Speaker 1: I want the fairy tale, I want the prince charming.
Speaker 2: She How do I put this? He isn't a fan
Speaker 2: of my kissing style.
Speaker 1: With the boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. He's
Speaker 1: in a trash bin. He's non recyclable catching them mu.
Speaker 2: I love being love, I love love. On today's episode
Speaker 2: of Where's Your Head At, we are discussing first kisses,
Speaker 2: kissing styles, and how we know if we are a
Speaker 2: good kisser.
Speaker 3: Or not, and how Matt has been told he's not
Speaker 3: the bye Why on'tly?
Speaker 1: Anyway?
Speaker 3: Stay tuned to hear how to make a lasting impression
Speaker 3: with your lips. Where's Your Head At is a podcast
Speaker 3: that talks all things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows,
Speaker 3: and everything in between.
Speaker 2: This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip,
Speaker 2: intimate details, advice, and much more. All right, welcome back everyone,
Speaker 2: I know, how are we?
Speaker 3: It's actually Michael's birthday today, so I just want to
Speaker 3: start this episode by giving him a little shout out.
Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Michael, Hope you have an amazing thirty fourth
Speaker 3: birthday and I love.
Speaker 1: You a lot.
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, mate. What have you got him for his birthday? Then?
Speaker 3: I got him some sneakers and a couple of other
Speaker 3: little bits and pieces as well, and I'm going to
Speaker 3: take him out tomorrow night actually to do a little
Speaker 3: paint and wine night, so that'd be fun.
Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, yeah, I've heard about them. They seem pretty cute.
Speaker 2: But the more you drink, the less you're painting. It's good.
Speaker 2: But surprisingly people when they come back, their paintings are
Speaker 2: actually good. So I'll be curious to see yours.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, me and Michael paint in the living room together
Speaker 3: like all the time. It's like our little pastime thing
Speaker 3: that we used to do in Lockdown, and we've literally
Speaker 3: just like pour wine and like paint random pictures. But
Speaker 3: with this little I think it's called like Picasso and
Speaker 3: paint or something I can't remember.
Speaker 1: But anyway, you go in there and.
Speaker 3: They literally take you step by step through how to
Speaker 3: do it, so everyone comes up with like good picture,
Speaker 3: pretty decent painting.
Speaker 2: Yeah nice. Speaking of birthdays, yea, it is our first
Speaker 2: birthday is slowly creeping up, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It is. I'm so excited.
Speaker 3: So like, if you have not heard this yet, Matt
Speaker 3: and I are throwing where's your head? At family a
Speaker 3: birthday party to celebrate not only our first birthday but
Speaker 3: also over a million listens.
Speaker 2: And tickets are selling fast, guys, so make sure you
Speaker 2: get onto it. We've got limited tickets, so if you
Speaker 2: want to come, make sure you hit that link in
Speaker 2: one of our bios and buy it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's special guests, there's prizes, there's gonna be fun games,
Speaker 3: and then we're going to drink.
Speaker 1: With you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we mentioned that it's not just a live show,
Speaker 2: we will be getting pissed with you afterwards.
Speaker 3: It's a birthday party. Like, it's a definite birthday party.
Speaker 3: There will be cake and there will be a lot
Speaker 3: of fun.
Speaker 2: So who knows you might kiss one of us. So
Speaker 2: let's segment to this. Looking for a perfect segue into kissing.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they aren't there, but I tried to find it.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it, okay, Matt.
Speaker 3: So you in previous podcasts have spoken to me and
Speaker 3: our audience about the fact that Jen said you weren't
Speaker 3: a great kisser.
Speaker 1: Is that right? Have I got that right?
Speaker 2: Yes? So, very early on in jeninized relationship, we hit
Speaker 2: a little speed bump. Should I say that era kissing
Speaker 2: styles weren't linking up. So she'd had what twenty eight years,
Speaker 2: I'd had twenty seven years kissing.
Speaker 1: The excuses have started.
Speaker 2: Somewhere along the line. We had not met someone with
Speaker 2: the same style as each other.
Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: So, like, what what is this style that you guys
Speaker 3: talk of that it hasn't like matched?
Speaker 2: Well, I got some notes here. She sent me a
Speaker 2: couple of messages.
Speaker 3: So so what you've asked her? What wasn't compatible kissing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said, this is what she said. Our lips
Speaker 2: would not meet up properly. So apparently she was trying
Speaker 2: to take top, but I was trying to take top.
Speaker 2: You know, when your lips sick because they don't sit perfectly.
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure.
Speaker 2: And ours weren't. She said, my tongue didn't come out enough.
Speaker 2: I didn't use enough tongue.
Speaker 3: So what you were just like poking your tongue out
Speaker 3: like a tiny bit into her mouth.
Speaker 2: I don't really I don't use tongue on first kisses, really, really, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's more like a movie kiss I do.
Speaker 3: I definitely use tongue on first kiss like, not like
Speaker 3: I'm not putting my tongue down someone's throat.
Speaker 1: But I'm definitely usually with your tongue.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then but she did say we're in sync now
Speaker 2: and she loves kissing me. Oh, she said, I'm also
Speaker 2: slow at kissing, and she's reminded about this every time
Speaker 2: she listens to the intro. I used to be slow.
Speaker 2: Well maybe I just know I like to be actually
Speaker 2: romantic with my kisses.
