WEBVTT - JOSH AND STEFANO: A Surprising Confession.... Josh Recognised Stefano? 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.840 It's the final morning of their honeymoon, and before returning 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.120 to Sydney and moving in together, Josh and Stefano sit 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:09.639 down for their most honest conversations so far. They share 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:12.520 how they're really feeling, what they've learned about each other, 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:15.760 and Josh has a confession their wedding day wasn't the 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.440 first time he'd seen Stefano's face before, which he didn't 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:21.840 realize until they had arrived on their honeymoon. 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.160 Okay, it's the last morning of our honeymoon. We've now 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.080 spent an entire week together, Stefan. 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:33.760 An entire week. Last week we were strangers. I know, 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:35.240 your husband and husband. 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:39.159 Yeah, how are you feeling? How do you think this 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:39.800 week has been? 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:42.280 It was very interesting. 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.040 Uh, it's the first time that I have this kind 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:50.320 of experience, you know, like having one week with somebody 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.839 that I have never met before. It's like kind of 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:56.560 a challenging. Was very nice. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.320 Yeah, I think I keep saying it as like it 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.840 feels like it's been the world's longest first date. Yeah, 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.959 because we meet the wedding night that was like lovely, 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:08.800 but it was it was kind of like a whirlwind, right, 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:13.280 We didn't really get to really get to know each other. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:18.960 Then we wake up, drive hair to the Burrita hotel, 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.160 Someone Highlands Lovely, and then we get here and. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.640 It's like, oh, it's just men. You know. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.680 Well, I'm glad that we have many activities around the area. 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:37.560 We had seen many things like the being big potato potato. 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:39.560 Everyone's gonna be so confused listening. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.399 But in the Someone Highlands they used to have a 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.160 big statue of a big potato, and then years ago 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.080 they decided to repaint it pink because Babe the Pig 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.240 was filmed it and now it's the big Pink Icon. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.160 All the people. 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.800 Taking pictures and so if you come to this area, 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:58.320 I really recommend you. 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.760 To do this to basit the big potato, the big 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.280 big potato, the big pink potato. 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:08.120 And you said, you just said, like this week has 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.880 been challenging at times, Like yeah, for you, how has 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:12.720 it been challenging? 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:21.120 Well, because we didn't know the way we are, Like, 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.840 for example, I go to bed very late, and for 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.200 you it's it was hard. I mean I found out 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:32.600 this just last night because you told me, and well 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.720 you know that I don't wake up so early, but 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.520 I did a lot during this week, I woke up 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:39.200 very early. 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:43.560 It's yeah, it's like we I never thought about this, 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.799 but we like, culturally, I was raised with this kind 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.000 of nine o'clock, ten o'clock bedtime, wake up, six seven 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.160 work time, Whereas where you're from, it's like you don't 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:55.359 have dinner till midnight. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.600 Yeah, I mean night but ten and last night was 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.480 six pm and you wanted to order full and was 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.480 like no really, but. 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.800 Like I think so last night I did get like 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.680 a bit overwhelmed and like I mean, we spoke about 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.280 it briefly, and I think it was because. 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:16.560 It's been a lot. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.280 Like it's I'm one of those people that I need 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:21.840 time on my own, like even like I have a 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:23.320 busy det work, I get home, I say to my 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.760 housemate Ryan, Hey, it's just maybe I'm gonna have an hour. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.040 I just want to watch Telly and not talk. I 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.440 just need to be with my thoughts. And like I 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.799 married a stranger. We spent the night in the hotel 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.040 and since then we haven't had it pretty much a 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:40.560 second apart. And last night for me, it maybe like 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.280 peaked a little bit. And then I told you, because 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.360 every night since we met, I've kind of been like 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.440 pushing myself to step later, and because I want you, 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:53.280 I want to obviously spend time with you. Like the 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.240 first wedding night, were up till three am, and I 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.400 was like, I woke up at four thirty that morning. 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.240 It was a wedding night, come on, yeah. 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.040 But then the next there we stay up like again, 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.360 and it's like got to the point last night where 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.560 I was just like, I'm exhausted. 