1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Morning, Melbourne. You are on the air with Jason. Lauren 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Clint is here as well. Hey, coming up Probe the 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: Popo our favorite segment where we get in a different 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: area of the Victorian Police. It's just chatting with the cops. 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: I won't reveal what department they're from, but they're very 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: nervous about coming in this morning. And it's not because 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: they're chatting on the radio. They're more nervous that they're 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: going to drop the sea word. 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fair enough because they'll get ribbed from the 10 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: entire Victorian Police. 11 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, we have. 12 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: To play Mariah Carey. I'm looking at them out the window. 13 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be the cop going back to 14 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: the base after having Mariah play. But anyway, pressures. 15 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: On them, not us. 16 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 4: You say it will handcuff you to the chairs here, No, 17 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 4: I said, will taste them? 18 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Pride the Pope. 19 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: It's a little aggressive coming up. 20 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: The under sixteen social media. Their social media Astralians are 21 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: ready for its rollout. 22 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: Help limit the impact of this content. 23 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: This is a policy as a set of rules to 24 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: keep our kids safe. 25 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: Big Day today is a father of three. I was 26 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: just going to say I am incredibly happy that we 27 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: are the first in the world to take this step. 28 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: It's not perfect. 29 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: It's really interesting though, because you're you got three kids, right, 30 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: but they're not really right in this zone yet, biggest 31 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: affect them. 32 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: But there's a parent. 33 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: There's the parents who are looking at this and are like, great, 34 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: this is going to stop my kids from entering the 35 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 2: social media era early, right, they haven't got there yet. 36 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: There's the kids who are in it and they're having 37 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: it taken away, and that's a completely different ballgame. And 38 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: then there's the parents of the kids who are sort 39 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: of on the other side of it. And then of 40 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: course there's the kids who are actually involved. Some kids 41 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: are loving it, they're saying it's taking the pressure off them. 42 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: And other kids are saying that they're just not sure 43 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 2: how they're going to go. So there's sort of mixed 44 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: emotions towards this. I think we all know the introduction 45 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: of these rules is for the greater goods, but it 46 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: will take time, and there a lot of frustration between kids' parents, 47 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: schools teaches the whole thing, and I think it's all 48 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: kind to one another. 49 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: And I just don't want the negativity going. Oh this 50 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: isn't going to work. A look at that. They can 51 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: still go to work. It's approached. 52 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and parents are going to have to be patient 53 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: as well. And parents are still going to have to parent. 54 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, well are And there's so many layers to it. 55 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 4: There's obviously the harmful content, be it videos, memes, all 56 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: that sort of stuff, and there's also the chat, which 57 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 4: is harmful in itself, you know, the peer pressure, the 58 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 4: horrible stories you hear online, just. 59 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: The constantly being available as well. That's nothing we never 60 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: had to. 61 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: Do with it, thank god. Jody in Geelong, good morning, 62 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: Good morning. You get a fourteen year old in the house. 63 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: How's it going down? What's your thoughts on it? 64 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 65 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 6: Not great at all. Actually, So I've got a fourteen 66 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 6: year old who's going to be heavily impacted by the band, 67 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 6: so I'm dead against it. So you're talking about a 68 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 6: generation of kids here who've grown up through COVID lockdown, 69 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 6: where social media became their only way of communicating. My daughter, 70 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 6: in particular, she's the youngest in her group of friends, 71 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 6: so she's the youngest in a year level they'll all 72 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 6: get access back to their social media, but she's going 73 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 6: to be left out of that. Most of their communicating, 74 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 6: like their group chats and everything I've done on snatchat 75 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 6: that's how they plan all their outings over the holidays. 76 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 6: Like she's got a couple of outing plans this week 77 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 6: already it was all being communicated on Snapchat, and then 78 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 6: as of today she's going to be completely out of 79 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 6: the loop. She's got friends in the group that are 80 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 6: already sixteen fourteen. It's like real social exclusion. So I'm 81 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 6: actually dead against it. I think if I had young 82 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 6: kids and I was at the other end of it 83 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 6: sung my kids, my other two are older now, but 84 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 6: if I was at like the primary school age, I'd 85 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 6: be going great. 86 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: I get it. 87 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 6: I get it in primary school. But now I'm taking 88 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 6: it away from kids that have grown up with it 89 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 6: and we depend on. 90 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: It so heavily. 91 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 6: I think it's going to have the opposite impact for them. 92 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: I sympathize, I do. But then I hear stories and 93 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: I just read one in the Herald Sun before a 94 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 4: fifteen year old who met someone online via a chat group. 