1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: The Marvel miracle that announced the game's next superstar, the 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: ripple effects of the saints remarkable comebacks. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: The unending misery of North Melbourne. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 3: Are the Kangaroos stuck in the rebuild doom loop and. 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Our coaches have their teams on the front row of 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: the grids and eyeing each other. Soon enough Matthew Nicks 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: and Craig McRae join us. 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 4: We talked about is this step into it, embrace all of. 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: It in the room and rent it. 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that. 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 3: They're on the side of Courtia with the bray, take 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: the man on. 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: They played the best footy I've ever seen at the 14 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: start of the season, and in president left the cup, 15 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: I older said. 16 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 3: Of course they do. 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Is the stuff that legends are made of. What is 18 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: holding the ball? 19 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now. 20 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: I can do something wrong, you know, And I need 21 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: to gain and the boards. 22 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 5: Actually the fans lover and with no fans, no through 23 00:00:53,080 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 5: sixty year old. 24 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: Being gentle with the Melbourne supporters in your life, how's 25 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: the mood. 26 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: Check, here's your throat, there's your voice. My moods about 27 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: as good as your voice fading. 28 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: As that game went on, I was like, your voice 29 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: just dropped out, had nothing left at the end of it. 30 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: I told you the games have been down too long, Jared, 31 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: I said that the first show should have finished the 32 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: three quarter time. I'm laughing because there's no other choice. 33 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: Fellows. 34 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: Hum up, Yeah, it's extraordinary. I was about to say, 35 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like it, haven't. It was a record. 36 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: No one's ever seen anything like it. So to sit 37 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: on my own, I was just in a room and 38 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: watch it all unfolded. I got up and folded the washing. 39 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 3: When there's three goals to go do something TV, it's. 40 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: Not going to last. 41 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: But for Saints fans, I'm trying to put myself in 42 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: their in their seats. They got three quarters time, they're 43 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: just about well. They checked out forty five points. 44 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: Some of them are on the train on the way 45 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: home watching on their phone. 46 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: And then they've had the best quarter. We bemow in 47 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: the facts that there's not much to celebrate. You gotta 48 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: wait for premier ships or finals, but you celebrate those 49 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: moments there. They're once in lifers. So well done, says 50 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: good on you. 51 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: It's selvage. 52 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: The weekend, we forecast with a little bit of pessimism 53 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: how this round was shaping on Wednesday night. 54 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: This is what it ended up looking like. 55 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: Five hundred and seventeen points combined, the highest in a 56 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: round since Round four twenty fourteen. 57 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 2: The only surprises it wasn't. 58 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: The record the sixth highest round margin in history. 59 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: So I was thinking, Gaz, you called two games with the. 60 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: Combined margin of one hundred and ninety one points. You 61 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: didn't have the biggest player. 62 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 3: Now I know it's extraordinary. So the dogs flex their 63 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: attacking muscle. We'll talk about the adelaid Crows in the showdown, 64 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: and then the poor old Cangas son't know that's food 65 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: for We have greeg Swan tomorrow night, which you're about 66 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: to tell us for his first sit down. 67 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: This is for many teams. 68 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: They are limping it to the line, not palatable for 69 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: those that pay big money to broadcast. 70 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: All right, here's what we have lined up. 71 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: Craig mccrage, Matthew Neics have their teams one and two 72 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: on the ladder and they're drawn to meet in round 73 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: twenty three. So the timing couldn't be better. The on 74 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: the couch team is fully assembled, Jack and Jordan with 75 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: Nathan Jonathan here to go through all that transpired. Tomorrow night, 76 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: Greg Swan is here at the desk carry Sheezel and 77 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: Will Day youngsters and their journey through a season. Will's 78 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: just back, so he's we'll see how he survived. The 79 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: first up for Razor Ey. We'll be talking sixty sixty 80 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: six and free kicks and configurations of the like. And 81 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: then Wednesday night, our favorite pair in Adam Simpson and 82 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: John longmyt together Tom Green on the eve of the 83 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: Giants game against the Bulldogs, and that is one hell 84 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: of a starting points round, all right. Every Monday Night 85 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: starts with the awarding the GVPS the Most Valuable Player 86 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: and the estimation of Gary Lyon from the previous round. 