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Speaker 1: What's the matter, daddy. You're not yourself at the moment,

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Speaker 1: you know, like you know, I'm just a little bit

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Speaker 1: I tear.

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Speaker 2: I could really pick my mood up. What did you

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Speaker 2: want to know?

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Speaker 1: I'll do anything.

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Speaker 2: Do you really want to know? Yes, I want people

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Speaker 2: to hit subscribe. Hit that subscribe button. It's going to

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Speaker 2: really elevate my spirit.

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Speaker 1: If the people respect.

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Speaker 3: You as a man and as a as a medium

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Speaker 3: mogul in Australia, I'm sure they.

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Speaker 2: Will do it. Well, I hope so.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: Right, this is a gathering of radio titans. Correct legend,

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Speaker 2: legend and I want to be what was that?

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Speaker 1: Where's Kyle?

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Speaker 4: What you said? Legends? Tired? You're on s on Friday?

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Speaker 4: And get where are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm on kiss as well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he does extra Kyle now.

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Speaker 3: Lit, I don't know if you've done rat in a while,

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Speaker 3: but we like to get these mics right into their well.

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Speaker 4: Mate, normally, I've got engineers helping me out of it.

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Speaker 2: He did that for forty three years.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: Blaker was a big part of our podcast a couple

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Speaker 4: Gave do you know his nickname the one eye one

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Speaker 4: Eyron because I gave him that he was well, he's

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Speaker 4: still a big tall thing. But when he first started

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Speaker 4: young play he looked like a one eye. He had

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Speaker 4: a good golfer. Two, he was a particularly good golfer.

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Speaker 4: He's a single figure marker, I think the one. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't think he plays much anymore. He's got kids

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Speaker 4: and a wife to look after. So he's a good Yeah. Pickford,

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Speaker 4: he's a wonderful Yeah. Picked him as well. That's his mate, mate.

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Speaker 4: I want to give is a wrap too. I just

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Speaker 4: listened to the face to face that you and Matthew.

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Speaker 1: So you're doing a lot of the face to face

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Speaker 1: for Fox Sports for the final series.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're doing a series, Cooper, We're doing. We've done

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Speaker 4: Mick Croman. We've also done Cliffy and Beaver and then

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Speaker 4: your Dad and it's intentioned. I think that we do

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Speaker 4: Kevy and Alphi together, Kevy Waders obviously than your National.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to get older Craig Bellamy to do it

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Speaker 4: but you know, people are harder to get towards the

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Speaker 4: end of the season. So we'll leave that to the

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports to sort out.

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Speaker 2: I have.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, we've got four in the can and hopefully

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Speaker 1: Who's been your favorite so far?

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Speaker 3: Because I just listened to you and Matthew and listen here,

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Speaker 3: this is a great rap for you because I've heard

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Speaker 3: those stories every Saturday for the last fifteen years. The

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Speaker 4: Well, I had the hairs in the back of my

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Speaker 4: next ending up about a couple of the stories. And look,

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Speaker 4: your dad and I, you know, we've known each other

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Speaker 4: for a couple of decades, basically since he came to grade.

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Speaker 2: Third decade, right, yeah, for our third decade.

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Speaker 4: And he spent the life his life taking the piss

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Speaker 4: out of me as a serious broadcaster. And now I'm

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Speaker 4: not a serious broadcaster. Who cares. I had him and

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Speaker 3: Get There's also a rumor Dad started about you that

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Speaker 4: Nipple rings. Your mom and dad came to my place

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Speaker 2: You nipple clamps, that's it.

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Speaker 4: So that caused me some consternation. I was at that

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Speaker 3: Garne Ale mate, Well, I remember there was a bit

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Speaker 2: Each other way back and forward? Yeah? Yeah, because mate,

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Speaker 4: I've got this.

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Speaker 2: I've got this bloke right. And it's funny how people

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Speaker 4: It is funny reflecting back on it now, because I

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Speaker 2: It was funny. We first metature that we did an

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Speaker 4: We're on a roof. We're not a roof and Harley,

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Speaker 4: Harley said, Look, he said, if he can give Maitland

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Speaker 2: Gave the manywait Maitland. The one rate was as far

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Speaker 2: as working relationship, because when I first come into first grade,

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Speaker 2: to you, we lost the right. You lost the rights

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we had them. We actually lost the rights after

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Speaker 4: the Grand Final in nineteen ninety nine, right, so what happened.

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Speaker 4: We have a Super League war and I was on

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Speaker 4: the side of the ar L. So when the NRL

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Speaker 4: the rights at the end of the year two thousand,

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Speaker 4: And I said, oh, well, we'll bat on if they

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Speaker 4: batting about and I said, look, we can still do

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Speaker 4: of everybody. And he said, but people want to hear scores.

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Speaker 4: I said, well, they have people in hot air balloons

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Speaker 4: phoning in with scores. So Singer then injuncted us on

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Speaker 4: But he injuncted me on calling it the continuous call team.

