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Speaker 1: Hi friends, thank you for tuning into the daily podcast

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Speaker 1: and in soul called healthy issh Of course I am

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Speaker 1: Felicity Harley and joining us in the hot seat today

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Speaker 1: is our fabulous digital editor, Holly Berkeleman, and we are

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Speaker 1: talking about the three hottest topics in the health and

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Speaker 1: wellness world this week.

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Speaker 2: Good day, Holly. How are you No, I'm well, How

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Speaker 2: are you well? I'm back.

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Speaker 1: I have had a stint hospital, but I'm back.

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Speaker 2: Rough so rough.

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Speaker 1: Tom slid as well. It was actually quincy, which is

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Speaker 1: the worst form. But you know, it's amazing when you're

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Speaker 1: actually in the hospital and you just value health so

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Speaker 1: much more than ever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're like, wow, I missed all of the

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Speaker 3: days where I could swallow without crying.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, And you know what I just I mean,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't eat for you know, a couple of days,

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Speaker 1: and I just dreamed for the drinks that I could drink,

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Speaker 1: like coffee, and I just I craved all these like

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Speaker 1: dit cokes and that I don't really drink anymore.

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Speaker 2: But it was very bizarre.

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Speaker 3: You never realize how lucky you are until suddenly you

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Speaker 3: can't swallow for the life of you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Health is good.

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Speaker 1: That exact cliche. Well, yeah, thank you, thank you. Nice

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Speaker 1: to be back. How are you healthy.

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Speaker 3: I'm well, it's my birthday today. Actually, I know, thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just thought i'd tell you guys all about have

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Speaker 3: a bit of a main moment.

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Speaker 2: Go for it. Oh, happy birthday.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm like, if I'm working, then I get

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Speaker 3: to talk about a bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we have to celebrate you exactly.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's also celebrate what's been happening on bodyansoult

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Speaker 1: dot com dot a you this week, hit us with

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Speaker 1: the most intriguing story of the week.

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Speaker 3: The most intriguing story is one by contributor Ebony Lee,

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Speaker 3: and the headline is five things you should never use

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Speaker 3: as loop. Oh no, I know, oh no, indeed, fliss.

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Speaker 3: So the reason I found this interesting and intriguing is

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Speaker 3: because there are some things on the list that I'm

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Speaker 3: so sure that people are still using. So while it's

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Speaker 3: like it's an informative but quite an engaging read, it's

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Speaker 3: also slightly traumatizing and maybe a good reminder.

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Speaker 2: So okay for all, Okay, hit us with some of them.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so before I tell you the five things, I'm

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Speaker 3: actually just gonna say it's quickly. It's we all have

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Speaker 3: microbiota in the vagina and it's always keeping its own

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Speaker 3: balance down there. That's from gynecologists, is available toura, and

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Speaker 3: if you get insert anything external it can cause an imbalance,

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Speaker 3: as anyone who's ever had thrush will know. So the

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Speaker 3: most shocking one on the list is saliva, which why

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Speaker 3: everyone is probably guilty of, which is why we have

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Speaker 3: to bring this up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, why is this the case?

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Speaker 3: So it's not a good agent as a lubricant because

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Speaker 3: it wears off super quickly and also doesn't bring the

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Speaker 3: kind of like easy slidey sensations that are normal lub would,

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Speaker 3: so you can get friction, microteres and all sorts of things.

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Speaker 3: So while it might be pretty the most convenient thing

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Speaker 3: to reach for, it is certainly not the best.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where to respond to that. I

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Speaker 1: did love that comment. The easiest thing to reach for anyway,

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Speaker 1: carry on.

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Speaker 3: Don't use it. Next up, there are a couple here

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Speaker 3: that have like similar sort of reasoning. Moisturizers and lotions

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Speaker 3: and soaps they upset the vaginal pH and also soaps

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Speaker 3: not what we want going on down there. I do

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Speaker 3: think using moisturizers and lotions is probably more of an

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Speaker 3: that I just said that, but that's I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's a really an Australian thing.

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Speaker 3: Massage oil is another one, because it can upset the

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Speaker 3: if you're using regular latex condoms they will erode through,

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Speaker 3: massage oils, because it's quite it's oil based, but also

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a great little reminder.

