1 00:00:05,881 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apogay Production. 2 00:00:10,921 --> 00:00:14,001 Speaker 2: Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashley and I'm Tiana. 3 00:00:14,361 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: This podcast is about female empowerment and encouraging you to 4 00:00:17,361 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: be your biggest, boldest, and most authentic version of yourself. 5 00:00:20,961 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: We help you shed the shame, grow to a new level. 6 00:00:23,321 --> 00:00:26,241 Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone 7 00:00:26,281 --> 00:00:27,801 Speaker 1: else is too afraid to talk about. 8 00:00:28,401 --> 00:00:30,721 Speaker 2: Get ready for your next level of self. 9 00:00:30,841 --> 00:00:33,801 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to a Wednesday episode where I'm 10 00:00:33,801 --> 00:00:36,881 Speaker 1: gonna ask lovely Tiana a bunch of questions and I'm 11 00:00:36,881 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: also going to answer them. 12 00:00:37,961 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: But the trick is she doesn't know what I'm gonna 13 00:00:39,441 --> 00:00:41,441 Speaker 2: ask her. I am low key terrified. 14 00:00:41,801 --> 00:00:44,881 Speaker 1: No, they're not scary questions. They're just really deep questions. 15 00:00:44,881 --> 00:00:46,841 Speaker 1: And one of them was actually inspired by Taj, which 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,601 Speaker 1: we'll do at the end, because he asked me this 17 00:00:48,681 --> 00:00:50,961 Speaker 1: last week and that's what kind of sparked the idea 18 00:00:51,001 --> 00:00:53,281 Speaker 1: of this episode. Some to ask some deep questions because 19 00:00:53,321 --> 00:00:56,121 Speaker 1: I just love hearing your perspective on things. And also, 20 00:00:56,681 --> 00:00:59,081 Speaker 1: you guys listening, think about what you would answer because 21 00:00:59,121 --> 00:01:01,521 Speaker 1: it helps get clarity. Do were you're at, what you're 22 00:01:01,521 --> 00:01:04,441 Speaker 1: wanting maybe what's not serving you just gonna be a fun, 23 00:01:04,561 --> 00:01:05,521 Speaker 1: more deeper episode. 24 00:01:05,681 --> 00:01:06,761 Speaker 2: I love it all right. 25 00:01:06,801 --> 00:01:10,241 Speaker 1: First question, if there is one thing that you could 26 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,881 Speaker 1: change from your past, what would it be and why I. 27 00:01:13,801 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: Wouldn't go back and change anything. There's nothing that really 28 00:01:16,801 --> 00:01:19,241 Speaker 2: comes to mind, because when I look at my journey 29 00:01:19,481 --> 00:01:21,401 Speaker 2: and the woman that I am today, if I didn't 30 00:01:21,441 --> 00:01:23,001 Speaker 2: have to go through the things that I went through, 31 00:01:23,081 --> 00:01:25,281 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be who I am. Yes, you know what 32 00:01:25,321 --> 00:01:27,601 Speaker 2: I mean. So there's nothing that I would take out, 33 00:01:27,601 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: because then it would mean that I wouldn't get to 34 00:01:29,081 --> 00:01:31,241 Speaker 2: be this version of me. I'm proud of this version 35 00:01:31,241 --> 00:01:33,241 Speaker 2: of me, you know. So I don't think that there's 36 00:01:33,241 --> 00:01:35,241 Speaker 2: anything that I would change, even all the hardship, even 37 00:01:35,241 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: all the stuff that I went even the sex tape, Like, 38 00:01:37,401 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: I wouldn't change it. And it sounds a bit weird 39 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,041 Speaker 2: because you're like, why that's cool to happen. But I 40 00:01:42,121 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: needed to go through the change and the shame and 41 00:01:44,721 --> 00:01:46,241 Speaker 2: all of the things that came up for me around 42 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,121 Speaker 2: that so I could evolve into this version of me 43 00:01:48,361 --> 00:01:50,361 Speaker 2: that's really freaking cool. How about you. 44 00:01:50,961 --> 00:01:54,881 Speaker 1: I think I would have loved to have changed when 45 00:01:54,921 --> 00:01:58,281 Speaker 1: I started doing nervous system regulation, work because I think 46 00:01:58,521 --> 00:02:01,361 Speaker 1: I wish I was a better mother for Tage when 47 00:02:01,401 --> 00:02:03,921 Speaker 1: he was a baby. The version of who I am 48 00:02:04,001 --> 00:02:06,121 Speaker 1: now and how I've been out to be for Tala 49 00:02:06,401 --> 00:02:08,561 Speaker 1: is just so different. Not that I was a bad 50 00:02:08,681 --> 00:02:11,401 Speaker 1: mum before any Karen's jump at me. I was just 51 00:02:11,561 --> 00:02:15,201 Speaker 1: so disregulated. I was so depressed. I really wasn't coping 52 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: with life. It was at the peak in my career, 53 00:02:17,601 --> 00:02:21,041 Speaker 1: the peak of the trolls, and I just I just 54 00:02:21,041 --> 00:02:23,441 Speaker 1: feel like I was an anxious wreck. Like I remember 55 00:02:23,601 --> 00:02:26,281 Speaker 1: times where we'd be driving, He'd be screaming in the 56 00:02:26,321 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: back and I would have a full blown panic attack. 57 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: I could not handle him crying. I have to pull 58 00:02:32,201 --> 00:02:35,121 Speaker 1: over and I would be shaking, trying to calm myself 59 00:02:35,161 --> 00:02:37,441 Speaker 1: down whilst my child is crying and as if he's 60 00:02:37,481 --> 00:02:40,041 Speaker 1: going to calm down when I'm like that, and I 61 00:02:40,121 --> 00:02:42,281 Speaker 1: just look back and I have compassion for myself because I. 62 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,041 Speaker 2: Was really just not in a good way. 63 00:02:44,401 --> 00:02:46,241 Speaker 1: I don't think I gave him realized how deep and 64 00:02:46,321 --> 00:02:48,121 Speaker 1: dark I was in because I had to continue to 65 00:02:48,121 --> 00:02:50,121 Speaker 1: show up for zashi Byn's and do this and do that, 66 00:02:50,161 --> 00:02:51,881 Speaker 1: and support these women and do all these ads and 67 00:02:52,041 --> 00:02:54,281 Speaker 1: fund the business and show up on stage and I 68 00:02:54,321 --> 00:02:57,161 Speaker 1: had to put the front on. I enjoyed all of that, 69 00:02:57,281 --> 00:03:00,361 Speaker 1: but whilst trying to hold my pain, I just, yeah, 70 00:03:00,361 --> 00:03:02,441 Speaker 1: I didn't cope. I wish I started it earlier so 71 00:03:02,481 --> 00:03:05,281 Speaker 1: he could have had this version of me. Yeah, But 72 00:03:05,321 --> 00:03:07,481 Speaker 1: then I look at him and I feel him and 73 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,961 Speaker 1: I see him, and he's just the most beautiful little boy. 74 00:03:10,001 --> 00:03:14,241 Speaker 1: He's so compassionate and loving and caring, and he's such 75 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: a good listener and he's just beautiful. So I did 76 00:03:17,001 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: something right. But yeah, that's what I wish I could 77 00:03:19,601 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: take back. If I ever think about guilt and shame, 78 00:03:21,761 --> 00:03:24,881 Speaker 1: it's always around him as a little baby and toddler, 79 00:03:25,601 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: and even the thought of you know, when I've spoken 80 00:03:27,401 --> 00:03:28,881 Speaker 1: about how I wanted to end my life, he was, 81 00:03:29,001 --> 00:03:30,441 Speaker 1: you know, a year and a half, and I would 82 00:03:30,481 --> 00:03:33,121 Speaker 1: just carry guilt around, like the thought of leaving him behind, 83 00:03:33,641 --> 00:03:37,481 Speaker 1: like how could I do that to my son? So yeah, 84 00:03:37,641 --> 00:03:39,121 Speaker 1: what makes the emotional. 