1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:15,681 Speaker 1: Approche production, Well, what kind of pain would you like? 2 00:00:16,121 --> 00:00:18,361 Speaker 1: Would you get pain or would you give the pain? 3 00:00:18,681 --> 00:00:22,561 Speaker 2: Give and take? I would switch. But when later when 4 00:00:22,601 --> 00:00:25,561 Speaker 2: I worked as a dominatrix, now I was just full dominatrix. 5 00:00:25,601 --> 00:00:27,241 Speaker 2: Won't be Once in a while, I would allow myself 6 00:00:27,241 --> 00:00:27,801 Speaker 2: to get whipped. 7 00:00:28,161 --> 00:00:30,721 Speaker 3: But I was whipped and was just the final show 8 00:00:30,721 --> 00:00:32,641 Speaker 3: and nothing else, Like there's no other pain. That's the 9 00:00:32,641 --> 00:00:33,881 Speaker 3: most pain. You got whipped or you. 10 00:00:33,961 --> 00:00:35,361 Speaker 2: Oh that electricity? Of course? 11 00:00:35,681 --> 00:00:38,841 Speaker 3: Electricity? Yeah, what do you mean by let you see? 12 00:00:39,001 --> 00:00:42,641 Speaker 2: Oh? I used to attach little stuff to me really yeah. 13 00:00:43,361 --> 00:00:45,201 Speaker 3: It was was that to get them off or to 14 00:00:45,361 --> 00:00:49,281 Speaker 3: justl you off my private life really yeah. 15 00:00:49,361 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: And this is when the guys were not there at 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,241 Speaker 2: the time, so I'd be connecting it to me and 17 00:00:55,081 --> 00:00:57,601 Speaker 2: just going higher and higher. You know. It's almost like 18 00:00:57,641 --> 00:01:00,881 Speaker 2: how the emos cut themselves to feel. That's almost what 19 00:01:00,961 --> 00:01:03,001 Speaker 2: it was like. Because I was on so much medication 20 00:01:03,081 --> 00:01:06,281 Speaker 2: at the time. I had depressed and developing over the time, 21 00:01:06,601 --> 00:01:09,321 Speaker 2: and the amount of medication that I was on was 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: even part of my name. Contessa doll dollars, you know, 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,761 Speaker 2: is another name for pills, So that's what my name 24 00:01:14,801 --> 00:01:17,801 Speaker 2: came from. I was on so much meds, tranquilizers and 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,681 Speaker 2: antidepressants and that that I couldn't feel pain after a while. 26 00:01:20,721 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: But you're also saying that you because you were on 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,401 Speaker 3: so much meds that you didn't know what you were 28 00:01:24,481 --> 00:01:25,481 Speaker 3: doing sometimes you know. 29 00:01:25,441 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: No, No, I was very coherent exactly what I was doing. 30 00:01:28,481 --> 00:01:31,401 Speaker 2: But I just could electricity. How you get off on that? 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: It was just there's a gets to a point of 32 00:01:35,241 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: pain where it becomes euphoric. 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:38,761 Speaker 3: What the fuck? 34 00:01:40,761 --> 00:01:43,081 Speaker 2: And that's what a lot of these men are chasing. 35 00:01:43,161 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: Is that euphoric feeling of pain. Yeah, but you're asking 36 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,361 Speaker 2: for the pain. I thought you were giving it. Yeah, 37 00:01:48,361 --> 00:01:49,961 Speaker 2: I'm giving it, but I'm also from my. 38 00:01:50,441 --> 00:01:51,801 Speaker 3: What's the worst pain you gave someone? 