Speaker 1: From the Skying New Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Wow,
Speaker 1: anything happened in the past couple of weeks. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much to James Morrow, who did a spectacular job
Speaker 1: holding the forward here, keeping the man Cave alive. Now
Speaker 1: you may have heard a little bit of news today.
Speaker 1: President Joe Biden has sensationally quit the US election race.
Speaker 2: Joe Biden is rewriting American history, becoming the first sitting
Speaker 2: president in decades to quit an election campaign.
Speaker 3: We have breaking news here.
Speaker 4: President Biden has announced he will stand down from the race.
Speaker 1: President Biden has dropped out of the twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: presidential race. Now we all knew it was coming. It
Speaker 1: took a long time, but it ended the way it started.
Speaker 1: Remember the way that he campaigned for the presidency successfully
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty which was from his basement, very selective interviews,
Speaker 1: very small amounts of time that people saw buggarall rallies,
Speaker 1: and befitting that there was, in my view, a cowardly
Speaker 1: way that this president, who was obsessed with history, made
Speaker 1: history today. He did not get in front of a camera,
Speaker 1: he did not pick up the phone, he did not
Speaker 1: release a video message. Befitting of a man of a
Speaker 1: long time ago. He wrote a letter. The letter was
Speaker 1: not even on presidential letterhead, it was from his personal letterhead.
Speaker 1: But in the modern version of mail it was released
Speaker 1: via Twitter. Now it's a small point on a day
Speaker 1: of history, and what you because the focus is really difficult.
Speaker 1: But why I find this a cowardly way for a
Speaker 1: president to make the decision that he has made, is
Speaker 1: that he did not face the nation directly to explain himself.
Speaker 1: Now we have seen presidence of all generations, all political parties,
Speaker 1: and many different stripes, make their way towards a camera
Speaker 1: to deliver big, bold news, and at times of great difficulty,
Speaker 1: to announce the end of their presidencies. Famously, Richard Nixon
Speaker 1: the only president to actually resign from office, not just
Speaker 1: resign from seeking another term in office. He did so
Speaker 1: write down the barrel of a camera. The last person
Speaker 1: to say that they did not want to seek another
Speaker 1: term was Lyndon Baines Johnson, all the way back in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight. Did he write a letter, Did he
Speaker 1: do a phone interview? No, he gave a forty minute
Speaker 1: address to the nation where these words would be remembered forever.
Speaker 2: I shall not see, and I will not accept denomination
Speaker 2: of my party for another term as your president.
Speaker 1: Now, I have no doubt that he would have been
Speaker 1: seething while making that decision. Richard Nixon would have been
Speaker 1: seething while making his decision. But what does it say
Speaker 1: about the weakness and cowardice of Joe Biden that he
Speaker 1: made his decision on a Sunday afternoon in the quietest
Speaker 1: possible fashion and promises not to speak to this matter
Speaker 1: until later in the week. Now, it's a not so
Speaker 1: well known fact, but those that have been watching the
Speaker 1: Biden presidency closely know that he quite frequently meets with historians.
Speaker 1: He's obsessed with his place in history, and while he
Speaker 1: now joins the series of one term presidents, he has
Speaker 1: sought not to be put into the losers club of
Speaker 1: a one term president. Hence, why are you hearing all
Speaker 1: this rubbish e how historic and how amazing and all
Speaker 1: the rest of it his presidency actually is. But the
Speaker 1: reality is that, as we all know, Biden put simply
Speaker 1: ran out of money, and he ran out of friends. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi, the former Speaker of the House, is the
Speaker 1: one who, when Biden had thought that he'd put all
Speaker 1: of this behind him, reopened the wound, and has been
Speaker 1: pouring salt into it every day since. I believe that
Speaker 1: someone went to Biden with an ide history and said,
Speaker 1: here's your options. You can do it your way, and
Speaker 1: we'll call you a hero. We write the history books
Speaker 1: because we are the left. We will call you the
Speaker 1: greatest one termer of all time, a man who achieved
Speaker 1: in four years what others would dream to achieve in eight.
Speaker 1: Or if you want to hold on, we'll send you
Speaker 1: out as a dribbling fool. We will use the twenty
Speaker 1: fifth Amendment, will sack you from office because you are
Speaker 1: not up to the office. And with one eye to history,
Speaker 1: he decided to look forward to how he will be
Speaker 1: remembered and how he will be celebrated, as opposed to
Speaker 1: the figure of cowardice that he ended up being surrounded
Speaker 1: by people who told lie after lie after lie about
Speaker 1: his competence and his capacity to actually lead. Now amazingly,
Speaker 1: again a small bit of detail, but I know that
Speaker 1: watching this show, you love your detail. For the twenty
Speaker 1: fifth Amendment to have been put in place. That's when
Speaker 1: the Vice President says to the cabinet, the ministers of
Speaker 1: the president. Can I get half of you to agree
Speaker 1: with me that we need to remove this person because
Speaker 1: they are incapacitated. Well, what if I told you that
Speaker 1: this man was so weak, so afraid of that actually
Speaker 1: taking place, that the last time there was a full
Speaker 1: cabinet meeting of Joe Biden's administration not last month, but
Speaker 1: actually last year. Deep reporting that was done by CNN.
Speaker 1: Here's the version of it up at Daily Wire says
Speaker 1: that he has not met with his full cabinet since
Speaker 1: October last year. This man was afraid of how it
Speaker 1: would end, because he knew it would. He's tried to
Speaker 1: avoid at all costs the mechanisms that would have pushed
Speaker 1: him out, until eventually, as we all saw before our
Speaker 1: own eyes in the past couple of weeks, he ran
Speaker 1: out of friends, and he ran out of money. The
Speaker 1: money now starts to flow towards Kamala Harris. In the
Speaker 1: next couple of days, we will see. But the latest
Speaker 1: number is forty five million dollars that has magically fallen
Speaker 1: from the sky for her that wasn't there for him.
