WEBVTT - ROUND 18 REVIEW: "THE CLUB ISN'T CONVINCED": Dragons beat Tigers but has Dean Young done enough? 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.920 Well, welcome back everyone to another edition of Code NRL 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.680 Podcasts on a Monday, where we break down the big 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:08.680 stories from the weekend. That's going to include answering some 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.080 important questions that are popped up, like is the Bunker 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:14.800 ruining Rugby League? The Dragons at any hope of getting 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.599 off from the wooden spoon? Are the Tigers doomed to 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.680 forever miss the eight? And what's going on with Cody 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:23.480 Walker's temperament? And can you get it under control? Today? 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.760 I'm joined by Fatima Kadou Brent Reid. My name's Alex, 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:30.120 also known as NRL Soapbox. Let's get into it. Fatima, 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:32.160 you wrote an article a couple of weeks back which 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:34.839 I loved talking about some of the blunders and how 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:37.600 is that have happened in the Bunker? Firstly, how are you? 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:39.800 And then breakdown for us what's going on with the Bunker? 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.720 I am, well, do you love the article because you 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:43.400 hate the Bunker? 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:43.600 Well? 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.360 Yeah, totally, yeah, saying what I want to hear. 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:48.680 Yeah, Well, here's the thing, I actually don't hate the Bunker, 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.479 Like this is my theory on it, Like I understand 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:53.360 that it is like a store point. It is a 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.520 pitch point for coaches, players, fans. I get that, but 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.400 I just keep thinking, like, if we didn't have Bunker, 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.240 like Wayne Bennett and you want to blow it up, 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.440 can you imagine what would happen if we saw the 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:08.760 same mistakes that we see on the weekend. There'd be 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:12.120 an absolute riot much in every single game. So, and 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.680 here's the thing in the Bunker's defense. Yes, I did 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:16.840 write an article pointing out I think you know, we 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:17.959 even called it blunder around. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:19.040 It might have been last week. 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.279 They do more often than not get the right cause. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.080 Have they had a bit of dodgy ones in the 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:25.920 last couple of weeks? 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:26.200 Yes? 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.200 Absolutely. Last week in particular, we saw the Tom Jenkins 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:30.760 one of Tom Jenkins tries, it might have been his 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.800 second one, where there was just so much going on, 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.720 but for whatever reason, we only saw the Bunker focus 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.560 on the put down, which was fine, but it was 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.080 a double movement but wasn't an obstruction. So those kinds 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:47.160 of incidents are incredibly frustrating. But is it ruining the game? 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.640 I'm not getting rid of the Bunker. I'm saying that 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.720 it's ruining it in terms of its cause it's making 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:56.720 decisions terrible decisions in consequential moments ninety eight. That success 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:58.240 rate is great. Well congratulations. 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.480 Yeah, yeah, I hate the argument. Hate it. 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.920 I think it's a ridiculous argument. What major sport in 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.280 the world doesn't have technology. We've got a World Cup 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:09.320 going on right now. Yeah, there's VAR being used. Some 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.120 people are frustrated by it. But you look at the 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.480 Frans game yesterday. Was it the VAR ruled Penley clear? 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.680 Penley decided the game? You know, I think it's I 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:18.120 hate the. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.480 Argument, but let me lay issue is in the bunker. 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.440 The issue is in the technology. It's this is not 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:24.040 the issue. 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:25.799 Well, that's what I'm not saying, that's the issue either 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.560 read in the bunker. Yeah, well I'm not saying that's 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.720 the issue. I'm saying the officiating through the bunker, like 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.320 they're not using the technology. Probably, So the bunker is 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.600 a concept. Is the referee and the tech. Well, they're 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.440 making so many mistakes. You make that decision. 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.680 You look at that decision on Tom Jenkins, one decision 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:41.120 they got. 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.239 Wrong, whatever night it was where it's a clear double movement. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.160 They use the technology, right, it was just a bad decision. 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.640 Yeah, but you can't er Yeah, that's yeah. Sorry, you go, 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:50.640 that's a human error. 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.240 That's a human mistake, right, and you're not going to 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.080 eliminate them. That's why the bunker will never be one 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.440 hundred percent because it will never get everything right because 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:58.560 humans are involved. 0:02:58.760 --> 0:02:59.760 Humans aren't perfect. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.480 Humans make mistakes, right, But we're getting a lot more 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.240 right now than we ever got in the past. 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:09.400 And you know, I think it's saved referees in general. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.840 I would say, right, it's save referees from a lot 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.519 of heat and a lot of criticism because when referees 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.560 got decisions wrong in the past, the on field referee, right. 