1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Hey Chicks, quick heads up. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: This episode discusses health, fitness, body, and other topics that 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: may be potentially triggering for some listeners. This episode does 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: not contain medical advice, and all topics discussed are general. Okay, 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: let's get into the episode. 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 3: This podcast is recorded on gadigal Land, Always was, always 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: will be Aboriginal Land. Hay Chicks, I'm sal and I'm 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: Out And this. 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Is two broad chicks to show that shares life lessons 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: and tips to help make you rich in life. And 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 2: we are very very excited because we are joined by 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: Zoe Bryant, an incredited sports and eating disorder dietitian whose 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: mission is to empower people to prioritize their health, fitness, 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: and happiness over how they look. 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: Welcome Zoie, thank you so much for having me. It's 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 4: so nice to be here. 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: Yeah from bris Vegas. 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 4: I live on the Sunshine Coach actually Brisbane. 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: The difference of these recently, it only took me twenty 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: nine years. 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, we do feel like this is a 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: very fitting topic to start the year because health and 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: fitness and goals around some of those topics are on 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people's minds at this time. 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: Of the year, So we're very excited to have you on. 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you caught the end of our 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: last episode, but how like this year we're like not 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: really leaning into news resolutions, Yeah, and how we're kind 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: of a bit like have they taking us too far 30 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: away from what matters? 31 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to talk to you about this. 32 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 4: Everyone has a different opinion. 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: I think get a professional perspective of the matter. Health 34 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: and fitness and diet resolutions, which we'll get into, can 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: be a very very tricky thing. 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: To navigate and also has a lot of emotion. 37 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 4: Tied to it. So definitely, yeah, I. 38 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Think it'll be really good to get into this. 39 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: But before we do, we like to start with our 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: life lesson of the week, So would you like to kick. 41 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 4: As I've been thinking about this because I love listening 42 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 4: to people's life lessons. I think mineus just to shoot 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: your shot, and I think you guys were talking about 44 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 4: it in one of the episodes at the back end 45 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: of last year as well. But everything that I've kind 46 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: of like got with my business and everything is just 47 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 4: because I've been like I'm just gonna do it. I'm 48 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 4: just gonna ask see what happens. Like if you you 49 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: don't ask, you don't get, and if you don't have 50 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 4: it now the only difference is that you still. 51 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: Won't have it, like close. 52 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing, that's what Yeah, so yeah, shoot. 53 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, what's yours? My life lesson of the year 54 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: of the year. Okay, we'll check back to this literally 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: and it's like the most stupid thing ever, so you'll 56 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: be like, really, this. 57 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: Is what you took away my favorite. 58 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: Life lessons of the dumb one. 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. No. 60 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: My life lesson of the week is inspired by did 61 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 2: you say? Miley so rus on a red carpet recently 62 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: and she was rocking like a bit of a Hannah 63 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: Montana esque blonde. 64 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: I'm not because of she has been teasing a fucking 65 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: twenty year reunion of Hannah Montana for however long, and 66 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: I'm not talking to her until she does it. 67 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 68 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: Well, twenty twenty six is officially twenty years since the 69 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: beginning of Montana. 70 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: What do we do? 71 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: We what are the plans? 72 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: Send it in the group chat? 73 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: I'm readyep yeah, So surely this is the year that 74 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: we're gonna be getting like the Hannah and Miley reunion 75 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: concert show. 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: I don't care where it is, what it is. We 77 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: have to go. 78 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah done, but I'll sell a kidney. 79 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: I will sell a fucking kidney. 80 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: We need to be a VIP band. 81 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, literally exactly. I know that she doesn't 82 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: like really do tours anymore. She hasn't been to Australia 83 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: since I think twenty. 84 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: Thirteen or twenty fourteen. Yeah, but like Miley, you've got 85 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: to do it for the twenty years that would set 86 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: her up. I'm sure she's already fucking rich as if 87 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: she doesn't ever need to work against the rest of 88 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: her life. But like she wouldn't bang oh doing like 89 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 3: an error's tour. 90 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: But it's like a hannahon Hannah Talk come and is 91 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: the outfits don't don't even get a start getting rolled up. 92 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: I know, don't roll up the baby for bed, don't 93 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: roll up the dogs, okay, but my life lesson is 94 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: things that are turning twenty In twenty twenty six, Out, 95 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: Get Out, Get Out. 96 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: Okay. 97 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: So I started with Hannah Montana High School musical. The 98 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: first one yep, yeah, the first high school musical came 99 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: out in two thousand and six. 100 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: It has been twenty years also the Devil Wears Prita. 