Speaker 1: Now we all know that the moment that broke the
Speaker 1: Biden lie was the debate when fifty million people on television,
Speaker 1: thirty million people online, and so many more since saw
Speaker 1: this bloke for what he is. But may I take
Speaker 1: a moment to be angry, because we saw this man
Speaker 1: for what he was when he was running for the presidency,
Speaker 1: let alone when he had become the president. We've shown
Speaker 1: this footage almost daily as the metaphor for the failures
Speaker 1: and the bumbling and the falling and all the rest
Speaker 1: of it of Joe Biden over the years. Now, this
Speaker 1: most famously was what we refer to as the man
Speaker 1: who defires gravity because he fell up the stairs, not down. Well,
Speaker 1: you know when that happened. Did that happen last year,
Speaker 1: the year before? No, it happened just fifty nine days
Speaker 1: into his presidency, when he fell up the stairs of
Speaker 1: Air Force one March twenty twenty one, fifty nine days
Speaker 1: into his presidency. The image was there for all to
Speaker 1: see that it was over before it began. We saw
Speaker 1: him fall asleep at a meeting of World Leader again
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty six days into his presidency. But
Speaker 1: there was fact checking. Oh, he was just closing his eyes.
Speaker 1: He wasn't falling asleep again, not even into his first
Speaker 1: full year as President. There were two key examples that
Speaker 1: were just as bad as the debate, And take your
Speaker 1: pick of every other weird moment that has happened that
Speaker 1: we were all told wasn't real.
Speaker 5: Very important thing I told my daughter and grand daughters,
Speaker 5: and those serious guys are recurring, and the environment has
Speaker 5: to investigated discriminately and aggressively, discrimination aggressively. That's my special
Speaker 5: envoid of monor Cabinet of anti Semitism DEMORAUF.
Speaker 1: I shigned pack at Act into law. We were told
Speaker 1: that it was just a stutter. Now, speech impediment does
Speaker 1: not make you fall over. Speech impediment does not mean
Speaker 1: that you don't know the difference between your wife and
Speaker 1: your sister, that you can't quite remember the famous words
Speaker 1: that are said by school children about their country. And
Speaker 1: there was further proof when Joe Biden did exactly what
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was accused of, which was taking classified documents
Speaker 1: and not returning them. There was an investigation that was
Speaker 1: done by the Special Counsel Robert Hurr. He concluded that
Speaker 1: while Joe Biden had effectively committed a crime, the reason
Speaker 1: why he was not to be charged was because during
Speaker 1: the face to face meeting he was a sympathetic, well
Speaker 1: meaning old man who couldn't remember things like dates about
Speaker 1: when his son passed away, the dates of it when
Speaker 1: he was vice president versus actually president. Yet again, the
Speaker 1: lie around Biden was propagated by the media, who said
Speaker 1: your eyes can't tell the truth, believe me. Famously, Joe
Speaker 1: Scarborough is a host on the MSNBC channel in the
Speaker 1: United States. It's the left wing channel, and he's been
Speaker 1: the single biggest cheerleader, defender and television air support for
Speaker 1: anything bad about Joe Biden. After the Special Council had
Speaker 1: concluded that this bloke was not up to it, then
Speaker 1: this is what he lied when he said about the
Speaker 1: president and why all of it wasn't true.
Speaker 4: This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically is the best Biden ever,
Speaker 4: not a close second. And I've known him for years.
Speaker 4: The Brazenskis have known him for fifty years. If it
Speaker 4: weren't the truth and say it, they say.
Speaker 1: In politics that it's the cover up that will always
Speaker 1: get you. The cover up has been there since when
Speaker 1: he ran for president in twenty nineteen, when he campaigned
Speaker 1: for president in twenty twenty, when he became the president
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one and every day since, including people
Speaker 1: who saw what we all saw at the debate. A
Speaker 1: couple of weeks before the debate, remember famously, when George
Speaker 1: Clooney came forward and said that it was time for
Speaker 1: Joe Biden to leave because of what he had seen
Speaker 1: at a mega fundraising event which he and Julia Roberts
Speaker 1: hosted in Los Angeles. Were the videos of the President
Speaker 1: of the United States being let off the stage were
Speaker 1: referred to again from the White House itself, the White
Speaker 1: House that claims Trump's presidency was the lying presidency. This
Speaker 1: is what the White House told you, me, everyone else
Speaker 1: about this man. Despite the fact that they saw it,
Speaker 1: they pretended it didn't exist. In fact, they flat out
Speaker 1: invented a new word, cheap fake.
Speaker 6: Instead of talking about the president's performance in office, and
Speaker 6: what I mean by that is as legislative wins, what
Speaker 6: he's been able to do for the American people across
Speaker 6: the country, we're seeing these deep FECs, these manipulated videos.
Speaker 1: They all knew. They all lied because they thought that
Speaker 1: they could hide the lie the same way they hid
Speaker 1: the lie in twenty twenty in the basement. But they
Speaker 1: didn't have the cover of COVID, and once the debate
Speaker 1: exposed the man that you saw falling up the stairs
Speaker 1: fifty nine days into his four year term, they all
Speaker 1: said nothing to see here as part of the effort
Speaker 1: to try to get rid of this president, simply because
Speaker 1: we all learnt that the lie couldn't be sustained. Again,
Speaker 1: George Clooney, the bloke who was in charge of that
Speaker 1: fundraiser where Joe Biden was shuffled off the stage by
Speaker 1: Barack Obama. George Clooney wrote a piece that I know
Speaker 1: James talked about, but it's worth rereading just one paragraph
Speaker 1: of it. It's devastating to say, but the Joe Biden
Speaker 1: I was with three weeks ago at the fundraiser was
Speaker 1: not the big effing deal Biden of twenty ten. That's
Speaker 1: when Medicare, sorry, the Affordable Care Act was passed Obamacare.
Speaker 1: He wasn't even the Joe Biden of twenty twenty, the
Speaker 1: one who of course won the presidency. He was the
Speaker 1: same man we all witnessed at the debate. But where
Speaker 1: is the courage from this bloke to come out and
Speaker 1: say it and tell the truth when everyone else was
Speaker 1: buying the lie? When everyone else was spreading the lie.
Speaker 1: These people will all now come forward and tell us
Speaker 1: that he's the greatest president has ever served four years,
Speaker 1: that whoever replaces it will be the best, that Trump's
Speaker 1: the threat to democracy. These people lied effortlessly, and even
Speaker 1: when they see it with their own eyes, they kept lying.