85 00:03:40,761 --> 00:03:41,881 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel sad. 86 00:03:42,521 --> 00:03:44,921 Speaker 3: This always comes up, heh. But like I've done like 87 00:03:44,961 --> 00:03:48,041 Speaker 3: three shame circles and it's always the same thing. I 88 00:03:48,121 --> 00:03:51,561 Speaker 3: just feel feel sad that he got that version of me, 89 00:03:52,001 --> 00:03:54,961 Speaker 3: and I feel stoke talal against his version of me. 90 00:03:55,041 --> 00:03:57,361 Speaker 3: But I sometimes look at him and I'm like, oh, 91 00:03:57,561 --> 00:03:59,801 Speaker 3: I wish I could have done better for him, but 92 00:03:59,841 --> 00:04:00,961 Speaker 3: I was like barely keeping my. 93 00:04:00,921 --> 00:04:02,121 Speaker 2: Own head afloat, you know. 94 00:04:03,281 --> 00:04:08,881 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what I would change. Gosh, it always 95 00:04:08,881 --> 00:04:09,441 Speaker 3: brings it up. 96 00:04:09,641 --> 00:04:14,681 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, yeah, I've broke through that. Nope, Hello, yeah 97 00:04:14,761 --> 00:04:16,361 Speaker 2: it's still there. Players Yeah. 98 00:04:16,361 --> 00:04:18,561 Speaker 1: I always wonder if that's always just gonna sit there, Like, 99 00:04:18,601 --> 00:04:25,481 Speaker 1: well I ever move through that? Okay, tears are out 100 00:04:26,241 --> 00:04:29,921 Speaker 1: right now. Do you think there is one thing that 101 00:04:30,121 --> 00:04:33,841 Speaker 1: truly holds you back from achieving your goals, from being 102 00:04:33,841 --> 00:04:35,801 Speaker 1: who you want to be, from living the life you 103 00:04:35,801 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: want it? Do you think there's one thing that keeps 104 00:04:38,241 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: arising And you're like, oh. 105 00:04:41,041 --> 00:04:44,041 Speaker 2: I would say there's like these deep underlying belief that 106 00:04:44,081 --> 00:04:46,281 Speaker 2: I have that like I'm not capable of achieving the 107 00:04:46,281 --> 00:04:48,601 Speaker 2: things that I want and I've lotable. I feel like 108 00:04:48,641 --> 00:04:51,281 Speaker 2: it comes out in everything that I do, Like even 109 00:04:51,281 --> 00:04:53,401 Speaker 2: when I'm doing stuff, it's there, you know what I mean. 110 00:04:53,401 --> 00:04:55,921 Speaker 2: It's not like it goes away or like you learn 111 00:04:55,921 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: how to deal with it and it becomes quieter. But 112 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: I just feel like there's definitely a deep root of 113 00:04:59,961 --> 00:05:02,521 Speaker 2: beliefs sometimes where I'll lean on that belief when I'm 114 00:05:02,561 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: procrastinating or something and I notice the fear, and you know, 115 00:05:05,561 --> 00:05:07,841 Speaker 2: maybe there'll be certain areas in my life or business 116 00:05:07,921 --> 00:05:10,041 Speaker 2: or maybe something that I do where I'm like, oh, 117 00:05:10,081 --> 00:05:11,921 Speaker 2: like I want to reach for the stars, but then 118 00:05:11,961 --> 00:05:14,001 Speaker 2: I feel like, but what if I fuck it up? 119 00:05:14,121 --> 00:05:15,961 Speaker 2: Or like what if it doesn't work out, or what 120 00:05:16,001 --> 00:05:17,921 Speaker 2: if you know, I'm not capable, And it's just like 121 00:05:17,961 --> 00:05:20,121 Speaker 2: this little niggle of like a fear that kind of 122 00:05:20,161 --> 00:05:22,441 Speaker 2: just like lingers around. So I think that definitely in 123 00:05:22,481 --> 00:05:24,841 Speaker 2: the past, I would say that that's stopped me, and 124 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,721 Speaker 2: I can even see where it comes up. Now whenever 125 00:05:26,761 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: I'm procrastinating or whatever, I'm like, I notice it and 126 00:05:29,081 --> 00:05:31,521 Speaker 2: then I'm like, okay, cool. The only difference is now 127 00:05:31,601 --> 00:05:33,921 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit better at learning how to move 128 00:05:34,041 --> 00:05:37,201 Speaker 2: regardless of that fear, you know, like now I'm conscious 129 00:05:37,241 --> 00:05:39,121 Speaker 2: of the fact that the fear can be there. But 130 00:05:39,161 --> 00:05:40,681 Speaker 2: then go, okay, like I don't have to let this 131 00:05:40,721 --> 00:05:43,561 Speaker 2: fear define me now. You know. It's like, do I 132 00:05:43,641 --> 00:05:45,681 Speaker 2: really want this fear to be the reason why I 133 00:05:45,681 --> 00:05:47,681 Speaker 2: don't achieve what I want or prove to myself that 134 00:05:47,681 --> 00:05:49,801 Speaker 2: I'm capable or create the impact that I know that 135 00:05:49,841 --> 00:05:53,401 Speaker 2: I'm capable of doing. It's like, is that fear and 136 00:05:53,561 --> 00:05:56,241 Speaker 2: the thought of the fear worth me not doing all 137 00:05:56,281 --> 00:05:58,801 Speaker 2: those incredible things? And it's just not. Yeah, you know, 138 00:05:59,161 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: so I can catch it and I can clock it, 139 00:06:00,921 --> 00:06:02,361 Speaker 2: but I have to be aware of it, you know, 140 00:06:02,401 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: because it's just there. Yeah, I love that. One's kind 141 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,721 Speaker 2: of similar. It's similar. Similar. Lately, I've been saying some 142 00:06:09,761 --> 00:06:14,121 Speaker 2: weird words me and you now the day vibe, but 143 00:06:14,561 --> 00:06:16,561 Speaker 2: you were saying every now and again, we'll both say 144 00:06:16,601 --> 00:06:18,681 Speaker 2: something really Bogan, it's just come out. 145 00:06:18,721 --> 00:06:21,561 Speaker 1: And I always combine Katie and j our producers their 146 00:06:21,641 --> 00:06:27,241 Speaker 1: name Katie and k Yeah, okay, mine's similar, And I 147 00:06:27,281 --> 00:06:29,161 Speaker 1: catch myself in it, and I think I catch myself 148 00:06:29,241 --> 00:06:32,001 Speaker 1: quicker because you're next to me, because it revolves around 149 00:06:32,001 --> 00:06:36,721 Speaker 1: our work, and it's around the podcast, around teaching, around 150 00:06:36,761 --> 00:06:39,481 Speaker 1: our events, around our future plans I have. I don't 151 00:06:39,481 --> 00:06:42,241 Speaker 1: know if it's a post syndrome self doubt, just a 152 00:06:42,281 --> 00:06:44,681 Speaker 1: story that I. 153 00:06:43,921 --> 00:06:45,241 Speaker 2: Can't do it because I'm not a coach. 