87 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: The prize is the most sought after in footy. It 88 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: is fining down right now for the Mustang GT Fastback 89 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: from Ford Iconic Design, Unreal Performance fively. The V eight 90 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: engine goes like a dream and valued at ninety three 91 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, It's. 92 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: No poison cellice. It's the most magnificent prize in footy. 93 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: But this is I was handed a very tough task 94 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: and this week it's the toughest of the. 95 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: Year, highest SPARTA clear to get in. 96 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so eleven goals didn't get a vote. 97 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: Still, we expelled from the forwards, so I know, I know. 98 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: So Philthorpe didn't get a vote. Callahan no votes, Young 99 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: no votes. So I apologized, But they got to go 100 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 3: past these three boys. Matthew Row gets a vote and 101 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: the Gold Coast Sons went over Brisbane. 102 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: Lines was substantial. It was massive. 103 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: They're coming off a horrible loss, they're coming off of 104 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: Belding earlier in the piece in the Q clash, there 105 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: was no other option for them to get moving and 106 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 3: that man was right slap bang in the middle of 107 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: it again. Jared thirty seven touches, twelve tackles, fifteen clearances, 108 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: twenty three contested. He is a phenomenal footballer. 109 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: That bot landmark moment, that yeah, reframes their whole journey 110 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: and I reckon two, Nick decoss. 111 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: How can you play in the manner that he did 112 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: and not get three. Well we'll find out in the moment. 113 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: But he's he's motoring towards some higher honors. I don't 114 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: higher than the GVP. Maybe there's one other that might 115 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: be rated a bit higher and he'd be a massing plenty, 116 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: but he was just beyond. He was on another level. 117 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: Forty two and three, four goals, three goals. Did you 118 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: say much of that? 119 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was the reason to keep watching otherwise, Yeah, 120 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: he had it. Just it was one of those days 121 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: you could tell when the best was doing his thing. 122 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: And like a lot of them, this bloke was nowhere 123 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 3: near the best player on the ground, nowhere near it. 124 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: He was at the end of it. And as a 125 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: nam miller he played it. 126 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: He played a very good game because he's an outstanding player, 127 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,119 Speaker 3: but his kicking was off, he was missing targets, album 128 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: were all over him, and he was under no consideration 129 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: for anything like a GVP. 130 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: And at the end you can't. 131 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: Not give it to him because he won a game 132 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: in a fashion that you've not ever seen in recent times, 133 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: and they've done something that no one's ever done and 134 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: he was the one in front of it. 135 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: And we're going to unpack all of. 136 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: This later, so I don't worry if you think we're 137 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: just brushing over it. But what an extraordinary footballer, What 138 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 3: an extraordinary footballer who's out of contract in the against 139 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: the sweat and bullets. 140 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: Like the angles in this are amazing. But so he 141 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: starts the year as a damaging halfback. He goes into 142 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: the middle and rival coaches are happy to declare him 143 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: a top ten player. And then with the game in 144 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: the line, he goes to full forward and takes an 145 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: epicager to level it up. And then anyway, this is 146 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: what it looks like. Patrick Dangerfield's on nine. Matt Row 147 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: moves to seven camera giants in contention, yeah, in camera 148 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: soon have to. 149 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: Be the pressure unfaltering. 150 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 3: But they were three worthy of oguinners. But there were 151 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: plenty of them throughout the course of the round. 152 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: All right, that spins perfectly into the agenda because, as 153 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: we've never seen it before, and that's not sporting hyperbole, 154 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 1: a record that had lasted thirty years for last quarter 155 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: comebacks fell at the feet of the Saints yesterday with 156 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: some ingenuity, with strategic genius. 157 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: And with a young star on the rise. 158 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 6: Oh my god, oh my god, deltable. 159 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 7: Goodness, unbelievable, unbelievable, this is unbelievable, inscribable. 160 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: Dama marbel Stadium. 161 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 6: What about rossa three quarter a time you're that far 162 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 6: behind what's the address this gap posy boys. 163 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:44,559 Speaker 4: Listening. 164 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 6: Ah, but we. 165 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 7: Did talk about the joy of playing foot you like, 166 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 7: don't let it get your dawn, like as a kid, 167 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 7: like you'd love to be here. 168 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 5: So we're just dive into that space. 