1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:13,201 Speaker 1: Apogee Production. Welcome to the Sheep Rises Podcast. I'm Ashley 2 00:00:13,281 --> 00:00:16,881 Speaker 1: and I'm Siana. This podcast is about female empowerment. 3 00:00:16,441 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: And encouraging you to be your biggest, boldest, and most 4 00:00:19,201 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: authentic version of yourself. 5 00:00:20,961 --> 00:00:23,281 Speaker 1: We help you shed the shame, grow to a new level. 6 00:00:23,361 --> 00:00:25,641 Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh and cry and talk about the topics 7 00:00:25,881 --> 00:00:27,801 Speaker 1: everyone else is too afraid to talk about. 8 00:00:28,401 --> 00:00:30,761 Speaker 2: Get ready for your next level of self. 9 00:00:31,521 --> 00:00:34,601 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to shep Rises. But having you 10 00:00:34,641 --> 00:00:38,081 Speaker 1: be back in your ears. We have a big catch 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: up episode because it's honestly been a huge month. Has 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,761 Speaker 1: been lots of highs, lots of lows. It's been a 13 00:00:44,801 --> 00:00:46,761 Speaker 1: lot to hold. But before we get into it, Godash 14 00:00:46,801 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: shares of the Week do you want to go first? 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely? My share of the week is more so just 16 00:00:52,601 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: trust your intuition. 17 00:00:54,801 --> 00:00:56,761 Speaker 1: All need reminding of that sometimes just. 18 00:00:56,721 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: Trust your intuition. 19 00:00:58,401 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: There. 20 00:00:58,921 --> 00:01:01,281 Speaker 2: Oftentimes I feel like our intuition is always trying to 21 00:01:01,321 --> 00:01:04,841 Speaker 2: tell us what we already know. But it's about like 22 00:01:04,881 --> 00:01:07,041 Speaker 2: an our heart and our head on board on the 23 00:01:07,121 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: same thing, dancing together, and like it's like our heart 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: knows and how intuition will always tell us, especially about 25 00:01:13,961 --> 00:01:17,961 Speaker 2: a certain situation about someone's behavior, about what's happening in 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: a certain dynamic, and it's just really important that you 27 00:01:21,121 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: have that inkling for a reason, and you're allowed to 28 00:01:24,401 --> 00:01:26,601 Speaker 2: trust yourself. And I think for the most part, at least, 29 00:01:26,601 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: I only speak for myself. I've many times I've not 30 00:01:28,961 --> 00:01:31,241 Speaker 2: listened to my intuition and then laid it down the track. 31 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,721 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I was right. 32 00:01:32,961 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was right. 33 00:01:34,041 --> 00:01:36,321 Speaker 2: I should have listened when I felt that, but it 34 00:01:36,401 --> 00:01:38,801 Speaker 2: was like I questioned myself. So this is just a 35 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,401 Speaker 2: reminder that you're allowed to trust yourself, and you're allowed 36 00:01:42,401 --> 00:01:44,761 Speaker 2: to trust the things that your mind brings you, and 37 00:01:44,801 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: that you often know more than you give yourself credit. 38 00:01:47,641 --> 00:01:49,921 Speaker 1: It's never off, is it. Sometimes when I'm unsure and 39 00:01:49,921 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: I'll talk to Steve, He's like, what your intuition say? Yeah, 40 00:01:52,521 --> 00:01:55,721 Speaker 1: it's always right, babe, And if he's unsure about someone 41 00:01:55,801 --> 00:01:57,761 Speaker 1: or something, he'll come to me. It's like, your intuition's 42 00:01:57,801 --> 00:02:01,001 Speaker 1: just so on point. Yeah, Ye're such a good reminder. 43 00:02:01,041 --> 00:02:03,681 Speaker 1: I love that. I have a bunch of quotes I 44 00:02:03,681 --> 00:02:06,241 Speaker 1: want to read out. It's on this Instagram page. It's 45 00:02:06,281 --> 00:02:10,281 Speaker 1: called emotionally dot perfect, and I feel like anyone that's 46 00:02:10,321 --> 00:02:12,481 Speaker 1: just going through a hard time or going through maybe 47 00:02:12,481 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: your relationship breakup or something. I think these ones will 48 00:02:15,281 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: really land for you. I hope you heal from things 49 00:02:18,281 --> 00:02:22,321 Speaker 1: that no one ever apologized for. You can't change someone 50 00:02:22,361 --> 00:02:26,281 Speaker 1: who doesn't see an issue in their actions. Believe that's 51 00:02:26,281 --> 00:02:26,761 Speaker 1: the truth. 52 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:27,601 Speaker 2: That's a good one. 53 00:02:27,841 --> 00:02:31,761 Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't get what you want because you deserve better. 54 00:02:32,401 --> 00:02:35,361 Speaker 1: Be proud of how you've been handling these last few months. 55 00:02:36,041 --> 00:02:40,201 Speaker 1: People treat you exactly how they feel about you. Oh 56 00:02:40,201 --> 00:02:45,481 Speaker 1: that's a good one. Yeah. Stop expecting everyone to have 57 00:02:45,561 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: the same heart as you do. You are too good 58 00:02:49,841 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: for someone who isn't sure about you. Distance really gives 59 00:02:53,561 --> 00:02:56,441 Speaker 1: you some clarity on how you actually feel about people. 60 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,561 Speaker 1: You look happier since you've started giving yourself the same 61 00:03:00,721 --> 00:03:04,921 Speaker 1: love that you've always given to other people. Realizing people 62 00:03:05,321 --> 00:03:08,281 Speaker 1: meant for you and not resenting them for it. That's growth. 63 00:03:09,361 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: You deserve the love you keep trying to give everyone else. 64 00:03:12,281 --> 00:03:15,161 Speaker 1: Or you are not the same person you were a 65 00:03:15,201 --> 00:03:19,281 Speaker 1: year ago, and I think that's beautiful. Stop trying to 66 00:03:19,321 --> 00:03:24,041 Speaker 1: make the wrong people love you in the right way. 67 00:03:24,121 --> 00:03:26,361 Speaker 1: It's okay to still cry over things you thought you 68 00:03:26,401 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: had moved past from. That's nice permission. The happiest you've 69 00:03:31,161 --> 00:03:35,681 Speaker 1: ever been won't be the happiest you'll ever be. I 70 00:03:35,721 --> 00:03:38,041 Speaker 1: hope you find it. Whatever it is that you're looking for, 71 00:03:39,041 --> 00:03:41,361 Speaker 1: or like this one ready or you can lose by 72 00:03:41,361 --> 00:03:43,481 Speaker 1: being real is something that's fake? 73 00:03:43,961 --> 00:03:48,721 Speaker 2: Oh damn damn straight. 74 00:03:49,201 --> 00:03:51,481 Speaker 1: You are worthy of love even on the days when 75 00:03:51,481 --> 00:03:56,121 Speaker 1: you don't feel lovable. Some people only come into your 76 00:03:56,161 --> 00:03:58,001 Speaker 1: life to show you what love is. 77 00:03:58,161 --> 00:04:01,201 Speaker 2: Not that true, that's so true. 78 00:04:01,441 --> 00:04:03,201 Speaker 1: So yeah, just a bunch of beautiful quotes. I love 79 00:04:03,241 --> 00:04:04,961 Speaker 1: that page. I feel like every time it pops up 80 00:04:05,121 --> 00:04:08,761 Speaker 1: my feed, I'm like, that's exactly what I needed to hear. Well, 81 00:04:08,761 --> 00:04:11,681 Speaker 1: that's exactly what I needed reminding of. I haven't read 82 00:04:11,721 --> 00:04:13,721 Speaker 1: it or heard it like that before, and it just 83 00:04:13,801 --> 00:04:15,241 Speaker 1: lands for me always at the right time. 84 00:04:15,561 --> 00:04:17,281 Speaker 2: What's that Instagram account I must follow? 85 00:04:17,761 --> 00:04:19,641 Speaker 1: It's emotionally, got perfect. 86 00:04:19,401 --> 00:04:22,121 Speaker 2: Emotionally You'll love it, okay, typing. 87 00:04:22,081 --> 00:04:25,601 Speaker 1: Yes, typing, click follow yes, done, followed. 88 00:04:25,801 --> 00:04:28,241 Speaker 2: No. Every time you read them, I'm like, oh, every 89 00:04:28,281 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: single one of them lands so much. Even if someone 90 00:04:31,201 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: just takes one thing from one of those quotes, that 91 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: takes so much from it, which is beautiful. Yeah, good 92 00:04:36,761 --> 00:04:37,561 Speaker 2: share of the week. 93 00:04:38,001 --> 00:04:39,281 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. 