1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Better than the legal better than lego coops, the two 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: eliminated terms. The Dog's best story of the season. Uh 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Cameron Serrella wented the season under a degree of pressure, 4 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: probably self imposed, probably pressure on himself. Made he was 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: He was fantastic. He's proven himself as the coach. 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Every thought he was the worst defensive team last year. 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: Shot to the top of the defensive sharts and for 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: the majority of that game where the dominant team and 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: probably should have gone on to win. He changed the 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: style in terms of he went after let's say, character 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: and workers and guys who could tackle, move, be effective 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: as opposed to sort of talent and size. I thought, 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: you know, there are a couple of I thought Kickout 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: was tremendous. Like I thought, he's balanced between intimidation defensively 15 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: running the ball into halfbacks. But then some of the 16 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: skill that he can transfer across and south the outside 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: that I thought he was terrific. But I'll tell you what. 18 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: Their halves need more experience in big games because a 19 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: couple of their decisions cost them big time. 20 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: Yesterday in that second half. 21 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: They had a howling win behind their back, and all 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: they needed to do in that second half when things 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: got a bit crazy. Was kick earlier a couple of 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: times forced Manly to come off their trial one more 25 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: then give away a penalty, kick out, charge down and 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: a couple of errors that allowed those two tries to 27 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: Manly to win it. If they had a few more 28 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: big game experience, I think there's a few different changes 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: they probably. 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: Going to win that. 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: You're right, there were little moments in that second half 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: I see, like Josh Current to push that time to 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: the ground, your field positions like to give that away. 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: That's aggression, just billing over an ill disciplined. 35 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: So Manly, we're never going to get out of there 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: and end with that wind in their face. The only 37 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: way they were going to get out was through errors 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: and penalties from the Dogs, and that last play like 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: a trick like that was the only way they're going 40 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: to get out. If burn had had kicked earlier a 41 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 2: couple of occasions, I think it's a different result. 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: Right the Knights. Like last season, the best football come 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: at the back end of the year. But I think 44 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: it's time for the Knights. It's time to take that 45 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: next step. 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, crept. 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: Into the finals, but still haven't been able to really 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: establish themselves as a finals team, if that makes sense. 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: I don't go back as far as you, but I'll 50 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: tell you what exc Calen Ponger. That is the best 51 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: individual performance from a losing team in the final I 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: have seen. 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Been phenomenal. 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 3: He was so good. 55 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: He was Yeah, he was all forms of Superman for 56 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: the Knights on the weekend was he was tremendous. And 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: if they're going to do that next step, he needs 58 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: a bit to help. 59 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: They need they need. 60 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 2: A half like I think, look, Cogger's probably got, you know, 61 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: the fundamentals of the other half. It could be that 62 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: ConTroll in seven kick and create and provide space. But 63 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: they need someone else that's a little bit not as 64 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: dynamic as Kailyn because there's no one else around. 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: But they need. 66 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: Someone to compliment Kaylan with the footwork, the speed, the 67 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: break in the lines. Just something he can help on 68 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 2: the other side of the rock, because if Kaitlin doesn't 69 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: do it, and Bradman Best doesn't do it, there's not 70 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: enough more athleticism in around that spine ball plan that 71 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: can create that plan. 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: B Yeah, I'll tell you what. When plan it works 73 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: with Kaylen. 74 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: That's right, it's so good, you know, off the big 75 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: off season coming up capwise too, I mean off the field, 76 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to do. That. 77 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: That's the thing that we don't have any insight too. Right. 78 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: It's easy for us to say, look, get a half 79 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: or whatever, but they've obviously got some issues there. But 80 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: if they are to take that next step, I think 81 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: they need to find what out there, what their best 82 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: spine is. I think Cogga's the obvious one, but there 83 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: needs to be someone else that steps up that can 84 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: compliment that. 85 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: Some of the selections were unusual, like this year. You 86 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: know that they just chopped and changed with the spine, 87 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: which made it very hard to form combinations and the 88 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: core of the side, including I thought the Phoenix Crosslan 89 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 1: was having a storm of a year in dummy halfs 90 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 1: and then suddenly plucked out of there and put in seven. 