Speaker 3: You kiss, I think it's fun to change it up,
Speaker 3: Like it's fun to do like this, really like fast,
Speaker 3: like passionate, like sexy, like rip your clothes off type
Speaker 3: vibe kiss.
Speaker 1: But then it's also cute to do like a cute, romantic, slow, beautiful,
Speaker 1: loving kiss.
Speaker 2: So I think I was feeling the bit on that
Speaker 2: first kiss, like if it's so, I didn't think the
Speaker 2: vibes so they had to rip anyone's clothes off in
Speaker 2: my kitchen, I thought, while we're making it was hour
Speaker 2: while everyone else is in the other room. So I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just went with the slow, romantic first kiss, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well when did you have your first kiss? That?
Speaker 2: I think I would have been maybe fourteen, So.
Speaker 3: The same year you lost your virginity, Jerry, I think
Speaker 3: it's the same girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you lost everything to her.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think. I think it was. I mean,
Speaker 2: you was a kiss kids on the like your friends
Speaker 2: on the Yeah, when you're the same age, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, like a primary school. But that's not
Speaker 2: a first kiss. That's just two kids going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, funny story.
Speaker 2: Actually, so is this your first kiss? You made first.
Speaker 3: Kiss like that? Like, yeah, well no, I didn't make
Speaker 3: out with someone. So I had a boyfriend, like my
Speaker 3: first boyfriend when I was in New seven and he
Speaker 3: was a new six bit of a cigar back in
Speaker 3: my day.
Speaker 2: How does that work?
Speaker 1: He was a new six when I was in new school,
Speaker 1: same school. Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, yep. So anyway he
Speaker 1: was my boyfriend.
Speaker 3: We'd like hold hands and like one day we just
Speaker 3: like did a little kiss on the lips, like a little.
Speaker 1: That was it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Like a year ago, I was in Torque and
Speaker 3: I was at this pub. I was like a bit
Speaker 3: drunk with my friends and he was there so random.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, this guy who I
Speaker 3: dated dated, like not actually dated. He was like my
Speaker 3: fake boyfriend when I was in New seven. Was there anyway?
Speaker 3: Then his girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Came up to me.
Speaker 3: And was like, hey, I just wanted to introduce myself
Speaker 3: your so and so's X.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know if we'd classify
Speaker 1: me as an ex?
Speaker 2: Would you classify him as X? Like?
Speaker 3: No, Like I would classify my first serious boyfriend who
Speaker 3: I had sex with as my first boyfriend. He yes,
Speaker 3: technically we were a boyfriend and girlfriend. But for his
Speaker 3: then like now girlfriend to refer to me as his ex,
Speaker 3: like she was treating me like I was like like
Speaker 3: a threat or something, and I was like, babe, like
Speaker 3: we pecked on the lips, like, I'm no threat over here.
Speaker 2: Do you think that's his claim? His little claim to
Speaker 2: fame when he saw Yeah, he's like, oh, that's my
Speaker 2: ex over there.
Speaker 3: No, it's weird, Like would you classify an ex to
Speaker 3: someone you've had sex with or would you classify someone
Speaker 3: who you've done a little peck on the lips with?
Speaker 2: Classify an ex as I wouldn't classify my first kiss
Speaker 2: in that as an ex. No, we're too.
Speaker 1: Young, Yeah, you're too young.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that. I say, from probably eighteen, so
Speaker 2: that would be when they start being a.
Speaker 3: Bit more serious, serious, like they're actually a proper relationship.
Speaker 1: Like me and him dated for like eight days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you dated on the that's not that's.
Speaker 3: Not an ex but yeah, I guess like after that
Speaker 3: little peck, My first kiss was at the end of
Speaker 3: year nine, my first makeout. Yeah, and I was quite late,
Speaker 3: like a lot of my friends had already kissed someone
Speaker 3: and like obviously didn't classify my little peck on the
Speaker 3: lips as a proper kiss.
Speaker 1: So that was like my first makeout. Time to kiss.
Speaker 1: So I was at a party.
Speaker 3: It was a Fluoro party and he yeah, They're like,
Speaker 3: do you know what was weird is like I hadn't
Speaker 3: kissed a boy properly before, like with tongue and like
Speaker 3: a full makeout, like I'd just seen it in the movies.
Speaker 3: And he had already had sex. So he was like
Speaker 3: very advanced. He was in the same year as me,
Speaker 3: but he was like way advanced than I was. And
Speaker 3: I remember we kissed in the bathroom at the party.
Speaker 2: In the bathroom, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, maybe privacy, and I think it was just
Speaker 3: like I went into the toilet like fixed my makeout.
Speaker 3: He followed me in next minute we were making out.
Speaker 2: True love story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a true tailor bronou, but I remember like
Speaker 3: it was this is literally my first kiss. And he
Speaker 3: put his hands like up my back and undid my
Speaker 3: bra like did like the full like bra undo things,
Speaker 3: and I was like shocked, beyond belief, like I was
Speaker 3: like whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: Like this is my first fucking kiss. Get your hand
Speaker 1: away from my booths so that's it.
Speaker 2: And then you were just like, no, this kiss is over,
Speaker 2: Like my.
Speaker 1: Bra was fully undone, and then he was like he
Speaker 1: was like moving the.