154 00:06:45,401 --> 00:06:47,241 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't studied to become a coach, and I'm 155 00:06:47,241 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: never claiming to be a coach. I've always just shared 156 00:06:49,161 --> 00:06:52,241 Speaker 1: my life online and it's resonated and helped and people 157 00:06:52,241 --> 00:06:53,921 Speaker 1: can take it with a grain of salt. But I 158 00:06:54,001 --> 00:06:56,201 Speaker 1: have little moments of like can I get up and 159 00:06:56,241 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: talk about that? Yeah, in my own books too, because 160 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,601 Speaker 1: I catch it pretty quickly and be like, sure, that's silly, 161 00:07:01,081 --> 00:07:03,561 Speaker 1: because I'm not claiming to be a coach, and I 162 00:07:03,641 --> 00:07:06,721 Speaker 1: learned from real people and real experiences and real stories 163 00:07:06,761 --> 00:07:09,681 Speaker 1: and real pain. I couldn't care less if someone's qualified 164 00:07:09,761 --> 00:07:12,201 Speaker 1: or not. Yes, I'm not discrediting that. It's amazing. I 165 00:07:12,321 --> 00:07:14,281 Speaker 1: love that you're qualified and a coach, and so all 166 00:07:14,281 --> 00:07:17,121 Speaker 1: my coaches and psychologists and learn from everyone. But I 167 00:07:17,281 --> 00:07:19,361 Speaker 1: just have to get up there and be myself, and 168 00:07:19,361 --> 00:07:21,241 Speaker 1: people are there to hear our stories and to hear 169 00:07:21,281 --> 00:07:24,041 Speaker 1: what we've learned along the way. But there is those 170 00:07:24,041 --> 00:07:27,361 Speaker 1: little moments of like ooh, I pull back, or I'm like, oh, 171 00:07:27,521 --> 00:07:30,921 Speaker 1: you do that, Tiana. I'll sit behind your shadow. I'll 172 00:07:30,961 --> 00:07:33,441 Speaker 1: just be here and you're like, no, no, no, we're doing 173 00:07:33,481 --> 00:07:36,161 Speaker 1: this together. I'll lead here, you can help me with this, 174 00:07:36,361 --> 00:07:38,241 Speaker 1: and you lead here, and you know we'll work together 175 00:07:38,281 --> 00:07:41,281 Speaker 1: as a team vice versa. It's really beautiful because my 176 00:07:41,401 --> 00:07:44,241 Speaker 1: weaknesses are your strengths and vice versa. We both bring 177 00:07:44,281 --> 00:07:46,481 Speaker 1: so much to the table and whatever we're feeling like 178 00:07:46,521 --> 00:07:48,361 Speaker 1: we're lacking in or we need to work on more, 179 00:07:48,441 --> 00:07:50,601 Speaker 1: the other kind of picks it up and teaches us 180 00:07:50,601 --> 00:07:51,041 Speaker 1: as we go. 181 00:07:51,401 --> 00:07:53,361 Speaker 2: It's really cool. We've got a really beautiful dynamic. It 182 00:07:53,441 --> 00:07:55,561 Speaker 2: is beautiful like that. Yeah, But I have a bit 183 00:07:55,561 --> 00:07:57,841 Speaker 2: of self doubt sometimes creep in. I think everyone would 184 00:07:57,961 --> 00:08:01,041 Speaker 2: never work that so human in that in every area 185 00:08:01,121 --> 00:08:03,401 Speaker 2: of life. Yeah, pops up for everyone. You know. It's 186 00:08:03,401 --> 00:08:05,601 Speaker 2: just such an innate thing that we feel today, and 187 00:08:05,641 --> 00:08:07,521 Speaker 2: like it's okay that we feel it, but it doesn't 188 00:08:07,521 --> 00:08:09,801 Speaker 2: have to mean anything about who we are. Yeah. Like 189 00:08:09,841 --> 00:08:12,881 Speaker 2: even literally me just before, like I literally said to actually, 190 00:08:12,881 --> 00:08:14,281 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm just like having a day 191 00:08:14,281 --> 00:08:15,841 Speaker 2: where I'm just like I have doubt today, Like I'm 192 00:08:15,881 --> 00:08:18,481 Speaker 2: doubting myself, myself, you know, doubting what I was saying 193 00:08:18,561 --> 00:08:20,401 Speaker 2: or doubting you know, the things that I was bringing 194 00:08:20,481 --> 00:08:22,561 Speaker 2: up or whatever. But it's like, you know, I think 195 00:08:22,601 --> 00:08:24,081 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of women who can relate 196 00:08:24,121 --> 00:08:24,721 Speaker 2: to that as well. 197 00:08:24,801 --> 00:08:26,521 Speaker 1: And I think it also comes from a place of 198 00:08:26,561 --> 00:08:30,161 Speaker 1: having such high standards for ourselves and for the information 199 00:08:30,241 --> 00:08:31,921 Speaker 1: we deliver and the podcast we do in the events 200 00:08:31,921 --> 00:08:33,881 Speaker 1: that we run. Like if you girls would see the 201 00:08:33,881 --> 00:08:36,201 Speaker 1: behind the scenes work that goes into our events. We 202 00:08:37,201 --> 00:08:39,441 Speaker 1: put our heart and souls into this. It is so 203 00:08:39,761 --> 00:08:43,041 Speaker 1: thought out. We've taken the last fifteen years of us 204 00:08:43,041 --> 00:08:46,481 Speaker 1: doing coaching and getting help and going to events and 205 00:08:46,521 --> 00:08:50,361 Speaker 1: courses and studying and podcasts and bring everything in a condensed, 206 00:08:50,601 --> 00:08:53,361 Speaker 1: compact little box for you girls. Like, there's so much 207 00:08:53,361 --> 00:08:54,641 Speaker 1: put into it. So I think we just have really 208 00:08:54,721 --> 00:08:57,481 Speaker 1: high standards for what we deliver and because weeoplet to 209 00:08:57,561 --> 00:09:01,881 Speaker 1: help so much, we've truly genuinely love making a different 210 00:09:01,961 --> 00:09:04,601 Speaker 1: women's lives. Yeah, and it's just really important to us. 211 00:09:04,601 --> 00:09:06,601 Speaker 1: So I think there's a few layers to it. But yeah, 212 00:09:06,641 --> 00:09:11,601 Speaker 1: that pops off for me. Okay, next good or bad, 213 00:09:12,361 --> 00:09:15,041 Speaker 1: No offense taken. But what is one thing that you 214 00:09:15,081 --> 00:09:18,241 Speaker 1: would change about me? It can be funny, it can 215 00:09:18,321 --> 00:09:19,801 Speaker 1: be serious, it can be annoying. 216 00:09:20,721 --> 00:09:22,481 Speaker 2: Oh god, I feel like this is one of those 217 00:09:22,521 --> 00:09:27,401 Speaker 2: questions where we're getting baited, like, yeah, yeah, she's gonna 218 00:09:27,441 --> 00:09:31,321 Speaker 2: hit the I'm just kidding to do this is Steve. Often, 219 00:09:31,361 --> 00:09:33,841 Speaker 2: I'll like ask a question about his past. Yeah, this is. 220 00:09:36,481 --> 00:09:37,121 Speaker 1: We don't want to know. 221 00:09:37,081 --> 00:09:41,441 Speaker 2: That you do. Then it's like yes, it's like I'm 222 00:09:41,441 --> 00:09:44,641 Speaker 2: mad at you. Yeah, okay, what would I There's so 223 00:09:44,681 --> 00:09:46,401 Speaker 2: many beautiful things that I love about you. 224 00:09:46,441 --> 00:09:49,961 Speaker 1: I just it's not the question to I know, you 225 00:09:50,001 --> 00:09:53,801 Speaker 1: don't have to sandwiched. 