1 00:00:00,350 --> 00:00:10,050 Speaker 1: This is Brownies Podcast! 2 00:00:10,369 --> 00:00:12,190 Speaker 2: Oh boy, welcome to Brownies Podcast. 3 00:00:12,250 --> 00:00:15,550 Speaker 3: Jonathan Brown, Campbell Brown, myself, Dean Thomas, and in the 4 00:00:15,570 --> 00:00:17,470 Speaker 3: studio we've got Fly. 5 00:00:17,750 --> 00:00:18,150 Speaker 4: Yes. 6 00:00:18,210 --> 00:00:19,989 Speaker 2: Finally a credible guest, man. 7 00:00:20,010 --> 00:00:21,210 Speaker 4: G'day, Dino. 8 00:00:21,230 --> 00:00:21,350 Speaker 1: G'day. 9 00:00:21,390 --> 00:00:25,009 Speaker 5: How you going? The only man that answered our phone 10 00:00:25,030 --> 00:00:26,090 Speaker 5: call all year. 11 00:00:26,130 --> 00:00:27,030 Speaker 6: So how are you, mate? 12 00:00:27,070 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 4: I'm good. For any... Text me. He says, oh, any 13 00:00:29,620 --> 00:00:30,980 Speaker 4: chance you can come in? I said, I'll be there 14 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:31,580 Speaker 4: for you, Brownie. 15 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,700 Speaker 5: I'll be there for you, mate. He used to. 16 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,139 Speaker 3: Buddy Franklin has been ignoring this man. He's a premiership teammate. 17 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 4: Well, that's feedback, isn't it? 18 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:40,050 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly right. 19 00:00:40,060 --> 00:00:42,430 Speaker 7: I'm just glad you can bring guests in because I've 20 00:00:42,450 --> 00:00:43,550 Speaker 7: been doing this three years and. 21 00:00:43,530 --> 00:00:44,210 Speaker 6: Got no one. 22 00:00:44,470 --> 00:00:48,810 Speaker 5: Well, he promised Clarko. He promised Mitch. He's promised Buddy. 23 00:00:49,770 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 5: He has not delivered. The only time we got Mitch in, 24 00:00:51,970 --> 00:00:53,630 Speaker 5: I actually rang Mitch directly. 25 00:00:53,650 --> 00:00:54,130 Speaker 6: I know, I know. 26 00:00:54,390 --> 00:00:56,700 Speaker 5: And so Mitch came in. That was last year. But 27 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 5: great to have you, mate. Premiership coach last year, of course. 28 00:00:59,240 --> 00:00:59,460 Speaker 1: But. 29 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,620 Speaker 4: Geez, we're hanging on to that, aren't we? 30 00:01:01,780 --> 00:01:02,580 Speaker 6: Unlikely. 31 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 5: Not participating in the finals in September. 32 00:01:04,980 --> 00:01:05,940 Speaker 6: What are you doing yourself? 33 00:01:06,260 --> 00:01:08,190 Speaker 4: Jeez, 12 months is a long time for you. 34 00:01:08,270 --> 00:01:08,810 Speaker 6: It is, mate. 35 00:01:08,830 --> 00:01:09,650 Speaker 4: Things change quickly. 36 00:01:09,670 --> 00:01:10,070 Speaker 6: Yeah. 37 00:01:10,730 --> 00:01:12,970 Speaker 4: Yeah, still sort of working. There's lots to be done. 38 00:01:12,990 --> 00:01:14,729 Speaker 4: Trying to not stand still. 39 00:01:14,750 --> 00:01:17,209 Speaker 6: Oh, so they're not just tools down for September? 40 00:01:17,430 --> 00:01:20,150 Speaker 4: No, there's lots to be done. There's sort of exit 41 00:01:20,170 --> 00:01:23,429 Speaker 4: interviews with players and then try to acquire new staff 42 00:01:23,470 --> 00:01:24,170 Speaker 4: and all sorts of things. 43 00:01:24,450 --> 00:01:26,669 Speaker 3: Flyer, when you're here, what do you say to the 44 00:01:26,730 --> 00:01:29,290 Speaker 3: Collingwood fan listening that just needs some words from you? 45 00:01:29,610 --> 00:01:30,669 Speaker 2: What do you say to them? 46 00:01:30,690 --> 00:01:32,310 Speaker 4: Well, I'd like to think that the way we finished 47 00:01:32,330 --> 00:01:34,300 Speaker 4: the year was a was a good way to sort 48 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 4: of exit if you're not going to play finals at 49 00:01:35,819 --> 00:01:37,890 Speaker 4: least we sort of got our game back on track 50 00:01:37,970 --> 00:01:40,770 Speaker 4: and all those you know the Brisbane win with a 51 00:01:40,770 --> 00:01:43,630 Speaker 4: you know minute to go with you know right to 52 00:01:43,670 --> 00:01:45,970 Speaker 4: the last hour and winning those games still is there 53 00:01:45,990 --> 00:01:48,980 Speaker 4: for all for all to be seen and a year 54 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 4: of challenges many injuries and illness and all sorts of 55 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,270 Speaker 4: things and So yeah, maybe a year we might have 56 00:01:56,290 --> 00:01:57,650 Speaker 4: had to have to be better next year. 57 00:01:57,670 --> 00:01:59,130 Speaker 6: How do you deal with senior players? 58 00:01:59,770 --> 00:02:02,770 Speaker 5: So obviously you've experienced as a player, mate, you understand 59 00:02:02,810 --> 00:02:06,170 Speaker 5: the emotions and the ups and downs of climbing the 60 00:02:06,220 --> 00:02:08,940 Speaker 5: mountain and then having to come back and rebuild and 61 00:02:08,980 --> 00:02:12,060 Speaker 5: go again. How do you deal with the senior players 62 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:16,500 Speaker 5: and helping them with the emotions and the challenges of motivation, 63 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,500 Speaker 5: the challenge of conditioning, all those sorts of things? 64 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,870 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to think that our senior players are 65 00:02:21,889 --> 00:02:25,710 Speaker 4: highly motivated. You think about Steele and Howie and Pendles, 66 00:02:25,770 --> 00:02:29,790 Speaker 4: if those three just in particular, they're hungry, hungry athletes. Yeah, 67 00:02:31,410 --> 00:02:33,270 Speaker 4: we're in a hurry to get rid of our experience 68 00:02:33,330 --> 00:02:36,780 Speaker 4: in our industry for some reason. And, you know, there's 69 00:02:36,820 --> 00:02:39,790 Speaker 4: always an expiry date for everyone. But our last game 70 00:02:39,810 --> 00:02:41,910 Speaker 4: of the year, we had Ed Allen playing his second game. 71 00:02:41,950 --> 00:02:45,530 Speaker 4: He's a young kid from Perth, a high pick for us. And, yeah, 72 00:02:45,710 --> 00:02:48,590 Speaker 4: we want him to be the next version of our midfield. 73 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:50,859 Speaker 4: And gets a game and he comes to the first 74 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: centre bounce. And there's still side bottom 300 games. You know, 75 00:02:55,700 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 4: Pendle's 400 games. And he's in his second game. And 76 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: Pendle comes up to me and goes, oh, where do 77 00:03:00,020 --> 00:03:02,590 Speaker 4: you want this, mate? the first bounce against Melbourne, he goes, 78 00:03:02,630 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: what do you mean? He goes, where do you want 79 00:03:04,220 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 4: the ball hit to? Because you're the go-to. And he goes, ah, 80 00:03:07,380 --> 00:03:09,630 Speaker 4: over there. And you can imagine this kid in his 81 00:03:09,669 --> 00:03:12,709 Speaker 4: second game getting told by a 400th gamer, you're the guy. 82 00:03:13,150 --> 00:03:16,700 Speaker 4: And so our experience... Yeah, he's been enormous for us, 83 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:17,989 Speaker 4: and we're not in a hurry to get rid of him. 84 00:03:18,060 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, if you can get harness 85 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,620 Speaker 4: in with the right energy, yeah, it's a weapon if 86 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: you can have it. 87 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,420 Speaker 7: Did you let form dictate that with Pendles and also Steele? 88 00:03:28,460 --> 00:03:30,700 Speaker 7: Because I know that sort of Mitch probably is a 89 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 7: bit similar with Gunston and Bruce. Like at one stage, 90 00:03:33,380 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 7: it looked like those two guys weren't going to go on, 91 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 7: and now they've got one-year deals. Was it something that 92 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 7: you said, we'll see how the year plays out, see 93 00:03:40,620 --> 00:03:42,210 Speaker 7: how their bodies are holding up, and then make a call? 94 00:03:42,410 --> 00:03:44,730 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were slightly different because Stills started the year 95 00:03:44,750 --> 00:03:48,810 Speaker 4: recently in average form at his high levels. But Pendles, 96 00:03:48,850 --> 00:03:50,630 Speaker 4: it's the same with the captaincy with Pendles. I just 97 00:03:50,650 --> 00:03:52,330 Speaker 4: said to him, mate, this is yours for as long 98 00:03:52,370 --> 00:03:54,670 Speaker 4: as you want it. And we've got a relationship. I 99 00:03:54,710 --> 00:03:59,180 Speaker 4: know he's not going to take us for granted in 100 00:03:59,220 --> 00:04:01,900 Speaker 4: this sense. He knows his body well. He knows what 101 00:04:01,940 --> 00:04:04,380 Speaker 4: he's capable of. He's still really hungry in the mind, 102 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,030 Speaker 4: and as long as he is– Yeah, well, this is 103 00:04:07,050 --> 00:04:08,490 Speaker 4: your career, man. We'll back you in. 104 00:04:08,730 --> 00:04:10,830 Speaker 3: Hey, Fly, are you and the other coaches in the 105 00:04:11,010 --> 00:04:14,750 Speaker 3: league looking at Sam Mitchell going, this young little son 106 00:04:14,810 --> 00:04:16,029 Speaker 3: of a. 107 00:04:17,810 --> 00:04:19,630 Speaker 4: Well, not so much that. I worked with Sam for 108 00:04:19,630 --> 00:04:23,349 Speaker 4: 12 months, and funnily enough, before... He was given the 109 00:04:23,370 --> 00:04:26,410 Speaker 4: job to take over from Clark while I was at Hawthorne, so... 110 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: and I hadn't had the job at Collingwood, so we 111 00:04:28,980 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: were talking a lot in coffees, and I'm just listening, 112 00:04:30,900 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: and he goes, I'm going to be really aggressive with 113 00:04:32,460 --> 00:04:34,530 Speaker 4: the offence, and I think the next premiership's going to 114 00:04:34,550 --> 00:04:36,810 Speaker 4: be one through offence. I thought, I like this. I 115 00:04:36,830 --> 00:04:39,710 Speaker 4: get the Collingwood job, I go, I'm taking this. 116 00:04:39,850 --> 00:04:40,670 Speaker 8: Absolutely. 117 00:04:40,690 --> 00:04:43,050 Speaker 5: Which you've done, and it does help you with Nick 118 00:04:43,070 --> 00:04:45,890 Speaker 5: Dacos and the team. Tell us about the Dacos effect. 119 00:04:46,790 --> 00:04:49,869 Speaker 4: Look, I think it's, I'd laugh this year when he's kicking, 120 00:04:50,250 --> 00:04:52,369 Speaker 4: he's really taking the piss out of the game against Brisbane. 