39 00:01:52,201 --> 00:01:56,201 Speaker 2: I've got videos if you want to see the video. 40 00:01:56,241 --> 00:01:57,281 Speaker 3: I still got the video. 41 00:01:57,961 --> 00:01:59,641 Speaker 2: I like, if I ever want to write a book. 42 00:01:59,761 --> 00:02:00,401 Speaker 3: At least. 43 00:02:02,201 --> 00:02:04,121 Speaker 2: One guy came there and he was a sex addict 44 00:02:04,521 --> 00:02:09,521 Speaker 2: and he needed the pain and he wanted his private 45 00:02:09,601 --> 00:02:13,881 Speaker 2: area electrocuted. So I would attach pads to his balls 46 00:02:13,881 --> 00:02:16,041 Speaker 2: and put a rod inside his urethra. 47 00:02:16,201 --> 00:02:18,761 Speaker 3: Say again, yeah a rod, yeah, in. 48 00:02:18,841 --> 00:02:21,681 Speaker 2: The sounding rod inside is urethra, and I would just 49 00:02:21,761 --> 00:02:23,681 Speaker 2: toast the hell out of him, and I swear it 50 00:02:23,761 --> 00:02:25,721 Speaker 2: used to smell at bacon in that room afterwards when 51 00:02:25,721 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: I was done with him, and this guy would get 52 00:02:27,841 --> 00:02:28,841 Speaker 2: off on it and ejaculate. 53 00:02:28,881 --> 00:02:30,281 Speaker 3: How long would you do that for? Like? 54 00:02:30,361 --> 00:02:33,321 Speaker 2: How until he ejaculated? Which would be what? 55 00:02:33,641 --> 00:02:34,641 Speaker 3: Like how long you're talking? 56 00:02:34,721 --> 00:02:36,161 Speaker 2: The session was like an hour? 57 00:02:36,641 --> 00:02:37,441 Speaker 3: What the fuck? 58 00:02:38,281 --> 00:02:41,121 Speaker 2: Like this guy? It turned purple after a while. It 59 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:45,521 Speaker 2: turned into a giant aren't after a while, and a 60 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:45,961 Speaker 2: lot of. 61 00:02:45,921 --> 00:02:47,801 Speaker 3: Men he walks away happy? Yeah? 62 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,481 Speaker 2: Really, they all walked away really happy. 63 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,001 Speaker 3: That's what he's come for, Yes, to be hurt. 64 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,921 Speaker 2: Because a lot of these men are so wealthy that 65 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,081 Speaker 2: sex doesn't turn them on anymore. And they would tell 66 00:02:58,121 --> 00:03:00,041 Speaker 2: me sex doesn't turn me on. Women don't turn me 67 00:03:00,081 --> 00:03:02,561 Speaker 2: on because they've lived this high dopamine life that only 68 00:03:02,601 --> 00:03:03,761 Speaker 2: pain gets them off. 69 00:03:03,761 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: Now are these normal people? Like yeah, you would not 70 00:03:06,561 --> 00:03:09,081 Speaker 3: even make talking like lawyers and doctors and shame. 71 00:03:09,081 --> 00:03:12,281 Speaker 2: And one pastor not past up with a priest. Really Yeah, 72 00:03:13,881 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: he couldn't have sex, of course, so he thought the 73 00:03:16,641 --> 00:03:18,561 Speaker 2: loophole was to get pain. 74 00:03:18,761 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: Yes, what was his pain? Oh? 75 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,281 Speaker 2: He was into everything perverted. 76 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:27,881 Speaker 3: Yeah, perverted? Yeah, yeah, but he was Oh my god. 77 00:03:28,361 --> 00:03:31,521 Speaker 2: He also had a, I don't want to go. 78 00:03:33,481 --> 00:03:34,481 Speaker 3: On the switch. 