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Speaker 1: A number.

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Speaker 2: Damn, this is Sas Australia.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what we're getting used to these fellas now.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to see them face to face.

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Speaker 3: I don't want them barking orders at me, Sarah. Never

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Speaker 3: our celebrities are getting used to them and this man

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Speaker 3: fascinating life Mark Billy Billingham.

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Speaker 1: Billy, thanks for the invite, guys. It's a pleasure to

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Speaker 1: be with you, Billy.

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Speaker 4: Now that everybody knows your face, what is the one

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Speaker 4: thing people say to you, give me your number?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: Is there a catchphrase that people yell out on the

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Speaker 4: street give me your number?

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Speaker 1: They actually do?

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Speaker 5: I do get quite a bit, but most people sort

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Speaker 5: of see me and they'll.

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Speaker 1: Sort of hesitate to come over and see something. And

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Speaker 1: then you're actually not as nasty as you see them

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Speaker 1: on TV? Mate.

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Speaker 3: Is there a moment where the producers pull you boys

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Speaker 3: aside and go, hey, guys, you're doing a great job,

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Speaker 3: but maybe can you maybe cut.

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Speaker 6: Down on the swearing a little bit, lads.

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Speaker 5: No, they don't actually say it, if I'm honest, but

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Speaker 5: you can see it by their reactions. Obviously, you get

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Speaker 5: glimps of sidelines and you just see them go. There's editing,

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Speaker 5: so we can't get around a lot of it, and

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Speaker 5: to be honest, it's we do kind of drop drop

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Speaker 5: the F bomb a little bit too often.

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Speaker 4: But that's part of it, though, isn't it. I Mean,

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Speaker 4: that's the nature of trying to keep them in the

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Speaker 4: zone of of what the what the task is.

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Speaker 1: Well, it absolutely is. There's no rehearsals. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much you know about the show. There's no rehearsals

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Speaker 1: to it. There's no script.

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Speaker 5: It just runs and it's four mercery guys together, so

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Speaker 5: you can imagine every other word is an F word anyway,

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Speaker 5: and it just goes with whatever's happening at the time,

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Speaker 5: whatever situation is happening and now.

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Speaker 1: It needs dealing with, is exactly what we do.

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Speaker 5: We just go bang, you know, based on experience, and

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Speaker 1: We're back in the unit or in the regiment, so

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the question I've been wondering why I've been

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Speaker 4: watching it. When you give examples like if someone does

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Speaker 4: a real life situation, this would have happened having been

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Speaker 4: someone that was you know, you've been part of the

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Speaker 4: SAS since ninety one and you're a Mountain Troops specialist.

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Speaker 4: Can you give us a lesson that you learned while

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Speaker 5: May I think on every mission I've been on, you

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Speaker 5: end up in a situation that you weren't expecting.

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Speaker 1: You know, we planned for everything. You get as much

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Speaker 5: Yes, And I think I've become wise pretty quickly to go,

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Speaker 5: you know what, as soon as we step off this

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Speaker 5: into it, this ain't going to happen. It's going to

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Speaker 5: go different, and just be prepared, be flexible, to be

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Speaker 5: going ship. We were expecting three times and numbers against us.

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Speaker 5: Always unexpected kind of thing. So yeah, we had a

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Speaker 4: So times where you thought I'm not going to get

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Speaker 1: Many many times.

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Speaker 5: You know, I had situations where I've come face to

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Speaker 5: and You've just gone, Wow, I come out of that, billy.

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Speaker 3: It must be you would have had a lot of

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Speaker 3: When you when you decided to hang it up and say,

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Speaker 5: It was difficult, because it's like anything, you know, you

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Speaker 1: And our life was tough and wild, but that was

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Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, I got offered a

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me give this a goal.

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Speaker 5: The weirdest thing for me about this was I spent

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Speaker 5: I'm now on every flipping magazine. I'm like, how was

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Speaker 5: the hardest thing?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 5: Seeing yourself on a store and they're walking down with celebrities,

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Speaker 5: and and then but realizing, hang on a minute, I

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Speaker 5: don't need to be aggressive. What I need to do

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Speaker 5: now is start using my brain more than my sort

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Speaker 7: Just about So, who was the hardest celebrity to bodyguard for?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 7: Who who would get the most approached or who did

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Speaker 1: I think he was at Middleton.

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Speaker 6: He's always needed help, hasn't he? He has always needed help.

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Speaker 3: Yah.

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's gotta be Brad and Angie.

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Speaker 5: I suppose you know, because you don't realize how much

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Speaker 5: people want good news and bad news from people you know,

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Speaker 5: and you realize you're thinking, in the middle of nowhere,

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Speaker 5: everything's great. And also you stick ahead on there somebody

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, which is sad Ruey.