226 00:09:54,041 --> 00:09:57,241 Speaker 2: You realize you don't have to sandwich Okay. I mentioned 227 00:09:57,241 --> 00:09:59,961 Speaker 2: this to you before in the car where sometimes when 228 00:09:59,961 --> 00:10:02,081 Speaker 2: you're not getting away, or like things aren't going your 229 00:10:02,121 --> 00:10:04,201 Speaker 2: way or things aren't going to plan or something like that, 230 00:10:04,561 --> 00:10:07,561 Speaker 2: you'll delay the way that you speak. It's really slow. 231 00:10:07,721 --> 00:10:12,961 Speaker 2: It's like in a different tone, is it. Yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah, 232 00:10:13,081 --> 00:10:15,881 Speaker 2: oh do you really like it? Just it's like this 233 00:10:16,001 --> 00:10:18,481 Speaker 2: thing and like I can you can tell them unhappy 234 00:10:18,641 --> 00:10:21,241 Speaker 2: or yeah, It's like it's not angry or anything like that. 235 00:10:21,361 --> 00:10:23,761 Speaker 2: It's just like a it's a difference of energy and 236 00:10:23,761 --> 00:10:25,721 Speaker 2: I can feel it, and I would say that like 237 00:10:26,521 --> 00:10:29,121 Speaker 2: with that, that would be the thing that I would 238 00:10:29,161 --> 00:10:31,281 Speaker 2: like change. It's just like the how does it make 239 00:10:31,321 --> 00:10:31,881 Speaker 2: you feel? 240 00:10:32,281 --> 00:10:34,121 Speaker 1: Just to help me get more clarity, because I think 241 00:10:34,121 --> 00:10:36,721 Speaker 1: for me, I'm taking space to think about how I 242 00:10:36,761 --> 00:10:39,281 Speaker 1: want to say things interesting, But how does it make 243 00:10:39,321 --> 00:10:39,841 Speaker 1: you feel? 244 00:10:39,881 --> 00:10:42,201 Speaker 2: Because that would help me under okay, And the way 245 00:10:42,201 --> 00:10:44,681 Speaker 2: that it makes me feel is that and this is 246 00:10:44,681 --> 00:10:47,241 Speaker 2: obviously a projection, right, this is not necessarily true. This 247 00:10:47,401 --> 00:10:48,361 Speaker 2: is what would be very true. 248 00:10:48,361 --> 00:10:48,561 Speaker 1: Though. 249 00:10:50,201 --> 00:10:52,881 Speaker 2: What my mind thinks of is like, oh, she's not happy, 250 00:10:52,921 --> 00:10:55,321 Speaker 2: but she doesn't want to say yeah because it's a 251 00:10:55,361 --> 00:10:57,281 Speaker 2: delayed thing. Oh yeah. And then it's like if there's 252 00:10:57,321 --> 00:11:00,521 Speaker 2: nothing said afterwards, and I'm like, or what does she think? 253 00:11:00,721 --> 00:11:02,801 Speaker 2: How she feeling? What's going through my mind right now? 254 00:11:02,841 --> 00:11:04,481 Speaker 2: And then I start to project. 255 00:11:04,281 --> 00:11:09,761 Speaker 1: And without transparency, there's uncertainty yea, which is not safe. Yeah, yes, 256 00:11:09,841 --> 00:11:12,081 Speaker 1: that makes so much sense. And yeah, for me, it's 257 00:11:12,161 --> 00:11:15,001 Speaker 1: just take a moment you're triggered or you're upset, or 258 00:11:15,001 --> 00:11:17,121 Speaker 1: you're not sure. Sometimes I'm not sure how to communicate 259 00:11:17,121 --> 00:11:19,161 Speaker 1: that I'm not happy. Yeah, I just need a moment 260 00:11:19,201 --> 00:11:20,961 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, maybe I'll ask her some more 261 00:11:21,041 --> 00:11:22,321 Speaker 1: questions to give me time to think. 262 00:11:22,161 --> 00:11:24,481 Speaker 2: About what I want to say, right, okay, because I'm. 263 00:11:24,361 --> 00:11:26,921 Speaker 1: Just still working on my way to communicate and have 264 00:11:27,001 --> 00:11:30,921 Speaker 1: a voice in a productive kind way, yes, rather just 265 00:11:30,961 --> 00:11:33,041 Speaker 1: being like oh fuck that or I feel like that's. 266 00:11:32,881 --> 00:11:34,321 Speaker 2: Been a huge thing for you as well, Like you're 267 00:11:34,321 --> 00:11:37,201 Speaker 2: always conscious of not being passive aggressive or having the 268 00:11:37,241 --> 00:11:40,281 Speaker 2: dagular stuff. You've had wounds in the past where you've 269 00:11:40,321 --> 00:11:42,121 Speaker 2: been that, so it's like you're overly conscious now of 270 00:11:42,121 --> 00:11:43,761 Speaker 2: making sure that you're not showing up in that way 271 00:11:43,961 --> 00:11:46,441 Speaker 2: because you don't want to create. I want to be 272 00:11:46,521 --> 00:11:48,801 Speaker 2: the most conscious version of yourself to communicate in the 273 00:11:48,801 --> 00:11:50,561 Speaker 2: best way, so I can understand. 274 00:11:50,241 --> 00:11:52,321 Speaker 1: Why I think I would speak before I've thought but 275 00:11:52,401 --> 00:11:54,961 Speaker 1: in the past. Yeah, So I'm just trying to practice 276 00:11:55,321 --> 00:11:58,281 Speaker 1: taking a moment. But Steve says, he says the same 277 00:11:58,321 --> 00:12:01,081 Speaker 1: things he'll notice, like a high pitch voice, for example, 278 00:12:01,081 --> 00:12:02,921 Speaker 1: this is just fluffy, But did you like me and 279 00:12:02,961 --> 00:12:05,201 Speaker 1: like cook And I'm like, yeah, it was good, but 280 00:12:05,881 --> 00:12:07,401 Speaker 1: I think it's spicy as like you hate it. 281 00:12:07,441 --> 00:12:08,841 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, it didn't taste red. 282 00:12:09,441 --> 00:12:11,961 Speaker 1: But I've had that moment to them be like, oh, actually, 283 00:12:12,361 --> 00:12:13,681 Speaker 1: I don't want to offend him and be like it 284 00:12:13,721 --> 00:12:14,681 Speaker 1: was fucking disgusting. 285 00:12:15,241 --> 00:12:18,041 Speaker 2: So I just need a bit of time to Yeah, 286 00:12:18,081 --> 00:12:19,881 Speaker 2: And you know what, taking time is actually a good 287 00:12:19,921 --> 00:12:22,841 Speaker 2: thing because then it's like you're not having to undo stuff, 288 00:12:23,201 --> 00:12:25,521 Speaker 2: You're not having to clean up mess that you've made. 289 00:12:25,601 --> 00:12:27,921 Speaker 2: If if you maybe react in the way and not 290 00:12:27,961 --> 00:12:30,961 Speaker 2: saying you'd react badly, but taking space in those moments 291 00:12:31,041 --> 00:12:32,921 Speaker 2: is so good because then you can consciously think, like, 292 00:12:33,161 --> 00:12:35,161 Speaker 2: this is what I want to say. It's also a 293 00:12:35,201 --> 00:12:36,001 Speaker 2: trauma response. 294 00:12:36,041 --> 00:12:38,441 Speaker 1: So now I'm thinking about it because I feel like 295 00:12:38,521 --> 00:12:40,761 Speaker 1: I could say my truth with you and you'd be 296 00:12:40,761 --> 00:12:42,721 Speaker 1: able to hold it because you know my intentions aren't 297 00:12:42,721 --> 00:12:46,281 Speaker 1: malicious and I'm just being honest. But I think in 298 00:12:46,321 --> 00:12:48,281 Speaker 1: the past people that haven't been able to hold that 299 00:12:48,521 --> 00:12:51,561 Speaker 1: might have questioned my intention behind it. So now it's 300 00:12:51,561 --> 00:12:53,961 Speaker 1: a trauma response of like, actually, that's right. 301 00:12:54,001 --> 00:12:56,761 Speaker 2: It was spoken about this before where you were like, oh, 302 00:12:56,801 --> 00:12:59,321 Speaker 2: sorry if that was too direct, and there's been times 303 00:12:59,441 --> 00:13:01,361 Speaker 2: we've been mindful of that you'd been like, I'm so 304 00:13:01,401 --> 00:13:02,961 Speaker 2: sorry if I was too direct. I'm like, no, like 305 00:13:03,001 --> 00:13:04,401 Speaker 2: bring it in, but I think you're going to leave. 306 00:13:04,441 --> 00:13:07,921 Speaker 1: I think that's an issues in the past, there's being 307 00:13:07,961 --> 00:13:10,641 Speaker 1: friends that have said it's too much, or you shouldn't 308 00:13:10,641 --> 00:13:12,921 Speaker 1: say that, or that's too loud or too aggressive, or 309 00:13:13,481 --> 00:13:14,921 Speaker 1: you know, you should keep that to yourself. 310 00:13:15,561 --> 00:13:17,201 Speaker 2: I didn't need to hear that. I didn't ask you 311 00:13:17,241 --> 00:13:19,681 Speaker 2: for that. You know, those kind of comments fucked. 312 00:13:19,921 --> 00:13:21,401 Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's a bit of a trauma response. 313 00:13:21,481 --> 00:13:24,321 Speaker 1: Now it's like a bit more hesitant. Yeah, but that's 314 00:13:24,361 --> 00:13:25,481 Speaker 1: not you think that's a me thing? 