Speaker 1: From the sky in center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 1: You know mate, Thank you, Sherry, come on into the
Speaker 1: man Cave. There is a massive storm that is over
Speaker 1: Sydney right now, but I'm sad to say that in
Speaker 1: the lead up to it a man has due three
Speaker 1: hours west of Sydney and Cara as a tree fell
Speaker 1: on his car. Believe the man was in his eighties.
Speaker 1: If you are anywhere near it, please take care, be
Speaker 1: safe and do all of the people that will be
Speaker 1: out and about, from the sees to the fire brigades
Speaker 1: and all of the emergency services, thank you for what
Speaker 1: you do in these times that are quite difficult. But
Speaker 1: big storm out of Melbourne a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: Plenty in Queensland, but right now the concern is in
Speaker 1: and around New South Wales, particularly Sydney copying an absolute
Speaker 1: thumping right now. This thing is a real squall with
Speaker 1: a lot of wind, a lot of rain, a lot
Speaker 1: of lightning with it as well. So hopefully well everyone
Speaker 1: comes out the other side in the meantime. Plenty to
Speaker 1: do tonight on the show, including no Sorooks. No left
Speaker 1: his first week back. I'm being kind making sure that
Speaker 1: you have friendly faces around you, including the Wonderfu brom Bishop,
Speaker 1: who is back on the show doing what she does best,
Speaker 1: which is putting people in their place, taking names, all
Speaker 1: the rest of it. The carry out a champ as
Speaker 1: always will be here and she'll be here in a
Speaker 1: moment of two's time. I've got a bit more data
Speaker 1: that's going to tell you about how Peter Dutton is
Speaker 1: starting to win the start of the political year. Now
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you he's going to win the election,
Speaker 1: but wait till I compare and contrast, and we've actually
Speaker 1: got some data about this about how he's going at
Speaker 1: the start of the year versus of course each way
Speaker 1: out by. There's also more information about rental properties and
Speaker 1: somewhere other than Melbourne is the second most expensive place
Speaker 1: to get a rental property in Australia after Sydney. We'll
Speaker 1: get to all of that in a moment or two's time,
Speaker 1: but first we are six days away from a change
Speaker 1: of government in the United States, just six days away
Speaker 1: from when the President of the United States goes from
Speaker 1: bumbling Biden to a bloke who was the peak of
Speaker 1: his powers in Donald Trump. Now you remember one of
Speaker 1: the things that we learned out of the American election
Speaker 1: was that the polls are not ohright, gospel. Remember how
Speaker 1: we were told Uphill and down Dale that it was
Speaker 1: close and super close, and even I was telling you
Speaker 1: at times things were super close. The reality, of course,
Speaker 1: he won the popular vote, he won all of the
Speaker 1: swing states, and he is back with a thumping majority
Speaker 1: in the Senate and control of the House as well. Well,
Speaker 1: what did the book he say about the battle here
Speaker 1: in Australia first week that we're back on the air,
Speaker 1: first real week of the election season as we get
Speaker 1: ready for one that will happen in the next couple
Speaker 1: of months. Well, the battle between the Prime Minister and
Speaker 1: the alternative Prime Minister, interestingly, is one where the book
Speaker 1: is telling us currently Labor is in a world of trouble,
Speaker 1: and believe it or not, the actual favorite right now
Speaker 1: the Coalition. Let's have a look at a whole collection
Speaker 1: of the bookies that have put their numbers forward. Labor
Speaker 1: currently is two dollars ten and the Coalition is the
Speaker 1: favorite according to sports Bet at a dollar seventy two.
Speaker 1: The same margin for the people after the election will
Speaker 1: be Peter Dutton. The tob ever so slightly better for
Speaker 1: the Labor Party, but still showing that the favorite three
Speaker 1: different book is and again bookies could be wrong. Famously
Speaker 1: one of them was very wrong in twenty nineteen, but
Speaker 1: the bookies were so right in and around the American election.
Speaker 1: This is going to be my north start to push
Speaker 1: through much of the garbage that is there. Also worth
Speaker 1: noting here too is that we have a start to
Speaker 1: this election year where we have a Prime Minister who's
Speaker 1: trying to buy his way out of trouble an announcement
Speaker 1: a day millions yere billions there, and Peter Dutton who
Speaker 1: is focusing on values. Now again I've got some data
Speaker 1: for you in a second that's going to help explain
Speaker 1: how these two teams are prosecuting the early days. But
Speaker 1: while Peter Dutton is talking about big things like a
Speaker 1: National Day, how it should be enshrined in law, how
Speaker 1: councils should lose their capacity to basically do anything other
Speaker 1: than do it on the twenty sixth or don't do
Speaker 1: it at all. But the Prime Minister, he is playing
Speaker 1: a very old school game here, which is turn up
Speaker 1: somewhere and throw money at a problem. Now, Tasmania is
Speaker 1: a place where the Labor Party holds two seats. The
Speaker 1: Liberal Party holds one seat, and then an independent of
Speaker 1: course holds the other. The expectation is is that if
Speaker 1: they lose a seat like Bradden or Lyons the two
Speaker 1: that Labor currently holds, then of course things get worse
Speaker 1: for the government they move into minority, things get better
Speaker 1: for the bookie's favorite in Peter Dutton. Well, today the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister was in Tasmania announcing more money, this time Davenport,
Speaker 1: six million dollars to events that are there. Why it's
Speaker 1: a way of trying to hold on to the seat.
Speaker 1: But again does anyone remember this announcement in a couple
Speaker 1: of days time. This is on top of the more
Speaker 1: than ten b four billion dollars which have announced thus far.
