1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: On scoring US Australia. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panalty Show. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panicky Show coming 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 3: up tonight. The Prime Minister facing more criticism for that tone. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 3: Dev Beach House purchase why experts are alarmed by Australia's 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: foreign policy being compromised with identity politics. Senator Alex Antique 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: will join me to discuss the latest from the US 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: with Army Horowitz, including black and Hispanic voters walking away 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: from the Democrats, and later in the hour, seventy Bastian 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: will tell us why Chris Mins support where a radical 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 3: policy will be bad news for New South Wales women 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: and we never forget left He's losing it Tonight, Kamala 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: Harris is looking at the stars. 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 4: Look at where the stars are in the sky. Don't 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: look them as just rand of things, if you just 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 4: look at them as points. Look at the constellation. What 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 4: does it show you? So you just outlined it, Roland, 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 4: what does it show you? 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: No idea what she's talking about. But first it's looking 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: grim for the Stephen Miles government if early exit polls 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: are to be believed. Korea Mail reports that an exit 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: poll of one thousand Queensland is conducted by the paper 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: and its sister publications. At early voting, Boots in ten 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: seats showed a soaring primary vote for the LNP and 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: trouble for Labor. The results are a similar to a 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: recent news poll. The exit poll shows that the coalition 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: is sitting on forty eight point two percent primary vote, 28 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: Labour on thirty, Green's on eight point six percent, and 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: one Nation on seven point three. If the data is accurate, 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: then several government ministers will lose their seats. Let's bring 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: in skyn Ish contributor pro mcswayin Proue. It seems crime 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: and cost of living are top issues in Queensland. Can 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: Stephen Miles do anything to convince Queenslanders to give Labor 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: an the term? 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 5: I can't say it happening. I don't think people are 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 5: that stupid. I mean, the man cannot even remember the 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 5: name of some of. 38 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: His aspirants who are working with him. 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 5: The guy has tried to buy votes, He's given away 40 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 5: almost houses to everybody. But you cannot deny that crime, 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 5: the cost of living, the fact that their debt is 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 5: just skyrockt rocketing in that state. It's Anette government, It's 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 5: a lazy government. It's been in power for the best 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 5: part of what thirty years or so, with a slight 45 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 5: hiccup with Campbell Newman. But you know when you look 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 5: at the fact that so many of these seats held 47 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 5: by Labor are just on a knife edge. There's only 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 5: five votes in it or twelve votes in it. And 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 5: all Chris of Filey needs is twelve seats and he'll 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 5: walk it in. And I think he'll do that with 51 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 5: his eyes closed. 52 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: Now Australia's private health insurers are expected to ask the 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: albumy is the government in early November for a hike 54 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: in premiums. Somewhere between five and six percent is being reported. 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: This is with the highest increase pre since twenty sixteen. 56 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 3: It's terrible news for Labor, it's terrible news for Australians. 57 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: Health insurance premiums are already a major burden on household 58 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: budgets and I do wonder, Prue how many will cancel 59 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: or reduce their cover if there is a five or 60 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: six percent hike in their premium. 61 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 5: Already Rita so many have at least if they haven't canceled, 62 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 5: they've changed it so that they're not playing it paying 63 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 5: as much, and when you look at it, most younger 64 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 5: people are dropping it. 65 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: It's oldies like me. 66 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 5: Who really need to have that cover who are not 67 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 5: prepared to roll the dice. But what really annoys me 68 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 5: is thatment consecutive governments have been told and have been 69 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 5: aware that the population is aging, that the strain on 70 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 5: our health system was going to get worse as people 71 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 5: do get older. And when we have people like me, 72 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 5: I've been paying the top cover of health cover since 73 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 5: i was sixteen. I don't think I've used it that often. 74 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 5: Maybe in my later life a little bit more, but 75 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 5: you cannot afford not to have it. 76 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 3: But when they're not, you see the gap growing. 77 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 5: You're paying all this money and yet you're still having 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 5: to top it up. So the health funds are announcing 79 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 5: big profits. They're not willing to pay for private rooms 80 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 5: as we know, and. 81 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: There's the pinch. 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 5: But if people drop out, it's going to put more 83 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 5: pressure on the health system and our hospital drowning as 84 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 5: it is, so you know, there's a huge dilemma for 85 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 5: this government. 86 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: The funeral surrounding the Prime Minister's purchase of a luxury 87 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 3: beach house continues. If Anthony Albeneasy thought this would be 88 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 3: a twenty four hour story. He was mistaken. He's been 89 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 3: accused of poor political judgment after purchasing this four point 90 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: three million dollar home on the New Southwelles Central Coast. 91 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: When asked about whether he had thought about how struggling 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: Australians would view the purchase, this was his response. 93 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: We also know what it's like. 94 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 6: To struggle. My mum lived in the one public housing 95 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 6: that she was born in for all of her sixty 96 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 6: five years, and I know what it's like, which is 97 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 6: why I want to help all Australians into a home. 98 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: And some people are taking the purchase as a sign 99 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 3: that he's bracing for an election loss, already perhaps contemplating 100 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: life after politics. Are you planning to retire there? 101 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 6: I'm planning to be in my current job for a 102 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 6: very long period of time. 103 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: And then he seemed to suggest that the purchase was 104 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: motivated by his film. 105 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 6: Say, well, Jody and I getting married, as is known, 106 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 6: and I'm pleased about that. And JODI's a coasty She's 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 6: a proud, coasty prow. 108 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 3: What are you thinking all this? 109 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 5: Well, look, one could say that he's very justified in 110 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 5: buying himself a house, as the headlines have been saying, 111 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 5: it's just the timing, the judgment, the fact that he 112 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 5: really doesn't have a clue about what people are going through, 113 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 5: and he offers platitudes. Oh yeah, we know it's the 114 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 5: cost of living. We know that it's hard to buy 115 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 5: a house, particularly if you're a young couple. And yet 116 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 5: his deeds are denying all of that, because he's allowing 117 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 5: migrants to flood through the borders, and of course. 