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Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on wrundery Land Always was, always

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Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land.

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Speaker 2: Hey cheeks, I'm Sal and I'm ol and this is

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Speaker 2: two broad.

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Speaker 3: Chicks, the show that shares life lessons and tips to

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Speaker 3: help make you rich in life. And today is very

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Speaker 3: exciting because we are joined by Jade aka Driven by Beauty.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me guy, Welcome to

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Speaker 4: the show.

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Speaker 3: We're so excited to have like a no bullshit care chat.

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Speaker 5: Finally, I feel like this is what we've needed. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: this is just like a personal console basically, just al

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Speaker 5: and I calm down, yea chicks of course.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because we did ask the chicks to send in

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Speaker 3: a bunch of questions, so we've got a few of

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Speaker 3: those as well.

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Speaker 4: To check at you too. Okay, cool, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: But before we get into it, we like to start

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Speaker 3: with a life lesson of the week, So would you

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Speaker 3: like to kick us off?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 6: You can come from nothing, you can work really hard,

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Speaker 6: and you can achieve anything.

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Speaker 4: I love that. And you have to always.

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Speaker 2: Give back, yes, one thousand percent. That's so true.

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Speaker 3: I think sometimes we forget that part. Yeah, because you're

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Speaker 3: sort of just focused on your journey and what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that's so important.

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Speaker 4: It's it's essential. Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 5: What's yours Mine is a TikTok that I saw, and

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Speaker 5: it was that Carrie Bradshaw was thirty two in season

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Speaker 5: one of Sex.

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Speaker 2: And the City.

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Speaker 5: So like, if you're in your twenties and thinking like

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Speaker 5: what the fuck am I doing? Or if you're in

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Speaker 5: your thirties and you're like, oh, life's winding down, it's

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Speaker 5: not at all like.

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Speaker 2: You're in your first season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're in your first season and Sex in the

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Speaker 5: City and it just like makes me so excited for that.

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Speaker 5: And there is that really comment saying that, like your

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Speaker 5: thirties is just your twenties with more money, yes, which

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Speaker 5: I'm like, slag.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, I'm excited for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, bring on.

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Speaker 5: Like the Samantha Jones, Well, Samantha was like older than

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Speaker 5: the rest of them, wasn't she.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever watch Sex?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I did. Yeah, that's that's it. Like, I love that

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Speaker 4: you said that, because your life can really start at

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Speaker 4: any y.

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Speaker 2: Yeah seriously. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: My life lesson is to use Google Maps and pins

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Speaker 3: to save locations for when you're traveling oh yeah, so

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Speaker 3: in your Google Maps you can save the pins of

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Speaker 3: different like restaurants and bars and attractions so that you

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Speaker 3: can plan your trips.

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Speaker 2: But we can't read a map. Yeah, but that's why

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Speaker 2: that's helpful. Okay, because then it's all.

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Speaker 4: In one place.

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Speaker 3: You're not being like, but that's why that's helpful, and like,

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Speaker 3: you shit on my life.

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Speaker 2: Lesson god, man.

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Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm like, fuck, dude, we like notoriously cannot

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Speaker 5: read a map. Like we'll be walking one way and

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Speaker 5: it'll be like, yeah, we'll be walking one way for

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Speaker 5: like ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, why is the time getting a longer?

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Speaker 5: I'm like, and then we're like, we're walking the completely

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Speaker 5: wrong way.

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Speaker 2: Shall we get into the episode, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: So on TikTok, you mentioned how every video you've seen

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Speaker 3: on the order of your skincare routine has not been

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Speaker 3: correct or specific.

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Speaker 2: So can you.

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Speaker 3: Please tell us what is the correct order to apply

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Speaker 6: Okay, So it really depends if you're using an oil

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Speaker 6: missed or tone and then if a harderonic acid, and

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Speaker 6: if an oil based vitamin C then and a moisturizer

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Speaker 4: Does that makes sense because you have to do water

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Speaker 5: Okay, right, that makes sense? What about for your evening routine?