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:18.720 They a lot of flack over it. 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:19.120 Yeah. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.280 Now it's the bunk of the cops of flat Yeah. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.480 And I think the idea that we peel back the bunker, 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:28.080 you know, I would say the Samarius. Maybe, maybe you 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.040 can dilute the power a little bit, right, maybe. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.359 But I'm saying here's what I'm saying. Really, I'm saying. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.760 I'm not saying that we get rid of the technology. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.160 I'm saying we actually get the technology to work so 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:39.920 that fans aren't throwing their hands up in the air, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:41.880 going what the hell's going on with our game technology? 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.440 When something's written. I'm not saying the technology is not working. 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:50.000 I am also saying work. I meant in the interpretation 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.200 of that technology the senior match official. So what I'm 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.760 saying is just when something when I see something's ruining it, 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:58.440 it doesn't mean I'm saying remove it. I'm saying improve it. 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.040 So work out how those senior officials. Do you need 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:02.360 to have three in the box? Do you need to 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.520 do something to make sure blunders aren't happening? 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.720 This is the Jimmy Graham argument. You need three people. 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.400 I'm suggesting three gibbering fools to babies. 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:18.200 Forgive me ready for being discontent with incompetency. You know what, 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.200 Let's just let it slide the game. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.279 You've got to learn to live with it, right, Because 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.480 it's like this whole argument about consistency. 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.800 Everyone goes, oh, there's no consistency. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.440 You're never going to get it because look at us 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.280 arguing now about the bunker, right, we're not consistent on it. 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.400 Human beings have different opinions, they view things different ways, 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.240 so you're never going to get consistency. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:39.960 It's a bit like the bunker. You're never going to 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:40.640 get perfection. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.280 Right, What we need is for them the bunkers there 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:45.640 to eliminate the Howler the great. 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.559 It's not eliminating it, but reading. 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.760 That's the problem, right, that's the human being problem. That's 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.279 a that's a problem where the people in the bunker 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:54.159 have got to get it right. 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.839 And they're smart guys, like I think it was Adam 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:58.560 Jingo one wrong with the weekend. 0:04:58.240 --> 0:04:58.640 Wasn't it. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:02.120 Adam g has been referring if it was Adam job yaps. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.240 Forgive me if it wasn't. But the guys who were 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.080 in the bunker have been in there for a long time. 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:07.840 They've been around the game a long time. They've a 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:09.800 fish over of the game a long time, right, they 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.279 know the rules. Yeah, for some reason the heat of. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.800 The moment that they get the odd one wrong. 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.960 And you said it before, I think it's ninety eight 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.040 percent right, right, So why the vast majority they are 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:20.800 getting them right? 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.680 Sadly, they are occasion going to get it wrong. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.599 Okay, let's move on. Let's talk about the Dragons upset 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.840 against the West Tigers. There's two big storylines coming out 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.000 from here. But the first one is the Dragons have 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.279 once again secured two points in a game of footy, 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:39.000 So Dragons fans will be absolutely dancing for joy this week. 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.479 Here's a key question, though, and I've got some I've 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.000 been doing a bit of research on the Dragons, but 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.200 I want to throw this to you guys first for Tima, 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.640 can the Dragons avoid the spoon? Oh? 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.000 How many points behind are they? I should I should 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:50.400 know this. 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:52.719 I think two wins behind someone? 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.480 Two three wins here? What there's eight games? 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:55.600 Eight? 0:05:55.680 --> 0:06:00.680 Nine games left? Probably not no, but I know they've 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:04.159 only won two games since dem Young took over. But 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.839 I must admit they've been playing with a lot of effort, 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.400 a lot of spirit, especially the last couple of weeks. 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:14.279 And the bar is probably so low to begin with 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.560 for them anyway. But there has been some improvement. 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:18.480 Yes, they have been improving. 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:21.640 They have been improved, and if you're a Dragons fan, 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.080 that's like a little glimmer of hope to hold on to. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.760 Well, here's some encouraging news for Dragons fan. So I 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.920 did a bit of research the last five games. What's 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.960 really changed is their actual ability to score tries. So 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.000 for the previous eleven games they were averaging, which is abysmal. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:37.479 You're never going to win a game of rugby league. 