1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Britney Saunders and welcome to Big Business, the 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: place where business is far from boring. And today I'm 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: recording on a wobbical land. Now, I somehow managed to 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: build an empire from the garage underneath my house, and 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm here to share it all with you, from the winds, 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: the mistakes, the challenging times, and the funny moments in between. So, 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: whether you're in business already, perhaps you're not in the 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: game at all, Maybe you're just looking for some inspo, 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: or you simply just want to hear the tea, this 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: is the podcast for you. Coming up on today's episode, 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to answer a very juicy question that has 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: come in through our Big Business podcast DMS, and it 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: is this. I don't know who it's from because Producer 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: X like message it to me like copy and paste, 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: But this is the question. Can you talk about your 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: relationship with April? I know she's Fates brand exec, but 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: on social media it appears you guys are besties. I 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: know you have pre podcasts talking about how you have 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: professional boundaries in place with staff, so I'm wondering how 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: you navigate that when you and April appear to be 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: so close. Is it all just for social media? Do 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: other staff feel left out? I'd love to know out 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: of genuine curiosity. Big love to you both. Well, thanks 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: to whoever sent this in. Sorry I don't have your name. 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: And this is definitely a great. 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: Couple of questions for me to answer and a great 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: topic to talk about. But I do want to say 28 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: as well, it's almost and I know this is like 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: unrelatable to say, but it being in my position, it 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: feels so dystopian. 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is it's and I've 32 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: said this. 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: A lot on the pod already, but being someone that 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: has come from you know, my youtubing days and the 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: influencing days and kind of giving that whole life out 36 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: on social media and you know, all my late teens 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: and early twenties being on socials to then you know, 38 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: have gradually over time kind of stepped more into what 39 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: I do now. It's it feels dystopian. It's dystopian in 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: a way to have gone from you know, having this 41 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: public profile and living out my life as an influencer 42 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: and you know, being known as Britney Lee Saunders to 43 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: then you know, starting my business and it you know, 44 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: fast forwarding to where we are now, so far into 45 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: our journey with Fate, and it's quite a big, established, 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: structured business and just managing those two things side by side. 47 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Where As you know now, I don't see myself as 48 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: an influencer or anything like that, and maybe some people 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: still do, because you know, I still post online and 50 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, but also being the CEO 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: of a company and being people's and leader and manager. 52 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: I'm being completely honest, like I think I've struggled with 53 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: that a lot over the years, balancing those two things, 54 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: and to give you an example, it's balancing all the 55 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: more difficult parts of my role that any boss, leader, manager, CEO, 56 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: team leader, whatever it may be, you know, dealing with 57 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: things that aren't so fun in those kinds of roles, 58 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: like performance meetings, having to sit down with someone and 59 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: talk about something that's not that nice. And then the 60 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: thing that I guess I kind of struggle with a 61 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: bit is balancing that and then balancing the more fun 62 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: content side of my life. You know, where I'm maybe 63 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: having a stressful day at work, or I've got to 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: have a meeting that's maybe going to upset someone for 65 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: whatever reason, or a tough conversation and then going home 66 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: and jumping on my stories and being happy. And I 67 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: think I've always been really mindful of that from an 68 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: internal perspective of, you know, if I'm having some sort 69 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: of conversation at work or I've had to put my 70 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: foot down with something, and then I go home and 71 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: at night AG and I laughing on our stories. I've 72 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: always kind of been mindful of how that would be 73 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: perceived by the people that I'm dealing with internally, and 74 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that's ever going. 75 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: To go away. 76 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: I obviously have a really unique position that I'm in, 77 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: and this doesn't apply just to me. Any founder of 78 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: a business who has that online following and that history 79 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: of being online or a public profile. I'm sure those 80 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: people feel the same. Where it's a juggling act where 81 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: you know you want to be taken seriously in your 82 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: role as a boss, as a business owner, but then 83 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: you have this extra element of having this online persona 84 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: and like, as we all know, social media is a 85 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: highlight reel. It's all the fun stuff, and I personally 86 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: really struggle with that, Like just I feel like Hannah Montana, 87 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: like I'm living in two different worlds. And it's just 88 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: something that I'm constantly always trying to balance perfectly. Let's 89 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: just cut to the chase and actually get into answering 90 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: the questions. So can you talk about your relationship with April. 