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Speaker 6: So follows the same as the water before oil. So

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Speaker 6: if you're using an oil based retinoid, it needs to

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Speaker 5: How would you know for people that you know are

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Speaker 5: looking at their cabinet right now and they're like, I

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Speaker 5: don't know what if it's water based or oil based,

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Speaker 5: how would you know whether it is?

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Speaker 2: Just look it up or doesn't say it on the product?

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Speaker 6: On the ingredients, the first ingredient is usually water, so

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Speaker 6: then you know it's water based. If it says an

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Speaker 6: It's not it'll be something else.

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Speaker 4: Feel the texture? Is it oily? Water?

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Speaker 6: Is it a silicony? Sometimes it can be a bit

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Speaker 5: Okay, So what is the skincare routine that you'd recommend

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Speaker 5: for someone who wants to embrace a minimalist skincare routine.

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Speaker 6: I've got lots of these in my clinic, partially because

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Speaker 6: we need to do it because their barrio is completely

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Speaker 6: impaired and things like that.

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Speaker 4: So just cleanse.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes I've got to missed holeronic acid and moisturizer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and sef that's it.

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Speaker 2: When you say missed, what is that?

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Speaker 6: So I'm fine that particularly Welcome to Melbourne.

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Speaker 4: We're very very hard drided here. I'm a very crapey baite,

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Speaker 6: So we're fighting the alements here and it is low

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Speaker 6: humidity and it is us struggle were we need a

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Speaker 6: putting things on like a nice cinamide or you clear

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Speaker 6: gel serums like a holeronic acid that's able to grasp

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Speaker 6: onto the mist and hold more of its weight in water.

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Speaker 6: So holeronic acid is like the ant of the.

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Speaker 6: I love it, though I know I know it's just like, oh,

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Speaker 6: you never know where we're going here. It's like this ant, right,

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Speaker 6: and it holds a thousand times it's home weight of water.

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Speaker 4: So you know how ants are like these You think

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Speaker 4: about David Attenbra You know, I can't do his accent

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Speaker 4: right now, but he's like, as the ant goes through

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, he's through the forest and you seem

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Speaker 4: That's your hyaluronic acid.

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Speaker 6: But nice cinamide is also really good at decreasing trans

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Speaker 6: of beigenmal water loss, which is dehydration. But usually nicinamid

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Speaker 5: Going to look for a product, you would recommend looking

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Speaker 5: for a hyaluronic acid and a nio cinemide in the

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Speaker 6: Yeah either or yeah, just get that clear juicy gel

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I'm going to imagine an ant every time

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Speaker 3: I apply my HA going forward.

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Speaker 2: How do you tell what skin.

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Speaker 6: So I hear this a lot, and I still think

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Speaker 6: often they'll go to other places.

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Speaker 4: And this is no diss to anyone out.

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Speaker 6: There because it actually I used to be beauty therapist

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Speaker 6: the best way for you to tell is if you

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Speaker 4: And I mean really separating. Then you are oily.

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Speaker 6: Some people who are quite oily, they'll have it all

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Speaker 4: It'll be on their chin, it'll be on their cheeks,

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Speaker 6: And you get a blotting sheet and you'll see it,

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Speaker 6: and you can actually the blotting paper and you can

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Speaker 4: So that's a really good way to tell as well.

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Speaker 6: But generally I would say most people are dehydrated or

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Speaker 4: And look, everyone's floody, dehydrated. I'm not gonna lie to here.

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Speaker 5: I was like right now, I'm like, I was like, shit,

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Speaker 6: That's good for your muscles and organs, but your face

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, so does drinking because I feel like drinking

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Speaker 4: It's bullshit.

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Speaker 6: When we're at UNI, our lecturer told us this and

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Speaker 6: I think we were all thinking that we're lying to people.