94 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,281 Speaker 2: So happening such a rollercoaster for so many different reasons. 95 00:04:43,801 --> 00:04:46,201 Speaker 2: And yeah, I feel like a lot of the conversations 96 00:04:46,201 --> 00:04:49,481 Speaker 2: we've been having recently has just been about really holding 97 00:04:49,521 --> 00:04:52,361 Speaker 2: the duality of life at the moment, like holding the 98 00:04:52,401 --> 00:04:55,881 Speaker 2: duality of like really high highs and then also equally 99 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,001 Speaker 2: holding really low lows and just being able to like 100 00:04:59,081 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: ride the wave of emotion that comes with that, you know, 101 00:05:03,161 --> 00:05:06,521 Speaker 2: and being able to hold it. It's hard because you're learning, 102 00:05:06,521 --> 00:05:08,121 Speaker 2: and you're learning how to flow with life in a 103 00:05:08,121 --> 00:05:10,561 Speaker 2: way that you're going one moment, I feel really good 104 00:05:10,601 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: and I'm celebrating something in my life, like us celebrating 105 00:05:13,521 --> 00:05:15,681 Speaker 2: what we're doing with the podcast and the growth that 106 00:05:15,721 --> 00:05:19,361 Speaker 2: we're having and even the events, and you know, celebrating. 107 00:05:19,081 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: Numbers being high thanever. Like there's so many cool things 108 00:05:21,361 --> 00:05:23,361 Speaker 1: we're like, we've achieved in such a short amount of 109 00:05:23,401 --> 00:05:25,801 Speaker 1: time of doing this together. And then there's other things 110 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,481 Speaker 1: they're like, holy fuck, I can't deal with life right now. 111 00:05:28,601 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 112 00:05:29,481 --> 00:05:32,681 Speaker 1: Well, I had my second brain surgery, So if you 113 00:05:32,721 --> 00:05:34,961 Speaker 1: are knew here, I got diagnosed with two different brain 114 00:05:35,001 --> 00:05:37,561 Speaker 1: aneurysms and had surgery for the first one last August 115 00:05:37,641 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: and the second one only like three weeks ago now 116 00:05:41,081 --> 00:05:43,641 Speaker 1: nearly three weeks ago. Out books on Tuesday. So I've 117 00:05:43,681 --> 00:05:46,841 Speaker 1: recovered really really well. I was quite scared going into 118 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: it because the first time I had it, Icee You 119 00:05:49,241 --> 00:05:52,041 Speaker 1: was really really hard. But this time it was a 120 00:05:52,081 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: little bit easier. I really loved the nurses I had, 121 00:05:54,641 --> 00:05:57,001 Speaker 1: and you and May came and visited me in ICU 122 00:05:57,121 --> 00:05:59,121 Speaker 1: on the first night, and you guys stayed for I 123 00:05:59,161 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: think like nearly three or four hours. Yeah, it was 124 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,041 Speaker 1: a few hours. Yeah, it's good. Put up chairs, you 125 00:06:03,121 --> 00:06:04,601 Speaker 1: jumped in bed with me. They brought me all these 126 00:06:04,681 --> 00:06:07,241 Speaker 1: snags and what were dinner, and we just like laughed 127 00:06:07,241 --> 00:06:08,961 Speaker 1: and hung out. Because when you're in ICU for the 128 00:06:09,001 --> 00:06:11,041 Speaker 1: twenty four hours, you're know allowed to get out of 129 00:06:11,081 --> 00:06:12,921 Speaker 1: bed and they have to wake you up or come 130 00:06:12,961 --> 00:06:16,361 Speaker 1: and do twelve tests on you every single hour. So 131 00:06:16,521 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: when you're uncomfortable, you're in a little bit of pain, 132 00:06:18,801 --> 00:06:22,761 Speaker 1: you're quite headachey, you haven't eaten, you've been on an anesthesia. Yeah, 133 00:06:22,801 --> 00:06:25,761 Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable. You've got a catheterine. It's not a good time. 134 00:06:25,921 --> 00:06:31,241 Speaker 3: Milking it to milk it. Yes, Oh my gosh. So yeah, 135 00:06:31,481 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: having you girls there start off that night the first surgery, 136 00:06:34,921 --> 00:06:37,241 Speaker 3: I didn't sleep the whole time I was in ICU, 137 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: so I was mental and emotionally breaking down. I was 138 00:06:40,121 --> 00:06:42,601 Speaker 3: calling Steve, I called Beth, and I just was not coping. 139 00:06:42,961 --> 00:06:44,561 Speaker 3: So I was really scared for how I was going 140 00:06:44,561 --> 00:06:47,041 Speaker 3: to feel mentally for that. But having you girls for 141 00:06:47,081 --> 00:06:48,601 Speaker 3: that first part of the night, I think you left 142 00:06:48,721 --> 00:06:50,721 Speaker 3: like nine p thirty. I was like, Okay, the first 143 00:06:50,761 --> 00:06:53,001 Speaker 3: quarter's done, and I watched a couple of episodes and 144 00:06:53,041 --> 00:06:54,281 Speaker 3: I got to midnight. I was like, all right, we're 145 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:54,921 Speaker 3: halfway there. 146 00:06:55,001 --> 00:06:57,041 Speaker 1: It's so good. Just make it to the morning. You've 147 00:06:57,041 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: got this. And I just, yeah, I coped a lot better, 148 00:07:00,041 --> 00:07:01,961 Speaker 1: I think because we were laughing too, and you girls 149 00:07:01,961 --> 00:07:03,721 Speaker 1: brought in such a beautiful energy. It just put me 150 00:07:03,721 --> 00:07:05,921 Speaker 1: in a high state. Yeah, And I felt my cut 151 00:07:06,001 --> 00:07:07,961 Speaker 1: was filled up and I was distracted from the fact 152 00:07:08,041 --> 00:07:10,841 Speaker 1: I just had brain surgery. So I actually got through 153 00:07:10,881 --> 00:07:12,881 Speaker 1: that a lot better than the previous time, which was 154 00:07:12,881 --> 00:07:16,321 Speaker 1: really cool. And then around ten am the next day, 155 00:07:16,401 --> 00:07:18,561 Speaker 1: I got to get up and go toilet and wheeled 156 00:07:18,641 --> 00:07:21,761 Speaker 1: up to my wardroom out of ICU, which was cool, 157 00:07:22,001 --> 00:07:24,481 Speaker 1: and then I stayed one more night after that. Recovered 158 00:07:24,561 --> 00:07:27,761 Speaker 1: really quickly, so that was really really nice as far 159 00:07:27,801 --> 00:07:29,801 Speaker 1: as brain surgery can go. Yeah, as nice as it 160 00:07:29,841 --> 00:07:32,721 Speaker 1: can be. Yeah, came home, had a night in bed, 161 00:07:32,761 --> 00:07:37,681 Speaker 1: and then oh, the next day, our worlds came tumbling down. 162 00:07:38,081 --> 00:07:41,201 Speaker 1: I got a phone call from Steve who said, you 163 00:07:41,241 --> 00:07:43,401 Speaker 1: need to call Megsie, and I was like, oh, why, 164 00:07:43,441 --> 00:07:46,921 Speaker 1: what's happened? He's like, just call Megan, And I just 165 00:07:47,081 --> 00:07:50,561 Speaker 1: knew in my gut. I just got that sinking gut 166 00:07:50,601 --> 00:07:54,881 Speaker 1: feeling that something had happened. And yeah, I called her, 167 00:07:55,041 --> 00:07:57,121 Speaker 1: and as soon as I saw her in Thor's face 168 00:07:57,441 --> 00:08:02,401 Speaker 1: on FaceTime, I just knew that something had happened. And yeah, 169 00:08:02,401 --> 00:08:05,321 Speaker 1: they let me know that Rambo had passed away, and 170 00:08:05,361 --> 00:08:09,001 Speaker 1: I just instantly started crying and I was like no, no, no, no, 171 00:08:09,121 --> 00:08:14,121 Speaker 1: like just I can't even describe the feelings of that moment. 172 00:08:14,561 --> 00:08:15,521 Speaker 2: It was awful. 