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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitz and Whipper podcast. From teenage

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Speaker 1: Hearthrop to global superstar Robbie Williams has had a wild

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Speaker 1: ride wild Please welcome Robbie.

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Speaker 2: Williams joins Fitz and Whipper.

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Speaker 1: Vertos. Hello, Hello, sexy people. Who's the lovely lady?

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Speaker 3: Hi Robbie, Hi Sarah, this is the beautiful Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Hey Sarah, Good morning, Robbie.

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Speaker 2: Can you just turn your head to the side a

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Speaker 2: little bit. I just wasn't sure if I noticed a

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Speaker 2: bit of Oh there's a mullet that's beautiful, that looks

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Speaker 2: really really good. The mullet is so big here in Australia.

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Speaker 1: It's my AFL mullet. Should I grow a mustache for

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Speaker 1: the AFL?

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Speaker 2: The mustache and mullet sort of worked well together, don't they.

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Speaker 2: It's a combination that you do frequently see in the

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Speaker 1: Robbie, Well, well, here's the thing. It's like I brought

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Speaker 1: this up, that that that they're rocking mullets and mustaches

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Speaker 1: completely on ironically too. It's and like with no sense

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Speaker 1: of irony about it. It's not a joke and no,

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Speaker 1: and I mentioned this in an interview and nobody's faces

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Speaker 1: changed like, yeah, we recognize what you're saying. They were

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Speaker 1: just like we don't even understand what you're on about.

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Speaker 3: Well, see, Robbie, I remember growing up in the eighties

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Speaker 3: with cricketers that our favorite cricketers, Dennis Lilly, Rodney Marsh

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Speaker 3: everyone had mustaches and mullets and mullets were big things

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Speaker 3: back back in the eighties and the early nineties as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were like shaggy mullets. They were like

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Speaker 2: just I've got longer here at the back. These are

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Speaker 2: structured mullets.

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, well yeah, yeah, but that was the eighties,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: I know?

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Speaker 1: But see now it is back.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad you've done it for the IFL Grand

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Speaker 3: Final because I would say around about sixty seventy percent

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Speaker 3: of rugby league players and also AFL players, which you're

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Speaker 3: performing at the AFL Grand Final.

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Speaker 1: His kids just love mullets. Now.

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Speaker 3: My son had a mullet that turned into a rets tail. Wow,

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Speaker 3: he's nine years of age now, he's only just got

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Speaker 3: rid of it, and he can hotwire a car in

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Speaker 3: three seconds. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, I'm totally on board and I shall be

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Speaker 1: applauding my son as he grows his own mullet. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'll work on it before I get to the AFL.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there will be a tosh to a Dennis Lily

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Speaker 1: style tosh. Have you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, Robbie in terms of sport and AFL. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's going to be amazing to have you at the

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Speaker 2: Grand Final. Have you been to the AFL before? I

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Speaker 2: think you have, haven't you?

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Speaker 1: No, I haven't been to I've been to the grounds before.

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Speaker 1: I played a bit of footy with people that have

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Speaker 1: played AFL. This is what I think about the AFL

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Speaker 1: right instantly. There is a lot of sports that bore

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Speaker 1: me to death that I just can't get on board

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Speaker 1: with at all. Instantly AFL comes on TV, i'd say

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty nine on Channel four in the UK,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is a bit of me. And

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Speaker 1: also what is a gelonged? You know? There was all

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Speaker 1: of the names that were just like wow, they do

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Speaker 1: things weird down there. Anyway, this is what I think

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Speaker 1: about AFL. It hasn't stopped being an entertaining game for me.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't stopped being interesting from beginning to end. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's dramatically underserved as a sport. It

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Speaker 1: should be like everybody, yeah, it should be an international game,

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Speaker 1: should be on the tip of everybody's lips, and it

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Speaker 1: should be at least loved and adored as much as

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Speaker 1: rugby league or union is, especially in the UK, and

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Speaker 1: I want to be the man that brings the sport

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Speaker 1: to the rest of the world.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking my two sons to the AFL Grand Final

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Speaker 3: and one of the major reasons is that you're performing, Robbie,

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Speaker 3: but we do. It's our number one sport here. We

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Speaker 3: love it so much. The suburban footag is just as good, Robbie.