101 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: Which makes sense while we're getting the sequel this year, 102 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's debut album. 103 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty years ago the Nintendo We Oh, that's helpful. 104 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: That one's helpful that that one only came out to 105 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: I was like, not that young when they. 106 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: Also speaking of toxic diet culture. 107 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, very for sure. 108 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, right the Hills. 109 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: If anybody's watched that reality TV show Sexy Back by 110 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: Justin Timberlake, this one's mainly just for me, no one 111 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: else will care. 112 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: But the Black Parade by my Chemical Romance. 113 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: That one is just for the Apple MacBook. And this 114 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: is a bit of a sad one to end. Oh, 115 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: but it'll be twenty years since Steve Erwin's death. No, 116 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: I know, I like that, but it feels it didn't happen. Honestly, 117 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: some wounds never truly heal. But I do honestly think 118 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: that it's really beautiful that I feel like we've had 119 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: quite a renaissance with the Iwin family and that twenty 120 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 2: years on, like his legacy is still and message incredible 121 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: through his family. 122 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeap, but yeah crazy Yeah two thousand and six. Wow, 123 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: how the nineteen ninety six babies feeling this year. 124 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: I'll speak for a lot of nineteen ninety six friends. Eight, 125 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: I've got time. 126 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 3: Oh you bitch, this is this is me done this year. 127 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm kind of ready to go. 128 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, yeah, you've been saying you're thirty for the 129 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: last three years. 130 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a nineteenninety six. 131 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 3: Baby, I'm ready. 132 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: Do you know what? 133 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: Put the twenties in the coffin and have the funeral? Yeah, 134 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: I think I'm good. I'm like good, I've heard great things, 135 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: but I've just heard. 136 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: That your thirties are like your twenties, but with more 137 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: money better. 138 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what you want. 139 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: One hundred percent, and you've like weeded out like the 140 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: toxic relationships hopefully and hopefully you've got the gig that 141 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: you like and yep, you know you're not living in 142 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: a sharehouse with like a guy who shaves his. 143 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,119 Speaker 1: Pubes on a towel. 144 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: No true strawberry happen to a friend of mine. Me. 145 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, let's rock and roll. 146 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, bring it on. 147 00:06:59,440 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: Okay. 148 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: My lesson of the week, Yeah, hit me. My life 149 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: lesson of the week is in twenty twenty six. 150 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: Start buying men's clothes. I have a Show on Tell 151 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: shirt that I'm wearing right now. I love it. So 152 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: I got this shirt from a men's wear brand. It's 153 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: ninety five percent silk and five percent hemp, so I'm 154 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: going to go with a silk shirt for one hundred 155 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: and eighty dollars, which, for context, a silk shirt from 156 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: Dish ranges from two hundred and thirty to two hundred 157 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: and fifty. So I'm saving nearly one hundred dollars just 158 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: by buying it from a men's wear brand from Alfie's Mission. 159 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: It's a small brand, it's a local brand and one 160 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty dollars. And the other reason I found 161 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: it is because my boyfriend was like, look at this shirt. 162 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: It's really nice. I think I'm going to. 163 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: Get it, and then I bought it. 164 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: Ok, how's that, Dylan? 165 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: That's about good? 166 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: No, he was like, well, what slice did you get? 167 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: I was like media, I was like that won't hit me, 168 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: and I was like it's not for you, So it's like, 169 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: what's the well, good shit. The whole life lesson for 170 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: me is we've had this conversation before, but how the 171 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: markup on women's product versus men's products is just diabolical. 172 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: If you look at literally a. 173 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: Plain white tea from a men's wear brand versus a 174 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: women's wear brand, you very often see price discrepancies, with 175 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: the men's wear being. 176 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: A lot cheaper. 177 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: So if you're looking for basics that are just a 178 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: wardrobe basic, shop it from men's wear brands and under 179 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: the Consumer Protection website from the Parliament of Australia, it 180 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 3: says research shows that pink tax is costing women on 181 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 3: average one thousand, three hundred dollars more than men on. 182 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Products per annum. 183 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: And this is products that are substantially similar goods and 184 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: all services. Fuck I crazy, no, cue the comments, don't 185 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 3: fucking care mate. 186 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: But also, like Jason, if you want to buy a 187 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: white T shirt from Glassons, you can, yeah go get 188 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: the tank air top if you play the mark up, 189 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: be my guess, Hey, my guess. 190 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: And like you can put in so many examples of 191 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: raises and toothbrushes, like a fucking pink toothbrush is more 192 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: just because it's pink. I love it. 193 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 4: Solid life lessons across the board. 