121 00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:55,820 Speaker 4: He's kicking goals from everywhere and changing positions, The scoreboard 122 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,340 Speaker 4: just threw his influence. I'm in awe of him. I 123 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: really am. And I said after the game, I'm going 124 00:05:01,220 --> 00:05:05,250 Speaker 4: to tell my grandkids I coached Nick Dacos. Because this kid, he's– 125 00:05:05,339 --> 00:05:09,510 Speaker 4: I coached– oh, was that Richmond with Dusty? We played 126 00:05:09,529 --> 00:05:12,830 Speaker 4: with so many greats, Brownie. And this guy, he's got 127 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:16,710 Speaker 4: all those attributes of Ablett and other parts, but he's 128 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:18,950 Speaker 4: an elite runner, absolute elite runner. 129 00:05:18,970 --> 00:05:19,050 Speaker 1: Yeah. 130 00:05:19,790 --> 00:05:22,349 Speaker 4: And that's a game changer in the current footy because 131 00:05:22,610 --> 00:05:24,730 Speaker 4: he'll be here and next minute he's trying. 132 00:05:24,370 --> 00:05:26,460 Speaker 6: To rest down the road. And it's high speed running too, 133 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:26,740 Speaker 6: isn't it? 134 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:27,380 Speaker 4: Intense. 135 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 6: So would he win a. 136 00:05:31,140 --> 00:05:33,550 Speaker 5: So Steele's side bottom was always regarded as a high 137 00:05:33,570 --> 00:05:36,070 Speaker 5: speed runner for a long period of time. Would he 138 00:05:36,630 --> 00:05:38,929 Speaker 5: be still in a running test? 139 00:05:39,130 --> 00:05:41,550 Speaker 4: Well, a couple of years ago he did. He came 140 00:05:41,589 --> 00:05:44,450 Speaker 4: back from after we lost to Sydney in a prelim 141 00:05:44,490 --> 00:05:45,989 Speaker 4: and he came back and won the time trial. 142 00:05:46,190 --> 00:05:46,810 Speaker 6: Yeah. 143 00:05:47,050 --> 00:05:47,290 Speaker 2: He's 21. 144 00:05:47,290 --> 00:05:47,770 Speaker 4: My God. 145 00:05:47,950 --> 00:05:49,540 Speaker 5: He's amazing, isn't he? 146 00:05:49,570 --> 00:05:49,770 Speaker 3: He's 21. 147 00:05:49,750 --> 00:05:52,650 Speaker 8: What's something quirky about him that people might not know? 148 00:05:52,670 --> 00:05:52,850 Speaker 5: Dirt. 149 00:05:52,870 --> 00:05:55,330 Speaker 7: Has he got an OCD or does he do something 150 00:05:55,450 --> 00:05:57,770 Speaker 7: funny pre-game? 151 00:05:58,180 --> 00:06:00,910 Speaker 5: He's quite a little shy. 152 00:06:00,450 --> 00:06:02,979 Speaker 4: Little young man. We love that about him. 153 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 154 00:06:03,380 --> 00:06:05,260 Speaker 4: Apparently he goes over to his girlfriend's house and plays 155 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: Game Boy. I know that. 156 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 6: Oh, he plays Game Boy. Do you still live with 157 00:06:09,460 --> 00:06:09,940 Speaker 6: mum and dad? 158 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 4: I think he does. 159 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: That's charming, John. 160 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 6: I think he does. 161 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 5: That's charming. Well, of course you would do that because 162 00:06:15,490 --> 00:06:18,589 Speaker 5: mum can do the washing for you. 163 00:06:18,650 --> 00:06:19,710 Speaker 6: Free rents. Free rents. 164 00:06:20,490 --> 00:06:24,630 Speaker 5: Do you feel like you can't abuse it because it 165 00:06:24,670 --> 00:06:27,070 Speaker 5: must be an unbelievable feeling to have this chess piece? 166 00:06:27,790 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 5: Do you have to be careful with your coaching not 167 00:06:30,100 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 5: to pull the rest of the team out of whack? 168 00:06:32,180 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: No. Yes and no. I just openly say, mate, we'll 169 00:06:36,820 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: play Nick where we need to win the game, and 170 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,060 Speaker 4: he knows that. So I often get– we have the 171 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:43,660 Speaker 4: team meeting, and then we have these walkthroughs, and then 172 00:06:43,700 --> 00:06:46,219 Speaker 4: I get Nick with Pendles. Say, Pendles, come over here. 173 00:06:46,700 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 4: And we have a separate meeting. This week we're going 174 00:06:49,580 --> 00:06:51,650 Speaker 4: to do this. Can you just make sure he's okay? 175 00:06:51,950 --> 00:06:54,989 Speaker 4: And so the team don't really know at times, but 176 00:06:55,029 --> 00:06:56,230 Speaker 4: we make the game around Nick a lot. 177 00:06:56,410 --> 00:06:58,529 Speaker 7: Darcy Moore's been a great captain for your footy club. 178 00:06:58,610 --> 00:07:00,670 Speaker 7: Who do you see being the next heir apparent? 179 00:07:01,710 --> 00:07:04,770 Speaker 4: Well, we'd like to think there's a few. But Nick's 180 00:07:04,790 --> 00:07:07,469 Speaker 4: not in our leadership group yet. And you'd think we're 181 00:07:07,529 --> 00:07:11,830 Speaker 4: probably at that stage where we're progressing towards that next 182 00:07:11,870 --> 00:07:14,510 Speaker 4: generation of who's the young one coming through. And I'd 183 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:16,380 Speaker 4: be surprised if he's not somewhere in the mark. But 184 00:07:17,460 --> 00:07:20,220 Speaker 4: he's probably the obvious one because I think Darcy might 185 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 4: have three or four or five years left. 186 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 6: Who knows? 187 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,100 Speaker 4: Yeah, probably him. 188 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 5: What about Jordan Ngoi? Is he going to be back 189 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,390 Speaker 5: to his full form? Bloody hope so. 190 00:07:29,410 --> 00:07:30,790 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 191 00:07:30,830 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 5: He's a star, isn't he? But I've had those groins, 192 00:07:33,100 --> 00:07:37,260 Speaker 5: I can relate to it, and he's debilitating, that injury, groins, 193 00:07:37,460 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 5: you know, stomach issues, in terms of his power. 194 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,020 Speaker 6: And his real strength is his power. 195 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,300 Speaker 4: Yeah, we wrestled this year, probably for five, six weeks, 196 00:07:45,340 --> 00:07:47,300 Speaker 4: middle of the year. He didn't train. He was not training. 197 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: He was doing straight line running and then going, oh, no, 198 00:07:49,230 --> 00:07:51,010 Speaker 4: he's right to go, and put him out and go, 199 00:07:51,030 --> 00:07:52,930 Speaker 4: he's not right to go. He can only do 85% 200 00:07:52,930 --> 00:07:56,190 Speaker 4: of what he's capable of. Time will tell on that, yeah. 201 00:07:56,410 --> 00:07:58,210 Speaker 2: Hey, Fly, when does Jake Stringer start? 202 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:03,130 Speaker 6: Right, just now. 203 00:08:03,150 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 5: Good start, Neil. 204 00:08:04,020 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: You're really good start. 205 00:08:04,860 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying to trick you, but you're too sweet. 206 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,980 Speaker 6: Tell us about getting recognised now. Oh, mate. 207 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,430 Speaker 4: I was the least recognised. Well, I was like– this 208 00:08:15,500 --> 00:08:18,230 Speaker 4: is a true story. We win a premiership and then, 209 00:08:18,370 --> 00:08:20,890 Speaker 4: you know, well done, Brownie, and well done, Acker, and Rossi, 210 00:08:20,990 --> 00:08:25,210 Speaker 4: and well done, the ball boy or the water carrier. 211 00:08:25,570 --> 00:08:27,190 Speaker 4: And then the second year, they started to know a 212 00:08:27,190 --> 00:08:29,270 Speaker 4: few more names. We went Sean Hart and all these– 213 00:08:29,610 --> 00:08:34,380 Speaker 4: The third year, they'd started, this is our own supporter base. 214 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:36,060 Speaker 4: You're number four. 215 00:08:36,100 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 5: You're number four. 216 00:08:37,059 --> 00:08:40,420 Speaker 4: And quite often they'd call me Marcus Hashcroft anyway. So 217 00:08:40,460 --> 00:08:42,700 Speaker 4: I'm not used to that. And for most of my life, 218 00:08:42,740 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 4: I didn't really care about attention. But, oh, boy, that's 219 00:08:45,620 --> 00:08:46,059 Speaker 4: changed now. 220 00:08:46,620 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 7: Fly, there was some deja vu last week involving Jack Yennevan, 221 00:08:50,140 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 7: but this time you didn't have to actually put up 222 00:08:51,980 --> 00:08:53,090 Speaker 7: with it. 223 00:08:53,330 --> 00:08:55,750 Speaker 5: What were you thinking? You've been there and seen it before. 224 00:08:55,770 --> 00:08:57,809 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to buy him a beer at 225 00:08:57,830 --> 00:08:58,630 Speaker 4: the pub last night. 226 00:09:00,900 --> 00:09:01,740 Speaker 5: That cheeky boy. 227 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:02,740 Speaker 2: Yeah. 228 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,790 Speaker 4: I like cheeky. I really like cheeky. I do. I 229 00:09:05,830 --> 00:09:06,450 Speaker 4: live in cheeky. 230 00:09:06,610 --> 00:09:06,750 Speaker 1: Yeah. 231 00:09:06,990 --> 00:09:09,770 Speaker 6: Because you're a cheeky character. 232 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:12,010 Speaker 4: No, I love it. And I wish I could be 233 00:09:12,050 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: more cheeky in press conferences. My media team, Tash, is 234 00:09:14,740 --> 00:09:16,890 Speaker 4: probably going to listen to this and She tries to 235 00:09:16,950 --> 00:09:19,050 Speaker 4: rein me back in because I want to be cheeky. 236 00:09:19,150 --> 00:09:20,730 Speaker 4: I think it's good as long as it's respectful. 237 00:09:20,910 --> 00:09:21,030 Speaker 1: Yeah. 238 00:09:21,290 --> 00:09:24,489 Speaker 4: I think there's a fine line between arrogance and disrespectful 239 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:26,190 Speaker 4: and I don't like living in that space. 240 00:09:26,390 --> 00:09:27,150 Speaker 6: Yeah. 241 00:09:27,290 --> 00:09:28,410 Speaker 4: But I do like cheeky. 