79 00:03:34,601 --> 00:03:38,801 Speaker 2: He had a what he was branded by another dominatrix 80 00:03:38,881 --> 00:03:42,081 Speaker 2: on his penis really in his own country. He was 81 00:03:42,081 --> 00:03:45,601 Speaker 2: from overseas and she branded her initials into his penis. 82 00:03:46,761 --> 00:03:49,401 Speaker 2: Oh my, so it was property of so and so 83 00:03:49,681 --> 00:03:54,001 Speaker 2: in there. Wow, And I just kept thinking, dude, go 84 00:03:54,121 --> 00:03:56,201 Speaker 2: have sex. You're going to kill yourself. 85 00:03:59,561 --> 00:04:05,721 Speaker 3: What was Jesus? I want him on the podcast. 86 00:04:04,401 --> 00:04:06,281 Speaker 2: To Yeah, he cried the day that he had to 87 00:04:06,281 --> 00:04:08,241 Speaker 2: go back. I remember came to visit me at work 88 00:04:08,241 --> 00:04:10,161 Speaker 2: and he was holding on to me crying, I'm going 89 00:04:10,201 --> 00:04:13,081 Speaker 2: to miss you so much. I'm like you, Jesus. 90 00:04:13,561 --> 00:04:14,801 Speaker 3: Sounds like you really enjoyed it. 91 00:04:15,161 --> 00:04:18,121 Speaker 2: Oh I did for a while. It next made me 92 00:04:18,161 --> 00:04:19,921 Speaker 2: see human nature in a different way. 93 00:04:20,201 --> 00:04:21,321 Speaker 3: Did you like giving the paint? 94 00:04:21,521 --> 00:04:21,641 Speaker 2: Well? 95 00:04:21,681 --> 00:04:24,201 Speaker 3: Did you like pain or giving it or take an it? 96 00:04:24,281 --> 00:04:25,121 Speaker 3: What was the best for you? 97 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: Ah? Of course giving. Does he kind of really get 98 00:04:28,201 --> 00:04:28,841 Speaker 2: to know the person? 99 00:04:29,361 --> 00:04:31,961 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, But it's watching them suffer. I don't know 100 00:04:32,001 --> 00:04:32,601 Speaker 3: if I could do that. 101 00:04:33,761 --> 00:04:36,561 Speaker 2: Some of them. The thing is with BDSM, you only 102 00:04:36,601 --> 00:04:40,321 Speaker 2: stop when they say mercy okay, and it's discussed beforehands 103 00:04:40,361 --> 00:04:42,001 Speaker 2: Like a lot of guys would say don't touch my 104 00:04:42,081 --> 00:04:45,161 Speaker 2: penis because it'll turn me off. And then you cannot 105 00:04:45,801 --> 00:04:48,601 Speaker 2: break those boundaries at all. If he says, yeah, stop, 106 00:04:48,721 --> 00:04:52,041 Speaker 2: leave me alone, don't help, don't because I did that 107 00:04:52,081 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: once because I thought the guy was really really unhappy, 108 00:04:54,921 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: and then he lost it at me. Yeah, he said, 109 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,121 Speaker 2: I didn't say mercy, did I. I've ruined the mood 110 00:05:01,161 --> 00:05:02,441 Speaker 2: and everything, so he want. 111 00:05:02,481 --> 00:05:05,841 Speaker 3: To keep going. What would you do to him? Can 112 00:05:05,921 --> 00:05:06,321 Speaker 3: you remember? 