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.400 It was eight o'clock. I was like, I just need 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.200 to go to bed. How old are you again? Can 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:15.160 you help me with that? Sixty five? But WHOA. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.280 I think that at the end, we understood each other 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.480 and we tried to, you know, find a balance. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:24.960 I went to bed last night. I went to bed 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:26.039 at ten thirty. 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.520 And you ended up falling asleep before me because we 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:29.760 were watching the laptop in bed. 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:31.880 And then I was like, oh, this is a change. 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.360 Well, I wanted you to feel comfortable and I wanted 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.080 to show you that I can go to bed early. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.479 But then I think, like the the big thing last 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.680 night for me was I hadn't actually told you a 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.240 week like how much I was maybe pushing myself to 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.560 do more style uplight, like be a lot more active 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.279 than I usually would because I didn't want to like 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.200 feel like I'm being boring for you, like, oh, why 0:04:58.240 --> 0:04:59.760 do you want to go to bed at ten o'clock? Like, 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.800 But then last night I kind of said, hey, like 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:06.440 I really have been pushing myself this week, but actually 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.280 it's a lot. And I was a bit nervous and 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.440 that because I didn't need to think, oh, he's important, 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:13.919 like you ruining the vibe. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:17.440 But yes, and I told you, like, I'm happy to 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.320 try to find the violence, you know, between the things 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:25.080 that we like and we don't like. Like I played 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.280 tennis with you and I'm not like a big fan 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.159 of tennis, and you did well. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:35.160 I was surprised for me. It's like. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:45.839 You have such a positivity constantly, which I lack, and like. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.279 Like in the first day together, the first morning. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.080 Together, the first morning we wake up and what did 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:51.039 I say? What do you say? 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.200 With the curtains were like opening, and then you went, 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.440 what a beautiful blue sky? And I went, what that 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.000 little bit past that ugly big bilding next to us. 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:07.200 Yeah, that's like the perfect example of the different point 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.000 of view that we have of life. 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.080 And that's something I know I need to work on, 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:16.760 like being around you. I am trying to think more like, oh, 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.640 why approach with a negative? Why I start with a negative? 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:21.240 Why? 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.720 Like to me often it's also dishumor with it. But 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.799 then it's actually, well, yeah it's a joke. But actually 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.680 that first morning we wake up together, we open the curtains, 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.480 we press record, and your first thing was the positive. 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.320 Mine was the negative. And then I mean. 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.440 It's just we're seeing the same glass you're seeing. You're 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.080 seeing like half empty and I'm seeing it half full. 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:46.200 And I try to be more optimistic in life day 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.760 by day, and I hope that you can do the 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:53.600 same I try with you, and I hope you can 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:57.640 be more miserable day to day for me, I'm gonna 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:58.039 skip that. 0:06:58.279 --> 0:06:58.719 Okay. 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.720 I'm surprised how easily we got along. Like I know, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:06.400 Pedro said he matches obviously because like on a description, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.600 it was like, well, I described someone similar to you, 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.560 and then Padro said to me, after do it and 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.520 these more than that, you like you will just have 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.400 fun and have a laugh. And like I know Patro 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.480 very well, so if he says that, I'd be like, oh, 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.120 there must be something. And even though I suppose we 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.480 from literal different parts of the world and from different 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:31.040 worlds in pretty much every sense, like I've found we 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.200 have just been able to every day we've had fun 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:35.320 or I've had fun. 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:39.480 No. It was. 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.640 Very interesting the fact that there were some moments that 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.880 I was like, we're so different. I don't understand the 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:51.320 algorithm or how faith or march ours. And then all 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.720 the moments that I felt like, oh, this is so nice. 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.600 I'm surpriseder, I'm having so much fun with somebody that 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:58.320 is so different. 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.000 But then there's been moments in between all the fun 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.480 things where there's been. 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.040 Confusion. What do you say like with the. 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.840 I think, because again we didn't know each other and 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:15.480 we're still getting to know each other, but the way 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.800 we speak and maybe sac as am or humor or 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:19.320 what's a joke? 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:20.160 What's not a joke? 