Speaker 1: When it comes to the NBN or roads, and as
Speaker 1: we went through in chapter and verse last night, when
Speaker 1: it comes to priorities. While I have no doubt that
Speaker 1: things are needed in Davenport or Nara as they have been,
Speaker 1: and certainly the Bruce Highway which should have been dealt
Speaker 1: with years agott alone three years ago, let alone five
Speaker 1: years into the future, we live in a country where
Speaker 1: as I told you last night, one in three people
Speaker 1: are struggling at the moment as parents to pay for
Speaker 1: their school costs, and people are now turning to maxing
Speaker 1: out their credit card or going to the old fashioned
Speaker 1: bank of grandma or grandpa to try to find a
Speaker 1: way to pay for those school expenses. If the Prime
Speaker 1: minister's got six million dollars to try to hold in
Speaker 1: a marginal seed, surely he's got millions of dollars to
Speaker 1: take care of the charity sector. I'm going to keep
Speaker 1: talking about this. They should be cracking off hundreds of
Speaker 1: millions of dollars for the charity sector that's taken care
Speaker 1: of people right now. They have to be making it
Speaker 1: easier for the people who are the parents of the
Speaker 1: kids who are financially struggling to make sure that they
Speaker 1: do not fall behind in confidence or in any other
Speaker 1: way when they go to school. Prime Minister, it's up
Speaker 1: to you. You can hold a press conference today with an
Speaker 1: announcement nobody will remember, or you can do something that
Speaker 1: will actually make people's lives better. But I mentioned before
Speaker 1: about the data part of this, and you know that
Speaker 1: when it comes to this show, I try to show
Speaker 1: you the information, the data from a neutral source. And
Speaker 1: yes there's a lot of opinion that I will put
Speaker 1: in and around it. Put simply, the data are either
Speaker 1: the bricks of the argument. The mortar is the opinion,
Speaker 1: and hopefully it becomes a wall on which lies crash
Speaker 1: to go all John Dutton on you as I quickly
Speaker 1: remember that show Yellowstone. Well. Interestingly, today the Australian Financial
Speaker 1: Review pulled out the speeches, every speech, every press conference
Speaker 1: which has been made by both the Prime Minister and
Speaker 1: by Peter Dutton since the start of this election year,
Speaker 1: and they put it through the old computer and they
Speaker 1: used a bit of AI. Here. AI analysis shows that
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister most frequently is using adjectives to pain
Speaker 1: a more positive vision, including words such as good, important,
Speaker 1: and successful to describe his government. Meantime, Peter Dutton says
Speaker 1: week in competent, the worst, and shameful are among his
Speaker 1: most colorful and repeated adjectives to describe both the Prime
Speaker 1: Minister and the government as the weakest since federation, while
Speaker 1: describing himself as a strong leader who would fix the problems. Now,
Speaker 1: let me explain why this is particularly interesting, because you see,
Speaker 1: if the Prime Minister is to win this election, then
Speaker 1: Australia has to believe that he is a government that
Speaker 1: has made the country better in the past three years,
Speaker 1: no evidence of that, and if he was to be
Speaker 1: given even more power into the future then of course
Speaker 1: he would continue to build the narrative. But the reality
Speaker 1: is that Australians are much closer to where Peter Dutton is,
Speaker 1: which is why the bookies are suggesting that there may
Speaker 1: well be a shock result at the upcoming federal election.
Speaker 1: In fact, let me show you this here because there's
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of poles that are worth showing you,
Speaker 1: a whole collection of poles that show here about the
Speaker 1: right and wrong direction of the country. Now, this one
Speaker 1: is from the Roy Morgan people and it came out
Speaker 1: this week that just thirty and a half percent of
Speaker 1: people believe the country is headed in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Fifty four percent of people say it's headed in the
Speaker 1: wrong direction. That number of thirty in a bit is
Speaker 1: basically the primary vote of the Labor Party right now.
Speaker 1: But let me show you some more here as we
Speaker 1: have a look at our next slide from the Essential
Speaker 1: Research Group. These are the people who come out and
Speaker 1: the Guardian poles will often be there. You can see
Speaker 1: that the right track for the country is just thirty
Speaker 1: one percent, basically the same as the previous one, and
Speaker 1: the wrong track is currently at fifty one percent. But
Speaker 1: then there is this one that I really have to
Speaker 1: show you, which is, can you name one thing that
Speaker 1: the federal government has done to make your life financially better?
Speaker 1: Seventy three percent of people can't say. Seventy three percent
Speaker 1: of people can't name one thing, not too little, too late,
Speaker 1: tax cards, not all of the other stuff that they
Speaker 1: claim has made massive changes when it comes to cost
Speaker 1: of living. And when you actually break this down even more,
Speaker 1: let me show you this. All voters seventy three percent
Speaker 1: can't name a single thing the government's done. Labor voters
Speaker 1: thirty six percent of them say, you can name something,
Speaker 1: but that's the best the government goes. We're back that
Speaker 1: seventy eight percent of people who didn't want this government
Speaker 1: in the first place, seventy percent of people who give
Speaker 1: their preferences to this government, seventy nine percent of people
Speaker 1: who vote one nation. This is an indication that their
Speaker 1: preferences most likely go back to the Liberal party like
Speaker 1: they did in twenty nineteen. Liberal win versus what happened
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two and others which can be everything
Speaker 1: from the Libertarian through to the Teals seventy six percent
Speaker 1: also something that shows you about who is winning the
Speaker 1: early days and while the Prime Minister might be out
Speaker 1: there trying to do the lefty Jedi mind trick that
Speaker 1: everything's okay and he's a builder and your life is
Speaker 1: better than it was three years ago, when you know
Speaker 1: your life has been much worse over the past three years,
Speaker 1: and why would you reward the people who remember promised
Speaker 1: to make it better, not in the Nevan never they
Speaker 1: promised in twenty twenty two. Well we know that in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three they took fifteen hundred dollars off ten
Speaker 1: million working Australians and things have got worse through of
Speaker 1: course twenty twenty four, and now as we move our
Speaker 1: way to twenty twenty five, there have been twelve interest
Speaker 1: rate rises under this mod and even if the Reserve
Speaker 1: Bank does what fingers crossed we all hope it does
Speaker 1: in the upcoming meeting of pulling it back, you've still
Speaker 1: got the effective pressure of those three years and a
Speaker 1: dozen interest rate rises, which were not clear by the
Speaker 1: time of the election. But again some of the analysis
Speaker 1: that was done by the Financial Review today was the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister loves talking about himself myself man may. In fact,
Speaker 1: they actually counted it, and God loved them for doing so,
Speaker 1: because they saved me the trouble. Right. The data shows
Speaker 1: that mister Abnezi has used first person pronouns such as
Speaker 1: me or my more frequently than mister Dunden. In fact,
Speaker 1: four hundred and forty three times since the start of
Speaker 1: the year he has said I, me or my compared
Speaker 1: to forty sorry, just eighty two that are there for
Speaker 1: the alternative Prime Minister, which brings us to the analysis
Speaker 1: again inside this article. But a person who will be
Speaker 1: a guest on this program once the tennis is done
Speaker 1: and we get up into the full run towards the election.
Speaker 1: Sunday Nights, by the way, is going to be a
Speaker 1: particular focus when Costa Mars and Michael Kroger are going
Speaker 1: to get right into the state of the race. And
Speaker 1: I don't just mean the polls, I mean the stuff
Speaker 1: behind the polls, the machine. It's going to be a
Speaker 1: big thing Sunday Night, each and every Sunday night here
Speaker 1: on Paul Murray Life. Well. Costamars, of course is a
Speaker 1: former Labor pollster. He's helped the teals out in the past,
Speaker 1: but he runs a polling a mob called Redbridge. This
Speaker 1: is what he says about the slogans. At the moment,
Speaker 1: Labor has a lot more work to do to make
Speaker 1: sure that its slogan works. Kind of the same as
Speaker 1: my view, which is, if the opinion polls are all
Speaker 1: saying the country said in the wrong direction, a government saying,
Speaker 1: send us back, because we've put it in the right direction.