Speaker 1: It was only when they had the permission to tell
Speaker 1: the truth because of what we all saw at the
Speaker 1: debate that they started to come through. But without doubt,
Speaker 1: the single biggest protector and liar about the condition of
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is Kamala Harris. Now, of course it is
Speaker 1: a vice president's job to go in and at times
Speaker 1: defend what seems to be the indefensible. But again, when
Speaker 1: this was the performance at the debate, and I'm.
Speaker 5: Going to continue to move until we get the total
Speaker 5: band on, the total initiative relative to what we're going
Speaker 5: to do with more border patrol and.
Speaker 1: More asylum off Kamala Harris, who will now demand you
Speaker 1: believe her telling the truth about how evil Trump and
Speaker 1: Vance and the Republicans and everyone else is. This is
Speaker 1: the lie that she spread on the very night of
Speaker 1: the debate.
Speaker 7: Listen, First of all, what we saw tonight is the president,
Speaker 7: making a very clear contrast with Donald Trump on all
Speaker 7: of the issues that matter to the American people. Yes,
Speaker 7: there was a slow start, but it was a strong finish.
Speaker 1: She lied over and over and over.
Speaker 7: So I'm not going to spend all night with you
Speaker 7: talking about the last ninety minutes when I've been watching
Speaker 7: the last three and a half years of performance.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just one interview. She went across to
Speaker 1: the home ground that is MSNBC, the ones that we're
Speaker 1: trying to desperately wonder how do we keep telling the
Speaker 1: lie even though we know where the truth is.
Speaker 7: And what we saw tonight is more of the same.
Speaker 7: Joe Biden fighting for the American people, Donald Trump fighting
Speaker 7: for himself, and quite.
Speaker 1: Rightly, the Republicans have turned around and have said that
Speaker 1: Americans and those of us who care about that country
Speaker 1: should be white hot with rage. That's one thing for
Speaker 1: George Clooney to tell a lie. It's one thing for
Speaker 1: a host on MSNBC to tell a lie. Neither of
Speaker 1: those are acceptable. But when the person who is the
Speaker 1: heartbeat away from the presidency is lying over and over
Speaker 1: and over again, she deserves everything she's going to get
Speaker 1: as the liar in chief defending Biden, which is why
Speaker 1: the Republican Party Trump's super packs have come out today
Speaker 1: with these devastating examples of it.
Speaker 3: Kamala was in on it.
Speaker 8: She covered up Joe's obvious mental decline.
Speaker 7: Our president is in good shap, in good health, tireless, vibrant,
Speaker 7: and I have no doubt about the strength of the
Speaker 7: work that we have done.
Speaker 1: But Carmalin knew Joe couldn't do the job. Now, let's
Speaker 1: all watch in the next few weeks and months where
Speaker 1: she's somehow going to pretend that, oh, look, I was
Speaker 1: the vice president, but I wasn't really around for any
Speaker 1: of the decisions. Now, in this election, every poll has
Speaker 1: told us that there are three main options for why
Speaker 1: people are going to vote the way that they are
Speaker 1: going to vote in No, the Democrats will try to
Speaker 1: say that it's going to be about abortion, but that's
Speaker 1: currently running third, fourth, fifth behind the economy. Is she
Speaker 1: going to pretend, oh, look, I was that's all Joe,
Speaker 1: That's all Joe. But then there's the number one issue,
Speaker 1: which is immigration. She will not be able to pretend
Speaker 1: that it was all Joe's fault because remember, Joe picked
Speaker 1: her as vice president to be responsible for the border.
Speaker 8: If you ever wondered how Joe Biden could get the
Speaker 8: border so screwed up, remember he had help. Here's Biden
Speaker 8: appointing Kamala Harris to be his borders are to deal
Speaker 8: with illegal immigration. And here are a record number of
Speaker 8: illegal immigrants ten million in counting flooding over the border.
Speaker 8: After Harris was put in charge of stopping illegal immigration.
Speaker 1: Wat you try to hold back the laughing the way
Speaker 1: Joe tried to quit hair sniffing. I'm finally going to
Speaker 1: do it for ten more days than it could be president. So,
Speaker 1: after Joe Biden had released the cowardly letter, he then
Speaker 1: followed up by going, oh, that's right, I forgot to
Speaker 1: actually endorse my vice president. She did so, and this
Speaker 1: was the photo that was released. If you're back Biden,
Speaker 1: you're our back Harris. And there's lots of reasons why
Speaker 1: all of that is the case. But she now is
Speaker 1: most likely going to be the Democrat nomine I'll explain
Speaker 1: why in the second in part. One of the reasons
Speaker 1: is because despite the fact that they want an open
Speaker 1: process to make sure that it's not just a bunch
Speaker 1: of smoke filled or vape filled rooms that will end
Speaker 1: up picking the candidate. Oh no, this is an open
Speaker 1: process where anyone who wants to put their hand up can,
Speaker 1: just like the primary process when Yes Kennedy and others
Speaker 1: put their hand up and said I'm going to run
Speaker 1: against Joe Biden. But no, no, no, we'll have no debates.
Speaker 1: There'll be very little interviews with these people. So, surprise, surprise,
Speaker 1: the very process that was supposed to expose the lie
Speaker 1: and expose his unfitness for office and expose what we
Speaker 1: all later saw, that process which was apparently open to
Speaker 1: anyone to challenge him. Well, of course it wasn't the
Speaker 1: same organization, the same people who campaigned from the Bay,
Speaker 1: the same people who spread the law. Oh he's fine,
Speaker 1: he's great, he's the smartest he's ever been, falling up
Speaker 1: the stairs. That's just your lying eyes. That's rubbish, pushed
Speaker 1: by pro Trump people from Washington to Australia. Well, the reality,
Speaker 1: of course, is that while this will be a allegedly
Speaker 1: open process, the media has made it very clear, don't
Speaker 1: anyone challenge this woman.
Speaker 9: I've been processing this for five hours already, and it
Speaker 9: still gives me chills to say it.
Speaker 3: In the instant.
Speaker 9: He announced it at one forty six pm this afternoon.
Speaker 3: Everything changed, Everything changed.
Speaker 9: The Democratic Party instantly ends it's internal war, this emotional, intense,
Speaker 9: harrowing fight that has torn the party apart for the
Speaker 9: past three and a half weeks, that is over in
Speaker 9: an instant.