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Speaker 2: My whole life has been alive.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my whole life's a lie. But we do need

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Speaker 6: this from muscles and organs. Yes, we absolutely, this is

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Speaker 4: This is how we function.

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Speaker 6: But if you're talking about here where you see your

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Speaker 6: That's where people see the crepe, the fine line, the dehydration,

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Speaker 6: So that's where things are taken topically.

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Speaker 5: What are three tips you'd give someone who doesn't really

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Speaker 5: know much about skincare that aren't product focused.

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Speaker 4: Okay, sunscreen is essential.

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Speaker 6: If you wear it, it can reduce your risk of

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Speaker 6: skin cancer by forty percent.

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Speaker 4: Do it, do it, and do it regularly. Okay. I

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Speaker 4: don't want you to end up missing it, ear nose,

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Speaker 4: having a facial flat. Just fucking do it. Moist rice, simple,

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Speaker 4: head to toe.

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Speaker 5: I think we forget our body skincare routine. Like we

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Speaker 5: you know, we'll have a seven step face skin care routine,

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Speaker 5: but then when it comes to our body, we're like, yeah, fine,

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Speaker 5: it's me.

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Speaker 2: You need to kill me.

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Speaker 6: They're like, oh, thank god, and please cleanse your face.

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Speaker 6: I don't care what you've been told, what your skin

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Speaker 6: type is. Cleanse it morning and night. I have ex

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Speaker 6: my patients that are doing it with certain cleanses because

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Speaker 6: we need to get seamides or whatever into their skin.

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Speaker 4: Just do it.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about double cleansing?

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Speaker 4: Love it? Yes? Yeah, okay, only in the evening.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So most people will do an oil or a

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Speaker 4: I don't like that judgment.

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Speaker 4: And even in that moment, we don't make you feel

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Speaker 5: Sound's been thinking about It's that vasual for.

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Speaker 2: The last twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, every time I climbed to the show, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: You like it though you're a bad girl. You're like,

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Speaker 3: You do a lot of myth busting across your channels,

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Speaker 5: Oh, other than the water one that was yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Okay, So, no matter how much you see it on

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Speaker 4: Oh these flax seed.

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Speaker 4: Do we understand how that works?

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Speaker 6: Also, the biomomedic peptides and our geroline, it is not botox.

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Speaker 4: If it was, they would be doing it in the clinics.

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Speaker 4: I'm sick of these videos going viral, but that's why.

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Speaker 5: They do go viral because it is so like I

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Speaker 6: There is so much bullshit on social media that there

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Speaker 6: Do you know how much misinformation there is? Two percent

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Speaker 6: of what you see on star social media is actually factual.

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Speaker 6: Whow that in skincare or just in general in general?

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Speaker 4: This goes for health, wo beauty.

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Speaker 6: Wellness, and I'm really proud to be a part of that.

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Speaker 6: So the info on collagen as a skincare ingredient and

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Speaker 4: Massive.

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Speaker 6: Collagen in skincare is not going to make collagen at all,

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Speaker 6: and it just sits on the surface of the skin

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Speaker 4: I'm constantly looking at medical journals on it.

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Speaker 6: I'm not the only person of a clinical background that's

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Speaker 6: that up because it's the first frickin' place it's hitting. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 6: pissing it out. I've worked with multiple doctors and multiple

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I've heard that about a lot of vitamins.

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Speaker 6: Actually, yes, so it won't like the water reach your skin.

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Speaker 5: That is wild, Yeah, because I think to have inconclusive data,

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Speaker 5: But I mean you could probably the list is so

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: We did have a question from our community and something

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Speaker 2: But do you have any advice.

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Speaker 5: On how we can deal with hormonal breakouts?

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Speaker 2: Is there anything?

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Speaker 4: Please? Please God, babe, We've all been there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, hormonal acne, Yes, a hormonal breakout hormonal acne

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Speaker 2: What they call me.

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Speaker 6: What I like, if you are currently using a retinoid

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Speaker 6: you can do that. Another thing I quite fancy is

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Speaker 6: So we can put that aside.