242 00:09:29,410 --> 00:09:32,860 Speaker 3: Ginnivan, so when he was with Collingwood, the whole big 243 00:09:32,910 --> 00:09:34,700 Speaker 3: personality thing, that wasn't a problem. 244 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 4: Big personality? 245 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,620 Speaker 3: Like, you know, just his social media presence and it 246 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,060 Speaker 3: was the Guinea show a lot when he's around. 247 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,580 Speaker 4: Well, I think there's always a fine line on there. Whatever's... 248 00:09:46,300 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 4: attracting attention away from the team, that becomes grey. And 249 00:09:50,980 --> 00:09:53,780 Speaker 4: we lived it, didn't we, Brownie? Absolutely. 250 00:09:54,330 --> 00:09:55,490 Speaker 2: Handstands. 251 00:09:55,550 --> 00:09:58,650 Speaker 6: Well, handstands are okay. It's when it starts to go 252 00:09:58,670 --> 00:09:59,150 Speaker 6: to disrespect. 253 00:09:59,170 --> 00:10:02,309 Speaker 5: Comments in the media. But he wasn't doing handstands during 254 00:10:02,350 --> 00:10:05,430 Speaker 5: a game. That was for the fans after the game. 255 00:10:05,510 --> 00:10:09,330 Speaker 5: It's when it starts to cross over into– maybe insults 256 00:10:09,410 --> 00:10:10,130 Speaker 5: on opposition. 257 00:10:10,150 --> 00:10:12,790 Speaker 4: Those sorts of things. I know he copped a lot 258 00:10:12,809 --> 00:10:15,209 Speaker 4: of flack because this is Acker now, leading into a 259 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,579 Speaker 4: grand final, we mentioned Nigel Lapp with broken ribs, and 260 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,540 Speaker 4: then it's like, oh, we've given away trade secrets. So 261 00:10:20,780 --> 00:10:23,620 Speaker 4: when it starts to come at your team fabric, this 262 00:10:23,660 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: game's hard enough. When you tear your own apart, that's 263 00:10:25,570 --> 00:10:27,790 Speaker 4: when I know Lee in particular, he was big on that. 264 00:10:28,030 --> 00:10:31,429 Speaker 5: What about the challenges of the younger generation with social media? 265 00:10:31,450 --> 00:10:31,570 Speaker 1: Yeah. 266 00:10:33,550 --> 00:10:36,330 Speaker 4: Honestly, if I could change one thing in society, and 267 00:10:36,510 --> 00:10:37,949 Speaker 4: it's good to hear the government are trying to make 268 00:10:37,970 --> 00:10:41,860 Speaker 4: some regulations around this. I reckon you should have identity 269 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,090 Speaker 4: for your social profile. You know, have accountability to your 270 00:10:45,130 --> 00:10:48,270 Speaker 4: social profile. You can't be, you know, sexy legs and 271 00:10:48,270 --> 00:10:51,610 Speaker 4: 69 and send you a message. I think accountability because 272 00:10:51,710 --> 00:10:53,150 Speaker 4: it's really bad. 273 00:10:53,490 --> 00:10:54,190 Speaker 5: Trolling stops. 274 00:10:54,270 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 8: People have to put their name to it, right? 275 00:10:56,620 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 2: Everyone's blue ticks. 276 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 6: Show your licence. 277 00:10:59,100 --> 00:11:02,220 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have your licence and whatever attached to you. 278 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 4: And if you want to make a comment, then you're 279 00:11:03,700 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: accountable to that. But I think it's really bad. Like 280 00:11:07,140 --> 00:11:09,470 Speaker 4: some of the stuff that I know personally that I've received, 281 00:11:09,490 --> 00:11:12,130 Speaker 4: you know, death threats and all this other stuff, you go, oh, man, 282 00:11:12,150 --> 00:11:14,290 Speaker 4: what's going on here? This is not well. And I 283 00:11:14,309 --> 00:11:17,620 Speaker 4: know a lot of our players in particular have had to, 284 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,859 Speaker 4: you know, completely shut out because it's really started to 285 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: affect their life personally. 286 00:11:22,420 --> 00:11:24,219 Speaker 6: Sexy legs at 69. I wish I had done that. 287 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 5: He missed out. Sorry. 288 00:11:28,620 --> 00:11:30,569 Speaker 2: You went with big booty brown at hotmail.com. 289 00:11:30,610 --> 00:11:32,150 Speaker 5: Sorry. Hey, Fly. 290 00:11:32,170 --> 00:11:33,530 Speaker 4: You know we all had one of those back in 291 00:11:33,550 --> 00:11:34,190 Speaker 4: the winter. 292 00:11:34,250 --> 00:11:36,410 Speaker 2: I've still got a Hotmail account. What was your first 293 00:11:36,470 --> 00:11:37,030 Speaker 2: Hotmail address? 294 00:11:37,050 --> 00:11:37,530 Speaker 5: Can you remember? 295 00:11:37,809 --> 00:11:39,350 Speaker 4: No, it definitely wasn't sexy. 296 00:11:39,510 --> 00:11:42,100 Speaker 5: I legit still use a Hotmail account. People giggle at me. 297 00:11:42,130 --> 00:11:42,470 Speaker 1: What is it? 298 00:11:42,929 --> 00:11:45,290 Speaker 8: Oh, it's cam underscore brown 51 at hotmail.com. 299 00:11:45,370 --> 00:11:46,210 Speaker 5: That's what I had at school. 300 00:11:46,470 --> 00:11:49,420 Speaker 7: Hey, Fly, you've been the best team in the competition 301 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,780 Speaker 7: for the last couple of years at winning close games. 302 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: Yes. 303 00:11:52,540 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 8: Some people say it's luck, but it's not when you 304 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:55,430 Speaker 8: do it. 305 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,739 Speaker 5: So consistently. 306 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,660 Speaker 7: Well, and even this year, you know, two draws and 307 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,660 Speaker 7: you come from behind, win against North, you beat Adelaide, 308 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 7: you beat Carlton, you continued to win those close games. 309 00:12:04,620 --> 00:12:06,850 Speaker 7: Now as a coach, you probably prefer not to be 310 00:12:06,870 --> 00:12:09,189 Speaker 7: in a close game, but how do you get it 311 00:12:09,210 --> 00:12:09,830 Speaker 7: done all the time? 312 00:12:09,910 --> 00:12:11,830 Speaker 4: Yeah, I learned some good lessons this year about what 313 00:12:11,850 --> 00:12:15,350 Speaker 4: do you reward? Like we were 54 points down and 314 00:12:15,690 --> 00:12:18,890 Speaker 4: came back and it was just unbelievable. And I challenged 315 00:12:19,170 --> 00:12:21,370 Speaker 4: why we're in this position more than the reward, the behaviour, 316 00:12:21,390 --> 00:12:25,850 Speaker 4: and I won't do that again. We drew a game 317 00:12:26,110 --> 00:12:29,550 Speaker 4: against Fremantle and I thought our effort and our want 318 00:12:29,590 --> 00:12:31,930 Speaker 4: and fight was there, so I rewarded effort. How do 319 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: we keep doing it? There's definitely a method to it. 320 00:12:34,510 --> 00:12:37,660 Speaker 4: You train it all the time, don't you? Yeah, we do. 321 00:12:37,740 --> 00:12:39,380 Speaker 4: I think it's easier to come from behind than it 322 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,460 Speaker 4: is to hold leads. I think that's reality. The modern 323 00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:44,260 Speaker 4: game is very difficult to hold a lead. You look 324 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 4: at Sydney just last weekend. 325 00:12:45,580 --> 00:12:48,219 Speaker 5: Is it because of the rules? The AFL have encouraged... 326 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 5: high-flow games? No, I think we take more risk. You just, like, 327 00:12:53,260 --> 00:12:55,820 Speaker 5: if I can only refer to ourselves, we're four goals down. 328 00:12:56,140 --> 00:12:58,569 Speaker 5: I'd rather lose by 10. Let's just go. 329 00:12:58,590 --> 00:13:01,849 Speaker 7: Like Sydney's last quarter against GWS. They just spat forward 330 00:13:01,870 --> 00:13:02,589 Speaker 7: and rolled the dice. 331 00:13:02,650 --> 00:13:04,849 Speaker 4: And then particularly if you've got a home crowd, that 332 00:13:04,910 --> 00:13:07,510 Speaker 4: momentum is like, you watch the players, they grow in 333 00:13:07,530 --> 00:13:09,980 Speaker 4: an extra league. So momentum's a big thing in footy. 334 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 4: I'd love to know how to hold it, that four-goal 335 00:13:13,020 --> 00:13:14,980 Speaker 4: lead more, and we're going to work over the pre-season, 336 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:20,190 Speaker 4: potentially trying some stuff. But when you're behind, it's, yeah, 337 00:13:20,290 --> 00:13:22,010 Speaker 4: against Brisbane, that was one of our better points for 338 00:13:22,030 --> 00:13:22,310 Speaker 4: the year. 339 00:13:22,330 --> 00:13:22,930 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was amazing. 340 00:13:22,970 --> 00:13:24,929 Speaker 4: Yeah, kicking three goals in four minutes, whatever it was. 341 00:13:24,990 --> 00:13:26,109 Speaker 4: So those things are exciting. 342 00:13:26,150 --> 00:13:27,970 Speaker 7: You've got to stay, sorry, Tino, you've got to stay 343 00:13:28,010 --> 00:13:30,630 Speaker 7: calm in big moments. And I think a lot of 344 00:13:30,750 --> 00:13:33,849 Speaker 7: the Collingwood players do that. They know what's going on 345 00:13:33,890 --> 00:13:35,790 Speaker 7: around them and what they are required to do. Is 346 00:13:35,850 --> 00:13:38,849 Speaker 7: that something that a mindfulness coach or psychologist works with? 347 00:13:38,950 --> 00:13:41,530 Speaker 4: No, we're just present to the moment. We talk about 348 00:13:41,550 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 4: just being present, you know, manage this moment really well. 349 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: We were talking about 120 minutes of the game. We 350 00:13:46,620 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 4: want to manage the seconds. We got to that point 351 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,900 Speaker 4: in the last couple of years. I noticed you said 352 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,020 Speaker 4: we'd lost the aura, Bernie, halfway through the year. 353 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:53,740 Speaker 2: You're a son of a bitch. 354 00:13:53,780 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 6: Come on, mate. 355 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: You can't be saying that. 356 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,540 Speaker 6: That's your friend. I lost a close game. 357 00:13:56,590 --> 00:13:57,110 Speaker 5: Say sorry. 358 00:13:57,300 --> 00:13:57,930 Speaker 4: One close game. 359 00:13:57,950 --> 00:13:58,770 Speaker 2: Apologise. 