118 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 2: That's part of our problem. 119 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 5: And then we also have the fact that Labor has 120 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 5: always been the party of envy, you know, political envy, 121 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 5: and they've done a great job of actually, I believe, 122 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 5: failing aspirational Australians, you know, tradees who worked hard, small 123 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 5: mum and dads and of course self funded retirees who 124 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 5: are really at the thin end of the woods and 125 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 5: being penalized for the fact that they've worked hard. And 126 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 5: here he is saying he's worked hard and no one 127 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 5: can deny that. You know, it's a crappy job twenty 128 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 5: fourth to seven, but he's got so many perks and 129 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 5: he does earn a good living. But to me, it's 130 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 5: just doesn't fit with the narrative that the Labor Party 131 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 5: seems to want to propose. And of course you have 132 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 5: the Greens. Fourteen of them have three or more properties, 133 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 5: so I mean they're all just hypocrites. 134 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: Well, it's the location of the house more so than anything. 135 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: For me. If this was in Sydney, you could look 136 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: at the price and go well, it's a uniquely expensive market. 137 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: And he is the Prime Minister. If he wants to 138 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: live in a four and a half million dollar house, 139 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: good luck to him. But the fact that this is 140 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: not going to be his main residence, it's going to 141 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: be a beach house. I think he probably is going 142 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: to lease it out for a period that I think 143 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: is upsetting a few people. If you could a four 144 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: to four and a half million dollar beach house, perhaps 145 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: you're not really understanding what most Australians are going through 146 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: with the cost of living crisis. Now let's look at 147 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: this report released by Australian Seniors. It sheds more light 148 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: on the housing crisis facing young Australians. In particular, it's 149 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: so bad now that many are opting to live with 150 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 3: their parents well into their thirties. Prough and the Risk 151 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: report showed that eighty percent of Australian parents don't actually 152 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: want their children to move back home, and one in 153 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: three are giving their children an early inheritance or providing 154 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: some sort of financial support to help them either buy 155 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: a house or just for a bond so they can 156 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: rent a place. This is impacting how people live, both 157 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: retire people in retirement age and also young Australians. Well, 158 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: this is the thing and what I guess the Albanezi 159 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: government doesn't understand that it's impacting people in really amazing 160 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: ways that really are going to cost them for the 161 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: rest of their lives, whether it be dipping into their 162 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: savings that they've really worked hard to build. But in 163 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 3: this case, you know, having your children, these boomerang children 164 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: come and want to live with you, and the dynamics 165 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 3: of the two generations or even three generations just don't work. 166 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: So I can understand that, you know, parents want to 167 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: help their kids, but they don't want. 168 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 5: To sacrifice their lifestyle. I think it's a good idea 169 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 5: if they can afford it, to try and help them now, 170 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 5: because if the kids were likely to inherit the you know, 171 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 5: their savings and some sort of good inheritance, it's going 172 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 5: to allow them to buy a house in the future. 173 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 5: If they can do it now, well and good. But 174 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 5: I don't blame them for being tough on it. 175 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: But what do you do. 176 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 5: You don't want to see your children on the streets 177 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 5: and that's what a lot of them are facing. 178 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: Prou McSween, thank you so much for your time tonight. 179 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Liberal Senator Alex and tick Alex, 180 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: let's start with this issue. I cannot believe this. Foreign 181 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: policy experts have warned against the Albanesi government's move to 182 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 3: take what it calls a First Nations approach to Australia's 183 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: foreign policy. The Daily Telegraph has obtained an email sent 184 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: by strategy firm Inside Policy on behalf of First Nations 185 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: people Ambassador Justin Muhammad to indigenous stakeholders for their input 186 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: into Australia's foreign policy. A DEFAT spokesman wouldn't answer questions 187 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: on how much taxpayer money was going to Inside Policy, 188 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: and they said the Department is committed to ensuring the 189 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: implementation of a First nation's approach to foreign policy is 190 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: evidence based and includes knowledge and insights from First Nations leaders, businesses, 191 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: stakeholders and communities across Australia. This looks like a very 192 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:09,359 Speaker 3: expensive and I would argue unnecessary exercise. 193 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, reader, I think that's right. I mean the first 194 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 7: thing I'd say off the cuff is I think we 195 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 7: and the government departments and the public generally have to 196 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 7: get over this business of using this term first Nations. 197 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 7: I mean, it's a myth. There were no nations, and 198 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 7: in fact what we are seeing now is really in 199 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 7: practice this division of the country, the sort of division 200 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 7: which was roundly warded off by the Australian voting public 201 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 7: twelve months ago. I mean, in fact, the Voice referendum 202 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 7: was the voice of unity really in the sense people said, 203 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 7: we are all Australians. And so for this sort of 204 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 7: prospect of having these decisions being outsourced and the rule 205 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 7: of being run over from a so called first Nations 206 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 7: point of view is very troubling. Were used to this 207 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 7: at local government, at state level, many instances of that 208 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 7: happening here in South Australia, with some matters that we 209 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 7: were alerted to, where tens of thousands of dollars, if 210 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 7: not hundreds of thousands of dollars were spent consulting and 211 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 7: reconsulting and going back to various groups, indigenous groups about 212 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 7: signs at a National park and whether or not they 213 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 7: fitted the cultural sensitivity. 214 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: But this is a new level. 215 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 7: I mean, these are extraordinarily important matters of foreign affairs 216 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 7: that simply just do not have to be dealt with 217 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 7: in this matter. 218 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: It's frightening and Australian should be alarmed. 219 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: Well. 220 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 3: Defat seems to be completely taken over by identity politics. 221 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: You look at so many of their communications and positions 222 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: they take. It seems to be rife through the bureaucracy. 