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Speaker 4: That's one option.

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Speaker 6: Another option is cleanse your face, get a spot treatment.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, okay, please again, don't keep going.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and then leave it because what will happen is

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Speaker 6: Or just do one and see how you go. It

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if it's a nighttime routine, is a spot treatment

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Speaker 5: the last step in that routine?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So some people can do it over the top of

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Speaker 6: a lot of these things. I did a video where

445
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Speaker 6: I extracted mine I saw, Yes, But and it works

446
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Speaker 6: because what actually happens is the retinoid eats a little

447
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 6: bit of the acid, so it brings it down unless

448
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 6: you're using a encapsulate of retinol, which it won't, and

449
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 6: it makes it very, very spicy.

450
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Speaker 4: So but you just want to do it as a

451
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Speaker 4: spot treatment. We don't want to do.

452
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Speaker 6: Whole freaking chin because you'll impair your barrier, So you

453
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 6: have to be very very careful about it. Yeah, and

454
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 6: it's only for a seasoned retinoid user. Yes makes sense, Yeah, yeah,

455
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Speaker 6: because then you'll end up with an impaired barrier.

456
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Speaker 4: But it does work very very wed.

457
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Speaker 5: I go back to the basics, back product products, but

458
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Speaker 5: foundation products.

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Speaker 6: Something to understand is retinoid's actually is So you know

460
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Speaker 6: how when we drink we're hung over the next day.

461
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Speaker 3: No, No, I don't know.

462
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 4: Anything about that. We all know about it.

463
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Speaker 6: Retoids their hangover comes in four days later. Oh, the shedding.

464
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Speaker 6: So if you've been going, oh, I'm getting on the

465
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Speaker 6: the retinoids tonight, the retinoids the next night, the night

466
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Speaker 6: after that, the night after that, babe, you've got a

467
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Speaker 6: lot of shedding building up.

468
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Speaker 2: And it starts at peeling.

469
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Speaker 6: That's why it starts peeling. So by day four you're

470
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Speaker 6: only seeing the first night. Do you get what I mean?

471
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Speaker 6: So it's like building up you're not experiencing your hangover

472
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Speaker 6: four days later.

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Speaker 4: Makes sense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, imagine like not drinking for three nights and then

475
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 5: you get hung over and you're like.

476
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Speaker 4: What the fuck?

477
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: You're like, where comes from?

478
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Speaker 5: Yeah? That makes sense though, because I think I've definitely

479
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 5: made that mistake, and I've you know, we've all done

480
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 5: on a bit heavy on active ingredients, and then like

481
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Speaker 5: maybe used a turning mist on my face and then

482
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Speaker 5: I was like.

483
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I look like cobblo. Like I was like, shit,

484
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: what's happened? And I knew exactly what happened, but I was.

485
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Speaker 5: Like, ah, but yeah, I think that's that's really good

486
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Speaker 5: insight to have, is knowing that what you said that

487
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Speaker 5: hormonal breakouts and hormonal acne two different things. So what

488
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Speaker 5: if someone came to you and they were struggling with

489
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Speaker 5: hormonal acne, what would you recommend for them? I know

490
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Speaker 5: it would probably depend on, you know, certain factors in

491
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Speaker 5: their lifestyle, but in your experience, what have you seen

492
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Speaker 5: be quite helpful for people.

493
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Speaker 6: So we're really lucky at my clinic at Fullest Rejuvenation,

494
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Speaker 6: we've got a laser that is one of the first

495
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Speaker 6: lasers in my absolutely amazing that actually is target sebam.

496
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Speaker 6: So lasers work to target pigment redness things like that,

497
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Speaker 6: and it's looking as an alternative for roakitane.

498
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Speaker 2: Oh that's wow.

499
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Speaker 6: So we've never had, like I've been doing this for

500
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Speaker 6: nearly ten years now, we've never had a laser to

501
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Speaker 6: specifically target seed them.