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Speaker 4: So we became the talking league team because we weren't

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Speaker 4: ring in say good ray air gun. Yeah, great day

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Speaker 4: of paramatter. I said, what's the weather like, mate, Yeah, sonny,

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Speaker 4: very much. So we had punners doing it, and so

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Speaker 4: He had Mark Warren calling football. He had Peter Wilkman's

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Speaker 4: calling football. He's calling every game. He was calling Thursday,

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Speaker 4: Friday games on Saturday Sunday, and we weren't calling any games.

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Speaker 4: The survey comes out, we win, so I said, oh,

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Speaker 4: So I couldn't quite believe it, and Bose couldn't believe it,

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Speaker 4: ratings despite not calling the football. So that sort of

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Speaker 4: and the Robertson brothers who write songs for me and

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Speaker 4: them into you know, parodies about footballers and things that,

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Speaker 4: and so that went on for two years, and then

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Speaker 4: I think the NRL got a bit nervous that they'd

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Speaker 4: given the rights to Singo and we were still winning

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Speaker 4: the ratings, and so they decided that maybe they'd put

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Speaker 4: the sack after nine and is it t ui? A

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Speaker 4: Blake called Tony Bell cor We knew his office. He

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Speaker 4: was the CEO of Southern Cross. They bought it off

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Speaker 4: broadcast investments off for the Lamb and Condie families. And

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Speaker 4: I'd been filling in for Laws since nineteen ninety two,

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Speaker 4: you want to do. Your contract's up in October October

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Speaker 4: two thousand and one, and I said, well, I'd like

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Speaker 4: to stay if I can. He said, yeah, You've done

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Speaker 4: well of this continuous call team stuff or talking league,

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Speaker 4: on the outside, Kenny, Sterling, come back on the inside,

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00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,440
Speaker 4: the grave twenty five meters out and like all that stuff.

431
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,119
Speaker 4: And Rex of he's calling it like it was a

432
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 4: TV call. So I didn't work too well for him.

433
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,880
Speaker 4: So in eighty seven Rabs had got the punt from

434
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,119
Speaker 4: Channel ten because he wouldn't go to Los Angeles on

435
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 4: a plane to do the Olympics. Smart move Rabs. He's

436
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 4: a fucking idiot, he's a made of mind, but what

437
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,880
Speaker 4: a fuck with anyway, So they offered the job at

438
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,400
Speaker 4: t UI to Hollywood AND's Orbit to come from gb

439
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,360
Speaker 4: They said no, they were going flying over there, then

440
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 4: the Rabs. He said no. Then to Jeff Pretter who

441
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 4: was calling on two k Y, then to John McCoy

442
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 4: was in Brisbane, then to a black called Kevin Seymour

443
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 4: who was calling a bit of football, and they all

444
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 4: said no because Hollywood and Orbit were dominating. And then

445
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 4: finally Hollier again said to Breno, who would come across

446
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,439
Speaker 4: from two SM about three years earlier? I said, what

447
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 4: about Hadley? And I'd called a couple of games when

448
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 4: Cole two years early was in New Zealand calling test matches,

449
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 4: and they said, yeah, he can call football, so but

450
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 4: he calls racers. He sounds like a race caller. So

451
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 4: Brene I said, well, let's go with him. So they

452
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 4: rang me up and said you want to call the

453
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 4: football in eighty seven and I was getting about nineteen

454
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 4: five hundred dollars a year, and I said, Breno well, yeah,

455
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 4: we'll talk about it. Yeah, I want to be a

456
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 4: race caller. So I rang John Tap who was my

457
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,679
Speaker 4: confidant and mentor, and I said, they want me to

458
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 4: call football mate And he said, well, listen to tell

459
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 4: you the truth. He said, we're just about in our

460
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 4: last league. Sky channel hadn't been invented. He said, there's

461
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 4: two race callers and it said me and a Craig.

462
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 4: He said, there's not room for another one. You're probably

463
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 4: not going to get a start. He said, but go

464
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 4: back and see much money they want to give you.

465
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 4: So I went back and I said to Bren what

466
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 4: sort of cash are we talking about? He said sixty K?

467
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 4: So I ring Tap me back and I said, they

468
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 4: want to give me sixty k. He said, fuck that,

469
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 4: I'll do it, so he said take the job. So

470
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 4: I took the job. We got bashed up by Hollywood

471
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 4: and Zorber in eighty seven and eighty eight. Zorba back

472
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 4: to him. He made a great comment about me knowing

473
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 4: knew who it was. I was a race caller becoming

474
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 4: a rugby league caller. He said, Ray Hadley is the

475
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 4: only good robber bank without a mask on, and they

476
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 4: wouldn't know the fuck are we is?

477
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 1: Did you know much about rugby league.

478
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 4: That I've been a great I'd love the game. Yeah,

479
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 4: I'd sort of vascillator between Paramatter and Balmain because I

480
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 4: came from that sort of area when we moved from

481
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 4: the country. And yeah, ken Thorne it was my hero.

482
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 4: I just loved Ken Thornett back in the sixties, and

483
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 4: I loved Dick. I loved Bobo Riley later on. I

484
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 4: still mates with him. He's going to in fact, he's

485
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 4: buying an apartment next door to me, bobbing and that's

486
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 4: going to work out for.

487
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: Him ort move.

