Speaker 1: Why on Sky News This is Sharry.
Speaker 2: Good Evening, Big Show tonight coming up, how Anthony Albanizi
Speaker 2: has changed Australia for the worst as the cost of
Speaker 2: living crisis creeps up ahead of the federal election. Pro
Speaker 2: Palestinian protesters are tonight as you've been hearing descending on
Speaker 2: a Melbourne synagogue despite being told to counsel. Will go
Speaker 2: live to the scene in a moment. Also tonight, exclusive
Speaker 2: revelations that a man with a Hesbla tattoo on his
Speaker 2: neck has been charged over the anti Semitic rampage in
Speaker 2: Sydney's East. He was about to leave the country when
Speaker 2: police swooped at Sydney Airport. Those exclusive details in a moment,
Speaker 2: And Labor faces its own problem with women after Richard
Speaker 2: Miles's chief of staff takes claims of bullying to court.
Speaker 2: But first, as we sit here tonight, a month from Christmas,
Speaker 2: it appears less and less likely that Albanezi will win
Speaker 2: the next election. I say this not based on the polls,
Speaker 2: although the polls are sharply tracking downward, but based on
Speaker 2: the climate in Australia right now. Labour say over Peter Dutton,
Speaker 2: he's unelectable but he's not looking so unelectable right now.
Speaker 2: Albanizi also claims he is reassured by the fact that
Speaker 2: it's been nearly one hundred years since Labor had a
Speaker 2: one term government. In fact, it was the Great Depression
Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty one that saw Labor booted after one term.
Speaker 2: But traditions are currently being shattered.
Speaker 3: In America.
Speaker 2: There'd been only one president who'd won two non consecutive terms.
Speaker 2: That was Grover Cleveland in the late eighteen hundreds. Will
Speaker 2: Trump smash that tradition. He was only the second president
Speaker 2: in US history, and we saw his win was a landslide,
Speaker 2: three hundred and twelve College votes compared with Kamala's two
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty six. So Albanzi can't feel comforted by
Speaker 2: precedent and predictable voting batons when they're being obliterated. Now,
Speaker 2: what makes Australian voters consider voting Albanzi out is just
Speaker 2: how he's dramatically reshaped our country without warning or even
Speaker 2: getting a mandate for it at the last election, and
Speaker 2: his list of broken promises is mounting now. As you know,
Speaker 2: Albanezi took a small target agenda to the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two election. He sold voters on a dream of cheaper
Speaker 2: cost of living, lower power bills and petrol prices. This
Speaker 2: is the prime Minister's greatest failure. Simon Benson reports and
Speaker 2: I quote that households are suffering the worst decline in
Speaker 2: living standards since the nineteen fifties, with the fall in
Speaker 2: real disposable income eclipsing those of the last four major recessions,
Speaker 2: including the nineteen seventies inflation crisis and the COVID pandemic.
Speaker 2: Benzonosa reports that the current cost of living crisis is
Speaker 2: hurting households twice as hard as during the nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: and eighty two recession. And it's not pretty when you
Speaker 2: look at how other OECD countries are faring. Here's Australia's
Speaker 2: real gross household disposable income per capita. That's the figure
Speaker 2: that you can see in red. It's now falling and
Speaker 2: compared to the OECD, which is the line in blue
Speaker 2: that's now rising. That's each household's disposable income Now at
Speaker 2: the same time, as this graph shows, we're paying more
Speaker 2: personal income tax than ever and it's forecast to skyrocket further.
Speaker 2: You can see that forecast the red dotted line again.
Speaker 2: The worst living standard since the nineteen fifties are now
Speaker 2: occurring under a Prime Minister who was literally elected on
Speaker 2: a cost of living platform. Remember how often Albert Easy
Speaker 2: ram that message home during the election campaign.
Speaker 4: We've said that our priority is cost of living, putting
Speaker 4: that downward pressure on inflation, whilst making sure that we
Speaker 4: provide support for families and for people with cost of
Speaker 4: living pressures. Make pressure off cost of living, pressure off
Speaker 4: the cost of living, the cost of living, cost of living.
Speaker 2: Now, the cost of living crisis would be reason enough
Speaker 2: for voters to question voting Albin EASi back in.
Speaker 3: But there's so much more. The competition is.
Speaker 2: Tough for Albanesi's worst move since becoming PM. And here's
Speaker 2: some of the worst, and let's call them albotrocities. There's
Speaker 2: the misinformation legislation, the radical environmental laws, the big Australia
Speaker 2: immigration policy that made the housing crisis worse just last week,
Speaker 2: the political raid on the Future Fund, the Voice failure
Speaker 2: and the division that came with it, His tolerance for
Speaker 2: racism against Jews. He's doubling the tax on superannuation for
Speaker 2: wealthy retirees, and who could forget releasing criminals onto the
Speaker 2: streets where they've been free to bash grannies.
Speaker 3: The list is much longer than this.
Speaker 2: Of course, Albanzi has also refused to sign up to
Speaker 2: the COP twenty nine nuclear agreement alongside all like minded
Speaker 2: countries around the world.
Speaker 3: And then there's the unfathomable.
Speaker 2: Decision to grant visas to Palestinians from a terrorist control
Speaker 2: war zone while refusing a visa for a distinguished former
Speaker 2: Israeli minister who has family here in Australia, and the
Speaker 2: Palestinians are here to stay, thousands of them, while the
Speaker 2: Israeli minister was only meant to come here to speak
Speaker 2: at a security conference and visit her family. Albinisi, in
Speaker 2: his Sidekickpenny Wong, also treat allies as enemies and enemies
Speaker 2: as allies cozying up to China while continually attacking our
Speaker 2: ally in Israel. Even the Biden administration is perplexed. The
Speaker 2: moral confusion that we're seeing is astonishing, the capitulation to
Speaker 2: terrorism inexplicable. Now Christopher Doore breaks all of this down
Speaker 2: in his column, easily the most readable in the country,
Speaker 2: and he writes Australia has changed under Anthony Albinizi. It
Speaker 2: is more hateful, it is less safe, Its families are poorer,
Speaker 2: its place in the world less clear, its collective values corroded,
Speaker 2: its common sense corrupted. We are less united, less happily,
Speaker 2: less happy, and fundamentally more divided. A change of government
Speaker 2: has changed our country. It has been slow and subtle.
Speaker 2: It is now surreal. And his columns on the cover
Speaker 2: of The Nightly which says the rebrand.
Speaker 3: Of Australia gone wrong, and.
