1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to start here the very special mini series within 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Sugar Mamma's Fireplay, where I answer your real life questions 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: with practical empowering steps to help you finally get started. 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Today's question comes from a very kind, caring, and thoughtful mother. 5 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: She wrote to me to share that when her daughter 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: was young, she received twenty five thousand dollars from the 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: government as compensation after a car accident. That money was 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: placed in trust about fifteen years ago, and it is 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: only grown modestly with inflation roughly twenty five percent, meaning 10 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: it is likely to be worth around thirty one thousand 11 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: dollars today. Her daughter has fully recovered, thank goodness, with 12 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: no impact on her health, and is turning eighteen shortly, 13 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: which means she'll soon have access to these funds. So naturally, 14 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 1: this mother has asked me, what should my daughter do 15 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: with this money? Now? This is such an important question, 16 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: not just because it's about setting her up financially, but 17 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: how we actually use these opportunities like this to educate, 18 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: empower and support young growing adults to make wise financial 19 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: choices and to know how to grow their own wealth 20 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: and financial independence themselves. So firstly, I want to acknowledge 21 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: this mother's care. It is so natural to be protective, 22 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: especially when this money came from something as traumatic as 23 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: a car accident. And whilst it's tempting to just want 24 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: a straight answer from me now, the truth is there 25 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: is no one size fits all solution. What I can 26 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: do in this episode, though, is walking through some possible pathways, 27 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: explain the risks and the rewards, and hopefully spark a 28 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: really empowerful conversation between you and your daughter. Because this 29 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: isn't just about the money. It's about using this as 30 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: a teaching moment, a defining teaching moment that could change 31 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: the trajectory of her financial life. So let's look at 32 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: the money itself. If twenty five thousand dollars was put 33 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: aside fifteen years ago and it only tracked inflation, it's 34 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: reasonable to assume it's now worth around about thirty one 35 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Now, that is a significant amount of money 36 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: for an eighteen year old. It could be used to 37 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: tick off short term goals, provide long term security, or 38 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: mix of both. But before rushing into decisions, it's really 39 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: important to think about the time frames and the actual 40 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: goals themselves. You know, what does she want this money 41 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: to do for her today and in five years, ten years, 42 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: twenty years, or even forty years. We need to think 43 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: about this and maybe write down some notes. Also, if 44 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: she thinks that she might need this money in the 45 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: short term, maybe to buy her first car, help pay 46 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: for university costs or other educational expenses. You know, maybe 47 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: she uses this money to put towards the home deposit 48 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: or an investment property, or even if she's just not 49 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: sure yet what she wants, then keeping it in cash, 50 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: to be honest, is the safest option. Why because investing 51 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: in shares or property for a short period of time 52 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: is fraught with danger. It is risky. You know, markets 53 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: can drop suddenly, and the last thing you'd want is 54 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: for her to need that money and the market is 55 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: down and be forced to sell at a loss. So 56 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: if she needs flexibility, cash is really the best place 57 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: right now. It may not grow by money, but at 58 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: least it will always be there for her now. On 59 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: the other hand, if she knows that she doesn't need 60 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: this money for many, many years, and she's curious about 61 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: how to make this money grow, then investing could perhaps 62 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: be a really smart choice for her now. This is 63 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: where it's important to think about her risk profile at 64 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: age eighteen, with potentially decades ahead before she needs this money. 65 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: She might be suited to some growth investments like ETFs, 66 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 1: listed investment companies, or even individual shares if she wants 67 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: to do this. These offer strong long term returns, but 68 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: they come with obviously an increased amount of risk and volatility, 69 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: particularly in the short to medium term. So the key 70 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: question is that I would be asking her, is you know, 71 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: how would she feel if her portfolio dropped by say, 72 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,119 Speaker 1: twenty to thirty percent in a market crash. I'd also 73 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: be asking her to sh you understand the difference between 74 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: the market value of a share portfolio and the actual 75 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: dividends the income paid from these investments. I'd also be 76 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: asking her is she interested maybe long term wealth creation 77 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: or does she just want flexibility to be able to 78 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: access that money sooner. This is not about telling her 79 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: what to do or manipulating her. It's actually about giving 80 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: her the tools and the language so that she feels 81 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: empowered to make her own decisions with her own money. 82 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: And one of the best things that she can do 83 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: right now before making any decision is to educate herself. 84 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: I encourage or I insist that you get her to 85 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: read a couple of personal finance books and listen to 86 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: a few podcasts and inspire her to take ownership of 87 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: her financial wellbeing. You know, Mindful Money is a great 88 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: book to get started, or even the thousand Dollars Project. 