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Speaker 5: But I guess I was always on my tours with

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Speaker 3: You know, what about what about stalkers with them, Billieve,

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Speaker 3: they would have had separate stalkers just for Brad and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, you do. And and you know, you get

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Speaker 5: Basically you teach them all a store because you keep

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Speaker 5: it's a love relationships.

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Speaker 5: It's a guy early was the morning turn up on set,

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Speaker 5: And then I did some research on him, just going

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Speaker 1: Of thing to do regular look at the crowd and

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Speaker 6: Oh wow, that's a yeah, I see, you have to.

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Speaker 5: Be aware and there was nothing wrong with him. It

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Speaker 5: was just to me that was a bit that must

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, Well, Billy, what would you do. Let's say

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Speaker 4: in charge of security. What was the process in terms

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Speaker 4: out the room? I mean, what did you have to

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Speaker 5: I mean you have to go through everything, you know,

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Speaker 5: can provide security, you know, amongst people that you know, because.

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Speaker 1: You don't know anybody in the hotel, and there's all

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Speaker 5: In hotels, you know, so you have to do it

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Speaker 5: literally is you're talking like a two day process of

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Speaker 1: Reconnaissance, check out shows. And you've got to keep it

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Speaker 1: under the radar as well. The issues you get is if.

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Speaker 5: You've become too popular being around the slabs all the time,

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Speaker 5: when you turn up people and sort of recognize you

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Speaker 6: That's yeah, right, okay, So you had to.

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Speaker 7: Did you see that Kim Kardashian robbery and see could

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Speaker 7: you see where that went wrong? Because she had a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I mean talk about inside job. I

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: And that's the artist part of being a bodyguard or

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Speaker 5: And if you don't you haven't got a good rapport

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Speaker 5: and you don't feel comfortable, then you've got to stand

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I don't need this, I don't want this.

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Speaker 5: Don't know exactly what happened actually got robbed in Paris,

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Speaker 5: and the record was an inside job, I would say,

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Speaker 1: To make a guess, it probably was yeah, yeah, stop

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Speaker 1: You go sort of sketch and you've.

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Speaker 5: Just got to look at all sort of options and

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Speaker 5: just you suspect the people closest to you, especially when

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Speaker 5: it's very very personal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Billy, can you tell us the story. It was

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Speaker 4: two thousand and two, you were in Rome with Tom Cruise,

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Speaker 4: so it was a bit of a bit of a

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Speaker 1: Mate.

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Speaker 6: Was something interesting happened.

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Speaker 1: There, Something just walked into my garden.

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Speaker 6: Bought out the nine milk. He's on, Billy.

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Speaker 1: I'm just shut the party.

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Speaker 6: Can you tell us what happened in Rome with Tom Cruise?

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Speaker 6: Someone approach approached you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll keep it as as possibly count.

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Speaker 5: So basically I never met him before Before I got there,

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Speaker 5: as you just alluded to went, I checked out the hotel,

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Speaker 5: checked out roots and checked out people, did everything I

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Speaker 1: When I got to the hotel and was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be all in come net I. No one was supposed

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Speaker 1: to know we're going to be there. There was already

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Speaker 1: a crowd of a couple of hundred people. I damn,

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Speaker 1: I on my own and I'm going to deal with this.

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Speaker 5: So I thought, right, think on your feet, right anyway,

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Speaker 5: I've grabbed this guy, Italian paparatic god but spoke English.

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Speaker 1: I says, what's the deal. He goes, Tom Cruise is

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Speaker 1: coming because is that right?

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Speaker 5: And he goes, yeah, he's coming away And I goes, okay,

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Speaker 5: yeah he is coming. I said, I tell you I'm

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Speaker 5: his bodyguard.

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Speaker 1: He's the deal.

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Speaker 1: I had no choice. He didn't know that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what's going to happen anyway, So said, what

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Speaker 5: There's one way in and out.

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Speaker 1: Says let us.

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Speaker 5: Let me have a clear walk to the entrance with him,

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Speaker 5: and I'll stop ten seconds before you can get your photographs.

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Speaker 1: Is that ideal? He goes, yeah, that's a deal.

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Speaker 1: So when I pick up Tom, I talked to him.

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Speaker 5: I says, you stand the car when we get there,

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Speaker 5: I'll get out and looking for I'll call him Pablo.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking for Pablo, and I'm like, where is he?

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. Everybody just out the way. Wow.

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Speaker 5: We walked to the front entrance and it was a

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Speaker 1: So I grabbed this finger. The three of us fall

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Speaker 5: Doorway and as I've got him in a headlock and

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Speaker 5: I've got this thing in a headlock, he looks to

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Speaker 5: me and he goes, oh, Billy, meet Penelope my girlfriend.

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Speaker 6: Just the ground.

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Speaker 1: We had a proper introduction after.

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Speaker 2: Oh we'll get you back on and talk about our celebrities,

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Speaker 2: but they say it's Australia seven my IR religion.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on the show, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the invite, guys and the back over its.

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