223 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: But when it does come to foreign policy, what does 224 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: this mean? Are we going to have two separate points 225 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: of view, one that represents all Australians and one that 226 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: only represents the First Nations Ambassador. I'm really quite confused 227 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: about how this new appointment even works. 228 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 229 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 7: I mean they would say all they're doing is consulting 230 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 7: with stakeholders, but really, we're all Australians. I mean I 231 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 7: don't see them consulting with the Greek Australian community. I 232 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 7: don't see them consulting with the Vietnamese Australian community. We're 233 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 7: all Australians and our foreign policy should be in the 234 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 7: best interests of Australia. So look, there are those in 235 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 7: the left in this country who simply want to see 236 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 7: those divisions. They love the identity politics. It's rife through 237 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 7: the bureaucracy and as we both know, the leftist terrarium 238 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 7: that is Parliament House during estimates shows that as clearly 239 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 7: as you would ever like to see. But this sort 240 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 7: of division has to stop. We need to speak with 241 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 7: one voice. 242 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 3: And you're so right about the term First Nations really 243 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 3: not being accurate. It's a political term, not even a 244 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: political term. Our activist came up whether it's taken from Canada, 245 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: and when you hear it, there should be a red 246 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: flag because it's normally politics at play. Now let's move 247 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: on to the bigam Bull Native Title Aboriginal Corporation being 248 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: granted a two hundred and ten hectar freehold land parcel 249 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: freehold land parcel surrounding the outback Queensland town of Toba. 250 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: After three years of talks with the local and state governments. 251 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: There now no Big and Bull people currently live in 252 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: to Beer and they haven't lived there, Alex since the 253 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: late nineteen sixties. What do you make of this decision? 254 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 7: Well, I mean I read the article with interest as well, 255 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 7: and one of the one of the local business people 256 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 7: there says his family business has been in the area longer. 257 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 7: And of course this was an extension of native title. Effectively, 258 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 7: this was freehold title which was given to the group 259 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 7: because they were. 260 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: Native title interests. 261 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 7: And I mean I remember very early on as a 262 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 7: university student when the Native Title Act was introduced to 263 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 7: people saying, oh, there's no way this is going to evolve. 264 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 7: This is just you know, native title is what it is. 265 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 7: And here we are. We're seeing this all over the country. 266 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 7: And it's not just this one extreme example either. It's 267 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 7: also issues of permits being given out left, right and center. 268 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 7: We've seen the reports of permits being needed to enter 269 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 7: land some beaches in Queensland. I believe the Central Land 270 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 7: Cancel is still requiring vaccine passports. 271 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: To get through, some of them in the Northern territory. 272 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 7: So this is an extension of the issue we talked 273 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 7: about to start off with. 274 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: This is Australia. It is one country. 275 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 7: This nonsense of having permits for everything to get into 276 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 7: parts of our own country is I mean, if it's 277 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 7: not alarming Australians, imagine what the voice would have done. 278 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 7: I mean, this is the one thing rank and file 279 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 7: everyday Australians have rejected this concept and it's time some 280 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 7: of these bureaucrats and weak politicians started doing the same thing. 281 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: Well, yes, you had over sixty percent say no resoundingly, 282 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: and so many of the bureaucrats have just ignored that 283 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: and going on with their agenda like the referendum never happened. Now, 284 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: just finally, before you go, a huge win for free speech. 285 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: Last week, Australia's e Karen as I call it, Julie 286 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: Inman Grant has abandoned her battle with Elon Musk and 287 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: X over the removal of videos from the alleged terror 288 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: event at Wakeley Church back in April. This is a 289 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: big win, Alex, but the Orwellian disinformation legislation that we're 290 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: now looking at will make this victory seem insignificant. It's nothing. 291 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: If something like that comes in, it comes in and 292 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: everyone's free speech and free expression is going to be impacted. 293 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 294 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 7: Well, I mean these are the sort of canaries down 295 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 7: the coal mine of what we are going to see 296 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 7: if that act passes, Bill passes, which we all hope 297 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 7: it will not. I mean, these are you know, seemingly 298 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 7: simple things a Twitter post involving a violent attack. Sure, 299 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 7: but they're always couched in the language of preventing palmed children. 300 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 7: You'll see all of the incursions onto free speech online 301 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 7: being framed in that terminology. This office originally started as 302 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 7: the Office of the Children's e Safety Commissioner, and of 303 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 7: course the mission creep has crept out into all sorts now. 304 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 7: The same will apply to half a dozen pieces of 305 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 7: legislation that have come through the Digital id Act being 306 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 7: one of them, and of course this Combating Misinformation Bill 307 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 7: will morph into bigger and badder forms of censorship. It's 308 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 7: bad enough as it is at the moment, but this 309 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 7: is indicative of where it heads. We need to defeat it. 310 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 7: This is a message for the cross bench in the Senate. 311 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 7: They need to understand that this can flip on both 312 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 7: sides of politics. This is not a left and right issues. 313 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 7: This is a free speech issue. And we've got to 314 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 7: see this clearly for what it is, because I'm worried 315 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 7: that there is a push on from even more power 316 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 7: after the Combating this Information Bill passes. 317 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: If it does, which we hope it doesn't. 318 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 3: Well, where does it stand in the Upper House, are 319 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: the crossbenches likely to support it, and what's your feeling 320 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 3: about its chances of passing? 321 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 7: Well, Look, I mean from the limited discussions that I've 322 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 7: had with some of them, they seem to be across 323 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 7: the fact that it's bad law, and I hope that 324 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 7: stands the test of time. I mean, I'll certainly be 325 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 7: doing what I can to speak to anyone who will 326 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 7: vote against this. What I'm worried about, of course, is 327 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 7: that amendments come in and we get watered down into 328 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 7: a slightly less worse version of an already terrible piece 329 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 7: of law. That's what I think we need to be 330 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 7: fearful of. This doesn't need to be amended to a 331 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 7: satisfactory position. This needs to be scotched and thrown out 332 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 7: the door and never repeat it, because it's bad for everyone. 