Speaker 1: They're only where about a third of the country is.
Speaker 1: What's missing is meaningful policy action. The PM just doesn't
Speaker 1: have the ballast being the policy record or reform. But
Speaker 1: simply that's a polite way of saying nothing got better
Speaker 1: in the past three years. What can he point to? Yes,
Speaker 1: he can point to some rather significant legislation when it
Speaker 1: comes to things like public housing. He can point to
Speaker 1: two little too late tax pads. But remember the people
Speaker 1: most in need of those with the people who got
Speaker 1: the least people on forty five thousand dollars a year,
Speaker 1: we're getting fourteen dollars a week. Oh but we've done
Speaker 1: something about power bills, wasn't the promise? By twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five they'd be down by two hundred and seventy five dollars. Well,
Speaker 1: of course they have gone way up, and inflation is
Speaker 1: only being artificially held down by government handouts that mean
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars a year, or more importantly, twenty five
Speaker 1: dollars a month is being knocked off the bills, not
Speaker 1: by reducing the cost of the electricity, but just by
Speaker 1: hanging the electricity companies to knock twenty five dollars a
Speaker 1: month off your bill. Meantime, mister Samaris says about Peter
Speaker 1: Dutton and his start to the year, his messaging, how
Speaker 1: his messaging matches up with the poles, matches up with
Speaker 1: the bookies, and matches up with the mood of the country.
Speaker 1: The same part of the country that turned on the
Speaker 1: Liberal Party just three years ago, that turned on the
Speaker 1: Labor Party, what twelve years ago that turned on John
Speaker 1: Howard back in two thousand and seven, that sliver of
Speaker 1: Australia five to ten percent that flipped one way or
Speaker 1: the other. Dutton is tapping into an underlying sentiment that
Speaker 1: the country seems rudderless and Albinizi is not a strong leader.
Speaker 1: The mindset that the next five to ten years are
Speaker 1: very uncertain and in those times you need a strong leader.
Speaker 1: Dutton slogan, which of course is putting the country back
Speaker 1: on track, capitalizes on a lot of low hanging fruit.
Speaker 1: But as always, my friends in the press galery, oh
Speaker 1: don't they love this program and have for the better
Speaker 1: part of fifteen years now. Occasionally there are some exceptions,
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry to throw them all in together, but
Speaker 1: generally speaking sort of, you know, seven out of ten
Speaker 1: are all cheering for this government to find its mojor.
Speaker 1: And while I am an opinion host and you expect
Speaker 1: opinion to come from me, it is weird when people
Speaker 1: who claim to be independent reporters tell us pretty obviously
Speaker 1: which side they're going to be batting for now. A
Speaker 1: significant figure in news over at Channel ten is Hugh Rimington,
Speaker 1: formerly over at Channel nine, and he's sort of in
Speaker 1: and out of the political sphere at the moment. But
Speaker 1: he decided not to write on the ten website but
Speaker 1: to write on the turbul Times today giving free advice
Speaker 1: to the Prime Minister about how he could save his backside.
Speaker 1: Why would any independent journalist be sitting and telling one
Speaker 1: side of politics how to win, unless, of course, they
Speaker 1: want that team to win. Anthony Albineazi couldn't sell a
Speaker 1: schooner to a shearer, and there's plenty of criticism in
Speaker 1: the article, but he says, what would Nick Xenophon do?
Speaker 1: Put simply more stunts, and that's the way that he
Speaker 1: would be able to connect with people, and presumably if
Speaker 1: he was able to connect with people, then his message
Speaker 1: would start to work and he would win an election. Again,
Speaker 1: I never hide that this is an opinion program. It's
Speaker 1: been loud, proud and strong for as long as we've
Speaker 1: been on the air and all my life before and after.
Speaker 1: But these people are the ones who look down on
Speaker 1: programs like this, who look down on viewers like you
Speaker 1: who have strong opinions, who look down on this channel
Speaker 1: for having strong opinions. Once the sun starts to disappear
Speaker 1: at five o'clock in the afternoon, all the way through
Speaker 1: to reader at eleven o'clock. But that's a taste of
Speaker 1: the people who are going to be well the independent
Speaker 1: arbiters of what the news of the day is. One
Speaker 1: who's telling you over a Channel ten that he'd really
Speaker 1: like a closer fight, because God forbid, Australian's got rid
Speaker 1: of the greatest prime minister of all time. Now, there
Speaker 1: was one message also that came out of the American election,
Speaker 1: which well we knew from mid July, was how Donald
Speaker 1: Trump was going to win, and it was his response
Speaker 1: to the assassination attempts. But more importantly, fight fight, fight, fight,
Speaker 1: fight fight. Don't muck around, don't bugg a rise around
Speaker 1: on the edges, don't suck up to the usual people
Speaker 1: who are always going to have a crack at you,
Speaker 1: take a position and defend it. Well. Interestingly, we know
Speaker 1: that when it comes to this election coming up in
Speaker 1: just a few months time, that one of the x
Speaker 1: factors that Labor desperately needs to be able to return
Speaker 1: itself to power are their mates in the Greens. Now,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that from every now and then they
Speaker 1: like to pretend that they are fighting with each other,
Speaker 1: Labor will lose any shred of environment and credibility it
Speaker 1: still thinks it has.
Speaker 2: In some cases it's just immaturity and spite from the
Speaker 2: Green spokesperson.
Speaker 1: Prime Minister is so desperate to detract and distract from
Speaker 1: Labour's complicity and.
Speaker 3: Backing of the invasion.
Speaker 1: Enough is enough, But what a lovely fake fight because
Speaker 1: when it comes down to the existential question of who
Speaker 1: do you believe should end up in Parliament, the Labor
Speaker 1: Party says the next best option after them is the Greens,
Speaker 1: and the Greens always say the next best option after
Speaker 1: them is the Labor Party. Preferences are the only reason
Speaker 1: that the Labor Party is able to defeat the coalition.
Speaker 1: Big question is and the scenario here, which will inevitably
Speaker 1: be playing itself out at the next election, is that
Speaker 1: those Greens preferences, despite all the fights, will of course
Speaker 1: head their way towards the government. But an example of fight, fight, fight, win,
Speaker 1: win win. Bugger what the cheersquad in the press gallery
Speaker 1: is giving its free advice to Albo about how to
Speaker 1: refine his mojo. Julian Lisa has decided to put it
Speaker 1: right front and center that there is an existential threat
Speaker 1: to the country right now and as social cohesion, and
Speaker 1: it is the Greens. Now it's not just on the
Speaker 1: matters of antisemitism, but principally that is his driving force here.