91 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: I get why we critique coaches for chopping and changing, 92 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: but also put it back on the players. No one 93 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: stands up and grabs it. There's an opportunity there, Yep, 94 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: there's the seven jersey, it's yours. Six weeks later you change, Well, 95 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: something happened that play didn't grabbed that opportunity and then 96 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: I get it. So maybe the carrot was there to 97 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: be dangled and no one really took it. 98 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: For Dylan Lucas was the best place. Kal was the 99 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: best player. I thought he was. He was terrific. 100 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, very very good. 101 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: Dependth and the storm week one, how good? Well, how good? 102 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: Honestly man so good. Before we talk about na Isaiah, 103 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: I thought his performance was fantastic, very selfless performance because 104 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: he had Jerome Lewy in career best form, Nathan coming back, 105 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: and so I think in his own mind, I think 106 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: you thought, well, you know, I don't need to be 107 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: out there trying to create with my passing game still 108 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of it, but it was his running game. 109 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: It's the best running performance from Isaiah of just about soon. 110 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the word you use was selfless. And 111 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: even the Melbourne Storm like that on the weekend, when 112 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: one of your gun players is on play your role, 113 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: let that person go and then when you get an 114 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: opportunity you might be able to take advantage of it. 115 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, in terms of Isaiah, they always say that 116 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: he's the distributor and the connector. Well, they just played 117 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: the power game and punched the roosters first and they're 118 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: on the back foot from where we go, and he 119 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: just went with it. While Nathan was kicking, Jerome Leui 120 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: was dancing and running the selfless team first mentality of 121 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: both Penrith and Melbourne on the weekend with their spine 122 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: players was pretty impressive. 123 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: And Nathan he hasn't already or before, he certainly has 124 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: entered that next realm. 125 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: When the best was there another realm for him to enter. 126 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't maybe what you know, but when you sit there, 127 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: oftentimes people say, right, who's the best? 128 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: Ever? 129 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: They go It was a Joey was a Wally is 130 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: a JT you know. But Cameron Smith of course now 131 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: he's in that discussion. 132 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: One thing I will say about Nathan is he understands 133 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: his influence and impact for a guy that had a 134 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: left shoulder injury, who's coming up against and all the 135 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: talk was Angus Crichton dominated him. His first tackle on 136 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: Lindsey Collins, he didn't go to the wing, he went 137 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: straight to his normal position, whacked him with the left shower, 138 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: then went into Angus the next time that basically said 139 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: to the roosters will try and target me, I'm going 140 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: to come at you first and told the rest of 141 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: his teammates said, hey, listen, we're going to dominate this way, 142 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: and if I'm going to tell you to do it, 143 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: follow me time. 144 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,559 Speaker 3: Like it was a his performance. 145 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: Physically was, but his spirit and sort of ability to 146 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: tell everyone else what's happening it was pretty impressive as well. 147 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: And look at it when I say this, I'm not 148 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: insinuating players are soft, but there are some players that 149 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: just can't quite play with injury. And then you got 150 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: a bloke by Nathan and other players you could just compartmentalize, 151 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: can get out there and play a few times in 152 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: the game like Crean is doing. Oh surely you know 153 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: that we ran ran the charge down fell on a 154 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: loose ball. I'm thinking made Yeah, I was half expecting 155 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: it up and hold it. 156 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: Just you watch it closely. There's issues there. 157 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: He does go to grab a ball at one stage 158 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: pull it back, he does go to fall and rolls, 159 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: so there's a couple of things that he's very much aware. 160 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: But from the surface level he didn't give any indication. 161 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: But there's still an injury because there was a couple 162 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: of times where the ball was loose, they didn't actually 163 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: extend to grab it. 164 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, beautifully balanced spine. I mean clear is the centerpiece. 165 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: You've got to dill in there would who can play 166 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: like an extra forward, who just basically confustantly great. 167 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: He went up a level two millin like it's been 168 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: a big if him with Origin. Played rep foot at 169 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: the back end of last year and he had that 170 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: leg injury, but he was he was great, Like there 171 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: was something in the water out at Penrith for that. 172 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: First half over the oak Milk, Newcastle, Hexham shout out 173 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: of the hexam hornets the storm. 