Speaker 2: He's spot on, We're all worse off economically and socially.
Speaker 2: Albanizi's fingerprints on almost every facet of our lives is.
Speaker 3: Now in upheaval.
Speaker 2: Without warning or asking for a mandate, Albanizi imparked on
Speaker 2: dramatic and dangerous change to our country. And I'm going
Speaker 2: to come back to discussion about that in a moment
Speaker 2: with Steve Price and Joe Hildebrand. But I just want
Speaker 2: to turn now to the breaking news today about the
Speaker 2: man who police allege is behind that anti Semitic attack
Speaker 2: in Wallara in Sydney's East where cars and homes were vandalized,
Speaker 2: one car even torched. Just days after that racist attack
Speaker 2: shook Sydney at the country. Police today arrested a twenty year.
Speaker 3: Old man, his name Muhammad far Hat. That was just
Speaker 3: before four am.
Speaker 2: Now I've exclusively reported today that Muhammad was about to
Speaker 2: leave Australia.
Speaker 3: He was booked on a flight.
Speaker 2: To Thailand when New South Wales police swooped in and
Speaker 2: made that dramatic arrest at Sydney Airport. I can also
Speaker 2: reveal that Muhammad has a Hesbala tattoo on the side
Speaker 2: of his neck. He has another neck tattoo as well
Speaker 2: with the numbers three one three. This is I'm told
Speaker 2: of reference to another terrorist group symbol. I'm advised the
Speaker 2: number three one three is significant in Shea Islam and it.
Speaker 3: Is associated with Hesbela.
Speaker 2: So an apparent Hesbela supporter allegedly went on this anti
Speaker 2: Semitic rampage in Sydney's East and he's been charged with
Speaker 2: twenty one offenses.
Speaker 3: This is scary stuff.
Speaker 2: A man who has a terror symbol tattooed on his neck, well,
Speaker 2: you'd hope that he would have been the focus of
Speaker 2: counter terror police before this.
Speaker 3: We don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2: Mohammed Farat didn't apply for bail and it wasn't granted today.
Speaker 2: He'll be back in court in early December. Now he
Speaker 2: allegedly did an act alone. We know from CCTV you're
Speaker 2: looking at it now that at least one other person
Speaker 2: was allegedly on the rampage that night, and my sources
Speaker 2: tell me we can expect.
Speaker 3: Another arrest in the near future.
Speaker 2: But what we've seen today this is the best case
Speaker 2: where police acted fast, very fast to catch an alleged
Speaker 2: perpetrator of anti Semitic violence. And there are two reasons
Speaker 2: for this amazingly successful outcome. Firstly, New Southwal's police, under
Speaker 2: the direction of Premier Chris Mins through resources at this
Speaker 2: They moved extra police onto this strike force, even i'm
Speaker 2: told bringing in officers from regional New South Wales.
Speaker 3: But secondly, I'm.
Speaker 2: Told that the alleged perpetrators allegedly left items at the
Speaker 2: scene that helped police identify them.
Speaker 3: There were also other factors.
Speaker 2: That helped police, either DNA or fingerprints. We'll know those
Speaker 2: details as it goes through the court process in time,
Speaker 2: but we can only thank the New Southeal's government and
Speaker 2: the police for acting so quickly in this instance. It
Speaker 2: shows what can be done when there's political will and
Speaker 2: that is what has been missing, and we need more
Speaker 2: of it because I'm seeing more and more vile racism
Speaker 2: towards Jews, like this incident.
Speaker 3: That took place in Townsville over the weekend.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's incredibly distressing in twenty twenty four from
Speaker 2: a shopkeeper in regional New South Wales. And it's why
Speaker 2: rabbis are now feeling the need to publicly speak up
Speaker 2: to implore leaders like Anthony Albineasi to act. Here were
Speaker 2: two rabbis on Sky News tonight.
Speaker 5: He is the leader of the country and therefore prime responsibility,
Speaker 5: I'm afraid, has to rest with him. That's what leadership is.
Speaker 5: I think he's a man of goodwill. I don't think
Speaker 5: he's malicious, but I think he has fallen short in
Speaker 5: exercising the clarity of the leadership which is needed this time.
Speaker 6: The messaging has to be very clear, unequivocal, and the
Speaker 6: consequences have very clear and unequivocal, because otherwise who knows
Speaker 6: where this will end.
Speaker 2: So Daniel Rabin from Melbourne Benjamin Elton from Sydney, both
Speaker 2: speaking out for very diplomatic rabbis to have to speak
Speaker 2: out like this, it shows how dire. The situation is
Speaker 2: we all need to speak up Jews and non Jews alike,
Speaker 2: especially non Jews, to demand Alban Easy and Penny Wang
Speaker 2: and Tony Burke do better. The more we stand up
Speaker 2: to them, the more we speak out, the more we
Speaker 2: can ensure change.
Speaker 3: All Right, lots to come tonight.
Speaker 2: I've got international human rights lawyer Hillel Noyer on a
Speaker 2: bit later. Ross Greenwood is also going to join me
Speaker 2: to discuss how Australia has become the world's biggest cost
Speaker 2: of living loser. Graham Richardson and David Gazzard also coming
Speaker 2: up later. But now let's bring in Sky News host
Speaker 2: Steve Price and also Joe he would around our Monday
Speaker 2: regular Great to see him, Steve. Before we get to Joe,
Speaker 2: I just quickly want to start with those revelations that
Speaker 2: I've had today on the Sky News website that a
Speaker 2: Hasbela supporter was allegedly behind this rampage we saw in Sydney,
Speaker 2: someone who I'm told by police sources has the Hasbela
Speaker 2: signed tattooed on his neck.
Speaker 3: I mean, you'd.
Speaker 2: Hope someone like that would have been the focus of
Speaker 2: counter terror police.
Speaker 6: You would have thought he would have been at the
Speaker 6: top of the list, charring. I mean, he's out at
Speaker 6: Sydney Airport trying to flee the country. I mean, maybe
Speaker 6: we would have been better off letting him flee the country,
Speaker 6: but you just don't. You have to wonder where our
Speaker 6: counterterrorism forces are at that they don't know that a
Speaker 6: person like this is potentially.
Speaker 3: Able to do what he did.
Speaker 6: Allegedly, what happened in the eastern suburbs of Sydney was
Speaker 6: just outrageous and shocking and it's scared lot of people.