360 00:13:58,950 --> 00:14:01,790 Speaker 5: Well, I get criticised if I go too easy on 361 00:14:01,830 --> 00:14:02,210 Speaker 5: me boys. 362 00:14:02,230 --> 00:14:03,430 Speaker 6: So I've got to be serious. 363 00:14:04,070 --> 00:14:05,569 Speaker 5: I've got to be seen to be balanced and every 364 00:14:05,650 --> 00:14:08,730 Speaker 5: now and again I've got to go that far, too 365 00:14:08,790 --> 00:14:11,150 Speaker 5: far that way just to balance everyone and go, oh, 366 00:14:11,170 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 5: he's not favouring me because I've got four teammates. 367 00:14:12,740 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 6: Why are you looking to fly? 368 00:14:13,580 --> 00:14:14,819 Speaker 2: Why are you looking to fly? 369 00:14:14,860 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 4: He wouldn't look me in the eye if he said that. 370 00:14:16,580 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: We had lunch the day before and then he goes 371 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:19,910 Speaker 4: on the next night, oh, we've lost his oar. I go, no, 372 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 4: here we go. 373 00:14:21,220 --> 00:14:21,820 Speaker 2: Come on, man. 374 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,500 Speaker 5: I thought someone's going to take a photo of me 375 00:14:23,540 --> 00:14:27,730 Speaker 5: having lunch and fly. But I've got four coaches, four teammates. 376 00:14:28,260 --> 00:14:30,270 Speaker 5: As AFL coach, which is pretty extraordinary. 377 00:14:30,350 --> 00:14:33,190 Speaker 4: Who's your favourite? Don't say it. Be careful. 378 00:14:33,230 --> 00:14:38,090 Speaker 5: Well, the reigning premiership coach. Yes. But who's the hardest 379 00:14:38,470 --> 00:14:40,860 Speaker 5: to coach against? I know you won't answer this, but 380 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 5: who's your best record against? 381 00:14:42,740 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: Oh, maybe Carlton, I think. 382 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 6: Maybe Carlton, yeah. Oh, yes, you've had some big games. 383 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 4: Those Carlton games have been amazing. And this time last year, 384 00:14:52,420 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 4: we were both heading into prelims, Carlton up the Gabba and... 385 00:14:55,950 --> 00:14:58,970 Speaker 4: and us down here in Melbourne. And Fosse and I 386 00:14:58,990 --> 00:15:01,210 Speaker 4: spoke to each other, and we go, imagine if we 387 00:15:01,270 --> 00:15:04,270 Speaker 4: both win. Melbourne will go nuts in terms of Carver 388 00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:07,550 Speaker 4: Connelly Grand Final. But we've had some incredible battles this 389 00:15:07,590 --> 00:15:11,010 Speaker 4: year and last year and the year before. We just 390 00:15:11,050 --> 00:15:13,050 Speaker 4: match up really well against each other, and we've been 391 00:15:13,070 --> 00:15:13,610 Speaker 4: lucky enough to get through. 392 00:15:13,630 --> 00:15:16,500 Speaker 7: If you were sitting in a cafe and a carjacking 393 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 7: flipped up in front of you, would you take off 394 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 7: after that? 395 00:15:19,580 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 5: Good question. 396 00:15:20,700 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: I won my last fight by 150 metres running. 397 00:15:22,460 --> 00:15:23,420 Speaker 5: The other way. 398 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: Fly, is the feeling of a close win as a 399 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,540 Speaker 3: coach better than it was as a player or the same? 400 00:15:31,260 --> 00:15:35,300 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I don't recall having this many close games. 401 00:15:35,340 --> 00:15:39,130 Speaker 4: We won 19 of our games decided by under a 402 00:15:39,150 --> 00:15:40,970 Speaker 4: goal in the last 18 months. 403 00:15:40,990 --> 00:15:41,370 Speaker 6: Crazy stuff. 404 00:15:41,690 --> 00:15:45,770 Speaker 4: Amazing. Some of those wins, jeez, you feel so energised 405 00:15:45,810 --> 00:15:48,450 Speaker 4: for them. Yeah, even just personally that Brisbane game was 406 00:15:48,470 --> 00:15:51,859 Speaker 4: a remarkable win. So I've got to say the coaching, yeah. 407 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,710 Speaker 3: And since the 6-6-6, it feels like big leads are 408 00:15:54,790 --> 00:15:57,750 Speaker 3: gettable now. Like you can get back from 40 points. 409 00:15:57,910 --> 00:15:58,250 Speaker 6: They are. 410 00:15:58,270 --> 00:15:58,790 Speaker 2: Do you feel that? 411 00:15:58,970 --> 00:16:01,530 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. And that's the momentum shift that, 412 00:16:02,210 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 4: you know, you've got to go back to a central 413 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 4: position where everybody's, you know, you can't flood back. So, 414 00:16:08,140 --> 00:16:11,550 Speaker 4: you know, incentive bounces can be such a weapon now. Yeah, 415 00:16:11,570 --> 00:16:12,030 Speaker 4: hard to stop. 416 00:16:12,130 --> 00:16:14,820 Speaker 8: We're seeing more coaches coaching from the boundary now. 417 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 7: Is that an advantage or I know you sort of 418 00:16:18,580 --> 00:16:19,370 Speaker 7: do a little bit of both? 419 00:16:20,050 --> 00:16:22,610 Speaker 4: I think the boundary for me is the intimate distance 420 00:16:22,990 --> 00:16:25,470 Speaker 4: connection straight away like I've got Pendles next to me 421 00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 4: and he's about to go on Pendles make that happen 422 00:16:27,780 --> 00:16:30,500 Speaker 4: do that whatever he's asking me questions and you can 423 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,940 Speaker 4: action it from the box you're through a phone and 424 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,580 Speaker 4: hoping to get some you don't see eye contact you 425 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: don't see tone you don't see energy. 426 00:16:37,220 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 5: You must have trust in your coaches though you. 427 00:16:39,100 --> 00:16:41,690 Speaker 4: Can't do it down there without that you can't and 428 00:16:41,750 --> 00:16:43,850 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be doing that without the enormous trust of 429 00:16:43,870 --> 00:16:48,890 Speaker 4: Hayden Skipworth and Scott Selwood and Ruffy and Leper with 430 00:16:48,930 --> 00:16:50,570 Speaker 4: his strategy stuff so you've got to have that if 431 00:16:50,590 --> 00:16:53,180 Speaker 4: you don't have that you can't do it but So, yeah, 432 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,359 Speaker 4: we have a lot of strategy before the game, funnily enough, 433 00:16:55,380 --> 00:16:55,940 Speaker 4: that we go to. 434 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,580 Speaker 7: So if you want to look at a holistic approach 435 00:16:58,620 --> 00:17:01,820 Speaker 7: to the game, you'll duck upstairs to do that? 436 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: Funnily enough, I've got vision behind me. 437 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:04,060 Speaker 3: Right. 438 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,419 Speaker 4: And I know my eyes aren't great as what they 439 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 4: used to, but you don't miss too much. You miss 440 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,869 Speaker 4: probably intimacy of the stoppages, which you can go back 441 00:17:11,890 --> 00:17:14,010 Speaker 4: and look at. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you don't miss much. 442 00:17:14,070 --> 00:17:18,369 Speaker 4: And I prefer the contact and the energy and the 443 00:17:18,430 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: go get them and the... Yeah, that's my approach. 444 00:17:21,020 --> 00:17:22,940 Speaker 5: So when you're watching the game, what do you look for? 445 00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:24,780 Speaker 5: Do you look for the flow? Do you look for 446 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 5: the contest? What's your main priority? You're standing on the sideline, 447 00:17:28,660 --> 00:17:30,250 Speaker 5: I guess, as we all go and watch the footy, 448 00:17:30,270 --> 00:17:34,169 Speaker 5: don't we? And everyone watches through a different lens. What 449 00:17:34,190 --> 00:17:36,470 Speaker 5: do you mainly look for? Oh, I look for connection. 450 00:17:37,050 --> 00:17:40,850 Speaker 5: Connection in defence and offence. And later in the year, 451 00:17:40,890 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 5: I felt like we tightened the screws on how we 452 00:17:42,910 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 5: wanted to move. 453 00:17:43,540 --> 00:17:45,380 Speaker 4: The ball, which helped us defend better. 454 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:45,610 Speaker 1: And.... 455 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,540 Speaker 4: We had a couple of moments this year where we strayed. 456 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: I use that language like a strayed cat. Don't stray 457 00:17:53,380 --> 00:17:55,540 Speaker 4: from the plan. If you're going to kick it pointing 458 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 4: that way, kick it that way. Where are you guys 459 00:17:57,700 --> 00:17:59,510 Speaker 4: pointing that way? And then all of a sudden we're 460 00:17:59,550 --> 00:18:02,230 Speaker 4: all over the shop. So I look for those connection pieces. 461 00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:03,610 Speaker 6: Well, Lee was big on that. 462 00:18:05,150 --> 00:18:07,590 Speaker 5: And I could sense, I was a younger fellow coming through, 463 00:18:07,609 --> 00:18:09,490 Speaker 5: and Fly's one of the experienced guys. I could sense 464 00:18:09,510 --> 00:18:12,710 Speaker 5: the frustration with some of the veterans at times when 465 00:18:13,210 --> 00:18:15,690 Speaker 5: we would always, quite often when we'd play at home, 466 00:18:16,030 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 5: the opposition team would train after us at the Gabba. 467 00:18:18,380 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 6: We'd allow them to train. So they'd be standing on 468 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:23,100 Speaker 6: the sidelines the night before a game. 469 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 5: And Lee would practice our kick-out drill in front of 470 00:18:27,420 --> 00:18:30,500 Speaker 5: the opposition team, and the veterans would get shitty. 471 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,850 Speaker 6: You know, like, don't worry about it, boys. Don't worry 472 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,770 Speaker 6: about it. 473 00:18:33,830 --> 00:18:35,750 Speaker 5: If we know what each other are doing, I don't 474 00:18:35,770 --> 00:18:37,070 Speaker 5: care what the opposition knows. 