1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: It's Thursday May one, twenty twenty five. Big business says 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: they're worried the Albaneze government will keep going with industrial 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: relations reform if re elected, highlighting what they say would 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: be an eighteen billion dollar hit to the economy if 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: labor implements universal portable leave for casuals that would allow 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: low paid workers in sectors like disability, aged care and 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: cleaning to carry their entitlements for long service, sick and 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: careers leave to multiple employers. The federal election is two 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: sleeps away and you can read all our scoops and 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: analysis twenty four seven at the Australian dot com dot au. 12 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: It's a rumble in the Crumble, a high stakes battle 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: between two celebrity cooks, Nagi Mahashi and brook Bellamy. Mahahi 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: says recipes including chocolate caramel slice were lifted from her 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: wildly popular recipe Tineats Empire for Bellamy's book Bake with Brookie. 16 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: Bellamy denies any plagiarism. Aaron Patterson served a mushroom meal 17 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: that killed three elderly relatives and made another seriously ill. 18 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: The Crown says it was murder. Patterson says it was 19 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: all a terrible accident, and that in the aftermath Patterson 20 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: behaved in ways that might make her look guilty simply 21 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: because she was panicking. Today, the Front's Christen Amiot with 22 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: all the detail. 23 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: At lunchtime on July twenty nine, twenty twenty three, a 24 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: Victorian mother of two, Erin Patterson, served beef Wellington to 25 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: Don and Gale Patterson, the elderly parents of her husband, Simon, 26 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: and Ian and Heather Wilkinson, his aunt and uncle. For 27 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: three of those elderly people. The meal was fatal, and 28 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: now Erin Patterson, who is pleading not guilty, is facing 29 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: trial three counts of murder and one of attempted murder. 30 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: On day one of hearings Wednesday, the Crown took a 31 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: jury of fifteen through the events on that Winter's day 32 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: two years ago, Patterson, according to the Crown, case, invited 33 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: her extended family to lunch with the intention of killing them. 34 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: Ian Wilkinson is a pastor at the church where Erin 35 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: Patterson worshiped, and Heather was his wife. Simon Patterson wasn't 36 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: present at the lunch The court heard he and Erin 37 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 2: were separated at the time, but still in regular contact. 38 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: Rogers said he turned down his wife's invitation, texting her 39 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: that he didn't feel comfortable attending after their relationship soured. 40 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: These are the words spoken in court by the Crown prosecutor. 41 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: Doctor Nanette Rogers sc we've used voice actors throughout this episode. 42 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: The beef Wellingtons were prepared as a piece of steak, 43 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: covered with mushrooms and completely encased in pastry. 44 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: Rogers said. Aaron Patterson claimed to have used two different 45 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: types of mushrooms in the beef Wellington, a packet of 46 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: button mushrooms from Woolworth's and dried mushrooms from a Chinese 47 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: groser in the Melbourne suburbs. 48 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: Heather and Gale moved the four large plates from the 49 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: bench to the table, and the accused took the smaller, 50 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: lighter colored plate to her place at the table. They 51 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: said grace and started the meal. 52 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: The prosecutor said ian Heather and Donald ate their entire portions, 53 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: while Gail had about half and gave the rest to 54 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: her husband. The Crown told the jury the guest said 55 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: later how delicious the meal had been. After some catching up. 56 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: Rogers said, Aaron Patterson told the group she'd been diagnosed 57 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: with overian cancer, something both Crown and Defense now agree 58 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: was not true, and asked for their advice on whether 59 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: to tell her children. They prayed for her well being 60 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: before leaving the Leon Gather home that evening, the symptoms 61 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 2: began severe vomiting and diarrhea. While waiting for an ambulance 62 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: to collect them from their home. The next morning, Roger said, 63 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: the pastor's wife, Heather Wilkinson, asked Simon Patterson a question. 64 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: Unprompted. Heather said, I noticed that Aaron put her food 65 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 3: on a different plate to us. Her plate had colors 66 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 3: on it. I wondered why that was. 67 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: By August five, Heather Wilkinson and Gail and Donald Patterson 68 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: were dead suffering a multiple organ failure. All were diagnosed 69 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: with amenetia mushroom poisoning. The death cap Ian Wilkinson, the pastor, 70 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 2: now a widower, survived. 