194 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: Shall we get into the episo, Let's do it. 195 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: I hate so Zoe. The work that you do is 196 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: incredible but you have mentioned that your own relationship with 197 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: food and exercise has evolved over time. 198 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 3: So can you talk. 199 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: Us through your experience and your qualifications and how you 200 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: got into this industry in light of work. 201 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great question having them together because they're 202 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 4: the same. So I think, like even more recently, something 203 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 4: that I've come to terms with is that I don't 204 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 4: think I would have even been a dietician if it 205 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: wasn't for the fact that I had a needing disorder. 206 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: Myself just becomes like your fixation. You think about nutrition 207 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 4: as like you special interests, but it's really just because 208 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: you're so fixated on food. So that's what led me 209 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 4: to study nutrition in the first place, and that was 210 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: like a bachelor degree, and then went on to do 211 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 4: a master's in dietet eggs. 212 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 3: And that's where I'm always so impressed on someone you 213 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: should be because. 214 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 4: It's hard would never go. 215 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: Back, I could get like hard eyes. 216 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, I always throw it out there because it's. 217 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: You should you should get like. 218 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 4: I have a master's degree. Yeah, literally, And during that 219 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 4: was when it became a lot more like nutrition focused 220 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 4: and like dietet eggs, which if people don't know the difference. 221 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: Like dietitians are medically trained, so we can understand how 222 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: to work with acutely or chronically ill people as opposed 223 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: to say a nutritionist or like a health coach or 224 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: something like that. So through that, I just learned more 225 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 4: and more about how I was affecting my body, how 226 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 4: little I was eating and like overexercising, And that's when 227 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: I sort of started to work on my own relationship 228 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 4: with food. And then that sort of full circle made 229 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 4: me want to specialize in eating disorders, which is not 230 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 4: what I went you need to do. I wanted to 231 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 4: kind of like I thought I'd end up working weight loss, 232 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: which is a total polar opposite. And then like that 233 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: personal experience is what drives that passion. 234 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, yeah, that's incredible. 235 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: But like IL said at the top, like so much 236 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: of this and a lot of people's relationship with food 237 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: and exercise and diet is emotion based. So as well 238 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: the fact that you have had that lived experience, I'm 239 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 2: sure you can approach so many of the things that 240 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 2: you do day to day with so much empathy as 241 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: well as like the wealth of knowledge that you have 242 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: through your degrees and through your work. 243 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 4: Definitely, whenever we do extra study or training or anything 244 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: in eating disorders in particular, it's a mental health condition. 245 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: It's not necessarily like a food thing. Really. Yeah, it's 246 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 4: just theory. But whenever I'm working one and one with people, 247 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: I can kind of put things into words that they 248 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 4: can't or like it just it gives a total different 249 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: level of care. Yeah, to be like I get it, 250 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: like I understand on paper different we say, like in 251 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 4: the eating disort of land. Every person's different in every 252 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 4: eating disort of difference. Yeah, every time. It's like a 253 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: totally different think. 254 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. 255 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: And if anyone is feeling like they're overwhelmed or feeling. 256 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: Like they can relate to that. 257 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: We will also share some resources below in the show notes, 258 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: so we've had you on the show. I kind of 259 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: mentioned this at the top because health is one of 260 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: the most popular and when I say popular, I mean 261 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: frequent news resolutions, with almost one in three Australians aiming 262 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: to improve their fitness or eat healthier in twenty twenty six. 263 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: And while these girls girls, while these goals can be motivational, 264 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: the way we set them can shape how supported and 265 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: empowered we feel along the journey. So my question is, 266 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: what are three thing you would not do to get 267 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: healthier in twenty twenty six? 268 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 4: Yes, as if you, but oh, pick three. They're things 269 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: that people are doing when they come to me. And 270 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 4: then first things that will work on. But the first 271 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 4: is to try not to focus on avoiding things when 272 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 4: it comes to food. So don't make resolutions or goals 273 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: around never having sugar, never eating takeaway, because it's that 274 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: restrictive mindset that's one percent going to lead to guilt, anxiety, 275 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 4: stress around food. You're limiting your experience as well. So 276 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 4: that's one big one I not to focus on what 277 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 4: to avoid. The second is to not jump on whatever 278 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 4: diet's going to be trending. I've been watching videos of 279 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 4: people like predicting trends, but I can't predict it anymore. 