Speaker 1: Shut up backer if you question her racism, sexism, all
Speaker 1: of this garbage, that's going to be put in place.
Speaker 1: But of course, the greatest indication of future results is
Speaker 1: past performance. Kamala Harris is a bad politician, certainly bad
Speaker 1: on the national stage because you see, she competed with
Speaker 1: Joe Biden to be the Democrat nominee back in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: and she was so bad that she dropped out of
Speaker 1: the race even before a vote was cast.
Speaker 7: You know, there was a little girl in California who
Speaker 7: was part of the second class to integrate her public schools,
Speaker 7: and she was bussed to school every day. And that
Speaker 7: little girl was me in.
Speaker 5: Terms of bussing the bussy, and I never you would
Speaker 5: have been able to go to school the same exact way.
Speaker 10: Because well, some of her Harris is doing is unfortunately
Speaker 10: continuing to traffic in lies and smears and innuendos.
Speaker 1: She was totally scripted, was all swagger, all the rest
Speaker 1: of it. Will of course, it all just fell away.
Speaker 1: One of the many postscripts and post mortems about her
Speaker 1: disastrous run at the presidency, well, it concluded about the
Speaker 1: type of person that she was back then and presumably
Speaker 1: would still be now. Again. You've heard a lot, but
Speaker 1: I know you like the details, so let's jump into
Speaker 1: it now. Kamala Harris's campaign completely unraveled in part because
Speaker 1: people were being yelled at, screamed at by her all
Speaker 1: the rest of it. They were undermined. They didn't feel
Speaker 1: that they were in the right place. And guess what
Speaker 1: has happened since she, of course became the vice president.
Speaker 1: She's had lots of staff come and go from her office.
Speaker 1: She has no long term people around her. What does
Speaker 1: it say about a person who only has new friends
Speaker 1: and no old friends around them? Tells you a lot,
Speaker 1: doesn't it?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: In the Washington Post, they wrote this about that particular
Speaker 1: moment in time when as the vice president, so in
Speaker 1: the past four years, how she treated the people who
Speaker 1: worked for her. Critics scattered over two decades point to
Speaker 1: an inconsistent and at times degrading principle which means her
Speaker 1: who burns through seasoned staff members who've succeeded in other demanding,
Speaker 1: high profile positions. People used to be put aside missteps,
Speaker 1: used to putting aside missteps, sacrificing sleep in during the
Speaker 1: occasional tirade from an a rate boss. But all of
Speaker 1: that was too much when they worked for her as
Speaker 1: vice president. But we are where we are, so let
Speaker 1: me explain to you why Harris is the favorite and
Speaker 1: the most likely to become the Democrat nominee. There's three
Speaker 1: simple reasons, and it's the mechanics of the so called
Speaker 1: open process, where anyone who wants to put the hand
Speaker 1: ups allowed to put the hand up. But just like
Speaker 1: when they were leaking the questions to the Clinton campaign
Speaker 1: against Bernie Sanders, they've already got their preferred candidate. If
Speaker 1: you run against them, the media that normally will life
Speaker 1: you will tear you apart. But here are the three reasons.
Speaker 1: Number one, every person who goes to the convention at
Speaker 1: the end of August is, yes, a Biden delegate, but
Speaker 1: more specifically, every physical human being that will be there
Speaker 1: has been chosen by people that are loyal to the
Speaker 1: Biden campaign. So those people are not going to go
Speaker 1: against Joe Biden's pick to replace him. Secondly, about fifty
Speaker 1: million dollars worth of money that's been raised by the
Speaker 1: Biden Harris campaign automatically moves to her because she is
Speaker 1: part of the Biden Harris campaign. The money, which of
Speaker 1: course without you can't run for the presidency, goes to her.
Speaker 1: And Thirdly, most of the serious people who would be
Speaker 1: even a chance of putting their hand up, they on
Speaker 1: day one said I'm with her, backing her in. So
Speaker 1: someone might somewhere put their hand up. But this is
Speaker 1: over before it begins, which brings us to what happens
Speaker 1: in the election. Is there data that is around that
Speaker 1: suddenly shows that Harris is going to be able to
Speaker 1: do way better than Biden ever did. Obviously, we'll all
Speaker 1: find out in the next couple of weeks as they
Speaker 1: picked their candidate and then that candidate starts to get
Speaker 1: the message out. We'll see whether the arm wrestle turns
Speaker 1: this election into one about abortion, which is one that's
Speaker 1: going to be very difficult for the Republicans and I've
Speaker 1: told you about that many times before, or will it
Speaker 1: stay where it has been for the past couple of
Speaker 1: years about immigration, about inflation, both of which Harris in
Speaker 1: the room owns those bad decisions. Well, have a look
Speaker 1: at this. I had a look at the website five
Speaker 1: point thirty eight, which is a great aggregator of all
Speaker 1: sorts of data that's around when it comes to politics
Speaker 1: and polling. It shows that in the past couple of
Speaker 1: weeks they did a bunch of polling to compare how
Speaker 1: Trump and Harris would go. Now, this is all national polling,
Speaker 1: and as you can see, the best of it for
Speaker 1: Trump is like fifty two forty five, and then we
Speaker 1: might get down to a sort of forty six forty five.
Speaker 1: At fifty two forty eight, it might get a little close,
Speaker 1: like forty two to thirty seven. But again the national
Speaker 1: vote doesn't matter. So when you hear in the next
Speaker 1: couple of days, oh, Kamala Harris has got an incredible
Speaker 1: boost in the polls. She's gone from Biden forty three
Speaker 1: to now she's forty. It doesn't matter because just like
Speaker 1: our elections here in Australia are one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: one different little electorates, the states are separate electorates and
Speaker 1: depending on the size of the population, that's the amount
Speaker 1: of votes that they have anything called the electoral college.
Speaker 1: The electoral college is where you need two hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy votes in the electoral college to become the president.
Speaker 1: Which is why we always talk about the swing states.
Speaker 1: These are the states that, yes every four years, are
Speaker 1: not locked in as team Red or team Blue. So,
Speaker 1: for example, a place like Texas middle and bottom of
Speaker 1: the map hardcore Republican, you can bank those forty votes,
Speaker 1: whereas California at fifty four hardcore blue. So the toss
Speaker 1: up states ends up being Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona,
Speaker 1: and Nevada. Well, believe it or not, I even have
Speaker 1: some data there to tell you.