169 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 7: That's what we spoke about a bit. 170 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 6: Right thought these six points down at three quarter a time, 171 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 6: it would be all time, the greatest if l fear 172 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: Fel comeback. If I can get the clearance in school 173 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 6: moment him a hail for a draw, just. 174 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: The types of points. But they could score and winning 175 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: and crawl the footy guns. 176 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 7: I can tell you for start, when you're coming from behind. 177 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 7: A Zell coach told me that you're gonna do everything wrong. 178 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 7: You're gonna take your opportunities. Clearly we did that. I 179 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 7: think we've cried a hissue. 180 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 5: One am I gonna email here is going to. 181 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 6: Full fold pace sights that are going to tighter skulls 182 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 6: forteen My god, oh my god, I came wrong. Friday 183 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 6: could be the finished debate. All finishes stores up the 184 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 6: level sculls. Ah morbles, it's a throw. 185 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 4: Next way, hold him. We're not sick. We're not sick. 186 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: Got a fan. 187 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: That's a look, I think it's left o'clock a freaking. 188 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: Six six six suscusion? 189 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 8: Did they ever more? 190 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 2: I gotta sit that Mexican run off. 191 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: We must sit on the positions six six six and 192 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: as that go, we've never seen this in IFL footy before. 193 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 8: All says thank you very much, as he's got it 194 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 8: the sturber stump. What we were looking at time start 195 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 8: now Marshall Schools on. 196 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 4: Forty minutes ol? 197 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,239 Speaker 2: How did that happens? 198 00:09:58,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 9: In the extra. 199 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 4: Here's Sara came obey the man of the moment. One 200 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 4: kick left, one kick left in the guy. 201 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 8: He stepped on a tide. When your name pay. 202 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 6: Checks because the boys on the sites and said Childer 203 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 6: has counted a mirror. 204 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 8: Children tree under the room? 205 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: Are you working with this moment? 206 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: I needs to come? 207 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 7: That was really really pleasing. Yeah, it was really exciting. 208 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 7: But ay and die. It's four points trying to be 209 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 7: the history and get a bit of elation. You know 210 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 7: we will get together with you know, trying to build 211 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 7: out the mortar of the club that will go. 212 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: Down inside cuta if L folklore. That's the most extraordinary 213 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: game I've seen this year. Dwade fively got his finished 214 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 2: to beat all finishes that what are we seeing here? 215 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: And the truth is you could go to the footy 216 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: three times a weekend for the rest of your life 217 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: and you will never see you finish like that. 218 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 3: A jed dermot'sat's a high bar. That's the best finish 219 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: this year. You won't see a bit of package in that. 220 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: So we ever put that together? Tim Hodges and the team, 221 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: I've only been here five minutes. It's Fox so three 222 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: AFL three six. You've owned this space. And I don't 223 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: care if people say you're talking about your own show. 224 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 3: It's not my show, Jared show. That is as good 225 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: as four minutes of packaging up something so well done 226 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 3: everyone anyway. 227 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: I hard believe that. 228 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it was amazing how it built, because it 229 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: always just felt even when the momentum had changed, as 230 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: Ross said, everything has to go right. For two minutes 231 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: you couldn't figure out how Melbourne didn't score and it's 232 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: probably just a bridge too far. And when Magan and 233 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: Miller lines up, it's to tie the game. You know, well, 234 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: we're going to split the points and talk about that 235 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: market and kick. It's inconceivable that then he could be 236 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: at the center bounce and lining up for goal to 237 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: win it eight. 238 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: Seconds later, and I probably need to watch it again. 239 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: Amongst all that Clayton Oliva misses everything from twenty five 240 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: minutes out, Harrison Penny's on the goal line and. 241 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: He just has to go at that anyway. So then 242 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: you go, how does it all happen? 243 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: Well, the most extraordinary breakdown of communication. And I'm talking 244 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: to people today that everyone panics in their life, in 245 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: their job. The beauty for everyone else is that you 246 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: don't get a broadcast and then you don't get it 247 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: picked apart for the next week. They just happened to 248 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: panic on national television in front of everyone. 249 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 2: So what was the rules and how did it all unfold? 250 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: The AFLs played its role today with clarification for the 251 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: umpiring Department so that teams know what this looks like 252 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: in the future. The six six to six infringement that 253 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: makes it possible with eight seconds left on the clock. 