WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 15 January

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<v Speaker 1>From the sky in center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 1>You know mate, Thank you, Sherry, come on into the

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<v Speaker 1>man Cave. There is a massive storm that is over

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney right now, but I'm sad to say that in

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<v Speaker 1>the lead up to it a man has due three

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<v Speaker 1>hours west of Sydney and Cara as a tree fell

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<v Speaker 1>on his car. Believe the man was in his eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are anywhere near it, please take care, be

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<v Speaker 1>safe and do all of the people that will be

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<v Speaker 1>out and about, from the sees to the fire brigades

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<v Speaker 1>and all of the emergency services, thank you for what

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<v Speaker 1>you do in these times that are quite difficult. But

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<v Speaker 1>big storm out of Melbourne a couple of days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Plenty in Queensland, but right now the concern is in

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<v Speaker 1>and around New South Wales, particularly Sydney copying an absolute

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<v Speaker 1>thumping right now. This thing is a real squall with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of wind, a lot of rain, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of lightning with it as well. So hopefully well everyone

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<v Speaker 1>comes out the other side in the meantime. Plenty to

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<v Speaker 1>do tonight on the show, including no Sorooks. No left

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<v Speaker 1>his first week back. I'm being kind making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you have friendly faces around you, including the Wonderfu brom Bishop,

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<v Speaker 1>who is back on the show doing what she does best,

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<v Speaker 1>which is putting people in their place, taking names, all

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of it. The carry out a champ as

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<v Speaker 1>always will be here and she'll be here in a

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<v Speaker 1>moment of two's time. I've got a bit more data

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to tell you about how Peter Dutton is

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<v Speaker 1>starting to win the start of the political year. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not telling you he's going to win the election,

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<v Speaker 1>but wait till I compare and contrast, and we've actually

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<v Speaker 1>got some data about this about how he's going at

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the year versus of course each way

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<v Speaker 1>out by. There's also more information about rental properties and

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere other than Melbourne is the second most expensive place

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<v Speaker 1>to get a rental property in Australia after Sydney. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to all of that in a moment or two's time,

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<v Speaker 1>but first we are six days away from a change

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<v Speaker 1>of government in the United States, just six days away

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<v Speaker 1>from when the President of the United States goes from

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<v Speaker 1>bumbling Biden to a bloke who was the peak of

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<v Speaker 1>his powers in Donald Trump. Now you remember one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we learned out of the American election

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<v Speaker 1>was that the polls are not ohright, gospel. Remember how

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<v Speaker 1>we were told Uphill and down Dale that it was

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<v Speaker 1>close and super close, and even I was telling you

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<v Speaker 1>at times things were super close. The reality, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>he won the popular vote, he won all of the

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<v Speaker 1>swing states, and he is back with a thumping majority

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate and control of the House as well. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what did the book he say about the battle here

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia first week that we're back on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>first real week of the election season as we get

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<v Speaker 1>ready for one that will happen in the next couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months. Well, the battle between the Prime Minister and

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<v Speaker 1>the alternative Prime Minister, interestingly, is one where the book

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<v Speaker 1>is telling us currently Labor is in a world of trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>and believe it or not, the actual favorite right now

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<v Speaker 1>the Coalition. Let's have a look at a whole collection

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<v Speaker 1>of the bookies that have put their numbers forward. Labor

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<v Speaker 1>currently is two dollars ten and the Coalition is the

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<v Speaker 1>favorite according to sports Bet at a dollar seventy two.

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<v Speaker 1>The same margin for the people after the election will

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<v Speaker 1>be Peter Dutton. The tob ever so slightly better for

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<v Speaker 1>the Labor Party, but still showing that the favorite three

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<v Speaker 1>different book is and again bookies could be wrong. Famously

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<v Speaker 1>one of them was very wrong in twenty nineteen, but

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<v Speaker 1>the bookies were so right in and around the American election.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be my north start to push

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<v Speaker 1>through much of the garbage that is there. Also worth

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<v Speaker 1>noting here too is that we have a start to

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<v Speaker 1>this election year where we have a Prime Minister who's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to buy his way out of trouble an announcement

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<v Speaker 1>a day millions yere billions there, and Peter Dutton who

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<v Speaker 1>is focusing on values. Now again I've got some data

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<v Speaker 1>for you in a second that's going to help explain

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<v Speaker 1>how these two teams are prosecuting the early days. But

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<v Speaker 1>while Peter Dutton is talking about big things like a

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<v Speaker 1>National Day, how it should be enshrined in law, how

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<v Speaker 1>councils should lose their capacity to basically do anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than do it on the twenty sixth or don't do

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<v Speaker 1>it at all. But the Prime Minister, he is playing

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<v Speaker 1>a very old school game here, which is turn up

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere and throw money at a problem. Now, Tasmania is

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<v Speaker 1>a place where the Labor Party holds two seats. The

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party holds one seat, and then an independent of

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<v Speaker 1>course holds the other. The expectation is is that if

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<v Speaker 1>they lose a seat like Bradden or Lyons the two

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<v Speaker 1>that Labor currently holds, then of course things get worse

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<v Speaker 1>for the government they move into minority, things get better

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<v Speaker 1>for the bookie's favorite in Peter Dutton. Well, today the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister was in Tasmania announcing more money, this time Davenport,

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<v Speaker 1>six million dollars to events that are there. Why it's

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<v Speaker 1>a way of trying to hold on to the seat.

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<v Speaker 1>But again does anyone remember this announcement in a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days time. This is on top of the more

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<v Speaker 1>than ten b four billion dollars which have announced thus far.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to the NBN or roads, and as

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<v Speaker 1>we went through in chapter and verse last night, when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to priorities. While I have no doubt that

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<v Speaker 1>things are needed in Davenport or Nara as they have been,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly the Bruce Highway which should have been dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with years agott alone three years ago, let alone five

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<v Speaker 1>years into the future, we live in a country where

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<v Speaker 1>as I told you last night, one in three people

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<v Speaker 1>are struggling at the moment as parents to pay for

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<v Speaker 1>their school costs, and people are now turning to maxing

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<v Speaker 1>out their credit card or going to the old fashioned

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<v Speaker 1>bank of grandma or grandpa to try to find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to pay for those school expenses. If the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>minister's got six million dollars to try to hold in

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<v Speaker 1>a marginal seed, surely he's got millions of dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of the charity sector. I'm going to keep

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this. They should be cracking off hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars for the charity sector that's taken care

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<v Speaker 1>of people right now. They have to be making it

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<v Speaker 1>easier for the people who are the parents of the