173 00:08:15,561 --> 00:08:17,641 Speaker 1: Like I was with you, we were working on the podcast, 174 00:08:17,681 --> 00:08:20,041 Speaker 1: and we were at my house, high vibe, like catching 175 00:08:20,081 --> 00:08:23,241 Speaker 1: up on work, and I just crumbled and I remember 176 00:08:23,281 --> 00:08:27,241 Speaker 1: you just grabbing my hand and grabbing my leg and oh, 177 00:08:27,601 --> 00:08:30,201 Speaker 1: just I take some big breaths and went straight round 178 00:08:30,201 --> 00:08:33,681 Speaker 1: to the house and Steve had already been round, and yeah, 179 00:08:33,721 --> 00:08:36,561 Speaker 1: we all just like cuddled, makes you thought of myself, 180 00:08:37,121 --> 00:08:42,201 Speaker 1: just cuddled and cried and cried and cried. And yeah, 181 00:08:42,281 --> 00:08:44,801 Speaker 1: obviously I won't go into all the details as to 182 00:08:44,881 --> 00:08:48,601 Speaker 1: exactly what's happened, and it's their story to tell. Yeah, 183 00:08:48,801 --> 00:08:51,641 Speaker 1: but it's been fucked. If I'm being completely honest, it's 184 00:08:51,681 --> 00:08:57,201 Speaker 1: been awful, so sad and heartbreaking and missing this beautiful 185 00:08:57,201 --> 00:08:59,201 Speaker 1: little man that we only got twelve months with. We 186 00:08:59,321 --> 00:09:02,921 Speaker 1: literally celebrated his birthday only two weeks before, And honestly, 187 00:09:03,041 --> 00:09:05,961 Speaker 1: just like witnessing one of my best friends go through 188 00:09:06,001 --> 00:09:08,761 Speaker 1: this kind of pain, it is the worst. Like I 189 00:09:08,841 --> 00:09:13,121 Speaker 1: just can't imagine how her heart is feeling. It is 190 00:09:13,161 --> 00:09:17,521 Speaker 1: a mother's worst nightmare. I don't know there's anything else 191 00:09:17,561 --> 00:09:21,601 Speaker 1: worse that could happen to a mum. So, yeah, it's 192 00:09:21,641 --> 00:09:26,441 Speaker 1: been really really hard for everyone, especially obviously makes you thaw. Yeah, 193 00:09:26,841 --> 00:09:31,081 Speaker 1: going through this little sunny Yeah, So last couple of weeks, 194 00:09:31,081 --> 00:09:33,321 Speaker 1: I've just been round at the house and trying to 195 00:09:33,321 --> 00:09:36,001 Speaker 1: hold space for them and all of our friends and family, 196 00:09:36,321 --> 00:09:38,961 Speaker 1: cooking and cleaning and dropping flowers around, and we've always 197 00:09:38,961 --> 00:09:42,201 Speaker 1: got candles that are going in the house, and there's 198 00:09:42,241 --> 00:09:45,241 Speaker 1: beautiful celebration of life which she came along to as well. 199 00:09:45,281 --> 00:09:48,241 Speaker 2: It was really beautiful. It's done so beautifully. 200 00:09:48,361 --> 00:09:53,041 Speaker 1: The setup. There's like little butterflies everywhere and the flowers, and. 201 00:09:52,761 --> 00:09:56,481 Speaker 2: Everyone wore neutrals and wore light colors to celebrate in life. 202 00:09:56,641 --> 00:09:58,601 Speaker 1: I got to read a beautiful poem, and I read 203 00:09:58,601 --> 00:10:00,241 Speaker 1: a poem that was from me, and then I also 204 00:10:00,281 --> 00:10:02,041 Speaker 1: read a poem that I felt like. I got messages 205 00:10:02,041 --> 00:10:04,801 Speaker 1: from Rambo and a dream that I had and thaw 206 00:10:04,881 --> 00:10:06,561 Speaker 1: me he spoke and it was just, Yeah, it was 207 00:10:06,601 --> 00:10:09,961 Speaker 1: a really beautiful day to celebrate and remember him. Grief 208 00:10:10,041 --> 00:10:12,841 Speaker 1: is something we wanted to talk about more. It's so 209 00:10:13,361 --> 00:10:17,281 Speaker 1: different for everyone. Yeah, you can never predict how you're 210 00:10:17,321 --> 00:10:19,481 Speaker 1: going to cope or how you're going to manage, and 211 00:10:19,521 --> 00:10:22,641 Speaker 1: there's no manual or instructions on how you also support 212 00:10:22,681 --> 00:10:26,881 Speaker 1: someone going through that. I feel like I know Megsie 213 00:10:27,321 --> 00:10:29,921 Speaker 1: really deeply, Like our bond is very very deep, and 214 00:10:29,921 --> 00:10:32,681 Speaker 1: we're very very close. It's just one of those soul connections. 215 00:10:33,281 --> 00:10:36,641 Speaker 1: So I feel like I've been able to support and 216 00:10:36,681 --> 00:10:39,241 Speaker 1: hold her really well. And I can read her body 217 00:10:39,281 --> 00:10:42,201 Speaker 1: language quite well. I can just sense what she needs 218 00:10:42,281 --> 00:10:45,881 Speaker 1: in every moment. But yeahs just something you can't prepare for. 219 00:10:45,921 --> 00:10:48,681 Speaker 1: And then it's like you say the duality, Like that 220 00:10:48,841 --> 00:10:51,281 Speaker 1: same week we had our event. Yeah, I remember saying 221 00:10:51,281 --> 00:10:53,321 Speaker 1: to you. I was like, I should be excited for 222 00:10:53,401 --> 00:10:55,921 Speaker 1: this and I should be wanting to go. But if 223 00:10:55,961 --> 00:10:57,881 Speaker 1: I'm being honest, like I don't feel like being enjoy 224 00:10:58,001 --> 00:10:59,721 Speaker 1: right now, how am I going to show up for 225 00:10:59,761 --> 00:11:01,921 Speaker 1: these women? What if I cry the whole time? I 226 00:11:01,961 --> 00:11:04,921 Speaker 1: had so many fears coming up as well, And I remember, 227 00:11:04,921 --> 00:11:07,121 Speaker 1: you just give me permission, like it's okay if you cry. 228 00:11:07,321 --> 00:11:09,641 Speaker 1: You don't have to be a high vibe, you don't 229 00:11:09,681 --> 00:11:12,441 Speaker 1: have to be any certain way. I'll lead you. I've 230 00:11:12,481 --> 00:11:15,121 Speaker 1: got you. We've got this. And you know, the thought 231 00:11:15,121 --> 00:11:17,161 Speaker 1: did cross my mind of just canceling the whole event, 232 00:11:17,281 --> 00:11:19,841 Speaker 1: but we had girls that had booked accommodation, paid for flights, 233 00:11:19,881 --> 00:11:22,601 Speaker 1: were flying in, were so excited, so we decided to 234 00:11:22,641 --> 00:11:24,721 Speaker 1: go ahead with it. And it was beautiful. And we've just 235 00:11:24,761 --> 00:11:27,121 Speaker 1: had so many discussions, you know, Megsie and I have 236 00:11:27,321 --> 00:11:30,841 Speaker 1: you and I have about holding it all and being 237 00:11:30,921 --> 00:11:34,001 Speaker 1: okay that one moment you're not okay, and then the 238 00:11:34,041 --> 00:11:37,561 Speaker 1: next moment you can experience during happiness. And Sonny has 239 00:11:37,561 --> 00:11:40,201 Speaker 1: been a really beautiful light throughout this as well, because 240 00:11:40,281 --> 00:11:42,681 Speaker 1: I remember, I think it was the second day. We 241 00:11:42,681 --> 00:11:45,241 Speaker 1: were sitting on the couch Megzie and I and crying 242 00:11:45,281 --> 00:11:48,161 Speaker 1: and you know, talking about it all, and Sonny was 243 00:11:48,201 --> 00:11:50,281 Speaker 1: playing a game on an iPad, and all of a 244 00:11:50,321 --> 00:11:54,561 Speaker 1: sudden she was like slag queen, and we just like 245 00:11:54,681 --> 00:11:58,481 Speaker 1: broke our state and just started cracking up laughing, and 246 00:11:58,561 --> 00:12:00,881 Speaker 1: Megsie said, is this not the duality of life? Like 247 00:12:01,001 --> 00:12:03,481 Speaker 1: I'm in such pain and we're just grieving and so sad, 248 00:12:03,521 --> 00:12:06,881 Speaker 1: and then she just brings us playful energy and then 249 00:12:06,921 --> 00:12:08,921 Speaker 1: we go back to like talking about things, and then 250 00:12:08,921 --> 00:12:11,241 Speaker 1: she's like why did we do this gymnastics move? And 251 00:12:11,281 --> 00:12:14,401 Speaker 1: it's like, wow, you can experience so much all at once, 252 00:12:14,521 --> 00:12:17,641 Speaker 1: Like it all is there. Yeah, the happiness, the gratitude, 253 00:12:17,761 --> 00:12:21,841 Speaker 1: the joy, the memories, the deep dark grief, the pain, 254 00:12:22,001 --> 00:12:26,761 Speaker 1: the body aching, your heart breaking, the confusion, the anger, 255 00:12:26,841 --> 00:12:31,361 Speaker 1: the frustration, the why. Yeah, so many questions and it's 256 00:12:31,441 --> 00:12:34,201 Speaker 1: all there. And I feel like every single day you 257 00:12:34,321 --> 00:12:37,401 Speaker 1: kind of go through all those emotions and one moment 258 00:12:37,721 --> 00:12:41,281 Speaker 1: I'm so okay and getting through life or doing something, 259 00:12:41,881 --> 00:12:44,281 Speaker 1: and then the next moment, something will trigger it, whether 260 00:12:44,281 --> 00:12:47,721 Speaker 1: it's a photo, a song, a rainbow, anything, I'm like, 261 00:12:47,761 --> 00:12:50,961 Speaker 1: holy shit, and your whole body just feels this intense 262 00:12:51,001 --> 00:12:54,801 Speaker 1: amount of pain and sadness. It's wild. I feel like 263 00:12:54,841 --> 00:12:57,521 Speaker 1: you touched with it. I haven't had to experience much 264 00:12:57,561 --> 00:12:59,601 Speaker 1: grief in my life, but this is just a whole 265 00:12:59,641 --> 00:13:02,161 Speaker 1: nother thing, like a small child. It's just yeah, there 266 00:13:02,161 --> 00:13:02,921 Speaker 1: are no words. 267 00:13:03,121 --> 00:13:05,761 Speaker 2: It's so unbelievably sad because is just one of those 268 00:13:05,761 --> 00:13:07,521 Speaker 2: things where you hear of things like this happening all 269 00:13:07,561 --> 00:13:09,161 Speaker 2: the time, but you never think it's going to happen 270 00:13:09,201 --> 00:13:11,041 Speaker 2: to someone that you love and know or someone so 271 00:13:11,081 --> 00:13:12,681 Speaker 2: close to you as well, and then when it does, 272 00:13:12,721 --> 00:13:14,921 Speaker 2: it's like you do. You have to ride the wave 273 00:13:15,041 --> 00:13:17,201 Speaker 2: of grief and emotion, just like what makes me and 274 00:13:17,241 --> 00:13:19,161 Speaker 2: Thor are going through now and what you are as 275 00:13:19,201 --> 00:13:21,841 Speaker 2: a result as well, And like what you were saying, like, 276 00:13:21,961 --> 00:13:25,281 Speaker 2: grief is not linear, Like it's like you can't feel 277 00:13:25,481 --> 00:13:29,161 Speaker 2: emotions at the same time, right, but within a time 278 00:13:29,241 --> 00:13:33,041 Speaker 2: frame you can feel a multitude of different emotions. 279 00:13:32,481 --> 00:13:32,641 Speaker 3: You know. 280 00:13:32,761 --> 00:13:35,961 Speaker 2: So it's like in every given moment, you're present in 281 00:13:36,001 --> 00:13:39,041 Speaker 2: the emotion, whether it's grief, whether it's sadness, whether it's 282 00:13:39,121 --> 00:13:42,401 Speaker 2: frustration and anger and feeling like this is so fucking unfair. 