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Speaker 1: Doctor Cam, your big stud, Welcome back to the probably

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Speaker 1: less of a stud today than yesterday morning, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: but we'll dive into that.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Cam. Welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 3: Kate be Harps. And there's no test to say I'm

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Speaker 3: less of a stud right now. It could come in time.

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Speaker 1: Well that that is true, Well we might as well

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Speaker 1: just open the batting with that.

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Speaker 2: We were.

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Speaker 1: This was not You didn't jump on and say I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about this. You were just telling me

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Speaker 1: and I said are you brave enough? And you went, oh,

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Speaker 1: if we have to. But so we're recording this on

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Speaker 1: Tuesday the twenty second and yesterday the twenty first.

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Speaker 2: You had a little bit of work.

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Speaker 1: Done downstairs in the underbelly of you. You had a sectomy.

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Speaker 1: Let's just spit it out, Harps.

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling like?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 2: It's so? It's what is at one o'clock? Now? What

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Speaker 2: time did you get that done?

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Speaker 4: I got it done one thirty yesterday. It's the most

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Speaker 4: surreal experience because you book.

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Speaker 3: A half hour session.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, surely this is some sort of

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Speaker 4: like the doctor gets to know me type situation because

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Speaker 4: I booked a half hour session and you walk in

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Speaker 4: there and they give you a little video and he says, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we'll do this this, and this is like oh okay,

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Speaker 4: oh it's all happening in a half hour appointment. So

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Speaker 4: you get in, you have five minutes of shaking hands

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Speaker 4: with the man, and then it's It's just what I

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Speaker 4: was so fascinated by was he's done thousands of these

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Speaker 4: because he's a vasectomy specialist. What is the order that

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Speaker 4: he will do this in that he's obviously learnt over time.

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Speaker 4: That creates the greatest amount of comfort, greatest amount efficiency,

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Speaker 4: all of that sort of stuff. I just love looking

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Speaker 4: at all of that as a process. But anyway, so

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Speaker 4: we talked about that later. So you're in, it's he

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Speaker 4: explained it to you. You jump down and then he

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Speaker 4: just does the things. It's like a one millimeter less

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Speaker 4: than a one millimeter incision and the whole thing's done

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Speaker 4: about fifteen minutes, so.

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Speaker 2: It's like the incision is like the other end of

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Speaker 4: Less I would say, almost, Yeah, I guess I guess that,

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Speaker 4: Like I don't know how he does it, but there

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Speaker 4: is the Chinese bit of local anesthetic.

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Speaker 3: I just loved his language with this as well, he goes.

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Speaker 4: Just a bit of anesthetic, like that you're going to

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Speaker 4: instead of you're going to feel a prick.

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Speaker 3: It's just a bit of anesthetic. I really well, I

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Speaker 1: You're going to feel a bit of a prick, and

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Speaker 1: so is he ish form haunt intended.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I'm like you in that.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm fascinated with The whole thing is thirty minutes.

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Speaker 1: So he's got to meet you, talk to you, try

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Speaker 1: to some you know, I'm sure you're pretty okay with it,

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Speaker 1: but some guys would be borderline hysterical.

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Speaker 2: I would think, probably me included. So you've got to

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Speaker 1: Interpersonal stuff and the social stuff and the be the

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Speaker 1: you as much as you can, watch the video, do

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Speaker 1: an operation, and then be out thirty twenty nine and

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Speaker 3: That's a lot.

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Speaker 4: It's so fascinating as well, because this is the most

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Speaker 4: personal I've ever been with a man ever.

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Speaker 3: You know, like I've never never granted the access that

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Speaker 4: You walk out at the end of it, and it's like,

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Speaker 3: But he's doing tent of them that day. I guess

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Speaker 3: I was just thinking about what, like, he's got a fine,

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Speaker 4: Connection, because there was really no connection. But for me,

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Speaker 3: Anyway, that was fascinating.

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Speaker 4: But even just yeah, just jump up on you on

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Speaker 3: It's just the language of it all.

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Speaker 4: It's it's so fascinating anyway. And then he's just he's

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Speaker 3: Like just with a big, a big home spray.

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Speaker 4: Wow, So you drenched in antiseptic by the time that

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Speaker 3: And then and.

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Speaker 4: Then I look, there's just this background tension in your

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Speaker 4: And so I just start said, mate, I was just thinking,

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Speaker 4: as he's going starting the process, how did you get

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Speaker 4: into this? Like he just just fell into us, and

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Speaker 3: Like this, you know what I mean, so fascinating.

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Speaker 4: Like just a heterosexual guy just doing for sectomies all

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Speaker 3: Me blows my mind. He goes, yeah, I just had

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Speaker 4: And so apparently you to be thousands of people doing viseectomes,

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Speaker 1: I want the guy that does all of them. I

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Speaker 1: want the busiest guy. I want the most skilled, the

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Speaker 1: who's doing me to be a little bit uptight while

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Speaker 4: He's been doing them for fifteen years. I was like,

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling real good at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Normally, did you feel did you feel compelled? Sorry, did

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Speaker 1: Like would you have felt if you just lay there

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Speaker 4: No? No, he was very comfortable, So that definitely made

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Speaker 3: You've always got the choice to talk or not.

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Speaker 4: I'm probably just I was just so curious. I'm just

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Speaker 4: And I found halfway through that conversation I relaxed. So

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Speaker 4: the talking for me probably helped. Yeah, yeah, rather than

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Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing when you're around somebody who has a

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Speaker 1: there is definitely a level of you know, like, I

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's the and it's probably I.