280 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: People are out here doing some crazy shit, so nothing 281 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: shocks me. Yeah, they don't work. We know diets don't work. Again, 282 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 4: it's that restrictive thing. But you need to find something 283 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 4: that's going to work long term, and that's going to 284 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 4: work for you, like it just fits into your life. 285 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 4: If you're doing something that's hard, it's never gonna stick. 286 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 4: And so what's the point of doing it for three months. 287 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 4: It's not a long time. It's not gonna make any 288 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 4: change in your health. So definitely don't jump on the diatrens. 289 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 4: And the last and definitely most important for me is 290 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 4: to not make any resolutions or goals around weight loss 291 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 4: because automatically like that doesn't necessarily mean health We can 292 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: lose weight in really unhealthy ways. If your focus is 293 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 4: to get healthier, weight loss doesn't automatically equate to that. 294 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 4: We want to actually focus on healthful behaviors. You're just crazy. 295 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: As we read a start and it was that twenty 296 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: seven percent of Australians have a news resolution to lose weight. 297 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that doesn't surprise me, and it would be there 298 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: every year for you know that you've done that five 299 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: years in a row and have you lost weight? 300 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: No? 301 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 4: Maybe change it up a little bit, yes, yeah. 302 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: So on the flip side of that, what are three 303 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: things you would do to get healthier in twenty twenty six. 304 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 4: Yes, so kind of like I guess a bit the opposite. 305 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: I suppose to avoiding things, focus on what you can 306 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 4: be doing or can be having. We're in the Dietitian land, 307 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: like to talk about nutrition by addition, you know, working 308 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: one on one with people, we're never really going you 309 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: shouldn't have this, shouldn't have that, We actually go okay, 310 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: well missing a bit of color, you know, So making 311 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: goals around Okay, I don't eat a lot of color. 312 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 4: I don't have enough water, or maybe I should try 313 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: to get two liters of water in a day. Maybe 314 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: I should have one color and three of my meals 315 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 4: a day. Or if you are eating a lot of takeout, 316 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: cook from home three nights a week, like what you 317 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 4: should be doing instead of avoiding is always a good one. 318 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: I like that. 319 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: Nutrition by addition is that it Yeah. 320 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: It's like the golden standard of dietitians. That's what we 321 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: try to do. 322 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: While I like, wow, that isn't good shit zoeing. 323 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: So people are like that though, and it makes so 324 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 4: much difference because you are more likely to stick to 325 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: it if it's something you're doing as opposed to something 326 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 4: you have to take away. So that's number one. Number 327 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 4: two is to find movement that you actually like. Don't 328 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 4: jump on trends just because they're trending. If you hate running, 329 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 4: don't run, just don't do it like it's okay. You're 330 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 4: not missing out on anything. If you don't like going 331 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: to a gym or structured training and you want to 332 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 4: dance or walk or pilates or like, find something you like. 333 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: The point is movement always, and if you're going to 334 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 4: stick to it, then that's the movement you should be doing. Like, 335 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 4: you get so much more out of movement then weight loss. 336 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: Try to see it as like mental health making friends. 337 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 4: All of my friends have been from that, So, yeah, 338 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: movement's good. And the third is to eat enough. It's 339 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: the most important thing you can do for your health. 340 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: It's highly likely going to be the thing that's going 341 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 4: to work on your blooting. And if you're missing your period, 342 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: and if you have hair loss or you struggle to 343 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 4: grow hair or you know, and you're not eating enough, 344 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: that would be the first thing I would address. Underway. 345 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 4: It's just calories enough, calories. 346 00:16:59,320 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: That's it. 347 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: For those who feel like they've tried a lot of 348 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 3: different things, They've done a polarates class, they've gone to 349 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: the gym, they've tried running, and they're just like, I 350 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: just don't like any of it. 351 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: What's your advice for that? 352 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, then that does happen, Yeah, it does happen. It's 353 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 4: where we then need to set like achievable goals with 354 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 4: exercise because it is, honestly, it is really important for 355 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 4: your health. We know that we have mountains and mountains 356 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 4: of research to support that. It gives you a little 357 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 4: bit more wrigal room with your diet as well, which 358 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 4: is always nice. But can you commit to two strength 359 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 4: training days a week? 360 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 361 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: Can you garden? Can you do tools? Go for a 362 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 4: school and especially with older adults as well. 363 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 3: But looking at it not like a but it's like yeah, 364 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 3: movement movements all the time? 365 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's cool. 366 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: Ye. Now that's such a good perspective as well, because 367 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: it could be like could you walk to a bus 368 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: station that it's like us stop, that's a little bit 369 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: further away than the way you usually do. Yeah, take 370 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: the stairs instead of the lift. Circling back to's goals, 371 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: what's the difference between setting a resolution from care versus 372 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: setting one and from criticism? 