174 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: On the other side. 175 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: You talk about the impact of Cleary, there's a couple 176 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: of things in terms of Monsters in his career. When 177 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: he's dialed in, he runs the ball early in contests. 178 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 2: In his Big Origin debut, this is when he did 179 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: first run early in the contest. Cameron Monster doesn't wait 180 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: for the game, he goes to him. This was his 181 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: debut in seventeen. Look at the time here Game three 182 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: Origin Decider at Suncourt. Twenty seconds, second player of the game. 183 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: He's running the football. And then on the weekend, what's 184 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: months to do? Gets in the dummy art with a 185 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 2: minute less than two minutes. He uses up Big Nelson 186 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: and runs the footage. 187 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 188 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: If there's one thing you try and stop with Melbourne, 189 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: you have to stop their harves from running the football. 190 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: But the bigger the game, the more monster runs. He 191 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: had seventeen cars on the weekend. Wow, seventeen carriage. 192 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: You're right, early on he sets his compass. I'm going 193 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: to run the football. Just that's my tip. That's all 194 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: I'm going to do. You know it was coops. You know, 195 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: I was sitting there watching the game yesterday. I'm sorry 196 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: on Saturday, the Melbourne storm and look at the fourth crowd. 197 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: I went, I went to Melbourne. It's run. That organization 198 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: has done an incredible job. I remember going to Melbourne 199 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: for the first time in the early nineties. Rugby league 200 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: had no presence. It was almost like this foreign game. 201 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: And now the way that they've sold the game to 202 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: the Melbourne public, the way the Melbourne public have got 203 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: behind your club was amazing. And the Ears they just 204 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: don't they just don't subside. I mean the area has 205 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: got He had the Lazo naughty Nick how E when 206 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: they win the Company ninety nine under Chris Anderson. Then 207 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: you got the Kronk English Smith slay up Bellamy era 208 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: and now the next year again is Hughes, Munster, Grant, Pappenhausen, 209 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: Bellamire remains. But to be able to stay on top 210 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: all the time every time when you blokes retired Coops, 211 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: I thought to myself, so this is really it's going 212 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: to be a really testing time for Melbourne. How are 213 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: they going to go if suddenly they start to slip 214 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: down to the mid table, will they still get support 215 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: in Melbourne? They're showing no signs of going back. 216 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: Well, winning is king and consistency is the thing that 217 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 2: underpins Melbourne Storm for Craig's tenure anyway, So he is 218 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: the key to all that, is the consistent part of 219 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: all that. And I'll tell you what, like Penrith through 220 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: the first puncher made a statement in the first half 221 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: twenty four nilm and what Melbourne responded with the next 222 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: day was like, okay, well these two teams are on collision. 223 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: Cause I really liked what Melbourne in that second half 224 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: really shut down the Sharks, suffocate them and their best 225 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: players a bit like Isaiao, Cleary and Leui. When Munster 226 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: was on, they let him go. Then all of a 227 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: sudden the game shifted. Harry Grant scores three try starts 228 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: getting the craft, so they stepped back and then Jerome 229 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: Hughes come up with a couple of big players, so 230 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: they are a team first mentality spine. A lot of 231 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: teams could learn a lot of lessons from away their 232 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: spine operation. 233 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: Got interviewed Nathan Clear at the start of the year 234 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: the podcast and he said a turning point for that 235 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: playing group was when they're beaten by Melbourne in the 236 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: Grand Final. He said when they went back and had 237 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: a look at the tape, he said it was clear 238 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: to them that they were completely bullied. He said Melbourne 239 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: played like men, were playing like boys. He said, they 240 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: completely bullied us, and he said we made a decision 241 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: right there, no one will bully this again. In fact, 242 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: we're going to bully team. So that's when they started 243 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: to get a bit of criticism for pushing it, but 244 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: that was them establishing them solt of saying this is 245 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: what we're about. No one will stand over us, and. 246 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: That's why we spoke about this before. Paramatter should have 247 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 2: done exactly the same thing when they lost to Penrith, 248 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 2: but they didn't. They started going backwards and played the 249 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: spoon ball and if the Broncos don't fix up their issues. 250 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: They should have. 251 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: Judged what went wrong in that Grand Final because Penrith 252 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 2: did it. And they've gone like that since Melbourne of 253 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: whenever they've lost one have worked out what went wrong 254 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: and they've addressed it and gone that way. And that's 255 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: where the separation in the ladder. 