Speaker 1: But we also know the economic policy where they don't
Speaker 1: know the difference between turnover and profit, let alone social
Speaker 1: policy and all the rest of it. That these are
Speaker 1: all reasons why the Labour Party has to put the
Speaker 1: Greens last, and if they don't put the Greens last,
Speaker 1: then they are endorsing the worst of the Greens, because
Speaker 1: if in every single seat in the country, the Labour
Speaker 1: Party thinks that the next best thing to them is
Speaker 1: the Greens, rather than viewing the Greens as the threat
Speaker 1: they claim them to be, meaning you would put their
Speaker 1: preferences last in order to guarantee as few of them
Speaker 1: get elected to Parliament as possible. Well, that would of
Speaker 1: course require a lot more stone and the Prime Minister
Speaker 1: has thankfully, people in the opposition thankfully, specifically people like
Speaker 1: Julian Lisa don't care. They say this is about morality.
Speaker 1: Most important thing that we can do is actually to
Speaker 1: change the government of the country at the coming federal election,
Speaker 1: because this government has been appalling away from politics. But
Speaker 1: it will be a major factor in and around the
Speaker 1: election because remember, the Greens think that they're going to
Speaker 1: be able to overtake the Labor Party and still use
Speaker 1: their preferences to be able to win more seats, and
Speaker 1: largely through the problems around renting. Remember a third of
Speaker 1: the country owns a property, a third of the country's
Speaker 1: paying off a property. A third of the country is renting,
Speaker 1: so presumably they are renting from somebody who is also
Speaker 1: trying to pay off for property. So in my view,
Speaker 1: at least half, probably sixty percent of people are connected
Speaker 1: to the mortgage rates. And as we know, because we
Speaker 1: invite too many people into the country, when there's not
Speaker 1: enough houses in the country, demand for rent goes up.
Speaker 1: It means the cost of it goes through the roof.
Speaker 1: It means that peaceeople who are barely hanging on start
Speaker 1: to fall into that category of about three million people
Speaker 1: who are this close to homelessness. But of course it's
Speaker 1: not as important as the beautification of Davenport to hold
Speaker 1: on to the marginal seat, or the beautification of the
Speaker 1: water sides of Nara to hold on to the seat,
Speaker 1: or the three billion dollars for the NBN, or the
Speaker 1: billions of dollars for the Bruce Highway that it should
Speaker 1: have already been spent. Instead, you've got to vote for
Speaker 1: us again to somehow break a promise yet again. Well,
Speaker 1: we got an insight today about the median and average
Speaker 1: rent for both houses and for units. If you're somebody
Speaker 1: who's paid off your house or is paying off a
Speaker 1: house right now. It might shock you to know exactly
Speaker 1: where the rent is in the country, because you see
Speaker 1: in Sydney the typical rent for a house is eight
Speaker 1: hundred and eleven dollars a week a unit seven hundred
Speaker 1: and ten dollars a week. It's cheaper in Melbourne where
Speaker 1: it's six hundred thirty three dollars for a medium rent
Speaker 1: for a house renting for a unit five hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty six. But what about Perth. Perth right now is
Speaker 1: more expensive when it comes to the median rental values
Speaker 1: than Melbourne at six hundred and sixty five dollars. To
Speaker 1: have a look in a simpler way is the illustrations
Speaker 1: of how rent has increased over the years in every
Speaker 1: capital city, where it has particularly spiked in high population
Speaker 1: areas like Sydney where yes, the million people that have
Speaker 1: been brought in by this government, many which end up
Speaker 1: in places like Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. But you can
Speaker 1: also see basically everywhere when it comes to a house
Speaker 1: has gone through the roof when it comes to units
Speaker 1: where you can forget about it because as you can
Speaker 1: see right there, over the past couple of years and
Speaker 1: it ain't COVID. It's the massive immigration that has happened
Speaker 1: post COVID, the out of control immigration that this government
Speaker 1: has demand because it makes the federal budget look good
Speaker 1: and they can say they've got a surplus. But where
Speaker 1: do the people live? Whatever, we'll get around, we'll work
Speaker 1: it out later. All of this is part of the picture,
Speaker 1: the immigration picture that in part will be discussed at
Speaker 1: the upcoming election. And rightly so. Now this one was
Speaker 1: in the inbox yesterday, but I had to take a
Speaker 1: moment to talk about how, just ever so slightly, the
Speaker 1: cracks are appearing in the woke topia of Jacinta Allen
Speaker 1: in Victoria. Now we know that there's a new opposition leader,
Speaker 1: we know that there's some polling, we know there's an
Speaker 1: awful lot of people with fingers crossed. But you are
Speaker 1: in a world of pain when you are having the
Speaker 1: very police officers that you used to keep people in
Speaker 1: their homes or fire rubber bullets of people who protested
Speaker 1: the actions of the government, when they are now out
Speaker 1: and about an openly protesting and disrupting the government. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: the acting Premier Ben Carroll was delivering a press conference.
Speaker 1: He was doing so ahead of a by election that
Speaker 1: will be taking place in Victoria relatively soon. So the
Speaker 1: police decided, you know what, we're going to make our
Speaker 1: presence heard. We're going to make it seen, We're going
Speaker 1: to make it felt. And it made the six pm news,
Speaker 1: meaning the pay battle. The government is losing.
Speaker 2: A Werribee press conference gate crushed by police. We've quick
Speaker 2: come to realize that the only place the government's probably
Speaker 2: going to listen to them is in the electorate of Werribee.
Speaker 2: State government staff scramble to shift the media event.
Speaker 4: We're going to move down that way into this garden.
Speaker 5: To avoid the flashing lights, but they couldn't drown out
Speaker 5: the buzzing, an industrial action stunt designed to get the
Speaker 5: acting premier's attention.