95 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: He was fifty years of age. They made socials, met 96 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: up and she actually lost her life. She was murdered 97 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: at the hands of the pedophile like. You hear stories 98 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: like that, this is Carlie Ryan eighteen years ago and 99 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: if this social media band had been in place, now 100 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: her family say she been with us. You hear harrowing 101 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: stories like that. You hear kids being bullied, and that's 102 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 4: when I think, well, you know what. It might be 103 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: a bit messy to deal with initially, but it's. 104 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: Worth I do think there will be this crossover years, 105 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: this kind of crossover kids who were in between, and 106 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: like Jodi said, it is for a lot of these 107 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: kids who are fourteen and fifteen. They're the kids who 108 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: really got on socials a really complicated time that the 109 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: world was going through when everyone was disconnected and it 110 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: was the only way to say say together and social 111 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: media actually did save a lot of times so they 112 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: didn't feel isolated. So I think this is a really 113 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: complex situation for the kids in that so feel. 114 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: I so feel for those kids and those parents of 115 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: that bracket will be hard. 116 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: H I don't think anyone thinks they're going to get 117 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: it right overnight. 118 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: The other talk is all the ways to get around this. 119 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: Kath your twelve. 120 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, Hey kath Now you're twelve, what 121 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: social media platforms. 122 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: Are you on or were you on? Before today? 123 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 5: I was on YouTube and they were gonna add this 124 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 5: other game that I think most of kids in my 125 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 5: age group are on Richard's Roadblox. And I remember growing 126 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 5: up with YouTube, and I remember the first time when 127 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 5: I was on YouTube Kids and I finally got YouTube 128 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 5: because there's just a lot more on them to like 129 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 5: watch and more things that like, like my age group 130 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 5: would want to watch rather than YouTube Kids. 131 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: Because does YouTube kids feel a bit young for you? Yeah, 132 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 2: you're in that YouTube team be tween. 133 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: We need. 134 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's like there's like a few things that people 135 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 5: would want to watch on YouTube Kids, but like there's 136 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 5: not much. Most of it's kind of like younger kids. 137 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 5: Bobby Dolphin, Yeah. 138 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. So Cath have you have you used any 139 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: social media to chat to your friends? 140 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 5: I use Messenger kids, so not really or I use 141 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 5: messages And. 142 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: How do you feel about the social media Like you 143 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: can't get on Instagram or snapchatl any of those things 144 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: till you're sixteen. How do you think that's a good idea? 145 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 5: Well, not really because as much as it does help 146 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 5: from kids like who do get like that content that 147 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 5: isn't like good for them. There is a lot of 148 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 5: stuff out there that is like good to watch. 149 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, and hey, Kat, have the school at school? Have 150 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: they explained to you how it's going to work and 151 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: what's going to happen. 152 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 5: No, because we do sometimes like use YouTube for like 153 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 5: tutorials on like how to draw or like how to 154 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 5: like make this craft for like whatever it is. 155 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 4: Seem can use them on YouTube kids? 156 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: Can you not all of them? It's really weird. And 157 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: then I'll be honest sometimes I've seen the boys watching 158 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: something on YouTube kids, and I'm like, that's that. It 159 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: shouldn't got thrue. It just took a point on that 160 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: roadblocks the gaming roads. It's like a it's a gaming 161 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: app where people create games and upload it and kids 162 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: will play all the games on there. They were can 163 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: still game, they can still gain. They were looking at 164 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: eliminating the chat element that's on there because they can 165 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: actually go into chat. And I can tell you firsthand, 166 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: I've looked over the shoulder of my boys and seen 167 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: creepy stuff said and that it was terrifying. 168 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: But you get also that it doesn't just mean that 169 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: now the government's taken over. Parents wash their hands not 170 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: at all after their kids as well. 171 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: If anything, it feels like we've got a bit of 172 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: backup in the argument. 173 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're on it, you're on the same side. 174 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: Just really quickly. 175 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 4: Liliana's ten, Liliana, you think this is good? 176 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, I think it's pretty good. 177 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: Why is that? 178 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 5: Because I've seen my little brother who's sick. He's watching 179 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 5: like stuff that is not suppose he doesn't even realize it. 180 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 5: My dad goes to call him. 181 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, well there you go, lilone. 182 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: Hopefully this protects you and protects a little brother. 183 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: She pretects a lot of shit head on her shoulders. 184 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. 185 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: I think that that younger generation of kids will get it. Well, 186 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: they won't even. 187 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: It's taking it away from the ones who are on. 188 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: It, which is where I think a huge amount of complexity, 189 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: and hopefully the schools and everyone is equipped to deal. 190 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: With that stuff. 191 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: So because like, seriously, there will be kids who think 192 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: they're having withdrawals from this stuff. 193 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: The other day, we were driving home and I'm waiting 194 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: to merge, right, so I've looked right, just me looking right, 195 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm not looking like face forward in the car. So 196 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: one of the boys took that opportunity to quickly grab 197 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: my phone out of the center consopt and I was like, 198 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: I turned back. I'm like, what are you doing, You're 199 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: on my phone. I just I just want to kill Time. 200 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 4: Three like a reflex. 201 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're drug addicts. It's unbelievable. 202 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: So I think there will be a really interesting stage 203 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: of withdrawal and everyone needs to really look out for 204 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: each other. 205 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 4: World is watching us, yeah, which is which is sort 206 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: of quite cool as well. We could be the trendsetters 207 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 4: Jason Lauren Lauren wake up feeling good following them on 208 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: the socials.