333 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 7: Whether you are a person who thinks that there should 334 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 7: be treaty for indigenous people in this country, or you're 335 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 7: a person that wants to be told what to do 336 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 7: with their own health care, it doesn't matter. 337 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: This bill is bad for business. 338 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 3: Oh, It's absolutely bad. And like the Voice, like something 339 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: that was going to enshrine racial division into the constitution. 340 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: This is just bad on its face, it's toxic, it's poison. 341 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 3: We don't needed watered down, we needed gone. So I 342 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 3: do genuinely hope that the cross benches don't get bribed 343 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: or don't get influenced by the bay of the Albanezy 344 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 3: government and stick to their guns, because if this comes in, 345 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: it's going to impact everybody. Though sadly, Alex, so many 346 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 3: on the left these days seem to favor these sorts 347 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: of laws. They do want to see free speech curb. 348 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 3: They do want to see their political opponents suppressed. 349 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, look it's right. 350 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 7: I had a conversation with Michael Schellenberger, of course, who 351 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 7: is from the progressive left in Berkeley in California. Can't 352 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 7: get much more left wing than that, and that model 353 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 7: of left wing, I think is a very different beast 354 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 7: to the new modern, cosmopolitan, authoritarian version of the left, 355 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 7: and people like him can see it. Unfortunately, I'm not 356 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 7: sure that's transcribed properly across to the Australian left, to 357 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 7: many of whom think it's quite okay to scotch free 358 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 7: speech if it suits your political narrative. That shouldn't be 359 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 7: the way any of us behave, and the Bill needs 360 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 7: to be defeated. 361 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 3: Senator ALEXANDIQ. Thanks for your time. 362 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: Thanks reader. 363 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: Still to Carmi your favorite segment, Lefties Losing It and 364 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: the latest from the US, including black and Hispanic voters 365 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: walking away from the Democrats. Army Horowitz is up next. 366 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 3: Welcome back. Now it's time for Lefties Losing It And 367 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 3: to the Ladies of the View, the bitter, mean spirited 368 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 3: d Lulu Ladies of the View, here is Sunny Houston 369 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: calling black men Cuban men who vote for Trump ridiculous 370 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 3: and crazy. 371 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 8: You've got fifty three percent of white women that voted 372 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 8: for him in twenty twenty. We've got to reach those women. 373 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 8: We've got to reach those ridiculous, crazy black men that 374 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 8: did vote for Trump. We've got to reach those people. 375 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 8: We've got to reach the Cuban men in Miami that 376 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 8: overwhelmingly voted for Trump. I don't know what their hearts 377 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 8: look like. 378 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: That should be part of Trump's next ad. He'll set 379 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 3: records for the black vote. If more black folk knew 380 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: how the elite Democrat class look at them. And if 381 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: you want to know just how wacky Sonny is, listen 382 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: to her say just last month that Joe Biden's legacy 383 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 3: will rival George Washington's. I wish I was kidding. 384 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 8: I truly believe that his legacy will be etched in 385 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 8: the history books as Washington as someone who put that 386 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 8: ego aside and put his country in her So he's 387 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 8: definitely his leg. 388 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 3: It's still funny every time I hear it. Now, let's 389 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 3: from some black men who are voting for Trump, even 390 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: as this shopkeeper who's interviewing them tries to convince them 391 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 3: to vote for Kamala by the vote. 392 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, who you vote for Trump? 393 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: Come on, bro, Harris thu us backwards? 394 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: Broke what Harris Man? 395 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: We're not We're not voting for that man. He's voting 396 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: for Trump. 397 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: Man, I'm black, So why are you riding with Trump 398 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: so much? 399 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 9: The Venezuela is taking all our bread? 400 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: Added Trump or Kamala Trump? Be honest? Why Trump? 401 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 4: Though he used to keep immigrants out so you know 402 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 4: we were able for us to get jobs. It's hard 403 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 4: for us to get jobs now, sure because immigrants taken 404 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 4: over in Like. 405 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: What would make you wanna vote for Kamala? 406 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 3: Hey? 407 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: God, we was all us two people on earth. 408 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: Still wouldn't do that. Shit from broke grade. 409 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: It's like that, Yes, like that, I don't would I. 410 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 2: Go with Trump? She ain't no good. I put it 411 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: like that. 412 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 9: So whoever want to believe it, go on her, check 413 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 9: her history, y'all turn around here. 414 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 10: So you would you would have vote for a black 415 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 10: woman that's gonna be the first black woman in. 416 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 8: Office, that's gonna start World War three soon when she get. 417 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: In Kamala Trump Trump? 418 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, bro, Tamala till it's backwards. 419 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 10: Brokamala, we voted for Trump. 420 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: But what did you talk about? You know? 421 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 10: Damn well, we don't Kamala trum Trump give our free 422 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 10: stems and everything. 423 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 2: You tweaking? Yeah, that's how you feel, you tweaking? 424 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 11: Bro Vo Kamala man, we you and come on, bro, 425 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 11: I can't even have my opinion. 426 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 10: Damn bro, bro, you voted for you, so you went 427 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 10: there all them Venezuela, you with. 428 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: All that goofy nah ain't no. Yeah. 429 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: Now the Democrats and Kamala Harris are in full panic. 430 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: Might black men are abandoning the Democrats and Barack Obama 431 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 3: writing the brothers as he calls them, isn't going to 432 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: bring them back. So the they went on the breakfast 433 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: club and talked about reparations before again reminding us she 434 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: grew up in a middle class family. 435 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 10: A caution to you is what's your stance on reparations. 436 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 10: We all know that America became great, you know, off 437 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 10: the backs of free black labor. How of argue on 438 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 10: making it a priority and right in America's wrongs? 439 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: Yes, I am running to be a president for all Americans. 440 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 4: That being said, I do have clear eyes about the 441 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: disparities that exist and the context in which they exist, 442 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 4: meaning history to your point. So my agenda, well, first 443 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 4: of all, on the plane of reparations, it has to 444 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 4: be studied. There's no question about that, and I've been 445 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 4: very clear about that position. In terms of my immediate plan, 446 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 4: I will tell you a few of the following one 447 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 4: as it relates to the economy, which is a lot 448 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 4: of what you have addressed. Look, I grew up in 449 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 4: the middle class. My mother, you know, worked hard, raised 450 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 4: me and my sister. 