Speaker 6: And let's hope that the due course of the law
Speaker 6: takes its course and they throw the book at him
Speaker 6: because this is obviously clearly a dangerous individual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, all right, and that's all Allegedly he's under investigation.
Speaker 2: Police have made those claims. We haven't seen his rebuttal yet. Joe,
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the Misinformation Bill. This
Speaker 2: is something we've all been campaigning on. The Prime Minister
Speaker 2: has now been forced to dump this controversial legislation. It
Speaker 2: didn't have support from anyone in the Senate. The Coalition
Speaker 2: was against it, the Greens were against it, the Crossbench
Speaker 2: were against it. I mean, it was madness to think that.
Speaker 2: For a year and a half he pursued this.
Speaker 3: I mean, you've got to say it's his obsession with censorship.
Speaker 7: Look, I don't actually think so. I think that the
Speaker 7: story is a bit more complex than that.
Speaker 2: Because he was so angry about the Voice, and what
Speaker 2: he got was misoxformation against there was.
Speaker 7: I think there was a big problem with elements on
Speaker 7: the left who were upset that the Electric didn't just
Speaker 7: do what it was and anyone who you know, they
Speaker 7: can't say that all the people who vote against the
Speaker 7: Voice where you working class immigrants, which they were, because
Speaker 7: that would make them sound classiest and racist, and so
Speaker 7: they had to say, oh, they weren't educated enough, and
Speaker 7: so we have to educate them. We have to protect
Speaker 7: them from this misinformation similar stuff to COVID as well.
Speaker 7: So I think it came from an incredibly pretentious but
Speaker 7: well intentioned place, but it very very quickly became apparent
Speaker 7: that this thing was at Pandora's box.
Speaker 3: It needed to.
Speaker 7: Die, and die quickly. I've never seen a policy pursued
Speaker 7: with less enthusiasm than this one. They made no attempt,
Speaker 7: basically to get it through the Senate, no attempt to
Speaker 7: negotiate because they wanted it to die.
Speaker 8: They knew how harmless it was, how hopeless it was.
Speaker 7: I wrote in a column today that this bill died
Speaker 7: as friendless as an ayatola at a bar mitzvah, and
Speaker 7: that's exactly what it did. It had no friends on
Speaker 7: either side of politics. And I can absolutely assure you
Speaker 7: that this is something that for weeks now, if not longer,
Speaker 7: the government has just been sort of waiting to die
Speaker 7: and just get off the books, get off the decks,
Speaker 7: something that they're going to resurrected, not something they were
Speaker 7: desperate to do. They realized very quickly. I think that
Speaker 7: this raised so many questions, created more problems than it solved,
Speaker 7: and it was just an island of doctor Morow monster.
Speaker 2: Steve, I want to ask you about my opening comments
Speaker 2: as well about the cost of living and how dramatically
Speaker 2: our country is deteriorating under Anthony Albanezi. You know, whether
Speaker 2: it's his misguided attempts to introduce misinformation laws because he
Speaker 2: didn't like the outcome of the Voice and he blamed misinformation,
Speaker 2: whether it's you know, most critically, the cost of living crisis,
Speaker 2: but every single thing he's doing is turning voters off.
Speaker 6: The story in The Australian on Saturday really shocked me.
Speaker 6: I mean to read that our standard of living is
Speaker 6: now back where we were in the nineteen fifties, that
Speaker 6: it's much worse than recessions that particularly Joe and I've
Speaker 6: lived through and you have two partly Shari and you know,
Speaker 6: the early eighties and the nineties. That is shocking to read.
Speaker 6: And Australians are really hurting. I mean, you know, politicians
Speaker 6: in this country, and I've been thinking about this all
Speaker 6: day to day, politicians are both sides in this country
Speaker 6: are starting to really annoy me because many of them,
Speaker 6: not all of them, but many of them are completely
Speaker 6: out of touch with what's happening in the real world.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: People might say that I'm out of touch because you know,
Speaker 6: I'm reasonably well paid and you know I'm at the
Speaker 6: end of my working life, but I'm not a politician
Speaker 6: is trying to steer the country to a better place.
Speaker 6: And every other OECD country, and my great mate Ross Green,
Speaker 6: but I'm sure we'll tell you this later, every other
Speaker 6: OECD country is doing better than Australia. How can that
Speaker 6: possibly be with all the riches we've got, with everything
Speaker 6: we've got at our disposal, with all the advantages we
Speaker 6: have over the rest of the world, how can we
Speaker 6: be sitting here in twenty twenty four going worse. We're
Speaker 6: a bust at ask country at the moment and it's
Speaker 6: really really hurting people and it's really disturbing. I think
Speaker 6: it's I mean, the Labor Party are going to have
Speaker 6: to really rue the day I think that they put
Speaker 6: Anthony Albanesi in charge. You made those comments at the
Speaker 6: start of your program. I agree entirely. The Bloker probably
Speaker 6: should still have been there is the Bloker gave his
Speaker 6: valedictory speech to Parliament last week in Bill Shorten because
Speaker 6: Labour's done is they've installed a hard left prime minister,
Speaker 6: he's got a hard left foreign minister exactly, and the
Speaker 6: Australian public are going, we are no better off and
Speaker 6: these people that are blame.
Speaker 3: Well, I couldn't agree with you more.
Speaker 2: I mean alban Easy pretended that he was going to
Speaker 2: lead from the center. I mean he gave that interview
Speaker 2: to you, Joey order Brand in the election campaign where
Speaker 2: he said he wasn't going to go woke like, indicating
Speaker 2: he was becoming a centrist.
Speaker 3: But ultimately you can't abandon.
Speaker 2: And he has been a left faction warrior his entire
Speaker 2: political career.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he's been a fixer more than a
Speaker 7: factional fixer, and a factional WARLORDO ideological more than an ideological,
Speaker 7: To be honest, I don't think if you know the
Speaker 7: sort of hard heads who knock around Sussex Street, they're
Speaker 7: not a particularly sort of ideological has been ideologically.
Speaker 3: He was at the protest.
Speaker 7: I know, I know the footage of the protest, and
Speaker 7: you know, back then he would have been expected to
Speaker 7: say certain things. Look, he certainly believes that he has
Speaker 7: moved to the center, is far more to the center
Speaker 7: than he has ever been, and just light years, light
Speaker 7: years away from where he was. Look, I was a
Speaker 7: stupid student socialist when I was younger, and now.
Speaker 8: I've got half of Twitter one now.
