1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitzi and Whipper podcast. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: We absolutely adore this lady. She's got a brand new 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: inspiring book out. It's called fifteen Seconds of Brave The 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: Wisdom of Survivors decided to do this during the pandemic. 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: It is the magnificent Melissa. 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: We love it when you come in. Firstly, had a 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 3: big night the other night radio awards. 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: Radios Night of Night hasn't been carried out now, which 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: was a bit interesting. 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's just how I roll. My feet 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 4: were sore, I was done and dusted. No, it's so 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 4: much fun. And you know, the thing I really like 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 4: is when somebody wins, all their mates, all their colleagues, 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 4: everybody from the network gets up. And she is a 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 4: little bit different from Telly, so. 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: A little bit different. Did you go to an after party? 17 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: Did you make it to an Actually. 18 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 4: Didn't a lot about it, but yeah, it's wise. 19 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: Okay, can you well, can you frame us what's the 20 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: radio in n Stryt like compared to the television industry. 21 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: You don't want to go into this, do you? 22 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 4: I really regretting saying that? 23 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: Are so? Are we looser? 24 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 4: Or should I say yes? 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: Yes? 26 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the thing. What would you if you 27 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: could go to one awards out of the acress, the 28 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: radio awards or the logos all the logis switch one? 29 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Are you're wondering? 30 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 4: I had a great time on Saturday night. It was 31 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 4: nice to see you both. Absolutely Now we always say 32 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 4: this splinters out of my bottom? 33 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 5: Mail? 34 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: Or did you win for Best Newcomer one year? Mail? 35 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 5: Did? No? 36 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 6: Is it you coming back in twenty thirteen? 37 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: Wow? 38 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 6: I know it's funny. 39 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: I've had I've won more awards for radio than television, 40 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: is it right? 41 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: And I've done radio for five minutes? 42 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 5: Oh? 43 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: That is awesome. 44 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: You are magni ver fun. How do you find the 45 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: time to write a book? 46 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not very good at sitting still, which I 47 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 4: probably need to learn. I maybe think maybe meditation and 48 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 4: yoga is what I should be doing, But I just 49 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: like to do stuff, and so COVID hit. I was 50 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: out of full time work, I had time on my 51 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 4: hands and decided to write a book. 52 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: So when you say fifteen seconds of brave, is that 53 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: the moment or the length of time people go, I 54 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: need to act now or I'm in real trouble. 55 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: It's named after one particular person in the book, a 56 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 4: little boy Noah, who is so it's all different people 57 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: who've had different experiences, have been through things that have 58 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: been pretty tough. How they've got through it. One little boy, Noah, 59 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 4: it's told by his mum Cat, And when he was born, 60 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 4: he was diagnosed with a terminal illness and not told 61 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: how long he would have to live. They didn't know. 62 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: And so he's got to go to hospital and have 63 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 4: blood tests and needles and operations as you can imagine, 64 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: And every time he goes, he's nervous quite rightly, and 65 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 4: he says to his mum, Okay, I can be brave 66 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 4: for fifteen seconds. My mom says, well, what if it 67 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 4: takes longer and he goes, okay, I can probably find 68 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 4: another fifteen seconds. 69 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: But that's it. What a survice. 70 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: And I just thought, you know what if a little 71 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 4: twelve year old boy who's living on borrowed time can 72 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 4: find his brave to get through something, then nice lesson 73 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: from it. 74 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? I love that. 75 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: Can you tell me, I mean, outside of the book 76 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: or possibly within the book, is there one interview that 77 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 3: you did, most likely in your TV career which has 78 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: never left you? 79 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: Oh? 80 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: So many and I actually fine that a lot of 81 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 4: those people never leave me. I had this habit of 82 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 4: keeping them because I feel I can't sit down in 83 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 4: front of somebody and ask them to talk about the 84 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: most traumatic thing they've ever been through and then you 85 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: button off and you walk out and thanks very much. 86 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: You know, I like to check that they're okay, particularly 87 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: in the aftermath of an interview, but also years later. 88 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: What about loose interviews celebrity interviews that have gone a 89 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: little bit eyewall, where you've thought, oh my god, what 90 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 3: am I going to do here? 91 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 7: Oh my god. 92 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: There's been a few of those, or that you tend 93 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: to cut them short, or language comes out that you 94 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: know is not going to make it on. 95 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: Telling you what about the baby day, Oh my gosh. 96 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 4: We had to smuggle him into the building and the 97 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: back of it. 98 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: You didn't know it was going to blow up, that beag, 99 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: not that. 100 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 4: Big, no, not to the point where girls were just 101 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: passing out against the window. 