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Speaker 3: Where you can park your car in the ground, you

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Speaker 2: Someone scores a goal, stay seated in your car.

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Speaker 3: I used to play for the Porta Lunga cockle Divers.

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Speaker 3: We used to play against the no longer Shoes, the

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Speaker 3: Ranella wine Flies. We had the flag stuff your bush pigs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so terrible is.

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Speaker 3: Some of the best mascots you'll ever see, Robbie Williams.

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Speaker 1: It's it's like what you've just said is completely made

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Speaker 1: up and it actually isn't. And that's why I love Australia.

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Speaker 2: Gone, Robbie in a local town that I lived in.

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Speaker 2: It was the Portagusta pink Bits. Are you kidding?

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Speaker 1: No, the Port Augusta pink Bits.

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Speaker 2: Pink Bits, Yeah, Portagusta pink Bits.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Do you know what that could have been my

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Speaker 1: twenty five twenty five the best pink bit? Wow?

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting countdown?

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Speaker 1: And did song for everyone?

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Speaker 3: Does that mean you're not bringing the family with you,

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Speaker 3: Robbie for this one?

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Speaker 1: No? They unfortunately won't be watching the AFL final, at

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Speaker 1: least not in person.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Robbie, can we I mean when we talk

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Speaker 2: about big shows that you've done, I mean, let's go

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Speaker 2: back to Networth. I've always wanted to know one simple question.

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Speaker 2: If you look at what did you do? Three shows

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Speaker 2: at Nedworth?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Three shows?

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Speaker 2: Three shows and I'll never forget singing it for the

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Speaker 2: first time, thinking this is the most unbelievable thing I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen from an individual on stage with a crowd

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Speaker 2: like I was blown away, and I just kept thinking

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Speaker 2: what do you do afterwards? Like did you celebrate on

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Speaker 2: the first night and just continue on? Or did you

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Speaker 2: have to wait till the last night to blow the

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Speaker 2: roof off? It afterwards.

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Speaker 1: No, not really. I think there was like more things

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Speaker 1: to do, more promo to do, more busy to be.

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Speaker 1: It was, yeah, but here's my thoughts and feelings. This

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Speaker 1: is how my mind kind of operates. I didn't allow

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Speaker 1: myself to celebrate. I was just like, oh, well, this

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Speaker 1: is the top of the hill. All downhill from here. Really,

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Speaker 1: that was basically my thought about the whole thing. Wow,

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Speaker 1: what I was trying to experience and succeed in. I

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Speaker 1: just did what happens now and it's been a slow descent,

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Speaker 1: but I'm still on the hill.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that true?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: The way they say you're going to have more fun

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Speaker 2: you know, on the way up trying to make money

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Speaker 2: than you do actually spending it, because when you get there,

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Speaker 1: Now? What are we doing now? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about.

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Speaker 1: It's called paradise syndrome. I remember that from the from

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Speaker 1: the nineties when Dave Stewart from the Arrhythmics was sort

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Speaker 1: called it paradise syndrome. You get to the top of

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Speaker 1: the mountain and go, is this it? I did, and

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Speaker 1: it was, and that was it. But and that and

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Speaker 2: There's a song in that though, isn't there a paradise syndrome?

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Speaker 1: Is man the song?

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Speaker 3: Hey Robbie, how's the editing going with better Man? The

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Speaker 3: by the bye Peek? Is it going Okay?

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Speaker 1: We did a lot of shooting down in Melbourne, working

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Speaker 1: with an Ossie cast, Ossie crew, Ossie director. Felt at home.

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Speaker 1: Super weird though, you know, because it's a biopic about

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Speaker 1: your life and you're in a makeup chair and the

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Speaker 1: person next to you is playing your dad and the

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Speaker 1: person next one is playing your mom. The person next

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Speaker 1: to them is playing your grandma. And then on on

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Speaker 1: a on a sort of mannequin's head is Howard Donald

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Speaker 1: from Take That Wig three, And then No Joke was

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Speaker 1: Jason Orange from Take That Chin. It's across I think

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Speaker 1: kids next to me, and I'm just thinking things cannot

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Speaker 1: get more surreal than this?