113 00:05:06,801 --> 00:05:12,001 Speaker 2: I think it was a fisting session which was so fisting, yeah, 114 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:12,721 Speaker 2: which was. 115 00:05:14,681 --> 00:05:16,561 Speaker 3: Yeah the back side. 116 00:05:16,721 --> 00:05:18,401 Speaker 2: Yeah, what the. 117 00:05:18,921 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: Men doing the fisting? That's what the sex leaves said 118 00:05:20,761 --> 00:05:20,921 Speaker 3: to me. 119 00:05:20,921 --> 00:05:23,601 Speaker 2: Too, I'm telling you. In b D s M, every 120 00:05:23,641 --> 00:05:27,081 Speaker 2: second guy wanted an anal session. Every second guy it 121 00:05:27,121 --> 00:05:29,361 Speaker 2: would come there and say they want something in their ars. 122 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,121 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, really, you put your fist off their fist, 123 00:05:32,201 --> 00:05:37,521 Speaker 2: finger toys, everything, anal hawks, the works, your fist up 124 00:05:37,561 --> 00:05:41,841 Speaker 2: to my elbow sage. You want to see the video? 125 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,041 Speaker 3: Oh my god? Wow. I had to get promote the 126 00:05:49,041 --> 00:05:53,121 Speaker 3: episode with that. With that video, I had gloves. 127 00:05:52,801 --> 00:05:56,041 Speaker 2: You know for the cows that you get from the yeah, 128 00:05:56,201 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: but they used for the cows when they Yeah, I 129 00:05:58,921 --> 00:05:59,601 Speaker 2: had those. 130 00:05:59,401 --> 00:06:02,521 Speaker 3: And it went to your elbow. Yes, how the fun 131 00:06:02,641 --> 00:06:04,601 Speaker 3: can you get our way? Well? 132 00:06:04,681 --> 00:06:07,841 Speaker 2: I could the video. I didn't hold back. This guy 133 00:06:07,961 --> 00:06:10,681 Speaker 2: had a lot put up there and a lot of 134 00:06:10,721 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: guys needed that as well, like I didn't think someone 135 00:06:13,641 --> 00:06:16,801 Speaker 2: needed it, and a lot of there was a few guys. 136 00:06:17,161 --> 00:06:20,481 Speaker 2: I'm not laughing. I'm not shaming them that were born 137 00:06:20,521 --> 00:06:24,161 Speaker 2: with an inverted penis, which means it's facing inside the 138 00:06:24,161 --> 00:06:27,121 Speaker 2: body and they can't really get off, They can't really 139 00:06:27,201 --> 00:06:29,281 Speaker 2: up sex, so you had has to go from inside there. 140 00:06:29,681 --> 00:06:36,521 Speaker 3: Anus fucking hell when the fucking kind of wims wow, 141 00:06:37,281 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: Because I'm just it's funny you're saying all this because 142 00:06:39,201 --> 00:06:42,841 Speaker 3: I've just got an invitation because of the Sex Live 143 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,201 Speaker 3: episode that I did in Melbourne. They've reached out to 144 00:06:46,241 --> 00:06:49,441 Speaker 3: me now and I can go into a fetish house. Okay, 145 00:06:49,681 --> 00:06:51,081 Speaker 3: And I don't know what I'm going in for here 146 00:06:51,081 --> 00:06:52,841 Speaker 3: because they says they they'll come on the podcast and 147 00:06:53,001 --> 00:06:55,001 Speaker 3: to do an interview. But what is a fucking fetish house? 148 00:06:55,201 --> 00:06:56,921 Speaker 3: Do you know? Have you ever been to one? Yeah? 149 00:06:56,961 --> 00:06:57,921 Speaker 3: What's a fetish house? 150 00:06:58,841 --> 00:07:02,401 Speaker 2: Just a lot of different toys around. Everyone's kind of 151 00:07:02,401 --> 00:07:06,001 Speaker 2: a yeah to one yes everything to a lot of 152 00:07:06,041 --> 00:07:08,721 Speaker 2: fetish parties, fetish housers, dungeons. 153 00:07:10,001 --> 00:07:13,201 Speaker 3: Wow, you look so sweetening, and. 154 00:07:13,281 --> 00:07:15,601 Speaker 2: So do a lot of dominatrixes outside of work. You 155 00:07:15,601 --> 00:07:18,161 Speaker 2: wouldn't think that sweet old granny that was walking into 156 00:07:18,201 --> 00:07:21,281 Speaker 2: the building was actually one of the fiercest dominatrixes out there. 