373 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 4: I love this question because it does make a really 374 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 4: big difference. What we know about behavior change and have 375 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: a lot of research to support, is that shame is 376 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 4: not a good motivator for change. People use it all 377 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 4: the time, and that's a lot of people like even 378 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 4: fitness influences and like maybe less good ones. Let's just say, uh, 379 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 4: use that as a you know, how they market it, 380 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: that's how they draw people in. It's very critical, it's 381 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 4: very like back and wide and yeah, you need to change. 382 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: It's very like shame driven, but we actually know that 383 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: that doesn't lead to change. What does lead to change 384 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 4: is a sense of achievement or feeling good with something, 385 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 4: or feeling good about yourself. So setting resolutions that are 386 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 4: sort of achievable is definitely good and focused on like 387 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 4: actually taking care of your rather than going I hate 388 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 4: that about myself. I want to change it entirely. I 389 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: have to, or else I'm not deserving or I'm not 390 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 4: worthy until I do that, as opposed to being like 391 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 4: I maybe would like to have more friends that would 392 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 4: serve me really well and then making things around that 393 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 4: as opposed to I need to lose weight. Yeah. So yeah, 394 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: I think like remembering that if you really do want 395 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 4: that thing, having it driven by care and self care 396 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 4: is always going to actually lead to you accomplishing it, 397 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 4: as opposed to having it driven from a shameful point. 398 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Can you give us an example of a resolution 399 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: that's from care and a resolution that's from criticism, and 400 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: show us the difference. 401 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, around sort of like the same thing always, Like 402 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: the weight loss ones are coming from criticism. I always 403 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 4: ask people what do you actually want? It's not weight loss? 404 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 4: What do you want that you think loss is going 405 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 4: to give you? That's an important question to ask yourself always. 406 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: If it's feeling more confident, you can do that without 407 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 4: way loss. So perhaps re shaping that goal into something 408 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 4: that's about confidence. Maybe it's like next time you go 409 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 4: into the store and you see something that looks cute, Yeah, 410 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 4: I can it with that. I can't wear that's late 411 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: lose weight, try it wear it. So like pushing yourself 412 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 4: a little bit out of your comfort zone. So I 413 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 4: get like asking yourself what it is you actually want 414 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 4: from that as opposed to what you think it's going 415 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: to give you, because it won't give you that, I promise. Yeah, 416 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 4: that's a good point. 417 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: How does diet culture sneak into goal setting language without 418 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: us even noticing? 419 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sneaky. Yeah, it's just sneaky girl, diet culture. 420 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 4: It's always when it's more restrictive or very like black 421 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: and white do or don't. There's no balance in there. 422 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 4: So when it's like never have this or avoid this, 423 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 4: or have to lose x amount of weight or those 424 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 4: sorts of things, as opposed to like I would like 425 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 4: to do this more, I would like to reduce this 426 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 4: behavior or that sort of stuff. So I think it's 427 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 4: it's always like when it's really black and white. 428 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what do you think of those? 429 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: Well? I say these on TikTok all the time, but 430 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: it will be like start on January. 431 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: Things, Oh my god, I hate this and look and 432 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: look like this by March twenty ten weeks, we're starting 433 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 3: twenty ninth of January, let's fucking go. Yeah. 434 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: And it's usually like those sorts of challenges and content 435 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: pieces that. 436 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: Like seventy five hard Yeah, what do you think about? 437 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 3: Seventy five hards? 438 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 4: My favorite thing. I think it depends who's doing it. 439 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 4: That's the problem with this kind of content is the 440 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 4: argument that people always make. People that make this kind 441 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: of stuff is always like, well, I'm not making it 442 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 4: for everybody, but you don't get to decide who sees 443 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 4: your posts. And the problem is there are really vulnerable 444 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 4: people on there, right, people that are better My life 445 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: is seventy five hard. I was there, and then if 446 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 4: I saw that, I would be like, I'm not doing 447 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 4: it hard enough, and you just go further down the 448 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: rabbit hole. So it's like, it's not that it's harmful 449 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: for everybody, but there are a lot of people that 450 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 4: it's harmful for. And you don't get to decide who 451 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 4: sees your content. You can't be so black and white 452 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 4: because people are going to take that and be like, 453 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 4: well that's me. 454 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 455 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: Maybe I shouldn't be succeeding off failure. 456 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I shouldn't be doing that. Maybe I should 457 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 4: be doing that. Maybe I need to take the supplement, 458 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: Maybe I need to like and you just like and 459 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 4: it's spiral every second. 