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<v Speaker 1>kids who are financially struggling to make sure that they

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<v Speaker 1>do not fall behind in confidence or in any other

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<v Speaker 1>way when they go to school. Prime Minister, it's up

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<v Speaker 1>to you. You can hold a press conference today with an

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<v Speaker 1>announcement nobody will remember, or you can do something that

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<v Speaker 1>will actually make people's lives better. But I mentioned before

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<v Speaker 1>about the data part of this, and you know that

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to this show, I try to show

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<v Speaker 1>you the information, the data from a neutral source. And

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<v Speaker 1>yes there's a lot of opinion that I will put

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<v Speaker 1>in and around it. Put simply, the data are either

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<v Speaker 1>the bricks of the argument. The mortar is the opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully it becomes a wall on which lies crash

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<v Speaker 1>to go all John Dutton on you as I quickly

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<v Speaker 1>remember that show Yellowstone. Well. Interestingly, today the Australian Financial

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<v Speaker 1>Review pulled out the speeches, every speech, every press conference

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<v Speaker 1>which has been made by both the Prime Minister and

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<v Speaker 1>by Peter Dutton since the start of this election year,

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<v Speaker 1>and they put it through the old computer and they

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<v Speaker 1>used a bit of AI. Here. AI analysis shows that

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister most frequently is using adjectives to pain

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<v Speaker 1>a more positive vision, including words such as good, important,

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<v Speaker 1>and successful to describe his government. Meantime, Peter Dutton says

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<v Speaker 1>week in competent, the worst, and shameful are among his

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<v Speaker 1>most colorful and repeated adjectives to describe both the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister and the government as the weakest since federation, while

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<v Speaker 1>describing himself as a strong leader who would fix the problems. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me explain why this is particularly interesting, because you see,

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<v Speaker 1>if the Prime Minister is to win this election, then

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<v Speaker 1>Australia has to believe that he is a government that

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<v Speaker 1>has made the country better in the past three years,

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<v Speaker 1>no evidence of that, and if he was to be

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<v Speaker 1>given even more power into the future then of course

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<v Speaker 1>he would continue to build the narrative. But the reality

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<v Speaker 1>is that Australians are much closer to where Peter Dutton is,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why the bookies are suggesting that there may

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<v Speaker 1>well be a shock result at the upcoming federal election.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, let me show you this here because there's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of poles that are worth showing you,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole collection of poles that show here about the

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<v Speaker 1>right and wrong direction of the country. Now, this one

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<v Speaker 1>is from the Roy Morgan people and it came out

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<v Speaker 1>this week that just thirty and a half percent of

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<v Speaker 1>people believe the country is headed in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty four percent of people say it's headed in the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong direction. That number of thirty in a bit is

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<v Speaker 1>basically the primary vote of the Labor Party right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me show you some more here as we

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<v Speaker 1>have a look at our next slide from the Essential

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<v Speaker 1>Research Group. These are the people who come out and

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<v Speaker 1>the Guardian poles will often be there. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>that the right track for the country is just thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one percent, basically the same as the previous one, and

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong track is currently at fifty one percent. But

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<v Speaker 1>then there is this one that I really have to

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<v Speaker 1>show you, which is, can you name one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>the federal government has done to make your life financially better?

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy three percent of people can't say. Seventy three percent

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<v Speaker 1>of people can't name one thing, not too little, too late,

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<v Speaker 1>tax cards, not all of the other stuff that they

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<v Speaker 1>claim has made massive changes when it comes to cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living. And when you actually break this down even more,

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<v Speaker 1>let me show you this. All voters seventy three percent

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<v Speaker 1>can't name a single thing the government's done. Labor voters

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six percent of them say, you can name something,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's the best the government goes. We're back that

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight percent of people who didn't want this government

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place, seventy percent of people who give

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<v Speaker 1>their preferences to this government, seventy nine percent of people

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<v Speaker 1>who vote one nation. This is an indication that their

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<v Speaker 1>preferences most likely go back to the Liberal party like

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<v Speaker 1>they did in twenty nineteen. Liberal win versus what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two and others which can be everything

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<v Speaker 1>from the Libertarian through to the Teals seventy six percent

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<v Speaker 1>also something that shows you about who is winning the

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<v Speaker 1>early days and while the Prime Minister might be out

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<v Speaker 1>there trying to do the lefty Jedi mind trick that

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<v Speaker 1>everything's okay and he's a builder and your life is

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<v Speaker 1>better than it was three years ago, when you know

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<v Speaker 1>your life has been much worse over the past three years,

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<v Speaker 1>and why would you reward the people who remember promised

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<v Speaker 1>to make it better, not in the Nevan never they

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<v Speaker 1>promised in twenty twenty two. Well we know that in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three they took fifteen hundred dollars off ten

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<v Speaker 1>million working Australians and things have got worse through of

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<v Speaker 1>course twenty twenty four, and now as we move our

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<v Speaker 1>way to twenty twenty five, there have been twelve interest

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<v Speaker 1>rate rises under this mod and even if the Reserve

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<v Speaker 1>Bank does what fingers crossed we all hope it does

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<v Speaker 1>in the upcoming meeting of pulling it back, you've still

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<v Speaker 1>got the effective pressure of those three years and a

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<v Speaker 1>dozen interest rate rises, which were not clear by the

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<v Speaker 1>time of the election. But again some of the analysis

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<v Speaker 1>that was done by the Financial Review today was the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister loves talking about himself myself man may. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they actually counted it, and God loved them for doing so,

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<v Speaker 1>because they saved me the trouble. Right. The data shows

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<v Speaker 1>that mister Abnezi has used first person pronouns such as

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<v Speaker 1>me or my more frequently than mister Dunden. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and forty three times since the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the year he has said I, me or my compared

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<v Speaker 1>to forty sorry, just eighty two that are there for

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<v Speaker 1>the alternative Prime Minister, which brings us to the analysis

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<v Speaker 1>again inside this article. But a person who will be

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<v Speaker 1>a guest on this program once the tennis is done

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<v Speaker 1>and we get up into the full run towards the election.

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Nights, by the way, is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>particular focus when Costa Mars and Michael Kroger are going

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<v Speaker 1>to get right into the state of the race. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't just mean the polls, I mean the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>behind the polls, the machine. It's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>big thing Sunday Night, each and every Sunday night here

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<v Speaker 1>on Paul Murray Life. Well. Costamars, of course is a

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<v Speaker 1>former Labor pollster. He's helped the teals out in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>but he runs a polling a mob called Redbridge. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what he says about the slogans. At the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>Labor has a lot more work to do to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that its slogan works. Kind of the same as

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<v Speaker 1>my view, which is, if the opinion polls are all

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<v Speaker 1>saying the country said in the wrong direction, a government saying,

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<v Speaker 1>send us back, because we've put it in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>They're only where about a third of the country is.