475 00:18:37,130 --> 00:18:39,910 Speaker 3: Fly, I'm glad you just heard his lethal impersonation because 476 00:18:39,950 --> 00:18:41,030 Speaker 3: it's pretty good, man. 477 00:18:41,070 --> 00:18:41,629 Speaker 5: Have you got one? 478 00:18:41,670 --> 00:18:43,790 Speaker 4: No, but can I tell a story about every game 479 00:18:43,810 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: that we play together? He's a 19-year-old kid with his 480 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 4: shaved head. 481 00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 482 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,660 Speaker 4: Hadn't changed much in a long time. We were about 483 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,420 Speaker 4: to run out. He's breathing fire. I used to just 484 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,420 Speaker 4: like having fun. So I'd be cracking jokes and things. 485 00:18:56,940 --> 00:18:58,870 Speaker 4: He grabbed me just before we go through the race. 486 00:18:59,170 --> 00:19:03,950 Speaker 4: Every single game. I mean, my little mate. I won't 487 00:19:03,990 --> 00:19:06,590 Speaker 4: do your voice, but he goes, run and buy me, fly, 488 00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 4: run and buy me. And so this is what I knew. 489 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 4: So I'd get out there, and at the start of 490 00:19:11,460 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 4: the game, you used to come and rough me up, 491 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 4: and my opponent was trying to rough me up. So 492 00:19:15,420 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 4: I'd start on one half-forward flank and run across the 493 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,580 Speaker 4: other side, and as I'm running, my opponent's trying to 494 00:19:21,619 --> 00:19:25,629 Speaker 4: chase me, and then I'd hear this, huh! LAUGHTER He 495 00:19:25,690 --> 00:19:28,709 Speaker 4: dropped the elbow into his ribs every single game. 496 00:19:28,750 --> 00:19:29,330 Speaker 5: How good. 497 00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:30,690 Speaker 4: Every single game. 498 00:19:30,790 --> 00:19:35,130 Speaker 5: Oh, my God. Who did the best lethal impression? Because 499 00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:37,629 Speaker 5: Sam takes great pride in it. So last year he 500 00:19:37,670 --> 00:19:39,150 Speaker 5: walked out as the Logies host. 501 00:19:39,550 --> 00:19:40,129 Speaker 6: This is Peggy. 502 00:19:40,830 --> 00:19:42,030 Speaker 2: Peggy says hi, by the way. 503 00:19:42,190 --> 00:19:44,810 Speaker 6: Yeah. His first two steps, or his first step. 504 00:19:44,650 --> 00:19:47,530 Speaker 5: He did as Lee, he's got an unbelievable Lee Matthews walk. 505 00:19:47,970 --> 00:19:49,669 Speaker 6: This year he went to the next level. 506 00:19:49,690 --> 00:19:49,910 Speaker 8: He walked. 507 00:19:50,300 --> 00:19:53,420 Speaker 5: Out the whole way to the microphone as Lee Matthews 508 00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:56,300 Speaker 5: which a lot of people wouldn't have realised. 509 00:19:56,140 --> 00:20:00,030 Speaker 3: It was just pretty much for me Dynasty teammate to 510 00:20:00,109 --> 00:20:01,430 Speaker 3: do a drinking session. 511 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,030 Speaker 4: With I know not Paki I know Rossi and I 512 00:20:04,050 --> 00:20:07,310 Speaker 4: had some great times and footy trips and we'd nestle 513 00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:08,710 Speaker 4: in and let all the young guys do all the 514 00:20:08,730 --> 00:20:10,590 Speaker 4: crazy stuff and finally we used to run the show 515 00:20:10,650 --> 00:20:12,830 Speaker 4: and so when you got got to run the show 516 00:20:12,970 --> 00:20:14,949 Speaker 4: others had to do all the you know there's consequences 517 00:20:14,970 --> 00:20:16,970 Speaker 4: so bossy and i had some good time but we 518 00:20:17,030 --> 00:20:19,570 Speaker 4: we had a great time in new orleans with brownie 519 00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:23,780 Speaker 4: oh can i tell you nothing's off limits this is 520 00:20:23,859 --> 00:20:27,939 Speaker 4: unbelievable this is this is your life brownie um no 521 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: we were new new orleans and having a good time 522 00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:32,690 Speaker 4: and about three days in we'd get up and I 523 00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:34,810 Speaker 4: said I'd room together, go down, and normally Brownie would 524 00:20:34,830 --> 00:20:36,450 Speaker 4: be at the bar early just to keep it warm 525 00:20:37,050 --> 00:20:40,389 Speaker 4: and make sure the tap's still running. And one day 526 00:20:40,410 --> 00:20:41,910 Speaker 4: he's not there. I'm going, oh, no, we're in trouble. 527 00:20:41,930 --> 00:20:43,889 Speaker 4: Brownie's not at the bar. And so we went and 528 00:20:43,910 --> 00:20:47,460 Speaker 4: got our Subway for breakfast, lunch, and all of a 529 00:20:47,460 --> 00:20:50,060 Speaker 4: sudden out of this big barber shop comes big John Brown, 530 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,250 Speaker 4: him and Tim Donning. I'm going, is that Brownie? And 531 00:20:54,290 --> 00:20:56,150 Speaker 4: what he's done is he's gone to a barber, he's 532 00:20:56,270 --> 00:20:59,970 Speaker 4: shaved his head bald and had the barbell mohawk like 533 00:20:59,990 --> 00:21:01,030 Speaker 4: fall off. 534 00:21:01,050 --> 00:21:02,930 Speaker 5: Do you ever find out that? 535 00:21:03,490 --> 00:21:04,270 Speaker 6: I'll be able to give it. 536 00:21:04,330 --> 00:21:05,370 Speaker 8: I'll be able to find it. 537 00:21:05,450 --> 00:21:07,010 Speaker 6: I'll be able to give it to you. 538 00:21:07,030 --> 00:21:07,850 Speaker 8: It was unbelievable. 539 00:21:07,869 --> 00:21:10,050 Speaker 4: Yeah, you had the mohawk and Tim Nodding had one too? 540 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:12,710 Speaker 6: That's right. Possum got a peroxide blonde one. 541 00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:13,950 Speaker 5: Like Mr. T. 542 00:21:13,970 --> 00:21:14,689 Speaker 4: He looks like Mr. T. 543 00:21:14,770 --> 00:21:17,430 Speaker 6: Mr. T. So that was our footy trip haircut. 544 00:21:17,490 --> 00:21:19,550 Speaker 3: Fly, how do you think your old mate is going 545 00:21:19,609 --> 00:21:20,530 Speaker 3: in the media industry? 546 00:21:20,550 --> 00:21:21,110 Speaker 2: You like his work? 547 00:21:21,710 --> 00:21:24,230 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going well. No, he's going well. 548 00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:24,670 Speaker 6: What is this? 549 00:21:24,770 --> 00:21:28,150 Speaker 2: Some highlights. And I'll just play you a little grab. 550 00:21:28,210 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: Any criticism you have, bring it up. Just have a listen. 551 00:21:30,540 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: I think he's lost his mojo, hasn't he? 552 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 5: And they've really been able to do it with a 553 00:21:33,940 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 5: makeshift forward line. Charles come from the Gold Coast Suns, 554 00:21:36,700 --> 00:21:41,580 Speaker 5: and obviously Jack Gunston has come back from Brisbane. They've 555 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 5: done really well, but they wouldn't... Mate, that wasn't... Good play, Gunston. Mate, 556 00:21:45,820 --> 00:21:46,500 Speaker 5: that wasn't... No, no, no. 557 00:21:46,540 --> 00:21:49,510 Speaker 6: LAUGHTER That was a G. That was a G. 558 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,170 Speaker 5: I've got a distinctive voice. 559 00:21:51,530 --> 00:21:53,970 Speaker 2: Any feedback for that, Brad? 560 00:21:54,090 --> 00:21:55,510 Speaker 4: You said, we've lost our aura. 561 00:21:55,550 --> 00:22:00,250 Speaker 5: That's right, yeah. I'm on the way out. Quickly, this 562 00:22:00,350 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 5: is a podcast. Obviously, some people do listen to it. 563 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 3: Yes, mate. 564 00:22:04,380 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 5: We got career best numbers last week. 565 00:22:05,820 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: We do. 566 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,940 Speaker 5: Career best numbers. You were a pioneer because you were 567 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 5: an actor, I think. Did you and Akra have a 568 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,630 Speaker 5: podcast or one of the first ones? 569 00:22:13,650 --> 00:22:16,030 Speaker 4: Well, it wasn't called a podcast. We actually had a 570 00:22:16,090 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 4: pre-recorded show that went to, yeah, around the country. 571 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:19,379 Speaker 3: What? 572 00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:20,140 Speaker 6: What was it called? 573 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 4: Akra Makka Show. Oh! 574 00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:23,970 Speaker 2: Oh, boy. 575 00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:25,010 Speaker 6: That's amazing. 576 00:22:25,130 --> 00:22:29,490 Speaker 4: On what station? We went through the– no, I'm not 577 00:22:29,530 --> 00:22:30,050 Speaker 4: sure what now. 578 00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:30,980 Speaker 6: Was it Triple M? 579 00:22:31,150 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: No, we ended up there, but it went across mainly Queensland. 580 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,979 Speaker 2: I kill for highlights of. 581 00:22:36,940 --> 00:22:38,100 Speaker 6: The Akramaka show, man. 582 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,420 Speaker 4: Well, there's many highlights. Not many we can put there. 583 00:22:41,619 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 6: Kicked off, eh? 584 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 4: I know I said to him only last year. I said, okay, 585 00:22:44,580 --> 00:22:46,350 Speaker 4: you know it was the Akramaka. You know what? If 586 00:22:46,380 --> 00:22:49,389 Speaker 4: we didn't, it would be the Macaronacca show. He didn't 587 00:22:49,410 --> 00:22:49,709 Speaker 4: like that. 588 00:22:49,950 --> 00:22:51,389 Speaker 2: Mate, thank you so much for coming in. 589 00:22:51,410 --> 00:22:53,669 Speaker 3: We're going to end with 20 questions in 60 seconds. 590 00:22:53,690 --> 00:22:54,290 Speaker 6: Oh, boy, okay. 591 00:22:54,490 --> 00:22:56,290 Speaker 2: And, hey, Beck, you might want to get a tight 592 00:22:56,690 --> 00:22:57,430 Speaker 2: shot on his face. 593 00:22:57,470 --> 00:22:58,830 Speaker 4: That's a lot of pressure. 