256 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: Yes, it'll be interesting that they meet each other in 257 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: the Grand Final. It's almost full for you. And what's 258 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: remarkable about both those clubs is we seen with the 259 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: Broncos how tricky success can be. Coops. All the adulation, 260 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: you know. 261 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: It's not trigger at all. It's it's team first. It's 262 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 2: whatever helps the team trick better. 263 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: Not trigging for you with your personally grigging. I get 264 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: that for some people. You know, every year it wasn't 265 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: trigging for me. Too much success every year success, stop talking, 266 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: stop laughing. 267 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: Every year every team decides they want to win the trophy, right, 268 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 2: every decision you make at the training pack on the 269 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: field should be based on that team lifting that not 270 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 2: what can you get out. 271 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: Of the whole situation? 272 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: Sounds easy? Sounds yeah, manly that that particular playing group. 273 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: I think that's their greatest win one of those games, 274 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: not their greatest performance, but what they what they're up against, 275 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: the whole crowd against them, and for most of the game, 276 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: Dogs had the whip hand, And I think it's the 277 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: sort of game that the belief can give you a 278 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: lot of momentum going through the rest of the final series. 279 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: Tom Travoievich early in the game Coups, I thought, he's 280 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: not going to be able to get through this job. 281 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: And you know, talking about that playing group, one of 282 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: their greatest performances for Tom, not one of his greatest performances, 283 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: but I think one of his most important ones, given 284 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: the fact that he was nowhere near one hundred percent fit. 285 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: He was really struggling. But when they knewed it turned 286 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: it on. 287 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: When Crichton scored that try, you could see wanted to 288 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: extend that arm rolled over. He was obviously in pain. 289 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 2: Got another injection and more padding in at halftime. But 290 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: someone like him, it's like the presence, right, the presence 291 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: of Tom you have to respect, so you're going to 292 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: mark him up defensively no matter what. And I loved 293 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: what Cherry Evans and Brooks did. They used him up 294 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: as a bit of a bait or a bit of 295 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: a decoy, and ultimately they had to come up with players. 296 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: We spoke about the dogs stuffing up the kicking game 297 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: and giving them mainly an opportunity. If mainly were to 298 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: capitalize with that win in front of them, they had 299 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: to Whenever they got one chance, they had to take it. 300 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: And they got two chances on the weekend and they 301 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: took it. It's because Brooks and Cherry Evans were great. 302 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: There was the scrum play here, everything set to the 303 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: right hand side. They get their first opportunity, and that 304 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: is a brilliant play for a guy that's played two 305 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty games, not played finals match ball. 306 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: It's a blind pass. 307 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: Isn't a hell of a pass? Yeah? Yes, And if 308 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: anyone was going to break. 309 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: Open the game, that's a great shot. 310 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: If anyone's going to break up the game, it had 311 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: to be Cherry Evans. His second half was enormous, that 312 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: scrum play, and then the other one was the coler try. 313 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: The fact is they had a big breeze in front 314 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: of them and they weren't going to kick themselves to victory. 315 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: They had to come up with something. On the fifth play, 316 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: he runs a ball risk first reward with that offload 317 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: and then this is basically the try that wins in 318 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: the match. So Gola was speakers on the outside of 319 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: sexton and that's try time. But I love they had 320 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: two opportunities. Cherry Evans involved in both and they struck. 321 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: And Turbo plays a big part in here, cooked, underdone, 322 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: sore shoulder. But their gun players, when they needed it, 323 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: stood up. 324 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: I said this on the Sunday Night Show. He's a 325 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: bit of a fun fact for you, is that back 326 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: in the nineteenth in the seventies, well up until about 327 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: nine to eighty one eighty two, that's no try because 328 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: you could not score a try with one boot. If 329 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: you lost a boot, there was no try. You had 330 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: to score a try in full uniform. 331 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: What happens if you lost two boots? 332 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: No try, no tie. We don't talk cowboys shortly roosters. 333 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: I thought, what did you make of them? 334 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: I thought, emotionally, I thought they left in the barriers. 335 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: That's you know. And lotentimes people will say to you, 336 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: sports psychologists will get there and say, you know, before games, 337 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: you just got to keep yourself nice and calm, well balanced. 338 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: I disagree. 