254 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: So sine killed a conjure their plan, and the plan's 255 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: pretty basic. 256 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 4: I don't want to go. 257 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: I don't want to dance on everyone's parade. You one's 258 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: going this is this is a mastery. Look at this. 259 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: This a bit of that this is genius. Nice. If 260 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: I'm round Marshall, he's. 261 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: Going, look, I don't care if there's eight on you, 262 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: I'm kicking it to you, So get. 263 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 2: Forward, No kick it to you. 264 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: Now, there was a bit of yeah, they did it well, 265 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 3: they got the one side and all that sort of stuff. 266 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: That as for this being some sort of miracle setup, 267 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 3: it's not. I'm you seven best player in the game 268 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: in the minute. I'm kicking to you wherever you are. 269 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: That's it. 270 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: So clear out the space, open up space, and this 271 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: is so that's killing his credit. 272 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: They followed that a ready Miller gives them. 273 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: They opened up this incredible pocket of space, and Bowie 274 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: gets totally confused by that. Bidy is just bewildering where 275 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: he goes to the wing instead of the came and 276 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: eating and there actually end up being two targets in 277 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: the flat here for Marshall to kick. 278 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: Out Miller mangone. Miller is the shallow so. 279 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: This is the wide receiver would be under triple coverage, 280 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: but he's on his own and camdit, he's out the 281 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: back too there. 282 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 3: So I know I'm being facetious, but it is. It 283 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: was Everyone in the world knows that number seven is 284 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: getting the footy except eighteen Melbourne. 285 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: Blocks everyone in football. 286 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: Everyone in football knows that seven's getting it. So somehow 287 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: Jake Bowe and they're going to comp it everywhere, So 288 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: he turns his back on the play instead of being eyes. 289 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: Every eye should be Onnsiah, every eye. And then Jack's 290 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: on the wing for the first time in his life, who, 291 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: by the way, had tackled Jack Vonne his game up 292 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: until three quarter a time he tackled some Kilda into 293 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: submission and the poor bass all he's going to be 294 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: remembered for was this, And that's fair enough why he's 295 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: standing on a wing and not on the corner. 296 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: And then the actual rules, Yeah, so this can come 297 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: around this that the umpire's boss has set out tonight. 298 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: He says, you're not permitted to change personnel of the 299 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: starting position once the breach has been called. So there 300 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: was the questions could Gorne of left and just been 301 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: replaced by somebody else. 302 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: The answer to that is no. 303 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: It's the responsibility of the opposition ruckman to stand the 304 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: mark or leave the mark, but he can't be replaced 305 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: on the mark. So Gorn they could have left Marshall untended. 306 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: I think that would have been a high risk. 307 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: So if someone was to stand, the market had to 308 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 3: be Maxwell had to be gone. 309 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: That's the rule, or I had to get straight out. 310 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: They should have had a line of players. Basically it's 311 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: and a half back. Five of them are different depths 312 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: to be able to provide the coverage. 313 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: So that was the era that was made. What about 314 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: for Wangoneen Miller? 315 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: So there are moments in a young man's career where 316 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: you announce yourself and probably more on the hangar and 317 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: the goal to tie it up. 318 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: There's no supervilege. We tried in the broadcast of all 319 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: the radios. They threw every adjective you could that was 320 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: just elevating yourself into rear territory. 321 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: Jared, you kick the. 322 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: Ball down there, he's double teamed and he takes as 323 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: clean as a whistle pack mark. And as impressive as 324 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: that was, he just went back and not for a 325 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: second did you doubt that he's going to kick the goal. 326 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 3: He couldn't have split that middle any better than he did. 327 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: So now he's everyone's found him as a player, and 328 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 3: then he's just gone again into a strategy. 329 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: I was hoping the theater of the day would see 330 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: him resign his contract in some way and walk out 331 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: with it. 332 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: But instead he was up on ross Lion's shoulders last 333 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: night and could at the celebration. Yeah, so they had a. 334 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: Family night and that is nas on Ross's shoulders. No 335 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: looks like a man who's staying to me? 336 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: Is that that's Rossie? Underneath is magnif. It's all sekta folklore. 