157 00:07:22,121 --> 00:07:25,041 Speaker 2: I think what you needed to be a dominatrix. 158 00:07:24,561 --> 00:07:28,041 Speaker 3: Is not when someone's personality really comes out, is he? 159 00:07:28,361 --> 00:07:31,081 Speaker 2: From what I was told by the owner of the place, 160 00:07:31,121 --> 00:07:33,721 Speaker 2: the best dominatrixes have empathy because they can read a 161 00:07:33,761 --> 00:07:36,281 Speaker 2: situation and they know when to stop, pull back or 162 00:07:36,281 --> 00:07:38,721 Speaker 2: two thank you kind of a psychopath doing the job, 163 00:07:38,761 --> 00:07:41,041 Speaker 2: because they would kill the person. So you've got to 164 00:07:41,121 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: know what amount of pressure to use, or when to stop, 165 00:07:44,801 --> 00:07:47,241 Speaker 2: or when to go harder. So I think that's what 166 00:07:48,321 --> 00:07:50,721 Speaker 2: just towards the end, I got very popular because I 167 00:07:50,841 --> 00:07:53,721 Speaker 2: knew how to use that. I had a lot of 168 00:07:53,761 --> 00:07:56,481 Speaker 2: repeat clients as well. They would always come back every week. 169 00:07:57,081 --> 00:08:00,081 Speaker 3: I can see how much like you're trying to keep 170 00:08:00,081 --> 00:08:06,521 Speaker 3: the smile, but much you enjoyed it, How can you like, 171 00:08:06,641 --> 00:08:09,361 Speaker 3: surely then how can you beat that? If you're into 172 00:08:09,441 --> 00:08:14,401 Speaker 3: all this kind of stuff and sexual wise, really, to me, 173 00:08:15,841 --> 00:08:18,321 Speaker 3: sex wouldn't do it for you. I wasn't having sex 174 00:08:18,361 --> 00:08:21,561 Speaker 3: after you went, so there's no sex. He was just 175 00:08:21,641 --> 00:08:23,041 Speaker 3: beat it like campaign, that's it. 176 00:08:23,241 --> 00:08:26,241 Speaker 2: A lot of guys that want that. It's very rarely 177 00:08:26,321 --> 00:08:29,281 Speaker 2: that someone would want full service afterwards. If they wanted it, 178 00:08:29,281 --> 00:08:32,841 Speaker 2: they wanted it. If they yeah, they'd pay extra. But 179 00:08:33,401 --> 00:08:36,361 Speaker 2: a lot it was just even in my private life. 180 00:08:36,401 --> 00:08:39,161 Speaker 2: I was going home alone. Maybe once in a while 181 00:08:39,201 --> 00:08:41,201 Speaker 2: I just see a guy that I was filming with, 182 00:08:41,761 --> 00:08:43,801 Speaker 2: But other than that, no, it was. 183 00:08:44,001 --> 00:08:44,441 Speaker 3: You miss that. 184 00:08:44,521 --> 00:08:46,241 Speaker 2: Do you miss it or you don't miss it? Just 185 00:08:46,681 --> 00:08:49,321 Speaker 2: being around people and getting to know them like that, 186 00:08:49,561 --> 00:08:53,161 Speaker 2: because I really got to understand men in a different way. 187 00:08:53,521 --> 00:08:56,521 Speaker 2: Like they biggest, most scariest men would come there and 188 00:08:56,681 --> 00:08:59,321 Speaker 2: just slip the mask, slip and just tell me, this 189 00:08:59,361 --> 00:09:00,761 Speaker 2: is why I'm getting it done. This is why I 190 00:09:00,801 --> 00:09:01,441 Speaker 2: need to get it done. 191 00:09:02,321 --> 00:09:04,961 Speaker 3: I couldn't, like I can't even picture it, Like yeah, 192 00:09:05,121 --> 00:09:10,841 Speaker 3: to me, maybe I'm just fucking bored. I just don't. Yeah, 193 00:09:10,881 --> 00:09:12,481 Speaker 3: Like that's just a new will to me that, you 194 00:09:12,521 --> 00:09:13,241 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like. 195 00:09:13,241 --> 00:09:16,841 Speaker 2: It's wow, I just after I was never one of 196 00:09:16,881 --> 00:09:19,601 Speaker 2: those little you know, those dominatrixes that just give them 197 00:09:19,601 --> 00:09:21,081 Speaker 2: a bit of a smack on the bomb and say 198 00:09:21,041 --> 00:09:23,881 Speaker 2: you naughty boy. I got into the hardcore new degree. 