488
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 4: But anyway, so we got lapped eighty seven eighty eight,

489
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 4: and in fact then eighty eight they went again to

490
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 4: Hollywood and Zorba and then Price he left to go

491
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 4: back and played for Wakefield Trinity. He resurrected his career

492
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 4: in England and so we you know, then Peter Felling

493
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 4: Gos helped me, and then Bose came on board and

494
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 4: gave me some credibility because I had none as a

495
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 4: rugby league person, and by nineteen eighty nine ninety ninety

496
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 4: we won the ratings.

497
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: And how did you and Boso become friends?

498
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 4: Well, when when he got beaten in the eighties by

499
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 4: Jack I suppose of the eighty three Grand or maybe

500
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 4: whether they were in eighty one, eighty two, eighty three three.

501
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 2: Grand final outsides. Yeah, mainly Yeah.

502
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 4: Well, Bozo was the coach and Jack had beaten him.

503
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 4: And there's this great photo that Bozo had with me

504
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 4: with a droopy mustache in the background with a microphone

505
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 4: and Bese, I've still got it home, and Beose did

506
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 4: it up for me and said, hey, Jack, if we

507
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 4: keep talking this fuck with behind it probably won't talk

508
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 4: to us, so let's keep talking and something like that,

509
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 4: and Beose gave it to me. Is a bit of

510
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 4: a joke. And then we became very close. And then

511
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 4: I went on kangaroo tours that he was the coaching

512
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 4: and he became Peter Flingos died in two thousand and four.

513
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,239
Speaker 4: He was my best best mate. And then Bese and

514
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 4: I went through the grief of losing Peter together and

515
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 4: we became closer and closer and closer. He became involved

516
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 4: with my family, I became involved in his family, and

517
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 4: I mean I couldn't compete with him intellectually about rugby league.

518
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 4: He was the most incredibly knowledgeable person I've ever met.

519
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: But we just became mates, and until he's untimely death,

520
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 4: of course we were still mates. He came to my

521
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 4: wedding when we married safe. He shouldn't have been there.

522
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 4: He is crook. And I remember taking him back to

523
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 4: the car with end to put him in the car,

524
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 4: and he just he wasn't an emotional sort of blake.

525
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 4: Wasn't a blake to hug people. He shake your hand

526
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 4: and do a limp wristed shake and take the mickey.

527
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 4: But he hugged me really tight, and he called me Horsey.

528
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 4: That was all he ever caught me. He said, horse,

529
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 4: we won't see each other again. And I said, no, no,

530
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 4: I'll come then and see He said, no, no, you

531
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 4: won't come and see me. This is it. I'll see

532
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 4: you later. And I spoke with Zorba at his funeral.

533
00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 4: And I lost my dad in seventy five, I lost

534
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 4: Peter in two thousand and four, and I lost Bozo

535
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 4: more recently. And those are the three most important men

536
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 4: in my life.

537
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: Those when you know, having Chippy, having Boo like you

538
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: know Boso, how integral was he in giving you and

539
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: that show like credibility.

540
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 4: Look, any success I had was traced back to him.

541
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 4: When you had someone and the original mortal on your program.

542
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 4: We had Jack Gibson there as well. We had Wayne

543
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 4: Pierce on the program, Lourie Daily. We're all members of

544
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: the continuous care team, the late Peter Jackson. But Bozo

545
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 4: gave me credibility by treating me as an equal. Okay,

546
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,959
Speaker 4: so I never played first grade rugby league. I never could.

547
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 4: I was a broadcaster, That's what I was, and I'd

548
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 4: like to think I was a competent rugby league broadcaster.

549
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: I did thirty four Grand Finals, ninety nine State of Origins,

550
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 4: and thousands of games. But the credibility that Bob Fulton

551
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: brought to me by treating me as an equal on

552
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 4: air was really amount to my success. For someone like

553
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 4: Bob Fulton to anoint you as someone that can be

554
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 4: listened to made all the difference to my career. I'll

555
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 4: never ever forget the impact that he had on my career.

556
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: How much fun was a continuous call?

557
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 4: I mean it was.

558
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. And to let you know,

559
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 2: Hollywood and Disorba, so Peter Peters and gree Hartley, they

560
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: were that they were like the first team to come

561
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: along and really provide this great entertainment show that they're

562
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 2: the originals, and then new blokes well copy the form

563
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: a little bit similar formula.

564
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: Well, Coopy, what used to happen, say, when Frank was

565
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 4: calling the football and Tiger Black on two k Y

566
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 4: and Cole Piers they come on a ten to three

567
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 4: on a Saturday and Sunday and call the football and

568
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 4: then be off at.

569
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: Five seeing Danny Boy and this.

570
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 4: Frank seeing any boy and go am. And what Hollywood

571
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 4: and Zorba did with Richard Fisk, who was their producer

572
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 4: of Great Old Maid of Mine is still battling around.

573
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: They came on at midday and started and he'd had

574
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 4: his brother Tony Peter's doing it of using the dressing

575
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 4: rooms and all that sort of stuff. And Tanney was

576
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 4: a great beat up merchant and I got a big

577
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 4: story down his orb. Someone's got a car back on

578
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 4: their ass, you know. And so they brought theater to it.