Speaker 1: Good on them all the strengthen ume we are pro
Speaker 1: cop on this show. Pro police. They are the people
Speaker 1: who run towards danger when any and every person who
Speaker 1: is in the public service, or any and everyone who's
Speaker 1: in the Parliament would run the other way. Or if
Speaker 1: they did run towards danger, of course they demand a
Speaker 1: camera was there with them. Police, of course do their
Speaker 1: work all day, every day and deserve as much money
Speaker 1: as they want because literally they put themselves on the
Speaker 1: line to make sure that when something does go wrong,
Speaker 1: when you and I have the worst days of our lives,
Speaker 1: that somebody does turn up, and they, along with the
Speaker 1: rest of the emergency services, in my view, they deserve
Speaker 1: all the support that they demand from a government. Some
Speaker 1: sad news came around today for those of us who
Speaker 1: were eighties kids. Simon Townsend, the host, producer, executive producer,
Speaker 1: owner and the creative force behind Wonder World, Well, he
Speaker 1: passed away today. He had a battle with cancer seventy nine. Meantime,
Speaker 1: at the ABC, they've accidentally worked something out, which is
Speaker 1: that the cost of energy is going up, not just
Speaker 1: your power bills, but your gas bills. And if your
Speaker 1: gas bill and your power bill goes up, that might
Speaker 1: make it difficult if you're a factory and you're trying
Speaker 1: to make things. It might be really hard if you're
Speaker 1: a small business and you require things like you know,
Speaker 1: ovens to cook bread. Rich in resources, but Australia's energy
Speaker 1: costs have tripled and manufacturers are hurting. Oh thanks Scoop.
Speaker 1: Electricity prices have gone up threefold in the past ten years.
Speaker 1: Gas prices have gone up fourfold. According to the steelmaker OURCA.
Speaker 1: You know, I also like talking about other people's money,
Speaker 1: i e. How they peddle it up against the wall.
Speaker 1: Under the previous government in Queensland, they were experts at it.
Speaker 1: Have a look at the Courier Mail story of the
Speaker 1: past couple of days, which tells us about the types
Speaker 1: of money that people are on right now to run
Speaker 1: things like Treasury or Energy Queensland, or power Link or
Speaker 1: Queensland Rail. It's anywhere from seven hundred thousand dollars a
Speaker 1: year to one point twenty five million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Can some premiere somewhere or some politicians somewhere say that
Speaker 1: no one who runs an agency in the public service
Speaker 1: will be paid a dollar more than the premier or
Speaker 1: Prime minister because the bloke who currently is running Queensland
Speaker 1: Treasury is earning twice what the Prime minister does, let
Speaker 1: alone the premiere. Another perfect example about fight fight, fight,
Speaker 1: and what attracts many of us to the Trump way
Speaker 1: of doing things. Knowing that yes, bull in a china
Speaker 1: shop is going to make break a few things, but
Speaker 1: Jesus gives you an opportunity to rebuild things in the
Speaker 1: better way. And I don't mean build back better, but
Speaker 1: a perfect example of many of the ways that Trump
Speaker 1: has frankly done well done, Polly and done even better
Speaker 1: again is crash or crashed through. And the bloke you
Speaker 1: can see on you Telly right now is a guy
Speaker 1: called Pete Hegseth. He's formerly a Fox News but more importantly,
Speaker 1: he's a graduate of Harvard and even more importantly, he
Speaker 1: has spent many years of his life fighting in the
Speaker 1: defense forces of the United States. He is the pick
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump wants to put in charge of the
Speaker 1: entire military. And the left he's hated because he's from outside.
Speaker 1: Is a threat to the system. And don't you love it?
Speaker 1: When it's hunt to Biden, it's nothing to see here.
Speaker 1: But when it's a Republican, let's get down and dirty.
Speaker 1: But you acknowledge it, Fwedge that you cheated on your wife,
Speaker 1: and that you cheated on the woman by whom you
Speaker 1: had just fathered a child. You have been met at that.
Speaker 1: I will allow your words to speak for them. You're
Speaker 1: not retracting that today. That's good. Oh and if that
Speaker 1: wasn't enough, apparently it's a piss pot.
Speaker 2: Do you know that being drunk at work is prohibited
Speaker 2: for service members under the UCMJ.
Speaker 1: Senator. Those are multiple false, anonymous reports peddled by NBCDS
Speaker 1: directly to the dozens of men and women at Fox. Sorry,
Speaker 1: a little carried away, but you get the point. They're
Speaker 1: focused on the drinking the front of the personal life.
Speaker 1: When it's Hunt of Barden or anyone else. Dis nothing
Speaker 1: to see here. When Joe Biden didn't recognize one of
Speaker 1: his grandchildren because it was political, another schnuthna sea here
Speaker 1: when it's pet Hezeth all the way in. But he
Speaker 1: stood there, took it, never lost his call, and pushed back.
Speaker 1: He showed the courage under fire that clearly he showed
Speaker 1: when he was part of Iraq and Afghanistan, and clearly
Speaker 1: the sorts of metal that you would need when you
Speaker 1: are taking on the entrenched failures in the defense bureaucracy
Speaker 1: and defense industries in the United States. A Republican was
Speaker 1: able to get this out on CNN before, of course,
Speaker 1: they changed the subject. Well, in short, I think Pete
Speaker 1: Hegseth kicked our asses today. I mean it wasn't even close.
Speaker 1: They didn't lay a glove. But let's not say that
Speaker 1: this was not a day where there was not Donald
Speaker 1: Trump newsed just six days out from becoming the President
Speaker 1: of the United States once again forty five coming back
Speaker 1: as forty seven. Well we know that of course. As
Speaker 1: he heads back to the White House, one of the
Speaker 1: things that he will be bringing with him is an
Speaker 1: absolute love of diet coke. Apparently drinks it like I
Speaker 1: drink non diet coke, so much so that has this
Speaker 1: coke is a way of probably sucking up but still
Speaker 1: trying to get on the right side of the President
Speaker 1: is now going to be making official presidential level diet coke.
Speaker 1: So just like they have the jacket with the logo
Speaker 1: on it, just like they have the logo in front
Speaker 1: of the lecturn, he will now have his own exclusive,
Speaker 1: special version of diet coke. I love it just because
Speaker 1: of an onnoier lefty soft drinks orange man pete hegseeth
Speaker 1: ah more in a second, No locks, no lefties, let's
Speaker 1: get into it problem. Bishop back where she belongs on
Speaker 1: your Telly. Next, Welcome back to the man cad Let's class.
Speaker 1: This join up a little bit with the carry out
Speaker 1: a Champ. Welcome back the lovely Bromwin Bishop from the
Speaker 1: Center of Independent Studies. The equally lovely fray Leech love
Speaker 1: to see you both all right. So, as I explained,
Speaker 1: we can see how they want to start the year
Speaker 1: both sides of politics right now. You can see the
Speaker 1: scenario where Peter Dutton's trying to go broad values, also
Speaker 1: where the majority of the country is, which is that
Speaker 1: we're on the wrong track. Prime Minister is sort of
Speaker 1: basically doing what you would do in the middle of
Speaker 1: the thirty three days, which is turning up somewhere with
Speaker 1: an announcement hyperlocal, hoping that somehow people go millions of
Speaker 1: dollars for Davenport. I will now officially completely forget the
Speaker 1: past three years of your government. Here he was in
Speaker 1: Tasmania trying to shore up the two seats that Labor
Speaker 1: have there.