283 00:13:43,081 --> 00:13:45,641 Speaker 2: And on the flip side of that, it's the exact 284 00:13:45,641 --> 00:13:48,601 Speaker 2: same thing of like celebration and celebrating the life and 285 00:13:48,721 --> 00:13:51,281 Speaker 2: enjoying the happy moments and having all the memories of 286 00:13:51,321 --> 00:13:53,401 Speaker 2: all the beautiful times that you've got to spend together, 287 00:13:54,161 --> 00:13:56,521 Speaker 2: you know, and then also outside of that as well, 288 00:13:57,241 --> 00:13:59,321 Speaker 2: everything else is happening in your life, being a mom, 289 00:13:59,561 --> 00:14:02,041 Speaker 2: you know, being a mom, tatala tataj, being a partner, 290 00:14:02,161 --> 00:14:04,881 Speaker 2: like you know, all the other things that exist outside 291 00:14:04,921 --> 00:14:07,201 Speaker 2: of grief as well, they all are existing at the 292 00:14:07,201 --> 00:14:10,521 Speaker 2: same time. And it's like having to just be thrown 293 00:14:10,561 --> 00:14:13,481 Speaker 2: into this experience and have to learn how to navigate. 294 00:14:13,121 --> 00:14:15,481 Speaker 1: It is such an experience. 295 00:14:15,121 --> 00:14:18,241 Speaker 2: Everyone learning how to now adjust to life and navigate 296 00:14:18,281 --> 00:14:20,561 Speaker 2: this with the grief that's attached to that. 297 00:14:22,001 --> 00:14:26,201 Speaker 1: And also I don't ever like compartmentalizing, but then sometimes 298 00:14:26,441 --> 00:14:29,161 Speaker 1: I have to. Yeah, with children, especially when you've got 299 00:14:29,201 --> 00:14:31,281 Speaker 1: your own children, you have to or you've got to 300 00:14:31,281 --> 00:14:34,121 Speaker 1: show up for something, for work. It's such an interesting, 301 00:14:34,321 --> 00:14:39,041 Speaker 1: big learning experience. But yeah, I'm just honored that I 302 00:14:39,081 --> 00:14:42,041 Speaker 1: can be there for Megsie, and she's the most amazing human. 303 00:14:42,201 --> 00:14:45,361 Speaker 1: Like hearing her speak about this whole experience, I was 304 00:14:45,401 --> 00:14:48,521 Speaker 1: already in awe and inspired by her, you know, since 305 00:14:48,521 --> 00:14:51,241 Speaker 1: I've known her, but hearing the way she speaks about 306 00:14:51,241 --> 00:14:54,321 Speaker 1: it as well as holding space for herself and allowing 307 00:14:54,321 --> 00:14:59,361 Speaker 1: everything to be there, it's incredible. We've had conversations, really beautiful. 308 00:14:59,361 --> 00:15:02,281 Speaker 1: One day, she was just really encouraging me to be 309 00:15:02,361 --> 00:15:04,481 Speaker 1: online and keep sharing my magic and doing my thing 310 00:15:04,481 --> 00:15:07,641 Speaker 1: and doing ram very proud, and it's just like so 311 00:15:07,801 --> 00:15:10,241 Speaker 1: beautiful of her. You know. We started to go fund 312 00:15:10,281 --> 00:15:11,921 Speaker 1: me account and raise some money just to be able 313 00:15:11,921 --> 00:15:14,681 Speaker 1: to pay for the funeral, and as a parent, even 314 00:15:14,721 --> 00:15:17,081 Speaker 1: the last year, she really hasn't been able to work 315 00:15:17,201 --> 00:15:20,401 Speaker 1: much because she's been giving every second to Rambo and 316 00:15:20,641 --> 00:15:23,841 Speaker 1: supporting him in his every needs. You knows, it's been 317 00:15:23,961 --> 00:15:26,761 Speaker 1: nice that everyone's come together and donated, whether it's five 318 00:15:26,801 --> 00:15:28,881 Speaker 1: dollars or ten dollars or one thousand dollars to help 319 00:15:28,881 --> 00:15:31,801 Speaker 1: support them and give them some space to grieve without 320 00:15:31,841 --> 00:15:34,721 Speaker 1: worrying about the financial burdens, you know, which. The go 321 00:15:34,841 --> 00:15:36,841 Speaker 1: fundme page is still up and running. If you haven't 322 00:15:36,841 --> 00:15:39,401 Speaker 1: donated yet, we'd really appreciate that. If it's five dollars 323 00:15:39,481 --> 00:15:41,441 Speaker 1: or twenty dollars, whatever you can afford, and if you 324 00:15:41,481 --> 00:15:44,001 Speaker 1: can't afford anything, that's okay to just send them the 325 00:15:44,081 --> 00:15:47,641 Speaker 1: marriage So the message of love, support and I just 326 00:15:47,721 --> 00:15:50,561 Speaker 1: really want to keep Rambo's light alive. Yeah, you keep 327 00:15:50,601 --> 00:15:52,881 Speaker 1: talking about him and all the lessons he taught us 328 00:15:52,921 --> 00:15:55,161 Speaker 1: and what he was here for, and there was so 329 00:15:55,321 --> 00:15:57,281 Speaker 1: much beauty in that, Like he really did bring us 330 00:15:57,321 --> 00:16:01,121 Speaker 1: a lot. So yeah, it's been it's been. 331 00:16:01,001 --> 00:16:02,961 Speaker 2: A big month, the whirlwind, And it's. 332 00:16:02,841 --> 00:16:05,601 Speaker 1: Crazy when someone like usks how you are, it's like 333 00:16:05,721 --> 00:16:07,841 Speaker 1: not okay, you know, and I don't think it's going 334 00:16:07,881 --> 00:16:11,081 Speaker 1: to be okay for a very long time. But still 335 00:16:11,241 --> 00:16:15,601 Speaker 1: allowing and giving myself permission to feel joyful in moments, 336 00:16:15,641 --> 00:16:20,161 Speaker 1: to still live life as life does go on. But 337 00:16:20,841 --> 00:16:23,001 Speaker 1: the grief is always there, and so is the love 338 00:16:23,041 --> 00:16:25,121 Speaker 1: and support and memories of him, Like that's not going 339 00:16:25,161 --> 00:16:28,041 Speaker 1: anywhere regardless of what's happening in the outside world. 340 00:16:28,681 --> 00:16:30,881 Speaker 2: I think as well. When it comes to grief, it's 341 00:16:30,921 --> 00:16:33,721 Speaker 2: almost like that routine and that normality that you have 342 00:16:33,801 --> 00:16:37,881 Speaker 2: of everyday life allows you to stay plugged into everyday life, 343 00:16:37,921 --> 00:16:40,361 Speaker 2: but doesn't mean that your grief isn't there. It just 344 00:16:40,441 --> 00:16:43,761 Speaker 2: means that you'll continue your routine to make sure that 345 00:16:43,801 --> 00:16:46,361 Speaker 2: you stay in a good mental place. Like I find 346 00:16:46,361 --> 00:16:48,601 Speaker 2: that routine and structure and stuff like that, no matter 347 00:16:48,641 --> 00:16:51,281 Speaker 2: what you're going through, allows you to go okay, I've 348 00:16:51,281 --> 00:16:53,081 Speaker 2: got to keep moving. I've got to keep moving. But 349 00:16:53,121 --> 00:16:55,081 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that you don't acknowledge the pain or 350 00:16:55,081 --> 00:16:57,321 Speaker 2: the fear, or the grief or the sadness that comes 351 00:16:57,321 --> 00:17:00,441 Speaker 2: with that, but you give yourself permission to go okay. 352 00:17:00,561 --> 00:17:02,441 Speaker 2: All of these other things in my life, like being 353 00:17:02,441 --> 00:17:04,721 Speaker 2: a parent, being a partner, you know, being a friend, 354 00:17:04,761 --> 00:17:07,201 Speaker 2: being a daughter, all of these things still exist. And 355 00:17:07,361 --> 00:17:10,201 Speaker 2: staying plugged into the people that really fill you up 356 00:17:10,481 --> 00:17:12,241 Speaker 2: are going to be able to help you move through 357 00:17:12,281 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 2: that grief so much more. 358 00:17:13,441 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: And not only that. I'm very aware and conscious of 359 00:17:16,921 --> 00:17:20,441 Speaker 1: my energy when I step into Megsi's energy and Megsi's home, 360 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,241 Speaker 1: So I think it's good for me to continue doing 361 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:27,321 Speaker 1: my stuff and fill my cup up and make sure 362 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm in a really good energetic state even before I 363 00:17:30,201 --> 00:17:35,001 Speaker 1: go into her house. If I'm feeling off center, not grounded, 364 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,601 Speaker 1: really emotional. I will do like a couple of big 365 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: breasts or put on like a two minute meditation, just 366 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: like ground myself before I go in and hold that 367 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: for her, which is really important because I want to 368 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,481 Speaker 1: be the best support person that I can be for her, 369 00:17:49,281 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: so I'm quite conscious of that. Yeah, Megsie's kind of 370 00:17:51,921 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: described it as an forty days postpartum after having a baby, 371 00:17:55,561 --> 00:17:57,281 Speaker 1: and a lot of cultures, it's the same when there's 372 00:17:57,281 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: a death in the family. It's like this forty days 373 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: you're very vulnerable and sensitive to outside noise, so you 374 00:18:02,761 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: naturally want to be at home and be more cocooned 375 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,001 Speaker 1: and internal as you go through that process before you're 376 00:18:08,041 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: ready to kind of step outside. And she's really honoring 377 00:18:11,001 --> 00:18:13,761 Speaker 1: that for herself and her family, and it's really beautiful 378 00:18:13,801 --> 00:18:17,561 Speaker 1: to see her honor that. I know one day, when 379 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,721 Speaker 1: she's ready, she wants to share Rambo's story and share 380 00:18:20,761 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: him with the world more. She's obviously not quite ready 381 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,321 Speaker 1: for that, and I will offer this space for her 382 00:18:25,321 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: on the podcast, and I'm sure she'll hop on her 383 00:18:27,441 --> 00:18:30,401 Speaker 1: stories and stuff when she's ready, So that'll be really 384 00:18:30,441 --> 00:18:32,281 Speaker 1: beautiful when she is. But for now, we just need 385 00:18:32,281 --> 00:18:37,401 Speaker 1: to send her love. And yeah, that's been the hardest thing. 386 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,001 Speaker 1: But yeah, in amongst that, we've had some really beautiful 387 00:18:40,041 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: things as well. We had our first Gallantine's event, which 388 00:18:43,201 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: was so beautiful, and yes I did cry at the event, 389 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: but that's the cool thing about this community that we have. 390 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: It's like holding space for each other and just allowing 391 00:18:52,201 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: whatever's there to be there with no judgment and no 392 00:18:54,961 --> 00:18:57,521 Speaker 1: shame and no guilt. We're just there for each other. 393 00:18:58,041 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: And it was a really beautiful night. It was really 394 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: really lovely. Everyone dressed up and came and had fun, 395 00:19:03,201 --> 00:19:05,521 Speaker 1: and you had the sex Soligist speak Qua did a 396 00:19:05,521 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: live podcast, but a beautiful sit down dinner. It was 397 00:19:08,441 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: just so nice. 398 00:19:09,201 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a really beautiful time, and it was 399 00:19:11,201 --> 00:19:13,281 Speaker 2: it was that duality that we were talking about, like 400 00:19:13,321 --> 00:19:15,681 Speaker 2: what you were saying, It's like there were moments where 401 00:19:15,761 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: it was like so beautiful and it was about the 402 00:19:17,521 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: event and we were fully immersed in it. But then 403 00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: there were also moments where everyone had their eyes closed 404 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,761 Speaker 2: and we were walking the girls through just a beautiful moment. 405 00:19:24,961 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: And there were times where you mentioned Megsie and Rambo 406 00:19:27,241 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 2: and celebration of life and all of those things and 407 00:19:29,481 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: it became really emotional. 408 00:19:30,721 --> 00:19:33,361 Speaker 1: But it's like all of it gets to exist, all 409 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:33,681 Speaker 1: of it. 410 00:19:33,721 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: Like we were there celebrating not only women coming together 411 00:19:36,521 --> 00:19:39,521 Speaker 2: in connection and what we're creating now in the space 412 00:19:39,521 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 2: that we're creating for others to come and feel safe, 413 00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:45,041 Speaker 2: but also acknowledging what's really the reality of what's happening 414 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,521 Speaker 2: in everyday life as well. And you know the pain 415 00:19:47,561 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: that you know, you and Megsie and Thor and Sonny 416 00:19:49,921 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: and everyone involved and everyone who knew Rambo and Megsie 417 00:19:53,321 --> 00:19:55,281 Speaker 2: who are feeling at the moment. You know, it's like 418 00:19:55,561 --> 00:19:57,721 Speaker 2: we don't have to ignore those things or pretend like 419 00:19:57,761 --> 00:20:00,801 Speaker 2: everything's okay. It's recognizing those things and going like, hey, 420 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,641 Speaker 2: this exists, and we're going to acknowledge it, and we're 421 00:20:03,681 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 2: also going to celebrate the beauty of life in the 422 00:20:05,681 --> 00:20:06,201 Speaker 2: same breath. 423 00:20:06,441 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: Definitely, a conversation makes in I have hard recently as 424 00:20:09,281 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: well as just not judging how other people grieve, like 425 00:20:12,521 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: how someone feels conveyed to the next person. Everyone just 426 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:18,641 Speaker 1: feels different and copes differently, and it's all okay. It's 427 00:20:18,681 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: going to be very dependent on your childhood and your 428 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,561 Speaker 1: upbringing and how you've coped with hard times and the 429 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: meaning that you're putting on the situation and are you 430 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,281 Speaker 1: a suppressor? Are you someone that needs a lot of support? Like, 431 00:20:30,281 --> 00:20:33,801 Speaker 1: everyone's just so different. So it's just allowing everyone to 432 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,241 Speaker 1: have their own experience. And you could see even through 433 00:20:36,321 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: the grieving process of different friends and family that everyone's 434 00:20:39,681 --> 00:20:42,201 Speaker 1: process was really different. Yea, and not one is right 435 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:45,201 Speaker 1: and not one is wrong, and that's how life should be. Hey, 436 00:20:45,201 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: It's like whatever decision you're making, however you're feeling about 437 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,721 Speaker 1: a situation, just allowing it to be there onor all 438 00:20:51,761 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: of it except it. Don't judge it, don't try and 439 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,241 Speaker 1: push anything away. It's all a part of your journey 440 00:20:58,241 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: and your experience, and it's real. You can't deny yourself 441 00:21:01,521 --> 00:21:04,881 Speaker 1: with feeling whatever you feel. Yeah, big lessons and all 442 00:21:04,921 --> 00:21:06,001 Speaker 1: that for sure. 443 00:21:06,481 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, just jumping back to the event, it was really 444 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,361 Speaker 2: cool to see how many women were there to support 445 00:21:13,521 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: in terms of Megsie and you and just holding that 446 00:21:16,321 --> 00:21:18,761 Speaker 2: space as well. It was really beautiful. There was so 447 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: much love and so much care and so much you know, consideration, 448 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,481 Speaker 2: and how beautiful it is that you know, women able 449 00:21:24,521 --> 00:21:26,761 Speaker 2: to see other women go through grief and also be 450 00:21:26,761 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: able to be like, hey, I've got you, like this 451 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,001 Speaker 2: tribe is here, this community is here, like I will 452 00:21:31,001 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: hold you through it. And from what I've seen is 453 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: a huge part of