315 00:13:25,641 --> 00:13:27,681 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Isn't it crazy? Though? When we have 316 00:13:27,761 --> 00:13:30,921 Speaker 2: those experiences, it doesn't matter who you're weird, it'll still 317 00:13:30,961 --> 00:13:32,641 Speaker 2: come up if you like comet. 318 00:13:32,521 --> 00:13:35,521 Speaker 1: Super aware of it though, Yeah, yeah, just navigating how 319 00:13:35,521 --> 00:13:37,121 Speaker 1: to ye still use my voice? 320 00:13:37,121 --> 00:13:43,361 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's tricky. Yeah, I'm a work in progress. Okay, 321 00:13:43,881 --> 00:13:49,441 Speaker 2: one thing I will change about you. Okay, I got two. Okay, 322 00:13:50,681 --> 00:13:53,201 Speaker 2: one's funny and one's really serious. Okay. 323 00:13:53,801 --> 00:13:56,001 Speaker 1: The first one is just to charge your flucking phone. 324 00:13:56,321 --> 00:13:57,281 Speaker 1: It gives me anxiety. 325 00:13:57,961 --> 00:13:59,441 Speaker 2: It gives me actual anxiety. 326 00:13:59,641 --> 00:14:01,561 Speaker 1: It'd be we're the gym and at six am, just 327 00:14:01,601 --> 00:14:04,561 Speaker 1: a guy, I'm only on fifteen percent. I'm like, and 328 00:14:04,561 --> 00:14:06,521 Speaker 1: this isn't me thing too, why don't you charge your phone? 329 00:14:06,761 --> 00:14:09,241 Speaker 1: Mine gets below fifty percent. I'm looking for my charge. 330 00:14:09,321 --> 00:14:09,681 Speaker 2: It's true. 331 00:14:10,081 --> 00:14:11,681 Speaker 1: And maybe because I'm a mum, I just have to 332 00:14:11,721 --> 00:14:14,761 Speaker 1: be on high alert that if my nanny needs me 333 00:14:14,961 --> 00:14:17,361 Speaker 1: or the school calls me, I just have to have charge. 334 00:14:17,681 --> 00:14:19,721 Speaker 1: I never go anywhere without it's literally right next to me, 335 00:14:19,801 --> 00:14:22,281 Speaker 1: my portable charger. All the time for your phone to 336 00:14:22,321 --> 00:14:24,121 Speaker 1: be charged. That would be my number one and the 337 00:14:24,201 --> 00:14:26,361 Speaker 1: number two thing I've noticed, and I've spoken to you 338 00:14:26,361 --> 00:14:28,881 Speaker 1: about this so it won't be a shock. And Steve's 339 00:14:28,921 --> 00:14:31,401 Speaker 1: also You've got an isolationship with Steve and he's told 340 00:14:31,401 --> 00:14:33,041 Speaker 1: you as well. Is just we feel that you get 341 00:14:33,041 --> 00:14:38,321 Speaker 1: a bit influenced and lose your voice in relationships. They 342 00:14:38,321 --> 00:14:41,041 Speaker 1: can say a passing comment about the way you're doing 343 00:14:41,081 --> 00:14:44,241 Speaker 1: things or showing up or saying or social media presence, 344 00:14:44,841 --> 00:14:47,321 Speaker 1: you'll take it like gospel, like you change it, and 345 00:14:47,321 --> 00:14:49,081 Speaker 1: you'll do it to fit in with them. And I 346 00:14:49,081 --> 00:14:51,401 Speaker 1: think you kind of lose yourself and then you get 347 00:14:51,441 --> 00:14:54,321 Speaker 1: confused with what you're doing, and then you get stuck 348 00:14:54,881 --> 00:14:56,161 Speaker 1: and you don't know what to do or how to 349 00:14:56,161 --> 00:14:58,881 Speaker 1: show up. I wish for the future that your next 350 00:14:58,921 --> 00:15:01,481 Speaker 1: partner that isn't a thing and you just or even 351 00:15:01,481 --> 00:15:04,241 Speaker 1: if it was. You're so strong in your own beliefs 352 00:15:04,281 --> 00:15:05,561 Speaker 1: of knowing where you want to go and who you 353 00:15:05,561 --> 00:15:07,601 Speaker 1: are and what you want to post and how you 354 00:15:07,601 --> 00:15:10,561 Speaker 1: want to do things because you have so much confidence 355 00:15:10,601 --> 00:15:13,321 Speaker 1: within you until a man comes along and then little 356 00:15:13,361 --> 00:15:14,601 Speaker 1: parts of it just gets shut down. 357 00:15:14,641 --> 00:15:15,321 Speaker 2: I fucking hate it. 358 00:15:15,321 --> 00:15:18,281 Speaker 1: Because you're such a shining star. You're so bright in 359 00:15:18,361 --> 00:15:21,321 Speaker 1: my life, so obviously that being turned down a little bit, 360 00:15:21,361 --> 00:15:22,481 Speaker 1: I'm like, get really protective. 361 00:15:22,521 --> 00:15:24,441 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I hate it. 362 00:15:24,401 --> 00:15:27,641 Speaker 1: Yeah, really I feel tell me. I know I bring 363 00:15:27,641 --> 00:15:29,201 Speaker 1: it in, but it's from a place of love. I 364 00:15:29,241 --> 00:15:30,881 Speaker 1: love everything about you, and I don't think anything needs 365 00:15:30,921 --> 00:15:33,001 Speaker 1: to be changed. So the thought of someone influencing you 366 00:15:33,041 --> 00:15:35,321 Speaker 1: that you need to change, I'm like, how can you 367 00:15:35,401 --> 00:15:38,561 Speaker 1: change perfection? She's a twelve out of ten and always, 368 00:15:38,761 --> 00:15:39,121 Speaker 1: you know. 369 00:15:40,001 --> 00:15:43,841 Speaker 2: I definitely do do that. I feel that the men 370 00:15:43,881 --> 00:15:47,281 Speaker 2: that i'm especially if they're successful in business. You know, 371 00:15:47,401 --> 00:15:49,161 Speaker 2: this is my second business now and I have my 372 00:15:49,201 --> 00:15:52,201 Speaker 2: coaching business. But I think whenever I have somebody in 373 00:15:52,241 --> 00:15:54,601 Speaker 2: my life who I look up to or i'm inspired by, 374 00:15:54,721 --> 00:15:56,961 Speaker 2: and that usually turns out to be my partners because 375 00:15:56,961 --> 00:15:59,601 Speaker 2: they're either really successful in business or have done or 376 00:15:59,641 --> 00:16:02,041 Speaker 2: are doing what I want to do. It's almost like 377 00:16:02,161 --> 00:16:04,881 Speaker 2: I've prioritize their opinion over my own when it comes 378 00:16:04,881 --> 00:16:08,561 Speaker 2: to put a business because it specifically is around business. Yes, 379 00:16:08,801 --> 00:16:11,081 Speaker 2: And when it comes to that, I'm like, they will 380 00:16:11,121 --> 00:16:13,681 Speaker 2: tell me something a piece of advice or you know, 381 00:16:13,761 --> 00:16:15,761 Speaker 2: I'll share with them and confide in them around something 382 00:16:15,761 --> 00:16:17,561 Speaker 2: in business, and then they'll give me advice, but you 383 00:16:17,601 --> 00:16:19,801 Speaker 2: should be doing this, and they're so convicted in what 384 00:16:19,801 --> 00:16:22,041 Speaker 2: they're doing, I'm like, oh, fuck, am I doing it 385 00:16:22,721 --> 00:16:23,201 Speaker 2: like wrong? 386 00:16:23,561 --> 00:16:23,841 Speaker 1: Yeah? 387 00:16:23,921 --> 00:16:26,001 Speaker 2: You know, and it's not changing it wrong, but like, oh, 388 00:16:26,001 --> 00:16:28,321 Speaker 2: could I be doing this better? That work better? Would 389 00:16:28,321 --> 00:16:29,961 Speaker 2: that work better? Would it work faster? Would it be 390 00:16:30,001 --> 00:16:32,241 Speaker 2: more efficient? Like? Is that the way that I need 391 00:16:32,281 --> 00:16:34,521 Speaker 2: to kind of go in life? And so I kind 392 00:16:34,521 --> 00:16:36,641 Speaker 2: of lean on theirs, But then I get further away 393 00:16:36,641 --> 00:16:39,321 Speaker 2: from what I genuinely want to do. So I'm thinking 394 00:16:39,321 --> 00:16:42,521 Speaker 2: about the way to do business based on what they're 395 00:16:42,561 --> 00:16:46,161 Speaker 2: doing instead of what I genuinely want deep down. And 396 00:16:46,201 --> 00:16:49,641 Speaker 2: then I start to question like my ability to make 397 00:16:49,681 --> 00:16:52,561 Speaker 2: decisions because I'm relying on them and not listening to 398 00:16:52,601 --> 00:16:55,641 Speaker 2: myself and changing. And then I get really wishy washy, 399 00:16:55,881 --> 00:16:57,721 Speaker 2: and then I start to kind of like get small. 