460 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 461 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 462 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: So it's more about embracing rituals rather than challenges. 463 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. 464 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 4: The daily habits always outweigh the random stuff. 465 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: Well, how can people set goals and daily habits that 466 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: focus on strength and energy and ritual rather than perfection. 467 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the biggest thing is that it needs 468 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 4: to fit into your life. So something that I always 469 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 4: talk about is can you do it at your worst? 470 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 4: When you set a goal? 471 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: Literally it's yeah, Sally's brain just melted out. 472 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 4: Of it, and you go, yeah, I can do that. 473 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: I can do it when I'm ovulating, when I'm high, 474 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 4: eight hours of sleep, I'm hydrated, and no one's pissed 475 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 4: me off. Yeah I can do it. 476 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: Then how. 477 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 4: Do you feel like that? 478 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's not gonna happen, right, But if you 479 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 5: can do it when you're you know, deep in period 480 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 5: bloat and you know premensal syndrome symptoms, and when you're 481 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 5: tired and whatever else, it is overstimulated and like it's 482 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 5: going to stick. 483 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: So trying to think about like can you do it 484 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 4: at your worst? You can't ask yourself, Yeah, I can 485 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: do this at my best. I can do it, because 486 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 4: you just that's gonna be gone by the end of 487 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 4: the week. It's not coming back. 488 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: Like, how do you be more gentle with yourself? Right 489 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: when you are building those habits and you are day 490 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 3: one of your period and yeah, your fucking boss just 491 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 3: sent you an email that you're like I fucking hate you, 492 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 3: and like you are at your worst, you are and 493 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: you and you don't want to show up. How can 494 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: you be gentle with yourself in those moments and also 495 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: not completely throw on the tower because. 496 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: That's something that I do. 497 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: Right, If I fall out of a habit, it's going 498 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 3: back for like another six months. 499 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 4: Yep. You honestly like it sounds really boring and like annoying, 500 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 4: but you just like you have to just get back 501 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 4: to it. 502 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 503 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 4: That's why that all or nothing mindset is so unhelpful, 504 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: because you do, like things come up and you're never 505 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: going to do something every day for the rest of 506 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 4: your life. It's just not feasible at all, and so 507 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 4: you are going to fall off and you just need 508 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: to get back on. Yeah, you just need Yeah, of 509 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 4: course I'm not going to do that today. 510 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. 511 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: Stroke shit, what would I tell my smorrow? 512 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, how to say if my friend came to me 513 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 4: and was like, I don't want to go to the 514 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 4: gym today. I feel discussing, I have no energy, Like 515 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: I'm not I can't do that. Go to morabib. It's 516 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 4: all good next still be there. It doesn't mean now 517 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 4: you've failed forever, Like honestly, just like get out of 518 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 4: your head. Stop being a silly goose. 519 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: Like that is share logic, Yeah, logic logical. 520 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 4: I always like tell the people that I work with 521 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 4: just like, look at it. Logically, it doesn't make sense 522 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 4: to just quit because you've missed one day. 523 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: I feel like it all right to my word of you. 524 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: Logic. 525 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 3: I think I really like that. 526 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: And we do know that tracking your goals and writing 527 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: down your goals can increase your chances of reaching them 528 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: by thirty three percent. But as we did mention before, 529 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: some hell tracking tools or apps can be quite triggering 530 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: or problematic. So what can the chickis use instead to 531 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: track progress and actually stick to their goals in a 532 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: way that's and not harmful. 533 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of unhelpful ones. It can be 534 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: really harmful anything that's sort of focused on calories a thing. 535 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 4: Just avoid that entirely. It's just a rabbit hole you're 536 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 4: gonna slip down and never come out of. Good old 537 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 4: fashioned pen and paper. Write it down, write your goals down, 538 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 4: check in with them. Writing down's fun. Make it fun. 539 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 4: Get colored pens, get a cute little journal, book stickers, 540 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 4: I don't know, like, make a colorful girl. You we're 541 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 4: just girls at the end of the day. Make it excited, 542 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: camber like. 543 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, habit track is also really great. 544 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: So like you can then look at, say you have 545 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 4: like a column that's the habit. It might be like 546 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: drink two liters of water, train three days a week, 547 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 4: I don't know, something achievable, and then you can color 548 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 4: in whether you did it or not that week. Then 549 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 4: when you look at that, you can look at it 550 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 4: over months as opposed to individual days because debt. Some 551 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 4: days are going to be in the red. But that's 552 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 4: okay because then when you look at it, you go, okay, 553 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: that's like seventy percent green, nailing it. That's absolutely nailing it. 554 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 4: So think like that sort of stuff that you can 555 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: zoom out look at. The big picture is always better. 