Speaker 7: But I think, I think what what Alban is he
Speaker 7: has learned is that every time he sort of dips
Speaker 7: his toe in the water of anything perceived as ideological
Speaker 7: or wokeness, it hurts very very much, and you get
Speaker 7: burned and you get punished for it. And we saw
Speaker 7: that with the Voice, and again he was you know
Speaker 7: he responded by dumping all that stuff like a hot potato,
Speaker 7: by talking about nothing but.
Speaker 2: Cost introducing misinformation laws.
Speaker 7: Letting letting those letting those laws are on the line
Speaker 7: and die.
Speaker 3: No one is morning in June last year.
Speaker 7: He fought for them for a year and they have
Speaker 7: been They've been sitting in a back room quietly asphyxiating
Speaker 7: ever since.
Speaker 6: And the come on, I love you like a brother, Joe,
Speaker 6: but seriously, seriously, Mae Becaho's the cheerleading going to stop.
Speaker 7: I'm just trying to provide some context for it. So
Speaker 7: again I've heard you're not. I've been highly.
Speaker 6: Sticking up for your mate.
Speaker 7: I've been incredibly critical of Labor, and basically for the
Speaker 7: last three years of Labor being in opposition, I was
Speaker 7: screaming from rooftop like me and Joel Fits given both publicly.
Speaker 7: We have got to ditch all that woe crap. We've
Speaker 7: got to get the party back from rapped when Donald
Speaker 7: Trump won the election, because it means the Democrats have
Speaker 7: to do the same and learn what happens when they
Speaker 7: start to go on ideological crusades and have steering elites
Speaker 7: talking down to work.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the Barley Nine.
Speaker 2: There's now a controversy over the Albanese government's decision to
Speaker 2: bring the remaining Ballei nine members who are in prison
Speaker 2: back to Australia. This is the deal done with the
Speaker 2: Indonesian government. Now the coalition has demanded to know what
Speaker 2: was given in exchange.
Speaker 9: Have a look what is the deal? What is he
Speaker 9: extracted in relation for the deal? What is Australia giving
Speaker 9: up in relation to the deal? How much is it
Speaker 9: going to cost the Australian taxpayer? Will they continue to
Speaker 9: serve their prison sentences because they have been sentenced to
Speaker 9: life imprisonment in Indonesia?
Speaker 2: Once again Albanezy government refusing to answer. No transparency, another
Speaker 2: broken promise. Steve Price, what's your view on this? Do
Speaker 2: you think they've done their time? I mean it was
Speaker 2: two thousand and five. I was a reporter covering it
Speaker 2: at the time.
Speaker 3: Do you think they've done their time or do you reckon?
Speaker 2: You know, there's no reason for Australia to spend money
Speaker 2: bringing them back here.
Speaker 6: I was on the air on radio the night the
Speaker 6: two ring leaders were executed and that was a horrible
Speaker 6: thing to have to witness. But these people were trying
Speaker 6: to bring from memory something like eight Kilo's a heroin
Speaker 6: back into Australia. And they were a variety of involvement
Speaker 6: in it by all of them, but that's what they were.
Speaker 6: They were going to be heroin traffickers. They were stupid people.
Speaker 6: I mean the Australian Federal Police tipped off the Indonesians,
Speaker 6: as you know, and that's why this crowd got arrested.
Speaker 6: I'd just like to have one question answered by the government.
Speaker 6: Why are we doing this? I mean, where was what's
Speaker 6: the hurry and the Russian? Where did the idea that
Speaker 6: we needed to do it come from? Who's pushing for this?
Speaker 6: What were you know, what is Indonesia getting in return
Speaker 6: for us taking these people off their hands? And I
Speaker 6: think Micaulia Cash is right to ask all those questions,
Speaker 6: none of which we got an answer to.
Speaker 2: I think we do need to know the answers to
Speaker 2: those questions before we can form a proper judgment Joean
Speaker 2: whether or not this is a good thing in our
Speaker 2: national interest.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Look, I mean I don't think it's not particularly uncommon
Speaker 7: for Indonesia to they hand out extremely punitive sentences, including
Speaker 7: death for these offenses and again, Steve's absolutely right. You know,
Speaker 7: trafficking heroine isn't a victimless crime. It results in hundreds
Speaker 7: and hundreds of debts and it's an absolutely horrible drug.
Speaker 7: But you know, as with the case with Chappelle Krby,
Speaker 7: often what happens is you get, if not a life sentence,
Speaker 7: then a giant sense of say thirty years or something,
Speaker 7: and then on the President's birthday or a certain public holidays,
Speaker 7: the President, in his great merciful beneficence, will you grant
Speaker 7: an active clemency or mercy and reduce it. And again
Speaker 7: it's not unprecedented for people to come from Indonesia and
Speaker 7: other Southeast Asian countries and finish the rest of their
Speaker 7: senses in Australia. I'm not sure if it's that big
Speaker 7: a deal. I don't know if it even would have
Speaker 7: got to a midiserial level. Apart from just sort of
Speaker 7: signing it off, there would have been consular officials working
Speaker 7: behind the scenes. My sister was one of the people
Speaker 7: in Defata was trying to stop the Bali nine members
Speaker 7: from being executed. We all know how that went.
Speaker 8: But again.
Speaker 7: Without sort of saying too much, but there is always
Speaker 7: work going on behind the scenes trying to get these out.
Speaker 7: And again I didn't see it coming. This was not
Speaker 7: on my twenty twenty four being go yeah no.
Speaker 2: But once again yeah, no mention of any of this
Speaker 2: before it happens. Joe hud Around, Steve Price, thank you
Speaker 2: so much for joining me.
Speaker 7: Thanks.
Speaker 3: Now I want to take you back to Melbourne.
Speaker 2: Now we know that the pro Palestinian protesters were told
Speaker 2: not to turn up to the synagogue in Crawfield tonight.
Speaker 2: This protest was canceled. The Victorian government stepped in to
Speaker 2: take action today and yet we're hearing, and you've been
Speaker 2: seeing on Andrew Bolt that protesters did turn up.
Speaker 3: Let's go live to the scene.
Speaker 2: Now we've got Sky News reporter Georgie Dickerson on the ground.
Speaker 2: So Georgie, what do you know about how many pro
Speaker 2: Palestinians ignored the ruling that they should be canceled and
Speaker 2: turned up anyway.
Speaker 10: Good evening, Sharry, Well, around twenty.
Speaker 11: People from my county is the number of pro Palestinian
Speaker 11: protesters that did turn up. We arrived here around six
Speaker 11: o'clock tonight outside the synagogue here in Courtfield.