what megsi is shared is she 454 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 2: was overwhelmed with the amount of love and support that 455 00:21:38,801 --> 00:21:41,481 Speaker 2: was there from her community and just what a beautiful thing, 456 00:21:41,521 --> 00:21:43,521 Speaker 2: you know, And that's a huge part of the reason 457 00:21:43,561 --> 00:21:45,521 Speaker 2: why we wanted to bring all these women together is 458 00:21:46,001 --> 00:21:49,361 Speaker 2: specifically for that day about self love and about connecting 459 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: with themselves, but connecting with other women. Like so many 460 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,521 Speaker 2: women on that night were like messaged both Ashy and 461 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: I being like, you know, I met women that I 462 00:21:58,321 --> 00:22:01,801 Speaker 2: otherwise wouldn't have met outside and I'm so grateful for 463 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,321 Speaker 2: those connections. Yeah, you know, and a lot of them 464 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: also a willing and have come back, and I bought 465 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:10,241 Speaker 2: tickets to the next one. You were also coming alone. Yeah, 466 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:12,761 Speaker 2: you know. It's just a beautiful ground and a safe 467 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 2: leaping pad to do bigger things, to do hard things, 468 00:22:16,521 --> 00:22:18,121 Speaker 2: to be able to move through hard things, and also 469 00:22:18,201 --> 00:22:20,601 Speaker 2: feel supported by women that you're surrounded by. 470 00:22:20,801 --> 00:22:21,801 Speaker 1: That's so important. 471 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: That was incredible. 472 00:22:22,721 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: One particular lady Megan, her name is not makes me 473 00:22:25,721 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: my girlfriend At Megan, she came to one of my 474 00:22:27,961 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: ultimate girls. They out and before she even bought a 475 00:22:30,201 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: ticket to that, she was sharing with me in DMS. 476 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,121 Speaker 1: She had lost her husband and she was going through 477 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,801 Speaker 1: a lot of grief and I just instantly felt this 478 00:22:37,961 --> 00:22:41,041 Speaker 1: really strong pool to really encourage her to come. I 479 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,201 Speaker 1: just thought the day would just be really good for her. 480 00:22:43,721 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: And the moment she arrived at that first event, we 481 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,761 Speaker 1: just like hugged and felt this connection and I really 482 00:22:48,801 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: held her in her grief and supported her through that day. 483 00:22:51,321 --> 00:22:53,001 Speaker 1: And she came to another one and did the same. 484 00:22:53,041 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: And then when she arrived I didn't even know she 485 00:22:55,241 --> 00:22:57,801 Speaker 1: had a ticket. When she arrived at the Gallantine's event, 486 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my gosh, you're here. And 487 00:22:59,721 --> 00:23:02,241 Speaker 1: then we huddled and she held me and she's like, 488 00:23:02,281 --> 00:23:05,561 Speaker 1: I've got you. I promise there is light. It will 489 00:23:05,561 --> 00:23:08,961 Speaker 1: feel better soon, and like I just broke down, ball 490 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: my eyes out. But it was like so nice that 491 00:23:10,961 --> 00:23:13,001 Speaker 1: I got to hold space for her, and then she 492 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: was holding space for me, and I'm like, is this 493 00:23:14,761 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: not sister her? This is just so beautiful human, isn't she? 494 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:21,721 Speaker 1: This is what it's about. This is what our events 495 00:23:21,761 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: are about. It's like love, connection, open hearts, being there 496 00:23:25,481 --> 00:23:26,001 Speaker 1: for each other. 497 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:29,281 Speaker 2: Oh God, that's okay, let it in. 498 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,801 Speaker 1: I'm like, let's get through this episode without crime. It 499 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: was beautiful. Yeah, even when I cry nowt it's like 500 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,281 Speaker 1: tears of pain and sadness. Then also just so much 501 00:23:37,281 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: gratitude and love. The love for Maisie has just like 502 00:23:41,241 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: intensified so much, you know. Yeah, anyways, so yes, we 503 00:23:45,441 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: just wanted to talk about that and honor Megsie and 504 00:23:47,961 --> 00:23:50,201 Speaker 1: Rambo and thought and just allow. 505 00:23:50,001 --> 00:23:52,561 Speaker 2: It all to be here. This is a huge part 506 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: of like the conversations not only do we have in 507 00:23:54,961 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: everyday life, but what we want to bring onto the 508 00:23:56,721 --> 00:23:59,561 Speaker 2: podcast and exactly what we're talking about now. It's like, yes, 509 00:23:59,681 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: there are beautiful things that were going through. They're also 510 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: really challenging things that were going through. But it's like 511 00:24:04,001 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 2: allowing it all to be there and not making it 512 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: wrong for being there. Like, whatever you feel in the moment, 513 00:24:09,041 --> 00:24:11,241 Speaker 2: give yourself permission to feel it. You know, It's like 514 00:24:11,321 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 2: let it in, let it come forward, because the moment 515 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,281 Speaker 2: you feel it, you're healing little parts of that part 516 00:24:16,321 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: of your heart that feels broken, you know, and you 517 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 2: get to heal that and move through it and never 518 00:24:22,241 --> 00:24:24,801 Speaker 2: at all forget, but allow you to put those pieces 519 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,041 Speaker 2: back in your heart that are like hurting right now, 520 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 2: you know, yeap. 521 00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: And then back to the events. So we've done our 522 00:24:32,001 --> 00:24:34,321 Speaker 1: first one now and we're planning our second one, and 523 00:24:34,321 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: we release tickets. Within four days. 524 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,561 Speaker 2: They were all sold out, and we doubled the amount 525 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: of tickets this time as well. Yeah, it's just going 526 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: to be such a deep a dive into yourself, into 527 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,561 Speaker 2: personal development, into your psyche, into your behavior. 528 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: Just a lot deeper too. You're really going to get 529 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:52,801 Speaker 1: to know players of yourself that you might not have 530 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: explored before. And you know, one or two of the 531 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,201 Speaker 1: exercises will be a little bit uncomfortable, but we want 532 00:24:58,201 --> 00:24:59,921 Speaker 1: to show you that this work can also be fun, 533 00:25:00,041 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: and it can be safe, and it can be in 534 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,361 Speaker 1: a supportive environment where you want to do more of it. 535 00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:06,961 Speaker 1: It's like whoa, that that was edgy, Okay, what next? 536 00:25:07,041 --> 00:25:09,041 Speaker 1: Like I'm ready, you feel ready, and when you feel 537 00:25:09,041 --> 00:25:12,801 Speaker 1: that growth, that progression, it's really exciting and motivating. 