451 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 3: She always goes back to that, but reparations, really so 452 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 3: people who've never owned slaves, giving money to people who've 453 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: never been slaves sounds like the sort of lifty losing 454 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: a policy. Harris always champions also on the program, We've 455 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: got these this incredible statement from Kamala saying the only 456 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 3: reason she is losing support is because Republicans are scaring 457 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: people away. Then she goes straight to one of her 458 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: favorite bits of scare mongering and lies about Project twenty five. 459 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 4: Part of the challenge that I face is that they 460 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 4: are trying to scare people away because they know they 461 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 4: otherwise have nothing to run on. Ask Donald Trump, but 462 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 4: his plan is for Black America? Ask him, well, you know, 463 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what it is. Look at Project twenty twenty. 464 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: Five, Project twenty five, Project twenty five. The hypocrisy, the 465 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: projection there is incredible. All they have is fear and 466 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: lies about Project twenty five and threats to democracy. And 467 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: with the Democrats losing support among black men, we saw 468 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: Kamala resort to racist, sexist bribes. She posted this overnight. 469 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: She said black men deserve a president who cares about 470 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 3: making their life better, and then she attached her policy 471 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: agenda for black men, including creating an opportunity agenda for 472 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 3: black men, not black women, not Latino men, certainly not 473 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 3: white folk, just black men mentioned in her communication. And 474 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 3: let's look at what she offers this demographic, one million dollars, sorry, 475 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 3: one million loans that are fully forgivable, and the women 476 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 3: who locked up people for marijuana offenses is now promising 477 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 3: to make weed legal because that's all black men care 478 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 3: about in Kamala's eyes, not paying back their loans and weed. 479 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 3: Can you imagine if Trump posted a policy called creating 480 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: an opportunity agenda for white men. But the VP has 481 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 3: not just been race baiting, She's also been stargazing. 482 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: You know, there's this whole I talked with somebody wants 483 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 4: to say, you know, if you just look at where 484 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 4: the stars are in the sky, don't look them as 485 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 4: just random things. If you just look at them as points. 486 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 4: Look at the constellation. What does it show you? So 487 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 4: you just outlined it, Roland, what does it show you? 488 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 3: I have no idea what that was about. I've got 489 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 3: no explanation at all. Just thank god she has such 490 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 3: a relatable, normal, masculine man's man from the Midwest as 491 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: her running mate. Not like he's going to say anything stupid. 492 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: Look, you all know it. We can't have four more 493 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 2: years of this. We won't have four more years of it. 494 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 2: We won't. 495 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 3: There you go, that's definitely in Trump's next ad, we 496 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: can't have four more years of this. He's right, the 497 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: Democrats have been terrible. And if he thought sassy moves 498 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 3: and stupid comments for all Timwalls had to offer, then 499 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 3: you'd be wrong. He's actually quite means spirited too. Here 500 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: he mocks Trump and a woman who he helped out 501 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: by giving her one hundred dollars for her grocery bill. 502 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 12: But he walks into this grocery store and he hands 503 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 12: one hundred dollars bill to a lady of pay for 504 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 12: his grocery. Did you see this? So I'm like thinking, 505 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 12: I wonder what he's doing there, And then I got 506 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 12: to thinking, I think it's just natural any woman he 507 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 12: sees he pays off because he did something on there. 508 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what an absolute grub. Joining me now 509 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 3: is filmmaker and commentator Army Horowitz. Army. The left is 510 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 3: in meltdown over new polling data showing that Donald Trump 511 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 3: is gaining popularity among black and Hispanic voters. Even CNN 512 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 3: pundits are a spin in a spin about this. It 513 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 3: looks like Trump will have the best performance with black 514 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: voters since nineteen sixty That's the best black vote for 515 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: a Republican in sixty four years, despite continuously being called 516 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: a racist army. 517 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, look, it's absolutely incredible. Obama, the Obama coalition propelled 518 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 11: Obama and Joe Biden to the presidency. Was he is 519 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 11: a three legged stool, right, it's white women, Hispanics, and 520 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 11: Black voters. And while he's gaining with white women, although 521 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 11: that's actually being outpaced by the gains by Trump with 522 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 11: white men, the other two legs of the stool are 523 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 11: cratering Rita. First of all, the Hispanic vote, the Hispanic 524 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 11: vote two elections ago, was it nearly seventy percent? Right 525 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 11: now Trump might get fifty percent. He's run now pulling 526 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 11: it close to fifty percent of the Hispanics. That despite 527 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 11: the fact that media, the media business continuously trying to 528 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 11: call him his anti Hispanic, right, it's all they do. 529 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 11: He hates immigrants, he hates Hispanics. Hispanics aren't stupid. They 530 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 11: see what's going on. And that's why he might win 531 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 11: close to fifty percent of the Hispanic vote. 532 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: Okay, this is not going well for them. 533 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 11: The black vote, the black vote historically votes the Democrats 534 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 11: at a higher rate than Putin win in his last 535 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 11: rigged election. Okay, they vote for Democrats at nearly ninety percent. 536 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 11: But right now it is possible that Trump is gonna 537 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 11: win twenty five percent of the black vote. That may 538 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 11: not seem like a lot to you, but that is 539 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 11: that is a bigger percent of the black vote in 540 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 11: almost sixty years for publics. But more importantly is that 541 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 11: that vote may flip a state like Pennsylvania where he 542 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 11: really has a problem in the Philadelphia urban area. Look, 543 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 11: all of these things are coming together and creating absolute 544 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 11: desperation and fear in the camp for Kamala Harris. How 545 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 11: do we know that because she's going on She's going 546 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 11: to the death Star. She's going on to Fox News 547 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 11: for an interview. She is so desperate that she is. Look, 548 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 11: she can't handle friendly interviews, Rita, how is she gonna 549 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 11: handle Brett Baer And Brett Bhrer, by the way, is 550 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 11: not an attack dog. Brett Bhaer is actually just fair, right, 551 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 11: fair and honest, And she's not gonna handle that. She 552 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 11: can't handle the view, Rita, what is she gonna do? Look, 553 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 11: the polling is all trending away from her. You know, 554 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 11: a couple of quick stats, but I think are really 555 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 11: important right now in the rust Belt. Right the three 556 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 11: most important swing states Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. Right now, she's 557 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 11: behind in all he may sweep all three of them, 558 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 11: and Wisconsin, which was kind of solidly in her camp, 559 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 11: not by much, pretty solidly, And the last ten poles 560 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 11: that were done, she's only up in four of those poles. 