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Speaker 4: Have the same type of experience now and I'm explaining

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Speaker 4: back to the first time you presented it, when all

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Speaker 1: make the information as user friendly but also accurate, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's not because people are dumb that they can't get it,

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Speaker 1: of course, it's just a different language. Like you know,

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Speaker 1: akademia is just a different language.

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Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, you know the idea of when you

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Speaker 4: get into research, you realize how long it's going to

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Speaker 4: take to understand the entire body of literature, because you know,

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Speaker 4: the PhD I did was a Mega three in exercise

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Speaker 4: and seer reactive protein.

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Speaker 3: So any other outcome you need a brand new study.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's yeah, so yes, and then the specificity

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Speaker 4: going away from randomized control trials. The new evolution will

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Speaker 4: only be personalized algorithms. That's where it's going to be,

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Speaker 4: no more RCTs in time.

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Speaker 2: That's well.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: The other thing too is I don't want to get

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Speaker 1: people go to me, I've done my research. Like I

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Speaker 1: used to say that, I go I've done my research,

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Speaker 2: I've watched four fucking videos on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: You know where you think, Oh, obviously I did some

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Speaker 4: And it just so happens that I did this, And

441
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 4: I'm actually pretty happy that.

442
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 3: I came first.

443
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 4: And I was like, mate, if I had.

444
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 3: I'm virtually not even there now, I'd be gloating a little.

445
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 4: Bit for sure, that I've been blown away by this

446
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 4: dude and his physical intelligence, like the way that he

447
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,959
Speaker 4: understands his body moves, his body demonstrates movement. Ah, it's

448
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 4: it's profound, and he's done just a really good job

449
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 4: at setting up the program.

450
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: It's designed and the class is full of forty to

451
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 3: fifty year olds.

452
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 4: It is designed for those bodies where every scap retraction

453
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 4: is overemphasized, every activation is really it becomes the difficulty

454
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 4: in the movement is to really use those stabilizers correctly.

455
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 4: And that it's just been because normally I just try

456
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 4: and flog myself by how many push ups can I do?

457
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 4: How many pools can I do? It's been so good

458
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 4: for intelligent movement. It's exactly what my body's needed. And

459
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 4: it's like it's just changed in the last six or

460
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 4: seven weeks.

461
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: It's been brilliant, but also one that's amazing well done

462
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 1: and great to see that or great to hear that

463
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: you love it and that you're getting results. But also,

464
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 1: apart from the actual programming and the movement that you're doing,

465
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: how great is it to be an environment with another

466
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: human that you really like, Like the energy is different.

467
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: You could be doing the exact same thing. Shit environment.

468
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's dark and dank, and it's not I

469
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, you just like I fucking hate

470
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: going to that gym. It's like there's a cafe the

471
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: cafe go to every morning. I walk past literally eight

472
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: or nine cafes to get to this cafe because I

473
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: just love the energy in that cafe, you know, I

474
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: like being in that place.

475
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: There's something energetic that works for me.

476
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't surprise me about the jiu jitsu thing, though,

477
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,959
Speaker 1: because I've got a bunch of friends who do jiu

478
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: jitsu and I'm mentor a young guy who's has his

479
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 1: own jiu jitsu academy. Is a second dan black belt,

480
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: which there are not many takes typically ten years if

481
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: you train consistently to get a black belt in jiu jitsu.

482
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: It's considered the hardest belt to get in any martial

483
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: art as far as I know.

484
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 2: It might be some weird.

485
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 1: Like mystical martial art somewhere, but in terms of all

486
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: the general martial arts, and he's the same. He's just

487
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: like this big, goofy gent giant. He's a school teacher,

488
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: he's married, he's got two kids, and he could kill

489
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: everybody in the gym. But it just he is like

490
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: Humphrey be Bear. He's like six', four gentle, giant you,

491
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: know and but very like a lot of those dudes.

492
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: Are it's very much about respect and honor and self

493
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: awareness and self control and. Humility and when they start

494
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: from a white belt and they just they just grind

495
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: and they spend years on the. Mat there's not many

496
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: that the fat heads don't get.

497
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: Through they kind of get.

498
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: Culled if you've got a, big fat, ego you're going

499
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: to get strangled by, someone and you're going to learn

500
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: your lessons.

501
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 4: And strangled by people that are much smaller and seemingly much,

502
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 4: weaker but they just know.

503
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: Exactly where to do things and how to do.

504
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: It.

505
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah it's, Yes.

506
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 4: Yeah it's always been a wants me to investigate that

507
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 4: part of my, life But i'm just too much of

508
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 4: a computer.

509
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: Soldier it just hasn't warranted a physical prowess.

510
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: Yet tell me About so you've lost six centimeters around

511
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 1: your waist and you said that off the back of

512
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: this kind of moment that you had on this retreat

513
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: where if you missed, it everybody have listened to our last,

514
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: chat but like a big emotional release and you had

515
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: this moment and this kind of you correct me IF

516
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: i fuck it, up but kind of awakening or this.

517
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: Moment what's the between that, moment that emotional, release or

518
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 1: that moment in time and the six. Centimeters what's the

519
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: physiology that's leading.

520
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 3: That is it?

521
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: Cortisol is it you're end the crime system in? General

522
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: is it something? Else what's the why is one causing

523
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: or correlating with the? Other?

524
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 4: Yep so what was IF i had to put some

525
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 4: physiology into. It by the way that my brain is set,

526
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 4: up there was like a constant fear of failure going

527
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: on in my, brain and so When i'd project, Forward

528
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 4: i'd be really, motivated but Then i'd also fear.

529
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: That it's going to.

530
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 4: Fail and so there's this constant state of heightened neural.