579
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 4: And even now Peter is a good mate of mine,

580
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 4: and he'll say to me, you know, you'd be nothing

581
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 4: without me, he said, because we said there And they

582
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: created this mystique about rugby league in the early eighties,

583
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 4: you know, through through to the period when they didn't dominate.

584
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 4: They made a mistake. They went from to Jibi to

585
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: k Why and they shouldn't have done it, you know,

586
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 4: And that's how we eventually beat them when they went

587
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 4: to k Why. But so we'd come on at midday

588
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 4: and you do you know, the Super League War changed

589
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 4: it because there was that much drama. Cooper, your dad

590
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 4: lived through it. I lived through it. Now everyone was

591
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 4: fighting with each other mates, someone were fighting with each other.

592
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 4: Gibbs used to fight with Chippy. Chippy had fight with Gibbs.

593
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 4: Bezo would fight with Chippy because bezon Arilla line. And

594
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 4: it became so I said one day, I said, listen,

595
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 4: all this bullshit's got to stop. Okay, we can't keep

596
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 4: fighting with each other. No one gives a flying fuck

597
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 4: because it's not fun anymore. We've got to make it

598
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 4: fun again. So I spoke to the Robertson brothers who

599
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: were mates of mine, and said, I need some Rugby

600
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 4: League parodies. And one of the Robinson brothers, Benny's a

601
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: great Rugby League fan, so I didn't have to explain

602
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 4: to him what I needed, you know, and hed do

603
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 4: all these parodies, so we'd start having fun. And so

604
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 4: we'd come on at twelve for about fifteen minutes and

605
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 4: talk about the game the night before, and then chaos, chaos, yeah,

606
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 4: just nothing to do with rugby and chip it off

607
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: and say what's this gut there with rugby league? Say fuck, oh,

608
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 4: let's get into it, and we'd have fun and we'd

609
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: and I honestly would sit there both that to you,

610
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 4: and later at two GB, I would just whip myself laughing.

611
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: And I was a pedel operator as well as controlling

612
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 4: the show. I was in the chair, and so I

613
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: had jobs to do, and we'd have the one eye

614
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 4: and other young Blake's pressing the buttons for ads next

615
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 4: door in the joining studio. But sometimes you just couldn't

616
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 4: stop laughing, you know. And then and then the big

617
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 4: Man rejoined the team, and he's one of the funniest

618
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 4: men I've ever worked with, that funny, and you know,

619
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 4: sometimes it's funny when he doesn't mean to be funny.

620
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: They're the funniest.

621
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: They like it there. And so all of a sudden

622
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 4: it took on this, you know, and I still get

623
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 4: people now, and the continuous call team still exists. But

624
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 4: not with me as part of it anymore. But I'd

625
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 4: get people coming up to me and say, and this

626
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 4: is the longevity part of it that your father's referring to.

627
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 4: So I'll get people that came up to me previously

628
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 4: and said, well, I started listening with my dad, and

629
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 4: now I'll listen with my son. Because we started effectively

630
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 4: in eighty seven, but we got into it in about

631
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty nine, ninety ninety, and then particularly when Super

632
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 4: League hit, and then we had to find another thing

633
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 4: to do because you couldn't just talk about the Super

634
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 4: League all the time because it was boring his bat shit.

635
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 4: And it was two media heavyweights that was News Limited

636
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: against Kerry Packet's organization trying to get control for either

637
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 4: Optors or Fox, you know. In the end, and then

638
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 4: the first court case under James Birchett delivered a verdict

639
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: to the aarl like one hundred nil, and then I

640
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 4: appeal and went to the News Limited organization one hundred nil,

641
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 4: you know. And so then when I said, look, the

642
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: war's over, let's get on with it. Ah, you're a

643
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: trade of the cause. Well, I can say with some

644
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 4: confidence I was one of the very few people along

645
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: with Chippy not to make a quid out of the

646
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 4: Super League War. Everyone else would getting money stypends from

647
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 4: either the Aarl Optus or Fox or News. You know.

648
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 4: People were buying farms on the money they got. And

649
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 4: I remember Blocker, who'd retired previously to it today, a

650
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 4: front rower who wouldn't stand in his boots got about

651
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: six hundred thousand dollars and block is it? What abouther?

652
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 4: There's fucking idiots six hundred thousand twice the player he

653
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: was that he was right, you know, And so the

654
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: game needed to grow out of that. And fortunately the

655
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 4: people I did battle with, including Gallop and Ensley and

656
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 4: the whole range of them, they're great mates of mine, now,

657
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: you know. And let me say this to you, Cooper,

658
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: that's an old black. I'm seventy one next month. If

659
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 4: it happened all over again, I do it entirely differently

660
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, I remember after

661
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 4: the big battle on the footage show where I served

662
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 4: it up the ReBs where he said Alan Lang is

663
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 4: going to be a superstar in Beijing, and I said, well,

664
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: that's all bullshit. You know, they're not going to start

665
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 4: playing rugby league there and it's all about money. John

666
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 4: and Kerry Packer was in the outer area and James

667
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 4: came in and shook my hand and said, thanks mate,

668
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: he'd done a great job. So when they got back together,

669
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 4: Channel Line started doing this super League. They got the

670
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 4: rights to super League, so they were televising AARL and

671
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: Super League and then someone from the combined NRL, maybe ReBs.