561 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 11: In Pennsylvania and the last ten polls, she's only. 562 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: Up in two. 563 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 11: And in Michigan, which is probably the solid smoke, solid 564 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 11: blue of those three, and the last ten poles, she's 565 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 11: only up by one. She's down statistically in all of 566 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 11: those swing states. And he's probably gonna win Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, 567 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 11: and right now Nevada is treading toward him. So he 568 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 11: may look right now it's possible if the election were 569 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 11: health today, he might win every one of those swing states. 570 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 11: It is desperation time in Harris's camp. 571 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 3: And as we know with him, he is historically polls badly. 572 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: He is vote is underrepresented in those polls. The end 573 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: results always turns out to show that he had far 574 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 3: more support. I remember in twenty twenty, the margins between 575 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 3: the last polls and what he actually achieved at the 576 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: election were enormous in some states, so that I think 577 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 3: would be playing on the Democrats mind as well. Just 578 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: how bad are the real numbers, not just what we're seeing, 579 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: And you can see why her camp is panicking and 580 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: coming up with these vote buying policies that are frankly 581 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: races one million forgivable loans of up to twenty thousand dollars. 582 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 3: She's aiming this at black men to try to get 583 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: them to stick with the Democrats. She's talked about protecting 584 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 3: cryptocurrency investments for black men, making recreational weed legal, and 585 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 3: certainly having brac Obama go out there and great black 586 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: men seem to backfire army. That did not That did 587 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 3: not work. In fact, I think it did far more 588 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 3: damage than good. 589 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: No. 590 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 11: I mean, on what planet do you think it's a 591 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 11: good idea for anybody? I don't care if it's for 592 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 11: the first black president to go out to the constituency 593 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 11: you're trying to get to support you and to vote 594 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 11: for you, and then demonize them and say you're a 595 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 11: bunch of misogynist idiots. 596 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: On what planet is that going to work? I don't understand. 597 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: Now you've been out on the ground again, speaking to voters. 598 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: You're in Harlem. Here's what one young man had to 599 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: say about why so many black men are leaving the Democrats. 600 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 9: You think, whether it's broke, Ben Bronx, I see a 601 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 9: lot of people that you will never think, Oh, you know, 602 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 9: I'm pro Trump. 603 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: You know, let's go Trump. Do you know they particularly 604 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: black men? 605 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, believe it or not. 606 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 9: I'm in all. A lot of the media, especially what 607 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 9: we see now you know CNN and you know everything, 608 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 9: they don't really tell us the full story. They pushed 609 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 9: this notion that maybe Trump is like this bad guy 610 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 9: and something he could Yeah, he could very well just 611 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 9: be like a bad guy. But I'd be lying if 612 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 9: you know, like numbers don't lie. If you look back, 613 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 9: he's done a lie, especially you know in terms of 614 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 9: employment and stuff. He's done a lot for you know, 615 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 9: like us, you know, under his administration and. 616 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 3: Ami, as you pointed out, the issues that impact black 617 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: people are the same ones that issue that impact everybody else, 618 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 3: whether it's crime, inflation, the illegal immigration crisis. And I 619 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 3: think that's something that the Democrats are forgotten. The areas 620 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 3: where they have failed America, they've also found the black community. 621 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: Look, I was out there all day. 622 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 11: Look, I'm in Harlem quite often talking to black people, 623 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 11: but you know I spent all day talking to them 624 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 11: specifically for a video on this topic. And yes, look, 625 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 11: they understand that they are being taken for granted. That's 626 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 11: like you hear that all the time by black people. Look, 627 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 11: we're voting ninety percent. 628 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 2: What are we doing? What are we getting for this? 629 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: They're not stupid. 630 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 11: They're old enough to remember what it was like under 631 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 11: Trump and compared to what their life is like today 632 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 11: under Joe Biden. And they're looking and say, we were 633 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 11: better off four years ago. Not just black people, by 634 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 11: the way, but the same question that every American asked themselves. 635 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 11: And they come to the same inclusion, My life was 636 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 11: better four years ago than it is today. That's a problem, 637 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 11: that's an endemic problem the Democrats they cannot run away from. 638 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 11: And and this balkanization of black people to say, hey, 639 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 11: your issues are different than everybody else, it's so patronizing, 640 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 11: it's so racist, it's so ignorant. 641 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: What are black issues? What's a black issue? I don't know. 642 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 2: I know what a black issue is. 643 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 11: It's crime, it's education, it's immigration, it's the economy, it's inflation. 644 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 2: Oh guess what those are also my issues? 645 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 11: How could that be? We're all the same, Yes, we're 646 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 11: all the same. The Democrats cannot understand that. That is 647 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 11: why I think, Look, I'm gonna call it now. I 648 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 11: think Trump's wins this election. The thing is trending toward him. 649 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 11: It's only three weeks left. I don't see this turning 650 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 11: around anytime soon. Unless there's some kind of massive mistake 651 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 11: that he maxed, which is always possible. 652 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 2: I'm calling the shot. I think Trump's gonna win. 653 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure the Democrats will have a few tricks 654 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 3: up their sleeve. I don't know if it'll be more 655 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 3: law fair or what they're going to throw, but I'm 656 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 3: sure there will be something, because surely they would have 657 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 3: known that Kamala Harris wasn't going to be some visionary 658 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 3: leader that was going to just make people forget the 659 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 3: last four years. She was pretty inept as vice president, 660 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 3: which they tried to memory hold for the nation. The 661 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 3: media campaign around her, I think is something that will 662 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 3: study for decades to come. 663 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 2: Now. 664 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 3: Crime is a big issue in this election, particularly in 665 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 3: the big cities, including New York. The New York Post 666 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 3: had this front page. It says it all. You've got 667 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 3: migrant youth gangs run riot in Manhattan, operating out of 668 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: taxpayer funded shelters, and the teenagers are terrorizing folks, I mean, 669 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: Times Square. They seem to have little fear of consequences 670 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 3: even after committing things that robberies and armed robberies. How 671 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 3: bad is this issue in a place like New York 672 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 3: and now the cities across America. 