Speaker 3: Hand from the back around to the front, heading off,
Speaker 3: and I was like, whoa, No, this is not happening.
Speaker 2: They so good on him. He must have been an
Speaker 2: advance for in year nine to be unclipping a bra
Speaker 2: with one hand.
Speaker 3: He knew it was my first kiss, and he I
Speaker 3: think he thought we were having sex, like it was
Speaker 3: all too much. I was like, I was very like
Speaker 3: overwhelmed by that situation.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was very intense.
Speaker 2: How do you think it went as a kiss? Then?
Speaker 1: I don't think I was the best.
Speaker 2: Did you have any practice before, like on.
Speaker 3: Anything, maybe like kissing the back of my hand, practicing.
Speaker 2: Not on a pillow, not on a friend a pillow.
Speaker 1: Did you used to kiss pillows when you were younger.
Speaker 2: I mean I wouldn't like make out with it, but
Speaker 2: like I try to people. I said, all my mate
Speaker 2: to try that, like to practice.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like to be honest, like when you're young,
Speaker 3: having a first kiss is actually a really big deal
Speaker 3: in your life, Like it's a huge milestone, and like
Speaker 3: I had put like so much pressure on it. Like
Speaker 3: I remember there was a few guys who wanted to
Speaker 3: kiss me, and I was like, no, I don't want
Speaker 3: them to be my first kiss.
Speaker 2: Now. To think about how like a first like how
Speaker 2: much a kiss is now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's insignificant now, but like, yeah, my first kiss,
Speaker 3: I remember like I was trying to like move in
Speaker 3: the motion of like how they moved in the movies,
Speaker 3: and like he was trying to do something else, and
Speaker 3: like I feel like from that moment on, I definitely
Speaker 3: significantly improved. I don't know if it was him or me.
Speaker 3: It was probably me, Like I hadn't had any practice,
Speaker 3: but though there was no like motion in the ocean
Speaker 3: flowing type of vibe, it was very like stoppy study
Speaker 3: what about yours?
Speaker 1: Do you remember if yours?
Speaker 2: I actually really don't remember my first kiss.
Speaker 1: Really, it wasn't like a big deal to you.
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't that big of a deal. I think
Speaker 2: there was a lot of tongue. I'm just thinking about
Speaker 2: maybe one kiss I've had with that girl, and I
Speaker 2: think it was a lot of tongue. I don't think
Speaker 2: it was very smooth either.
Speaker 3: So maybe that's why you don't like using tongue anymore,
Speaker 3: because you're like traumatized from.
Speaker 2: The first kids, well, from the first kiss. How many
Speaker 2: kisses do you reckon you've had in your lifetime now? Different? Fuck?
Speaker 1: Thousands?
Speaker 2: Yeah, any that stand out clearly.
Speaker 1: Like good or bad?
Speaker 2: Bad or good?
Speaker 1: I remember a bad one.
Speaker 3: I remember I was like fuck, I would have to say,
Speaker 3: like maybe seventeen.
Speaker 1: And it was this guy. You probably know him, actually.
Speaker 2: You want to whisper it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So me and him were like really good
Speaker 3: friends when we first started modeling, and I had the
Speaker 3: biggest crush on him, Like he's a really handsome guy.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: I was young. I was just like this young model.
Speaker 3: He was a couple of years older than me, and
Speaker 3: me and him used to like text all the time,
Speaker 3: and like I remember once I invited him to like
Speaker 3: him to this party that I was at and he
Speaker 3: came with like two of his friends, and by then
Speaker 3: I was a good kisser, Like I already know I
Speaker 3: was a good kisser because I reckon, you know you're
Speaker 3: a good kisser when you can decipher a bad kisser
Speaker 3: because you're like, don't like.
Speaker 1: That too much tongue.
Speaker 3: Anyway, he came to the party this like good looking model,
Speaker 3: super sexy, and then we're dancing on the dance floor,
Speaker 3: probably to like you know, black eyed peas, and then
Speaker 3: he fully leaned in for a kiss, and honestly, no
Speaker 3: one has ever stuck their tongue so far down my throat.
Speaker 1: I thought I was choking.
Speaker 3: I thought I had something lodged in my tonsils because
Speaker 3: his tongue was so far down my throat. And honestly,
Speaker 3: I like had a crush on him, like the biggest crush,
Speaker 3: like one of my first major crushes. We talked like
Speaker 3: every day and after that night, like it just fully
Speaker 3: did you get the ick?
Speaker 1: I got the ick? It turned me off.
Speaker 3: I was like I stopped talking to him, like kind
Speaker 3: of like weaned him off a little bit. It was
Speaker 3: just like it can't happen, Like I can't have your
Speaker 3: tongue lodged in my tonsils.
Speaker 1: It's disgusting. I don't want to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me of my worst kiss. This girl
Speaker 2: actually now is actually I don't know if she'd listened
Speaker 2: to this, but she's she's actually been on TV since recently.
Speaker 1: Wow, I remember she was, Oh God, I'm worried.
Speaker 2: It was. I was just like laying there and I
Speaker 2: remember it was.
Speaker 1: Just like laying there in bed, yeah, and it.
Speaker 2: Just completely ruined the mood. I was just like, nah.
Speaker 1: What did she do?
Speaker 2: She wasn't like like so, she wasn't doing any lip movement.