337 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: And ross could find him in the pub, Melbourne bodies 338 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: couldn't find him on the field. I'm not surprised he 339 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: got thrust up on his shoulders. So now it is 340 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: it's one of those days for Sint Kilda and we'll 341 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 3: get on the Melbourne in a minute. For sin Kilda 342 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: fans and Seculda supporters, it's it's rare because again, don't 343 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: be down it. 344 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: They were horrible for three quarters so it. 345 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: Is a catastrophe for Melbourne and you sort of can't 346 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: sidestep that from where they got to stated unacceptable and 347 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: conceded to panic. 348 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: That's where the coach went. 349 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: That does it shake the faith in Simon Goodwin, Well. 350 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 3: Depends where you sit. It's a fundamental breakdown in leadership, 351 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 3: of which he sits at the head of it. So yep, 352 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: the questions will be asked of him, and he didn't 353 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: back away from him, and nor should he. I'm looking 354 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: at the playing I'm looking at the playing group period, 355 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: and I mean, this is senior footballers. I don't need 356 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: to kick and they've been kicked enough. But they just 357 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: fundamentally panicked. And I want to go back before this. 358 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: The result is the result, and we've we're just narrowing 359 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: on two minutes, which is fair enough. 360 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: They came. 361 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 3: There's no question in the world that three quarters time 362 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 3: they checked out. We have done enough. Forty five points 363 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: is more than enough, and so the sin is there. 364 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: The complacency puts him in a position at the end 365 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: where they panic themselves into an embarrassment. 366 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 2: But it's it's a three quarter time. 367 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 3: That's where I'm going back to, and there's no question. 368 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: How did this happen? How did this happened? 369 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: Because they thought they'd won, so they they'd absolutely box 370 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: and cure as the years off in every aspect of 371 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: the game. They box their ears off, four of the 372 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: ball behind the footy and a clearance and they just 373 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 3: said that is enough. So there's the problem. So they 374 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: go back to the players and the coaches and everyone 375 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: else at three quarter time what was said and what 376 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 3: was done and then they stopped playing, and then it 377 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 3: is It is on Max, and it is on Jack, 378 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 3: and it is on every single one of them, and 379 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 3: they'll cop it. 380 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: And I'm not sacking the coach and all that sort 381 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: of stuff. That there is emotion out there. 382 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: I get it. 383 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: Everyone gets emotional when you see that unfold like that. 384 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: But it's you got one or two options. 385 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: Grant Thomas says this all the time. You can be 386 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 3: a victim, you can sit back for me, or you 387 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 3: do something about it. 388 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: And that's that's what they've got to do. They it 389 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: was ironically as good as three quarters as they played alongside. Yeah, 390 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: and it all gets washed away. 391 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: Melbourne was in another theater tonight at the AFL Appeals Board, 392 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: trying to free Stephen May from MAT's suspension handed down 393 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: by the tribunal last week. 394 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: David's it has sat through this case, David, welcome, Hello, 395 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: Jered and Gary. How's it come to pass? Well? 396 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 10: Stephen May's ban has been upheld. This was as quick 397 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 10: of an appeal board hearing as I can remember. They 398 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 10: deliberated for fifteen minutes before coming back and delivering the 399 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 10: verdict that they would reject the appeal. The d's argued 400 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 10: that to expect a reasonable football player to predict the 401 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 10: bounce of an oblong ball is unreasonable. They said that 402 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 10: certain things weren't put to Stephen May that should have been, 403 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 10: and they said that amounted to procedural unfairness. They said 404 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 10: that the tribunal didn't take into account of bio mechanist's 405 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 10: view as much as it should have, and they also 406 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 10: said we are bewildered as to what is expected of 407 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 10: a reasonable player. 408 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 6: So that was their argument. 409 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 10: They said this was such an unreasonable decision. No tribunal 410 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 10: acting reasonably could have come to that decision. And they 411 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 10: just said that the burden the onus they put on 412 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 10: Stephen May to predict the bounce of the ball was 413 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 10: completely unreasonable. The AFL said they're written submissions say at all, 414 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 10: but they ultimately contended the tribunal's decision wasn't unreasonable. They 415 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 10: said May's evidence was extensive, the hearing took three hours, 416 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 10: the reasons were comprehensive. 417 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: May had a fair hearing. 