531
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: Activity and for, me that activates the sympathetic nervous system

532
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 4: and the sympathetic nervous, system then it will.

533
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 3: Do a couple of. Things, chronically it will release a

534
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: bit of.

535
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 4: Cortisol but what it does to the tissue is that

536
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 4: it will prioritize storing fat around your, belly and it

537
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 4: will break down muscle tissue to, fuel like to provide

538
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 4: more fuel to liberate more fuel into the, body and

539
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 4: it will also break down more fat tissue and have

540
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 4: more fat circulating around your blood as.

541
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 3: Well but if you're then not moving.

542
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 4: Very, well WHICH i wasn't BECAUSE i just couldn't get

543
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: my brain into a space WHERE i could do it,

544
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 4: consistently that then relates to high cholesterol, levels higher truglys,

545
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 4: strides WHICH i. Had high cholesterol levels weren't, crazy but

546
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: they are definitely. Higher And i've always been pretty, healthy

547
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: and my diet was on, point AND i did probably

548
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 4: two months of perfect diet and my body just did

549
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 4: not shift at. ALL i was sitting seven to eight

550
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 4: kilos heavy THAN i ever. Had and, yeah and so

551
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 4: As i've come out of, that there's now less neural

552
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 4: activity that's being over, activated which Means i'm going into better.

553
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: Recovery i'm not projecting with, anxiety.

554
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: So there's less of that, breakdown and that's then obviously

555
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 4: allowing the fat tissue to be. Used and THEN i

556
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 4: also got my head into a space Where i'm now

557
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 4: moving a lot. Better that's combining with whatever is being

558
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 4: Released i'm. Using so And i'm putting a priority on

559
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 4: my muscles Because i'm doing the type of strength training that.

560
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: Allowed to do.

561
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 4: That so the focus of my body has gone From

562
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 4: i've just got to mentally get through this and keep

563
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: dumping fuel on the fire and keep burning that, muscle

564
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 4: whereas now, it's, hey we need that, muscle and there's

565
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: actually not a bigger fire.

566
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: Anymore so it's there's a conservation.

567
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 4: Of, muscle and then there's a use of the fat tissue,

568
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: instead and then you're not having the cortisole release as,

569
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 4: well so it's able to target the stuff that's going.

570
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 3: On and then Since i've checked my just checked my

571
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: bloods last, week it's like my.

572
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: Thyroil even THOUGH i didn't have a problem functionally, FUNCTIONALLY

573
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 4: i had a problem with my. Thyroid actually it's gone

574
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: back to exactly where it needs to. BE i cholesterol

575
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: levels going back to. Normal there's just been a significant physiological.

576
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 4: Change and a skeptic could just say you started exercising,

577
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: more so that's what's made it.

578
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: Happen but there has.

579
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 4: Been just my, motivation my, willingness my mental, energy just

580
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 4: the optimism THAT i, have the space That i'm.

581
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: Holding it's just, very, very very.

582
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 4: Different and that changed BEFORE i got really regular with

583
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: the exercise as, Well so it's a combination of. Things but,

584
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 4: yeah that's that's HOW i would explain what's going.

585
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: On love.

586
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: It you spoke in there, somewhere maybe towards the start about.

587
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: Fear like fear can be, useful obviously serves a, purpose

588
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: it can also be destructive and debilitating and. Crippling and

589
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: you know this IS i don't know if this is

590
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: in your, wheelhouse doesn't.

591
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: Matter we're just having a.

592
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: Chat tell me about, Fear tell me about your thinking

593
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: around that when like for, Yourself Like i'm scared of,

594
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: them you, know WHEN i talk to, blokes or not just,

595
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: blokes but people in a room in. General BUT i

596
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: like it WHEN i talk to blokes can go, well

597
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: of Course i'm scared of shit BECAUSE i feel like

598
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: it gives them permission to.

599
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: Go oh Thank god for.

600
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: That me, too because us, blokes we don't want to

601
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: be you, know we're out for. Males we're not scared of,

602
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: anything which is. Bullshit we're scared of every fucking second.

603
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: Thing we just don't want you to know because we

604
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: want you to think much better than we actually, are you. Know,

605
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah so tell me about you and fear and how

606
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: you within the three sixty kind of.

607
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: Paradigm you talk about.

608
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: That, Yep so well it's.

609
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: START i guess there's going to be it's going to.

610
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 4: Start there's going to be a, input an input of

611
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 4: some sort of stimulus, something and it gets coded for.

612
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: Something an example would be you're walking along a bush

613
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 4: track and you see a long brown thing out of

614
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: the corner of your.

615
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 3: Eye because your peripherle vision isn't, perfect.

616
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: You're, amgdala which is your it's like a big emotional.

617
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 4: Responder it's going to just take the rough particles of

618
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 4: that and it's going to apply a few meanings to.

619
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: It and if you're an outdoorsman and you and, you

620
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 4: you've got a terrarium with seventeen brown snakes and you're

621
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 4: kissing them each, morning your response to that is going to, be,

622
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: oh a new.

623
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: Friend you, know it's going to be.

624
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 4: Excitement but for most people it's going to be holy,

625
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 4: crap that's a. Snake i've got to quicken my speed.

626
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: Here and then actually it turns out to be a,

627
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 4: stick but that doesn't. Matter but the idea is that

628
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 4: you're taking rough data and you're creating a story out of,

629
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: that and then this is where it gets really.

630
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: Interesting is that.

631
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: Some people will send that message to their, adrenals some

632
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 4: people will send it to their, cortex which is the

633
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 4: front part of their brain or the prefront of, cortex

634
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: and other individuals will send it to their digestive. System

635
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 4: and this is where it gets really interesting in.