Speaker 2: She just had a mouth like resting on my mouth
Speaker 2: and just sticking her tongue in and out like a
Speaker 2: fuck like a jackhammer. Yeah, like a jackhammer, just literally
Speaker 2: just like this in my mouth. And I was just like, oh,
Speaker 2: what have I done. I'll just stare at the ceiling,
Speaker 2: like let's start. It was just it was actually the
Speaker 2: most fucking weirdest thing I've ever experienced in my life.
Speaker 2: And that yeah did that again? Like that, like just
Speaker 2: in and out. And I was like, this is fucking weird.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about your best kiss.
Speaker 2: Oh well it's Jen.
Speaker 1: Your mind's Michael. But Jen didn't think you're a good kisser.
Speaker 2: Just starting, Like I said, we just didn't link up.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know what it was. I think
Speaker 2: it was both two people trying to take the top lip. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and now we're just fully in sync.
Speaker 1: So if someone was to ask you, like, hey, Matt,
Speaker 1: do you think you're a good kisser? What would you say?
Speaker 2: Yes, I've had constantly good reviews my whole life. You've
Speaker 2: heard firsthand from people that are close to you, how
Speaker 2: good of a kisser I am. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I did ask my friend who kissed you? And she
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, like she's a good kisser, So that's okay.
Speaker 2: I think the word was amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean I have to I know the word wasn't amazing.
Speaker 1: She said good.
Speaker 2: It was a great adjective that was to describe it.
Speaker 2: I know it was a strong one, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: was very surprised when Jane told me, I've heard it
Speaker 2: pretty much my whole life. I'm a good kisser. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it definitely hit me for six I was rattled. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was like, you don't know what you're fucking talking about.
Speaker 2: What do you mean? Have you evering told you were
Speaker 2: a bad kisser?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I reckon I'm a good kisser, even on Love Island.
Speaker 3: Like I remember there was like multiple times where watching
Speaker 3: the show back, people were like and as a ten
Speaker 3: out of ten kisser, and I was like, I do
Speaker 3: what I can.
Speaker 2: No, aren't you a loud kisser? Wasn't that the joke?
Speaker 3: There wasn't there was a thing going around that I
Speaker 3: was a loud kisser. But like when you're like fully
Speaker 3: making out passion with someone in bed, like what do
Speaker 3: you want from me? You want me to like like
Speaker 3: lightly like touch someone's lips.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's actually so funny you say that. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 2: I make a noise when I kiss. I've noticed. I
Speaker 2: go like, not like that makes it sad worse than
Speaker 2: it is. I got, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: It's so weird, But it's not if you're actually like
Speaker 2: doing it, like and I'm kissing another like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I do that as well. But they were taking the
Speaker 2: piss out of you because you were like it was
Speaker 2: really loud.
Speaker 1: You know what they were doing. The producers have already
Speaker 1: told me they were literally turning up our mics.
Speaker 3: They were turning up me and Josh's mics and making
Speaker 3: it sound louder than it was, and then they got
Speaker 3: like the guy who I ditched, he was like all
Speaker 3: salty because I ditched him, and he was like they're
Speaker 3: so loud at kissing blah bla blah, and I was like,
Speaker 3: you know what.
Speaker 1: We can't take.
Speaker 2: Don't take away from the fact that it catch me
Speaker 2: up all night like this, and.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you don't believe me that I'm
Speaker 3: a good kisser, I feel free to ask Michael.
Speaker 2: All right, you know what, I'm not going to text him.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give him a buzz. Let's see you're
Speaker 2: going to call him. Yeah, I'll give him a buzz.
Speaker 2: Let's see what Michael has to say for himself. Hey, mate,
Speaker 2: not much happy birthday, thank you. I thought i'd give
Speaker 2: you a nice happy birthday call. Appreciated, but while I've
Speaker 2: got you here, sorry to do this. You're on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Hey, Michael.
Speaker 4: I was wondering now because I was sure that in
Speaker 4: a studio right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, You're like, why the she ignoring me and Matt's
Speaker 2: calling me. I just want to know if you had
Speaker 2: to rate Anna's kissing out of ten, what would it
Speaker 2: be a nine?
Speaker 4: I mean, like it's a ten, Like it's definitely a ten.
Speaker 1: Obviously he said that.
Speaker 4: She said, like she's the most amazing ki.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, I'll have to hear it
Speaker 2: from the horses and mouth himself.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie she is. She is an amazing kisser.
Speaker 4: Like obviously there was there was a bit of a
Speaker 4: gap between sort of like our first kiss and then
Speaker 4: when we sort of took our relationship to the next level,
Speaker 4: so we spent we spent like three or like makeout
Speaker 4: session star, like three or four hours and just non stop.
Speaker 1: And what did we used to say?
Speaker 4: It was Heaven's genuine Heaven?
Speaker 2: Is she loud? If she allowed kisser?
Speaker 4: Are we still talking about kissing? Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 4: like it's not like obviously if it's a public kiss
Speaker 4: like we like we keep the noise to the minimum,
Speaker 4: but like if it's a makeout sets, then like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's pretty loud.
Speaker 2: Is it like the neighbors are banging? Are the neighbors
Speaker 2: banging on the fucking wall? Time?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I was just gonna say, what did we used
Speaker 3: to say, Like we were having like kissing marathons or something.