673 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 11: Look, I've said before, I'm not antiperbole. I don't like 674 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 11: making things bigger than they are. I live in New York. 675 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 11: Things are not great. Things are bad. They're trending worse, 676 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 11: and a lot of it's because of the legal immigrants 677 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 11: we are coming in. There's no question about it. Are 678 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 11: we Venezuela? Of course I don't like those comparisons. 679 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. 680 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 11: But are we better now again we were four, eight 681 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 11: or ten years ago? No, of course or not. It's 682 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 11: much much worse. Crime is absolutely getting worse. You can 683 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 11: feel it, you can see it. We're gonna believe me 684 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 11: or your lying on right, that's whatever New Yorker says. Well, 685 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 11: they hear, oh, crime is down. That's not really true, 686 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 11: at least for the crime that affects people. Look, they're 687 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 11: supposed to be handcuffing the criminals, but instead they're handcuffing 688 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 11: the police. They're not allowing, they're disallowing the police to 689 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 11: do what they have to do, particularly when it comes 690 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 11: around illegal immigration, because New York is a sanctuary city, 691 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 11: and by the way, most of the Blue cities, the 692 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 11: big Blue cities, are sanctuary cities, and this is one 693 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 11: of the massive problems. They have safe havens they can 694 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 11: go to. And also there's also a significant problem about 695 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 11: youth crime because these people aren't stupid. They know how 696 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 11: to gain the system, and they know that if if 697 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 11: they take children and have the children commit crimes that 698 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 11: they lagged against them. As weak as they are against adults, 699 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 11: they're almost non existent when they come to miners and 700 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 11: miners is anything under eighteen and they know that, so 701 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 11: they're recruiting young people. 702 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 2: It is. It is child abuse. It is unbelievable. 703 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 11: Look, not that long ago, I actually saw a man 704 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 11: threatening a young woman late at night on Saturday night, 705 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 11: twelve thirty in the morning, threatened to kill and rape 706 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 11: her and mean a guy who had didn't know saw 707 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 11: this go on. 708 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 2: We grabbed him we put him under a sins arrest. 709 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 11: And we held him. We called nine one one. First 710 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 11: of all, it took seven minutes for the police to 711 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 11: get to us. Seven minutes you're holding a man who 712 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 11: does not want to be held down is a long time. 713 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 11: When the cops got there, I said, they said, I 714 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 11: explain what they were doing. He was actually threatening to 715 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 11: kill the police while we were holding him, and the 716 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 11: police said, let him go. There's nothing we can do. 717 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 11: They literally told me that I had to let this 718 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 11: psycho path go free because the police would do nothing. 719 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 11: It is horrible what's going on. And by the way, 720 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 11: look maybe okay, maybe not. 721 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: Worse, but pretty close to worse. 722 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,800 Speaker 11: And how the media is downplaying all of this rita. 723 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 11: The media has tried to pretend none of this is happening, right, 724 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 11: These are not. 725 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: The droids you are looking for. 726 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 11: You watched the jd vance interview with Martha Radditts and ABC. 727 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 11: It was unbelievable. She was a mouthpiece for the DNC. 728 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 11: She kept saying, it's not a big deal. It's not 729 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 11: a big deal in Colorado. It's only her words. 730 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 2: A handful of. 731 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 11: Apartment buildings have been taken over by gangs and Jenny 732 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 11: dance his credit, he goes, do you hear yourself? 733 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 2: I I was jumping up and I was saying, thank god, Jedie, 734 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 2: you nailed it. A handful of them and you're. 735 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 11: Saying, that's okay, It's unbelievable. 736 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 2: This is why Trump's gonna win. This is Trump. Oh 737 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 2: Buller Bueller. 738 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 3: That is such a great line by jd Vance. Do 739 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 3: you hear yourself? It just I think it shook Martha 740 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: because it really is. 741 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 742 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 3: She literally said, it's just a handful of apartment buildings. 743 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 3: You know, Donald Trump has been inaccurate. And Donald Trump 744 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 3: got fact checked in that debate with Kamala Harris when 745 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 3: he talked about the crime rate and they said, oh, no, 746 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 3: the crimes less now, and when he mentioned, well, it's 747 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 3: because some agencies aren't actually reporting, and they tried to 748 00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 3: say that wasn't accurate, and it actually was. So yet 749 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 3: crime is a big issue. Legal immigration is a massive issue. 750 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 3: And I think after the Kamala honeymoon has been gone, 751 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 3: there's not much left that the Democrats are offering the 752 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 3: American people's I'm not surprised the polls are collapsing for her. 753 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 3: Horowitz always a pleasure. I thank you so much for 754 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 3: your time. This evening still to come, Stephanie Bastian will 755 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 3: tell us what Chris Min's support for a radical policy 756 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 3: will mean for New South Wales women. Welcome back joining 757 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 3: me now, Stephanie Bastian, Head of Advocacy at Women's Forum Australia. Stephanie, 758 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 3: this won't come as a huge surprise. New South Wales 759 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 3: Premier Chris Mins is supporting Alex Grienwich's equality Bill. He 760 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 3: confirmed that while opening a new pre school in Liverpool. 761 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: Alex Greenwich is amended equality Bill I think should pass 762 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: the parliament. That's what I'll be recommend. 763 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 3: The bill will be debated in New South Wales Parliament 764 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 3: this week. Some of the most concerning aspects of the 765 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 3: bill include the introduction of self ID, which will allow 766 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 3: anyone to change their legal sex, including children, enabling males 767 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 3: to legally identify as female for example, and access women's 768 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 3: only spaces. Steph this could become law very quickly. What 769 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 3: would it mean for women and girls in New South Wales. 