Speaker 11: That.
Speaker 1: The current polling, just before Biden decided to cowardly slip
Speaker 1: out of the race via a letter, it showed that
Speaker 1: in Arizona, Trump was winning forty eight forty two, in
Speaker 1: Georgia forty eight forty two in Nevada again forty eight
Speaker 1: forty one, forty seven forty two in Michigan, forty eight
Speaker 1: forty four in Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin forty eight forty four.
Speaker 1: If all of that became an electoral college, you need
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy votes to win. But this would
Speaker 1: be the map that we would all be waking up
Speaker 1: to at the start of November after an election where
Speaker 1: Donald Trump would win by three hundred and twelve electoral votes.
Speaker 1: So is Kamala Harris currently so much more popular that
Speaker 1: Joe Biden? That Joe Biden had to go, had to
Speaker 1: get out of the way, and the people that have
Speaker 1: protected and lied and not told the truth about him
Speaker 1: are now the ones that they're going to say, believe
Speaker 1: me because I'm a better option. The answer is no. Now,
Speaker 1: of course she's not the candidate. When she is the candidate,
Speaker 1: that these numbers become a little bit more real. But
Speaker 1: just on general principle, people who saw her as the senator,
Speaker 1: who saw her as the vice president, who saw her
Speaker 1: as the borders are what do they think in those
Speaker 1: swing states? Again, this is where it sits now. No
Speaker 1: change in Arizona forty eight, forty two, Georgia, it's better
Speaker 1: for Trump fifty one, forty six, Nevada it's better for
Speaker 1: Trump fifty forty. No data out of Michigan. In Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: it's forty seven, forty slightly better for the Democrats. Wisconsin
Speaker 1: eight forty seven line ball, Wisconsin is the best and
Speaker 1: only major change. So let's have a look. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: and let's say all it will be nice and kind.
Speaker 1: We will take the most proharised states of Wisconsin and Michigan.
Speaker 1: Because we have no data. What does that look like
Speaker 1: on the map two seventy to win. Well, currently Trump
Speaker 1: is sitting at two eighty seven. He would still win
Speaker 1: if all of that polling ended up being true and
Speaker 1: being the reality. So where we are right now is
Speaker 1: that you should always trust your eyes. You should always
Speaker 1: trust what you see, and do not let the vested
Speaker 1: interests try to tell you that up is down and
Speaker 1: down is up, and black is white and left is
Speaker 1: right and all of this rubbish. They have been able
Speaker 1: to pull off one of the greatest frauds on an
Speaker 1: electorate in Western history, where a man who they knew
Speaker 1: wasn't up to it, they got behind because they found
Speaker 1: a way to hide the life for four years. The
Speaker 1: person who couldn't even get a single vote for her
Speaker 1: as the nominee in twenty twenty gets plucked because she's
Speaker 1: a woman of color to become the vice president. The
Speaker 1: polls show that once the lie becomes indefensible that Joe's
Speaker 1: got to go. And now the same people who have
Speaker 1: told you all those lies, all of that garbage for
Speaker 1: the past four years are about to stump up and
Speaker 1: now play defense for Kamala Harris. She has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the border, nothing to do with the economy.
Speaker 1: She was yes, she was the vice president, which means
Speaker 1: she's qualified to be the president, but she wasn't involved
Speaker 1: in any of the decisions that you don't like. This
Speaker 1: is going to be a fascinating ride. We will be
Speaker 1: into it all day, every day, every detail. Meghan Kelly
Speaker 1: joins us in a couple of minutes time, But I'm
Speaker 1: keen to know what you think. You can always send
Speaker 1: any of Paullot's going news dot com dot AU. What
Speaker 1: an incredible time we are living through, and it's an
Speaker 1: incredible privilege to be able to try and work it
Speaker 1: out with you each and every night. I'm glad you're here,
Speaker 1: Meghan Kelly in a couple of minutes, But in the meantime,
Speaker 1: plenty to talk about with my dear friend Sam Crosby
Speaker 1: here in the man Cave. Senator in Matt Canavan joining
Speaker 1: us now as well from wonderful camera, which I know
Speaker 1: is about as cold as Queensland was last week. I enjoyed,
Speaker 1: you know, I love, I love going back to the
Speaker 1: spiritual home. Queensland was freezing last week and I've got
Speaker 1: the little chests cold and all the rest of it
Speaker 1: as a result. But anyway, God love Queensland. All right,
Speaker 1: you've heard everything I've had to say. Sam, you're the
Speaker 1: man who would like Trump not to be president, so
Speaker 1: you get to go first. Are you excited that you're
Speaker 1: going to get Carmala? I'm excited for change.
Speaker 12: You know, we knew, we knew any but we knew
Speaker 12: that Biden was going to lose. You know, that was
Speaker 12: that was obvious. There was no path forward. It's highly
Speaker 12: likely I would say that Trump is still the president.
Speaker 12: He beats Harris in November. But you know, there's a
Speaker 12: lot of polls and a lot of data saying Americans
Speaker 12: just want to move on. Yes, they don't want either
Speaker 12: of them, They just they just want someone else. Well
Speaker 12: she's someone else, so let's see. Well yeah, and that's
Speaker 12: that's a ringing endorsement.
Speaker 1: Now, Matt, there obvious vulnerabilities here, right, Trump now becomes
Speaker 1: the old guy. The media who have tried to ignore
Speaker 1: the cheap fakes and all of that stuff will now
Speaker 1: go full bore on trying to do to Trump what
Speaker 1: has been done to Biden about showing age. Right, so
Speaker 1: when I sit back and I giggle at things that
Speaker 1: when he talks about washing machines or electric boats, this
Speaker 1: suddenly will become Oh, is this guy fit to become
Speaker 1: the president? And now we have this battle about what
Speaker 1: the election is about. Kamala Harris is obviously going to
Speaker 1: pretend I'm qualified to be president because I was vice president,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't part of any decisions that were made
Speaker 1: by the current president. Good luck threading that needle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a small gap to go through. But look,
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure Karmela will be the candidate yet
Speaker 2: still a month to the Democratic National Convention. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've lived through a pretty amazing week or so in politics.