418 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 10: In their words, so Will Horton, Wayne Hemwood and Stephen 419 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 10: Jureka all deliberated for a very short period of time 420 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 10: before coming back and categorically dismissing this. They say that 421 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 10: they are satisfied that Stephen May was afforded procedural fairness 422 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 10: in the context of a disciplinary tribunal set up in 423 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 10: a sporting body. He was given more than adequate procedural fairness. 424 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 10: It is clear that it was open to the tribunal 425 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 10: to come to the verdict that it did. Our job 426 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 10: is to see if this decision was tainted. They said 427 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 10: not to rehear the dispute. There was no lack of 428 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 10: fairness and no unreasonableness in the decision that tribunal came to. 429 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 10: So he served the one match band already under concussion protocols, 430 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 10: and he'll missed the next two, all right. 431 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: So a high legal process that happens that appeal these days, 432 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: not a rehearing of the original case. But it is 433 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 1: vindication for Jeff Gleeson and his tribunal, and a lot 434 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: of us have been critical of that verdict in the 435 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: way that handed down, but that has been validated and endorsed, 436 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: and the band stands and now on to the players 437 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: to make their adjustments. 438 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: Kind of got push aside it has it has. 439 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: The biggest loser on a long list from the weekend 440 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: was North Melbourne. It's getting harder and harder to mount 441 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: the case that the Kangas are on the improve. 442 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: That is an old fashioned flogging every sense of the word. 443 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: Nathan Buckley that it was. I you never want to 444 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: be embarrassed. 445 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 9: Those losses really set you back mentally. It's tough to 446 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 9: pick your team up when you have that loss. Winning 447 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 9: becomes the habit and if you continue to lose, it 448 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 9: starts to become a party of DNA. 449 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 6: How was a training rule? 450 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 10: So if the system's too complicated, then you've got to 451 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 10: strip it back. 452 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: But this has been three years now of the system 453 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: that Alistair. 454 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: Clarks have want to be got ever with his team 455 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: and it's not getting better. 456 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: So clearly there's a breakdown somewhere and they've got some 457 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: serious soul searching on. 458 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 7: It's shooting the sails in the foot a lot of 459 00:21:59,600 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 7: the time. 460 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 10: I think there's been a bit of a trend as 461 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 10: of late some of our easy skill errors. 462 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 9: To turnovers that result in them getting goals out of 463 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 9: the back and they're just so demoralizing that kills you 464 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 9: as a team. 465 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 4: I'd love to. 466 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: Ask Alister Clarkson, what are you trying to achieve? 467 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 4: Show us what it should look like. 468 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: Overall, I can't see him proving, So they've got to 469 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: ask themselves is it the right system? And if it's not, 470 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: he's the message getting through to the playing group. What 471 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 2: do they value as a club? 472 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 9: Now? 473 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: Penelty his thoughts, his true thoughts. 474 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 4: Is he able to do what he once thought he 475 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: could do with this group? 476 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: Are there any doubts there. 477 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: Right now? 478 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 9: Those sides down the bottom need to be competitive to 479 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 9: then take that attitude into preseason to then improve hopefully 480 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 9: next season. That type of loss can damage that. 481 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: Clarkson's fifty sixth game in charge. 482 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: It's the third season. 483 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: The first was hopelessly compromised, as we have talked about 484 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: previous but that the trajectory you want to be able 485 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: to see the signs and Saturday Night was frankly about 486 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: as bad as it's been. 487 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, can't argue with any of that, all that commentary 488 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: it's there is hard to argon and Nelson Clarkson would 489 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 3: be asking himselves those questions. His great strength is his 490 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: capacity to work harder than anyone else. Over the journey's 491 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: been the hardest worker, has been the more innovative coach, 492 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 3: most innovative coach of the modern era. And I'm not 493 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: talking about the last three years. When he went through 494 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 3: his successful period at Hawthorne, they changed the way foot 495 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 3: he was played. And now he's into the next chapter 496 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: of his coaching life, which is probably his last chapter. 