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<v Speaker 1>What's missing is meaningful policy action. The PM just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the ballast being the policy record or reform. But

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<v Speaker 1>simply that's a polite way of saying nothing got better

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<v Speaker 1>in the past three years. What can he point to? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he can point to some rather significant legislation when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to things like public housing. He can point to

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<v Speaker 1>two little too late tax pads. But remember the people

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<v Speaker 1>most in need of those with the people who got

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<v Speaker 1>the least people on forty five thousand dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting fourteen dollars a week. Oh but we've done

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<v Speaker 1>something about power bills, wasn't the promise? By twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five they'd be down by two hundred and seventy five dollars. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course they have gone way up, and inflation is

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<v Speaker 1>only being artificially held down by government handouts that mean

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred dollars a year, or more importantly, twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a month is being knocked off the bills, not

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<v Speaker 1>by reducing the cost of the electricity, but just by

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<v Speaker 1>hanging the electricity companies to knock twenty five dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>month off your bill. Meantime, mister Samaris says about Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Dutton and his start to the year, his messaging, how

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<v Speaker 1>his messaging matches up with the poles, matches up with

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<v Speaker 1>the bookies, and matches up with the mood of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>The same part of the country that turned on the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party just three years ago, that turned on the

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Party, what twelve years ago that turned on John

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<v Speaker 1>Howard back in two thousand and seven, that sliver of

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<v Speaker 1>Australia five to ten percent that flipped one way or

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<v Speaker 1>the other. Dutton is tapping into an underlying sentiment that

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<v Speaker 1>the country seems rudderless and Albinizi is not a strong leader.

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<v Speaker 1>The mindset that the next five to ten years are

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<v Speaker 1>very uncertain and in those times you need a strong leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Dutton slogan, which of course is putting the country back

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<v Speaker 1>on track, capitalizes on a lot of low hanging fruit.

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<v Speaker 1>But as always, my friends in the press galery, oh

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<v Speaker 1>don't they love this program and have for the better

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<v Speaker 1>part of fifteen years now. Occasionally there are some exceptions,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sorry to throw them all in together, but

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<v Speaker 1>generally speaking sort of, you know, seven out of ten

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<v Speaker 1>are all cheering for this government to find its mojor.

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<v Speaker 1>And while I am an opinion host and you expect

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<v Speaker 1>opinion to come from me, it is weird when people

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<v Speaker 1>who claim to be independent reporters tell us pretty obviously

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<v Speaker 1>which side they're going to be batting for now. A

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<v Speaker 1>significant figure in news over at Channel ten is Hugh Rimington,

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<v Speaker 1>formerly over at Channel nine, and he's sort of in

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<v Speaker 1>and out of the political sphere at the moment. But

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<v Speaker 1>he decided not to write on the ten website but

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<v Speaker 1>to write on the turbul Times today giving free advice

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<v Speaker 1>to the Prime Minister about how he could save his backside.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would any independent journalist be sitting and telling one

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<v Speaker 1>side of politics how to win, unless, of course, they

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<v Speaker 1>want that team to win. Anthony Albineazi couldn't sell a

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<v Speaker 1>schooner to a shearer, and there's plenty of criticism in

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<v Speaker 1>the article, but he says, what would Nick Xenophon do?

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<v Speaker 1>Put simply more stunts, and that's the way that he

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to connect with people, and presumably if

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<v Speaker 1>he was able to connect with people, then his message

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<v Speaker 1>would start to work and he would win an election. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I never hide that this is an opinion program. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been loud, proud and strong for as long as we've

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<v Speaker 1>been on the air and all my life before and after.

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<v Speaker 1>But these people are the ones who look down on

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<v Speaker 1>programs like this, who look down on viewers like you

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<v Speaker 1>who have strong opinions, who look down on this channel

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<v Speaker 1>for having strong opinions. Once the sun starts to disappear

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<v Speaker 1>at five o'clock in the afternoon, all the way through

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<v Speaker 1>to reader at eleven o'clock. But that's a taste of

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are going to be well the independent

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<v Speaker 1>arbiters of what the news of the day is. One

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<v Speaker 1>who's telling you over a Channel ten that he'd really

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<v Speaker 1>like a closer fight, because God forbid, Australian's got rid

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest prime minister of all time. Now, there

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<v Speaker 1>was one message also that came out of the American election,

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<v Speaker 1>which well we knew from mid July, was how Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was going to win, and it was his response

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<v Speaker 1>to the assassination attempts. But more importantly, fight fight, fight, fight,

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<v Speaker 1>fight fight. Don't muck around, don't bugg a rise around

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<v Speaker 1>on the edges, don't suck up to the usual people

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<v Speaker 1>who are always going to have a crack at you,

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<v Speaker 1>take a position and defend it. Well. Interestingly, we know

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<v Speaker 1>that when it comes to this election coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>just a few months time, that one of the x

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<v Speaker 1>factors that Labor desperately needs to be able to return

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<v Speaker 1>itself to power are their mates in the Greens. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that from every now and then they

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<v Speaker 1>like to pretend that they are fighting with each other,

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<v Speaker 1>Labor will lose any shred of environment and credibility it

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<v Speaker 1>still thinks it has.

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<v Speaker 2>In some cases it's just immaturity and spite from the

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<v Speaker 2>Green spokesperson.

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister is so desperate to detract and distract from

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<v Speaker 1>Labour's complicity and.

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<v Speaker 3>Backing of the invasion.

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<v Speaker 1>Enough is enough, But what a lovely fake fight because

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes down to the existential question of who

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<v Speaker 1>do you believe should end up in Parliament, the Labor

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<v Speaker 1>Party says the next best option after them is the Greens,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Greens always say the next best option after

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<v Speaker 1>them is the Labor Party. Preferences are the only reason

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<v Speaker 1>that the Labor Party is able to defeat the coalition.