91 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: I know she's Fate's brand exec, but on social media 92 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: it appears you guys are besties. I know you have 93 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: previous podcasts talking about how you have professional boundaries in 94 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: place with staff, so I'm wondering how you navigate that 95 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: when you and April appear to be so close. This 96 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: is great, and absolutely I think about this all the 97 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: time and I'm mindful of it. And if you haven't 98 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: had a chance to listen to any of my previous episodes, 99 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: I've probably mentioned it at least ten times over the 100 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: last couple of years. 101 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: But one massive lesson that I've learned. 102 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: For myself over the years, and you know, from the 103 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: early days of Fate, is that it's so important not 104 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: only just for me, but all managers and leaders and 105 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: business owners to have professional boundaries in place. And I 106 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: speak from experience because in the early days of Fate, 107 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: as you all know, like when anyone starts a business, 108 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: and especially like me eight years ago, I wasn't taking 109 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: fate seriously. I wasn't taking myself seriously. So I didn't 110 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: go into this with some grand business plan. Faith for 111 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: me was quite literally just a yep, I'm going to 112 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: give this a go. It was when I was in 113 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: my influencer era. I had no idea what I was doing. 114 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: I had attempted a million other little businesses. This just 115 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: turned out to be the one that stuck and actually 116 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: turned into a proper company. And back then, because I 117 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: was just having fun, I went right ahead and did 118 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: what a lot of people do in the early days 119 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: of their business. I hired my friends. I hired my 120 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: friends cousins, I hired my family members. 121 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: And I shot myself in the foot by doing so. 122 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: And when I say that, I don't mean it in 123 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: a way where I'm like, I wish I didn't do that, 124 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: because I think that's what business is all about. It's 125 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: about doing things one way and then learning like that's growth, right. 126 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: Business is nothing but making maybe the wrong decisions and 127 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: learning better for next time. And as fate grew and 128 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: became I guess a little bit more serious over business. 129 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: I learned many many years ago, Holy crap, Number one, 130 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: I need to have boundaries in place between me and 131 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: my staff. It can't be just all fun and games. Sure, 132 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: it's great for it to be fun and games, but 133 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: when push comes to shove and you maybe have to 134 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: sit someone down for that little chat if they've done 135 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: something wrong, that's when the lines can become completely blurred and. 136 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: It's like, how can you be talking to me this way? 137 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: We are friends. 138 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: And so when I say on my podcast, you know, like, 139 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: I have boundaries in place and I'm not quote unquote 140 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: friends with any of my staff, I don't want people 141 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: to take that in the wrong way and think, oh, 142 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: she fucking hates her staff and she's not friends with 143 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: them or anything like that. At work, in the and 144 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: in the warehouse, we have so much fun every single day, 145 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: and I would love to be besties with everyone at work. 146 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: I don't want people to think that by me saying 147 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm not friends with anyone and I've got boundaries that 148 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm just like some cold hearted bitch going into the 149 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: office every day and not talking to anyone and not 150 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: knowing anything about them. Like I know a lot about 151 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: my team members and their partners and their lives, and 152 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: we chat and we have fun and we have banter, 153 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: we get together, we do work drinks. Sometimes we'll go 154 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: to the pub after work. But I guess, just in 155 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: contrast to those really early days of Fate, it is 156 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: a lot different now in terms of I just have 157 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: in my mind, I guess a line that I draw 158 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: in the sand in terms of how close I am 159 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: with my team members. We work together every day, we 160 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: do events together, we do photo shoots together. But we 161 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: go home at the end of the day, and that's 162 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: where the relationship and friendship ends. 163 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,359 Speaker 2: Of course, if we're having a work. 164 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: Drinks or a Christmas party or whatever, then we'll be 165 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: hanging out outside of work. But when everyone clocks off 166 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: at whatever time in the afternoon, it's not four o'clock 167 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: anymore because we're doing flexible working hours this year, but 168 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: you'll know, like we've always done eight till four, But 169 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: when everyone clocks off for the day, that's where the 170 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: relationship ends. And I know that sounds really bad, but 171 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't want, I guess, my staff to be going 172 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: home and then talking to me all night, which back 173 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: in the day it was that way, like with the 174 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: people that I had working for me in the early 175 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: days of Fate and that's because we were all friends, 176 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: you know, before I had them working for me, So 177 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: the relationship would continue outside. 