Speaker 2: As they say, a week is a long time in
Speaker 2: politics and a month as an eternity. So look, let's
Speaker 2: just wait and see. I think there certainly are other
Speaker 2: candidates out there pushing their barrow. I imagine there'll be probably
Speaker 2: the mother of all smear campaigns from those candidates unleashed
Speaker 2: against Kamala and there's probably plenty of content around there,
Speaker 2: given that she didn't do that well in her original
Speaker 2: primary contest, as you outlined earlier. So I still think
Speaker 2: there's a lot of water under the boat here. I
Speaker 2: do think though, the Trump campaigns in a very strong position.
Speaker 2: I mean, they now, whoever the candidate is, they can
Speaker 2: cast their opponent as not a person but as a machine.
Speaker 2: Because the candidate Donald Trump face faces will be picked
Speaker 2: by a faceless political machine.
Speaker 11: It's not a primary process.
Speaker 2: We know the person who gets it will most certainly
Speaker 2: won't be independent. There'll be deals being done in back
Speaker 2: rooms that the American people will have no idea about.
Speaker 2: The Probably there was probably a deal done with Joe
Speaker 2: Biden to force the resignation. All we still haven't got
Speaker 2: a proof of life yet that he even knows that
Speaker 2: he resigned. So I mean, there's a lot of water
Speaker 2: under this bridge to go yet. But whatever, however you
Speaker 2: cut at Donald Trump's in the box, I.
Speaker 12: Will give you a prediction though, that you will never
Speaker 12: ever ever have another con convention in Chicago ever. Again,
Speaker 12: that is snake bit sixty eight fifty whatever it was
Speaker 12: fifty two to fifty three with the last two open
Speaker 12: broken conventions. There is some sort of weird curse going
Speaker 12: on in Chicago. Democrats are never going to send it
Speaker 12: back there ever again.
Speaker 1: Now, we could talk for the rest of the night
Speaker 1: about it, but I've got Meegan coming up, So let's
Speaker 1: move on to some of the Australian stuff that i'n't
Speaker 1: been able to talk about for a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be back again. Thank you to
Speaker 1: James for filling in all of the team. You've done
Speaker 1: incredible things. Well, what a surprise. The polling is just
Speaker 1: amazing for the greatest prime minister of all time leading
Speaker 1: the greatest government of all time. Right, newspoll comes out
Speaker 1: today It shows that the coalition's primary vote is now
Speaker 1: sitting there at what thirty eight percent? He puts his
Speaker 1: glasses on, But of course that just might be news poll.
Speaker 1: Well what about the Resolve poll that says the L
Speaker 1: and P is at thirty eight More importantly, Labours now
Speaker 1: down to twenty eight percent nationally? What about over the
Speaker 1: turble times They're okay, right, they've got Labor at twenty
Speaker 1: nine percent right now. And the Morgan pole which came
Speaker 1: out tonight says that the Labor Party's primary voters at
Speaker 1: thirty point one, and in fact on two pp it's
Speaker 1: the Libs and the Nats in front fifty one forty nine,
Speaker 1: which is the same as the freshwater pot which came
Speaker 1: out today via the Financial Review. Matt again, but I
Speaker 1: keep reading if any of this takes place, that there
Speaker 1: was an election tomorrow, Albanize still gets returned, despite the
Speaker 1: fact that now a couple of showing that there's fifty
Speaker 1: one percent of the electorate that would end up voting
Speaker 1: for a change of government. Explain to us why a
Speaker 1: poll that says fifty one forty nine is not interpreted
Speaker 1: as you could win this next election.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not interpreted as that because we have effectively
Speaker 2: the political equivalent of Mount Everest to climb. We have
Speaker 2: to win twenty seats. A little bit depends on how
Speaker 2: you reclassify some of the re drawn seats, but around
Speaker 2: twenty seats are needed for the Liberal and National Party
Speaker 2: to former majority. That is an achievement bigger than what
Speaker 2: Tanney Abbott achieved when he nearly knocked off the first
Speaker 2: term government. So it's an enormous, enormous effort enormous challenge. Look,
Speaker 2: I think definitely this is an open race. It's very
Speaker 2: very close, and it's going to come down to the
Speaker 2: next few months leading up to the election.
Speaker 11: But there's no way you can say.
Speaker 2: That the Liberal National Party is somehow a lock or
Speaker 2: a given to win this.
Speaker 11: We're just in the race. We've got a lot of
Speaker 11: work to do.
Speaker 2: Can't be arrogant, but there's no doubt this trained people
Speaker 2: are not convinced by this government. They have a high
Speaker 2: degree of anxiety about the economic situation facing this country,
Speaker 2: and certainly I don't think people think this government has
Speaker 2: the answers or had the solutions when they got elected
Speaker 2: to fix the problems we've got right now. So that
Speaker 2: gives us an opportunity. It's just an opportunity, though not.
Speaker 1: A given sam to use accrudism. People are pushing bricks
Speaker 1: at the idea of another interest rate rise. That happens.
Speaker 1: A lot of the spin in there around the budget,
Speaker 1: of course, completely falls away. Plenty of quotes about oh,
Speaker 1: I won't be information to all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: But there was a story today the nine years rent
Speaker 1: that I want to have to look at here, which
Speaker 1: was one hundred and sixty five thousand homeowners may be
Speaker 1: forced to sell if there is one more interest rung
Speaker 1: And I get the feeling we're right on the line
Speaker 1: of what people are willing to come.
Speaker 12: And look, I think that's the biggest story here. It's
Speaker 12: not so much the political machinations and the poles and whatnot.
Speaker 12: Another interest rate rise hammers people that simply cannot afford
Speaker 12: another hammering. You know, there is a generation of renters
Speaker 12: out there that this interest rate rise, if it does happen,
Speaker 12: would just get passed straight onto their rent. So, you know,
Speaker 12: I think the pole, if I were sitting in Albanese's office,
Speaker 12: I'd say that the respondents to this pole are sending
Speaker 12: your message. I don't think that is the same as
Speaker 12: I'm voting against you it the next selection. I absolutely
Speaker 12: don't concede that, But I do think they are saying,
Speaker 12: you know, we're hurting, and we want you to hurt
Speaker 12: with us, and we want you to hear us hurting.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look, I've sat here the whole time
Speaker 1: talking about how unless I see some polling that the
Speaker 1: Teals are going to move and the chance of getting
Speaker 1: to the seventy six becomes mathematically very difficult. It should
Speaker 1: be noted though, that if this news poll currently was
Speaker 1: what came to pass, or the freshwater I think comes
Speaker 1: to pass, the seventy eight seats becomes seventy one seats,
Speaker 1: which means you are down into Green's territory of needing
Speaker 1: them to pop up. And the only thing worse than
Speaker 1: minority government for labor is going to be if the
Speaker 1: Greens have any actual formal role in confidence and supply.