Speaker 4: Kissing benders? That was me thing it like we just.
Speaker 2: We just get the cloth. These balls are blue.
Speaker 4: For another kissing bender tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me, me, and like we would go on kissing
Speaker 3: benders at the start of our relationship because we were
Speaker 3: like keeping it PG at the start, but we just
Speaker 3: make out constantly.
Speaker 1: It was really fun, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Heaven It sounds like torture. It was like it was good.
Speaker 2: It was good.
Speaker 1: It was good.
Speaker 4: It was It was a good kiss, like it is
Speaker 4: a good kiss. The first kiss was fireworks. I was like, geez,
Speaker 4: but it takes two to tango as well, like obviously,
Speaker 4: like you wouldn't be an amazing kisser without without you
Speaker 4: someone kissing back. Yeah, it's just so I must be
Speaker 4: good as well. I've actually got an uber that's like
Speaker 4: they're yelling at me. Someone have to go.
Speaker 1: We'll let you go. Thank you babe, Happy.
Speaker 2: Birthday, birthday mate, have a good day, Thanks very much,
Speaker 2: enjoy bye.
Speaker 1: See I'm a good kisser.
Speaker 2: Where was your first kiss?
Speaker 3: It was just like on Chapel Street, which is like
Speaker 3: a busy street with lots of pubs and clubs and whatever.
Speaker 2: Like I say, true true romance. It's a story as
Speaker 2: old as time.
Speaker 3: It was though, like our first kiss was like fireworks.
Speaker 3: It was just like super like soft and slow and
Speaker 3: like you know, when like the whole world around you stops.
Speaker 1: It was just like.
Speaker 3: One of those magical dola It was one of those magical,
Speaker 3: like beautiful moments that I will just like never forget. Okay,
Speaker 3: I want to firstly start by saying that I reckon
Speaker 3: kissing is one of the most this might sound cringe,
Speaker 3: but beautiful things that we do as humans. Like it's
Speaker 3: crazy that you can literally.
Speaker 1: Not know someone at all and then you.
Speaker 3: Guys have this really intense intimate moment where you kiss
Speaker 3: and it's like everything around you just stops, and it's
Speaker 3: kind of like you get like a little taste into
Speaker 3: their soul.
Speaker 1: I know that's a bit deep, but I genuinely like
Speaker 1: love kissing more than anything, Like genuinely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the power that a kiss holds. Like Jenny
Speaker 2: and myself, we'll not go to bed without giving each
Speaker 2: other a good night kiss. And no matter what we
Speaker 2: make sure, like sometimes we might be so tired, we're
Speaker 2: starting to doze off, and she'll turn around and we'll
Speaker 2: kiss and give each other a good night kiss, peck
Speaker 2: or it's in between, in between, it's in between, like
Speaker 2: to make out peck sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like there is a reason why as human
Speaker 3: beings we love kissing because it is a chemical reaction
Speaker 3: in your brain.
Speaker 1: Did you know that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: So it actually is when you have like a first kiss,
Speaker 3: or you kiss someone that you like, a burst of
Speaker 3: the hormone called oxytocin is released, and that's why we
Speaker 3: get so addicted to it because that's the love hormone.
Speaker 2: While you're saying that, I was thinking of one of
Speaker 2: Jen's kisses where like where like I'll be like, I'll
Speaker 2: give me a kiss, and like she won't like sort
Speaker 2: of be ready for it, or she's distracted and she
Speaker 2: goes like she keeps her eyes open. You can tell
Speaker 2: she's looking at whatever she's she's like, and she's like
Speaker 2: looking past it because I like, look at her. It's
Speaker 2: frete funny. She's like like looking at whatever it is.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 3: Like kissing is so cool because like obviously, like when
Speaker 3: you kiss someone, it can make you like, it builds
Speaker 3: up feelings of like affection and attraction to someone. It
Speaker 3: bonds you with people. So you kind of want to
Speaker 3: make sure that you are a good kisser and you're
Speaker 3: constantly improving on your kissing style, because once you you
Speaker 3: know your technique is up to scratch, you can have
Speaker 3: some really mind blowing moments. So we're gonna give you
Speaker 3: guys some hot tips to improve your kissing cell.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the first one is don't go too hard
Speaker 2: too soon, build up the intensity and let it happen naturally,
Speaker 2: so that's not going like a jackhammer.
Speaker 3: Or don't go in too hard with the lips, Like
Speaker 3: I think it's good to keep your lips really soft,
Speaker 3: and like I feel like sometimes if you have a
Speaker 3: first kiss and they come in too fast, too hard,
Speaker 3: too strong, it kind of loses the feeling of it,
Speaker 3: like be gentle, besoft, be kind, be carrying about spouting
Speaker 3: his lips to me.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, I'm just thinking about kissing her.
Speaker 2: Second one is make sure you have amazingly fresh breath.
Speaker 2: So I think that goes outside.
Speaker 1: It goes without saying.
Speaker 3: I was like so big on the chewy, like back
Speaker 3: in the day, like still am, but like I remember
Speaker 3: when I was eighteen going out, Like if I was
Speaker 3: ever at the club, I wasn't You wouldn't even see
Speaker 3: me not chewing chewing gum like I was constantly on
Speaker 3: the chewy or constantly on the mintce because I wanted
Speaker 3: to make sure my breath was impeccable.