400 00:16:58,121 --> 00:16:58,881 Speaker 2: Yeah you do. 401 00:16:59,201 --> 00:17:01,641 Speaker 1: I've just seen it twice now, so I just hope 402 00:17:01,681 --> 00:17:03,201 Speaker 1: for the next one that that's not even a thing, 403 00:17:03,281 --> 00:17:04,721 Speaker 1: or if it is, you're strong enough to be like, 404 00:17:05,201 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: it's your opinion. 405 00:17:05,921 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: It's definitely truly love what I'm doing. Yeah, it's definitely 406 00:17:08,281 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: definitely not of them. Think it's more of a meeting, 407 00:17:10,481 --> 00:17:12,321 Speaker 2: you know, because it's my choice to do that. It's 408 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: not that they're forcing me to do anything or saying 409 00:17:14,481 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 2: you have to do this or you're going to fail. 410 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,841 Speaker 2: They're not saying that they want the best for me. Yeah, 411 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,521 Speaker 2: And they've only given advice because they do want the best. 412 00:17:21,481 --> 00:17:23,201 Speaker 1: And based on their own experience and what they think, 413 00:17:23,201 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: which everyone can give you two cents like I can 414 00:17:24,921 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: give you my two cents compared to anyone around you, 415 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,761 Speaker 1: your parents, whatever, that's. 416 00:17:28,721 --> 00:17:32,281 Speaker 2: Right, And they give advice based on their mistakes, their failures, 417 00:17:32,321 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: things that they want to help me avoid paying for. 418 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: But it just so happens to be that it might 419 00:17:36,721 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: be different for what I truly want business. 420 00:17:39,321 --> 00:17:43,161 Speaker 1: So yeah, it makes so much sense. Yeah, all right, 421 00:17:44,521 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: are you truly happy right now in your. 422 00:17:46,801 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: Life duality babe? Yeah? Answer, I'm happy in one sense 423 00:17:52,561 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: where I'm happy with where I'm ad in life, what 424 00:17:55,721 --> 00:17:58,641 Speaker 2: we're doing with the podcast, Like the people in my life, 425 00:17:58,681 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: I have a lot of gratitude for those things, and 426 00:18:01,681 --> 00:18:03,961 Speaker 2: I'm really grateful to be able to just like wake 427 00:18:04,041 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: up every day and of a good life and breathe 428 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,641 Speaker 2: and have fresh water and have a roof over my head, 429 00:18:08,681 --> 00:18:11,321 Speaker 2: all those sorts of things. So grateful for the quality 430 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 2: of life that I live. But then in the same breath, 431 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: there's lots of discomfort as well, you know, discomfort of 432 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,281 Speaker 2: like growing this business with you and like pushing beyond challenges, 433 00:18:21,321 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: but personal challenges. There's grief. There's you know, holding the 434 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 2: people that you love in pain, like with everything that 435 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 2: you guys have just all gone through, do you know 436 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: what I mean? So there's breakups relationship, Yeah, just gone 437 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: through a breakup, So that's hard. Yeah. So there's a 438 00:18:34,481 --> 00:18:36,681 Speaker 2: lot of duality in life. So in one hand, yes, 439 00:18:36,721 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: there's a part of me that is happy, and then 440 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,801 Speaker 2: there's also a part of me that's also experiencing a 441 00:18:40,801 --> 00:18:43,321 Speaker 2: lot of like sadness at the moment of just like, 442 00:18:43,481 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: oh my heart hurts a little bit. 443 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,241 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, my answer be very similar. Yeah, it's 444 00:18:48,241 --> 00:18:50,321 Speaker 1: weird to hold all I feel like. That's what twenty 445 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,961 Speaker 1: twenty five has been about, is actually stretching the capacity 446 00:18:53,001 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: to be able to hold all the emotions. Because I 447 00:18:55,241 --> 00:18:58,161 Speaker 1: felt like you're either really low and depressed and going 448 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,481 Speaker 1: through hard times or you're really happy in life's good. 449 00:19:00,961 --> 00:19:03,641 Speaker 1: Whereas I wake up each day and go to bed 450 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: each night with gratitude, love, excitement, and then also the deepest, 451 00:19:09,201 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: darkest grief and sadness and frustration and anger, And I 452 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,161 Speaker 1: like dip in and out of those. Yeah, that's why 453 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: I love end in the night and meditation because it 454 00:19:17,041 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: just like dissolves all of that and I just get 455 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:22,281 Speaker 1: to breathe my way to sleep. Yeah, so I'm not 456 00:19:22,321 --> 00:19:24,481 Speaker 1: going to bed with my head ticking out of all 457 00:19:24,521 --> 00:19:27,481 Speaker 1: the emotions. But yeah, I feel both too, a lot 458 00:19:27,521 --> 00:19:34,041 Speaker 1: of grief obviously, little rambo, frustration, anger, disappointment, like energy, 459 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,161 Speaker 1: and then yeah, fuck. 460 00:19:35,041 --> 00:19:37,041 Speaker 2: Your life's good. Yeah, I love life people. 