636
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: How we respond to.

637
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: Stress so you'll have the more introverted, people so people like,

638
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: me and we call them crusaders and, sensors and they

639
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 4: develop with a more, powerful a more dominant prefrontal, cortex

640
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 4: more dominant, cortex and they rely on their cortex a

641
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 4: lot more to manage all the stuff that goes on

642
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: in their. Life and so that's WHY i talk about

643
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: me where it's LIKE i have a bigger sympathetic drive from.

644
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 4: Outside so you've got some people that they send that

645
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: amygdalic message of fear and it goes up to their

646
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: brain where they start going something's. WRONG i have to

647
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: comprehend it, mentally and that's where anxiety, occurs like fear

648
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 4: of what's going to happen, next and there's like a

649
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 4: whole cycling and that's when you can trigger off lots

650
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 4: of different thought, Processes like WHEN i felt this fear

651
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: before it meant That i'm not going to be included or.

652
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: Whatever and so this one little bit of input from

653
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: someone giving you a funny little, look or getting a

654
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: particular mark on an assessment that you've handed, in or

655
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 4: getting a bit of feedback from a, team that's just

656
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: not so great that for me and a couple of

657
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 4: other types of people that will stimulate the cortex and

658
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: make them. Overthink and they are often the type of

659
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: people that go through their life to, say, oh you

660
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: just thinking about this too. Much you just got to

661
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: get out of your, brain and they. Do but it's

662
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: also the place that they house the most. Power so

663
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 4: them thinking through it is actually really helpful because they

664
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: articulate their feelings as.

665
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: Thought and so if they for those.

666
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 4: People framing it mentally framing it is really really important to, say,

667
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: Oh i'm walking in the. Bush there's a chance there's a,

668
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: snake and this is WHAT i do WHEN i see a.

669
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 4: SNAKE i pause to make sure what it, is and

670
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 4: THEN i make my follow the steps to avoiding a

671
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 4: brown snake or whatever it might. Be and that's how

672
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: they would process their. Fear whereas do you want to

673
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 4: jump in, there jump me to keep?

674
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: Going, no, no that's, good that's.

675
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: Cool and then the second kind of, person just to

676
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: keep it in three groups to make it nice and,

677
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 4: simple they're going to stimulate their.

678
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: Adrenals so they're going to be.

679
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 4: The type of person that goes into hyper reactive, mode

680
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: and that is you've stimulated.

681
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: Me Now i'm, reacting and its action.

682
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: Reaction it is adrenaline plus musculoskeletal, system so it's action without.

683
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: Thinking it's amygdala. Adrenals and so this is.

684
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: The type of person that's just more likely to jump

685
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 4: on the snake or just, sprint or if they get bad,

686
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 4: feedback they're more like to, say if you none of

687
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: this is, TRUE i hate you.

688
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: All, like just do something and not even think about.

689
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 4: It or it's also the type of person that if

690
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 4: you give them, challenge they, go, WHATEVER i can do

691
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 4: it faster than, you and then they just do it

692
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 4: because they're.

693
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: Competitive so there's.

694
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 4: A musculo skeletal response and it bypasses the. Cortex and

695
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 4: then you have another person and this so that person

696
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 4: they're called the activator and, connector and then we have

697
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: the guardian and the, diplomat and there's a little bit

698
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 4: of cross over, here but this is just for the

699
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: purpose of this story right. Now this is where you'll

700
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 4: get a in their stress. Response they have a dorsal vaguel.

701
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 4: Response and from if you understand a little bit about

702
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: the vagus, nerve there is healthy activation of the vagus,

703
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 4: nerve which Is i'm, calm relaxed with friends and this is,

704
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: wonderful And i'm digesting my food and this is a

705
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 4: really lovely. Environment i'm feeling very open and LIKE i

706
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 4: want to connect with. People that's a healthy vegas nerve.

707
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 4: Response and then you have that's ventral. Vaguel and there's

708
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: the dorsal vaguel, response which is essentially a stress response

709
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 4: that shuts your body down into a. Freeze and so

710
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 4: the way that they'll experience it is their digestive system

711
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 4: will rear up like it will actually.

712
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: Create irregularities in their digestive.

713
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 4: System their face will actually, freeze so their voice will

714
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 4: change as.

715
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: Well this is all dorsal vaguel.

716
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: Response so you'll have someone turn around their stiff as

717
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 4: aboard and they'll, say, um there's a snake over, There

718
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 4: like their.

719
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 3: Voice has, changed face has. Changed, now what's so fascinating about?

720
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 4: This and you'll know this from public speaking when diplomats,

721
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 4: particularly and that they have this response because they're fighting

722
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: between the first and the last, one which is their

723
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 4: nervous system goes a million miles an hour and their

724
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: digestive system like shuts, off so they're in this like paralysis.

725
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 4: Analysis when you're public speaking in front of these, people

726
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 4: their face is, lank almost, tense and you care, thinking,

727
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 4: oh what AM i saying wrong to this?

728
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: Person and they're one of the first people to come

729
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: up with the.

730
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 4: Affter the session to say, great session got so much

731
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 4: out of, That and that's Because.

732
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: I've had that happen so so many. Times this person

733
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: fucking hates. Me, YES i loved.

734
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: It. Yeah so when they're taking on new, information it

735
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 4: actually creates a stress response for them because they're trying

736
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 4: to fit it into the tree of knowledge that they

737
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 4: have and they need time to process. It in while that's,

738
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 4: happening they, freeze and so they get a physiological. Freeze

739
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 4: their digestive is a little bit, off and their face

740
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 4: actually Shows i'm not, Happy i'm not. Comfortable and normally

741
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 4: what's fascinating about this as well is this was.