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.440 With this two point two tries a game, you're never 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:41.719 going to win with that, even if you had the 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.120 most premium defense. Now they're getting up closer to four 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.599 tries again, so actually they're actually in the contest and 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.600 if you analyze their last five games, they've outscored their 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.159 opponents three times, so they're actually now looking like a 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.400 footy team that can contest and compete in the game. 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.960 When you're scoring two tries a game, you're no chance. 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.560 So Dean Young's done something. Reading your take, do you 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.080 think the Dragons can avoid the spoon? 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.120 No, I don't think they can. I think they're going 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.720 to win what three the Titans have won four games, 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.400 they won two. I think they will win probably three 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.680 more games at least to go past the Titans. And no, 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.200 I don't think they can. I don't think they can 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.280 avoid it. I agree with you, they'd be better, but 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.520 they couldn't have got much worse. If you and Marenzac 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.960 Day they were an abomination and they weren't going to 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.440 go backwards from that, you know, I think that that 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:28.920 coaching decision, it's really intriguing, right because they've taken forever 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.120 and doesn't look as though they're close to making a decision. 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.320 Deans won a couple of games, and you would have 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.400 thought he's helped his cause, but they're taking the time 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.200 of it, which makes me think they're still not convinced. 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:45.920 Is really is there anybody else that obviously Ben Hornby's yeah, yeah. 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.280 So is it a two horse race basically between Ben 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:49.560 Hornby and Dan Young? 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:50.840 Well, it feels that way. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.200 I mean I haven't followed it closer enough for team, 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.120 but it feels like it's a two horse race. And 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.800 you know, if Ben can win another game or two, 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.000 I imagine Dean sorry, can win another game or two, 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.160 would imagine it's his job. 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.520 But you know, look, I mean the Tigers. 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.200 Obviously they beat the Tigers, credit to them, but the 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.120 Tigers down on troops, so many players out there battling 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:12.679 at the moment. 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.200 So it was a good win. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.679 But I'm not surely going to face too many easier 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.560 games than that the next what they got left eight games? 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:20.400 Eight games? 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:24.679 Well, I suppose the source of comfort for Dragons fans 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.640 is that your team went from an abomination to just incompetent. 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:29.400 They're getting somewhere that's. 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:32.960 Better. 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:34.720 I mean, they are better. I mean they are. 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.319 They are having to go and some of those young 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.559 they've got those young forwards. Everyone's talking about the young 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.560 forwards and they're having a dip. No, I'll probably win 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.720 another game or two. I'm just not sure they'll win three. 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:45.280 That's the that's fair issue. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.400 You know, who hasn't been incompetent in the last couple 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:51.199 weeks of our homes No, No, but that's another thing 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.760 as well, you know. And he was forced to shifted 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:55.480 out to the win because I think Tyrol Slone went 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.160 down with a hamstring injury. And you know, after the 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.800 game he said, I actually enjoyed it. Scored two tries. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:02.720 I think the final ten minutes he might have had 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.240 a game high one hundred and seventy seven meters whatever. Young, 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.160 you know, he kicked goals. Yeah, So you know, whatever 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.439 Dean Young's done there, because he was clearly off it, 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.720 yeah right, and maybe you know, maybe he was carrying 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.000 a bit of a shoulder injury, I think, but you know, 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.280 there was obviously something wrong there. So Dean Young's managed 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.320 to turn whatever was going on with our homes around 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.599 and that's all I think positive signs for Ded and 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:25.760 his job applications. 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:27.920 If you view Dean Young over the past five games, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.120 he's done something. Whether it's enough, who knows, but he 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.080 at least done something with this team. Let's move to 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:36.240 the Tigers, though, who started the season was so much promise. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.160 I know, ready, you were really backing them and so 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.920 and obviously they've been hammered by injury. There's been big 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.240 news about player movements and all that kind of stuff. 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.760 Are the Tigers once again going to miss the finals? 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.520 Sadly it looks that way. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.080 He's put down the cool aide. 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:54.800 I wouldn't put it. 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:56.959 Look, I'm not willing to put a complete line through them. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.280 It's a pencil line. Look can rubout because all is 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:01.960 pretty good and they've got a pretty good drawer right 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.320 on the run in. They're just their injuries is just 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:06.400 piling up. 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:07.160 That's the problem. 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.720 I know they've got Dewey back back next game, but 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.040 Twiles back, but they're just losing Bloke's hand over fist 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.160 and that's the problem with the moment. Typically on their edges. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.160 I mean it was similar. Farming might be back in 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.160 the next week or two, but they've lost him quite 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.559 Piers Paul, you know those guys have been great from 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.000 the year. Durin Buller doesn't look at his best. That's 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:27.800 the worry. So benj you's got to find a way 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:29.920 to ignite them again. I don't think I'm not going 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:33.760 to officially put a line through them, right, it's just 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:35.680 a pencil. 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.640 Well, I'm putting a line for them. I think. I 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.400 know they're only one win out of the eight, but 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.800 they just are losing games they should win, beating the Dragons, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.360 that's got to happen, and they haven't done it. So 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:50.000 they've had the misfortune of injuries and then they're just 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:50.959 not getting the results. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:55.160 Yeah, yeah, and ready alluded to the run high, but 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.440 I was just having a look that final three weeks 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:01.320 his Rooster's Cowboys penrith. Yeah, I don't start backing, you know, 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.120 grabbing some wins in the next. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:03.640 Couple of weeks. 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.760 It might be you know, all over for them before 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.920 they even get to their to their run home. I 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.320 did have a look at this. They're conceding at stack 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.880 of points. I think only the Dragons and the Eels, 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.960 and the Eels have been abysmal defensively this year are 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.480 conceding more points than them. So that's been it Shan. 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:19.840 I get it. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.320 When you have injuries, it you know, ruins your defensive 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.040 combinations and systems and the rest of it. But they've 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.120 just had, you know, very little resilience in defense. They 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.960 have fade outs in the you know ladder parts of 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:36.120 each halves which are hurting them. So yeah, that's the 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:36.800 you know. 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.040 It's a really good point. Like so the Tigers, the 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.840 games I've watched when they played well, is that their defense. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.120 They've executed the game plan that Benji set and defended 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.480 very well. It's just not consistent enough, yes, And which 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.160 if you want to play top eight footy and finals footy, 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.480 you've got to be consistent and they're just not doing that. 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:54.600 And they're just not doing that. 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:56.560 Yeah, I think if you look at the ladder, I mean, 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.079 you said the one win out the eighth, but if 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.280 you actually take the buyers out, the two were out 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:00.600 of the eighth. 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.080 So that's a problem for him as well. 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.520 Right, They've got to somehow find a way to win 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.040 two more games and the Cowboys or Manly or Cronulla, 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.480 and at the moment that the way they're playing, that 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.080 would seem almost impossible. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.840 But I'm giving them a little sniff a little bit 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.360 of hope. I think it's going to be a man Benji. 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.680 We trust it's going to be a cruel irony of 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:21.640 once again the West Tigers finishing ninth. 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.160 I reckon it started so well. That's a frustrating thing. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.360 They've played so well early doors, but that just the 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:28.880 injuries that just decimated them. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:33.160 Decim Yeah, but the injuries have decimated them, but their 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.880 defense has also just not been there, not consistent enough. 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.240 Let's go back to another result from the weekend where 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.320 we thought it would be much more of a contest, 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:44.120 which is the rabbit O's and the Panthers. That rabbits. 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.520 We can blame bunkers or referees or anything like that, 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:51.280 but I want to talk about Cody Walker's temperament. That 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.559 brain snap that he had was a bigger brain snap 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.360 than the bunker if I'm being honest. Now, I think 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:57.679 it's got to this point where we need to ask 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:02.320 this question, is Cody Walker's temperament losing South's games? 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.480 But I don't think Cody Walker's temperament cost him that game. 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.680 And when he came back in the game, they're in it. 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.080 They're in the game at a half time it was 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.679 twelve to ten, wasn't it. So you know it was dumb, right, 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.800 No one's going to dispute that it was stupid. It 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.840 was a dumb thing to do. And Cody owned it 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:19.640 after the game, got to give Hi kudos for that 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.640 right in front of the press conference, put his hand 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.040 up so that I shouldn't have done it. 