502
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Speaker 2: So people who don't know what is sebam.

503
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Speaker 4: That's oil. That's the oil that gets stuck.

504
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Speaker 6: So when we talk acne, you've got a lot of

505
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Speaker 6: things going on and hormonal acne, people often forget this component,

506
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 6: which is androgens. So that's the male hormone that's causing it.

507
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Speaker 6: So that's why often people end up on trying other

508
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 6: things like spur lactone or the peel and all sorts

509
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 6: of things like that. Trying to control it. We're trying

510
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Speaker 6: to control oil flow, right, You've also got this overproduction

511
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 6: of oil happening. You've got hyperkeretonization, which all these skin

512
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 6: cells just flooding into the follicle and then it's getting blocked,

513
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 6: and then you're getting inflammation and the bacteria of So

514
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 6: you've got all these other things, but then you're forgetting

515
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 6: about you know, the androgens, which is the hormoneal component.

516
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 6: And acne is not just one breakout here and there.

517
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 6: Acne is multiple. Yeah, you're waking up with it more.

518
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Speaker 4: Than just one random one you're getting.

519
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 6: We actually have like a chart that we use to say, okay,

520
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 6: you've got a number of them. So I think a

521
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Speaker 6: lot of people think that they've got acne and they

522
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 6: don't and they're just waking up with a spot here

523
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 6: and there. People who have acne are actually waking up

524
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Speaker 6: with multiple friends on their face every day.

525
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think we were having this conversation a couple of

527
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Speaker 5: weeks ago and just saying how we probably need to

528
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Speaker 5: be a bit more careful about how we speak about

529
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Speaker 5: askin and when we call it acne, and in comparison

530
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Speaker 5: to you know, people that do really actually struggle with

531
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Speaker 5: severe acne and complaining about our pimples and saying that

532
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Speaker 5: we have acne when in reality we don't. And how

533
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 5: that can you know, affect and feel for people that

534
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 5: do struggle with it.

535
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Speaker 2: And I just think, yeah, we could probably be a

536
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Speaker 2: little bit more careful.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and now we discern, but I do understand, Like

538
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Speaker 6: it's not I get that if someone wakes up and

539
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 6: I understand all of it, and it's okay to feel like,

540
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Speaker 6: oh my god, my face looks like shit today and

541
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Speaker 6: I don't know what I've done.

542
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Speaker 4: It's all.

543
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Speaker 6: It's okay to have your own insecurity and feel that relative,

544
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 6: it's all relative.

545
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

546
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Speaker 5: Well, we wanted to finish with a quick little game

547
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Speaker 5: of save or splurge, where we're going to read you

548
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Speaker 5: out a product and you're going to tell us whether

549
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Speaker 5: you think it's a save so to save on the

550
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Speaker 5: price and you know, go for one that's maybe a

551
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Speaker 5: little bit more affordable, or if you think it's a

552
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 5: splurge and to put maybe a couple more pennies towards Okay,

553
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Speaker 5: this product.

554
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Speaker 2: Okay, save or splurge cleanser.

555
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 4: You can save, Okay.

556
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Speaker 6: There are so many affordable cleanses at your chemist and

557
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 6: things like that. But if you do want to splurge,

558
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 6: you can. But honestly, you can get a great cleanser

559
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Speaker 6: as a chemist.

560
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is there a hero cleansa that you really like?

562
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Speaker 6: I can't say that there's a hero one, but I

563
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 6: often like with the skins that are presented to me

564
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 6: in clinic because there's so many impaired barriers, your seat

565
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 6: to fills, your ceravs.

566
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, things like that.

567
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 6: Probably what I often have to recommend because there isn't

568
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Speaker 6: a lot else I can sort of give.

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00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, save a splurge chemical exfoliant.

570
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Speaker 4: I don't often recommend them.

571
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Speaker 3: Oh really, so you would say nil, that's the same

572
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Speaker 3: because you don't want to know, because I'm often like,

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Speaker 3: we prescribe retinoids.