538 00:25:12,921 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it might feel edgy in the beginning, but 539 00:25:14,801 --> 00:25:18,561 Speaker 2: like what you just said, when you feel the benefit 540 00:25:18,761 --> 00:25:20,721 Speaker 2: of doing the things like that and you go, oh 541 00:25:20,721 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 2: my god, Oh my god, I've just been able to 542 00:25:22,681 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 2: overcome something huge in my life as a result of 543 00:25:25,201 --> 00:25:28,561 Speaker 2: seeing that thing. Yes, it's life changing, and so it 544 00:25:28,681 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: really is for the growth seekers who love this side 545 00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: of personal development, who love to grow, who love to 546 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,801 Speaker 2: become a better version of themselves, and who aren't afraid 547 00:25:37,041 --> 00:25:39,201 Speaker 2: of looking at the scarier things to look at. 548 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,801 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had dinner last night with Meg, and I 549 00:25:41,801 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: said to the girls because there were deep in conversations 550 00:25:43,801 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: about our intimate relationships and just things that have shown 551 00:25:47,201 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: up for us, things we want to improve, things are 552 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,561 Speaker 1: struggling with. And I was like, all right, let's be 553 00:25:50,761 --> 00:25:54,321 Speaker 1: really real with each other. What is your biggest flaw 554 00:25:54,481 --> 00:25:56,961 Speaker 1: or fault or just something that you don't want to 555 00:25:57,001 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: show up like that in your relationship? And it was 556 00:25:59,201 --> 00:26:00,521 Speaker 1: so cool. We were kind of sat there for a 557 00:26:00,561 --> 00:26:03,321 Speaker 1: minute thinking about it, and everything each one of us 558 00:26:03,321 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: said were like, wow, so relatable. I've also done that. 559 00:26:06,001 --> 00:26:07,801 Speaker 1: But it was just cool to highlight it because it 560 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: was in a safe environment where we knew we wouldn't 561 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: shame each other for it, but to actually say it 562 00:26:12,761 --> 00:26:15,561 Speaker 1: out loud and be like, oh, like I could see 563 00:26:15,561 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: even Meg's face just be like, how would your man 564 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: feel if you were to do X y Z instead 565 00:26:20,801 --> 00:26:23,641 Speaker 1: of that? He was like, Wow, he would feel so amazing. 566 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,281 Speaker 1: I was like, he would feel solid up and so 567 00:26:25,441 --> 00:26:27,481 Speaker 1: loved and so appreciate it. Then it just overflows to 568 00:26:27,521 --> 00:26:29,801 Speaker 1: you and the kids and it's like this beautiful bounce 569 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,161 Speaker 1: back and forth. And we had our own stuff too 570 00:26:32,201 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: that came up with us in the relationship, and then 571 00:26:34,521 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: we were reflecting on things that we've improved on and 572 00:26:36,481 --> 00:26:38,881 Speaker 1: that have helped our relationships, and it was just so cool. 573 00:26:39,201 --> 00:26:40,641 Speaker 1: That's what we want to bring to the events. It's 574 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,401 Speaker 1: a safe space where you get to talk about that 575 00:26:42,441 --> 00:26:44,961 Speaker 1: hard shit, look in the mirror and be like, oh, 576 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,001 Speaker 1: I can see where I'm showing up. And if you 577 00:26:47,041 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: will come to one of these events and you just 578 00:26:48,441 --> 00:26:50,921 Speaker 1: take one thing away from it, it can literally change 579 00:26:50,921 --> 00:26:53,961 Speaker 1: your life. Once you realize how you're showing up or 580 00:26:54,001 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: a behavior, a pattern that causes conflict or icky energy 581 00:26:58,521 --> 00:27:01,001 Speaker 1: or anything even not even with the partner, just within yourself. 582 00:27:01,521 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: Once you've got that awareness and you realize that, then 583 00:27:03,681 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: you have the power to make change. You're not aware 584 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,641 Speaker 1: of it and you're not doing this deep dive work, 585 00:27:07,801 --> 00:27:10,321 Speaker 1: you're not being asked the right questions and being in 586 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: the environments where you can really dive in nothing changes, 587 00:27:13,761 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: if nothing changes, not at all. So I'm just so 588 00:27:16,321 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: excited for them to have these realizations and to be 589 00:27:19,201 --> 00:27:21,721 Speaker 1: able to walk out of there being like, holy shit, 590 00:27:21,801 --> 00:27:23,681 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that about myself, but now I get 591 00:27:23,681 --> 00:27:24,881 Speaker 1: a choice on how I do that. 592 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 2: Differently, and being held in it. Know that you're so 593 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 2: deeply loved in it. Yeah, Like even last night, like 594 00:27:29,681 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: Meg was like, oh my god, my heart is beating 595 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,161 Speaker 2: so fast. She was like I'm shaking, like we love 596 00:27:34,241 --> 00:27:36,961 Speaker 2: you're Yeah, like it's so fine, You're so safe here, 597 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:37,721 Speaker 2: like it's okay. 598 00:27:37,721 --> 00:27:38,801 Speaker 1: And then at the end of it, she was like, 599 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,201 Speaker 1: oh my. 600 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,721 Speaker 2: God, Like I swear I would be so triggered if 601 00:27:41,721 --> 00:27:43,321 Speaker 2: I share this to my partner, But with you guys, 602 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:45,241 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I feel like I can just chill 603 00:27:45,321 --> 00:27:45,721 Speaker 2: and now. 604 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: I can go home and have this conversation with zero 605 00:27:48,761 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: like fire behind it. Yeah, it was cool, Like we 606 00:27:51,281 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: feel the same. 607 00:27:51,921 --> 00:27:52,801 Speaker 2: We love this stuff. 608 00:27:52,921 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, my girlhood is so import it. 609 00:27:54,921 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: This is why we bring it in because it's like 610 00:27:56,561 --> 00:27:59,321 Speaker 2: that fury and that fire and that initial trigger that 611 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,321 Speaker 2: you might be feeling around certain things. You might take 612 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: that immediately to your partner, or to the family member, 613 00:28:03,961 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 2: or to a friend. But it's like in this place 614 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: where we know it's ultimate level of safety. We know 615 00:28:08,961 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: that we can bring that initial response in first and 616 00:28:11,521 --> 00:28:13,441 Speaker 2: then go hey, okay, cool, how do I want to 617 00:28:13,481 --> 00:28:15,721 Speaker 2: respond to? Who do I want to be? And it's 618 00:28:15,761 --> 00:28:19,321 Speaker 2: just always a choice how you respond, how you treat people, 619 00:28:19,481 --> 00:28:21,921 Speaker 2: how you behave what you choose to do in any 620 00:28:21,961 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: given situation. So this event in itself will be a 621 00:28:25,281 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: lot about taking back the power of you being in 622 00:28:28,241 --> 00:28:30,681 Speaker 2: control of yourself and how you show up and yeah, 623 00:28:31,281 --> 00:28:33,441 Speaker 2: creating the life that you actually want to live. 624 00:28:33,561 --> 00:28:35,441 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. I think we were talking about something 625 00:28:35,441 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: the other day that I wanted to share it, and it was like, 626 00:28:38,041 --> 00:28:41,441 Speaker 1: how you show up when you're triggered? There's your work. Yes, 627 00:28:41,921 --> 00:28:44,641 Speaker 1: it's all good to be rosy and happy and kind 628 00:28:44,841 --> 00:28:48,961 Speaker 1: and respectful when things are smooth. When you're triggered, how 629 00:28:49,001 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: do you show up? How do you react? What do 630 00:28:51,521 --> 00:28:55,081 Speaker 1: you say or post online? Or what's your energy? What's 631 00:28:55,081 --> 00:28:55,761 Speaker 1: your actions? 