Speaker 2: This grant here of six million dollars for the revitalization
Speaker 2: of Devonport's CBD by delivering Stage three of the Living
Speaker 2: City project is a great example of the comwell backing
Speaker 2: local communities. This has been developed from the ground up,
Speaker 2: not something that's been developed in Canberras.
Speaker 1: But the bloke from Campbell turn up to tell you
Speaker 1: how good he is because he's using his oh that's
Speaker 1: your money to make it happen, So Bromwin, obviously we
Speaker 1: know that you think that the relations on the right
Speaker 1: track at the moment. The bookie seemed to suggest it,
Speaker 1: some parts of the Poles seem to suggest it. But
Speaker 1: what is it about the way the Prime Minister has
Speaker 1: started that gives you an insight about how he plans
Speaker 1: to campaign between now and when he calls it?
Speaker 3: Desperation is a good word.
Speaker 5: And if I might say, you know, reminds me a
Speaker 5: bit of two thousand and seven, Petixillo and John Hard
Speaker 5: spent like madmen, and we know how that edited up.
Speaker 5: The Prime Minister losty seat. So spending really isn't the
Speaker 5: answer if you haven't been delivering it and you've been
Speaker 5: seen to be in error in everything you've done or
Speaker 5: a majority of things you've done, Spending is not going
Speaker 5: to buy your forgiveness. And when I watched the sheer
Speaker 5: duplicity of saying, I'll give money to clean up the
Speaker 5: Macquarie Harbor to sort of help the salmon industry, but
Speaker 5: I won't tell Tanya Plibosey that she's got to make
Speaker 5: a decision and save the industry, not destroy it.
Speaker 1: Dare I say each way Albo of it all, it's
Speaker 1: like it's baked into the cake. Freyer again. I just think,
Speaker 1: and I was saying this before this fired up first showback,
Speaker 1: which is that I don't want another election of politicians
Speaker 1: turning up and announcing, you know, small amounts of money
Speaker 1: six million, of course in anyone's life, huge but small
Speaker 1: amounts of money in terms of the federal budget, as
Speaker 1: a way of just having an excuse to have a
Speaker 1: press conference. They don't need the announcement to have the
Speaker 1: press conference, local candidates, all the rest of it. And
Speaker 1: I get that there's all of these subterraneal reasons apparently
Speaker 1: while you make these local announcements. But if all you
Speaker 1: see is a government where seventy plus percent of people
Speaker 1: can't name a single thing that they've done to make
Speaker 1: your life better, but you're turning up saying here, I
Speaker 1: am here, I am with the sack full of goodies.
Speaker 1: No one believes the.
Speaker 4: Goodies, right, So true, and I think what we've seen
Speaker 4: with this government now, it's as Bronwan said, it's complete desperation.
Speaker 4: And they have no other policy like, they have no ideas.
Speaker 4: There is no economic reform on the table, there is
Speaker 4: no tax reform, there's no, nothing. It's just empty. It's vacuous,
Speaker 4: like Albo and his entire leadership. But that's what it is.
Speaker 4: So all they're left with are these micro election commitments,
Speaker 4: basically trying to pork barrel the electorate into forgetting three years.
Speaker 4: But I don't think it's going to work because we
Speaker 4: have had the worst decline in living standards in fifty years,
Speaker 4: twenty one months of consecutive per capita recession. Australians will
Speaker 4: not forget that we are being left behind the worst
Speaker 4: decline in living standards in the OECD. And now we're
Speaker 4: caught in this toxic cycle where we've had a government
Speaker 4: that spend an extra three hundred and forty seven billion
Speaker 4: dollars in see election, So that's going to push up inflation,
Speaker 4: and then they're going to turn around and go, okay,
Speaker 4: so now we need more cust of living measures, so
Speaker 4: your taxes are going to be spared more, and that's
Speaker 4: going to further push up inflation. And that is the
Speaker 4: cycle that Albo has gotten our country into.
Speaker 1: And also it feels brom One that again the political
Speaker 1: class that is freely giving advice via the turmbul times
Speaker 1: you be more like Nick Xenophon. Okay, that was great
Speaker 1: for a little while, but then what was it like
Speaker 1: when he tried to run for premiere or recently. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure that didn't work out in the end. But
Speaker 1: the idea here that we're in this scenario where I
Speaker 1: think comfortable people who talk about politics for a living,
Speaker 1: Comfortable people who sort of might sit around and get
Speaker 1: engaged in the conversation about, oh, are they too conservative?
Speaker 1: What's their twenty thirty five target? Why haven't they all
Speaker 1: know the sort of frankly, the sort of greeny teal world.
Speaker 1: They're ignoring the reality. And the reality is is that
Speaker 1: of the extreme majority of the population, including it seats
Speaker 1: that have never voted liberal right, they are ignoring the
Speaker 1: actual threat on the table.
Speaker 5: I think John ca nailed it in the fin Review
Speaker 5: today when he said what people care about is what
Speaker 5: you pay at the checkout, what you pay for your petrol,
Speaker 5: what you pay for your electricity, and most importantly.
Speaker 3: What you pay for your insurance.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is.
Speaker 5: A killer when you've been going think of your own accounts,
Speaker 5: when you've been going through paying your ordinary bills, and
Speaker 5: suddenly you get the whammo of the insurance bill for
Speaker 5: your house or for your car or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: It's a whammo and it goes through the roof.
Speaker 5: And with these files in the United States, I'm afraid
Speaker 5: that's going to impact on that price again because they're
Speaker 5: part of the international insurance business or they're literally.
Speaker 1: Global companies that the Australian Office.
Speaker 5: Certainly pay for, certainly the reinsurance are but the important
Speaker 5: thing is that those four issues are what determines what
Speaker 5: disposable income.
Speaker 3: You've got every week.
Speaker 5: And worrying about whether or not Elbow's going to say
Speaker 5: I'm going to put three billion more into the NBN
Speaker 5: or whatever it is, it just doesn't wash.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't wash.
Speaker 1: I mean, also, you know they've spent a quarter of
Speaker 1: a b four billion dollars on government advertising. Right, this
Speaker 1: is where I look that the former government in its
Speaker 1: dying days, was terrible with this stuff too. I've said
Speaker 1: it for as long as I've had access to a
Speaker 1: microphone or a camera. There shouldn't be anything but emergency
Speaker 1: government advertising in the calendar year of an election. Right.
Speaker 1: The rest of it is all pretty obvious because it
Speaker 1: has consistently been abused. All right. I finally, if somebody
Speaker 1: put that into the parliament and see what happens. I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of maybe just one line bills going
Speaker 1: into the parliament to see what happens.