672
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't care, change my life, changed

673
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 4: my career. Said you can't have badly on the footy show.

674
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: So the blaker come and shook my hand and said

675
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 4: you'd done a great job. Said you're not back next year,

676
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 4: You're gone, And so I thought, what was this all about?

677
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: And to that point about whether it's ReBs or whether

678
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 4: it's someone else. When we lost the rights in two thousand,

679
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 4: I owed them a great ditta gratitude. I went from

680
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: earning three hundred thousand earning three million. I mean, so

681
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: you can't be that with people who do things for

682
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 4: other reasons when it benefits you. And it did benefit

683
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: me greatly because I had a broadcasting There were twenty

684
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: five years.

685
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: On that old you and we know how TV works.

686
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: You always have from the background, you know, let's get

687
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: ray on right. What ray is going to do? Rail Really,

688
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: he'll say the things others won't be going to say.

689
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: He'll take it right up to rubs and john Z

690
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: Chris John's and made it really good.

691
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 4: Raye.

692
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: Listen tonight, mate, Let's not let these blokes get away

693
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: with this blah blah blah blah blah. How do you

694
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 2: like before the show? Is that how it was played out?

695
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course it was. I mean, it wasn't pre conceived,

696
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: but they just let me off the leash. And I

697
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 4: was a young, impetuous blake, not as smart as I

698
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 4: am now, thankfully, because as you get older, you get smarter.

699
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: We do, I'm sure that.

700
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: So I was an impetuous blake and I you know,

701
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: and don't forget, we had an arl crowd. So every

702
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 4: time I go, yeah, get out of down, both go yeah,

703
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 4: little beauty. And there are other people on the panel

704
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: getting splinters in their arts from not doing that. They

705
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 4: were smarter than me, and so I was used to

706
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: a certain extent. But you know, I was a willing participant.

707
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 4: I wasn't Stockholm syndrome. I wasn't punished into doing and

708
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 4: I just did it because I thought it was right.

709
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: So remind me the two sides. Reeves was on the

710
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: Superlice side, and who was the face of the A

711
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: R L side?

712
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 4: Well, Ken Arthurs and Jim Quayle. Yeah, okay, okay, two

713
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 4: great men. I still see. He's retired up there at

714
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 4: Main Beach and John Quayle is just a champion. He's

715
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 4: in semi retirement up in the heart of Valley. I

716
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: spoke to him recently and just look fantastic loyal men.

717
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: And you know Guss was part of the deal along

718
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: with Bozo. There's a famous story about Steve Gillis now

719
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 4: and I claimed, weird Chimes, Well, I claim, I don't

720
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 4: know if he tell you this story, but he's in

721
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 4: the corridors of the Aril and Philip Street, right and

722
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: he's covering it for the Daily Telegraph. And so the

723
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 4: lawyers had said to Beozo and Gus, they've got to

724
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: have representation a manager, not just a lawyer. They've got

725
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 4: have a manager. So Bezo walked out and said, Chimes,

726
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: come here, said how much you getting paid to the Telegraph.

727
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: He said, good, you land double, come in here. You're

728
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 4: a manager.

729
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah wow.

730
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: So and so if I think Keith Blackett was his

731
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 4: first place.

732
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: Batti Blake up and said, matter, I think I could

733
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: be the next walle E Lewis.

734
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Keith Blackett. So Chimes became and now here

735
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: we are only forty years later. Chimes are still a manager.

736
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: And he got Bezo and Gus and the rest of them.

737
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 4: Think about it because he was and his Natee pad

738
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 4: out riding for the Daily Telegraph.

739
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: Incredible. So to give an ideal, Ragious said, there, and

740
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: I remember listening to your radio showed during the Super

741
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: League War, and I remember it got to the point

742
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: I remember that you said, listen, we're singing of this.

743
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 4: All we're doing is.

744
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: Get people ringing up and you're bagging this or bagging that. Mate,

745
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: we're brushing it super League aarl. It's pre his own

746
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: because what actually happened at the time the game in

747
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: early in ninety five, we're a first hit for that

748
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: first three or four months the game become the game's

749
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: almost become irrelevant. Yeah, everything everything that was covered around

750
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: the game was RL or Super League and the war

751
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: that was going on. And you are to be like

752
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: if Ray halfway they said, oh, by the way, you

753
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: know dogs areluding sixty and twelve people we didn't get.

754
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 4: Fuck. Yeah, that's exactly right. I think the crucial point

755
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: was at marathon. What you wouldn't remember this, but when

756
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: we first and Gary Harley had a problem with this,

757
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 4: when we first started broadcasting up there after eighty eight,

758
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 4: the broadcast boxes on top of the old grandstand on

759
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 4: the western side.

760
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: I remember just having to get up there. Yeah, and

761
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: so what had happened.

762
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 4: Harley was probably a bit lighter than he is now,

763
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: but he was still you know, at a few kges

764
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty, Yeah, something like that. My love Gazer,

765
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 4: I can't bad gas. He's one of my best mates.