556 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, fun like trackers and pens and papers, and 557 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 4: not the apps. Some apps might be good. There's more 558 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 4: things coming out, but not the one that we'll probably 559 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 4: all thinking of. Yeah, that one's mean. It's really mean 560 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 4: to me. 561 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, make it fun. 562 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 4: Make it fun. 563 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: What are some of the health and nutrition trends that 564 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 3: people need to leave in twenty twenty five? 565 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 4: A lot of fun. I think the main ones would 566 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 4: probably be all the supplements, To be honest, they just 567 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 4: keep coming and coming and they all do nothing. To 568 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 4: be really honest, if you want to supplement with something, 569 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: you need to go and see somebody. Not to be biased, 570 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 4: but a dietitian is the best placed just sort of 571 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 4: tell you what supplements. You can get a blood test 572 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 4: and we can understand them and then tell you what 573 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 4: you might need to supplement based on your goals and 574 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 4: your current nutrition status, so what you're deficient in or 575 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: not deficient in. 576 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's where supplements actually help. 577 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 4: When you have a deficiency, they are helpful. Like iron deficient, girl, 578 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 4: Iron supplements great, not iron deficient, not going to do anything, 579 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: just make it const randomly. 580 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, supplement the. 581 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 4: Powder, Like all of these supplements are just taking your 582 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: money really, like you're better off trying to focus on 583 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 4: diet truly. Like, I know that's a bit harder than 584 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 4: taking a supplement, but it's cheaper. Actually that's where they work, right, Yeah, 585 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 4: that's exactly right. 586 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 3: It's like the supplements are a billion dollar industry because 587 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: it's that quick fix of you don't do the next 588 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 3: one in you know, nutritionally and healthy that's going to 589 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: fuel your body. 590 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: Just take this little pill and we do it for you. 591 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 592 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 2: Literally, And I also think we do have a bit 593 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: of a misconception that it is harder than what it 594 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: probably actually is to include some of those things in 595 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: our diet or yeah, go to a nutritionists or dietian 596 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: or your GP and get your blood work done and 597 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: see what you're you're missing instead of somebody on TikTok 598 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 2: who's never met you and never seen. 599 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 4: And is making a commission off of that supplement. 600 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: So we always finish these episodes by asking our guess 601 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: what their biggest life lesson has been so far, But 602 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: we wanted to ask you a question inspired by one 603 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: of your Instagram posts last year. What's a reframed mentality 604 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: that has completely altered your brain chemistry? 605 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: There's so many, but I think like the one that 606 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 4: comes to me personally is instead of thinking about exercising 607 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: so I can eat, it's eating so I can exercise. 608 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: That just like flipped a switch to me. Made me 609 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: think about movement differently, and made me think about food differently, 610 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: made me think about my body differently. It just felt 611 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 4: like I was taking care of myself. But it also 612 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: felt like I was kind of sleek and like, yeah, 613 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 4: I'm eating this and I'm feeling better, Like it's mind blowing, 614 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 4: performing better at the gym, like actually have energy, brain 615 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 4: working period regular, not bloated like I was like, whoa, yeah, 616 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: just got mechued together. 617 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 3: That Actually it was actually just did something for Yeah, 618 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: I just reframed mine live. 619 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: Wow, we need like a zoom in. 620 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 4: For about two. 621 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 5: Seconds and we were like I hear by myself. 622 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: It's that scene of like the Grinch when he like 623 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 3: turns on like the sleigh and he goes, wow, that 624 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 3: was me. That's where I just went yep, oh my gosh. 625 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Zoe. You are literally incredible. 626 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: I would love to know. 627 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 3: Is there anything that you would put on a to 628 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: buy list or not to buy list for twenty twenty 629 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: six for the chicks that want to prioritize their health. 630 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 4: Oh, might be controversial. It's like fitness trackers. I just 631 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 4: in practice, I don't think that data is actually helpful. 632 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: It kind of makes you disconnect a little bit from 633 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: your body. 634 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: So like your temperes track your steps and. 635 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 4: Sleep yeah yeah, steps, calories and exercise. Oh, there's heaps 636 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 4: of different HIV or all these different measurements that were 637 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: all like you're just overcomplicating it, like how do you 638 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 4: feel when you wake up? You're a good not good? 639 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 4: Like checking back in with yourself and to buy a 640 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 4: consult with the professional if you've got problems. Honestly, like 641 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 4: that is where your money is best place. Yeah, go 642 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 4: see someone who can actually ask you an hour's worth 643 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 4: of questions and know what you need as opposed to 644 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 4: scrolling and looking at things online that are just very 645 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 4: broad or not you know, relevant to you at all. 646 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 4: Like work with an individual, whether that be like a 647 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 4: physiodiety shirt like Allied Health. We're great, we can. Really 648 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 4: that's where you get that really significant change. Like all 649 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 4: of this stuff that we've talked about today is very general. 