Speaker 5: No idea how it is possible in government to define
Speaker 5: something is essential? Yes, yes, it really is something that's
Speaker 5: quite enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. It is quite strange. But you've got
Speaker 1: this scenario where there are people who are truly struggling.
Speaker 1: Three million people this close to homelessness, right, three point
Speaker 1: four having problems with food insecurity. That number is not
Speaker 1: the forever number that's always been in Australia, right, that
Speaker 1: is the number that has been growing over the past
Speaker 1: couple of years. The census showed us years ago more
Speaker 1: homeless people than ever before in the country. Right. Sorry
Speaker 1: to be the bleeding heart, but the reality is a
Speaker 1: country that is doing as well as we are should
Speaker 1: have a charity sector that at times of surge gets
Speaker 1: the same surge as other things. What are am I
Speaker 1: wrong here?
Speaker 5: No? But I want to talk about a group that
Speaker 5: is only just starting to be talked about now that
Speaker 5: I started talking.
Speaker 3: About when I was Minister for Age Care.
Speaker 5: And they are older women yes, no superinnuation and no
Speaker 5: property yes, who have nothing and we're talking about women
Speaker 5: in their sixties and their seventies who are sleeping rough
Speaker 5: and indeed their eighties. I remember talking to one woman
Speaker 5: who was in her eighties who had no security. She
Speaker 5: had her head on a pillow by grace and favor
Speaker 5: of a local charity.
Speaker 3: And that has.
Speaker 5: Become a more pressing issue and it will continue to
Speaker 5: grow now. Once upon a time, under the age care system,
Speaker 5: we used to have a system of hostel care which
Speaker 5: was very low level and people literally could live there.
Speaker 5: They weren't in need of the sort of care that
Speaker 5: we think of these days.
Speaker 3: But that disappeared and.
Speaker 5: The bottom line is nothing has replaced it. And so
Speaker 5: this is a category of people, along with mothers with
Speaker 5: children who are fleeing domestic.
Speaker 3: Violence and live in their cars.
Speaker 5: These people are just slipping through the cracks well.
Speaker 1: And this is where I'm not going to say political
Speaker 1: opportunity because it's also the right thing to do, which
Speaker 1: is that I think that rather than every day a
Speaker 1: different announcement, a couple of million here, a couple of minion,
Speaker 1: make a big commitment in terms of the opposition to
Speaker 1: surge the charity sector to take care of these people
Speaker 1: during these particular times. Right, But there are also again
Speaker 1: that group of people who you know, they're sweet, they
Speaker 1: don't care, frankly about what's going on, or they are
Speaker 1: more concerned by sort of whatever the radio national talking
Speaker 1: point of the days. Frey, You've run in these electorates
Speaker 1: at certain times. So do you think that, again, there's
Speaker 1: elections within elections within elections within elections, right, But do
Speaker 1: you think that we are at a tipping point where
Speaker 1: some of the places that may have just three years
Speaker 1: ago not really been all that intercost of living staff
Speaker 1: that three years later are going to really just be made. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't care about your announcement about Davenport. God love Davenport,
Speaker 1: but I don't care.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I think the policies that we see the
Speaker 4: left run on, especially the last election, climate, integrity, women,
Speaker 4: the voice, those are luxury issues. Those are things you
Speaker 4: can care about when you're not worried about putting food
Speaker 4: on the table, when you're not worried about getting your kids.
Speaker 4: They're baptist, all essentials, paying for fuel, paying for all
Speaker 4: your expenses. And I think the economy has changed in
Speaker 4: such a way real disposable incomes have collapsed, cost of
Speaker 4: living is continuing to surge, productivity is declining, and so
Speaker 4: I think now those issues that people in you know, Balmain,
Speaker 4: where I ran as a state liberal candidate, where they
Speaker 4: had the luxury to care about that three years ago.
Speaker 4: Even in those areas where they do have high incomes,
Speaker 4: they are property owners, they are still feeling the pinch
Speaker 4: because mortgages are still up, you know, twenty five thousand
Speaker 4: dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Which is why. And I don't say it in a
Speaker 1: left wing right wing way, but if that's the way
Speaker 1: to understand it, for the point of the conversation, let's
Speaker 1: go there, right. I agree with Peter Dutton's announcement on
Speaker 1: a restatement on Sunday doubling the number of telehealth things.
Speaker 1: When it comes to mental health, I would think that
Speaker 1: a big sweeping thing around the charity sector helps helps,
Speaker 1: not soften, but certainly shows what your priorities are. But
Speaker 1: if ourbo's out there each and every day, to me,
Speaker 1: I just think that you're able to make a big
Speaker 1: statement and reinforce it constantly as a sign of your priorities,
Speaker 1: as opposed to announcement a day to justify the press conference.
Speaker 1: And that's what the press gallery needs because we constantly
Speaker 1: have to feed the beast.
Speaker 5: I think that's right. But also the thing I think
Speaker 5: that is strong about Peter Duttin, and he's doing extremely well,
Speaker 5: is on the so called cultural wars, loving our country,
Speaker 5: loving the symbols of our country, because at the end
Speaker 5: of the day, if you do not have a culture, you've.
Speaker 3: Got nothing to defend bloody Earth.
Speaker 5: And if we're really concerned about how Australia is going
Speaker 5: to survive in a complex world, we have to stick
Speaker 5: up for who we are, what our culture is, and
Speaker 5: then have a defense force to defend it bloody Earth.
Speaker 1: I've got some actual stats about this that I'm going
Speaker 1: to deal with tomorrow and I which is actually going
Speaker 1: to further put some data buyd the idea about why
Speaker 1: those changes have happened in favor of things like Australia
Speaker 1: because of the mix of Australia that has changed over
Speaker 1: the past ten and twenty years, where surprise, surprise, the
Speaker 1: debate about the day that certain people want to have
Speaker 1: over the past ten twenty years has been replaced by
Speaker 1: people who see the day as of course, the day
Speaker 1: they became an Australian quick break back with more move
Speaker 1: away from federal politics, and there's a big fight happening
Speaker 1: in New South Wales. When it comes to the trains,
Speaker 1: it's a labor government, it's unions and nothing is happening
Speaker 1: and commuters suffer. How would these guys fix it? You're
Speaker 1: find out next. Freileh is with the Menzies Research Center.
Speaker 1: Lovely to see you. I don't know why I kept
Speaker 1: getting it wrong. I certainly apologize. And the one off
Speaker 1: a Broman Bishop, which is all the research centers put
Speaker 1: together in her institutional knowledge. See what I did there.