497 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, well, maybe he coaches beyond you. 498 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: I doubt it so. 499 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: And what we've got to assess, which is hard, is 500 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: to try and pass judgment on one of the all 501 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 3: time it's and it's happened before. It's you know, it's 502 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: small to house, it's page and it's these great, great, 503 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: great coaches who owned owned their errors and got premiership 504 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: success on the back of them, who then went to 505 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 3: you know, for different reasons, to different clubs and clubs 506 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 3: down the wards the bottom like this side, and their 507 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: capacity to impact there wasn't what it was understandably, and 508 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: that's where we find this modern day great is jury out. 509 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: We'd like to say, no, no, we can see it. 510 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: You know, we know the losses aren't as bad as 511 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 3: they have been, but the losses on the weekend, by 512 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: the way Gilong can do this to teams. 513 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: No sharing, no lark. 514 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 3: He doesn't help. I'm not making excuses. I get all 515 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 3: the questions and they are to be answered. But he's 516 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 3: a stubborn little man. Listen to little He's a stubborn 517 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 3: man and he'll dig in. And I think it was 518 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: King who asked you knows he still got the faith 519 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: in himself. Well, I would suggest he has, but he's 520 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 3: got to prove that and his club's got to approve. 521 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: So there's sort of two questions that they're still stuck on. 522 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: One is method. We are not seeing it. 523 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: I do think they suffer by comparison with Richmond on 524 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: that front. You can see what they are building and 525 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: how they want to play, and then they're going to 526 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: start to get second guests on their recruiting while careers 527 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: are blossoming elsewhere, players that they overlooked and what they 528 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: have gathered together. 529 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: This is the doom loop. 530 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: If you don't get out of it, it repeats on 531 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: you over and over. And they are in about the 532 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: third spin cycle of this, and they would have desperately 533 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: hoped that at the end of twenty twenty five it 534 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: would have been You can see what's about to happen. Now, 535 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: whether it takes another year or two or three, we're 536 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: not going to exit this year with that surety. 537 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: As you can see. What's about that, not the surety. 538 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 3: There's been glimpses, and whether or not that's enough to 539 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: sustain the faithful remains to be seen. 540 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: But he won't give up on it. I'm pretty sure 541 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: it's certain of that one incident that caught your eye. 542 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: So in the past few weeks you phrased the dropping 543 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: of knees and a kick which was excused as a trip, 544 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: and this is. 545 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: The pushing of a player in that pact. 546 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: So my check gets fined for what he does to 547 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: floss in here, but no suspension. 548 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm number one supporter a fan, No problem there. 549 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 3: That's dangerous, I mean that is dangerous. The fact that 550 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: Nick Boston gets back up. Now he's been fined, by 551 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: the way, twenty five hundred bucks. Ryan Mansel got fired, 552 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 3: got suspend the three games if we go back. So 553 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 3: this is just we've got to call out the behavior. 554 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: And we have to. 555 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: We're calling not worthy. 556 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 3: But the football is calling on footballers to change their behavior. 557 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: So bridy my check can't do that. 558 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 3: You just can't do it. It's too dangerous to push 559 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: players in the incoming traffic in that manner. And I 560 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 3: think he's lucky. I think he's lucky like Darcy Moore 561 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 3: was lucky. He's Darcy Moore got off Scott three. He 562 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: gets off of the twenty five hundred dollars fine. When 563 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: Ryan Mansell ironically against Richmond Foddy Club they played on 564 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: the weekend, this was a big story, Jared. Now he 565 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: gets knocked out here Mansell. So they're saying that he 566 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 3: pushes him and knowingly pushes him into oncoming traffic and 567 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: should have known that the traffic was coming. 568 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: So my check has been found guilty of the same offense. 569 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: It's just the impact is low rather than severe, and 570 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: that dictates the penalty. 571 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 3: Again, it's the not the three stuff, which is Greg'swan 572 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: will put this to him tomorrow. They will outlaw this 573 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 3: not to three nonsense because Mansell was probably a two 574 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 3: and my checks are. 575 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 1: One in my mind, yep, yep, And that dangerous action right, 576 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: that's a glimpse of some of the key agenda items 577 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: from Round twenty. 578 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: We couldn't be in better. 579 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: Hands on a coach in fronts Craig McCrae and Matthew Knicks. 580 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: So the Magpies sit atop the table. They have been 581 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: our competition leaders for months on end, and the Crows 582 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: they are massing their forces. Another landmark moment for them 583 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: coming in a domination of a showdown