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<v Speaker 1>Big question is and the scenario here, which will inevitably

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<v Speaker 1>be playing itself out at the next election, is that

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<v Speaker 1>those Greens preferences, despite all the fights, will of course

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<v Speaker 1>head their way towards the government. But an example of fight, fight, fight, win,

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<v Speaker 1>win win. Bugger what the cheersquad in the press gallery

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<v Speaker 1>is giving its free advice to Albo about how to

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<v Speaker 1>refine his mojo. Julian Lisa has decided to put it

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<v Speaker 1>right front and center that there is an existential threat

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<v Speaker 1>to the country right now and as social cohesion, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is the Greens. Now it's not just on the

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<v Speaker 1>matters of antisemitism, but principally that is his driving force here.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also know the economic policy where they don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the difference between turnover and profit, let alone social

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<v Speaker 1>policy and all the rest of it. That these are

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<v Speaker 1>all reasons why the Labour Party has to put the

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<v Speaker 1>Greens last, and if they don't put the Greens last,

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<v Speaker 1>then they are endorsing the worst of the Greens, because

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<v Speaker 1>if in every single seat in the country, the Labour

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<v Speaker 1>Party thinks that the next best thing to them is

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<v Speaker 1>the Greens, rather than viewing the Greens as the threat

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<v Speaker 1>they claim them to be, meaning you would put their

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<v Speaker 1>preferences last in order to guarantee as few of them

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<v Speaker 1>get elected to Parliament as possible. Well, that would of

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<v Speaker 1>course require a lot more stone and the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>has thankfully, people in the opposition thankfully, specifically people like

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<v Speaker 1>Julian Lisa don't care. They say this is about morality.

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<v Speaker 1>Most important thing that we can do is actually to

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<v Speaker 1>change the government of the country at the coming federal election,

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<v Speaker 1>because this government has been appalling away from politics. But

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<v Speaker 1>it will be a major factor in and around the

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<v Speaker 1>election because remember, the Greens think that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to overtake the Labor Party and still use

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<v Speaker 1>their preferences to be able to win more seats, and

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<v Speaker 1>largely through the problems around renting. Remember a third of

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<v Speaker 1>the country owns a property, a third of the country's

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<v Speaker 1>paying off a property. A third of the country is renting,

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<v Speaker 1>so presumably they are renting from somebody who is also

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pay off for property. So in my view,

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<v Speaker 1>at least half, probably sixty percent of people are connected

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<v Speaker 1>to the mortgage rates. And as we know, because we

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<v Speaker 1>invite too many people into the country, when there's not

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<v Speaker 1>enough houses in the country, demand for rent goes up.

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<v Speaker 1>It means the cost of it goes through the roof.

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<v Speaker 1>It means that peaceeople who are barely hanging on start

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<v Speaker 1>to fall into that category of about three million people

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<v Speaker 1>who are this close to homelessness. But of course it's

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<v Speaker 1>not as important as the beautification of Davenport to hold

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<v Speaker 1>on to the marginal seat, or the beautification of the

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<v Speaker 1>water sides of Nara to hold on to the seat,

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<v Speaker 1>or the three billion dollars for the NBN, or the

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<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars for the Bruce Highway that it should

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<v Speaker 1>have already been spent. Instead, you've got to vote for

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<v Speaker 1>us again to somehow break a promise yet again. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we got an insight today about the median and average

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<v Speaker 1>rent for both houses and for units. If you're somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who's paid off your house or is paying off a

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<v Speaker 1>house right now. It might shock you to know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where the rent is in the country, because you see

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<v Speaker 1>in Sydney the typical rent for a house is eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eleven dollars a week a unit seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ten dollars a week. It's cheaper in Melbourne where

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<v Speaker 1>it's six hundred thirty three dollars for a medium rent

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<v Speaker 1>for a house renting for a unit five hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six. But what about Perth. Perth right now is

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<v Speaker 1>more expensive when it comes to the median rental values

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<v Speaker 1>than Melbourne at six hundred and sixty five dollars. To

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<v Speaker 1>have a look in a simpler way is the illustrations

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<v Speaker 1>of how rent has increased over the years in every

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<v Speaker 1>capital city, where it has particularly spiked in high population

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<v Speaker 1>areas like Sydney where yes, the million people that have

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<v Speaker 1>been brought in by this government, many which end up

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<v Speaker 1>in places like Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. But you can

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<v Speaker 1>also see basically everywhere when it comes to a house

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<v Speaker 1>has gone through the roof when it comes to units

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<v Speaker 1>where you can forget about it because as you can

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<v Speaker 1>see right there, over the past couple of years and

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<v Speaker 1>it ain't COVID. It's the massive immigration that has happened

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<v Speaker 1>post COVID, the out of control immigration that this government

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<v Speaker 1>has demand because it makes the federal budget look good

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<v Speaker 1>and they can say they've got a surplus. But where

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<v Speaker 1>do the people live? Whatever, we'll get around, we'll work

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<v Speaker 1>it out later. All of this is part of the picture,

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<v Speaker 1>the immigration picture that in part will be discussed at

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<v Speaker 1>the upcoming election. And rightly so. Now this one was

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<v Speaker 1>in the inbox yesterday, but I had to take a

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<v Speaker 1>moment to talk about how, just ever so slightly, the

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<v Speaker 1>cracks are appearing in the woke topia of Jacinta Allen

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<v Speaker 1>in Victoria. Now we know that there's a new opposition leader,

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<v Speaker 1>we know that there's some polling, we know there's an

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<v Speaker 1>awful lot of people with fingers crossed. But you are

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<v Speaker 1>in a world of pain when you are having the

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<v Speaker 1>very police officers that you used to keep people in

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<v Speaker 1>their homes or fire rubber bullets of people who protested

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<v Speaker 1>the actions of the government, when they are now out

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<v Speaker 1>and about an openly protesting and disrupting the government. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>the acting Premier Ben Carroll was delivering a press conference.

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<v Speaker 1>He was doing so ahead of a by election that

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<v Speaker 1>will be taking place in Victoria relatively soon. So the

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<v Speaker 1>police decided, you know what, we're going to make our

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<v Speaker 1>presence heard. We're going to make it seen, We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to make it felt. And it made the six pm news,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning the pay battle. The government is losing.

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<v Speaker 2>A Werribee press conference gate crushed by police. We've quick

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<v Speaker 2>come to realize that the only place the government's probably

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<v Speaker 2>going to listen to them is in the electorate of Werribee.

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<v Speaker 2>State government staff scramble to shift the media event.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to move down that way into this garden.