Speaker 1: Of course, as a carryover champ has always here on
Speaker 1: Wednesday nights, No Sook's, no left is. Let's start off
Speaker 1: the way that we know that you like it. News
Speaker 1: applies today. There was an absolute apart from the weather,
Speaker 1: a horrible experience for meellions of people trying to move
Speaker 1: around because the train union decided, bugger, let's start pulling
Speaker 1: the workforce now in part. One of the things they're
Speaker 1: winging about is that the trains that have been built
Speaker 1: that don't need drivers might mean that some drivers may
Speaker 1: not have a job. So they want it to guarantee
Speaker 1: that a driver doesn't drive the train, but just still
Speaker 1: sits in the front of the train like they need
Speaker 1: to also a massive pay dispute. Now, this is a
Speaker 1: labor government dealing with a hard court labor union. But
Speaker 1: in fairness, I can't fault that, he said. We as
Speaker 1: government's attempts to negotiate here, they've gone soft, they've gone hard,
Speaker 1: they've threatened this, they've gone off there. But if at
Speaker 1: a moment's notice your train network is just going to
Speaker 1: shut down, how do you deal with it?
Speaker 5: Bromwin, Well, first of all, they're hoisted on their own batard.
Speaker 5: They were told during the election campaign you move the
Speaker 5: cap on wage increases and all hell will break lit.
Speaker 5: Now there is a pecking order in public sector areas,
Speaker 5: and people know I'm.
Speaker 3: Worth more than that bloke. Call that bloke or that bloke.
Speaker 5: Yes, and if the government does a negotiation and give
Speaker 5: us a higher payment to someone a bit out of
Speaker 5: the pecking order, then the others all say, well.
Speaker 3: You've got to give us up because we are are
Speaker 3: up that. It's just built into the system.
Speaker 5: Now. The problem is that it's not just one union
Speaker 5: dealing with The ETU is involved in this too. There's
Speaker 5: a proliferation of unions which are all enmissed all supporting
Speaker 5: of the government. They pay the government to get it elected,
Speaker 5: and when they get them elected, they say, well, now
Speaker 5: we want our payoff. So this intractable position, maybe the
Speaker 5: rongal Reagan solution.
Speaker 3: You sack the lot and train new ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean literally, I remember did.
Speaker 3: With air traffic controllers if you.
Speaker 1: Remember, well, yeah, I mean we remember a scenario where
Speaker 1: I think a form of transport ministry was up somewhere
Speaker 1: over summer. To be honest, I wasn't paying that much
Speaker 1: attention and said at one point they wanted to privatize
Speaker 1: things in order to just break the mixes of these
Speaker 1: particular workers. I assume labor's not planning to do that
Speaker 1: in New South Wales. But how do you fix it?
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got people that have gone an
Speaker 1: offer and now they got a better offer, but still
Speaker 1: they shut everything down, what do you do.
Speaker 4: Well, you can't cave to them, that's for sure, because
Speaker 4: all you're doing is emboldening. It's like negotiating with terrorists, right,
Speaker 4: that's rule number one. Do not negotiate with terrorists, because
Speaker 4: all you do is you tell them that it works.
Speaker 4: And so if you start, if you start caving to
Speaker 4: the rail workers. Next you'll have whoever, and then whoever,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, the whole state will
Speaker 4: be held ransom by the unions. So that's not an option.
Speaker 4: If I were in charge, i'd stop paying them, I'd
Speaker 4: try to sack them all, and then i'd accelerate the
Speaker 4: development of the metro so we can get rid of
Speaker 4: train drivers once and for all. And the idea of
Speaker 4: putting drivers on driverless metros is peak union in a
Speaker 4: sanity that everybody should condemn because it's an absurd his weirdness.
Speaker 5: It's changed there for four years not being used. They
Speaker 5: were driverless trains, and it wasn't until the government agreed
Speaker 5: to put drivers on them.
Speaker 4: So they went into some unbelievables.
Speaker 1: All right, last one here, and I want to talk
Speaker 1: about Pete Hegseth and what took place today as the
Speaker 1: bloke who would end up being in charge of the
Speaker 1: Defense Department was being put through his paces with the
Speaker 1: Democrats trying to make the most about infidelity or anonymous
Speaker 1: stuff about drinking, all the rest of it very little.
Speaker 1: And I stayed up until very very early this morning
Speaker 1: watching this very few questions about saying on how would
Speaker 1: you actually manage the department? Where would you save money?
Speaker 1: How could you instead? It basically was an attempt to
Speaker 1: scandalize this guy to such an extent that he would
Speaker 1: become toxic and Trump would drop him. Guess what, It
Speaker 1: failed because he sat there and he showed the exact
Speaker 1: way you play incoming right. You get them to go crazy,
Speaker 1: not you blowing up. You get them to blow up.
Speaker 1: And I think this is a little bit of a
Speaker 1: lesson for a lot of people. Rather than playing it
Speaker 1: safe and guaranteeing the unit room where nobody's ever going
Speaker 1: to disagree with you, work out what you're going to
Speaker 1: say when somebody pops up in the crowd and yells
Speaker 1: at your Bromwin.
Speaker 5: Well, as I said, sometimes you really rather like that
Speaker 5: because you can play off it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But I found the sheer hypocrisy of Democrats who had
Speaker 5: a president in President Clinton, who destroyed the life of
Speaker 5: Monica Lewinsky as the most powerful man in the world,
Speaker 5: seducing a nineteen year old intern, even in the alcove
Speaker 5: off the Oval office. And of course he was married
Speaker 5: to Hillary and she stood by her man, and they
Speaker 5: destroyed Monica Lewinsky, and they have the hide to come
Speaker 5: and ask another person about their behavior when he seems
Speaker 5: to have come to terms with that, and in his
Speaker 5: own testimony said, I have become a reformed person. I
Speaker 5: just found the whole thing rather this taste well, except
Speaker 5: the guy who said, how many senators.
Speaker 1: Correct the standard?
Speaker 5: You're all out, which ones of you have got divorced,
Speaker 5: and nobody's asked you to stand aside.
Speaker 3: So it was a very interesting.
Speaker 5: Thing to watch, I think, And yes, I think he
Speaker 5: came out of it quite well.
Speaker 1: To me, it's one of those things you can do
Speaker 1: it at the start, you can't necessarily do it towards
Speaker 1: the end of a government because you start to look
Speaker 1: a little off. But what did you think of the
Speaker 1: performance today?
Speaker 4: I thought he handled it really well. And it is
Speaker 4: ironic that the Democrats are now complaining about some sort
Speaker 4: of cover up, some sort of conspiracy, when they're the ones.
Speaker 4: I mean, Biden has literally just pardoned his son Hunter
Speaker 4: so he cannot be investigated for any corruption over the
Speaker 4: last ten years.
Speaker 1: So exactly, Thank you very much, do appreciate it. We'll
Speaker 1: see you all again very soon. See you tomorrow night
Speaker 1: for another additional Poul Marie Live Raw special guest will
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