742
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: A signal to our community that this person's in.

743
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: Trouble but right, now if you see somebody like that

744
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: and they've got a freezed face and they're in a

745
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 4: team meeting because you're doing a, presentation you, think.

746
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 3: What the hell is wrong With?

747
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 4: Jane you, know you're not, thinking, Oh jane Was gane

748
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: was in a free state and there was a state

749
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 4: of alarm on her.

750
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: Face so, yes that's a fascinating.

751
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 4: Thing so some people when they get, stressed they'll go

752
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 4: into adrenaline and they deal through, action and they process

753
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: their adrenaline through. Movement another person they actually need to

754
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: go away by themselves and they need to process it

755
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 4: and reprioritize and think through it and get structure and

756
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 4: get logic and get a frame of mind around, it

757
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: whereas somebody else actually needs to, breathe you, know four seconds,

758
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 4: in eight seconds. Out that then puts them into a

759
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: healthy vaguel response that isn't a free spont. Response so

760
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: THAT'S i, mean when we're talking about, fear obviously it's

761
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 4: all of this inputs coming in in the same. Way

762
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 4: what you determine is, fear well determine on the experiences

763
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 4: that you've had in your life and various things like.

764
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 4: That but how you process that fear is going to

765
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 4: be quite. Different and this is why some people are

766
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 4: they just so great in an. Emergency i'm not great

767
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: in an. Emergency i'm. Okay BUT i sit with my

768
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 4: activator friends and they are just dang bang, dang like

769
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 4: as soon as the shit HiT's the, fan they are

770
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 4: just they've already solved the. Problem it's the most amazing

771
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: thing to see. Ever and they're so certain about their

772
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 4: decisions because they're not thinking about, it Whereas i'm going into,

773
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 4: okay there's seven different things that this could be going.

774
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 4: On i've got to be working through what's the highest

775
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 4: priority one blah blah, blah bah blah and so on

776
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: seconds behind, them whereas somebody else they're just they become,

777
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 4: passive they retreat completely into their into a freeze. Response

778
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 4: so that's that's the that's the framework that we're normally working.

779
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: With it's, funny so so many things out of that

780
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: for me one AND i just think this is How i'm.

781
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: BUILT i don't think it's any, UH i don't know

782
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: Anything i've really.

783
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 1: Developed but when my training partner had a cardiac, arrest

784
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: do you remember this?

785
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: Story did you know THAT i know of the story

786
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: but it remind me.

787
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: Ay so he dropped dead in the, gym literally right

788
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: and we were.

789
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: Training he did a set of, chins came, down fell

790
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: on the, floor went on his hands and. KNEES i

791
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: thought he was having some kind of, seizure which kind

792
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: of was his heart was, ceasing cardiac. Arrest, Dead and

793
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: so it took me a minute to figure out what was.

794
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: Happening not a, minute probably ten seconds to go. On

795
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: now he's Had i'd enough it was a heart attack

796
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: or cardiac. Arrest but the bottom line was his heart had. Stopped,

797
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: obviously people have heart attacks without their heart, stopping but

798
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: his heart had, stopped and all this shit THAT i

799
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: won't describe for the listeners was going. On and so

800
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: AND i, mean it's not like it was, fun but

801
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: within you, know ten, Seconds i'd turned him.

802
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: Over he was on face. Down i'd turn him.

803
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: OVER i got him into a position WHERE i could

804
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: work on, him AND i was working on. Him but

805
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: what was interesting for me WAS i didn't feel out

806
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: of control at any. AGE i didn't feel you, KNOW

807
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: i didn't feel, calm BUT i didn't FEEL.

808
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what the word is like extreme.

809
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: STRESS i was just very very, focused and there was

810
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: about another twenty people in the gym and nobody would

811
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: come and. Help, yeah everybody else was freaked the fuck.

812
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: Out and by the, WAY i don't think this is

813
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: any kind of accolade for, me BECAUSE i think it's

814
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: just HOW i am And i'm very grateful for. That but,

815
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: yeah AND i guess one of the other THINGS i

816
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: wanted to.

817
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: Ask or as SOMETHING i wanted to ask around this is.

818
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: You, know it's, like we do have the way that

819
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: we naturally respond to different, things or our body or

820
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: our brain or our mind or, whatever our kind of

821
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: automatic response to whatever the.

822
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: Stimulus is or stimuli.

823
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: Are but it's in our interest sometimes to be able

824
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: to change that because we Need we. Can't IF i

825
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: keep responding this, WAY i can't do. Life and my

826
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: one last boring story is WHEN i. MOVED i moved

827
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: To Western australia WHEN i was nineteen years, old Which

828
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: i'm pretty sure you don't know this, story AND i

829
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: worked on what's called an aluminium, refinery was the aluminium

830
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: refinery for a, year, yeah as a trades, assistant and

831
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: then an unlicensed rigor which is working on. Heights AND

832
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: i wasn't terrified of, heights BUT i didn't love. THEM

833
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: i was probably average and then. Over and so WHEN

834
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: i the first, day like my godfather was a he

835
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: was in, management there was three thousand men on this.

836
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: Site it was fucking it was as big as a.

837
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: Town it was just dirt.

838
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: And trucks and generators and fucking wild wild. Men no.