89 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: Of course, there are so many books out there, and 90 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: if she's interested in Australian shares, I've mentioned it before 91 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: and I'll mention it again. Peter Thornhill's motivated money because, 92 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: as the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, 93 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: but she can't make it drink. As her mother, you 94 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: can guide her, but ultimately she's got to be the 95 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: one that is ready and willing to build her own 96 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: knowledge and confidence. When she starts to understand how those 97 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: small efforts made consistently over time create enormous long term 98 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: financial results, hopefully she'll begin to see that she has 99 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: the power to become a strong, independent and financially secure 100 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: woman and be part of the ripple effect where she 101 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: educates in powers the other women around her, and her 102 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: children and her grandchildren. This is so important, and of 103 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: course it doesn't have to be all or nothing here. 104 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: If she wanted to, she could actually split this money 105 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: and use it for say different buckets. For example, she 106 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: might want to keep behalf of this money and like 107 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: a high interest savings account for short term security, and 108 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: then invest the other half in to say, you know, 109 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: a dividend based ETF for a listed investment company for 110 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: long term growth, meaning that money can also be properly diversified. 111 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: This way, she has a safety of the cash, but 112 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: she's also learning firsthand how compounding interest works. In fact, 113 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: even fifteen thousand dollars invested for twenty years could grow substantially, 114 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: especially if she can contribute to this on a regular 115 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: basis as well. And it's not just about the returns. 116 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: It's about creating the habit and the confidence of being 117 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: a young investor, hopefully a young wise investor. So here 118 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: is my advice to this mother. Use this as a 119 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: chance to teach, not to decide. Encourage your daughter to 120 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: set really clear goals, think about timelines, and reflect on 121 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: her own level of comfort with risk. Remind her that 122 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: terr money should always stay in cash, but it is 123 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: actually long term money that can grow through investing, you know. 124 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Encourage her to contribute to this when she can, even 125 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: small amounts. Build up over time, and please don't forget 126 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: about superannuation. It's probably the last thing an eighteen year 127 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: old's mind is on, but making sure her super when 128 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: she gets her first job is set up correctly, the 129 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: money's invested, and she understands about how to check her 130 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: employee contributions, the fees. You know, how it's going to 131 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: work for her, and how she can if she wants 132 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: to maybe look at contributing, because doing this can make 133 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: an enormous difference later on, and as her confidence grows 134 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: and she builds her post investment portfolio and is contributing 135 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: and has that powerful aha moment, there's also the possibility 136 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: of learning about more advanced strategies in the future, like, 137 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: for example, borrowing to invest through say a margin loan. Now, 138 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: this is not something she needs to rush in by 139 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: any means, and it is most definitely a higher risk 140 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: strategy that should always be done with professional personal advice 141 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: from a licensed financial planner and with a very clear 142 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: plan in place so that you can proactively navigate those 143 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: risks and obviously strategically minimize them as much as possible. 144 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: But when a gearing plan is done the right way 145 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: for the right reasons, and at the right stage of life, 146 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: it definitely can accelerate the wealth creation journey. And it's 147 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: something I started doing when I was in my early 148 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: twenties actually, But of course it's most definitely not for everyone, 149 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: but it's always worth her knowing about this particular tool 150 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: and strategy and how you know it exists, and so 151 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: that when she is older one day and more experienced 152 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: and you know, then financially ready, she'll know whether it's 153 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: right for her or not and how to set it 154 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: up and do it in the best way for her. 155 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: Of course, most importantly right now, frame this not as 156 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: a burden, and not that I think you're framing it 157 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: as a burden, but for other listeners in similar situations. 158 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: But think of this as a gift. This money is 159 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: a chance for her to learn, to grow, and to 160 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: start her adult life with a financial head start, if 161 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: you want to call it something that many young people 162 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: never really get. So no, I'm sorry, there's no single 163 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: right answer for you right now. But with education, empowerment 164 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: and the space to learn through books, through podcasts and 165 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: lived experience, she'll be in the best possible position to 166 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: turn this gift into something so much bigger over her lifetime, 167 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: and maybe one day, when the time is right, she'll 168 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: even be ready to explore more advanced strategies, but always 169 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: doing so with confidence and knowledge by her side. So 170 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much to this mother for such a 171 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: full question and for caring so incredibly deeply about your 172 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: daughter's financial future. 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