Speaker 2: You know me with brushing my teeth.
Speaker 3: You're like OCD brushing teeth. You can tell people what
Speaker 3: you're like.
Speaker 2: I literally would brush my teeth like in the car
Speaker 2: while driving. So if you ever drive alongside me, you
Speaker 2: can see me brushing my teeth.
Speaker 3: I like, when you drive behind me, I'll literally see
Speaker 3: you like brushing your teeth.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is wrong?
Speaker 2: I have to rush stuff off my teeth. I hate
Speaker 2: coffee anything like sitting on my teeth. Do you like
Speaker 2: garlic breath? Actually like kissing garlic breath?
Speaker 3: Well, I think the thing is is I think think
Speaker 3: if you both have garlic breath, it's fine. I think
Speaker 3: the problem is is like when one person hasn't had
Speaker 3: the same like food as someone else, and then there's
Speaker 3: like different smells that can kind of be a bit
Speaker 3: like intrusive.
Speaker 2: Jen likes it if I have garlic breath and I
Speaker 2: saw a TikTok and these girls as well.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: A thing to like someone else that has garlic bread
Speaker 2: or strong breath like that really, Yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 2: personally don't.
Speaker 3: What about coffee breath because coffee breath is very aggressive.
Speaker 2: That's why I rush my teeth out to every coffee.
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I'm not feeing of coffee breath. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but maybe if you have coffee on your breath, it's
Speaker 2: not so bad. Like you said about garlic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And unless you're kissing someone, it's like not
Speaker 3: that offensive. It's just like when you're talking in close
Speaker 3: proximity to someone. I mean, there's nothing worse than if
Speaker 3: you're like talking to someone and their breath is just
Speaker 3: like overpowering and you're like whoa like? And sometimes I'll
Speaker 3: even say to people like do you want to mint
Speaker 3: some chewy? Or I'll like get out my own chewy
Speaker 3: and I'll be like, chewy, would you like?
Speaker 2: And we don't even have to say it. On the
Speaker 2: breath fucking stinks And that's it worthy.
Speaker 3: Okay, Matt, I have another tip to improve your kissing style.
Speaker 3: This one is be ready to give and receive feedback
Speaker 3: on your kissing steles. This one's huge, Like I think
Speaker 3: it's always important and like I am the feedback queen,
Speaker 3: Like if I kiss someone and I'm not vibing it.
Speaker 3: I'm the first person to let you know. Like, for instance,
Speaker 3: I was seeing this guy and our first kiss was
Speaker 3: not a first kiss. It was just like basically him
Speaker 3: just biting my lip to the point, wait what Like
Speaker 3: we were kissing, but he was just constantly biting my
Speaker 3: bottom lip to the point that like my bottom lip
Speaker 3: was actually saw and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, was it like a sexy bite or he was.
Speaker 3: Trying to make it sexy, but it was like turning
Speaker 3: me off. I was like this is gross, and like
Speaker 3: this is a first day, and like I'm unsure about why,
Speaker 3: Like my bottom lip is throbbing, not.
Speaker 1: In a good way.
Speaker 2: For that huge bruised lip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like myley was like my bottomment was fully swollen.
Speaker 3: Like it wasn't like a sexy like light bite of
Speaker 3: the lip. It was like he was like biting down
Speaker 3: on me to the point where I was like, stop
Speaker 3: biting my lips.
Speaker 1: I'm like, please stop biting on my lip. It's not
Speaker 1: a piece of chicken.
Speaker 2: How did he take it?
Speaker 1: He was still.
Speaker 3: Biting my lip, but it was like way less. So
Speaker 3: I think I genuinely think that he's never kissed someone
Speaker 3: without biting like it was like he had like ingrained
Speaker 3: it into his kissing stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just gonna be real.
Speaker 3: When I kiss a guy and I don't like the
Speaker 3: way they kiss, I literally say to them, close your eyes.
Speaker 1: Don't move, I'm gonna kiss you. Don't kiss me back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I kiss them exactly the way that
Speaker 3: I want them to kiss. And then I'm like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, that was such a good kiss. Let's do
Speaker 3: that again. But I want like you to just like
Speaker 3: slowly join it in. And then that's how I teach
Speaker 3: them how to be a.
Speaker 2: Good kiss how to do that with him. Did it work?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Also, something that's important when it comes to kissing is
Speaker 3: knowing how much tongue to use. Yes, so I reckon personally,
Speaker 3: my personal preference is that there's tongue. There's not too
Speaker 3: much tongue that it's down my throat, but there's not
Speaker 3: like not enough tongue that I'm like, where's your tongue out?
Speaker 3: Like it needs to be like the perfect amount of
Speaker 3: like tongue, and then I feel like the tongues have
Speaker 3: to kind of like do a circular motion dance.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's what Jen called me out on just
Speaker 2: so I need to do enough tongue. But I don't
Speaker 2: feel like I tongue on the first kiss.
Speaker 1: Why not? It's so romantic and hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like it comes in like I don't know.
Speaker 1: So what you just do like an open mouth kiss
Speaker 1: with no tongue to do.
Speaker 2: Like the movie Kiss. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: If you can see what Matt's doing right now, Guys,
Speaker 3: I swear you would die.