178 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: We'd be talking all night, we'd be. 179 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: Going over to each other's houses, you know, and it 180 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: was super personal and I have no regrets about that. 181 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: But I don't operate in that way now. And that's 182 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: for the benefit of ever every single person, not just 183 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: me in my life to have that boundary. And I 184 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: guess small degree of separation, but it's because I don't 185 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: want my staff to be personally intertwined with me, but 186 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: then have to also see me as the person that 187 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: owns the company that they work at, if you know 188 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: what I mean. 189 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: Now on to April. 190 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: She has worked at Fate for over five years and 191 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: we actually did an episode together quite a while ago. Now, 192 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: maybe I'll have to get her back on to retell 193 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: the story of how she started at Fate. But April 194 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: has been with us for a really long time. I 195 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: feel like she's been with us since the beginning of 196 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: Fate because the first couple of years, as anyone would know, 197 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: the first couple of years in business is a trial period. 198 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: I feel like when April came on board and a 199 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: few others that have still been with us since then. 200 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: I feel like that was the start of fate and 201 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: April came on board. I did not know her prior 202 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: to her coming to work with us. She actually applied 203 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: for a role of social media assistant back in the 204 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: day five years ago. It was the first time that 205 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: I was ever hiring anyone to come and help with 206 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: socials because for those first few years I had my 207 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: influence a background, so I was just running the socials 208 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: and posting to Instagram. But back in the day, April 209 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: applied on SEEK, sent through her resume and cover letter. 210 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: I'll actually have to go and dig that out. I 211 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: wonder if it's still in there. 212 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if Seek holds job adds from that 213 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: long ago. That would be good though, to fish out 214 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: her application. And she came in and maybe we interviewed, 215 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: you know, six people back then, and April actually didn't 216 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: end up getting that job, and we laugh about it 217 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: all the time. She got absolutely burnt, but she made 218 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: it all the way through and it was down to 219 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: her and Kim, who's still with us today as well. 220 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: And Kim ended up getting the role. But as always, 221 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: when we interview someone that we really like at Fate. 222 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: We'll always say to them, like, we'll keep your resume 223 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: and details on file. 224 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: If anything else. 225 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: Pops up, we'll be sure to let you know. And 226 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: mind you this was when Fate was tiny, like there 227 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: was a few of us working at Fate and a 228 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: couple of weeks after Kim had started, and then this 229 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: was when Aj also came into the company as well, 230 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: and Aj was like managing and running the tiny warehouse. 231 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: And I remember AJ going, I'm getting a bit busy, 232 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: Like I think we could do with a helper in 233 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: the warehouse. And so I thought of April, and I said, 234 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: let's just give her a call. So I like had 235 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: my tail in between my legs and gave her a call, 236 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: like hey, remember me, like I let you down a 237 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. But I remember her saying in 238 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: her interview that she just really wanted to work at Fate. 239 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: So I called her and said, hey. 240 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: I know you didn't get the job that you wanted, 241 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: but you know, AJ actually need some help in the warehouse. 242 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: Would you like to come and work in the warehouse? 243 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: And there was just not even a second of doubt 244 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: or hesitation. She said absolutely, And I was like, okay, great. 245 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: So April came on board all those years ago in 246 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: the warehouse, it might have even been hot time. I 247 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: can't remember, a couple of days a week, and before 248 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: we knew it, she was full time, and pretty quickly 249 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: she started picking up doing other jobs. She was in 250 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: the warehouse with AJ and then she learned how to 251 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: do our customer service, so she was kind of across, 252 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: you know, working in the warehouse and doing customer service. 