632 00:28:56,161 --> 00:28:57,321 Speaker 2: How do you treat that person? 633 00:28:57,481 --> 00:28:57,681 Speaker 1: Yeah? 634 00:28:57,761 --> 00:28:59,561 Speaker 2: What do you say? What are the words that you. 635 00:28:59,561 --> 00:29:02,641 Speaker 1: Use like that is the work, that's your mirror of 636 00:29:02,721 --> 00:29:06,201 Speaker 1: exactly where you're at. That always shows someone's true colors 637 00:29:06,361 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: as to how they're responding in situations when they're triggered. 638 00:29:09,561 --> 00:29:12,121 Speaker 1: And if you can remain in a grounded place and 639 00:29:12,201 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: be able to hold space that person whatever's coming up 640 00:29:14,441 --> 00:29:16,761 Speaker 1: for them, and be able to still speak your truth 641 00:29:16,841 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: and hold your boundaries and have your standards in place, 642 00:29:20,001 --> 00:29:23,521 Speaker 1: but in a kind respectful way, amazing. That's coals. 643 00:29:23,601 --> 00:29:25,641 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can be that personal and it's learning how 644 00:29:25,681 --> 00:29:28,361 Speaker 2: to become that person, isn't it, Because it's like okay, cool. Yes, 645 00:29:28,521 --> 00:29:30,841 Speaker 2: you might have a plan in place, but when you're triggered, 646 00:29:30,881 --> 00:29:33,801 Speaker 2: do you use that plan? Like how quickly does that 647 00:29:33,801 --> 00:29:36,681 Speaker 2: shit go out the window? Exactly when you're triggered and 648 00:29:36,761 --> 00:29:37,521 Speaker 2: you're pissed. 649 00:29:37,281 --> 00:29:39,081 Speaker 1: Off at someone? You can talk the talk, but are 650 00:29:39,161 --> 00:29:41,321 Speaker 1: you walking? You can do all the self development of 651 00:29:41,321 --> 00:29:43,601 Speaker 1: the world. You can read all the books, podcasts, get 652 00:29:43,641 --> 00:29:46,241 Speaker 1: the coaches, do all the things. If you're not actually 653 00:29:46,281 --> 00:29:48,401 Speaker 1: implementing it when shit's hard, what are you doing? It 654 00:29:48,401 --> 00:29:50,281 Speaker 1: doesn't mean shit. It does not mean it doesn't mean shit. 655 00:29:50,481 --> 00:29:51,281 Speaker 1: Words mean nothing. 656 00:29:51,721 --> 00:29:53,121 Speaker 2: Actions, your actions are everything. 657 00:29:53,241 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: It shows your true character. Yeah, I love that. 658 00:29:55,281 --> 00:29:57,281 Speaker 2: And also as well, it's acknowledging that even in the 659 00:29:57,281 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: moments where you do have outbursts and stuff, it's like 660 00:29:59,481 --> 00:30:02,441 Speaker 2: not shaming yourself for them, but recognizing that you're doing 661 00:30:02,481 --> 00:30:03,801 Speaker 2: it is the first step. 662 00:30:03,801 --> 00:30:05,601 Speaker 1: If you could be aware of. 663 00:30:05,441 --> 00:30:08,001 Speaker 2: The things that you're doing, you're already twenty five percent 664 00:30:08,041 --> 00:30:10,601 Speaker 2: of the way to overcoming that thing. You know. All 665 00:30:10,641 --> 00:30:13,041 Speaker 2: it just becomes about is going, okay, I recognize I 666 00:30:13,081 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: do ABC, who do I want to be, and going okay, 667 00:30:16,521 --> 00:30:19,441 Speaker 2: the person that I inspire to be would. 668 00:30:19,161 --> 00:30:21,441 Speaker 1: Show up in this way would be calm. They can't. 669 00:30:21,561 --> 00:30:23,841 Speaker 2: Yeah, they would say a certain thing, they would behave 670 00:30:23,881 --> 00:30:24,601 Speaker 2: a certain way. 671 00:30:24,481 --> 00:30:27,081 Speaker 1: It speak slowly, your body language would be different, whatever 672 00:30:27,121 --> 00:30:27,601 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah. 673 00:30:27,601 --> 00:30:29,481 Speaker 2: They would take time when they're triggered to go, hey, 674 00:30:29,521 --> 00:30:31,521 Speaker 2: I need five minutes to myself so that I don't 675 00:30:31,521 --> 00:30:32,601 Speaker 2: say something I'm going to regret. 676 00:30:32,641 --> 00:30:34,001 Speaker 1: I love you, but I love you. 677 00:30:34,121 --> 00:30:36,081 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love you. This doesn't mean I'm leaving. This 678 00:30:36,201 --> 00:30:38,401 Speaker 2: means that I want to work through things. But this 679 00:30:38,441 --> 00:30:41,161 Speaker 2: fight wasn't productive, Like you know, whatever it is, yeah, 680 00:30:41,201 --> 00:30:44,041 Speaker 2: whatever it is, and just looking at those things and going, okay, 681 00:30:44,121 --> 00:30:46,921 Speaker 2: I'm choosing to be that behaving in that way. 682 00:30:47,201 --> 00:30:47,481 Speaker 1: Yeah. 683 00:30:47,601 --> 00:30:49,841 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's forever work, It really is. We say 684 00:30:49,881 --> 00:30:50,721 Speaker 2: this all the time. 685 00:30:50,561 --> 00:30:53,641 Speaker 1: Like conscious practice and every moment and every disagreement and 686 00:30:53,721 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: every iffy situation, every time life gets hard, you have 687 00:30:57,481 --> 00:31:00,841 Speaker 1: to be so consciously aware and choosing to show up 688 00:31:00,841 --> 00:31:01,121 Speaker 1: in the way. 689 00:31:01,241 --> 00:31:03,521 Speaker 2: Yeah you're proud of And something is going to constantly 690 00:31:03,521 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: trigger you until you choose to look at it, until 691 00:31:06,481 --> 00:31:09,281 Speaker 2: you choose to behave differently towards it, and at the 692 00:31:09,361 --> 00:31:11,801 Speaker 2: end of the day, like, no one can force you 693 00:31:11,841 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: to behave a certain way, Like that's on you. And 694 00:31:14,321 --> 00:31:16,761 Speaker 2: if you're experiencing the same thing over and over again, 695 00:31:16,801 --> 00:31:18,801 Speaker 2: it's also an opportunity of going, Okay, what am I 696 00:31:18,881 --> 00:31:21,641 Speaker 2: missing here? Like what haven't I looked at? Where can 697 00:31:21,721 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: I do better? Like where can I improve this situation? 698 00:31:24,921 --> 00:31:26,681 Speaker 2: Or you know, how can I approach this in a 699 00:31:26,681 --> 00:31:27,281 Speaker 2: different way? 700 00:31:27,481 --> 00:31:27,681 Speaker 3: Yeah? 701 00:31:27,841 --> 00:31:31,041 Speaker 1: What am I allowing? Yeah? Yeah, so true. I feel 702 00:31:31,041 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: like we could talk about this for hours. Oh my god. 703 00:31:33,761 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: Oh but that's our life catch up. It's been a 704 00:31:36,281 --> 00:31:39,241 Speaker 1: big month. But sending love out there to anyone who's 705 00:31:39,281 --> 00:31:41,561 Speaker 1: going through a really hard time, whether it is grief, 706 00:31:41,921 --> 00:31:45,441 Speaker 1: whether it is losing your job, financial stress, going through 707 00:31:45,441 --> 00:31:50,241 Speaker 1: a breakup, battling whatever is health wise. Just we're sending 708 00:31:50,241 --> 00:31:52,121 Speaker 1: you so much love. Yeah, a lot of people in 709 00:31:52,121 --> 00:31:54,121 Speaker 1: this world need a bit more extra love, I think, 710 00:31:54,161 --> 00:31:56,281 Speaker 1: so tius is always a choice to choose it. 711 00:31:56,601 --> 00:31:58,841 Speaker 2: And also as well, just like giving yourself permission to 712 00:31:58,841 --> 00:32:00,961 Speaker 2: be kind to yourself at the moment, because I think 713 00:32:00,961 --> 00:32:03,921 Speaker 2: it's easy to be compassionate towards others, but like, what 714 00:32:04,041 --> 00:32:06,121 Speaker 2: do you need right now and how can you give 715 00:32:06,161 --> 00:32:08,001 Speaker 2: more of that to yourself? So true? 716 00:32:08,121 --> 00:32:11,841 Speaker 1: Yeah, backdrop, thanks for joining us, guys. I'm going to 717 00:32:11,921 --> 00:32:13,561 Speaker 1: leave the go fud me account for mekesit in our 718 00:32:13,561 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: description box below and yeah, we'll see you guys on Wednesday. Bye.