339 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: Sometimes, you know, we use that analogy of a heavyweight 340 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: boxer and you pumped up, you walk out in the 341 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: ring and then one on the just throws a jab, 342 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: hitching the nose in your eyes water. It was almost 343 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: like that, Like Fisher, Harris and Leota. It's like they 344 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: got together before the game said this is our last 345 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: roll together. Yep, let's do this, and just walked out 346 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: there and threw the first bunch and it put them 347 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: on the back. 348 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: Floor before we have a look at the first set 349 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: of six. Easy to say in hindsight, but at the time, 350 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: I know Spencer comes off the bench regularly. But Spencer 351 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: really he spoke through the week with a lot of 352 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: intent and given the fact that finals it's so essential 353 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: to be up emotionally, I thought he should have started 354 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: to match him and to match those the lead and 355 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: Fisher Harris, and to not get on the field until 356 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: it was twenty two nil. You actually his first run 357 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: he looked quite deflated. Yeah, you can imagine him. He's 358 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: pumped and he watching out try, try, Try. 359 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. I get that. 360 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 2: But then sort of leading into the game, you're thinking, Okay, 361 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: how can we win this? 362 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 3: What is Spencer that? 363 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 2: Like his performances in Origin were they were devastating off 364 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: the bench. Maybe the concept was that, you know, if 365 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: you can hold that game tight and Spencer comes out, 366 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: starts skittling defenders, gives a little bit of momentum. 367 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 3: But hindsight's of. 368 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: Course, we saw the Bulldogs the way they started really physical, 369 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: really up from emotionally. They're probably the Rooster's first set defensively, 370 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: and defense is what it's what it's all about, you know, 371 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: because when you're when you measure intent and desperation by 372 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: the energy you exert in defense. See like for me, 373 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: they're lacking aggression here, but this is the big one. 374 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: So they hit, they make their way to halfway. It's 375 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: a good set. But loure this Nathan Cleary, come on, 376 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: where's the pressure? And I mean that when I sit 377 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: watching the game, there I went Roosters were in trouble. 378 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: That play freaking Watch that again. Watch the position to do, 379 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 2: Watch the position of doing edwards, because I think they've 380 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: actually spotted something here in the Rooster's sort of last 381 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 2: play defense. He's sitting here, he's ready to run. He 382 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: is ready to run. That's the first set of a 383 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: big game. You're normally going to kick and chase he's 384 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: in a position to run here. He's only going to 385 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: play at the back or inside Limb Martin. Yeah, so 386 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: I think they just spotted something and the Rooster's defense 387 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: and went for it. 388 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: So pretty impressive. 389 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: There Sharks where they're disappointing. Yeh know, there was the kickoff, 390 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, those things can happen. 391 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: You've got to be able to number one defend that 392 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: error and number two forget about it and get on 393 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: with the game. 394 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: It pops the balloon a first thing like that. 395 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: But I thought they did well to get back in 396 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: and that tried just before halftime. 397 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: Melbourne's dominance in the first half, it was hard to 398 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: believe it was fourteen ten. Yeah, but what do you 399 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: make of their footy? I thought their football there was 400 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: a lack of decisiveness. And we said about this a 401 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: lot about the Sharks. Sharks play their best football when 402 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: they play direct, nice and north south power based aggression. 403 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: And you said before about Munster. If you want to 404 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: play a certain way, you've got to start. You've got 405 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: to set your compass right. Munster, he's a runner of 406 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: the football. He wants to play that way. First touches, 407 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: he runs. So let's talk about the Sharks. Yeah, they've 408 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: got to play north south. Want you have a look at 409 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: the this set. This is one of the first sets 410 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: they have. So you get a tap, tell a kite, nice, 411 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: nice and straight. 412 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: It's pretty nice. 413 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: That's very nice. Now, but this, you know, and you're 414 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: starting to get sideways. So next play again, first receiver 415 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: plays across. Then they come back into the middle with 416 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: nick a another first receiver play and they end up 417 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: making Look this next play they go again and have 418 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: another play and they make some meterage. But my problem 419 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: is coops for me just set their compass wrong. 