253 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: Did that for a couple of months, packing orders in 254 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: the warehouse, doing returns, and then over the past five years, 255 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: April has gradually stepped through almost every area of our 256 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: business warehouse, customer service, social media assistant, social media coordinator. 257 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: She then did a stint in our PR side of 258 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: the business, and that was when we decided, oh, maybe 259 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: we should do some influencer marketing. And this is years 260 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: into our business journey, because this is when Fate is 261 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: small and we're still learning the ropes. And then after 262 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: she did our PR and influencer stuff, she was given 263 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: the opportunity and also earned it to come and work 264 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: directly with me across Fate and also all of my 265 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: things that I do myself outside of Fate because we 266 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: kind of got like two things going on here, Like 267 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: this podcast isn't really Fate, it's more my stuff. And 268 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: so that was a couple of years ago. Now I 269 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: think maybe two or three years ago that April stepped 270 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: into the role of brand executive and she's basically, if 271 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: you want to put it in other words, she's my 272 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: professional sidekick. She is like another part of my brain 273 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: or my second brain that is just right there by 274 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: my side. She knows everything. It's great because she has 275 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: the experience of working basically through every role in the 276 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: office at FATE and now she works by my side. 277 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,479 Speaker 1: And just to give you a little bit of context 278 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: into like what a day would look like for April, No, 279 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: two days are the same look one could one week 280 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: could be going to China, the next week we're at 281 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: a photo shoot. But April works evenly across Fate and 282 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: all things Glazy as well as me. So with Fate, 283 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: she's more so across large scale things like if we're 284 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: planning a big event, she'll be working with the marketing 285 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: team on that. If we're planning a big campaign photo shoot, 286 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: she'll be across that and just all things Fate marketing, 287 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: and then with me she's also managing my inbox, managing 288 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: my calendar. If I'm ever going to do a talk, 289 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: whether it's a Ted talk or whatever it may be, 290 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: She'll be the one, you know, chatting with whoever is 291 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: contacting us about that, and then as well as that 292 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: coming with me if I'm ever going somewhere for work. 293 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: Last year, for example, we did our book tour, so 294 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: April organized the entire book tour, booked in all the flights, 295 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: came around with me, did all the content. And I 296 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: think it's because you know, she's got that experience of 297 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: like working directly in our social media team at Fate, 298 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: that she's obviously over the years picked up all those 299 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: great skills of being able to film. So she's filming 300 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: a lot of my content, she's editing a lot of 301 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: my content. She's really just it's like a professional all rounder. 302 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: And that's a little bit of an overview of her 303 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: role in terms of April being in all of our 304 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: content that you'll see across Instagram and TikTok. That's just 305 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: something that we have like naturally and organically done over 306 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: the years. 307 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: I don't even know when we started it. 308 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: I think she's been doing it since basically the beginning, 309 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: like just appearing in our content. But I definitely think 310 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: over the last maybe two years, we've been making more 311 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: and more content together. It was never part of April's 312 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: role to feature in our content. It's just kind of 313 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: something that we've always thought was fun. And I think 314 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: the more that April has appeared in our content and 315 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: everyone's been getting to know her, everyone's been really loving it. 316 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: And I think people would be surprised to hear that 317 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: April has actually. 318 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: Been with us for over five years, because I don't know. 319 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: I think they would think maybe she's like newer or something, 320 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: but she's basically a piece of furniture at Fate. 321 00:16:59,360 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: Now. 322 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: Give even April's job working directly with me, and she's 323 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: the only one person in the company at this stage 324 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: that directly works with me, like everyone else in our company. 325 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: In our office will have a manager that sits I 326 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: don't like to say that in between, but you know 327 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: what I mean that there will be a manager above 328 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: a team, and then I sit above that manager, if 329 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Whereas April works and reports 330 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: directly to me, I do all of April's performance reviews, 331 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So given the fact that 332 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: she works so closely to me, it's a given that 333 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: we are going to have a bit different of a relationship. 