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:24.400 And you've said things to me that I've interpreted like 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.480 quite negatively, like almost as if it was a judgment 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.520 or like patron I had said that came across patronizing, 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.319 and you didn't really know what patronizing meant because you 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.640 didn't know that word right, And then I explained, and 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:37.920 then you kind of said that was not your intent. 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:41.560 It's just and I think that's what's taken getting used 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:45.839 to because I usually like what you might go in 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.240 the first date with someone and they might say something 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.679 like I'm not sure about that, but maybe you wouldn't 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:53.360 say something because it's just the first date. You don't 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.840 have to see them again. But with this, maybe the 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.920 first day or so together, there'd be those moments where 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:02.400 we both would think things but we wouldn't say it. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.760 But then I think we got to that good place 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:10.960 where I said to you, like, actually, I didn't like 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.840 how you just said that because it made me feel 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:16.440 this way, and then you said, well, I didn't mean that, 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:18.920 and then we kind of had that conversation about. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.640 I mean, the language barrier and the cultural barier. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:26.959 Years are like two very important things for a relationship. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:32.480 I mean, to big challenges because it's not easy. Not 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.560 my first language, so it's. 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:38.040 A third language. I just assumed the second, but no Spanish, 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.120 Italian then English. 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:43.200 Yes, And for me it's like I want to be funny, 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.400 and I feel like in Spanish I'm very funny, but 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.079 then it's not the same in English, and I try, 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:53.520 I mean I try, so maybe sometimes it doesn't go 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.560 the way that I want, you know, and also like 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:02.640 maybe just maybe maybe you have it's sensitive with some things, 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:04.280 am I right? 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:09.600 Yeah, but we've kind of like you, so what we want. 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:11.480 We don't have to go into the specifics of that. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.920 But there's like maybe a couple of things you didn't 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.520 know about me and my past, and then you make 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.559 like a I, which the average person funny, But when 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.640 I associate that with things I've been through, and then 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.800 you see my mood changing, and then I suppose we 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.240 spoke about that, and I don't want to say I 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.720 need to learn to not be sensitive, because like when 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.880 things are attached to trauma like it, you have to Yeah, 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:34.280 but I. 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.440 Told you I want to let's talk about this so 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:37.640 I understand what is it? 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.960 What is the root of your suffering? 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:47.199 You know why you're so sensitive with those topics and 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.520 you don't want to talk. And I understand that your 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.880 culture is more like keeping everything inside, but for us, 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.000 it's more like talking and trying to understand each other. 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.840 So it's it's you're you know, like the relationship because 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.040 I don't know if you remember, but we've got merried, 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:08.600 so I'm trying to understand my partner, and I understand 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.600 what's going on in his mind and his heart. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.800 Yeah, and I appreciate it. For me, it's. 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.880 Interesting because like these these topics and we've kind of 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.719 touched on them pot talking, but like when you made 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.520 a joke that I'm like, actually that I really like 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.000 that kind of hurts me because of things in the 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.080 past that you've got no idea, And I know that 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.960 everything you've said to me, I've never felt any bad intent, 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.640 and I can like, deep down everything you said, there's 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:38.520 nothing malicious, there's nothing you want to upset me. And 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.760 then but these things which are right, like my culture, 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.280 we suppress things. 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:45.959 But then I. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.200 Think in the moments we've touched on these, it's just 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:52.920 I haven't really felt ready in that moment. And that's 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.560 something in my life. Like we've spoke about my book, 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.040 and we'st speak about that in a moment. But all 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.600 the biggest things I've been through, I find it easier 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.560 to get them out in private, whether that's on paper, 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:08.079 even in my podcast series. There's a lot I've shared personally, 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.760 and it's weird because I know so many people are 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.319 gonna listen. I'll read, but when it's just me recording 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.280 a writing in a room alone, I'm like, Okay, I 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:19.120 can get this out. And then this is completely different 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.320 because it's with my husband now, and then it's like 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:24.680 fuck it. I should I should have opened up about this, 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.680 but I just breaking that barrier to get to that 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:31.320 subject is what I struggle with. And that's maybe again 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.640 how I was raised that in my culture we don't 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:38.600 really get so vulnerable so often, and I was raised 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.360 we don't really talk about our emotions. And I'm still 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:45.040 working on that. But I appreciate you've ben patient. That's 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.480 what your husbands are for. 