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<v Speaker 5>To avoid the flashing lights, but they couldn't drown out

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<v Speaker 5>the buzzing, an industrial action stunt designed to get the

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<v Speaker 5>acting premier's attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Good on them all the strengthen ume we are pro

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<v Speaker 1>cop on this show. Pro police. They are the people

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<v Speaker 1>who run towards danger when any and every person who

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<v Speaker 1>is in the public service, or any and everyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>in the Parliament would run the other way. Or if

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<v Speaker 1>they did run towards danger, of course they demand a

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<v Speaker 1>camera was there with them. Police, of course do their

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<v Speaker 1>work all day, every day and deserve as much money

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<v Speaker 1>as they want because literally they put themselves on the

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<v Speaker 1>line to make sure that when something does go wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>when you and I have the worst days of our lives,

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<v Speaker 1>that somebody does turn up, and they, along with the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the emergency services, in my view, they deserve

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<v Speaker 1>all the support that they demand from a government. Some

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<v Speaker 1>sad news came around today for those of us who

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<v Speaker 1>were eighties kids. Simon Townsend, the host, producer, executive producer,

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<v Speaker 1>owner and the creative force behind Wonder World, Well, he

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<v Speaker 1>passed away today. He had a battle with cancer seventy nine. Meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>at the ABC, they've accidentally worked something out, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that the cost of energy is going up, not just

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:49.879
<v Speaker 1>your power bills, but your gas bills. And if your

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<v Speaker 1>gas bill and your power bill goes up, that might

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<v Speaker 1>make it difficult if you're a factory and you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make things. It might be really hard if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a small business and you require things like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ovens to cook bread. Rich in resources, but Australia's energy

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>costs have tripled and manufacturers are hurting. Oh thanks Scoop.

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<v Speaker 1>Electricity prices have gone up threefold in the past ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Gas prices have gone up fourfold. According to the steelmaker OURCA.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I also like talking about other people's money,

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<v Speaker 1>i e. How they peddle it up against the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Under the previous government in Queensland, they were experts at it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a look at the Courier Mail story of the

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<v Speaker 1>past couple of days, which tells us about the types

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<v Speaker 1>of money that people are on right now to run

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 1>things like Treasury or Energy Queensland, or power Link or

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<v Speaker 1>Queensland Rail. It's anywhere from seven hundred thousand dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>year to one point twenty five million dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Can some premiere somewhere or some politicians somewhere say that

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<v Speaker 1>no one who runs an agency in the public service

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<v Speaker 1>will be paid a dollar more than the premier or

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<v Speaker 1>Prime minister because the bloke who currently is running Queensland

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<v Speaker 1>Treasury is earning twice what the Prime minister does, let

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<v Speaker 1>alone the premiere. Another perfect example about fight fight, fight,

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<v Speaker 1>and what attracts many of us to the Trump way

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<v Speaker 1>of doing things. Knowing that yes, bull in a china

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<v Speaker 1>shop is going to make break a few things, but

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus gives you an opportunity to rebuild things in the

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<v Speaker 1>better way. And I don't mean build back better, but

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect example of many of the ways that Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has frankly done well done, Polly and done even better

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<v Speaker 1>again is crash or crashed through. And the bloke you

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<v Speaker 1>can see on you Telly right now is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>called Pete Hegseth. He's formerly a Fox News but more importantly,

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>he's a graduate of Harvard and even more importantly, he

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<v Speaker 1>has spent many years of his life fighting in the

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<v Speaker 1>defense forces of the United States. He is the pick

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<v Speaker 1>that Donald Trump wants to put in charge of the

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<v Speaker 1>entire military. And the left he's hated because he's from outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a threat to the system. And don't you love it?

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<v Speaker 1>When it's hunt to Biden, it's nothing to see here.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it's a Republican, let's get down and dirty.

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<v Speaker 1>But you acknowledge it, Fwedge that you cheated on your wife,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you cheated on the woman by whom you

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<v Speaker 1>had just fathered a child. You have been met at that.

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<v Speaker 1>I will allow your words to speak for them. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not retracting that today. That's good. Oh and if that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't enough, apparently it's a piss pot.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know that being drunk at work is prohibited

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<v Speaker 2>for service members under the UCMJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Senator. Those are multiple false, anonymous reports peddled by NBCDS

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<v Speaker 1>directly to the dozens of men and women at Fox. Sorry,

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>a little carried away, but you get the point. They're

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>focused on the drinking the front of the personal life.

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<v Speaker 1>When it's Hunt of Barden or anyone else. Dis nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to see here. When Joe Biden didn't recognize one of

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<v Speaker 1>his grandchildren because it was political, another schnuthna sea here

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 1>when it's pet Hezeth all the way in. But he

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<v Speaker 1>stood there, took it, never lost his call, and pushed back.

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>He showed the courage under fire that clearly he showed

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<v Speaker 1>when he was part of Iraq and Afghanistan, and clearly

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<v Speaker 1>the sorts of metal that you would need when you

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<v Speaker 1>are taking on the entrenched failures in the defense bureaucracy

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>and defense industries in the United States. A Republican was

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<v Speaker 1>able to get this out on CNN before, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>they changed the subject. Well, in short, I think Pete

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<v Speaker 1>Hegseth kicked our asses today. I mean it wasn't even close.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't lay a glove. But let's not say that

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<v Speaker 1>this was not a day where there was not Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump newsed just six days out from becoming the President

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States once again forty five coming back

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<v Speaker 1>as forty seven. Well we know that of course. As

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>he heads back to the White House, one of the

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>things that he will be bringing with him is an

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>absolute love of diet coke. Apparently drinks it like I

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>drink non diet coke, so much so that has this

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>coke is a way of probably sucking up but still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get on the right side of the President

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<v Speaker 1>is now going to be making official presidential level diet coke.

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<v Speaker 1>So just like they have the jacket with the logo

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<v Speaker 1>on it, just like they have the logo in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the lecturn, he will now have his own exclusive,

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<v Speaker 1>special version of diet coke. I love it just because

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<v Speaker 1>of an onnoier lefty soft drinks orange man pete hegseeth

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<v Speaker 1>ah more in a second, No locks, no lefties, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into it problem. Bishop back where she belongs on

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<v Speaker 1>your Telly. Next, Welcome back to the man cad Let's class.

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<v Speaker 1>This join up a little bit with the carry out

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<v Speaker 1>a Champ. Welcome back the lovely Bromwin Bishop from the

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<v Speaker 1>Center of Independent Studies. The equally lovely fray Leech love

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<v Speaker 1>to see you both all right. So, as I explained,

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<v Speaker 1>we can see how they want to start the year

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<v Speaker 1>both sides of politics right now. You can see the

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>scenario where Peter Dutton's trying to go broad values, also

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<v Speaker 1>where the majority of the country is, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>we're on the wrong track. Prime Minister is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>basically doing what you would do in the middle of

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>the thirty three days, which is turning up somewhere with

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<v Speaker 1>an announcement hyperlocal, hoping that somehow people go millions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for Davenport. I will now officially completely forget the

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<v Speaker 1>past three years of your government. Here he was in

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<v Speaker 1>Tasmania trying to shore up the two seats that Labor

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<v Speaker 1>have there.