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Speaker 1: Thankfully, due to the sexual Wellness Revolution, we've got so

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Speaker 1: many more loubs going around, especially ones that are designed

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Speaker 2: Out there rather than just the one that you used

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Speaker 2: to be able to get. It will worse ll calls.

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Speaker 3: I agree. And there's also been a bit of a

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Speaker 3: like skin terrification of loubes as well, things like lovers Loube,

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Speaker 3: care like ingredients in it which are meant to improve

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Speaker 1: Thanks for reminding us of the importance of lube.

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Speaker 3: I do think it's important.

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Speaker 2: I liked it.

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Speaker 1: Now I want to have you had this some Well

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Speaker 1: it's a hashtag, this term called rejection therapy.

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard of it, but I'm it sounds awful.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it's had more than fifty five million posts

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Speaker 1: on TikTok and I can't stop watching them. It's literally

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Speaker 1: your worst nightmare come true. Basically, it's a hashtag that

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Speaker 1: features cringe worthy videos where people put themselves in situations

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Speaker 2: Or sight eyed or whatever.

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Speaker 1: They hope to reduce the feelings of social anxiety and sensitivity.

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Speaker 1: So an example a few examples that I saw on

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Speaker 1: So they're just orc moments.

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Speaker 3: That's my nightmare fuel.

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Speaker 1: Although there was one where a girl applied to Harvard

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Speaker 2: There are some good ones.

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Speaker 1: It's just basically people getting turned down in pretty painful ways.

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Speaker 1: I mean the takeaway for these people who are doing

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Speaker 1: getting rejected makes you stronger. It takes the sting out

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Speaker 1: of things next time. So it's not actually an official

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Speaker 2: Would you do it?

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Speaker 3: I would never. I would never. My fear of rejection

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Speaker 3: is so high I just I couldn't. But I do

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Speaker 3: like the rationale behind it. I think it's great to

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Speaker 3: face your fears and realize that when the worst happens,

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Speaker 3: that sometimes it's not as bad as you think it'll be. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 3: I like you filming one of those videos, and I

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Speaker 3: won't be putting myself in those situations. Thanks well.

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Speaker 1: As you say, they're pretty low rest situations. So if

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Speaker 1: you do want to step out of your comfort zone,

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Speaker 1: take risks. And I also spotted a video on TikTok

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Speaker 1: of Harry Gar's side. He did this one hundred days Challenged,

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Speaker 3: Thing for sure. He's great with that sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: The uncomfortable challenges is that what he calls them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he does something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good for him. I'm glad you're doing it

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Speaker 1: Just quickly before we go, give us a quick rundown

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Speaker 1: of the most clicked story of the week.

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Speaker 3: Most clicked story was adding this one thing to your

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Speaker 3: diet could help you live longer. It's funny. We were

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Speaker 3: talking just before we started about how much people are

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Speaker 3: talking about longevity.

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Speaker 2: At the moment obsessed, everyone.

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Speaker 3: Obsessed, and everyone in our emails is obsessed with longevity too.

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Speaker 3: So it's good to see that this one has resonated

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Speaker 3: with people online. So have you got any guesses of

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Speaker 3: what you think this one thing could be? Please?

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Speaker 1: Okay, it must be if I'm thinking of like the

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Speaker 1: blue zones, it's got to be about a blue zone somewhere,

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Speaker 1: so somewhere that where people live most amount of people

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Speaker 2: Close, yeah, okay, give us more.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll just tell you it's actually small fish like

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Speaker 3: in the blue zones. It's like Scandinavia is a blue zone, right.

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Speaker 1: No, well, Ikiara in the Mediterranean. Oh sorry, that's in Japan.

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Speaker 3: so actually small fish that includes things like mackerel, whitebait,

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Speaker 3: and other causes compared to women who rarely consume them.

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Speaker 3: So this is your sign to add some anchovies to

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Speaker 3: your goal lunch this weekend, or stick some sardines in

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Speaker 2: What about someone your birthday cake?

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Speaker 3: I'll say no again, once again me rejecting advice on

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Speaker 3: this podcast. Yeah no, I think I'll stick to cake today.

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Speaker 3: Maybe some of anchovies at dinner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it anyway, Halley, you thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us this week on Healthy.

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Speaker 3: Thank you bye.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you want to know more about that longevity

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Speaker 1: study or anything else we discussed, I will leave links

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