770 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 13: Well, good evening reader, it is very concerning that the 771 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 13: Men's government have done a backflip on this bill. They've 772 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 13: sort of been pushing it down the road and vacillating 773 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 13: for nearly twelve months and suddenly there's this new version 774 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 13: and they're now ramming it through. This is going to 775 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 13: impact women and girls in particular, it takes away their 776 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 13: right to privacy and safety of single sex spaces because 777 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 13: entrenches into law men's rights to be protected under law 778 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 13: as women. If, for example, you have a man undressing 779 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 13: in a children or a female bar through and there's 780 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 13: no avenue for women to complain, whereas once upon a 781 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 13: time they could have, and in fact they're at risk 782 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 13: of being prosecuted under these laws because they'll be protected 783 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 13: under say the Discrimination Act. The opposition have formally opposed 784 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 13: this bill, but they've only had two hours to read it. 785 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 13: The debate started this afternoon. I imagine it'll probably be 786 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,479 Speaker 13: ran through tonight and then it'll go to the Upper 787 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 13: House tomorrow. But this is just such a poor piece 788 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 13: of legislation, and as we've seen in Queensland, where they've 789 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 13: got sex self id laws, women are being prosecuted. These 790 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 13: laws are intentional to change to protect men and to 791 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 13: give them the laws that are afforded to that are 792 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 13: meant to protect women. 793 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 3: And it's incredible because these laws are being introduced without 794 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 3: any sort of groundswell of support from the public. In fact, 795 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 3: I would to say that if you put this to 796 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 3: the public, the overwhelming majority would reject this sort of legislation. 797 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 3: But here we are. How does New South Wales legislation 798 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 3: compare to what's in place here in Victoria. 799 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 13: You only need to have a certificate, So you can 800 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 13: have a certificate saying that you're a woman. You go 801 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 13: and change your ID at the registry office. They are 802 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 13: not requiring any form of medical treatment or proof of 803 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 13: that you've had a physical change, and you can then 804 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 13: go and get documentation that says you're a woman, and 805 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 13: then you're able to access all the protection spaces, sporting grounds, prison. 806 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 2: Systems, you name it. 807 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 13: It just changes the game and removes all those protections 808 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 13: for women. 809 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 3: You mentioned prison systems. Here in Victoria, we've got a 810 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 3: male sex offender, at least one that we know of, 811 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 3: who identifies as female and is now housed in a 812 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 3: woman's prison, someone with a horrific history of offenses against 813 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 3: women and children sexual offenses. Could that happen in New 814 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 3: South Wales? 815 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 13: Absolutely and unfortunately the government may have protocols in place 816 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 13: that are allowing it. But the problem with these laws 817 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 13: is that it entrenches it. It gives them legal rights. 818 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 13: So if it's not, it will and then it is 819 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 13: another piece of legislation that needs to be repealed. One 820 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 13: thing that came up in sal Grover's case was that 821 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 13: Justice Bromwich said that the legislators were very intentional when 822 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 13: they changed these laws to allow people to change sex. 823 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 13: And so this is very intentional legislation giving men this 824 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 13: power to identify where and how they want so in 825 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 13: terms of whether they access or whether they can go 826 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 13: into female prisons, the legal mandate is now there to 827 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 13: allow them to do that, regardless of what their offenses 828 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 13: are and regardless of the safety risks to women. 829 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 3: Now, finally, the University of Nevada's female volleyball team is 830 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 3: the latest to forfoit matches against San Jose State, whose 831 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 3: team includes a transgender player, Blair Fleming. However, the University 832 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 3: of Nevada's management has contradicted the players, stating that the 833 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 3: players refusal to play against San Jose does not represent 834 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 3: the university's position and that it intends to proceed with 835 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 3: the matcher. Players are finally taking a stand Stephanie refusing 836 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 3: to participate in this fast that sees male bodies compete 837 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 3: in women's sport, but the bureaucracy isn't standing with the athletes. 838 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 13: Doesn't this just show the gap between the institutions and 839 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 13: the public good on these women for pushing back. 840 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 2: It is utterly unfair that female. 841 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 13: Competitors have to play with biological males who have a 842 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 13: physical and a physical advantage over them with their height 843 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 13: and their strength. I do think that the only way 844 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 13: that you're going to rectify the problem in sport is 845 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 13: by female athletes boycotting games, because once you have male players, 846 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 13: it's no longer a female competition. It's a mixed competition. 847 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 13: So if these women don't churn up to play against 848 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 13: these men, the rules will have to change because there 849 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 13: won't be a competition. So all power to them, and 850 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 13: I hope we see more of it happening here. 851 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 3: And we've got to understand it's not just that the 852 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 3: very elite level, the Olympic level, national championships. It's also 853 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 3: at the lower levels and for young girls as well, 854 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 3: when they work so hard to reach the height of 855 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 3: their sport, to earn scholarships, to earn all sorts of opportunities, 856 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 3: and to have that compromise by mediocre male athletes who 857 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 3: would never get those opportunities in men's sport, I think 858 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 3: it's just unacceptable, and for too long female athletes have 859 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,760 Speaker 3: been scared to take a stand. 860 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 2: Staff. Yeah. 861 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 13: Absolutely, And there's a train of thought that community level 862 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 13: sport women are actually more at risk of injury because 863 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 13: they're less conditioned to play and quite often their careers 864 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 13: ended early. Community sport is often a stepping stone into 865 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 13: elite sport. So if you get an injury in those 866 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 13: early years, which is happening particularly in AFLW, We've had 867 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 13: a number of women reach out since Caroline Marcus ran 868 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,720 Speaker 13: her story on AFLW where they've got life limiting injuries. 869 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 13: They've not been out of work. It's a significant problem 870 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 13: and it stops their career there and then so community 871 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 13: sport it's a much greater risk than elite sport. All 872 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 13: sports should be protected. 873 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 3: Thank you for your time, Stephanie, and that's all I've 874 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 3: got time for tonight. I'll see you tomorrow at eleven 875 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 3: with Douglas Mara. 876 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 2: Up. 877 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 3: Next is Newsnight,