Speaker 2: You do like the movie kiss. So you go like
Speaker 2: that and then a bit of tongue will come in
Speaker 2: there naturally. Just let it flow. Feel out what the
Speaker 2: other person's doing. See if their tongue's coming out. You
Speaker 2: feel it, Oh, bit a tongue there, I'll return the tongue.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm getting secondhand embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you just feel the tongue out, yeah I do.
Speaker 2: I don't bolst the wall with tongue. Nah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like obviously you don't want to put the tongue
Speaker 3: all the way in there, but like you need still
Speaker 3: to have some tongue.
Speaker 2: Essentially, I said before that I like when Jen has
Speaker 2: her eyes open, but that's a special kind of kiss.
Speaker 2: But when you kiss in a romantic way, like close
Speaker 2: your eyes keep them closed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'd get creeped out if I kiss
Speaker 3: someone and their eyes are opened, and that has happened before,
Speaker 3: and I was like, close your eyes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine like kissing someone opening their eyes like a
Speaker 2: romantic like not a rush kiss, like a romantic makeout session, gros.
Speaker 2: And you open your eyes and they're just staring into
Speaker 2: your soul and you'll like the thing.
Speaker 3: Is as well, like you're so up close and personal
Speaker 3: with someone's face, like I don't want you to be
Speaker 3: that HD at my skin like you know what, and
Speaker 3: cross like.
Speaker 1: It's too much, it's too much.
Speaker 3: Also mix it up, like yeah, I said, like biting
Speaker 3: like that guy.
Speaker 1: Specifically was too much.
Speaker 3: But like you know, as you start to get more
Speaker 3: comfortable with each other, mix it up, change it up.
Speaker 3: But like not too hot, like a little bite of
Speaker 3: the lip or like you know, kissing of the neck
Speaker 3: or ear.
Speaker 2: Or spitting in the mouth.
Speaker 1: No, not sitting in the mouth, like that's her eye.
Speaker 1: Cross the line. Do you guys sit in the mouth?
Speaker 2: Very hot?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: So like obviously like boundaries, like some people like that.
Speaker 3: I personally don't spit in the mouth if that's something
Speaker 3: that turns you on them.
Speaker 1: Fair like you know what, like why not?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: I think as well?
Speaker 3: Like sometimes it's nice, Like I personally like I would
Speaker 3: hate to be kissed if someone was like hands by
Speaker 3: the side, like I love, like hands on the face
Speaker 3: or like around the shoulders, back, back of the head,
Speaker 3: like caressing the face, hair whatever, like push the hair,
Speaker 3: hair back, touch the chin, pull the chin up, like
Speaker 3: if they've got their head down. If the guy like
Speaker 3: pulls your chin up and then kisses you. Oh, hand
Speaker 3: on the cheek is my personal favorite. Like that is
Speaker 3: like every romantic movie starts with a guy and a
Speaker 3: girl looking into each other's eyes.
Speaker 1: Then there's a hand on the cheek from the guy, and.
Speaker 3: Then they just stare into each other's eyes and then
Speaker 3: they just have this passionate, amazing makeout and then not
Speaker 3: only are they feeling fireworks, but you, as an audience
Speaker 3: viewer of the movie, are also feeling the fireworks. Have
Speaker 3: you ever felt that in movies when people kiss, Like
Speaker 3: what about the Notebook when they have that kiss?
Speaker 2: I watched that. I refuse to watch that again. The
Speaker 2: last time I watched that, I bowled. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 2: I refuse to do it again.
Speaker 3: I watched The Notebook but I just like, this sounds
Speaker 3: really savage, but I turn it off at like the
Speaker 3: sad scene, so like as soon as it's about to
Speaker 3: get sad, I'm like and end of the movie.
Speaker 1: What a great movie.
Speaker 2: No, I refuse to watch that one again.
Speaker 3: But anyway, like a movie, like you know when someone
Speaker 3: has this like really romantic kiss, and do you know
Speaker 3: what romantic kiss has always come from a bit of
Speaker 3: sexual tension. So like another good tip for an amazing
Speaker 3: kiss is sometimes to not kiss straight away, like build
Speaker 3: up that sexual tension between you guys, like that flirty.
Speaker 2: Energy like you're doing something and then like you know,
Speaker 2: your faces get.
Speaker 3: Close Yeah not yet, yeah, Like yeah, like make them wait,
Speaker 3: build up that chemistry and like a good, really good
Speaker 3: kiss I reckon happens after that.
Speaker 2: That's when that's when it's hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we're spoken about how to improve your kissing style.
Speaker 2: What about the different types of kissing?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's so many, isn't there?
Speaker 2: There is? There's a lot. The eskimo kiss.
Speaker 1: What's the eskimo kiss?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: The noses nose on nose. I personally like the butterfly kiss.
Speaker 1: Have you heard all that?
Speaker 3: You get your eyelashes and you like, oh yeah, you
Speaker 3: like bat your eyelashes.
Speaker 1: On their cheek and it gives you this little tingle.
Speaker 2: You know, I might have to ask you to do
Speaker 2: that when I get that's a cute one.
Speaker 1: What about the forehead kiss?
Speaker 2: Okay, so do you remember the tiktoks that used to
Speaker 2: be when you kiss her on the forehead, it's for her?
Speaker 2: Do you remember I used to do that all the
Speaker 2: time to change. Gene actually told me the other day
Speaker 2: I don't do it anymore that one was for you.
