leave off other countries to keep them 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.280 under control. Now only a mug would fall for that. 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:26.159 Now, Donald Trump has nominated the founder and CEO of 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:31.600 oil company Liberty, Chris Right, to be the US Energy Secretary. 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.919 He is a bold choice professor plymer. Here are some 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:37.840 of his thoughts on climate change. 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.159 There's no climate crisis, and we're not in the midst 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:45.760 of an energy transition either. Humans in all complex life 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:49.399 on Earth is simply impossible without carbon dioxide in the 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:53.800 oxide does indeed absorb infra red radiation, contributing to warming. 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:58.560 But calling carbon dioxide pollution is like calling out water 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:03.800 and oxygen, the other two irreplaceable molecules for life on Earth. 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.600 And and before I get your response to that, let's 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:11.200 listen to him talk about the cost of climate change action. 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.320 Immag change may not be exactly what you think it is. 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.439 It's a real thing, but it's actually sort of a 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:22.359 slow moving in our lifetimes, relatively modest phenomenon that's just 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:27.439 been wildly abused for political reasons. But the cost of 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:31.320 that is enormous in human lives and human opportunity. 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:35.960 I Trump picking Chris Right, a fossil fuel magnate, for 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:39.639 this position, is a sure sign that he's going to 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:43.159 take the US in the direction of energy independence. This 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:47.080 was a election promise. What's that going to mean for 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:50.560 Australia and our bold omission targets. 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:55.560 Well, mister Trump has chosen someone to be Energy Secretary 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.440 who knows something about energy, rather than being a political 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.880 hack or an idea logue. In this country, we've. 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.840 Got someone who is the Minister for Energy and Climate 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:09.080 who knows absolutely nothing about the background of energy, the 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:14.359 background of climate and science, and the actual engineering difficulties 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.120 in having US a renewable country. 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:19.920 It's chalk and cheese. So mister Trump has actually chosen 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:24.120 someone who is really knowledgeable, whereas in this country we're 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.040 in the dark. We have idea logs trying to reinvent 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:30.000 energy processes, trying to tell us how to run grids, 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.840 and it's no wonder our electricity prices have gone up. 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:37.399 It's no wonder we are facing energy doom. So I 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:40.560 think it's an inspired appointment. And unless we have a 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:45.200 change of government, we're heading towards bankruptcy. 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.760 Well, we're already behind the US, aren't we. They've already 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:53.639 embraced nuclear, both the Democrats and the Republicans, and even 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:58.239 under Barack Obama they were fracking, they were trying to 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.879 be in energy independence, so that we were behind the 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.400 eight ball. Now under Trump, who's going to be drill, 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.400 baby drilling, I think we are going to be in 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:11.240 all sorts of trouble. Professor Plymouth, thanks so much for 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:12.000 your time tonight. 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:13.240 Thank you. 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:18.600 Still to come. Lefties Losing Ed plus the extraordinary scenes 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:22.879 from UFC three or nine and Mike Tyson's Fine Alex 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:35.520 Stein has the latest from the USA. Welcome back. Now 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:38.960 it's time for lefties losing it, and let's start lefties 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:42.240