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:48.000 Right. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.960 What is your like biggest impression of me? 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.040 Like? What how would you describe me? Like? What's your 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:57.280 What have you learned? 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.720 I think that you are you have a big heart, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.920 and that's one of the things that I require for 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:07.360 when I when I did this, when I when I 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:13.720 did this project, when I started. Sometimes I feel that 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:20.679 you should think less and feel more and to see 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:26.560 the you know, the sun behind the storm. I feel 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.679 that you just see the storm. 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:38.400 Uh fair, I agree. And your musical taste is not good? 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:45.280 Oh yeah, I had that's been a struggle in the character, yes, but. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:51.679 Yeah, heavy metal, heavy metal I mean it's a road trip. 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.040 We should listen to something more like road Tree vibes. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.760 Okay, So my biggest concern going in to this project 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.040 was going to be that I either already knew the 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:07.000 groom I would be match with, or worse, I'd already 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.800 had sex with them and ghosted them. And I said 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.040 that only because I knew Pedro was looking for somebody 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.600 in Sydney and preferably like my you know, the Eastern Suburbs, 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.600 and I've lived the Eastern Suburbs a few years, and 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.520 I'm not gonna lie. As we've spoken about, I've been 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:24.920 through sad periods of my life where maybe I've turned 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:29.040 to sex with random people, and I've fallen into cycles 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.560 of just doing that again and again and again. 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.880 So then going into this, I was just like, fuck, 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:36.680 I hope I've not. 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.600 Had sex with him and then like ghosted him or 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.200 just ignored him, which like I have done before, and 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.240 like I hate that I've done that, but I was 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.240 not in a good place. And then people have done 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.600 it to me and that's hurt me. But we've never met, 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.200 and then that's what we have to help people. This 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.640 bit that we discovered it was maybe when we arrived 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:03.880 at the honeymoon, I REALI I had seen you on 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:08.560 social media before, because I remember there's maybe months ago. 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.720 I don't remember a few months ago in summer, there 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.080 was like I was scrolling the for you page at 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:17.320 the Instagram wheels and there was a video of you 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.360 on the beach shirtless with another guy, you know, doing 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.120 like those He was asking you questions. 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.080 I don't know because that was in Spanish. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.160 Yes, And I just remember I stopped because I looked 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.600 at that because I as a hot guy on Bondi 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.080 I lived near Bondai, and like. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.240 Thinking, because that wasn't all my best moment. 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.640 I was just when I arrived to say they and 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:37.800 I was not feeling like a Bondi guy at all. 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.960 But then I clicked onto your page on your Instagram 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.120 at the time because usually if I see someone hot 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.000 and gay in the area, I followed them hope you 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.880 get followed back and then see what happens. And then 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:55.800 I clicked on your page and I judged you, ah, 0:15:56.640 --> 0:16:03.240 because well I saw that you had an only fan's account. Yes, 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.000 and like to me, I don't care, like I have 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.560 so many friends who do that type of content and 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.520 I know that we've spoken about it off off my 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:16.680 care and like, I see how you start and that 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.000 has basically allowed you to travel and have this great 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:19.840 lifestyle where. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.480 You like you're doing that. 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.280 And I also know you're a lawyer, you own a 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.040 business back home, your own properties, like it's there's so 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.800 many facets to you and so many things you've achieved. 