1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Citsy and with her with Kate Ritchie podcast. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 2: And I'm not sure what you do on a Sunday. 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Maybe you buy the Sunday papers, maybe you flick through Stella, 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: which is in the Daily Telly. What an incredible photo 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 2: of the gorgeous Natalie bassinthway on the cover yesterday. I 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: mean I loved it because not only is she and 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: you know, she's gorgeous, I mean very aesthetically pleasing, but 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: it felt a bit christmasy. It was all rad It 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: was a very I thought pared back cover for what 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 2: they usually do. There weren't too many headlines, and the 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: headline they went with, which I thought credit where credits 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: due was something about nat Bass speaking her truth. Now 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: if you did read the article and of course it's 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: been floating around online in everywhere else since, being able 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: to read it in Stella and hear about it in 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: their podcast, Something to talk about. She talked about the 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: you know, the usuals. I mean, she's an incredibly talented performer. 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: People can look forward to seeing her. 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Reveal The Road Traders getting back together. 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: No, well, I think they do randomly get back together. Yeah, 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: they've been around since two thousand and two. I think 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: that joined so kind of xy and like powerful. I mean, 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: no one can rock a mini skirt like Matt Bass 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: and kind of hold the attention of the crowd. She's 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: actually doing a tribute to George Michael, which they did 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: chat about in the article with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: come December. I think she's performing with David Campbell, so 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: that will be amazing to see her there. But then, 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: of course, a lot of the focus around the story 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: was the fact that she has separated from her husband. 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: Was in the Road Traders. 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: Yes, he was Cameron. He was the drummer of the 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: Road Traders and still is. They've separated during the course 34 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: of this year. I would imagine she revealed that or 35 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: had to reveal that. We'll get to that in a second, 36 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: in about August of this year. But she has since 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: found love, and she has found love with a woman. 38 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: And the quotes were so lovely the way, I mean, 39 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: she can light up the room with that smile anyway, 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: but the way she spoke about it was that she's 41 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: just kind of you know, she's full of love and 42 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 2: it makes her heart happy and everything's great. And although 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: there's been a very big period of change, in her 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: life and the family's life. She's happy, and she's kind of, 45 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: you know, now, in a position to feel as though 46 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: she can reveal that information because it's understandable. People love 47 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: her and she does have a public persona and people 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: want to know a little bit more about her. What 49 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: I found interesting, though, and I guess this is what 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: happens when you are in the public eye, that not 51 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 2: only you going through change in your life, but people 52 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: are interested in that change. And what she did reveal 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: in the article was that I don't want to say 54 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: the breakdown of her marriage, because she really spoke about 55 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: her marriage that it didn't fail. It was actually a 56 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: great period of their life, the two wonderful kids, They 57 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: did heaps of great things together, so it's not a 58 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: failure at all. But she did she did say that 59 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: she was in some ways kind of forced to speak 60 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: out about things and probably reveal to everybody that there 61 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: had been a separation before she was ready. I'll let 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: her explain it to you the way that she received 63 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: a phone call and was kind of told, you know, 64 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: we know this information about you, and either you say 65 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 2: it or we say it. 66 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: And this is something that I feel comfortable talking about now, 67 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: whereas before I probably wasn't is. I wanted to be 68 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: able to do it in my time, when I was ready, 69 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: and speak my truth when I was ready. And then 70 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: I felt a bit threatened. And I look, I get journalism, 71 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: like I understand, and I've got you know, been so 72 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: supported so much over the years, but to kind of 73 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: I felt this particular time, I was backed into a 74 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: corner a little bit. It was like, well, you know, 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: give me a quote or we're going to print the story. 76 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: It was like, we know that you're in a relationship, 77 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: a new relationship with a woman, we know who it is. 78 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: We won't talk about that, but will you give us 79 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 3: a quote? And that felt very threatening to me because 80 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: that was something that I've been private about because it's 81 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: been new for me and new for my family. 82 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: Is that bullying, Well, I think it's so many things. 83 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: I think it's certainly threatening, and I think that she's 84 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: handled it very well. You did make the comment during 85 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: the song when you were talking about this that well, 86 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: if someone was to say that to you, maybe your 87 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: feeling would be Okay, Well, if you're going to say 88 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: it about me, say it, and you're going to look 89 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: you're going to look like the bad guy. I think 90 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: in some ways though, I think when you have a family, 91 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: you may think of things differently because you do want 92 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: things to be presented in a particular light, because it's 93 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: not just the public reading the information about you, it's 94 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: your face, family, it's your kids online. 95 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: The first time this has happened, who did it happen 96 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: with not long ago Wilson? And did she in turn 97 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: attempt to sue where there was some sort of legal 98 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: action or a threat because it was out of line 99 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: to say, unless you tell them, I will Yeah. I 100 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: remember that moment and it felt low. It felt very low. 101 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: I don't look I don't think it's fair at all. 102 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: She does go on to say that she doesn't feel 103 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: as though she was outed. 104 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: I wasn't outed, but the threat was there and it 105 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: was very overwhelming. My daughter knows everything, Cam knows everything, 106 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: our families know everything, our best friends know everything. My 107 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: son hadn't known yet, and it was very personal. 108 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: That's what really got to me, I think. I mean, 109 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: she spoke so beautifully about it, but I think regardless 110 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: of new relationships and regardless of whether she has found 111 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: love with a woman, it's just the fact that she's 112 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: going into a new chapter of her life. There is 113 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: bringing someone new into the circle a family. 114 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: The cheap shot is the cheap shot is if it 115 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: was with another guy, it wouldn't be as interesting and 116 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: therefore it wouldn't drag as many cliques and likes. So 117 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: therefore they know it's a better cell and it's a 118 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: bigger cell because it's a woman. 119 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: Well, look, I do think there's an element of truth 120 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: in that. I did say though, I was impressed with 121 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: the fact that Stella went with the headline about Natalie 122 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: Bass speaking her truth and not going with a headline 123 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: that's true which is floating around online. Of course, I'm 124 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: in love with a woman. I do think that that 125 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: gave it a real level of credibility. But I do 126 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: think that regardless of woman or not, if you're moving 127 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: into a relationship and you're in the public eye and 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: people feel as though that's their business to share with 129 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 2: the world, what they're not considering is that you actually 130 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: have a life beyond what people are reading about, and 131 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: whether that's a man or a woman. Maybe it's a 132 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: new relationship. It's not time like all of us start 133 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: new relationships, and it's not time to tell your children 134 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: about that. You don't even know if this person's around 135 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: for five minutes or five months or five years. It's 136 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: not the business of anybody else, especially when you have 137 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: kids of school age. It's not the business of a 138 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: publication to tell your kids what your life is doing 139 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: and what they mean to you. But a credit to 140 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: napbass I did reach out to her last night. I 141 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: think she's an absolute inspiration and I'm sure she's really 142 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: inspired a lot of people over the weekend. You don't 143 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: have to date a woman to be inspiring, but how wonderful. 144 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: And I just really think that being open and honest 145 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: is incredible. And I mean, her children are very lucky 146 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: to have a mummy that is handling it that way, 147 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: and it sounds like there's a great dad there too. 148 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: Do you need a moment? Do you want to to do? 149 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: What? Who doing it? Here? Mate? 150 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: Ritzy and Wiffo with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast. 151 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: For more great comedy shows 152 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: Like this, head to novapodcast dot com dot au.