766
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 4: But anyway, what there was a VIP box right, and

767
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 4: there was no toilet up there when we started, no toilet,

768
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: so they drop a ladder down the VIP box and

769
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 4: all the broadcasters to go up at midday and they'd

770
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 4: pull the ladder up. Yeah, you know, the ladder was

771
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 4: on the roof. Yeap. He was stuck up there. So

772
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 4: they were stuck up there. He had to piss on

773
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 4: against a.

774
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: Wall so that the commentry boxes, because I helped build

775
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: the commentry boxes, holds the groundsman they had to carry

776
00:34:59,680 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: all that.

777
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you get a fuck a good job?

778
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: I was wondering, didn't come a complete literally tragedy.

779
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 4: Where were the toilets?

780
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: They were attached to the roof of Mason, the old

781
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: stadium roof, so there was no way getting down they

782
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: You had to have to drop a ladder down from

783
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: the commentry boxes down to the crowd, walk down to

784
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: the crowd, go up room out the back and have

785
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: a squirt so for.

786
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: The crowd, like they'd be abusing you and what not.

787
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 4: No, No, they were very happy. They were having They

788
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 4: were all nerves in a corporate box and they're pissed

789
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: and we'd be climbing down the middle of them. But anyway,

790
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 4: there was a blue. The point I wanted to make,

791
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: so there's a blue on air between Gus on behalf

792
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 4: of the aar L and he was staunch and chippy

793
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 4: on behalf of usually because he had a wife and kids.

794
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: He had to look after himself. Telegraph reporter.

795
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so anyway there was a blue and it was

796
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: really personal. So I shook my head and we went

797
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 4: or break. I said, well, that's it, I said, Gus

798
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 4: was working with us at the time. That's it. No

799
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: more what do you mean? I said, no more blowing

800
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 4: about the a R. Get finished. And Boze backed me

801
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 4: up and said, boys, it's boring, it really is boring.

802
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: And Bozo was an arl man, but he said it's boring.

803
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 4: Let's change tac and let's you know. And so I

804
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 4: said to Chippy and Gus, I said, shake hands and

805
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: let's get back into it. And gives. He used to

806
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 4: still froth at the mouth and you couldn't come in down.

807
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 4: He was like a little terrier with Chippy, you know,

808
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 4: and you're try and calm him down. I had to laugh.

809
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: He went on the seven thirty report and said I

810
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 4: was a bully when I had a little bit of

811
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 4: drama at radio, and I thought, Jesus, he's forgotten what

812
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 4: happened with him back in the day. But anyway, I digress.

813
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 4: So that was that was that day at marathon was

814
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: the end of it. That was the finish of it.

815
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 4: And by the way, they eventually put a Brasco in there,

816
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 4: but they put a curtain across if a cameraman or

817
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: someone from Channel nine or the A B C or

818
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 4: two GB or two UE wanted to go and have

819
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 4: a squirt or something else.

820
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: The curtain was thrown across the curtain.

821
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 4: You draw the curtain across time.

822
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 3: I pull you out for one second, Bob Fulden, because

823
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 3: I met Boso when I was a junior at Manly,

824
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 3: and Bozo never struck me as like somebody who would

825
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: have been a real funny guy on radio.

826
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: Because he always seemed quite serious to me. Is that

827
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: my perception?

828
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 2: Tell the story where Bozo he's playing for the stuy

829
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: Ball of Manly. There was a certain tactic they were

830
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: using and the coach was denied and I don't know

831
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: why they did that. And then Bozo stay in the

832
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: back of the room and said, Cooper, why was the

833
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: team doing that? And you said, O, well, the coach

834
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: told us, well, thank you very much.

835
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, Well I can understand as a young black,

836
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 4: you know, teenage.

837
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 2: I was seventeen.

838
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well there was two bezs. There's Footy Bezo and

839
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 4: fun bel right, And I was mainly involved with fun

840
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: Bezo because I couldn't speak to Beze. You get Blocker

841
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: and Bese talking together and they're talking another language, you know,

842
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 4: about tactics and rugby league. And I was just a

843
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 4: caller that called what happened in front of me, and

844
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 4: they'd be talking about, you know, the different plays that

845
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 4: should have happened, and how you counteract things and all

846
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: the rest of it. But Bozo he grew into that role. Okay,

847
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: So he was like in the eighties, it was fairly intense.

848
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 4: You know, when they won the Grand Final in eighty seven,

849
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 4: my first Grand Final when mainly beat Camberri at the SCG,

850
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: he was really intense. And even later on he was intense,

851
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: but he became less intense. He was a private person

852
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 4: who had to gain his trust for him to you know,

853
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: really trust you to the extent he tell you things

854
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: he wouldn't tell other people. But I'll give you an

855
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: example of how funny he is. We were in I

856
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 4: might have been ninety four when they scored that great

857
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 4: try at Old Trafford and back at.

858
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 5: One Hall and malmoninger Rickie Stewart and trained an intersept

859
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 5: pass and they won the first Test at Wembley, I think,

860
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 5: great Britain, and then we won the second one at

861
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 5: Old Trafford.

862
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 2: The best game of all time.