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:23.760 It was silly, and. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.079 Apologized for it. But I don't think that costs in 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:27.439 the game. I mean, there was twelve I think it 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.000 was twelve turn at a half time, wasn't it. 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:30.960 Yeah, But the game regular is the game of momentum, 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.160 and you're not going up against an insignificant side. You're 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.080 going up against the Panthers with it. They might have 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.559 a few names out, but they're still a very good team. Yeah. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.240 But I would say they had themndum and a half time. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.560 They come back into that game, they were gone, right 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.280 it was twelve mil or whatever, and they got back 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:43.920 to twelve ten. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:45.160 Yeah, but he burned to try. 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:47.800 I would say they actually had them a mentum go 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:48.400 in a half time. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.280 Yeah, but they could have had more. He burned a try. 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.440 We did, and so the. 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:57.400 Game you say that, but if that try gets scored 0:13:57.920 --> 0:13:59.840 maybe the half plays out differently. We don't know how 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:03.760 much try costs him, right, But you know Cody, Look, 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.240 I mean, Cody's had that in him for a long time. 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.560 Right, He's never quite gone that far to be that silly. 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.160 And Cody's a point in his career where he's probably, 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.480 like I said, I reckon, there's a sense of frustrating. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:16.960 He plays plays a little bit of a sense of 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.960 frustration at the moment because what is he thirty five? 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.720 He's Look, he's at the latter stage of his career. 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.680 It's probably a year left in him, and he can't 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:26.880 do what he used to be able to do. He's 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.160 still a damn good player. So Cody doesn't play South, 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.080 doesn't win a lot of games this year, like Cody 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:33.880 is a difference maker for him, him on the trail. 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:39.640 So you know, unfortunately with Cody, he's not going to 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.080 change now, right, That's that's who he is. And I 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.600 think we've accepted that for a long time. And this 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.840 is the one time I would argue, or the one 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.440 significant time it's just gone too far. He's always had 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.000 a little bit in him, but it's just gone too far, right, 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:57.840 And I would say Cody acknowledged that and accepted it. So, yeah, 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:01.960 he's obviously that it's a game, Britt, But Cody wins 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.600 more games for southsek loses by the length of was straight. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.120 Yeah, it's a credit to Cody to take responsibility for 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.600 a stupid mistake, but it isn't a mistake in isolation, 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:13.920 and I don't think he can I don't think he 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.440 can afford any longer to be making this mistakes. He 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.360 doesn't have that much time left in his career and 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.320 Souths needs to make the eight. He can't be blowing 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.920 like blowing his temper like that and having a tantrum. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.080 And we've accepted a part of his game because Souths 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:26.720 will winning, but if they're going to if they don't 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.360 make the eight, or if they start losing games as 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.640 a result of him being thrown off, I think it's 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.360 absolutely worth worthy of conversation. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.440 Yeah, well, Cody, Cody acknowledge that, code acknowledge that after 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:37.920 the game that was the wrong thing to do. I 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.560 think Cody Cody knows that as much as as much 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:41.440 as anyone. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:41.560 Right, But. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.040 Again, I'll say it, Cody wins more games for Southsea loses, Yeah, 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.760 by a mile, I mean Cody doesn't often cost some 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.560 footy games. Cody often wins the footy games. 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.640 Yeah, he does often within footy games. But if they're 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.200 losing footy games, it's also I'll tell you what, you 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.040 can guarantee Cody Walkers having a entrum. And so I 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.480 don't know why teams don't just send like that. Every 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.720 team should have signed a Reed Marti role who just 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:11.200 pisses off Cody walker Oh, guarantee they'd lose way more games. 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.200 Maybe on let's go to let's talk about Knights versus 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:20.200 Dolph Dolphins. And really the reason why this Newcastle win 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.000 was so important is in the context of the season, 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.240 we had. What were the Dolphins on was it seventh 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.600 straight or eight straight wins? Something ridiculous? Right, they were 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.760 on a hot streak. Yeah, and now that's happened through 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.440 the origin period. So both teams had origin players out. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.960 But you would argue, in some ways Newcastle not having 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.000 Kaylen Ponger is much more consequential than the outs that 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.640 the Dolphins had. It was a tight contest. But what 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:44.280 I really want to talk about is two things. Is 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.520