839
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: Women it was just the Wild. West and my godfather,

840
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: said when your supervisor asks you if you're afraid of,

841
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: heights say. No and when they ask you where you're,

842
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: from do not Say. VICTORIA i went. Cool that was

843
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: his two bits of, advice. Right they fucking Hated, Victorians

844
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: and SO i SAID i was From, tazzy WHICH i

845
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: lived In tazzy for a long time as a. Kid

846
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: SO i got away with. That and but, yeah the

847
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: first DAY i had to climb up the side of

848
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: a Great WHEN i say great, BIG i mean fourteen

849
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: stories high tank which was built to contain gas which

850
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: hadn't been operationalized.

851
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: Yet but it didn't have you know how they have

852
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: ladders welded to the tank or that whatever the welded

853
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: and the cage around it didn't have that.

854
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: Yet, yeah it.

855
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: Had the, well it Had, sorry it had the, ladder

856
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: but it didn't have the safety shit around. It and he,

857
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: goes your, team so you work as a team of,

858
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: three a welder and a welder and a boiler maker

859
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: and a trades. Assistant i'm the trades. Assistant he, goes

860
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: you're working with these two guys up the. Top rob

861
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: And benny go up in introduce yourself AND i go

862
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: go up and he, goes, YEAH i go how how

863
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: DO i get?

864
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: Up and he's, like what do you. Mean it's, like,

865
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: well there's a.

866
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: Ladder so it's one hundred and forty feet, high, mate

867
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: like fourteen stories and there's. Nothing if you, fall you,

868
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: fall you just fu, yeah like you're just. Dead so we.

869
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: Are the guys that make it safe for. Everyone SO

870
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: i climb up fourteen, stories fourteen, stories carrying like a

871
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: tool belt and all this, shit AND i get to the.

872
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: Top my heart rate was fucking nine. THOUSAND i was

873
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: the most Scared i've ever, like not even. Close i'd

874
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: never been anywhere near that scared in my.

875
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 3: Life oh my. God six months.

876
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: LATER i was walking around on, rsj's which are steel,

877
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: beams like they were, Footpaths Like i'd been completely whatever

878
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: it is is my. Responses i've been. DESENSITIZED i, MEAN

879
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: i was still very aware how dangerous it, was but

880
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: the fear and all the accompanying physiological you, know events

881
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: in my, body they'd all but.

882
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: Disappeared. Wow then it's just, like, OH i, MEAN i

883
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: don't know if everyone could like to we all have

884
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 2: the capacity to, change because, REALLY i, mean it's about

885
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: how you interpret whatever that.

886
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: Is, like fear is an individual, response as is all

887
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: of the physiology that goes with.

888
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 4: It, Right, YES i would say that everyone's got a

889
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: capacity to deamplify that stress response and to normalize themselves within.

890
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 4: It but then there's a difference between that and some

891
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 4: people enjoying the sensation of that risk as. Well so

892
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: some people and the reason that they would enjoy, it,

893
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 4: yeah is because and as we have sort of summized

894
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 4: through our years of, interactions you're probably in between the

895
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 4: activator connector piece and the. Andres you actually have more

896
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 4: access to, steroids so you produce more, steroids and so

897
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 4: when you get into a place that requires, steroids which

898
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 4: is when you're at, risk you've got a capacity to

899
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 4: hold them, on whereas somebody. Else we talk about the dipmat,

900
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: again they are high pos steroidal and so are, sensus

901
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 4: so they. Can't they would go into a significant exhaustion

902
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 4: after that exposure to that level of. Stress they wouldn't

903
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 4: recover as fast and they would have less tolerance for

904
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 4: that state of. Petrification, essentially whereas somebody with the strongest

905
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 4: deroidal structure and ability to create, it they've got, YE

906
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 4: i can make, that AND i could make that, again

907
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 4: AND i could make that, again so everybody could de

908
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 4: amplify the.

909
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 3: Response but then some people physiologically aren't.

910
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 4: Built to be able to sustain the background risk that's

911
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 4: going on as. Well and this is why you'll see

912
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 4: people that, SAY i don't walk around on. BUILDINGS i

913
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 4: work from home in a very dimly lit room which

914
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 4: is nice and calm and, warm where there's zero, risk

915
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: because my adrenals just can't tolerate more than twenty minutes

916
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 4: of stress at the. Time so, yeah, yeah and, yeah

917
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 4: that's fascinating, though just the impact of. EXPOSURE i was

918
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 4: sweating while you were telling that.

919
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 3: Story was all over.

920
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: One other quick, one not as.

921
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: Exciting BUT i did security FOR i don't know three

922
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: and a half or four years WHEN i was younger

923
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: WHEN i got back To. Melbourne so from like twenty

924
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: to twenty, FOUR i worked in pubs and clubs AND

925
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: i didn't drink, right SO i never really went to.

926
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: PUBS i definitely never went to. Clubs BUT i was

927
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: working in nightclubs and doing. Security AND i remember the first,

928
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: well definitely the first few weeks just BEING i. Reckon

929
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: LIKE i worked from like nine till, three like fantastic,

930
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: hours like three nights a, week so and you've just

931
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: your job is just to make sure people don't fuck

932
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: up too much and to get rid of people who

933
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: are fucking, up and to you, know.

934
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: It's not a fun.

935
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: Job and LIKE i was quite big and strong at

936
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: that stage and young and dumb and full of you

937
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: know what and all of that. Shit but for the

938
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: first MONTH i reckon every night WHEN i was in,

939
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: There my heart rate just just being there was probably

940
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: a hundred just being in the.

941
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: Room, yeah just a.

942
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: Hundred, right and then anything, happens then you're up to

943
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: one sixty one eighty and. Escalate BUT i remember at the,

944
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: start like a week in thinking BECAUSE i lived with a,

945
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: guy we shared a, house and he did. It he

946
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: was a big he was a fucking, unit, Right so

947
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: he wasn't really he wasn't really afraid of too. Much

948
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: And i'm, Like i'm afraid this is this is this

949
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: is fucking. Terrifying but, anyway and then fast forward six.