594 00:22:58,850 --> 00:23:02,050 Speaker 2: Fly, this is serious shit. These questions are going to 595 00:23:02,090 --> 00:23:04,230 Speaker 2: make Ray Martin look like a putz. Do you understand? 596 00:23:04,250 --> 00:23:05,070 Speaker 6: Okay, here we go. 597 00:23:05,390 --> 00:23:07,270 Speaker 2: Quick answers. 598 00:23:07,450 --> 00:23:08,580 Speaker 4: Can I say more than one word? 599 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 600 00:23:09,450 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: But we'll move on real quick. Dogs or cats? 601 00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 6: Cats. 602 00:23:14,980 --> 00:23:15,500 Speaker 2: Beer or wine? 603 00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:17,010 Speaker 4: Both. 604 00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:18,450 Speaker 2: God or science? 605 00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:20,250 Speaker 5: Science. 606 00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:21,570 Speaker 2: Kick or hand pass? 607 00:23:22,150 --> 00:23:22,350 Speaker 1: Kick. 608 00:23:22,369 --> 00:23:24,210 Speaker 2: I'm going to turn your mic up so it sounds 609 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:29,100 Speaker 2: more dramatic. Who's most likely to say a smart-ass comment 610 00:23:29,140 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: at a team meeting? 611 00:23:30,780 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 4: Steel side bottle. 612 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:32,860 Speaker 6: Yes. 613 00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:35,379 Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about disabling that stupid annoying camera 614 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,260 Speaker 3: in the coach's box? 615 00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 4: Yes. 616 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: If you could bring one person back from the dead, 617 00:23:40,270 --> 00:23:40,649 Speaker 2: who would it be? 618 00:23:41,540 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 4: Muhammad Ali. 619 00:23:45,500 --> 00:23:45,850 Speaker 5: Oh, yes. 620 00:23:45,980 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: If you could choose between another flag or keeping a 621 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,570 Speaker 3: big toe, which would you choose? 622 00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:50,590 Speaker 6: A flag. 623 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,910 Speaker 2: Same question, but with a single testicle. 624 00:23:52,990 --> 00:24:02,010 Speaker 4: I'll keep the testicle. 625 00:24:02,109 --> 00:24:04,590 Speaker 2: Who's the coolest celebrity Collingwood fan you've ever met? 626 00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:05,530 Speaker 4: Oh. 627 00:24:06,530 --> 00:24:06,990 Speaker 6: Rob Lowe. 628 00:24:07,290 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 4: Oh. She's... No, I'm going to pass on that. 629 00:24:11,740 --> 00:24:12,780 Speaker 2: Do you have a good singing voice? 630 00:24:13,180 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 6: No. 631 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 3: When you're alone in the car with your dog shit 632 00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 3: singing voice, what band do you like to sing to? 633 00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:19,500 Speaker 4: Chili Peppers. 634 00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:24,580 Speaker 2: Yes. Do acts of breathtaking kindness make you cry? 635 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 5: Yes. 636 00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:27,699 Speaker 3: If you had a dream where you and your partner 637 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: were actual magpies and you had a magpie baby but 638 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,300 Speaker 3: the head of it had a human head. 639 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 2: And it was Eddie McGuire, would you tell your therapist? 640 00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:38,140 Speaker 4: LAUGHTER Yes. 641 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,740 Speaker 2: Do you know what a nipple cripple is? 642 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,020 Speaker 1: Yes. 643 00:24:42,660 --> 00:24:44,500 Speaker 2: Is it true that you once gave the Prime Minister 644 00:24:44,580 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: a nipple cripple? 645 00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:45,580 Speaker 1: No. 646 00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:47,220 Speaker 2: Do you take care of your nipples? 647 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 6: Yes. 648 00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:51,410 Speaker 3: What dirty drive-through do you eat alone in your car, 649 00:24:51,470 --> 00:24:53,170 Speaker 3: secretly away from your family? 650 00:24:53,369 --> 00:24:56,010 Speaker 4: Lots of Macca's ice creams on the way home. 651 00:24:56,570 --> 00:24:57,390 Speaker 6: Sunday operator. 652 00:24:57,770 --> 00:24:59,890 Speaker 2: Ever legally done magic mushrooms? 653 00:25:00,270 --> 00:25:00,470 Speaker 1: No. 654 00:25:01,980 --> 00:25:07,090 Speaker 3: Do you want to illegally do magic mushrooms? 655 00:25:07,109 --> 00:25:09,030 Speaker 2: Final question. Favourite Spice Girl? 656 00:25:11,180 --> 00:25:11,620 Speaker 6: Sporty. 657 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:11,940 Speaker 5: Yeah. 658 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,660 Speaker 6: There you go, mate. 659 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,020 Speaker 5: He's posh every day of the week. 660 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 4: Well answered. 661 00:25:15,619 --> 00:25:17,659 Speaker 2: Flyer, man, we love this so much. Thank you for 662 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:18,030 Speaker 2: coming in. 663 00:25:18,220 --> 00:25:18,700 Speaker 6: Thank you, mate. 664 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,330 Speaker 4: Thanks, guys. 665 00:25:19,369 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: Back in a second. Welcome back to Browdy's Podcast, man. 666 00:25:22,830 --> 00:25:24,150 Speaker 2: I just love that guy, Flyers. 667 00:25:24,190 --> 00:25:24,830 Speaker 6: He's the best. 668 00:25:24,850 --> 00:25:26,690 Speaker 3: He just makes you feel relaxed or something, John. 669 00:25:26,869 --> 00:25:28,310 Speaker 6: He does. He's an amazing man. 670 00:25:28,350 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 5: I can't wait. We always catch up on the Sunday after... 671 00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:34,190 Speaker 5: the grand final, the premiership boys. And the great thing 672 00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:37,050 Speaker 5: about playing in premierships is that you don't see the 673 00:25:37,090 --> 00:25:39,189 Speaker 5: boys much. You know, we all go on and we 674 00:25:39,210 --> 00:25:43,130 Speaker 5: lead our different lives, but the premierships are the glue that. 675 00:25:43,090 --> 00:25:43,690 Speaker 6: Ties you together. 676 00:25:43,710 --> 00:25:46,050 Speaker 5: They bind you, don't they? And you're like brothers, you know, 677 00:25:46,270 --> 00:25:48,290 Speaker 5: and you sort of come together and have a beer. 678 00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:49,650 Speaker 5: So I can't wait to see him on the Sunday 679 00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:53,290 Speaker 5: after the grand final. He's a great team man. I'm 680 00:25:53,310 --> 00:25:56,820 Speaker 5: always reluctant to get too much into the team-building stories 681 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 5: and the Mad Monday stories and the footy trip stories, 682 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 5: but in terms of a positive, he was our social coordinator. Yep. 683 00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 6: He was our glue. 684 00:26:04,380 --> 00:26:04,820 Speaker 1: Really? 685 00:26:04,940 --> 00:26:07,139 Speaker 6: Oh, he was. He organised all the things. 686 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:07,230 Speaker 1: Yes. 687 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 5: So it's no surprise to me that he has a 688 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 5: team that's so connected. 689 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: Yep. 690 00:26:12,020 --> 00:26:14,620 Speaker 6: And obviously they won the premiership last year, so that's him. 691 00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:15,460 Speaker 6: He lives that. Yep. 692 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:15,660 Speaker 5: Don? 693 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:19,419 Speaker 8: Big game this weekend. Big game tonight. You're about to 694 00:26:19,460 --> 00:26:20,139 Speaker 8: fly to Adelaide. 695 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 6: I'm about to fly to Adelaide. 696 00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:23,570 Speaker 5: Can't wait, actually, because I'm expecting... Your response from Port. 697 00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:26,190 Speaker 5: I'm expecting a response. I think most of the footy 698 00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:28,970 Speaker 5: community thinks Hawthorne will just go over and roll over them. 699 00:26:29,530 --> 00:26:32,139 Speaker 5: But you expect a response, don't you? That's the general consensus. 700 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,980 Speaker 8: And Kenny Hinkley over the journey, they've had bad losses. 701 00:26:35,140 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: Yep. 702 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,780 Speaker 8: And they've come out a galvanised group. 703 00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: Yep. 704 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 8: And won. 705 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 5: So. 706 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,450 Speaker 7: Semi-finals, you know, over there, there's going to be a 707 00:26:43,550 --> 00:26:46,850 Speaker 7: lot of pressure on Port Adelaide to come out snarling, 708 00:26:46,890 --> 00:26:49,870 Speaker 7: and I think they will. I don't think that they 709 00:26:50,270 --> 00:26:51,890 Speaker 7: are good enough to beat the Hawks. If the Hawks 710 00:26:51,930 --> 00:26:54,190 Speaker 7: play at any sort of level like they've been playing 711 00:26:54,210 --> 00:26:55,550 Speaker 7: the last six weeks, they should win. 712 00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:55,970 Speaker 2: But. 713 00:26:56,530 --> 00:26:56,730 Speaker 5: But. 714 00:26:57,510 --> 00:27:01,500 Speaker 7: Jack Inovan's comments, you know, or his response to Brodie 715 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 7: Grundy's message, see you in 14 days. If you're Ken Hinckley, 716 00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 7: you're using that as motivation. 