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:34.360 And then when I clicked on your page, I I mean, 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.440 there were some posts about you could see you've got 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.480 such a variety in your life, but I just saw 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.880 only fans of fault with this guy. He would never 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:46.720 want to go on a day, He would never want 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.440 to do fucking romantic things that we have, like we 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.440 watched the sunset holding hands like you know, these things 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:57.160 I associate with like almost like wholesome relationships. And then 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.480 I thought, well, he has only fans, so therefore he 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.080 would never want that, never do that. And then I 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.520 even thought even if I did follow it or message him, 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.760 like he would be at my league anyway, because I 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.680 just thought, like, look at you. And then so I did, 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:16.439 like I did you and then it's been interesting getting 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:20.119 to know you because all those things I believed at 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.240 the start, like you'd never be this, or that you've 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.760 proved me wrong in every single way, like you are 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:32.600 actually romantic, sweet, affectionate, caring, and like you've shown that 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:33.480 you could be. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:35.440 Like a great partner. 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:37.800 And then my first song was click on that page, 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.280 or he'd never any of these things, he just filming 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.960 himself do that. And then and again I feel bad 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:45.480 for that because I said, like, I know so many 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.280 people who do only fans like and I support sex. 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:52.119 Even the Australian Adual Industry Awards last year I was 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.959 nominated for an award for like helping empower the community 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:59.119 in the media, And then I feel bad that I 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:00.560 can do that and my work. When it comes to 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:04.280 my personal life, I saw you and just judged you. 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:08.080 No, I understand. I get this very often, and you 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.480 know I'm very open with what I do. If all 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.760 my friends and my family knows. But the thing is, 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.680 you cannot judge people just for one thing that they do. 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.040 And this is also like part of my life, as 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:26.280 you said, like I do many things in my life. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.000 Not because I do only funds means that I'm empty 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:35.480 or very vinyl. In fact, it's just another job that 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:39.119 I started after a pandemic because my main income was 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.960 my tourism company in Argentina, and of course with the pandemic, 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.919 my economy crush and my life. 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:46.439 Changed a lot. 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:51.720 So I found out this option and it's very flexible. 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.840 I can work whenever I want, you know, I just 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:59.600 need my laptop and internet. And this is also something 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:03.000 that I that I'm doing just for a few years 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:05.280 because I want to set it down. 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:09.679 It's not something that I'm expecting to do for the 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:10.520 rest of my life. 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:13.359 Yeah, And like that's the interesting thing for me because 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.679 again when I judged it, I just thought, like, you 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.639 wouldn't be someone who's looking for a partner or to 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:22.000 settle down, know anything. But you've proven me differently. And 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.320 when we speak about like your plans for the future, 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:28.440 your aspirations. You talk about businesses you want to grow, 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:30.560 things you want to achieve, and none of them, really, 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:34.080 none of them do relate to that. Like everything you're 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.480 actually so this is going to sound so stupid, but 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.959 you are so intelligent, you're so passionate about history, and 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:47.200 you know so much. And like the stereotype is only 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:49.439 finds people equal dumb or whatever you know, like. 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:50.479 Because that's all they can do. 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:54.199 And like, well, again, it's a stereotype, right, yeah, it is, 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.800 but most people don't even get the chance to look 0:19:57.920 --> 0:19:59.360 or learn beyond that stereotype. 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:07.880 And talking about judging before meeting somebody, Uh, I had 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:09.160 like a situation. 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:10.920 Situation. 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.120 Yeah, we went on holidays. 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:14.359 With my friends. 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.720 We went to Jervis Bay and one of my friends 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:18.720 was reading a book, your book. 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.000 I found out, now that was your book. 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.840 Like I asked him, like, what was the book about? 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:31.120 I was a book and he told me, I mean 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:36.280 he read. He read a few paragraphs, and I was like, thinking, 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:38.600 what's wrong with this guy? 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:44.320 In fact, I was not even like uh, I was 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:45.320 not even like. 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:53.240 I's say, uh intrigued by the by the book Because 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:59.479 of the paragraph, I was like so depressing. And now 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:03.600 I'm here and I see sometimes your dark side, but 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.000 at the same time, I see everything that you have 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:11.160 inside that bit hard. Like yesterday I thought we did 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:14.200 the wine tasting. I mean I did the wine tasting. 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:15.640 You have just a gene. 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:22.400 But also I was driving now because you don't emgin 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:23.919