950
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: Months you, know it wasn't my natural habitat by any,

951
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: means but all.

952
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: Of that stuff had.

953
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: Gone you, KNOW i could be in the middle of

954
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 1: altercations AND i was relatively calm and in control and

955
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: drunk aggressive or high aggressive people or fuck wits or

956
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: the stuff.

957
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: That used to you.

958
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: Know and, AGAIN i wouldn't recommend it to, anyone but

959
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: for me who grew up like in the, country going

960
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: to a private school WITH i, mean my childhood was

961
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: so innocent and. Boring and Then i'm in the city

962
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: And i'm in nightclubs and there's gangs and there's, this

963
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: and there's. That i'm, like oh, fuck this is a different.

964
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: World BUT i think you acclimate or you, know there

965
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: are some things you probably don't want to acclimate or adapt.

966
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: To but, YEAH i, remember that's exactly what.

967
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: Happens THAT'S i think where the Natural this is where

968
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 4: the nature versus nurture. Thing you're talking about nurturing like

969
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 4: in you surround yourself with the environment and a if

970
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: you can. Adapt but that's because it's also in your

971
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 4: nature to be somewhat comfortable in slightly heightened, circumstances like

972
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 4: even public. Speaking it's a slightly heightened. CIRCUMSTANCE i know

973
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 4: everyone's into public, speaking.

974
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: As we know whereas.

975
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 4: What and this is the fascinating thing about it is

976
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 4: THAT i would say it's a very important life lesson

977
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 4: is that you don't have to want to or enjoy

978
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 4: acclimating to all the things that everybody else, does because

979
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 4: there would have been a bunch of people in your

980
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 4: position that never acclimated and they would have dropped out

981
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: after two, months and they wouldn't have because their body

982
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 4: just wouldn't have enjoyed. It and their body, says, hey

983
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 4: when you give a particular, nurture the nature will. Act

984
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 4: and your nature was that of a. THING i can handle.

985
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 4: THIS i can get to a point WHERE i can handle,

986
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 4: it whether it be your own sort of search for

987
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 4: growth or just your capacity. Anyway but some individuals physiologically

988
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 4: don't adapt as. Fast their body, says this feels. Awful

989
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 4: you hate, This go and do something else with your.

990
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 4: Life and this is gets back to that conversation purpose

991
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 4: that we. Had some bodies are not designed to be

992
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 4: in a heightened, state particularly when there's a physicality that's

993
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 4: associated with it as, well and it's really violating for

994
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 4: them to be in that state for a long, time

995
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 4: and their body will send them lots of signals to,

996
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 4: say this.

997
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 3: Is not your, purpose this is not your.

998
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 4: Purpose and even if they were to go that extra six,

999
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 4: months they might get, there but it still wouldn't be

1000
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 4: as natural as it is rather some other. People and

1001
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 4: this IS i think that's so important that you don't

1002
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 4: have to be afraid of, everything but you do not

1003
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 4: have to brush your fear in every little thing to

1004
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 4: feel like you, can you, know completely unlock your potential as.

1005
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: WELL i think that's very.

1006
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 4: Important but having a framework OF i can navigate myself

1007
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 4: through fear is absolutely essential for.

1008
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 3: Growth All, Right.

1009
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: I've got a fun question to finish. On So i've

1010
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: been listening to What i'm out and. ABOUT i tried

1011
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: not to listen to, academic bloody stuff or you. Know

1012
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: i'll listen to a podcast some like something my numbing or,

1013
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: funny or audio books And i've never.

1014
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: Listened to fiction in my.

1015
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: Life until about six months, ago Because i'm, LIKE i

1016
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: don't do fiction ONLY i only acquire. Knowledge i'm too

1017
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: smart to listen to. Fiction like, Now i'm a FUCKING

1018
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: i love. It So i've listened all these. Books i'm

1019
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: listening to this book at the moment Called The Terminal.

1020
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: List there was a, movie which the movie wasn't, great

1021
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: but the book's really well, Known The Terminal, list.

1022
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: And the main character in the, book his Name's James.

1023
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: Reese, anyway the book also is written by A navy,

1024
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: seal so the details. Fantastic but, anyway it's like in

1025
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: all of these operations and, stuff they talk about the

1026
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: preparation and execution and performing under pressure and like the

1027
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: the stuff that probably humans just shouldn't have to do

1028
00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: or have to, see you, know war. Stuff but that's

1029
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: the world we live, in where this, is for better or,

1030
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: worse like it or, not it is part of the

1031
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: reality of.

1032
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: Life and so for.

1033
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: These elite you, know special ops kind of, operators they

1034
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: need to be the calm in the. Chaos they need

1035
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: to be able to do shit That i'd fall apart

1036
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: even thinking about. Doing they need to be able to do,

1037
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: it you, know inside. Out back to, front eyes closed

1038
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: and keep their heart rate at. Sixty so my question is, sensor, activator, crusader, guardian,

1039
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: diplomat connector in the pH D by the, WAY pH three,

1040
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: SIXTY i should say health. TYPE i just described go

1041
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: check them out if you haven't done so. Yet which

1042
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: one of those is going to make the best special?

1043
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: Operator who's going to make the Best Seal team six?

1044
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 4: Leader it's going to be a, crusaders diplomats or guardians

1045
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 4: are generally going to be the best, leaders and in

1046
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 4: that particular, environment there's no limitation to an activator or

1047
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 4: a connector doing it as. Well but their natural state

1048
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 4: is to be more impulsive and to want more, freedom

1049
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 4: and that can sometimes make them not want to be

1050
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 4: the top.