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<v Speaker 2>This grant here of six million dollars for the revitalization

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 2>of Devonport's CBD by delivering Stage three of the Living

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.959
<v Speaker 2>City project is a great example of the comwell backing

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<v Speaker 2>local communities. This has been developed from the ground up,

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<v Speaker 2>not something that's been developed in Canberras.

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<v Speaker 1>But the bloke from Campbell turn up to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>how good he is because he's using his oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>your money to make it happen, So Bromwin, obviously we

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<v Speaker 1>know that you think that the relations on the right

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<v Speaker 1>track at the moment. The bookie seemed to suggest it,

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<v Speaker 1>some parts of the Poles seem to suggest it. But

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<v Speaker 1>what is it about the way the Prime Minister has

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<v Speaker 1>started that gives you an insight about how he plans

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<v Speaker 1>to campaign between now and when he calls it?

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<v Speaker 3>Desperation is a good word.

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<v Speaker 5>And if I might say, you know, reminds me a

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<v Speaker 5>bit of two thousand and seven, Petixillo and John Hard

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 5>spent like madmen, and we know how that edited up.

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<v Speaker 5>The Prime Minister losty seat. So spending really isn't the

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<v Speaker 5>answer if you haven't been delivering it and you've been

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<v Speaker 5>seen to be in error in everything you've done or

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<v Speaker 5>a majority of things you've done, Spending is not going

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<v Speaker 5>to buy your forgiveness. And when I watched the sheer

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<v Speaker 5>duplicity of saying, I'll give money to clean up the

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<v Speaker 5>Macquarie Harbor to sort of help the salmon industry, but

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<v Speaker 5>I won't tell Tanya Plibosey that she's got to make

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<v Speaker 5>a decision and save the industry, not destroy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Dare I say each way Albo of it all, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's baked into the cake. Freyer again. I just think,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was saying this before this fired up first showback,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that I don't want another election of politicians

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<v Speaker 1>turning up and announcing, you know, small amounts of money

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<v Speaker 1>six million, of course in anyone's life, huge but small

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>amounts of money in terms of the federal budget, as

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 1>a way of just having an excuse to have a

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<v Speaker 1>press conference. They don't need the announcement to have the

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<v Speaker 1>press conference, local candidates, all the rest of it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I get that there's all of these subterraneal reasons apparently

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<v Speaker 1>while you make these local announcements. But if all you

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<v Speaker 1>see is a government where seventy plus percent of people

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<v Speaker 1>can't name a single thing that they've done to make

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>your life better, but you're turning up saying here, I

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>am here, I am with the sack full of goodies.

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<v Speaker 1>No one believes the.

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<v Speaker 4>Goodies, right, So true, and I think what we've seen

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<v Speaker 4>with this government now, it's as Bronwan said, it's complete desperation.

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 4>And they have no other policy like, they have no ideas.

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 4>There is no economic reform on the table, there is

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<v Speaker 4>no tax reform, there's no, nothing. It's just empty. It's vacuous,

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 4>like Albo and his entire leadership. But that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>So all they're left with are these micro election commitments,

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<v Speaker 4>basically trying to pork barrel the electorate into forgetting three years.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't think it's going to work because we

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<v Speaker 4>have had the worst decline in living standards in fifty years,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty one months of consecutive per capita recession. Australians will

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<v Speaker 4>not forget that we are being left behind the worst

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<v Speaker 4>decline in living standards in the OECD. And now we're

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<v Speaker 4>caught in this toxic cycle where we've had a government

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<v Speaker 4>that spend an extra three hundred and forty seven billion

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 4>dollars in see election, So that's going to push up inflation,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they're going to turn around and go, okay,

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 4>so now we need more cust of living measures, so

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 4>your taxes are going to be spared more, and that's

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 4>going to further push up inflation. And that is the

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:10.479
<v Speaker 4>cycle that Albo has gotten our country into.

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<v Speaker 1>And also it feels brom One that again the political

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<v Speaker 1>class that is freely giving advice via the turmbul times

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<v Speaker 1>you be more like Nick Xenophon. Okay, that was great

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 1>for a little while, but then what was it like

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>when he tried to run for premiere or recently. I'm

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure that didn't work out in the end. But

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the idea here that we're in this scenario where I

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<v Speaker 1>think comfortable people who talk about politics for a living,

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:35.919
<v Speaker 1>Comfortable people who sort of might sit around and get

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>engaged in the conversation about, oh, are they too conservative?

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 1>What's their twenty thirty five target? Why haven't they all

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>know the sort of frankly, the sort of greeny teal world.

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>They're ignoring the reality. And the reality is is that

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.959
<v Speaker 1>of the extreme majority of the population, including it seats

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>that have never voted liberal right, they are ignoring the

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>actual threat on the table.

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<v Speaker 5>I think John ca nailed it in the fin Review

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<v Speaker 5>today when he said what people care about is what

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<v Speaker 5>you pay at the checkout, what you pay for your petrol,

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:15.240
<v Speaker 5>what you pay for your electricity, and most importantly.

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<v Speaker 3>What you pay for your insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that is.

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<v Speaker 5>A killer when you've been going think of your own accounts,

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<v Speaker 5>when you've been going through paying your ordinary bills, and

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 5>suddenly you get the whammo of the insurance bill for

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 5>your house or for your car or whatever it is.

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 3>It's a whammo and it goes through the roof.

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<v Speaker 5>And with these files in the United States, I'm afraid

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<v Speaker 5>that's going to impact on that price again because they're

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 5>part of the international insurance business or they're literally.

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Global companies that the Australian Office.

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<v Speaker 5>Certainly pay for, certainly the reinsurance are but the important

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<v Speaker 5>thing is that those four issues are what determines what

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<v Speaker 5>disposable income.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got every week.

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<v Speaker 5>And worrying about whether or not Elbow's going to say

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to put three billion more into the NBN

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever it is, it just doesn't wash.

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<v Speaker 3>It just doesn't wash.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, also, you know they've spent a quarter of

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<v Speaker 1>a b four billion dollars on government advertising. Right, this

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:19.839
<v Speaker 1>is where I look that the former government in its

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:22.399
<v Speaker 1>dying days, was terrible with this stuff too. I've said

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>it for as long as I've had access to a

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>microphone or a camera. There shouldn't be anything but emergency

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>government advertising in the calendar year of an election. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest of it is all pretty obvious because it

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<v Speaker 1>has consistently been abused. All right. I finally, if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>put that into the parliament and see what happens. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a big fan of maybe just one line bills going

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<v Speaker 1>into the parliament to see what happens.