461 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm excited even the challenges in business and life like, 462 00:19:40,521 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm excited for it all. Yeah, it's been of both 463 00:19:43,321 --> 00:19:46,561 Speaker 1: love that answer. Yeah, if you could have three wishes, 464 00:19:46,961 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: what would they be doing? Me to go first? I'll go, okay, 465 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,161 Speaker 1: you go, I just off the cast. 466 00:19:52,241 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: Yes, the first one would be for myself and all 467 00:19:54,681 --> 00:19:57,001 Speaker 2: the people that I love, to be completely financially free, 468 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: like never have to worry about money ever again. And 469 00:19:59,241 --> 00:20:01,281 Speaker 2: I say me and the people that I love, so 470 00:20:01,321 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: that we can all go on that journey together. So 471 00:20:03,441 --> 00:20:05,801 Speaker 2: I think like life is more beautiful when you're experiencing 472 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,481 Speaker 2: things together. The second one would be like endless opportunities. 473 00:20:11,201 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: Kind of life is like that anyway, but just like 474 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: endless opportunities for what it is that you want to 475 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,561 Speaker 2: do in terms of what you do it create and 476 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,161 Speaker 2: the impact that you can have through those endless opportunities. 477 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: Can I say like endless wishes? 478 00:20:24,281 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: No, So Taj actually asked me this question. Yeah, and 479 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,241 Speaker 1: they said that was the run rules. You can't wish 480 00:20:29,241 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: for more wishes? 481 00:20:30,001 --> 00:20:32,281 Speaker 2: Okay. Three he asked me this last week randomly in 482 00:20:32,321 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: the car, is like, this is a cool question. The 483 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: last thing I would say is for everyone to be 484 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: able to experience fulfillment, love and for all that's lovely. Yeah, 485 00:20:42,721 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: that's really cool. How are you Mine? 486 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: Is no animal cruelty, no starvation, beautiful kills me. I 487 00:20:49,681 --> 00:20:53,041 Speaker 1: just no one should ever go without food, water, and 488 00:20:53,281 --> 00:20:56,041 Speaker 1: unlimited money, because then I can help unlimited families, like 489 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: all the medical bills I get sent so many go 490 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: fundments every single day in the amount of families that 491 00:21:00,241 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: need money to cover medical bills, a never ending problem 492 00:21:04,921 --> 00:21:05,561 Speaker 1: in the world. 493 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: And the experiences you. 494 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,041 Speaker 1: Could take all your friends and family on, Yeah, they 495 00:21:09,041 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: could all be financially free. Yeah. If you had to 496 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: make so much impact and I know I was to 497 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:16,121 Speaker 1: come across that kind of money, the good I would 498 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: do with it, Yeah, it wouldn't be wasted. 499 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. 500 00:21:18,761 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: Last one, it's quite a big question time. What is 501 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:25,361 Speaker 1: your dream life? Would it be different to how you're 502 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:28,481 Speaker 1: living now? You had your dream life, your dream routine, 503 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: dream day every day, what would that look like? And 504 00:21:30,921 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: think like dream, I think big, Like would you have 505 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: a driver? Would you have a chef? 506 00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:36,761 Speaker 2: Like all the big things have I'd have a big 507 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,481 Speaker 2: like luxury home one, I'd have a chef. Yeah, I'd 508 00:21:40,481 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: have like a housekeeper. Yeah. If I had children, I 509 00:21:42,721 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 2: would have a nanny to help with that. Unlimited resources 510 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,521 Speaker 2: in terms of being able to like travel, go places, 511 00:21:48,801 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: get whatever it is in my flight when whenever I want. 512 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:54,281 Speaker 2: But the vision that I seen for myself is like 513 00:21:54,321 --> 00:21:56,761 Speaker 2: being able to eventually be a mom. Right, But I 514 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: want to be able to be like on stages, like 515 00:21:59,441 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 2: I want to be able to create impact and a 516 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,241 Speaker 2: large scale one that seems so far beyond fucking possible 517 00:22:04,281 --> 00:22:07,001 Speaker 2: of what I'm currently doing now it scares the shit 518 00:22:07,041 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: out of me. 519 00:22:07,761 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: Like I want to talk like a talk like I 520 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: would love to do that. 521 00:22:11,521 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: Do stadiums full of people talking like it's terrifying, But 522 00:22:15,241 --> 00:22:16,961 Speaker 2: it also is like the growth that you would have 523 00:22:17,001 --> 00:22:19,321 Speaker 2: as a person. For me to be able to create 524 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:22,561 Speaker 2: that for myself would be so fulfilling. And working on 525 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: a project that big with so many people around you, 526 00:22:25,441 --> 00:22:27,801 Speaker 2: I feel like would be such a beautiful thing to experience, 527 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: so cool that the part like I obviously want to 528 00:22:30,481 --> 00:22:34,401 Speaker 2: find like my person who you know person, but who 529 00:22:34,441 --> 00:22:37,121 Speaker 2: even is your person? But the body and Clyde kind 530 00:22:37,201 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 2: of union, Like I've always just really wanted, like a 531 00:22:40,281 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: union with somebody to like create and build and like 532 00:22:42,921 --> 00:22:45,561 Speaker 2: make all of these things possible. So that and just 533 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,361 Speaker 2: living a good quality life. Yeah, so always reaching for growth, 534 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,321 Speaker 2: but living simultaneously really good quality of life and being happy. 