334 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: We're working together five days a week, we're traveling around together. 335 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: It's just the way that it is. 336 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: And because of that, of course we're going to have 337 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: a naturally closer relationship and a bit of a different dynamic. Now, 338 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: I notice one of your comments or questions is do 339 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: other staff feel left out? I would like to think 340 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: that everyone that we have working at Fate, especially like 341 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: within our office and marketing team, they're all super mature 342 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: and amazing at what they do, So I don't think 343 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: that there would ever be like a. 344 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: I feel left out. 345 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: I definitely think maybe, you know, people might think, damn, 346 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: that looks really fun, like you know, when we go 347 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: to China or traveling around to all of our stores. 348 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: I definitely think maybe people would go, oh, bumma, that 349 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: looks so much fun. But I don't think it would 350 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: ever be in a way of someone being like, oh, 351 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: I'm being excluded from that, or I can't believe I 352 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: didn't get invited on that, just because no one else's 353 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: role would ever fall into that category of coming to 354 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: do a book tour with me or coming to watch 355 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: one of my keynote speeches, because their roles don't have 356 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: anything to do with the organization of that. And I 357 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: think everyone would also understand that, of course April's going 358 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: to go to these things because that's directly linked to 359 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: her role. Whenever we're going somewhere, the chances are she's 360 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: organized the whole thing, So of course it makes sense. 361 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: Another question in your message, is it all just. 362 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: For social media? I mean, if you want to think. 363 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: Of it, like quite literally everything that we post on 364 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: social media is for social media, you know, like every 365 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: time we're whipping out our phone to film something, we're 366 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: intentionally doing that for social media. But maybe you mean 367 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: more so in terms of April and I are just 368 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: friends on camera for the sake of the content, and 369 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: for that, I would say no, Like what you see 370 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: in our videos us having banter, having banter with AJ, 371 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: that's all very much real. We definitely aren't putting on 372 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: a relationship for social media. We've worked together for so long, 373 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: so the relationship and friendship that you see in our 374 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: content is very much real. In saying all of this, 375 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: whilst April and I obviously have a bit of a 376 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: different relationship, and that's just purely based on the fact 377 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: that we directly work together. There definitely still is a 378 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: mutual respect for one another in terms of work and yes, 379 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: whilst on social media it looks like all we do 380 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: is have fun, especially after all the China content. You know, 381 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: we are professional together and respect one another in that 382 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: type of way. You just obviously wouldn't see that sort 383 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: of stuff on social media. But we still do all 384 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: the regular things that an employer and employee do. We 385 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: do performance reviews, we do goal setting. At the start 386 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: of the year this year when everyone came back to work, 387 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: we sat down, had a big catch up at the 388 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: start of the year, like a one on one and 389 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: I set up all these questionnaires at the start of 390 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 1: the year, which was awesome, and April went away and 391 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: filled it all out, like I made questionnaires for like 392 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: different teams. So I made April a questionnaire kind of 393 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: just to reflect on I guess the end of twenty 394 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: twenty five and goals moving into twenty twenty six, and 395 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: we can sit down and kind of you know, go 396 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: through April filling out a workplace questionnaire and do that 397 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: in a like professional way. But I can understand that 398 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: if you're only seeing the fun part of our friendship 399 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: on social media, it can look like, oh my god, 400 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: they're just best friends and they just fuck around. How 401 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: could they ever be serious? But we've worked together long enough, 402 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: and April understands my role and what I do in 403 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: the business, and I understand April's role in the business 404 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: and her goals and what she wants to work on. 405 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: That I think we just have that respect between one another. 406 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: And April will sometimes say, because we get asked this 407 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: all the time, like when we're with people, like how 408 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: do you work together? 