574
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I suppose you could say that's yeah, yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: So do you think a physical exfolling is better than

576
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: a chemical exfollient.

577
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Speaker 6: Or do you well, I suppose i'd said a glycolic acid.

578
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Speaker 4: Just then, the ones that I do recommend, they're a splurge.

579
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's fair enough, and I think that's

580
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 5: typically what would be the consensus too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, Okay, save or splurge SBF.

582
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 4: Save babe, I don't really care.

583
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 6: Just get the fluff and thing on your face.

584
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Speaker 2: I knew you were going to be.

585
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 6: It's like a mineral chemical whatever I usually my minerals.

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Speaker 6: I'm like giving that, you know, recommending that to people

587
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 6: with pigmentary ordyschromea malasma.

588
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 4: But just get it on your fluff and face.

589
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, because doesn't Australia have really strict guidelines very to

590
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Speaker 5: be able to produce an SBF product, So you know

591
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Speaker 5: that whatever the price is, that product has gone through

592
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Speaker 5: quite an amount of testing.

593
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Speaker 2: That's it's going to be.

594
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: Up to standard.

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Speaker 6: It is insane that to get an SBF on the

596
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 6: market I kind of even tell you what an SBF

597
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 6: has to go through to get it here, Like a

598
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Speaker 6: lot of people want to get their spfs made in

599
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 6: other countries or that they often will have the mate here.

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Speaker 4: Like it's insane.

601
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Speaker 6: Our legislation here and TGA guidelines for SBF is insane,

602
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 6: which is amazing.

603
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Speaker 2: Yes, save us splurge hyaluronic acid.

604
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: You can save mat save us splurge, Retino splurge.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was going to be.

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Speaker 6: It's always the one thing I say, if you want

607
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 6: to invest in something, invest in a retinoid and invest

608
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Speaker 6: in a vitamin c M.

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Speaker 5: So we spoke about how retinoids have like the four

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Speaker 5: day hangover.

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Speaker 2: For someone who after listening to this.

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Speaker 5: Is going to go out and invest in a retinoid,

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Speaker 5: how would that you recommend they introduce it into their skincare.

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Speaker 6: I really think if you can, first of all, good

615
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 6: if you understand your skin time, because there are so

616
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Speaker 6: many different bases. So there are creams, there are oils,

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00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 6: things like that. But if you know what you're doing, great.

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Speaker 6: On my and this is not like a promo thing.

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Speaker 6: This is a safety thing. On my TikTok in my

620
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Speaker 6: bio because I can't tell you how much retinoid dermatitis

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Speaker 6: I've seen over my career. There's a tab called Retreat

622
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 6: and I talk about different skin types that can use it.

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Speaker 6: This is purely a safety thing, right, Yes, I don't

624
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 6: want people to hurt themselves with it. So you can

625
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Speaker 6: go and look at that if you need help. If

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Speaker 6: you want to introduce a retinoid, for the first week,

627
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Speaker 6: you use it every third night. For the second week

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Speaker 6: you use it every second night, and for the third

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Speaker 6: week you're on it every night.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

631
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Speaker 6: It's really important to use the right cleanser because you

632
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Speaker 6: don't want to overstrip your skin. And it's really important

633
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 6: to have the right barrier and a good moisturiser, and

634
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 6: don't use any other acids or anything else that's going

635
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Speaker 6: to overstrip your barrier during that time for at least

636
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Speaker 6: a month.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so gentle cleanser and then the calendar you basically

638
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Speaker 5: just said correct, and then don't use any other active ingredients.

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Speaker 2: Does that include vitamin C?

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Speaker 6: Vitamin C is okay? But some people, if their barrier

641
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 6: is really impaired and they're using an allascorbic acid, it

642
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 6: will act like an acid, so in the morning they'll

643
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 6: put it on and it will burn if you are shedding.