717 00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:08,380 Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah, I think so. 718 00:27:08,540 --> 00:27:08,780 Speaker 4: No doubt. 719 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 5: And I think Kenny plays on the emotions. He's a 720 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,330 Speaker 5: fire and brimstone coach. I remember watching Kenny as a 721 00:27:14,350 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 5: young fellow when he was coaching Camp Nou. and more 722 00:27:16,820 --> 00:27:19,939 Speaker 5: like going to his quarter-time and three-quarter-time address. And he 723 00:27:19,980 --> 00:27:22,770 Speaker 5: was firing Brimstone, and that's what you love. And I 724 00:27:22,790 --> 00:27:25,290 Speaker 5: think this is the time that you pull that ripcord. 725 00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:27,310 Speaker 5: You know, you go for the emotion, and you get 726 00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:29,429 Speaker 5: the boys charged up, and you use the energy of 727 00:27:29,470 --> 00:27:29,869 Speaker 5: the crowd. 728 00:27:29,869 --> 00:27:31,629 Speaker 2: $ 50, 000. 729 00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:32,470 Speaker 6: At Adelaide Oval, it'll be magnificent. 730 00:27:32,490 --> 00:27:34,450 Speaker 8: Do you test out Butters' ribs? 731 00:27:34,550 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 6: Absolutely. Absolutely. Without a shadow of a doubt. You test 732 00:27:38,260 --> 00:27:39,780 Speaker 6: him early, and you challenge him. 733 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,899 Speaker 5: Because knowing full well, Zach Butters goes into this game 734 00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:44,740 Speaker 5: with a shitload of anxiety. 735 00:27:45,020 --> 00:27:45,780 Speaker 6: He's a tough prick. 736 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,070 Speaker 5: But there's a lot of anxiety because he knows that 737 00:27:49,109 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 5: he is now committed. Who didn't? So it's like the 738 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 5: jet that's on the runway that gets past the... Point 739 00:27:54,980 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 5: of no return. Point of no return. 740 00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 8: You're taken off. 741 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:57,419 Speaker 6: You've got to take off. 742 00:27:57,540 --> 00:28:01,330 Speaker 5: And he knows he has to play four quarters no 743 00:28:01,369 --> 00:28:03,490 Speaker 5: matter what. Even if he's got a jumper full of 744 00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:07,709 Speaker 5: broken ribs, he has to play four quarters. Otherwise, reputationally, 745 00:28:08,130 --> 00:28:09,790 Speaker 5: that causes a lot of damage. 746 00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:11,950 Speaker 2: A jumper full of broken ribs. That's a great saying. 747 00:28:11,970 --> 00:28:14,100 Speaker 3: Who did Kenny leave off the bench, leave on the 748 00:28:14,140 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 3: bench for like seven minutes last night? 749 00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:17,700 Speaker 5: The great Horn Francis. What's all that about, Kenny? 750 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 6: Horn Francis starts. Now, Broads, You've embarrassed yourself last week. 751 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 5: You did, bro. You're an allegiance supporter. You've embarrassed yourself 752 00:28:25,330 --> 00:28:27,510 Speaker 5: further again by wearing an old woolen jumper. You didn't 753 00:28:27,530 --> 00:28:30,370 Speaker 5: even watch it. What do you expect from Horne Francis? 754 00:28:30,410 --> 00:28:31,510 Speaker 5: Does he start on the ground? 755 00:28:31,609 --> 00:28:33,310 Speaker 6: Because that was a miss by Kenny last week. 756 00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:33,950 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 757 00:28:34,010 --> 00:28:35,570 Speaker 1: And to channel that and to get us across the 758 00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:37,189 Speaker 1: line tonight, I've worn the prison bars because I think 759 00:28:37,210 --> 00:28:38,070 Speaker 1: we need to go old school. 760 00:28:38,170 --> 00:28:39,350 Speaker 2: That's Mareno wool, brother. 761 00:28:39,390 --> 00:28:41,450 Speaker 1: I think we need to go man on man. play 762 00:28:41,610 --> 00:28:44,170 Speaker 1: old school football and be hard and be hard at 763 00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:45,730 Speaker 1: the footy. And you know what? If they're going out 764 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,470 Speaker 1: to butters, send someone who's, you know, hard as a 765 00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: cat's head, send Drew, send wines, send them to their opposition. 766 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:52,980 Speaker 2: Go, you know what? 767 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,860 Speaker 1: If you want to play like that, Charlie Dixon was 768 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: absolutely hopeless last week. The man's six foot seven and 769 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,460 Speaker 1: 115 kilos. Send the man out there to take out 770 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,900 Speaker 1: a body and say, you know what? If you're going 771 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: to do it, we're going to do it too. And 772 00:29:04,140 --> 00:29:05,090 Speaker 1: he's the best person to do it. 773 00:29:05,220 --> 00:29:07,010 Speaker 3: Fix your collar. I just want to, it's my OCD 774 00:29:07,050 --> 00:29:09,510 Speaker 3: is killing me. Do you know where these Merino wall jumpers. 775 00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:10,570 Speaker 2: Moths eat them? 776 00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:12,550 Speaker 6: Do they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Be careful. 777 00:29:12,790 --> 00:29:15,190 Speaker 1: I put this in my suit, my suit bag. I 778 00:29:15,210 --> 00:29:17,010 Speaker 1: put this in the suit bag because it's so valuable. 779 00:29:17,030 --> 00:29:17,370 Speaker 2: Look at it. 780 00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:18,210 Speaker 4: How stunning is it? 781 00:29:18,210 --> 00:29:21,290 Speaker 7: Oh, I think Charlie Dixon will respond. I mean, he's 782 00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 7: a proud guy. He's played well in big finals before 783 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,740 Speaker 7: for Port Adelaide. And with no Sam Frost, who the 784 00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:29,940 Speaker 7: Hawks have been going beautifully, and everyone's talking about everyone 785 00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 7: except Sam Frost. 786 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,530 Speaker 5: He's been rock solid back there all year. 787 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,170 Speaker 2: All year. 788 00:29:34,590 --> 00:29:36,209 Speaker 8: Now young Jai Sarong comes in. 789 00:29:36,730 --> 00:29:38,469 Speaker 5: Big ask in a big final. 790 00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:40,300 Speaker 6: What do you expect, Sam? dog? 791 00:29:40,780 --> 00:29:43,900 Speaker 7: Take your Hawthorne colours off for a second. I'm just 792 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,290 Speaker 7: expecting Sammy Mitchell won't change anything. A thing about the 793 00:29:47,330 --> 00:29:48,990 Speaker 7: way that they've prepared or the way they want to 794 00:29:50,010 --> 00:29:53,090 Speaker 7: transition the ball, he'll encourage them to take the game on, run, carry, 795 00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 7: keep it in motion, be hard. Maybe Weddle has to 796 00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 7: go back and play a key position, which will take 797 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 7: away a little bit of their run and carry. But 798 00:30:02,620 --> 00:30:05,460 Speaker 7: if they play at the level they played last week 799 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,020 Speaker 7: against the Doggies, they beat Port. 800 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: Yep. 801 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 8: That's as simple as that. 802 00:30:08,810 --> 00:30:10,390 Speaker 2: Minimum, it's got to be a good game for the 803 00:30:10,450 --> 00:30:11,610 Speaker 2: reason we just discussed. 804 00:30:11,730 --> 00:30:13,350 Speaker 6: Who's your favourite player for Hawthorne? 805 00:30:13,970 --> 00:30:14,070 Speaker 1: Um. 806 00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:16,150 Speaker 5: Probably Connor McDonald. 807 00:30:16,510 --> 00:30:17,830 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a star, isn't he? 808 00:30:17,890 --> 00:30:20,110 Speaker 7: He is, and he's been underrated this year. He's hitting 809 00:30:20,130 --> 00:30:23,190 Speaker 7: the scoreboard. He gets up high, uses the footy well. 810 00:30:23,570 --> 00:30:24,070 Speaker 5: He's hard. 811 00:30:24,110 --> 00:30:27,270 Speaker 7: He's a bit of an energiser bunny as well, like 812 00:30:27,310 --> 00:30:31,190 Speaker 7: Wizard and like Kinevan. Yeah, really, really like him, and 813 00:30:31,210 --> 00:30:32,490 Speaker 7: he's only 21 years of age. 814 00:30:32,620 --> 00:30:35,340 Speaker 2: Remind me who the winner plays in the prelim. Which 815 00:30:35,380 --> 00:30:35,860 Speaker 2: side is it? 816 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 5: Sydney. 817 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:37,060 Speaker 1: Shit. 818 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:38,140 Speaker 5: Next Friday night. 819 00:30:38,460 --> 00:30:38,860 Speaker 6: Jesus. 820 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: Now, John, it feels like your boys could be underdogs. Yeah. 821 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,300 Speaker 5: They are underdogs, I think, if you look at the 822 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:50,020 Speaker 5: betting market. But I think these two teams' best is 823 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,020 Speaker 5: the best in the competition. So it could be an 824 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,180 Speaker 5: absolute belter. If both teams come to play, no doubt 825 00:30:55,220 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 5: about it. So I think they're the two, in terms 826 00:30:58,530 --> 00:31:02,070 Speaker 5: of real form, the two form teams in the second 827 00:31:02,090 --> 00:31:05,070 Speaker 5: half of the season. And obviously, they had their losses 828 00:31:05,130 --> 00:31:06,850 Speaker 5: along the way and they have their bad quarters. But 829 00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:09,330 Speaker 5: It could be an absolute beauty. I think the challenge 830 00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:12,190 Speaker 5: will be for Brisbane. If Jack Payne doesn't come up, 831 00:31:13,070 --> 00:31:16,290 Speaker 5: who's going to cope with Jesse Hogan? And Toby Green 832 00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:18,810 Speaker 5: you'd expect a response to. He was very quiet last week. 833 00:31:18,830 --> 00:31:22,450 Speaker 5: So I think the key to Brisbane will be those 834 00:31:22,490 --> 00:31:24,530 Speaker 5: two match-ups, especially if they can just qual-win. 835 00:31:24,810 --> 00:31:27,890 Speaker 7: I think the big advantage that Brisbane have over GWS, 836 00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:31,930 Speaker 7: the GWS-Sydney game was brutal from the start till the end. 837 00:31:31,950 --> 00:31:32,630 Speaker 2: The best. 838 00:31:32,830 --> 00:31:35,570 Speaker 7: Whereas Brisbane had the luxury almost to put the cue 839 00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:37,860 Speaker 7: in the rack In the second half, and people say, oh, 840 00:31:37,890 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 7: Carlton played better. 