535 00:22:53,521 --> 00:22:54,281 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. 536 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like might be pretty similar. I truly 537 00:22:56,721 --> 00:22:59,001 Speaker 1: do love my life. I feel like we're outgrowing the 538 00:22:59,041 --> 00:23:01,001 Speaker 1: home we're in, which makes me sad because whenever we 539 00:23:01,001 --> 00:23:03,921 Speaker 1: start looking at homes to buy, which I reckon will 540 00:23:03,921 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: probably buy one by the year, I would hope, But 541 00:23:07,201 --> 00:23:09,561 Speaker 1: the thought of leaving our street and our home. Our 542 00:23:09,561 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: home is not a huge mansion at the moment, but 543 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,441 Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't describe. And I walked into 544 00:23:13,521 --> 00:23:15,201 Speaker 1: this home that we live and now we bought, it. 545 00:23:15,201 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: Just felt like home. 546 00:23:16,441 --> 00:23:19,401 Speaker 1: And I was really craving a massive backyard and a 547 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,321 Speaker 1: massive pool. I wanted a playground, which we just got, 548 00:23:22,561 --> 00:23:25,041 Speaker 1: big trampline, a big pool. That was my main focus. 549 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,561 Speaker 1: It wasn't even more the inside of the house. I 550 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: just wanted that. So when a crame across this property, 551 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: it had the biggest backyard. And then all their neighbors 552 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,201 Speaker 1: there's one, two, three them. They all have toddlers, all 553 00:23:35,201 --> 00:23:38,201 Speaker 1: have kids, and we all hang out and in the afternoons. 554 00:23:38,241 --> 00:23:38,841 Speaker 2: It's just beautiful. 555 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: And I feel so protected, Like even when Steve when 556 00:23:40,681 --> 00:23:43,241 Speaker 1: I went to Sydney, or if I go away Nathan, 557 00:23:43,281 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: which I've spoken to him about the podcast on the 558 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,521 Speaker 1: podcast before, he's always just checking in. I feel so 559 00:23:47,561 --> 00:23:49,761 Speaker 1: safe having him there, and there's two other dads. I 560 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,001 Speaker 1: just love our neighborhood. And I've never ever lived in 561 00:23:52,001 --> 00:23:55,041 Speaker 1: a neighborhood where neighbors have been so friendly and so supportive, 562 00:23:55,041 --> 00:23:57,481 Speaker 1: and we're all in the same journey of life with kids. 563 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,481 Speaker 2: Yes, it's really cool, but yeah, I feel like we're 564 00:24:00,521 --> 00:24:03,281 Speaker 2: out growing the home. I was like, more space. I 565 00:24:03,281 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: want a bigger kitchen. 566 00:24:04,241 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: The kids' rooms are really tiny, so I see that 567 00:24:07,481 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: for us, I would definitely have a chef. We've had 568 00:24:09,481 --> 00:24:11,281 Speaker 1: a chef before until he stole off us and we 569 00:24:11,321 --> 00:24:13,321 Speaker 1: had to get rid of him. That's crazy, just crazy, 570 00:24:13,521 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: but it was awesome having a chef. We have a 571 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,041 Speaker 1: cleaner and she's amazing, but probably get one more often. Yeah, 572 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: I need a roabo back, honestly, with those ones that 573 00:24:21,201 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: just like cleans the house. And just more freedom for Steve. 574 00:24:26,681 --> 00:24:29,041 Speaker 1: I think I have quite a lot of freedom now. 575 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,481 Speaker 1: I can travel and do things, and my work isn't 576 00:24:32,521 --> 00:24:34,561 Speaker 1: relyingt on me being in there all day every day, 577 00:24:34,561 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: whereas Steve it is. So I'd love more freedom for 578 00:24:38,481 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: him to be able to travel and do more and 579 00:24:41,281 --> 00:24:44,561 Speaker 1: say with my family. But yeah, there's a lot more 580 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,481 Speaker 1: I would change. I'd make this a full time gig 581 00:24:47,041 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: and being on stage with you. Yeah, like doing an 582 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:52,401 Speaker 1: international live too. We would go national first, but eventually 583 00:24:52,441 --> 00:24:54,841 Speaker 1: going overseas and being able to have a stadium full 584 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: of people that come along to our events would be 585 00:24:57,201 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: so cool. 586 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: That's literally what I mean. 587 00:24:58,721 --> 00:25:02,121 Speaker 1: Our first event had twenty two paid tickets, This next 588 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,561 Speaker 1: one's had fifty paid tickets, and then our next one 589 00:25:04,681 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: is two f And I feel like we're just going 590 00:25:06,281 --> 00:25:08,041 Speaker 1: to increase each time, which is really cool. 591 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: It is really fun. It's fun seeing it grow in stages. 592 00:25:11,281 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: It is like because the vision is like unlimited of 593 00:25:14,281 --> 00:25:16,721 Speaker 2: like and do with it, and it's just so much fun. 594 00:25:16,921 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 2: It's so much fun. Cool. Well that's all my cousins 595 00:25:19,481 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: I've got for you. I love it. Have you guys enjoyed? 596 00:25:21,721 --> 00:25:24,401 Speaker 1: And I hope you also reflect on your own questions 597 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: when we ask them, Like even if you going to 598 00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:29,561 Speaker 1: rewind and pause and write down your answers, it would 599 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: be so cool. And if you want to share anything 600 00:25:30,961 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: but a Facebook forum, she writes, community, come on in 601 00:25:33,721 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: there and extend the conversation and we'll see you Friday. 602 00:25:37,761 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. Bye bye