420 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing there I pick up on that is 421 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: a lot of first receiver play at particularly early in 422 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: a big game. The line speed or you know that 423 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: the opposition get involved and defensively pushes that first receiver sideways, 424 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: and if it's a half, it's first receiver most likely 425 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: not going to run. Therefore that advantage line gets taken 426 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: away a bit. It's probably why Isa does a lot 427 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: of first receiver stuff because if that line speed comes up, 428 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 2: he can. 429 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: Just run the frond the ball. That's right. 430 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: Set them their compass more north south because they use 431 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: their He's got to skill that not too many other 432 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: people have. But when you put it half up to 433 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: touch the ball off the first receiver to get momentum, 434 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 2: that line speed can really stifle them. 435 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: And you know three off. 436 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: One of the things we've said about the Sharks is 437 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: do less. That's a perfect example of trying to do 438 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: too much in a set of seats. 439 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: What do you make of Niko. 440 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: You can see he's down, down in confidence. Well, we'll look. 441 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: I'll say this, it's your group. Put Nathan Cleary in there, 442 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: and I don't know how much impact Nathan would have 443 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: had given the fact that they were just smashed in 444 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: the artist battle. 445 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a nice direct play for the first try 446 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 2: the ball on Telly. Think his mindset was right there. 447 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: But this is the toughest competition in the world. Nothing 448 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 2: given to you. So my advice is to Nicko's keep going. Yeah, 449 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: don't balk now, this is a huge kind of test. 450 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: You know what, Nico, go watch some monster clips, Go 451 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 2: watch him North South early in the game. Nico, go 452 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: to dummy half and run the football on the second 453 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: set of six or something. Just go to the contest, 454 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 2: be physical and that should straighten him up and go 455 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: to the content he just needs to be more aggressive. 456 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: I'd sit him, double down on aggression and keep going 457 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: so true. 458 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: I'd sit him and trendle down and say, Tricky, I 459 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: want you to run the show. I want you with 460 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: the true shot caller, Nika. I want you to play 461 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: in the halves like a fullback. That's what I want 462 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: you to do. I want you to play your fullback 463 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: game and just run the football. I want you to relax, 464 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: float around the field. And I think that would leave 465 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 1: he had a lot of pressure in the build up 466 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: to the game in his own mind. 467 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: One little thing where you can say, if the Sharks 468 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: kick off, the halfback always sort of goes the wing defensively. 469 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: If that media kickoff, Nico, you go park yourself at 470 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 2: your normal position, fly down there and. 471 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: Make it tackle. Yeah, just like a bit like Nathan 472 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: did with his sore shoulder. 473 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: Just fly down in front of the line and get 474 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: in a aggressive mindset, and on your first kick return 475 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: instead of dishes off. 476 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 3: To one of the outside backs. 477 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: Have we Goops, let's talk about next week. Arli Aunt's 478 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: I love that both games. Darliance tasting back to the 479 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: early nineties when early nineties, when they had the major, 480 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: seventy four people would descend from all over Australia to 481 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: go there. 482 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 2: It need a big crowd for the Sharks Scows. I 483 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: think the Bruces Marely would be big. 484 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, yeah, I think so. Sharks Cowboys. Where do 485 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys sit? Coops? 486 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,479 Speaker 2: Oh they were so good again on the weekend. But 487 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: we've said this a thousand times. I could not sit 488 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: here honestly and say I know what the Cowboys going 489 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 2: to do on the weekend. 490 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: But I will say this. 491 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: I think what I liked from the weekend of the 492 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: Cowboys is when there was a moment the Cowboys players 493 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: were there. I thought Carle felt at a tremendous game. 494 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: US intercept try off Kalin. If that goes the other way, 495 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 2: Newcastle score, He's tapped back for ultimately the match winner 496 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 2: for Cotta to score. There's just a couple of moments 497 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: sort of feel like the Cowboys players are putting their 498 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: jersey in the picture. And I think this comes down 499 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: the styles of Sharks for the Cowboys, because they both 500 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: play a very similar style. If they want to go 501 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: east west too quick, then I think the opposition might 502 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 2: get a chance. So the one thing that Cowboys have 503 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: over the Sharks at the moment is the cowboy's spine. 504 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 3: He's playing really. 505 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: Good foot, He's playing really good She's all I did. 506 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: He He's not east the west, straight up and down. 507 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: Good idea, right, make it? But what you will people 508 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: with North Corners Land and you know Dairy Farmers Stadium 509 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: up there? What about? What about this right? Waiting for 510 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: a statue Cale phelp? How much he's done for the club? Everything? 