1051
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: Guy they want to.

1052
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 4: Be able to be the guy that follows just just

1053
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 4: runs and does. Things so there's a natural inclination for

1054
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 4: them to be to take more risk and sometimes that

1055
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 4: you need a more considered head for the leader as

1056
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: far as they're selecting. Them but there's a particular type

1057
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 4: of crusader it would need to be a number eighty

1058
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 4: five on the circle and then and the reason for

1059
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 4: that is because that type of crusader is physically much.

1060
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 4: Bigger So i'm a seventy five And i'm eighty kilos

1061
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy nine. CENTIMETERS a typical eighty five

1062
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 4: would be you, know ninety to one hundred kilos and

1063
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: six for. Three they've just got a much bigger upper,

1064
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: body much more resilient body for the demands that are.

1065
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: Required the other type is the diplomat as.

1066
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 4: Well the diplomat they've got that, strength they've got much stronger,

1067
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 4: legs they've naturally got a stronger.

1068
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 3: Body they would.

1069
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 4: Need a particular diplomat that they would need with a

1070
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 4: really good athletic. Background they need particular. Collagen diplomats generally

1071
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 4: have more flexible, collagen so you'd need a diplomat with

1072
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: tighter collagen without that coal, variant so that they don't

1073
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 4: get the soft tissue injuries because they're much like we

1074
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 4: see in sports. Athletes if you've got the particular collagen,

1075
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 4: genes you'll just you'll get softissue injuries from all of

1076
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 4: the volume that they. Do so it need to be

1077
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 4: a particular, diplomat and the reason why it'd select them

1078
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 4: is that they've got a fantastic order orderliness and structure

1079
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 4: and they're, considered and if you have a, combinat you'd

1080
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 4: need an activatory element to their mind because everyone's not

1081
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 4: just one. Type you would need a diplomat with athletic

1082
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 4: body like tight, collagen strong, collagen and an activator, mindset

1083
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 4: and that would essentially give them the ability to make

1084
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: decisions in the, moment because a diplomat normally would need more,

1085
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 4: time so you need that little. Variation and then for a,

1086
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: guardian you'd be looking at a guardian with a more crusadery.

1087
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 4: Secondary because the guardians are. Incredible they're very very, strong highly,

1088
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Speaker 4: protective and that's very very, good but you would need

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Speaker 4: the strategic mission over people. Mentality AND i know that

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Speaker 4: at the end of the day they drag everyone they can,

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Speaker 4: out but ultimately the mission is more important than the

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Speaker 4: man and that's something that the guardians naturally would struggle

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Speaker 4: with because they would form a family bond with the

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Speaker 4: people around them as.

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Speaker 3: Well so they would be incredible for extrication.

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Speaker 4: And making sure everyone gets, home but when it comes

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Speaker 4: to mission or, people you would need a crusader element

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Speaker 4: which outcomes over.

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Speaker 3: People so that would be my. Diagnosis you would not have.

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Speaker 4: A sensor in sas they actually stopped sensors.

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Speaker 3: Going to war In World War.

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Speaker 4: TWO i don't remember those photos where they were taking

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Speaker 4: measurements of the thorax guys blowing their chest up as.

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Speaker 3: Much as they.

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Speaker 4: Could they knew, that they knew that a person with

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Speaker 4: a smaller thorax sort of the mid, chest they knew

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Speaker 4: that they had a much higher likelihood OF ptsd coming,

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Speaker 4: home like eighty percent rate versus someone with a thicker,

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Speaker 4: thorax much. Less and that's because the thinner thorax the

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Speaker 4: sensor much more sensitive than, noise much more sensitive to

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Speaker 4: like much less. Strong actually they've got smaller muscle, belly

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Speaker 4: so carrying thirty kilos plus their, gun they would break

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Speaker 4: a lot faster as. Well like they're just not built for,

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Speaker 4: combat the. Sensors so, yeah fascinate, Anyway so that's where i'd.

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Speaker 4: Go and even based off the special forces THAT i,

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Speaker 4: know they seem to be like The in, fact the

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Speaker 4: ones THAT i do know are crusaders within that range

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Speaker 4: or diplomats within that, range or guard within that. Range

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Speaker 4: but then there's a few activators and connectors THAT i

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Speaker 4: know of as well that just get stuck.

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Speaker 3: In so that's My, wow it is.

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Speaker 2: There it.

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Speaker 1: Is so you're thinking about becoming AN elead, operator covert,

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Speaker 1: operative a government.

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Speaker 2: Assassin you just got you your. Guidebook, hey how can

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Speaker 2: people connect with? You find, you follow you all that? Stuff?

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Speaker 2: Cam thank.

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Speaker 4: You probably easiest way is to search doctor car McDonald

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Speaker 4: Shay shae on the internets or doctor car McDonald on.

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Speaker 4: LinkedIn please make a. Friend and if you're interested as

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Speaker 4: a health professional to learn about the science or corporate

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Speaker 4: well being or. Schools while it's doing a lot of this.

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Speaker 4: Stuff all of the stuff we said about stress is

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Speaker 4: actually relevant for students in, class which no one is,

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Speaker 4: considering and even through the gym's all of that sort of.

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Speaker 4: Stuff so if we've got information and applications for, everybody be.

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Speaker 2: The app Butter, cup all, right, mate we appreciate.

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Speaker 1: You we'll say goodbye off, are but look after that

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Speaker 1: scrotum of yours and that that testical region and we'll chat.

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Speaker 3: Again appreciate.

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Speaker 2: It