71 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: It is the prosecution case that the accused deliberately poisoned 72 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: with murderous intent each of Ian Wilkinson, Heather Wilkinson, Gail Patterson, 73 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: and Donal Patterson. On the twenty ninth of July at 74 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: her house and Lee and Gatha after inviting them for 75 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: lunch on the pretense that she'd been diagnosed with cancer 76 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 3: and needed advice about how to break it to the children. 77 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: It is also the prosecution case that A, the accused 78 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: did not consume death cap mushrooms at the lunch, and 79 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: that she pretended she was suffering the same type of 80 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: illness as the lunch guests to cover that up. This 81 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: is why we say she was reluctant to receive medical 82 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: treatment for death cap mushroom poisoning. B. The accused did 83 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: not really feed the leftovers of the poisoned beef Wellington 84 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: to the children. This is why she was reluctant to 85 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: have the children medically assist, because she knew that, like her, 86 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: they had not eaten any poison food. See the accused 87 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: lied about getting death cap mushrooms from an Asian grosser. 88 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: The accused disposed of the dehydrator, which contained death cap 89 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: mushroom remnants to conceal what she had done. 90 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: But why, Rogers told the jury the Crown did not 91 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: have to prove what Patterson's motive was, or even if 92 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: she had won. 93 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: What you will have to focus your attention on is 94 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: whether you are satisfied beyond reasonable doubt that the accused 95 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: committed the charges on the indictment, not why she may 96 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 3: have done so. 97 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: Patterson has always denied any wrongdoing and has pleaded not guilty. 98 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: Later in this episode, you'll hear the defense case. The 99 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: court heard the first time Aaron Patterson complained of feeling 100 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: unwell was on the morning of Sunday, July thirty, the 101 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: day after the lunch, when she spoke with her husband 102 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: on the phone. She said she'd been experiencing diarrhea at 103 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: regular intervals from the evening of the twenty ninth acclaim, 104 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 2: the prosecutor told the court is refuted by eyewitness and 105 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: CCTV evidence. The court heard Eron Patterson drove her son 106 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: to his flying lesson on the Sunday afternoon and wasn't 107 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: observed stopping to use the toilet with any regularity. 108 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: The accused is captured on CCTV entering the public toilet 109 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: at the service station and exiting nine seconds later before 110 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: she selected the products from the store. 111 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: When she did present at an urgent care clinic on 112 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: the morning of Monday, July thirty one, two days after 113 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: the lunch, Rogers told the jury, Aaron Patterson was extremely 114 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: reluctant to be admitted to hospital. Doctors at leon Gather 115 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: Hospital had only just learned the Wilkinsons and the Pattersons 116 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: may have been poisoned by death cap mushrooms, so they 117 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: voiced their concern she should be assessed as soon as possible. 118 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: Amongst this discussion, the accused repeatedly said she needed to leave. 119 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: She said, I haven't come prepared to be admitted to 120 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: hospital and I was just coming to be checked. She 121 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: said she needed to go and sought her kids and 122 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: that she needed to go home and pack for hospital. 123 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: She was adamant that she would not stay. 124 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: Against the advice of doctors and nurses. The Crown says, 125 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: Aaron Patterson signed her own discharge form and left, telling 126 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: them she'd be back in twenty minutes. It was only 127 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: when one of the doctors informed Erin Patterson of his 128 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: plan to get the police involved, that she returned to 129 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: the hospital and agreed to be assessed. 130 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: Doctor Foot assessed the accused and she formed the impression 131 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: that the accused was moderately dehydrated and appeared to have 132 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: a gastro intestinal type illness. 133 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: The prosecutor also said Patterson didn't appear to appreciate the 134 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: urgent need for her children, aged nine and fourteen at 135 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: the time of the alleged murders, to be tested. 136 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: The accused responded that the children had not been present 137 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: for the lunch, but had eaten some of the leftovers. 138 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: The next day, the accused said that the mushrooms had 139 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: been scraped off as the children did not like mushrooms. 