Speaker 12: Yeah, all the way through this government, it was being
Speaker 12: predicted this was probably the last majority government for quite
Speaker 12: a while, so that's sort of baked in. But you're
Speaker 12: absolutely right. The challenge he will get it will be
Speaker 12: for Albaniz to be returned with enough paths to get
Speaker 12: to seventy five. So, for instance, in New South Palst,
Speaker 12: Chris Mens is technically a minority government, but he's got
Speaker 12: a cross bench of I think it's about fourteen or
Speaker 12: fifteen yes, and he needs one vote. So the price
Speaker 12: for government is effectively.
Speaker 1: Narrow, true, but one is different than seven of absolutely man,
Speaker 1: and you're going through all the normals and then some teals,
Speaker 1: then we start to get to the Greens. Here again,
Speaker 1: what I sort of find interesting here about a message
Speaker 1: is if we look like we're headed towards minority government,
Speaker 1: doesn't that strengthen the teal's capacity to go to the
Speaker 1: local communities and say, well, we're actually going to be
Speaker 1: in the driver's seat, which kind of does make it
Speaker 1: quite difficult to blast them out as being useless.
Speaker 2: Look, yes and no, I think Paul I disagree with
Speaker 2: Sam that somehow we won't get a majority government for
Speaker 2: some time. I think the best way to guarantee a
Speaker 2: majority governments have a minority government for a term, and
Speaker 2: people will turn against that pretty quickly, as they did
Speaker 2: last time we had that, I mean a decade or
Speaker 2: so ago. So look, maybe I think the opportunity for
Speaker 2: Leberal National Party here is to bring forward that fear
Speaker 2: about a minority government and what it might mean for
Speaker 2: this country in uncertain times, and that might then see
Speaker 2: a bigger change in the vote than we see in
Speaker 2: the polls through an election campaign, because I think what
Speaker 2: you're going to see is the fact that if I
Speaker 2: vote for Labor at this election is a vote for chaos.
Speaker 2: It's a vote for a complete unknown and uncertainty. And
Speaker 2: even for those voters in the till seats, look I'm
Speaker 2: just not so sure people want to sign up to that.
Speaker 11: We face very precarious times.
Speaker 2: We really want to go into a situation where the
Speaker 2: governor of the day has to enter into a massive
Speaker 2: bargaining process post the election, post that you've been voted
Speaker 2: to decide what the policies and laws of this country
Speaker 2: should be. I think we actually need a strong government
Speaker 2: with a strong mandate to navigate these uncertain times, and
Speaker 2: that will be a key factor, I'm sure at the
Speaker 2: next election.
Speaker 12: Look, that's right, that is the absolutely the fear, and
Speaker 12: that's the thing that Albanize has got to avoid.
Speaker 11: But he lived through this.
Speaker 12: He was Leader of the House during that last minority
Speaker 12: government period, so I think he'll say very clearly, I'm
Speaker 12: not going to sit down and do that silly signing
Speaker 12: ceremony that looked like a marriage license you with Bob
Speaker 12: Brown and Julie Gillom not everybody believing.
Speaker 1: But what if the Green say we're not going to
Speaker 1: give you a supply unless then I.
Speaker 12: Think, I think I can't try anything the politician says
Speaker 12: before then. I think then I think it comes down
Speaker 12: to Anthony Alberenezy saying, idea you idea and if you
Speaker 12: want to move a motion and no confidence in me, fine,
Speaker 12: you can go back to your electorates in Melbourne and
Speaker 12: explain why we've got Peter Dutton as Prime minister.
Speaker 1: Why we're having a new election. Yeah, all their bluff, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it'd be nice to see maybe just don't give
Speaker 1: him preferences. Let's all work on that. Thank you, Sam,
Speaker 1: Thank you, senenor look forward to talking to you again
Speaker 1: very soon. Megan Kelly joins a straight up for the
Speaker 1: break her take and bye bye, Brandon. You've heard from me,
Speaker 1: You've heard from the boys. Now let's hear from the
Speaker 1: best in the business, Meghan Kelly in the United States. Meghan,
Speaker 1: love you to see you. We knew it was coming.
Speaker 1: But what's your reaction?
Speaker 3: It's mixed.
Speaker 10: I'm relieved because this man should not be leader of
Speaker 10: the free world. He should not be our president. He
Speaker 10: should be resigning the presidency along with his candidacy for
Speaker 10: a second term. If he can't do a second term
Speaker 10: as president, why should we allow him to finish.
Speaker 3: Out the first term.
Speaker 10: I mean, he's admitting he's not competent to handle the job,
Speaker 10: so it's an outrage that he's doing it.
Speaker 3: So I'm relieved that he's.
Speaker 10: Leaving, but I'm angry because I, along with my fellow Americans,
Speaker 10: have been the victim of an attempted fraud.
Speaker 3: That's what's happened here.
Speaker 10: He has been incompetent, mentally incompetent to serve for months
Speaker 10: and most probably years, and they've been hiding it.
Speaker 3: They've been hiding it.
Speaker 10: And only when they decided to swing for the fences
Speaker 10: and push him out onto a presidential debate stage where
Speaker 10: this problem could no longer be denied and manifested in
Speaker 10: a way where we all saw it with our eyes
Speaker 10: and ears, did they have to sort of start admitting
Speaker 10: the truth, which is he's no longer there.
Speaker 3: He dug in, he didn't want to leave.
Speaker 10: And what slowly started to happen over the past three
Speaker 10: weeks was Nancy Pelosi, former House Speaker who's really apparently
Speaker 10: the ruler of the Democratic Party, stuck the knife in
Speaker 10: just a little at first, and by the end she
Speaker 10: had it on.