511 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: Statue of him putting that ball down the Grand Final? 512 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: You like it? 513 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? I like it. He's probably already got one at 514 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: home of himself. 515 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: Maybe he does. You've heard he for wins. Who wins 516 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: that game? Sharks, Cowboys for their reckon. 517 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 2: I think the Cowboys are probably the favorite here. I 518 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: don't know if I'm out of my mind saying this, 519 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: but I'm going to go to Sharks and the favorite. 520 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to say Sharks. I'm going to say Craig 521 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: Fitzgibbon has them breathing fire. And I'm going to double 522 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: down on Nicker. I'm going to I'm going to double 523 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: down and doubling down otherwise it's going to be a 524 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: huge off season. 525 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 3: So sis given Sharks and Nico. They lose this again. 526 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: There'll be eight finals games in a row. I think Sharks, 527 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm backing to get it right. It's really funny. Both 528 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: of these sides, I think will be the most difficult 529 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: size you to read on the season, and both sides 530 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: very quite often a great performance is followed by a 531 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: blood shirt and vice versa. 532 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like the poor performance makes them focus 533 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: in on the simple things that make them. 534 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: A good footy dear. Yeah, and I think the Sharks. 535 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: I think the Sharks mainly Roosters going to be a terrific game. 536 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 3: What are you thinking? 537 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: I think mainly how do they win? Do you put 538 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: me on the spot here? I do like Manly. I 539 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: like what I thought. Homoli was very good yesterday, very 540 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: very strong. Tom. I reckon he'll be closer to one. 541 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: It will be closer the experience of d C. I 542 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: like Manly. 543 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think if Mainly are to win, you've got 544 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 2: to sort of The Roosters give away penalties, they turn 545 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: over the ball at different stages, so like Jerry Evans 546 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: struck against the Dogs, when they get an opportunity, I 547 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: think they need to strike And I don't think it's 548 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: through the middle. I think it's some of their lateral 549 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: movement and their speed involved. And Tom needs to be thereabout. 550 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: He needs to be taking some flies off other people, 551 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. If the Roosters did to win well, 552 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: I think the return of hard Graves I think is back. 553 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: Oh. 554 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: I think that's where it sits. 555 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: Ya know. 556 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: They can't be caught behind the start again. 557 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: You'd imagine he moved straight into starting front row and 558 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: potentially his last game for the Roosters. 559 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 3: There should be a lot of. 560 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: Likepression and physicality to start of the game. 561 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, just on me. I wonder how how good books 562 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: he felt after the game. Luke Brooks, he should have 563 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: just been he'd have been buzzing to get that first 564 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: finals game and get up the win and play the 565 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: way he did. 566 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: And he had some nice touches early on, like he 567 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: ran the ball and you know, defensively was on. But 568 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: when they stood up at the back end like the dogs, 569 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 2: I thought, frontload a lot of energy and they're fatigue 570 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 2: just started creeping in where it probably shouldn't have and 571 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: it cost them at the wrong time. And you've got 572 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: to tip your cap to Cherry Evans scored one basically 573 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: set up the match. 574 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: Winner, finished with what do you think? What do you 575 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: think of must awful? I'm getting mistaken with Tom Selleck 576 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: in the street all the time. That's awful there it is. 577 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 3: That is a revolting wink. 578 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: And look that's my good side too, that's the good. 579 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: Signally sorry for Trisha every morning. 580 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 3: If that's the good side. 581 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: I could look at miss Off all day. Yeah, I'm 582 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: down the beach club, right, it gets weird. I go 583 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: down to the local. I sit there sometimes and I'm 584 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: having a bet. And then on the other side, Maddey 585 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: John Shall come on and I'm just look at it 586 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: and they look at this play. All the blokes, the 587 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: old boys stand there go. Mate, unbelievable. God is so busy. 588 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: You know. 589 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: We've told me, look, you're on the TV. I don't 590 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: tell much to replace. 591 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: Maybe the last time is your house. There was ninety 592 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: seven Grand Final on replay too. 593 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: It was mate, was like shrine. 594 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: You made me bow in the presence of greatness to 595 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: the jersey and the ring and everything too. 596 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: We're playing Oasis. It's full tilt. And then Trisha come 597 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: outside and told me, told me to turn off album 598 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: sisters grow on the cubs 599 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: Mhm