644
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Speaker 4: Pull back.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm taking notes. Yeah, I am taking notes right now.

646
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Speaker 2: Okay, save us word moisturizer.

647
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 5: Say I like, how many saves away?

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00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we want it.

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Speaker 6: Save You don't need to spend a lot of money

650
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Speaker 6: on a moisturizer. And often most of the time in clinic,

651
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 6: when people come in with an impaired barrier, we're like,

652
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 6: for now, do this, But eventually they get there and

653
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 6: they're like, oh, want all.

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Speaker 4: The good skin care.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but for now, we're just trying to repair your barrier.

656
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 6: So often we're just doing the very basic routine.

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Speaker 5: What you've spoken a bit about impaired barriers in this episode,

658
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Speaker 5: what other signs someone has an impaired barrier and they

659
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Speaker 5: should maybe come to you.

660
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: So an impaired barrier is where your skin is.

661
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 6: It can be dry, can be showing lots of breakouts

662
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 6: and acne, can be very very creepy. It can have redness,

663
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 6: it can have flakiness in certain areas. You can put

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Speaker 6: products on your skin and it's burning and you're not

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Speaker 6: sure why. You're trialing lots of products to try and

666
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 6: get it to where it needs to be, but nothing

667
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 6: is working. It feels height. It can even be splitting open.

668
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 6: It could be bleeding, it could be pussing, it could

669
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 6: be cracking, it could be all sorts of things and

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00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 6: you just can't get it to where it needs to be.

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00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: That would feel really frustrating, but it's interesting to know

672
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: that the symptoms.

673
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 2: Are so varied.

674
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: So I think that's why it's so important to go

675
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: speak to a professional.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that's the splurge to

677
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 5: be honest, like going and speaking to a professional. If

678
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 5: you know, you've been trying for a really long time

679
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 5: to figure out what's going on with your skin and

680
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 5: you just can't figure it out and it's really affecting

681
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 5: your mental health, the splurge is to go and you know,

682
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 5: see someone.

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00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, if if you're in discomfort, just get to a dermatologist,

684
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 6: Just go into a find a general clinician in your area.

685
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 6: Just find someone to help you, because the longer you wait,

686
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 6: the worse it gets.

687
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's so good, and thank you so much for

688
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 5: joining us. But you had some really exciting news that

689
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 5: you told us before the start of this episode. So

690
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 5: are we allowed to share?

691
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Speaker 4: Yes, we are allowed to share it.

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00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: Hey tell us.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I never thought i'd be here. I can't believe

694
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 6: this is happening. But this week I filmed a pilot

695
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 6: episode of a new TV show series web series called

696
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 6: Glow and Tale, where I'm basically going into people's homes,

697
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 6: rating their bathroom cabinets and seeing what skincare they're using

698
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 6: and how I can actually help them, and then taking

699
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 6: them shopping.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

701
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Speaker 6: So it is definitely for people who are on a

702
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 6: budget and I just you never know where you end up, babe.

703
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I congratulation breaks every frickin' day.

704
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when is it going to launch?

705
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 4: Do you know yet? Soon?

706
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 6: Just wake out for the pink scrubs.

707
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: Oh that is so amazing.

708
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Speaker 5: And for any of the chicks that aren't already following you,

709
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 5: where can they find you?

710
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 6: So you can find me on TikTok it's driven by

711
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 6: beauty and on Instagram it's also driven by beauty.

712
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Amazing. Thank you so much. That was so insightful and

713
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: so digestible.

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Speaker 5: Like I think the way you speak about skincare is

715
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 5: really easy to understand in a world where it can

716
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 5: be quite overcomplicated. So thank you so much for your

717
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 5: time today. It was an absolute pleasure and I've learnt

718
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 5: so so much.

719
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. That was amazing.

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00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me, And.

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00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: Thanks to you chicks for having us in the ear holes.

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00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: We love to be here.

723
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: A little bit.

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00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 2: Bye chicks, Bye bye,