140 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 3: The accused became and said she didn't want to involve 141 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: her kids. She did not appear to be concerned so 142 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: much about the children's health, but rather about stressing them out. 143 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: Doctor Webster was blunt and said they could be scared 144 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: and alive or dead. 145 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: At the same time, Aeron Patterson was being transferred to 146 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 2: the Monash Medical Center for treatment. Police went through her 147 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: bins and retrieved a bag of leftover beef Wellington, which 148 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: was taken to experts at the Royal Botanic Gardens in 149 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: Melbourne for analysis. No evidence of death caps was found 150 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: in the leftovers. Both Erin Patterson and her children were 151 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: kept at the Monash Medical Center for observation overnight. The 152 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 2: Crown says Erin Patterson started using a new phone from 153 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: around mid January of twenty twenty three, and that she 154 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: had two simcards on the go. Roger said Erin performed 155 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: a number of factory resets on the devices, including one 156 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: which was done remotely after the phone had been seized 157 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: by police. The prosecutor said Aaron Patterson's browsing history showed 158 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: she'd looked at a website I Naturalist where locals had 159 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: reported death cap mushrooms growing in April and May of 160 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and that's where the phone records come in. 161 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 2: Patterson's phone was pinging cell towers, Rogers told the court 162 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: in the areas where the Eye Naturalist users had reported 163 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: death caps. 164 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: In approximately March, April and May twenty twenty three, the 165 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: accused started posting messages in the Kelly Lane group chat 166 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: about dehydrating mushrooms. 167 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: Kelly Lane is a former Australian water polo player who 168 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: was convicted of murdering her newborn daughter in nineteen ninety six. 169 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: The prosecutor said Aaron Patterson was a member of a 170 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 2: group on Facebook where members discussed the case and had 171 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: struck up online friendships with some of them. 172 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 3: The accus explained in the chat that she'd been dehydrating mushrooms, 173 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: blitzing them into powder, and hiding powdered mushrooms in everything 174 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: included putting poundered mushrooms into chocolate brownies without her children knowing. 175 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: Police alleged Aaron Patterson disposed of a food dehydrator at 176 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: a nearby landfill on August three, but it was collected 177 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: by police the next day. Her fingerprints were later identified 178 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: on the appliance, and it was determined it contained death 179 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: cap mushroom residue, but at an interview conducted by police 180 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: on August five, Patterson told police she'd never dehydrated food. 181 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: The Crown prosecutor said an expert review of Aaron Patterson's 182 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 2: medical records showed it was unlikely she'd been poisoned at 183 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: the lunch on July twenty nine, and that she'd never 184 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: been diagnosed with cancer. 185 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: It is the prosecution case that the accused used the 186 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: false claim that she had serious medical issues to ensure 187 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: and to explain why the children would not be present 188 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 3: at the lunch on twenty ninth July. 189 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Coming up Aaron Patterson's defense to the chargers. 190 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: The defense case is that what happened at the home 191 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: of Aaron Patterson in leon Gatha was a terrible accident, 192 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:29,239 Speaker 2: and that Patterson had panicked in the aftermath. On Wednesday afternoon, 193 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: the barrister for Patterson, Colin Mandy, sc made his opening 194 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: submissions to the jury of fifteen men and women. 195 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: Allegations are easy to make, but it's proving them that matters. 196 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: The starting point for you is that Aaron Patterson is 197 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 4: innocent of this charge. 198 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: Mandy said. Patterson doesn't dispute that three people died after 199 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 2: attending lunch at her home, or that another person became 200 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: seriously ill. He told the court his client is a loving, 201 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: attentive mother to her children and a valued member of 202 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: the wider Patterson family, even after the breakdown of her relationship. 203 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: The defense case is that she panicked because she was 204 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: overwhelmed by the fact that these four people had become 205 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: so ill because of the food that she'd served. Might 206 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: someone panic in a situation like that? Is it possible 207 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: that people might do and say things that are not 208 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 4: well thought out and might in the end make them 209 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: look bad. So as you listen to the evidence, you 210 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: should consider when it comes to that fundamental issue of 211 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 4: Eron's intention. Did she have a motive to kill. 212 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: The trial continues on Thursday. Our reporters Elie Dudley and 213 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: John Ferguson are in court every day. You can follow 214 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: their coverage live at the Australian dot com dot au