Speaker 10: And there was a slowly the level and the number.
Speaker 11: Of the Jewish community started to turn up, and it
Speaker 11: seemed as if there was going.
Speaker 10: To be okay.
Speaker 11: It seemed as if for the first hour or so
Speaker 11: that the pro Palestinian protesters were going to abide by
Speaker 11: what they had said. They said that they had canceled
Speaker 11: the protests and they weren't going to turn up. But
Speaker 11: that was when we saw a mass running of some
Speaker 11: of the Jewish community down to around halfway off this street,
Speaker 11: and that is when we saw around twenty of those
Speaker 11: pro Palestine protests. The Jewish community was yelling at them,
Speaker 11: saying go home, go home, And at the moment they
Speaker 11: have gone home. This is a situation that it looks
Speaker 11: like at the moment we've gone a large turnout of
Speaker 11: members of the Jewish community. They have been extremely peaceful.
Speaker 11: They have been playing songs, they have been dancing. Obviously,
Speaker 11: some of the Instagram posts that we had seen from
Speaker 11: some of the pro Palestine groups claimed that the Jewish
Speaker 11: community was going to be violent. They say that was
Speaker 11: never going to be the case. I spoke to so
Speaker 11: many people here tonight and they say that they feel
Speaker 11: like they've already been pushed out of the city. There's
Speaker 11: pro Palestine protests every single weekend on the steps of
Speaker 11: Parliament and they say, now these groups are coming into
Speaker 11: their backyards somewhere where they.
Speaker 10: Should feel safe. We've seen vision of one person being arrested.
Speaker 11: We're unsure exactly what reason that was for, but at
Speaker 11: the moment it's.
Speaker 10: Remaining calm here. There is a large police presence here tonight, Shari.
Speaker 11: To ensure that it did escalate, that they would be
Speaker 11: on hand to stop that from escalating any further.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I just want to pick up
Speaker 2: in the comment you made there where you've spoken to
Speaker 2: people who say that they feel that they can't go
Speaker 2: into the city anymore, especially not on the weekend. And look,
Speaker 2: that's the same in Sydney as well. When you have
Speaker 2: thousand strong pro Palestinian protests every weekend in the city,
Speaker 2: you know that takes out areas that as a Jew
Speaker 2: you can go. So I hear what the people are
Speaker 2: telling you. And now that this protest was going to
Speaker 2: come once again outside of synagogue, we know that that
Speaker 2: already happened in Melbourne.
Speaker 3: There was also.
Speaker 2: Vandalism on a synagogue in Sydney.
Speaker 3: I mean, it.
Speaker 2: Moves to a point where it becomes intimidation when it's
Speaker 2: outside a place of worship.
Speaker 3: What do you think.
Speaker 10: Exactly right there, Shari.
Speaker 11: Even when we were speaking to some of these people
Speaker 11: the Melbourne Burke Street Christmas decorations out the front of Maya,
Speaker 11: they were forced to cancel the opening because pro Palestine
Speaker 11: groups wanted to protest out there, saying that these people
Speaker 11: were complicit in genocide.
Speaker 10: And speaking to some of the people here on the ground.
Speaker 11: Today, they say, you know, people should be able to
Speaker 11: enjoy Christmas, they should be able to enjoy these happy moments,
Speaker 11: but instead they're being shut down, and they feel it's
Speaker 11: almost an empty threat.
Speaker 10: They are claiming that they're.
Speaker 11: Going to come here, they are inflicting this fear.
Speaker 10: But then on the other hand, they turn around and
Speaker 10: say that they're going to cancel the protest.
Speaker 11: So it feels like the damage has already been done
Speaker 11: when they're making these threats time and time again, and
Speaker 11: you know, people own backyards don't feel safe. But right
Speaker 11: now it seems like the moon has certainly lifted.
Speaker 10: There is songs and dancing happening.
Speaker 11: Everyone that drives past basically beeping their horns in support
Speaker 11: of the Jewish community that is out here. Tonight, So
Speaker 11: for now it looks like it's all bit over. We
Speaker 11: can't see any signs of those pro Palestine protesters. There
Speaker 11: was a small scuffle just down there before. It looked
Speaker 11: like there was another small couple of people from that
Speaker 11: group coming forward, but they were quickly shoot away by
Speaker 11: a mass group of Jewish community and a mass group
Speaker 11: of police that were quickly on the forefront down there.
Speaker 2: Sharry, Well, Georgie, thank you so much for the news update.
Speaker 2: You've done a terrific job all night and good to
Speaker 2: see the joyous spirit their Jews reclaiming their streets outside
Speaker 2: of synagogue.
Speaker 3: There should be no protests, Thanks Georgie. Now still to come.
Speaker 2: SeaBus Chairman Wayne Swann snubs the Senate committee that's investigating
Speaker 2: the Funds customer service scandal. I'm going to discuss that
Speaker 2: with Russ Greenwood next. Plus the Deputy Prime Minister faces
Speaker 2: a potentially DMN in court battle after his chief of
Speaker 2: staff launch legal action over bullying claims. Well, will the
Speaker 2: left media launch an anti women campaign now against Labor?
Speaker 2: I'll chat about that with my panel a bit later.
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
Speaker 2: Well, as we've been speaking about tonight, Australians are experiencing
Speaker 2: the sharpest decline in cost of living standards since the
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen and our living standards have fallen by eight
Speaker 2: point seven percent. It's higher than during the recession in
Speaker 2: the eighties or the nineties. At the same time, the
Speaker 2: government is being accused of raiding the Future Fund for
Speaker 2: its political pet projects, and voters are pretty angry about
Speaker 2: all this. Will Sky News Business editor Ross Greenwood, I'm
Speaker 2: thrilled to say, joins me here now.
Speaker 3: Ross.
Speaker 2: We'll get to Wayne Swann and the Future Fund in
Speaker 2: a minute, but I want to start with this report
Speaker 2: that we've seen on the weekend that our living standards
Speaker 2: are now worse than in the fifties.
Speaker 3: Can you talk us about why this is so.
Speaker 12: What's happened is inflation in Australia has really hurt people.
Speaker 3: But it's not just that.
Speaker 12: It's the amount of tax that the government is taken
Speaker 12: out of people's pockets that has risen. So the government
Speaker 12: tax take right now is at a record level and
Speaker 12: he's only going to get higher from here. So while
Speaker 12: the good news is that people have got jobs in Australia,
Speaker 12: people need to have jobs because if the unemployment rate
Speaker 12: were to arise ays save in the Reserve Banks suggests
Speaker 12: by the end of this year should be four and
Speaker 12: a half percent. It's four point one percent. Now you've
Speaker 12: put another one hundred thousand families or without an income.