841 00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:39,940 Speaker 5: It was a live kill. 842 00:31:40,140 --> 00:31:40,820 Speaker 6: It was a live kill. 843 00:31:40,860 --> 00:31:44,460 Speaker 8: They got him early, and then they managed some players' time. 844 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 7: They took the foot off the pedal. They got through 845 00:31:46,060 --> 00:31:49,380 Speaker 7: relatively unscathed except for Payne. That could be quite telling 846 00:31:49,910 --> 00:31:50,450 Speaker 7: this week. 847 00:31:50,970 --> 00:31:53,390 Speaker 3: Are you flying to Sydney as well this weekend? 848 00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:55,190 Speaker 6: No, I'm going to go. home for the weekend, then 849 00:31:55,210 --> 00:31:56,410 Speaker 6: I'm going to come back for a fortnight. 850 00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:59,310 Speaker 8: Oh, he's back in town for two weeks, baby. 851 00:31:59,330 --> 00:32:00,510 Speaker 2: You know what that means? 852 00:32:00,530 --> 00:32:01,310 Speaker 5: Drinking session. 853 00:32:01,350 --> 00:32:02,190 Speaker 6: Family-less. 854 00:32:02,210 --> 00:32:02,670 Speaker 2: Family-less. 855 00:32:02,730 --> 00:32:05,210 Speaker 3: Do you know how many bottles of Johnny Blue he has? 856 00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:06,730 Speaker 3: Because people pay him in Johnny Blue. 857 00:32:06,830 --> 00:32:07,210 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. 858 00:32:07,230 --> 00:32:08,410 Speaker 2: And I know where he hides them, dog. 859 00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:08,780 Speaker 1: Really? 860 00:32:08,910 --> 00:32:09,150 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. 861 00:32:09,170 --> 00:32:09,950 Speaker 5: He's got the stash. 862 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:10,450 Speaker 4: Oh, yes. 863 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:12,140 Speaker 6: There's not much of that bottle left. 864 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,140 Speaker 5: Are you getting called up at all this weekend? 865 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:14,850 Speaker 6: No, I won't be. 866 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 8: I've got the VFL preliminary finals tomorrow. 867 00:32:18,620 --> 00:32:22,700 Speaker 7: And that's... Yeah, interesting because Southport. 868 00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:23,260 Speaker 6: Are playing Footscray. 869 00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: Son of a bitch. 870 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 7: And Brisbane are playing Werribee. So if both Queensland sides win, 871 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 7: the grand final is. 872 00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 5: Going to be up in Brisbane. 873 00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:33,900 Speaker 7: It's the VFL grand final, but it won't be in Icon. 874 00:32:33,980 --> 00:32:34,740 Speaker 5: It'll be in Brisbane. 875 00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:37,090 Speaker 6: It's never been done before. Well, it's not far away 876 00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:38,850 Speaker 6: until the AFL Reserve starts. 877 00:32:39,810 --> 00:32:41,850 Speaker 5: Great weekend of footy. I love this weekend of footy. 878 00:32:41,870 --> 00:32:43,130 Speaker 5: There's always surprises. 879 00:32:43,490 --> 00:32:45,610 Speaker 2: Hey, ads back in a second. I've got some audio 880 00:32:45,630 --> 00:32:48,220 Speaker 2: to play. Welcome back to Brownies Podcast. 881 00:32:48,260 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: Follow us on TikTok at Brownies Podcast, on Instagram at 882 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,660 Speaker 3: Brownies Podcast. Now, I want to apologise to you. I've 883 00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:56,450 Speaker 3: made a lot of fun of you just making a 884 00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:57,910 Speaker 3: verbal mistake. 885 00:32:57,950 --> 00:32:58,990 Speaker 6: Yeah, verbal diarrhoea. 886 00:32:59,170 --> 00:33:00,469 Speaker 2: The whole Gunston thing was too much. 887 00:33:00,510 --> 00:33:02,650 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was one letter. It was one letter. 888 00:33:02,910 --> 00:33:03,390 Speaker 6: And you know what? 889 00:33:03,410 --> 00:33:05,510 Speaker 3: He's not the only person in history that's done that. 890 00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 3: The Carrie Bickmore one was famous. 891 00:33:11,050 --> 00:33:11,970 Speaker 2: You're watching The Project. 892 00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:14,260 Speaker 9: The airline price wars are heating up again and we're 893 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,020 Speaker 9: being told fair discounting is as aggressive as it's ever been. 894 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,860 Speaker 9: Virgin's targeting key corporate routes, hoping to win over Qantas customers. 895 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:23,790 Speaker 2: That was a big one. 896 00:33:23,810 --> 00:33:24,620 Speaker 4: That was a monster. 897 00:33:28,610 --> 00:33:30,990 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, right. It's one of the all-time greats. That 898 00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:31,870 Speaker 2: was years ago, mate. 899 00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 6: I'm starting to get into it. 900 00:33:33,250 --> 00:33:34,710 Speaker 2: It's so good. 901 00:33:34,890 --> 00:33:35,110 Speaker 1: Eddie? 902 00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:36,870 Speaker 2: Eddie's fallible. 903 00:33:37,530 --> 00:33:40,010 Speaker 5: Oh, with the Adam Goodes one? 904 00:33:40,050 --> 00:33:40,630 Speaker 4: No, mate, no. 905 00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:42,510 Speaker 6: Oh, jeez, I was going to say. We're not going 906 00:33:42,530 --> 00:33:43,690 Speaker 6: to go down that route, are we? Come on. 907 00:33:43,970 --> 00:33:46,790 Speaker 2: Eddie is talking to Cain Corns. When Cain used to play. 908 00:33:47,330 --> 00:33:49,650 Speaker 3: And just see if you can pick anything sus here. 909 00:33:49,670 --> 00:33:50,170 Speaker 5: Congratulations. 910 00:33:50,210 --> 00:33:50,890 Speaker 8: Go and have a rub. 911 00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:51,710 Speaker 6: Sing the song. 912 00:33:51,770 --> 00:33:53,670 Speaker 5: Enjoy yourself. All those things, mate. You might have to 913 00:33:53,690 --> 00:33:55,230 Speaker 5: have two rubs being an old Cain Corns. 914 00:34:00,130 --> 00:34:01,250 Speaker 2: Mate, that is straight out. 915 00:34:01,290 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's straight out. 916 00:34:03,230 --> 00:34:05,460 Speaker 8: That's poor Meadows, kind of slipping into the conference. 917 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,820 Speaker 6: He just slipped in there. 918 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,020 Speaker 5: Isn't that gorgeous stuff? 919 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:08,620 Speaker 6: That is magnificent. 920 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,940 Speaker 2: Now we've got another one from America. This is a baseball. 921 00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:14,060 Speaker 2: This is just the poor guy. He gets stuck early 922 00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:15,100 Speaker 2: and there's no way out of it. 923 00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:15,660 Speaker 6: Enjoy. 924 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 2: We can't turn the black cock black. 925 00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:19,300 Speaker 5: We can't turn the clock. 926 00:34:23,140 --> 00:34:23,620 Speaker 6: Very good. 927 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,140 Speaker 2: You can't turn the black cock black. 928 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,430 Speaker 5: You can't turn the clock. He stumbled over. 929 00:34:29,469 --> 00:34:30,989 Speaker 6: Beautiful stuff. Magnificent work, Dana. 930 00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:32,110 Speaker 5: You've got to love Port Adelaide. 931 00:34:32,130 --> 00:34:36,110 Speaker 7: Jason Horne-Francis is doing an interview on the news. 932 00:34:36,250 --> 00:34:37,030 Speaker 5: It was very serious. 933 00:34:37,070 --> 00:34:38,710 Speaker 1: It was all about how we're going to bounce back 934 00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:40,950 Speaker 1: and how the boys are going to lift. 935 00:34:40,770 --> 00:34:41,350 Speaker 4: For this occasion. 936 00:34:41,410 --> 00:34:43,090 Speaker 2: So it was quite a serious interview. 937 00:34:43,430 --> 00:34:54,230 Speaker 7: Supporter drove past and just gave him some advice. They're 938 00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:56,830 Speaker 7: so poor that way. Mate, and that burnout. 939 00:34:56,870 --> 00:34:57,610 Speaker 2: The burnout. 940 00:34:57,630 --> 00:34:58,910 Speaker 5: Quality burnout. 941 00:34:59,030 --> 00:35:01,630 Speaker 2: A bit of drifting up the street. You didn't see 942 00:35:01,650 --> 00:35:04,830 Speaker 2: the smoke. There's smoke emerging in the back of the shop. 943 00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:06,990 Speaker 8: I've never understood why people do that. 944 00:35:07,060 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 7: Like, I despise people that do burnouts or drift or, like, 945 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,790 Speaker 7: go slow and then drive up. 946 00:35:14,820 --> 00:35:15,180 Speaker 5: What the fuck? 947 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,990 Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree. Although, when it is Koshi. 948 00:35:19,210 --> 00:35:22,569 Speaker 5: All right, we're done. 949 00:35:22,690 --> 00:35:23,270 Speaker 8: See you later. 950 00:35:23,310 --> 00:35:23,670 Speaker 5: Enjoy.