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<v Speaker 5>No idea how it is possible in government to define

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<v Speaker 5>something is essential? Yes, yes, it really is something that's

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<v Speaker 5>quite enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is. It is quite strange. But you've got

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<v Speaker 1>this scenario where there are people who are truly struggling.

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Three million people this close to homelessness, right, three point

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>four having problems with food insecurity. That number is not

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the forever number that's always been in Australia, right, that

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 1>is the number that has been growing over the past

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 1>couple of years. The census showed us years ago more

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>homeless people than ever before in the country. Right. Sorry

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>to be the bleeding heart, but the reality is a

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>country that is doing as well as we are should

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>have a charity sector that at times of surge gets

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<v Speaker 1>the same surge as other things. What are am I

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>wrong here?

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<v Speaker 5>No? But I want to talk about a group that

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<v Speaker 5>is only just starting to be talked about now that

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 5>I started talking.

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<v Speaker 3>About when I was Minister for Age Care.

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<v Speaker 5>And they are older women yes, no superinnuation and no

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 5>property yes, who have nothing and we're talking about women

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 5>in their sixties and their seventies who are sleeping rough

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:52.720
<v Speaker 5>and indeed their eighties. I remember talking to one woman

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 5>who was in her eighties who had no security. She

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 5>had her head on a pillow by grace and favor

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 5>of a local charity.

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<v Speaker 3>And that has.

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<v Speaker 5>Become a more pressing issue and it will continue to

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<v Speaker 5>grow now. Once upon a time, under the age care system,

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<v Speaker 5>we used to have a system of hostel care which

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<v Speaker 5>was very low level and people literally could live there.

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 5>They weren't in need of the sort of care that

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 5>we think of these days.

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<v Speaker 3>But that disappeared and.

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<v Speaker 5>The bottom line is nothing has replaced it. And so

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<v Speaker 5>this is a category of people, along with mothers with

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 5>children who are fleeing domestic.

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Violence and live in their cars.

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<v Speaker 5>These people are just slipping through the cracks well.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where I'm not going to say political

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity because it's also the right thing to do, which

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 1>is that I think that rather than every day a

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>different announcement, a couple of million here, a couple of minion,

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 1>make a big commitment in terms of the opposition to

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>surge the charity sector to take care of these people

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>during these particular times. Right, But there are also again

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that group of people who you know, they're sweet, they

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 1>don't care, frankly about what's going on, or they are

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>more concerned by sort of whatever the radio national talking

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>point of the days. Frey, You've run in these electorates

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>at certain times. So do you think that, again, there's

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.839
<v Speaker 1>elections within elections within elections within elections, right, But do

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>you think that we are at a tipping point where

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<v Speaker 1>some of the places that may have just three years

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.280
<v Speaker 1>ago not really been all that intercost of living staff

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that three years later are going to really just be made. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about your announcement about Davenport. God love Davenport,

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>but I don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Well, I think the policies that we see the

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 4>left run on, especially the last election, climate, integrity, women,

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 4>the voice, those are luxury issues. Those are things you

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 4>can care about when you're not worried about putting food

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.320
<v Speaker 4>on the table, when you're not worried about getting your kids.

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 4>They're baptist, all essentials, paying for fuel, paying for all

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 4>your expenses. And I think the economy has changed in

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 4>such a way real disposable incomes have collapsed, cost of

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 4>living is continuing to surge, productivity is declining, and so

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<v Speaker 4>I think now those issues that people in you know, Balmain,

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<v Speaker 4>where I ran as a state liberal candidate, where they

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<v Speaker 4>had the luxury to care about that three years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Even in those areas where they do have high incomes,

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 4>they are property owners, they are still feeling the pinch

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 4>because mortgages are still up, you know, twenty five thousand

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:34.720
<v Speaker 4>dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is why. And I don't say it in a

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<v Speaker 1>left wing right wing way, but if that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>to understand it, for the point of the conversation, let's

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>go there, right. I agree with Peter Dutton's announcement on

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:49.240
<v Speaker 1>a restatement on Sunday doubling the number of telehealth things.

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>When it comes to mental health, I would think that

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<v Speaker 1>a big sweeping thing around the charity sector helps helps,

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>not soften, but certainly shows what your priorities are. But

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<v Speaker 1>if ourbo's out there each and every day, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that you're able to make a big

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>statement and reinforce it constantly as a sign of your priorities,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to announcement a day to justify the press conference.

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And that's what the press gallery needs because we constantly

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<v Speaker 1>have to feed the beast.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's right. But also the thing I think

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<v Speaker 5>that is strong about Peter Duttin, and he's doing extremely well,

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:27.280
<v Speaker 5>is on the so called cultural wars, loving our country,

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 5>loving the symbols of our country, because at the end

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:34.320
<v Speaker 5>of the day, if you do not have a culture, you've.

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Got nothing to defend bloody Earth.

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 5>And if we're really concerned about how Australia is going

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:44.319
<v Speaker 5>to survive in a complex world, we have to stick

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 5>up for who we are, what our culture is, and

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 5>then have a defense force to defend it bloody Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got some actual stats about this that I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with tomorrow and I which is actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to further put some data buyd the idea about why

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<v Speaker 1>those changes have happened in favor of things like Australia

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>because of the mix of Australia that has changed over

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the past ten and twenty years, where surprise, surprise, the

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>debate about the day that certain people want to have

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>over the past ten twenty years has been replaced by

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 1>people who see the day as of course, the day

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:14.879
<v Speaker 1>they became an Australian quick break back with more move

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 1>away from federal politics, and there's a big fight happening

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 1>in New South Wales. When it comes to the trains,

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a labor government, it's unions and nothing is happening

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and commuters suffer. How would these guys fix it? You're

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 1>find out next. Freileh is with the Menzies Research Center.

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<v Speaker 1>Lovely to see you. I don't know why I kept

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 1>getting it wrong. I certainly apologize. And the one off

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<v Speaker 1>a Broman Bishop, which is all the research centers put

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.879
<v Speaker 1>together in her institutional knowledge. See what I did there.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, as a carryover champ has always here on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday nights, No Sook's, no left is. Let's start off

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the way that we know that you like it. News

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 1>applies today. There was an absolute apart from the weather,

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>a horrible experience for meellions of people trying to move

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>around because the train union decided, bugger, let's start pulling

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the workforce now in part. One of the things they're

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 1>winging about is that the trains that have been built

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that don't need drivers might mean that some drivers may

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 1>not have a job. So they want it to guarantee

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:21.800
<v Speaker 1>that a driver doesn't drive the train, but just still

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:23.439
<v Speaker 1>sits in the front of the train like they need

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 1>to also a massive pay dispute. Now, this is a

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:31.239
<v Speaker 1>labor government dealing with a hard court labor union. But

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 1>in fairness, I can't fault that, he said. We as

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:37.799
<v Speaker 1>government's attempts to negotiate here, they've gone soft, they've gone hard,

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>they've threatened this, they've gone off there. But if at

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a moment's notice your train network is just going to

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 1>shut down, how do you deal with it?