Speaker 12: You've got some real economic problems that the Albanezi government
Speaker 12: would have to face. Now. The fact is that they're
Speaker 12: taking record amounts of tax out despite the fact that
Speaker 12: we have got almost near record low unemployment rates, and
Speaker 12: so the real pressure on families is coming from all
Speaker 12: of the costs and from interest rates staying too high
Speaker 12: for too long because inflation hasn't come down quickly. So
Speaker 12: this is the real problem for Australia families. They need
Speaker 12: two incomes in capital cities to be able to afford mortgages,
Speaker 12: to be able to afford the cost of living, and
Speaker 12: so there is real pressure on families right now. They
Speaker 12: feel it very much, so, especially if a job is
Speaker 12: lost or if a marriage busts up. There where the
Speaker 12: real pain points will come into the future.
Speaker 2: And then you look at how Australia compares with other
Speaker 2: OECD nations already now but also the forecasts, and you
Speaker 2: know we're just worse.
Speaker 12: So go back pre pandemic disposable incomes in Australia have
Speaker 12: fallen by two percent. The average of the other OECD
Speaker 12: countries has them rising by seven point seven percent. So
Speaker 12: you see the real issue here is that in Australia
Speaker 12: there is a fundamental problem now though Australia has not
Speaker 12: slipped into an official recession two consecutive quarters where the
Speaker 12: economy goes backwards, which other nations did, because they pushed
Speaker 12: interest rates up faster and as a result now taking
Speaker 12: pressure off by cutting interest rates, like for how long
Speaker 12: we'll find out here at Australia, they took a different course.
Speaker 12: They really the government and the Reserve Bank then trying
Speaker 12: to keep as many people in jobs as possible by
Speaker 12: basically keeping interstrates not as high as others. Didn't plunge
Speaker 12: the economy in recession, but guess what happened the individual
Speaker 12: the household has been in recession for months and months
Speaker 12: and months now, and that's what consumers are feeling. That's
Speaker 12: what people are feeling. That's the reason why you've got
Speaker 12: restaurants going out of business around Australia right now, because
Speaker 12: people do not have the disposable income to be able
Speaker 12: to go out and spend on those types of luxuries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the per capita recession and it's just immigration really that's.
Speaker 3: Helped batch up the overall figures.
Speaker 2: Now I want to ask you about CBS chairman Wayne Swann.
Speaker 3: Now, this is a big scandal.
Speaker 12: The former federal treasurer, the euro money Treasurer of the
Speaker 12: year or Finance Minister of the year at one stage.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, indeed, as he liked to tell everyone, the best
Speaker 2: treasurer in the world. Now he has been called to
Speaker 2: appear in front of a Senate committee that's investigating the
Speaker 2: allegations that sibus mishandled the death and disability payouts. Now
Speaker 2: we're told that he quote and I'm quoting here, that
Speaker 2: he would not be in a position to add anything
Speaker 2: further to the areas of particular interest to the committee
Speaker 2: at this time. Surely he should appear USS, given he's
Speaker 2: the chairman.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 12: SeaBus is one of Australia's biggest superannuation funds. It has
Speaker 12: ninety four billion dollars that it manages and it has
Speaker 12: nine hundred and twenty thousand members, so it represents a
Speaker 12: lot of Australia. Now, just one little side to this
Speaker 12: is that SeaBus actually also runs the Media Super the
Speaker 12: Superannuation Fund, so Media Super, which I used to be
Speaker 12: the chairman of the Investment Committee and I was a
Speaker 12: director of for years, so I know a little bit
Speaker 12: about this. But what's happened is there's two things that
Speaker 12: are going Number one is, and this is the issue
Speaker 12: that you're pointing out, is that sea Bus basically is
Speaker 12: said by ASSEK, the Australian corporate regulator, that they mishandled
Speaker 12: almost one hundred thousand people who came forward with claims
Speaker 12: for either insurance, life insurance or disability insurance. In actual fact,
Speaker 12: what happened was at SeaBus not get back to them
Speaker 12: in a prompt and timely manner as they're supposed to
Speaker 12: do within ninety days. So as a result there's something
Speaker 12: in the administration of that fund that has not gone well.
Speaker 12: But then secondarly, this is another issue, a separate issue
Speaker 12: which has come up, and this is as a result
Speaker 12: of its close alliance with the CFMAU, clearly one of
Speaker 12: the most milletant unions. Now the Victorian branch of the
Speaker 12: CFMEU has been sent into administration and as a result,
Speaker 12: three members of Seabas who are appointed by the union
Speaker 12: have had to quit, one of whom is Dave noonan
Speaker 12: very well known union is he did not go willingly.
Speaker 12: But what they've done is they put other members into place,
Speaker 12: as they're entitled to do. One of those is Paddy Crumlin,
Speaker 12: who is the former head of the Maritime Union, right
Speaker 12: one of the most milleant unions in Australia. And there
Speaker 12: are question marks about the appropriousness of the directors that
Speaker 12: have been appointed to this board. So Wayne Swan right
Speaker 12: now is grappling with one issue on administration, but they
Speaker 12: did not pay out the.
Speaker 3: Life actual crisis as well.
Speaker 12: And then they've got the other crisis that comes from
Speaker 12: the collapse of the CFMU see ciebus. Being one of
Speaker 12: our most powerful unions tells businesses how they should behave
Speaker 12: and how they should react. And right now inside that
Speaker 12: superannuation fund they have their own crisis in terms of
Speaker 12: governance and culture and the way in which they should
Speaker 12: behave and whether they have behaved appropriately, which is now
Speaker 12: being investigated not only by the Superannuation Regulator APRA, but
Speaker 12: also by the Corporate Regulator ASSEX. So this is pretty serious.
Speaker 3: And set an inquiry to top it off.
Speaker 12: That's right in cops I should tell you about a
Speaker 12: quarter of a million bucks a year for being the
Speaker 12: chair of that super fun.
Speaker 2: He definitely needs to front up if he's getting paid
Speaker 2: that sort of money. All right, Russ Greenwood, we'll talk
Speaker 2: about future fund next time, because I know you're an
Speaker 2: expert on that as well.
Speaker 3: Thanks for her. Now still to come.