409 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: How does this all work? 410 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: And April has said a few times like I would 411 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: hate to get on Britney's bad side. So she respects 412 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: me enough to know that, you know, if something was 413 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: to ever go wrong or whatever, that I would still 414 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: have that sit down with her and be like, look, 415 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: you're fucked up with this thing. 416 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 2: You're in a bit of trouble. 417 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's a little bit about our friendship and relationship. 418 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: And I guess, just to circle back to what I 419 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: was talking about at the start, Yes, I have professional 420 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: boundaries in place with all of my team that I 421 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: have working at Fate yes, April's is going to look 422 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: that little bit differently, and that's just purely down to 423 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: the fact that her role is so different to everyone else's. 424 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone's role at Fate is different to one another, 425 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: but with April in particular, she's literally my sidekick. So 426 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: of course we're going to have that little bit of 427 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: a different dynamic. But it's up to both of us 428 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: and especially me at the end of the day, to 429 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: still have boundaries. And you know, I'm not going to 430 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: be calling up April at eight o'clock at night to 431 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, Aja's a fucking dickhead. 432 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: We just had a big fight and he's stormed out. 433 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: Not that that happens between aj and I, but you know, 434 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: there still is that separation between April and I. And 435 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: it's not to be like in a bitchy way or whatever. 436 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: It's just, you know, she has a life outside of 437 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: her job. Even though she loves her job and loves 438 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: Fate and says she's going to be here until the 439 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: day that she dies, I still want her to go 440 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: home and forget about work and not think about it 441 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: until the next day kind of thing. 442 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: So I'm just seeing if there's anything else that you've said. 443 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: You're wondering how we navigate that when we appear to 444 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: be so close. I think at the end of the day, 445 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: it just comes down to having mutual respect for one 446 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: another and boundaries with one another. And yeah, we make 447 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: a lot of videos together. But at the same time, 448 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, if April, you know, came on the China 449 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: trip with me and said one afternoon, I don't really 450 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: feel like going out and doing any food tasting videos, 451 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's so fine, Like there's absolutely no pressure. 452 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: But she loves it, so of course she'll get amongst 453 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: the videos and eat all the food. We never want 454 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: to eat any food ever again after that trip because 455 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: we ate so much. 456 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: But thank you so much for sending through this question. 457 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: I hope this episode. 458 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: Has answered it, and I can understand why people would 459 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: be curious about it. It's a really interesting predicament for 460 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: me to navigate. Like I said at the start of 461 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: this episode, you know, it is so weird to be 462 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: running a company and to be a CEO and a 463 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: boss and a leader and a manager, but to also 464 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: have I guess, people on social media watching my life 465 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: and my job kind of from the outside and juggling 466 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: those two things has always been interesting for me. But 467 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: I hope this answers your curious questions. There's no such 468 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: thing as a bad question. And I actually love when 469 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: people send us dms on Big Business on Instagram because 470 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: it gives me great topics for the episodes. 471 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: But that's all for today's episode. 472 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: If you haven't already, please feel free to rate Big 473 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 1: Business five stars and nothing less and just a reminder. 474 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: I come out with two episodes a week. 475 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: Here. 476 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: We've got these main. 477 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: Episodes which are a bit more long, a bit more detailed, 478 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: and then we have a bonus every week as well. 479 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: But that's about it. 480 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: This is actually like my first proper record that I've 481 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: done in ages because we've had a lot up our 482 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: sleeves and. 483 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, do I finish with the tip of the week. Okay, 484 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to keep the tip of the week going 485 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: this year. My tip of the week is set boundaries. 486 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: If you're a business owner, if I could go back 487 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: and do my time over again, I would one hundred 488 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: percent have some more boundaries in place between myself and 489 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: my staff. You can be friends, you can get along 490 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: at work, you can have a good time but it 491 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: honestly benefits everyone to have you know, that degree of 492 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: separation and those boundaries between yourself and your team in 493 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: the workplace literally only benefits everyone. 494 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: So that's my tip of the week. 495 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: And make sure to chase after your dreams as if 496 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: they owe you money.