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<v Speaker 5>Bromwin, Well, first of all, they're hoisted on their own batard.

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 5>They were told during the election campaign you move the

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 5>cap on wage increases and all hell will break lit.

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 5>Now there is a pecking order in public sector areas,

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 5>and people know I'm.

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Worth more than that bloke. Call that bloke or that bloke.

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 5>Yes, and if the government does a negotiation and give

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 5>us a higher payment to someone a bit out of

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 5>the pecking order, then the others all say, well.

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 3>You've got to give us up because we are are

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 3>up that. It's just built into the system.

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<v Speaker 5>Now. The problem is that it's not just one union

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 5>dealing with The ETU is involved in this too. There's

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 5>a proliferation of unions which are all enmissed all supporting

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 5>of the government. They pay the government to get it elected,

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 5>and when they get them elected, they say, well, now

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 5>we want our payoff. So this intractable position, maybe the

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:49.320
<v Speaker 5>rongal Reagan solution.

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:51.879
<v Speaker 3>You sack the lot and train new ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean literally, I remember did.

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 3>With air traffic controllers if you.

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Remember, well, yeah, I mean we remember a scenario where

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I think a form of transport ministry was up somewhere

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 1>over summer. To be honest, I wasn't paying that much

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:05.440
<v Speaker 1>attention and said at one point they wanted to privatize

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.279
<v Speaker 1>things in order to just break the mixes of these

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 1>particular workers. I assume labor's not planning to do that

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 1>in New South Wales. But how do you fix it?

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you've got people that have gone an

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 1>offer and now they got a better offer, but still

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 1>they shut everything down, what do you do.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you can't cave to them, that's for sure, because

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 4>all you're doing is emboldening. It's like negotiating with terrorists, right,

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.760
<v Speaker 4>that's rule number one. Do not negotiate with terrorists, because

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 4>all you do is you tell them that it works.

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 4>And so if you start, if you start caving to

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.320
<v Speaker 4>the rail workers. Next you'll have whoever, and then whoever,

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:40.839
<v Speaker 4>and then all of a sudden, the whole state will

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:43.800
<v Speaker 4>be held ransom by the unions. So that's not an option.

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.319
<v Speaker 4>If I were in charge, i'd stop paying them, I'd

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.360
<v Speaker 4>try to sack them all, and then i'd accelerate the

0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:51.799
<v Speaker 4>development of the metro so we can get rid of

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 4>train drivers once and for all. And the idea of

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 4>putting drivers on driverless metros is peak union in a

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:04.880
<v Speaker 4>sanity that everybody should condemn because it's an absurd his weirdness.

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 5>It's changed there for four years not being used. They

0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 5>were driverless trains, and it wasn't until the government agreed

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 5>to put drivers on them.

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 4>So they went into some unbelievables.

0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, last one here, and I want to talk

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 1>about Pete Hegseth and what took place today as the

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 1>bloke who would end up being in charge of the

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Defense Department was being put through his paces with the

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Democrats trying to make the most about infidelity or anonymous

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff about drinking, all the rest of it very little.

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.240
<v Speaker 1>And I stayed up until very very early this morning

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:41.399
<v Speaker 1>watching this very few questions about saying on how would

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>you actually manage the department? Where would you save money?

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>How could you instead? It basically was an attempt to

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:48.879
<v Speaker 1>scandalize this guy to such an extent that he would

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:51.880
<v Speaker 1>become toxic and Trump would drop him. Guess what, It

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:57.359
<v Speaker 1>failed because he sat there and he showed the exact

0:46:57.480 --> 0:47:01.800
<v Speaker 1>way you play incoming right. You get them to go crazy,

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.399
<v Speaker 1>not you blowing up. You get them to blow up.

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>And I think this is a little bit of a

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 1>lesson for a lot of people. Rather than playing it

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:10.719
<v Speaker 1>safe and guaranteeing the unit room where nobody's ever going

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 1>to disagree with you, work out what you're going to

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:15.240
<v Speaker 1>say when somebody pops up in the crowd and yells

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:15.880
<v Speaker 1>at your Bromwin.

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:19.360
<v Speaker 5>Well, as I said, sometimes you really rather like that

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 5>because you can play off it.

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 5>But I found the sheer hypocrisy of Democrats who had

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 5>a president in President Clinton, who destroyed the life of

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 5>Monica Lewinsky as the most powerful man in the world,

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 5>seducing a nineteen year old intern, even in the alcove

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:46.880
<v Speaker 5>off the Oval office. And of course he was married

0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:50.319
<v Speaker 5>to Hillary and she stood by her man, and they

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:54.759
<v Speaker 5>destroyed Monica Lewinsky, and they have the hide to come

0:47:54.800 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 5>and ask another person about their behavior when he seems

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 5>to have come to terms with that, and in his

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 5>own testimony said, I have become a reformed person. I

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 5>just found the whole thing rather this taste well, except

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 5>the guy who said, how many senators.

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Correct the standard?

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.840
<v Speaker 5>You're all out, which ones of you have got divorced,

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<v Speaker 5>and nobody's asked you to stand aside.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a very interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>Thing to watch, I think, And yes, I think he

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<v Speaker 5>came out of it quite well.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's one of those things you can do

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<v Speaker 1>it at the start, you can't necessarily do it towards

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<v Speaker 1>the end of a government because you start to look

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<v Speaker 1>a little off. But what did you think of the

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<v Speaker 1>performance today?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought he handled it really well. And it is

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<v Speaker 4>ironic that the Democrats are now complaining about some sort

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<v Speaker 4>of cover up, some sort of conspiracy, when they're the ones.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Biden has literally just pardoned his son Hunter

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<v Speaker 4>so he cannot be investigated for any corruption over the

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<v Speaker 4>last ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>So exactly, Thank you very much, do appreciate it. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see you all again very soon. See you tomorrow night

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<v Speaker 1>for another additional Poul Marie Live Raw special guest will

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<v Speaker 1>be the wonderful Megan Kelly see it then