Speaker 2: The ICC's deeply disturbing decision to issue arrest warrants for
Speaker 2: Nada Yahoo has shocked well everyone except for Penny one.
Speaker 2: I'm going to speak about her pathetic response with international
Speaker 2: human rights lawyer Killel Noyer next, plus the claims of
Speaker 2: bullying by Richard Miles, chief of staff. I talk about
Speaker 2: that with my panel a bit later. Well, Pennywog has
Speaker 2: been grilled over the Albanese government's response to the International
Speaker 2: Criminal Court's decision to issue a rest warrants for Neda Yahoo.
Speaker 2: She was asked why Australia is out of step with
Speaker 2: our biggest ally, the US.
Speaker 13: Here she was I have made clear many times in
Speaker 13: this place that all parties to the conflict must comply
Speaker 13: with international law, and I again say we respect the
Speaker 13: independence of the International Criminal Court and its important role
Speaker 13: in upholding international law.
Speaker 3: It's now clear.
Speaker 2: Australia should leave the ICC immediately and we should leave Pennywong.
Speaker 3: Behind US Foreign Minister too.
Speaker 2: The ICC and Pennywog are both utterly discredited on this issue.
Speaker 2: The ICC issued a warrant for Hamas leader Muhamma Dave.
Speaker 2: He's presumed dead, and also that move puts Israel on
Speaker 2: power with a terror group, lumping Israel's right to defend
Speaker 2: itself from Hamas on power with the October seven massacre itself.
Speaker 2: Now Israeli Prime Minister Etta Yahoo has responded.
Speaker 3: To all of this.
Speaker 2: He said he's deeply concerned at the anti semitism of
Speaker 2: the ICC.
Speaker 1: The antisemitic decision of the International Court in the Heague
Speaker 1: is a modern Dreyfous trial and it will end the
Speaker 1: same way. One hundred and thirty years ago, the French
Speaker 1: Jewish officer Alfred Dreyfus was falsely accused of treason by
Speaker 1: a biased French court.
Speaker 2: As I've outlined before, Israel has not committed war crimes,
Speaker 2: It has not starved children. Israel has gone above and
Speaker 2: beyond to make sure civilians are protected. It's Hamas and
Speaker 2: Hamas alone that continues to put innocent Palestinians in harm's way,
Speaker 2: but again showing how warped the Albanezy government is. It
Speaker 2: also refused just on Thursday night, a visa to former
Speaker 2: Israeli Minister Aolette Shaket, an upstanding advocate of Israel who
Speaker 2: has family here in Australia. Well, Pennywong had no problems
Speaker 2: fast tracking literally thousands of visas to Gazans from a
Speaker 2: war zone controlled by terrorists. This government couldn't get any worse.
Speaker 2: I'm joined now by un Watch Executive director and international
Speaker 2: human rights lawyer Hillel Noya.
Speaker 3: Hillel, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Once again. Look, I want to start with the ICC decision.
Speaker 2: Can you explain to my audience why its accusations against
Speaker 2: Israel are horrifically wrong.
Speaker 14: Look, the International Criminal Court in the Hague has issued
Speaker 14: arrest warrance for Israel's Prime minister its former defense minister
Speaker 14: on the accusation that they committed war crimes by depriving
Speaker 14: Palestinians of humanitarian aid. But the facts show the very opposite.
Speaker 14: The facts are that since the war, Israel has facilitated
Speaker 14: into Gaza. Again. This is a territory from which Hamas
Speaker 14: waged war, launched an invasion On October seventh, there was
Speaker 14: a ceasefire in place for a couple of years, Hamas
Speaker 14: launched an invasion, massacred twelve hundred Israelis in front of
Speaker 14: their family members, dragged in some two hundred and fifty
Speaker 14: Israelis and many of whom are still being held as hostages.
Speaker 14: Despite that Israel has facilitated into Gaza in the past
Speaker 14: year twenty seven thousand tons of medical aid, fifty one
Speaker 14: thousand tons of water, eighty five thousand tons of shelter equipment,
Speaker 14: and eight hundred and seventy thousand tons of food aid.
Speaker 14: So the notion that Israel's leaders are depriving gasms of
Speaker 14: humanitarian aid is manifestly false and frankly shows the depth
Speaker 14: to which this once respected court has now descended, and
Speaker 14: it joins the club of other international entities such as
Speaker 14: the Human Rights Council, where I'm based in Geneva, which
Speaker 14: was founded by Eleanor Roosevelt and Reniequssin eminent figures of
Speaker 14: human rights, and today includes the Chinese communist regime, the
Speaker 14: qatar whose Katari regime that sponsors terrorists, the Cuban police state,
Speaker 14: and other dictators. So sadly an institution meant to protect
Speaker 14: international justice has joined a very nefarious club.
Speaker 2: Hello, can you tell us about your revelation that a
Speaker 2: secret Lebanon meeting has occurred between a former UNRAK Commissioner
Speaker 2: general and also some terrorist organizations?
Speaker 3: What can you tell us?
Speaker 14: Look, Sherry, you and watch as a massed a dosia
Speaker 14: a massive trove of evidence documenting how UNRA leaders, including
Speaker 14: the former leader Pierre Crahenbul and the current leader Felipe Lazarini,
Speaker 14: how they routinely meet with terrorist leaders from Hamas, from
Speaker 14: the Islamic Ghead and other terrorist groups including Asbat al Ansar,
Speaker 14: which is an al Qaeda affiliate. They routinely meet with them,
Speaker 14: whether in Lebanon or Gaza. And we obtained one transcript
Speaker 14: of the meeting where the former Commissioner of UNRA said
Speaker 14: to Hamas and the Jihad we are united. Nothing can
Speaker 14: separate us.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, and yet, Hillel, the Australian government still continues to
Speaker 2: fund ANRA to the tunes of millions of dollars, despite
Speaker 2: the fact that there's mounting and long standing evidence of
Speaker 2: its links to terrorism.
Speaker 3: It's absolutely shocking, Hillel Noya, your reports from U nrot watch.
Speaker 2: Your exposes are always brilliant and I thank you so
Speaker 2: much for your courageous work. Now, don't go anywhere. Richard
Speaker 2: Miles's chief of staff takes him to court. Well, will
Speaker 2: Labor finally deal with the allegations of bullying. I'll discuss
Speaker 2: that after this break with my panel. All Right, lots
Speaker 2: more to cover. Let's bring in former Labor minister Graham
Speaker 2: Richardson and former John Howard advisor David Gazard.
Speaker 3: Great to see you both.