Speaker 2: Like I can make out with her and kiss her
Speaker 2: on the forehead and.
Speaker 1: Be like, honestly, I reckon.
Speaker 3: Guys have seriously got me when they do either a
Speaker 3: forehead kiss or a kiss on the hands, like I'm to.
Speaker 2: Meet you, and they go, nice to meet you. Kiss
Speaker 2: on the hand.
Speaker 3: No, like if I'm like three four dates in like
Speaker 3: it just like fully, just like I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 3: just so romantic. It's like that old school romance that
Speaker 3: like some girls might want, some do want. I definitely
Speaker 3: am like hell yess all for it, And like the
Speaker 3: moment that a guy kisses my forehead or kisses my hand,
Speaker 3: I'm just like, holy shit, it's always knees a week
Speaker 3: to what you want to.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 2: And then we go to like the lips.
Speaker 1: Obviously yep, so we have a peck just like little.
Speaker 2: On the playground when you're six years old, run away
Speaker 2: and tell your friends.
Speaker 3: And then the next is the American kiss, which is
Speaker 3: just basically an open mouth with no tongue. That.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I call this movie kissing and I'm a
Speaker 2: fan of it. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: And then there's a French which is the tongue.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's definitely a happy meeting between no tongue
Speaker 3: and tongue where it's just like a little bit of
Speaker 3: like tongue action.
Speaker 2: Like I said before, Don't get me wrong, my tongue
Speaker 2: will come into play. I just probably not the biggest
Speaker 2: fan of like just going hard with the tongue.
Speaker 3: Okay, Matt, I have a question for you. Go on average,
Speaker 3: how long do you reckon a kiss last?
Speaker 2: For when you're making out with someone, Yeah, like a
Speaker 2: French kiss. Well, we're not talking about your marathon with Michael. Michael,
Speaker 2: which then for hours. Oh, it probably feels a lot
Speaker 2: longer than it is. I reckon, So it probably feels
Speaker 2: like thirty seconds, but it's probably half. That's fifteen seconds.
Speaker 3: Close twelve seconds seconds, So on average, a kiss last
Speaker 3: for twelve seconds. But in the nineteen eighties, couples came
Speaker 3: up for air sooner than that, and their average kiss
Speaker 3: was only five point five seconds, So we've doubled the
Speaker 3: kissing length these days, and why not, like, why not
Speaker 3: have a nice kiss like that?
Speaker 2: Okay, guys, it's our favorite time of the show. It's
Speaker 2: called Where's Our Head Out? Where you asked us the questions?
Speaker 2: So let's get into it.
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, welcome to Where's Our Head Out? Where we
Speaker 3: answer your question. So the first one comes from Pipper
Speaker 3: and she has written in saying, how do you even
Speaker 3: improve your kissing skills? Like, I'm twenty eight and I
Speaker 3: don't know whether to consider myself a novice or an expert. Help,
Speaker 3: I reckon? The best thing to do when you're not
Speaker 3: sure if you're a good kisser or a bad kisser
Speaker 3: is to kind of just follow their lead. Again, like,
Speaker 3: kissing is kind of like something that two people do.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like a dance, and it's kind of
Speaker 3: like in dancing, if one person can dance and the
Speaker 3: other person can't. The dancer can take the lead and
Speaker 3: kind of show you how to do it. So it's
Speaker 3: the same for kissing. So I guess if someone's more experience,
Speaker 3: follow their lead and kind of just start to get
Speaker 3: a feel. The more you kissing, you do for what
Speaker 3: you like, what you don't like.
Speaker 2: I thought I was about to say, pick up on
Speaker 2: what you like about other people and then use that
Speaker 2: yeah for yourself. Yeah, okay, So the next question comes
Speaker 2: in from Tom. It reads, Hey, guys, I'm nearly eighteen
Speaker 2: and haven't had my first kiss yet. I'm very nervous.
Speaker 2: Is there any advice and tips you can give me
Speaker 2: before I do it?
Speaker 3: Advice, have fresh breath. I guess, like, whoever it is
Speaker 3: that you want to kiss, maybe you could tell them
Speaker 3: it's your first kiss so that they're kind of aware
Speaker 3: they can take the lead.
Speaker 2: If you're not worried about who your first kiss is, man,
Speaker 2: I suggest just diving in at a nightclub or a
Speaker 2: bar and kissing someone and just you know, breaking that
Speaker 2: first kiss, learn from it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I guess it's like the thing is is your first
Speaker 3: kiss is really like a learning experience. It's kind of
Speaker 3: like ticking it off the list and then it's like
Speaker 3: the next one will be better, and you start to
Speaker 3: kind of it's a very natural thing kissing, Like I
Speaker 3: feel like it's not something that you have to put
Speaker 3: too much effort into. Like from a very young age,
Speaker 3: we see people kissing in movies on TV, our parents
Speaker 3: or boyfriends and girlfriends, or our siblings or whatever. It is,
Speaker 3: like it's kind of all around us, so we kind
Speaker 3: of know like the logistics of it a little bit,
Speaker 3: and yeah, just go from there and just kind of
Speaker 3: work it out as you go, no pressure, we'll do
Speaker 3: it and I did.
Speaker 2: And draw a little face on your hands and kiss
Speaker 2: that and see how that goes. Okay, guys, that's all
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