199 00:09:24,281 --> 00:09:26,001 Speaker 2: Worst of the worst was. 200 00:09:26,001 --> 00:09:28,401 Speaker 3: It was a bit like before you ever did it 201 00:09:28,961 --> 00:09:31,641 Speaker 3: and you did your first want, were you kind of 202 00:09:31,721 --> 00:09:33,481 Speaker 3: like nervous to do it or you're. 203 00:09:33,201 --> 00:09:37,281 Speaker 2: Just yes, oh yeah. They just said, okay, this guy's 204 00:09:37,321 --> 00:09:40,801 Speaker 2: into cock and bull torture, ball torture. Yeah. And I 205 00:09:40,801 --> 00:09:43,841 Speaker 2: had to go in there and I was like, okay, heah. 206 00:09:43,761 --> 00:09:45,881 Speaker 3: Now what so what did you have to do for 207 00:09:45,921 --> 00:09:46,721 Speaker 3: cock and bull torture? 208 00:09:46,921 --> 00:09:49,521 Speaker 2: I just I did not know what to do. I 209 00:09:49,601 --> 00:09:51,961 Speaker 2: tried a moose around his penis. I kicked him between 210 00:09:51,961 --> 00:09:52,361 Speaker 2: the legs. 211 00:09:52,561 --> 00:09:54,081 Speaker 3: What you kicked him? Yeah? 212 00:09:54,161 --> 00:09:55,641 Speaker 2: A few times you. 213 00:09:55,601 --> 00:09:56,841 Speaker 3: Actually kicked him. How hard you talk? 214 00:09:56,881 --> 00:09:58,321 Speaker 2: We took quite a few times. 215 00:09:58,681 --> 00:10:00,201 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what he wanted you to do. Kive 216 00:10:00,241 --> 00:10:00,601 Speaker 3: me the ball. 217 00:10:00,841 --> 00:10:02,841 Speaker 2: And later on I realized there's more that I could 218 00:10:02,841 --> 00:10:05,921 Speaker 2: have done, Like what, oh, there's I could have used. 219 00:10:05,961 --> 00:10:07,641 Speaker 2: I could have used the sounding rods, I could have 220 00:10:08,241 --> 00:10:09,881 Speaker 2: done anything else electrically. 221 00:10:10,081 --> 00:10:12,201 Speaker 3: You have the run of the thing to do what 222 00:10:12,241 --> 00:10:13,681 Speaker 3: you want to give him pain. Yeah. 223 00:10:13,841 --> 00:10:16,801 Speaker 2: Later on, when I worked at another establishment because that 224 00:10:16,801 --> 00:10:19,321 Speaker 2: one closed down and straight away this other establishment said 225 00:10:19,361 --> 00:10:24,321 Speaker 2: we need you here because of my clients. Hell because 226 00:10:24,361 --> 00:10:26,641 Speaker 2: we have these sorts of men that are coming here 227 00:10:26,761 --> 00:10:29,961 Speaker 2: and finding the services, and we don't can't find a dominatrix. 228 00:10:30,001 --> 00:10:32,641 Speaker 2: At the time I was I didn't look like a 229 00:10:32,681 --> 00:10:35,921 Speaker 2: standard dominatrix. No you don't, but most of them were 230 00:10:36,001 --> 00:10:38,681 Speaker 2: two days, most of them were scary, and I kind 231 00:10:38,681 --> 00:10:40,601 Speaker 2: of had the little blo a girl thing going on. 232 00:10:41,041 --> 00:10:43,361 Speaker 2: So I came and worked today, and then I would 233 00:10:43,601 --> 00:10:45,321 Speaker 2: speak to the guy's face and say, Okay, what do 234 00:10:45,401 --> 00:10:47,521 Speaker 2: you want and how hard do you want it? And 235 00:10:47,601 --> 00:10:49,441 Speaker 2: I make them point to the equipment that they want 236 00:10:49,441 --> 00:10:49,761 Speaker 2: to use.