Speaker 3: A full twist.
Speaker 10: The reporting by top Democrat, well top reporters who cover
Speaker 10: Democrats very well and have a lot of connections with them,
Speaker 10: is that she essentially said, this is going to get
Speaker 10: far more painful in the days to come unless you go.
Speaker 10: And so we knew it was coming, and it did come,
Speaker 10: and it just shows that these Democrat politicians are absolutely ruthless.
Speaker 3: When it comes to winning elections.
Speaker 10: So now he goes and the media that propped up
Speaker 10: this liar and this lie are now fawning all over
Speaker 10: him like he actually is Jesus returning to planet Earth.
Speaker 3: To save us.
Speaker 10: All he's I mean, I'm he's gonna be submitted.
Speaker 3: For Saint Hoood within the week.
Speaker 10: It's abs and it's incredibly aggravating.
Speaker 1: Now, I've been watching your coverage as all of this
Speaker 1: was happening and in the laid up to it, and
Speaker 1: I agree with every word. There is something that is
Speaker 1: aggravating about what has happened today, not because we wanted
Speaker 1: Joe Biden to stick around, but because essentially there has
Speaker 1: been a coup, a bloodless coup. Now we're used to
Speaker 1: these things in our country because it's the members of
Speaker 1: Parliament who picked the prime minister. But it is only
Speaker 1: ever the voters that are supposed to pick the president.
Speaker 3: That's exactly it.
Speaker 10: They do not care if they have somebody who is
Speaker 10: incompetent at the helm.
Speaker 3: They want to govern by team.
Speaker 10: After that debate, we saw some top Democrats repeatedly tweeting
Speaker 10: out like, the presidency is more of a team. It's
Speaker 10: not really a one man job. No, it's exactly a
Speaker 10: one man job. That's exactly how our founders created it,
Speaker 10: read the Constitution. So it's incredibly frustrating to see them
Speaker 10: just blow right past his incompetence, something a past they
Speaker 10: would never be giving to any Republican.
Speaker 3: Never mind Donald.
Speaker 10: But what happened after the debate was his polls absolutely cratered.
Speaker 3: They created on the national level, which suggests.
Speaker 10: What the popular vote is going to be, they created
Speaker 10: on the swing state level, which shows us how the
Speaker 10: electoral vote is going to go on the presidency, and
Speaker 10: they cretered at the lower levels in key house races
Speaker 10: in particular across the country in blue states, in places
Speaker 10: like California and New York, which have been getting slightly
Speaker 10: redder here and there. Keep in mind both those states,
Speaker 10: while very blue, have had Republican governors in the past
Speaker 10: twenty years, so they're not all blue, and they're gettable.
Speaker 10: If you tick the people off enough, they can swing
Speaker 10: back to the right, and we were starting to see
Speaker 10: that in the polls there, and I think that was
Speaker 10: the last straw or Pelosi, like, we know, we kind
Speaker 10: of think at least we're going to lose the White
Speaker 10: House at this point, given the way that that race
Speaker 10: has been handled, But we're not going to lose the
Speaker 10: House and the Senate too.
Speaker 3: We cannot give the Republicans a.
Speaker 10: Blank slate, blank check to go in there and enact
Speaker 10: Trump's agenda. And I think that's why she was willing
Speaker 10: to stick the dagger in and twist.
Speaker 1: Now when you die is just breaking in. The US
Speaker 1: will find out in the next twenty four hours or
Speaker 1: so whether Kamala Harris has any opposition, but it looks
Speaker 1: like the vice president. Well, firstly, she's inherited the support
Speaker 1: of Biden. That matters because all of the delegates going
Speaker 1: to the convention previously we're loyal to Joe Biden, so
Speaker 1: theoretically would continue to be loyal to his endorsement. What
Speaker 1: do you think of Harris as the Democratic nominee and
Speaker 1: potential president?
Speaker 3: Where to begin? Let me start Kamala Harris style.
Speaker 10: You see, there's this thing, it's called the presidency, and
Speaker 10: it's even bigger and more important than the vice presidency.
Speaker 10: You see, and when the person running for the presidency
Speaker 10: decides not to run, the vice presidential candidate is most
Speaker 10: likely to step into those shows.
Speaker 3: That person who.
Speaker 10: Talks like that is not going to be our next president. No,
Speaker 10: we have gone almost two hundred and fifty years without
Speaker 10: a female president. Two hundred and fifty Is that because
Speaker 10: we never had a strong female leader. We never had
Speaker 10: anybody strong enough, savvy enough, confident enough to inspire the
Speaker 10: electorate to actually pull.
Speaker 3: The lever for her.
Speaker 10: No, No, it's it's we have had such leaders. It's
Speaker 10: just the country is used to things a certain way,
Speaker 10: and it's going to take a very special female candidate
Speaker 10: to make them see it a different way. I don't
Speaker 10: like this reality, but I see this reality and she
Speaker 10: is not it. I'm sorry to be ad hominin, but
Speaker 10: she's a fool. She's not a smart person. If you
Speaker 10: listen to her, as I have now for so many years,
Speaker 10: you glean that she is faking it. She thinks she's
Speaker 10: Oprah with her attempts at profundity that never land. We
Speaker 10: will be unburdened by what has been.
Speaker 3: It's it's her only line. She says it all the time.
Speaker 10: Her other line is about ven diagrams, which is equally stupid,
Speaker 10: and her attempt to take complex topics and reduce them
Speaker 10: down into small, digestible bits is the most offensive to
Speaker 10: me because that happens to be what I do for
Speaker 10: a living, what you Paul do for a living, and
Speaker 10: it does actually take some skill and some research and
Speaker 10: some knowledge. You have to learn it forward and backward
Speaker 10: before you can explain it in a very easy to
Speaker 10: understand way to your audience. She doesn't get it. It
Speaker 10: doesn't require speaking to people like therefore, but that's her
Speaker 10: level of communication. So that person's not going to be
Speaker 10: the first female president. It's not going to happen. I
Speaker 10: would bet everything I have on it.
Speaker 1: So you lie to Megan Totien.
Speaker 3: Next way, my pleasure. Thanks for having me, Megan Keilly.
Speaker 1: Then you can find a show on YouTube or on
Speaker 1: serious exam in the US, say tomorrow. The Like to
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