650 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 4: And if you're sort of you know, feeling ready to change, 651 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 4: and you can do it on your own, but some people, 652 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 4: if you feel stuck and you can't do it and 653 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 4: you've tried and tried and your mindset's just not right. 654 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 4: Like what we do is behavior change. That's our job. 655 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: It's not just education. It's like were helping you make 656 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 4: the change day to day so you can do them 657 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: and you feel confident and like we can reassure you 658 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: and valid aid and yeah, celebrate you and all that stuff. 659 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: Do people need a GP referral to see a dietician. 660 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 4: You don't have to have one It just depends on 661 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 4: whether you want funding. 662 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 663 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you've got private health, you don't need one. 664 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 4: If you just want to pay the just pay, get 665 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 4: no rebates, you don't. 666 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: You can get rebates through Medicare. 667 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 4: Can get rebates through Medicare if you have like a 668 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 4: chronic condition. Yeah, so something like type two diabetes, gut stuff, 669 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 4: pcos that those sorts of things can come under that 670 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 4: plan depends on the GP sometimes, and then there's an 671 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 4: eating disort of Care plan specific which does actually entitle 672 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 4: you to twenty sessions in a year compared to five. 673 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 4: So if you do think you'd fit into that box, 674 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 4: do do that because you get better care and then 675 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 4: you get rebates. It doesn't cover the whole session, but 676 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 4: you get rebates from Medicare like when you see a GP. 677 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's incredible. 678 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. And for anyone who. 679 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: Is listening to today's episode and is struggling with their 680 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: relationship with food, exercise, or any of the topics that 681 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: we discussed today, where else can people go for resources 682 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: to support? 683 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 4: Definitely Butterfly Foundation is great. They have a podcast. So 684 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 4: when you guys we've listened to all your episodes, go 685 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 4: down there for the fillers. I never know what to 686 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 4: do when everyone out of your episodes, and. 687 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: They're good. 688 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 4: But taking over. They have like an Instagram and they 689 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 4: do like a lot of research and surveys and stuff, 690 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 4: so it's really interesting. They do like a bodykind survey 691 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 4: all the time, which is like with youth and their 692 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 4: body image, and it's always just very eye opening meets 693 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 4: you feel less alone. And then they have like a 694 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: Finder professional thing, so you can search up if you're 695 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 4: looking for support. Same with the Australian New Zealand Academy 696 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: for Eating Disorders. They actually are the ones that run 697 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: the credential that I have, so you can actually look 698 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 4: for people that have credentialed eating disorder clinicians so GPS, psychologists, 699 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 4: dietitians and then Instagram. Instagram can be really great. I 700 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 4: know it can be awful, but it can be so good. 701 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 4: You just create an algorithm that supports whatever you want. 702 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: So if you're wanting a better relationship with food, like, 703 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 4: there's so many excellent accounts that you can follow, and 704 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 4: if you need specific ones you can hit me up. 705 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 4: I'm happy to send them new way that. 706 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 3: I follow short list. 707 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have one I can send it absolutely, Yeah, 708 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 4: because it's something I recommend to people all the time 709 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 4: because you know, we're never gonna not be on this thing, right, 710 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 4: It's not realistic, but we can use it better. Yeah. 711 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 4: Fully addicted to it. Thank you so sorry. 712 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 3: That's been incredibly helpful. You're incredibly smart and talented. Master's degree. 713 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to get sexy little baby tea with like 714 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: red text on it. 715 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 4: I have my mask like paras Hilton Vice. Yes, like that. 716 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 3: Would make so much money. I'm so sorry, March. I 717 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 3: don't have my master's, but I'm gonna make it. You do, Ah, 718 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 3: I have an honors Yeah. Same if I said. 719 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: Same, same people with masters we gets upset. 720 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on the pod. It 721 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: was incredible. Where can the chicks learn more about you 722 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 2: and what you do? 723 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 4: So most of the Instagram fueled by Zoe. That's where 724 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 4: I am hanging out all the time. Lots of like 725 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 4: recipe content and also just all the stuff we sort 726 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 4: of talk about today and just life stuff too. Just 727 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 4: being real amazing. 728 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 3: Thanks Zoe and thanks to you chicks for having us 729 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: in your ear holes. We absolutely love to be here. 730 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: We love it. 731 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: See you next. Tuesday, she keeps magic. 732 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 4: Bye