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Speaker 2: Hawthorne is ready to roll any fitness query settled at

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Speaker 3: We've talked about is this step into it, debrace all.

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Speaker 3: They're on the side of Cautia with the brain, take

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Speaker 1: They played the best footy I've ever seen at the

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Speaker 3: Of course they do. It is the stuff that legends

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Speaker 2: Actually the fans love it and with no fans, no

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Speaker 5: Old, I brought a little something for you Gas, Jared.

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Speaker 5: The modesty, doesn't it doesn't sit well with you Well.

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Speaker 1: Done last night or the Football Media Awards. We were

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Speaker 1: judged the most Outstanding television program of the year. Just

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Speaker 3: Something Ben, isn't it? Well done?

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Speaker 2: Good stuff from Well Done You and I fronted, but

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Speaker 1: It was Anthony Hudson, a judge, the best television call,

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Speaker 1: So last year Jason inducted Sarah, and this year Sarah

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Speaker 1: Right, here's what we've got lined up for you tonight.

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Speaker 1: John Longmight and Adam Simpson have been stella right through

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Speaker 1: Going to join us, the emotional baggage of being a supporter,

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Speaker 1: Midweek Tackle with all the latest news Lauren Wood called

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Speaker 1: the middle Mess and John Ralph, and then tomorrow night,

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Speaker 1: if you really want to go deep, first Crack preview,

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Speaker 1: Ben Dixon, Lee Montagna and David Kin on these.

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Speaker 2: We said here last week we couldn't wait. Well on

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Speaker 3: We know that.

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Speaker 2: So get yourself if you're not at the game, which

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Speaker 3: He's going to come out and have a big saying it.

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Speaker 1: then there's the Hawthorn side of it. And I know

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Speaker 2: Inever I can make the case for Hawthorn, and what's

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Speaker 2: they go in with Gunstan absolute ripping and and Geelong

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Speaker 2: just pull out Cameron and then you go, well, Sisily's

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Speaker 2: then you go, well, what about Weather, He's the most versatile.

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Speaker 2: They gave Blitzers, what about our smalls?

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Speaker 3: Watson again of it more been outstanding.

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Speaker 2: They go close and Stengel and Myers they just have

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Speaker 2: and they go, okay, who do you want?

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Speaker 3: You want Atkins, you wan Ocean, you want Blitzerves, you

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Speaker 2: They're well well served. So I'm not saying they've got

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Speaker 2: point I fell into the trap against the giants on paper.

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Speaker 2: I thought that the class factor might tell they're more

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Speaker 3: So I think this has gone to the wire. Dear

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Speaker 3: nice right is it five hundred? Can we play Trump's Trump?

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Speaker 3: That's what's the best don't get into the bowers. That's right,

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk the prelims with Simo and Horse

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Speaker 1: coming up shortly. The other news the day surrounded Tasmania.

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Speaker 1: So you could take a view today that Tasmania got

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Speaker 1: a certain point of view. The Tasmanian Planning Commission was

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Speaker 1: It simply recommended that the stadium should not be built.

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Speaker 1: So it found objections on the economic fronts, and it

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Speaker 1: in between. So attention turned back to the Tasmanian premiere

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Speaker 1: as to whether he would forge on, and forge on

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Speaker 7: This Report's not unexpected. Parliament will always, as I've said,

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Speaker 7: have their say on this project.

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Speaker 3: I understand some of the concerns.

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Speaker 7: In the community, but this is an opportunity that we

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Speaker 7: can not lose. This is an opportunity for Tasmania's future,

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Speaker 7: and I'm as passionate about it today as I've ever been.

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Speaker 7: I'm not surprised. I knew this would be a very

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Speaker 7: challenging journey, but one.

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Speaker 3: That will be worth the journey in the end.

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Speaker 1: So he's going to hold his numbers together from here

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Speaker 1: to deliver the stadium.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you all the questions of

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Speaker 2: there was bipartisan support for this.

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Speaker 3: Now is it in the hand?

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Speaker 2: Is it too dramatic to say that this whole thing

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Speaker 1: So the first step is to hold bipartisan support. And

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Speaker 1: the labor opposition gave themselves wiggle room today to digest

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Speaker 1: the opposition just wants time to absorb. And what they'll

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Speaker 1: absorb is a report that it illustrates one point eight

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Speaker 1: it underestimates the economic benefits and the chain lifestyle that

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Speaker 1: particularly from the mainland. The other major objections seem to

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Speaker 1: it won't be anything other than a stadium. So that

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Speaker 1: Of course, it's a stadium and it's anyway.

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Speaker 2: So that's that. The new stadiums that are being built

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Speaker 2: and in recent times of all encountered this level of

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Speaker 1: I absolutely recall this in Perth, and it took a

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Speaker 1: now they have a magnificent stadium out of it.

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Speaker 3: They take their precedent into account. I think they have.

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Speaker 1: They have absorbed what's there in Perth and absorbed what's

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Speaker 3: Have tip their hand.

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Speaker 1: They're the neutrals, and one of those would likely have

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Speaker 1: it would clear the Upper House. Nobody knows how they

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Speaker 1: was always going to be a vote of Parliament. This

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Speaker 1: But that's not the end of it. So on to

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Speaker 1: the vote, and I've said this all. It either will

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Speaker 2: That part of it will be what there's another alternative?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I still think there's five possible outcomes. The

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Speaker 1: Is there an alternative if this is seen as not

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Speaker 3: That's some private equity.

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Speaker 1: Would the AFL allow the team to have its license

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Speaker 1: a day where the AFL announces that the Tasmanian team

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I won't hold you to it. Where

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Speaker 2: do you see it right now? Of those five will

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Speaker 2: turn is what's most likely.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good question. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: So in that instance, then you're charging on and you're

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Speaker 2: charging on to twenty twenty eighth. And Nathan Buckley had

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Speaker 2: significant words to say about today with you. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: he's committed himself if in fact they were to go

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Speaker 2: to do I think no.

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Speaker 1: I think they have to prepare themselves as if the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 6: That's probably the question that I asked myself before getting

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Speaker 3: But I mean this is so yes, the answer is yes.

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Speaker 3: The answer is yes. The answer is yes.

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Speaker 2: So I think Alistair Linch has spoken about this today

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Speaker 2: reports that he again this is not fair on Nathan,

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Speaker 2: that the job's his, he's already been guaranteed, which is

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Speaker 3: And now Stillnch is strong in that today.

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Speaker 2: So he will sit down and they will continue to

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Speaker 2: go through that process to find out their man. So

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Speaker 2: VFL team comes into the competition next year and then

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: So there's a whole lot to be determined, and the

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Speaker 1: for fine being all right, shall we delve deep Simo

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Speaker 3: Want them both, get them up. I need to talk.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there's a whiff of revenge. And here I think

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Speaker 1: that is wrapped around preliminary finals, surviving being the vanquished,