102 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: And the caramel really scary. I remember it. 103 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: We went to do it done at the Overseas passenger 104 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 4: terminal and then had to smuggle him into the building 105 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: in the boot of the car up through the you 106 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 4: know the yeah. 107 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: Shell when you started throwing your clothes at him. Is 108 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: that when Chattel seven steps with Hang on a minute, 109 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: we need to be professional. 110 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 6: His mom, he's still I did get more cred though 111 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 6: walking across the scare that afternoon when I picked up 112 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 6: my kids from school and the other one was one direction. 113 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 4: All the little sixth grade girls just wanted to touch 114 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 4: me because I'd met one direction about any cred with 115 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: my kids ever except for those two moments. 116 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: We need fifteen seconds of brave from you, mail because 117 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: you beget in the headline off. 118 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 7: She walked in this morning and she just looked at 119 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 7: me and she goes, why do you do this tip. 120 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 3: Of shame. 121 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: In my book that I was writing? 122 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: And fifteen seconds of shockers coming back next? 123 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 5: Well, Rida headliness a little bit funny, I think. 124 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: Oil fine again, Well, metaphor, I. 125 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 7: Just asked us, always call it down the middle. Don't 126 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 7: be extracted by your friendship. 127 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: With mel or her fierce right now this is so, 128 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 4: what's your strongest one? 129 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 2: Because you need to get off to a good start, 130 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 2: Maddie degree, is there a story that you want me 131 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: to focus on? 132 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: First? Which one? The first? Second or third? The second. Second. Okay, 133 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: we're going to go second, just to give him a 134 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: bit of a chance. Maddie degree. 135 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: You can go first with the headline, but the topical 136 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: story is a woman who married a ghost says it 137 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: was hard to find a church that would host their 138 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: big day. 139 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: Woman who married a. 140 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: Ghost says it was hard to find a church that 141 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: would host their big day. 142 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: Best headline. 143 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 7: For the answer you seek, just call and ask bj 144 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 7: fits has been a ghost in his marriage for the 145 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 7: past decade. 146 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 4: Who were trying to get. 147 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: A rhyme in there? So that was your last It 148 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: was directed me and I like to think. 149 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: Okay, I get nervous. 150 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: It's tough in here. I'm on now. 151 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 4: Married at first fry. She is what your friends might say, 152 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 4: but don't complain if you get ghosted on the big day. 153 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 7: That's true. 154 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: Youtoos is better? 155 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're going first on this one. 156 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: Next story, drivers warn that they could be fined six 157 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: hundred dollars for eating whilst driving. 158 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: Drivers worn six hundred bucks for eating whilst driving. Best headline. 159 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: It's coming up next on RBT. It's Michael Whipfley wasted 160 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: on a lambsub. 161 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 7: Larky good rynt love us. 162 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: Yes, lucky Wow, basically wasn't I didn't like it. I 163 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: didn't like it. I really liked it. 164 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 7: No fat gag about if I won't go down that funnel, 165 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 7: I'll just remind you of the five funds you got 166 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 7: in the Cross City. 167 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 6: Okay, detail, Definitely. 168 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: It's a draw. 169 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 6: Here we go. 170 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: This is the tiebreaker. Last story. 171 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: Matt de greet First, Miss Argentina and Miss Puerto Rico 172 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: revealed that they are now married. I didn't know this 173 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: still there, Miss Argentina, Miss Puerto Rico now married. 174 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: Best headline, Matt hot. 175 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 7: I've spent a lot of time studying if this story 176 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 7: is a sham, but not as much as Tom did 177 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 7: on their Instagram. 178 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 1: Tells you yeah, bringing home mail, let's. 179 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: Go two supermodels getting married? Shure sounds like fun. Does 180 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: this mean Whipper will be running off with his cleaner? 181 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: Miss bumbo? 182 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: R bum? 183 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: I just didn't know we were going to end up there, 184 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: always end. 185 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: God, what are we going to do here? Judge for 186 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: some advices, the judges, all. 187 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: Right, I love, but you don't deserve women to draw. 188 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: It's not a. 189 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: Loss if you can't win, saying bum bum, Well, I. 190 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: Don't know why well, that's how we know we're comfortable 191 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: with you in studio. 192 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: Fifteen seconds to Brave The Wisdom of Survivors Matt de Grootz, 193 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: chapter eight. You can go get it at all good bookstores. Now, 194 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: We love you, Mel, thanks for coming. 195 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: Love you guys. You're listening to the Fits and Whipper 196 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: podcast