863
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, a great game and great call by the late

864
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: David Morrow on TV who was working with Channel ten

865
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: and I called on radio. But anyway, Beze said that

866
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: Chippy and I am Thirsty right here. We're going to

867
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 4: have a weekend. This weekend, I'm giving the players some

868
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 4: time off just to kick back and relax. I can

869
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 4: go and do what they like, he said, and we're

870
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 4: gonna have a bit of fun as well. So I

871
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 4: said what are we doing? And he said, you've got

872
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 4: a car horse. He said, Chippy doesn't drink, so he

873
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 4: can drive it. We'll go to a place called Wilmslow,

874
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 4: south of Manchester. He said, we'll go down there on

875
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 4: a Saturday night. We'll have a food and a bit

876
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 4: of fun and get on the drink. And I didn't

877
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 4: drink that much at that stage, but I said, okay,

878
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 4: on for that. Thirsty was called thirsty for obvious reasons.

879
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: So we get in this little car and we're driving

880
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 4: back to Manchester in the fog, and Bezes had a skinful.

881
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: He's in the front. I'm in the back with Thirsty

882
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 4: and we both had a skinful and Chippy stone cold.

883
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 4: So we get a round about, big roundabout, and Beze

884
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: said nine n second exit and on third exit, fourth exit,

885
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 4: go straight ahead and all this act shut up. You idiots.

886
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 4: What am I going to do? So we get halfway

887
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: through the roundabout and Beze pulls o handbreak on and

888
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 4: we do a three sixty. Good work, Bobby, you could

889
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: kill us all here in the fight on the round

890
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: about in Manchester. So next thing, the blue light flashes, right,

891
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: I said, oh the coppers. I thank god ship he's

892
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 4: not drinking. So anyway, the copper pulls us over and

893
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 4: he says, what are you blokes doing? And he said,

894
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: our officer. We're with the Australian rugby league team. This

895
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 4: is the coach, Bob Fulton comes from Warrington, originally trying

896
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 4: to suck up and two commentators in the back. He said,

897
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 4: but we're just lost, he said, we're trying to He said,

898
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: well I just saw you. He said, spin it, arm mate.

899
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 4: You know the car, We just probably took it a

900
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 4: bit too quick and all that. So Beze sitting there

901
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 4: looking at this cop who had the big like the

902
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 4: Bobby's had on. Yeah, and so without missing a beat,

903
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 4: Beze I said how big is your fucking head? And

904
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 4: so she said shut up, shut up. He said no,

905
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 4: he said, take you on, what I want to see

906
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: if your heads is big without the helmet. So anyway,

907
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 4: the copper says he you come from Warrington. He said,

908
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 4: yees come from Warrington, and so Boze said, oh yeah,

909
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 4: the yeah I made that, and so you know, he said,

910
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 4: now you go straight through the roundabout and Chippy saying

911
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: shut up about his head. And so the copper walks

912
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 4: away and Beze sticks he said that the window and said,

913
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: you're still got a fucking big answer.

914
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: It's good fight, all right. Bob Fulton a good fighter.

915
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 4: I never saw him fight, but I would imagine, I'll

916
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 4: tell you one thing, he'd never give up. Well, he

917
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 4: would have thought like he played rugby league.

918
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: And the boys. One thing for you Blakes, which I

919
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: really appreciate, is that they would as a team. You'd

920
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: stick tight. So if someone got into one of you blakes,

921
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: you got into all this. Yeah, I remember there was

922
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: an instance once we played in nine. We played Cronulla

923
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 2: at home. Right now, what had happened Ray going the game? Andrew?

924
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: We lost in Origin through the week and Joey had

925
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: a particularly poor game. Anyway, one of the selectors had

926
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: tipped Chippy off and said, mate, John's Andrew's going to

927
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: be dropped and he's right, So that paper runs it

928
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: going into that game that day. Anyway, we're going to

929
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: the game and Joey in this game has a blinder,

930
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: ends up setting up bet four or five tries and

931
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: you know, really states his case to remain in the team. Anyway,

932
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: I'm walking into the press conference with Warren Warren Ryan

933
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: who actually hated Chippy.

934
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: You know, and it was mutual, like I said, it

935
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 4: was mutual.

936
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: Mutual and anyway, he said, he do you so favors

937
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: stick up for your brother here. Now I didn't know

938
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: what was had been on the back paper, and I

939
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: certainly didn't know the Chippy wrote it.

940
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: All.

941
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 2: I was saying that the selectors, you know, talking about

942
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: dropping and if they dropping their kidding anyway, I said,

943
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: you know this anyway, they Warren nudged me and said,

944
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: trying to defend your brother and it was all about

945
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: Chippy and he goes. I said, yeah, there's all the

946
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: reports going around, but Andrew been dropped. Fan if you

947
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 2: saw him today, you know, if anyone wants to drop Joey, mate,

948
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: they just done out. They're looking at well as I

949
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: walk out, Barry too, who graws me it was a

950
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: Newcastle journalist knew Chippy very well, and he said, oh, listen,

951
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: you want to be careful. He said, mate, be just

952
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: taking that personal and I said, well, no, not having

953
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: to go, Chippy, I'm having to go anyway. It was

954
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: too late, so for the next seax, I turned on

955
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: the Every time I turned on the continuous call. All

956
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: I was saying is made seriously. Newcastle are fantastic side,

957
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: but they've got to get a decent.