Speaker 2: Look, let's start with Richard Miles, the Deputy Prime Minister.
Speaker 2: He's now staring down the barrel of a court battle,
Speaker 2: his former chief of staff launching legal action against him
Speaker 2: and the Commonwealth and even Albanize his own chief of staff,
Speaker 2: Graham Richardson. How damaging is this going to be?
Speaker 15: Well, it's not going to help, that's for sure. And
Speaker 15: the problem also is one of those things that will
Speaker 15: tend to go on and on and on. Whenever you
Speaker 15: start to get near a court, you know you'll get delays.
Speaker 15: And so I do worry about this. I think this
Speaker 15: is unfortunate and I think that the government should be
Speaker 15: making some extra steps to try and stop it going
Speaker 15: down that path. In a court and sorting it out.
Speaker 2: David Gazard, we saw the campaign against Scott Morrison. Are
Speaker 2: you expecting this to be as lethal against Albin Ezy
Speaker 2: and his government?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 8: I mean I agree with Graham here.
Speaker 16: I mean I think journalists have been very, very incurious
Speaker 16: when it comes to this case after sort of taking
Speaker 16: up the cudgels against the previous government over its perceived
Speaker 16: women's problem. But that's come back to bite them, and
Speaker 16: Graham is absolutely right. This will now drag on in
Speaker 16: the courts because this chief of staff has felt she
Speaker 16: hasn't got the proper hearing, no one has believed her,
Speaker 16: no one has come to her and asked her her view.
Speaker 8: She's indeed been treated.
Speaker 16: Like a lapper by the Labor Party, and so she's
Speaker 16: launched legal action which will now deflect from the government's
Speaker 16: message for the coming weeks and maybe months in front
Speaker 16: of us all the way possibly to the next election.
Speaker 8: So the incuriousness of the Gallery has just.
Speaker 16: Pushed this underground, and so this chief of stuff has
Speaker 16: now gone to.
Speaker 8: The courts for action.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think a labor woman would get more support
Speaker 2: from the press gallery and the Labor Party itself. Now,
Speaker 2: let's have a look at this decision by the Abenezy
Speaker 2: government not to take part in the COP twenty nine
Speaker 2: agreement on nuclear Well. Dennis Shanahan has ridden a great
Speaker 2: piece in The OHS where he says that there's now
Speaker 2: a danger and growing evidence that the government is turning
Speaker 2: the issues of renewable energy and nuclear power from believing
Speaker 2: what it believed, sorry from being what it believed would
Speaker 2: be negatives for Dutton actually into positives for the coalition.
Speaker 3: Graham, what do you think about this?
Speaker 2: Do you think nuclear could actually be something like Dennis
Speaker 2: says that works in Dutton's favor.
Speaker 15: Yeah, Look, I think that there's been a massive change
Speaker 15: of thinking on this. I think if you've went back
Speaker 15: a decade or two, obviously, women in Australia practically to
Speaker 15: a woman, we're against it. And you know that once
Speaker 15: you get that in that means your poles are pretty
Speaker 15: well slanted all the way. But I think that you
Speaker 15: know that attitude has changed. I think there's been plenty
Speaker 15: of demonstrations now that you can have a modular, small,
Speaker 15: modular nuclear power plants that can just look after a
Speaker 15: city or a village whatever. You don't need to have
Speaker 15: the massive power plants to which we've become accustomed. So
Speaker 15: I'd say that this is an issue not to go away.
Speaker 15: And I'd say that Dutton has been ahead on this.
Speaker 15: You know, he's leading on this issue and he's doing well.
Speaker 2: It looked risky, I think risky when Duttin first came
Speaker 2: out with this policy. But David now it's alb and easy,
Speaker 2: that's looking out of step with the international community, and
Speaker 2: voters will be thinking, well, why does he think he's
Speaker 2: smarter than all the other world leaders.
Speaker 16: That's right, there's many other countries that are going down
Speaker 16: this path. As Graham correctly says, I think the real
Speaker 16: structural problem for the Albaneze Labor Party and the Labor
Speaker 16: Government is that they were fine to sign up our
Speaker 16: navy with submarines and sub mariners in nuclear submarines, and
Speaker 16: so you've got a bunch of sailors that are going
Speaker 16: to be sitting on top of a reactor literally while
Speaker 16: while it cruises along underwater. Those same submarines are going
Speaker 16: to be serviced in Australian ports. But yet they're saying
Speaker 16: it's a danger to the health of Australians to have
Speaker 16: other reactors on shore that will deliver a cleaner power,
Speaker 16: and we've of course, we've got tons and tons of uranium.
Speaker 16: So if you're going to crack the seal on submarines
Speaker 16: and sign up to the Orchest agenda with nuclear submarines,
Speaker 16: you can hardly turn around and say well it's unsafe
Speaker 16: if we use the same reactors on land.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And then there's the cost argument.
Speaker 2: But it seems like, well we've heard that the renewable
Speaker 2: energy transition will be just as or if not even
Speaker 2: more costly. And now just before we go, we've seen
Speaker 2: Graham Richardson this warning from business leaders. And remember the
Speaker 2: business community was on board with the Albanesi government. Now
Speaker 2: they're warning that Australians are going to face worse living
Speaker 2: standards and job opportunities.
Speaker 15: Graham, Well, I think I was waiting for them to turn.
Speaker 15: It's not as if the business community is a natural
Speaker 15: ally for the Labor Party, and so anytime you get
Speaker 15: them supporting labor, it's always temporary, it never lasts, and
Speaker 15: this one was never going to last either.
Speaker 3: Well, it's lasted a while so far.
Speaker 2: David Gazard, what do you think of what the CEOs
Speaker 2: actually had to say today?
Speaker 16: Well, it's interesting because I think big business particularly find
Speaker 16: themselves almost friendless across the spectrum. They campaigned in part
Speaker 16: at least for a change of government, and the Coalition
Speaker 16: now are saying, well, we don't owe big business anything.
Speaker 16: If you've got problems with productivity and ir why don't
Speaker 16: you go to the party that you supported to get
Speaker 16: it into government now?
Speaker 8: So I think the Coalition will.
Speaker 16: Try to paint itself as the Party of workers, but
Speaker 16: not the party of big business.
Speaker 8: But Graham's right, that's definitely right, and I think.
Speaker 2: Seen out of time, David Gazard, Graham Richardson, thank you
Speaker 2: for your time. And just quickly before I go tune
Speaker 2: in tomorrow night, I've got one of Donald Trump's key
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