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Speaker 2: How weird?

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Speaker 1: Is that clearly of the of the plot?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I say plot. I know it's your life,

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Speaker 3: but did you have to clear bits with the rest

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Speaker 3: of the boys From Take That It was more.

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Speaker 1: The pink bits that I had to phone up for

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Speaker 1: and if it was okay. But were they happy with

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Speaker 1: And then then being upset and me thinking, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to read this through your eyes. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the film. I speak and think in the way that

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Speaker 1: more naive, I was more resentful. Of course I was

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Speaker 1: be the only arshole in this film. So when I

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Speaker 1: me to portray you a little bit badly. Otherwise it's

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Speaker 1: just me and like, I'm not sitting down for ninety

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, he support me here, Sarah. Sarah does

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Speaker 3: a great entertainment break here. A few weeks ago she

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Speaker 3: told us this story that you were telling about Barbara Straisen,

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Speaker 3: where you ran into Barbara and you had no idea

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Speaker 3: It was so funny, so you had no So what

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Speaker 1: You've just buried the wrong Okay, So yeah, those, let's

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Speaker 1: do that the moments when you really, you know, surreal

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Speaker 1: and this is Todd and hate Todd, and this is

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Speaker 1: this is James and James, Hey James, and this is Barbara.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, bab, pleased to meet you,

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Speaker 1: talking about this charity soccer match that I'm doing, and

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Speaker 1: she then proceeds to think that I used to play

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Speaker 1: for Manchester United, which was like, yeah, that'll do, that'll do.

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Speaker 1: My wife was like, no, no, no, no, he's a singer.

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Speaker 1: And then she looked at me to go she go, ah,

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Speaker 1: that's nice.

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Speaker 2: What an insult would I would have thought there'd be

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Speaker 2: a greater chance she'd know who you were, then you'd

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Speaker 2: know who she was.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, she's you know she's from

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Speaker 1: she's from a different time place. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Does that never happen with anybody else?

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Speaker 1: Frobi, Not that I can think, Oh yeah, there was

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Speaker 1: this one time where I was I was with my

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Speaker 1: She'd gone to the gifting suites. The gifting suites are

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Speaker 1: I don't want any free tats, but my mum loves

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh man, man walking man, famous man,

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Speaker 1: oh Man, famous man, Chris Rock. Oh oh oh, so

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Speaker 1: you're staring at Chris Rock. Now don't stare away. Because

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Speaker 1: you're in the Famous club and if he knows you,

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Speaker 1: he can't be rude. So just keep staring and play

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Speaker 1: this one out and say hello. And by the time

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Speaker 1: I got to that bit, Chris Lowe went what mother

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Speaker 1: I'm staring him out, and I wanted to fight. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't want to appear rude, but in the

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Speaker 1: process not wanting to appear route, I appeared rude. Cut

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Speaker 1: to two months later. I'm at a U two concert, right,

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Speaker 1: and Chris Rock is there with John Cusack, and John

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Speaker 1: Cusack turns around to me and he waves in my direction,

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Speaker 1: he actually waves again, and this time worriedly, and I'm like, nah, mate, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not having this. I know what happened last time

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Speaker 1: with your buddy. No way. Third time he sort of

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Speaker 1: and turns back and I turn around to see who

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Speaker 1: he was waving to, and I was stood next to

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Speaker 1: a wall and he was actually waving with you, and

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Speaker 1: I ignored John Cusack. Prick. Yeah, I just wronged myself

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Speaker 1: in front of Chris Rock and John Cusack. So a

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Speaker 1: message to John Cusack, I'm really really sorry, love you.

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Speaker 1: That is hilarious. What are you steering for? Oh, Robbie Williams.

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Speaker 3: We absolutely adore you. The brand new album twenty five

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Speaker 3: it is out now made.

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Speaker 1: It's so good to see you. We love you, Robbie.

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Speaker 3: We cannot wait to see you for the AFL Grand Final.

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Speaker 3: Bitter Man coming out as well. It's an amazing career,

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Speaker 3: it's an amazing life and we appreciate all the time

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Speaker 3: that we get with you on the show mate.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, God, God bless you all and thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. You're listening to the Fits and Whippo podcast