958
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: Fucking five a well. To that extent, you work now

959
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 4: occasionally with Buzz and look, I used to have a

960
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 4: fair platform. I was working seven days a week right.

961
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 4: I was doing the talkback show, the talk show Monday

962
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 4: to Friday, and the football so I could square up

963
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 4: with Buzz. I'm now legless. If he attacks me, I've

964
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: got unless this podcast I can give him, sir. But

965
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 4: I noticed that Andrew is locked on with bulldog Richie

966
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 4: this ye Jack check. Look Andrew, you're fighting any your

967
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: weight division. I pissed myself. Bulldogs are made of mine.

968
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 4: But you know this. I've been riding rugby league for

969
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: thirty six years and I'm went for foxake ball. I'll

970
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: drop off. I mean, you think paramatter are legalist under

971
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: Jason Rowles I disagree with you, by the way. I

972
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: think Rolls will be a really good coaching and I

973
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 4: think he's done a pretty good job this year. Joey

974
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 4: thinks like I do. And just because he happen to

975
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: mention your name, mate, it's notoriety. It's notoriety. He said

976
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 4: your name. He didn't say you know Bullman Richie or

977
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: get your name. He got your name right. So if

978
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 4: you get your name right, it's a fairly large audience.

979
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 4: He's talking to one free to wear, so just cop it.

980
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 4: But Andrew.

981
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: Is a character I love about bulldoger this. Someone asked

982
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: me about Bulldog recently, and Bulldog write these articles philly

983
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: provocative articles on para matta And they said, yeah, what

984
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: was behind that? I said, You've got to understand about Bulldog, right,

985
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: I said, when Bulldog wrote that story a number of

986
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 2: years ago, during the COVID years, this is the worst

987
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: Queensland side ever, right, And they they're going to win

988
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: the series. Well, that front page that Bulldog had written

989
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 2: and been proven dramatically and all the coins. Most people

990
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: would get that front page of Barrett in their backyard.

991
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: Every time he is interviewed via zoom, he sits in

992
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: the camera in the background. Not only has he got

993
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: the front page, he went and got a fucking frame.

994
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: I did, like, what was the headline, Jack of the

995
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: Jack's got it? What's the headline of the article he

996
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 3: rode about Joey. It's like something you don't have to

997
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: be an immortal or something.

998
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 2: Don't need an immortal snapping at my heels.

999
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 4: There's nothing People in Melbourne dont understand that. There's nothing

1000
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 4: like a rugby league blue And what you're.

1001
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: About to listen to is, as you may have just learned,

1002
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 3: Bulldog Richie went after our uncle Joey during the week,

1003
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: so we decided to play a little prank back on Bulldog.

1004
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 4: Enjoy mate, Doggie boy, what mate, I'm in the middle

1005
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 4: of a podcast with Joey. Now I've got a bit

1006
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 4: of mile that you're going to unleash on three sixty

1007
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 4: or something. No, im, mate, you've got to drop off.

1008
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: He's an immortal. I know you've been capping in the

1009
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: game for thirty six years, but you've got to.

1010
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: Drop one of my favorite players of all time.

1011
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 4: Well, mate, you wouldn't think so, the way you're right

1012
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 4: about him. That was a disgrace what you said about him, mate,

1013
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: he's a personal made of mine. He's a personal friend

1014
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: of mine. Okay, well, I don't think so. The way

1015
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 4: he's talking about you here, has he bagging me? Well,

1016
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say he's being very complimentary?

1017
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: Okay, he take me first?

1018
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 4: Attack you, mate? He's an immortal. Isn't titled attack who

1019
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 4: he likes? Aren't your opinion? Well? Mate, yes i am,

1020
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 4: But I wouldn't take on an immortal. Ain't they're not

1021
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 4: an immortal? No, look, i'd advise you on now, I'm serious.

1022
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 4: I'd advise you on three sixty to drop off. Mate.

1023
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 4: I'm not going to Well, you're not going to go

1024
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 4: on there, So you ship yourself.

1025
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: You apologize to me?

1026
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 4: Hang on, hang on, he's here. What do you say, Joe?

1027
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: If you want to apologize, sweet, are.

1028
00:46:58,719 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 4: You gonna apologize?

1029
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: Apolog Why not?

1030
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 4: It takes a big man bulldog to step back from things. Okay,

1031
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 4: you've been doing for thirty six years. It won't be

1032
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 4: the first apology you've made me, well, mate, hang on,

1033
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: hang on, and he might he concede what you want

1034
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 4: to do.

1035
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: I'll apologize. He's apolagy that sorry, mate?

1036
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 4: Oh then that's fine.

1037
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Too, we got to move on.

1038
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: That was Maddy, by the way, you're on the podcast,

1039
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 4: but Jack and Matthew John Bye bye.

1040
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: I would not have gone better, well, would I tell you?

1041
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: Terrific Blake. That's the end of part one, right, that's

1042
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: time to jump over for part two, which I hope

1043
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: you enjoy every bit as much I know you will