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Speaker 1: On Scorne Wilds Australia.

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Speaker 2: It's the winder Panety Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Paney Show.

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Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, the Albanizer government under renewed pressure for

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Speaker 4: its mishandling of the Britney Higgins saga. The panel will

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Speaker 4: be here shortly to discuss that and much more. The

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Speaker 4: Great John hender Raker will have the latest from the US,

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Speaker 4: including Democrat lawmakers, the Seditious Six being investigated by the FBI.

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Speaker 4: I'll be joined by a brave young woman taking on

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Speaker 4: the likes of Abby Chatfield to change the hearts and

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Speaker 4: minds of Australian women. And d D Dunleavy will be

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Speaker 4: here to cover the day's top royal and entertainment news,

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Speaker 4: including claims that Meghan Markaul has been helping herself to

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Speaker 4: dresses and Left is Losing It features this former MSNBC

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Speaker 4: anchor turned full time race Beta making some file comments

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Speaker 4: about Vice President ja the Vans and his wife Pusher.

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Speaker 5: Wouldn't it be the most perfect fairytale Maga fairytale if

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Speaker 5: he finally sees the light that he needs a white

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Speaker 5: queen instead of this brown Hindu.

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Speaker 4: But first, the Trump administration has announced it will start

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Speaker 4: collecting data on crimes and human rights abuses committed by

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Speaker 4: migrants in Australia. A senior State Department official send the

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Speaker 4: instructions to diplomats at its embassy in Canberra and send

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Speaker 4: similar cables to US embassies in Europe, Canada and New Zealand.

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Speaker 4: The senior State Department official told The Sydney Morning Herald

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Speaker 4: that the US government was concerned a large influx of

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Speaker 4: migrants could strain markets. He said, you also have to

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Speaker 4: understand the limitations and the security concerns that come with

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Speaker 4: mass migration and what happens when you import a substantial

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Speaker 4: number of people into a very tight particular area. Joining

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Speaker 4: me now is Sky News Sport Caroline Marcus and Sky

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Speaker 4: News contributor Louise Roberts. Ladies, this is very interesting, indeed, Caroline,

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Speaker 4: I'll start with you. I guess it's good that somebody

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Speaker 4: is doing this work because authorities in this country have

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Speaker 4: made it increasingly difficult to obtain data like this on

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Speaker 4: the crime rates of different ethnic groups.

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Speaker 6: Well, the Australian Bureau of Crime Statistics doesn't calculate and

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Speaker 6: doesn't collate that information by ethnicity. You can find it

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Speaker 6: in certain state based organizations, custodial figures, Victorian crimes figures

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Speaker 6: which do show an over representation and Victoria, for example,

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Speaker 6: of people from South Sudan in their crime statistics. And

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Speaker 6: you can see the number of people incarcerated in New

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Speaker 6: South Wales prison fourteen percent come from overseas. But it

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Speaker 6: is difficult to find out all the information, and I

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Speaker 6: think that's deliberate. I think authorities here deliberately try to

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Speaker 6: be vague about it. They're a bit scared on this

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Speaker 6: issue because they don't want to be accused of being

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Speaker 6: racist or stoking racism, at least that's their excuse. But

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Speaker 6: really it.

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Speaker 3: Is being dishonest with people.

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Speaker 6: And if this is what it takes in order for

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Speaker 6: us to find out the truth about what is happening,

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Speaker 6: especially in certain ethnic communities where the gaps in the

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Speaker 6: system are, and really be honest with people about the

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Speaker 6: risks of mass migration and migration from certain places, then

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Speaker 6: that is a good thing. I mean, I'll note that

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Speaker 6: one of the other things that this official, this US

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Speaker 6: official said in this interview with a journalist is that

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Speaker 6: this is a significant intake of migrants from a culture

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Speaker 6: that's different from ours is also poses a risk, and

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Speaker 6: you only have to look at what's happened in the

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Speaker 6: past two years here weekly mass protests, often violent protests,

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Speaker 6: skyrocketing rates of anti Semitism to see that's something that

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Speaker 6: has already been happening in Australia.

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Speaker 4: Louise, do you see any fundamental problems with this plan

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Speaker 4: with the Trump administration collecting this starter? I think the

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Speaker 4: Australian people would be very interested to know what they

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Speaker 4: find out.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with you there, Rita, And I think

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Speaker 7: there'll certainly be those in Canberra who feel this is

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Speaker 7: the US government over reaching into our backyard and trying

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Speaker 7: to tell us how to run our immigration and migration portfolios.

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Speaker 7: But I think that you know, overall, this is a

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Speaker 7: good idea because it will actually hopefully lead to a

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Speaker 7: proper debate, a proper data driven debate about mass migration

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Speaker 7: and immigration. And the timing of it is quite incredible really,

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Speaker 7: given that Susan Lay is about to launch her immigration

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Speaker 7: that next after tackling net zero, so it could actually

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Speaker 7: if she's sort of able to prove that there is

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Speaker 7: an issue with mass migration and that we need to recalibrate.

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Speaker 7: We need to actually slow down and pause and let

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Speaker 7: our infrastructure, our schools, our education system, our health, our

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Speaker 7: housing in particular catch up. I don't think Australian's got

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Speaker 7: an issue with migrants. It's more about this tidal wave

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Speaker 4: Well, I think there's an increasing number of Australians who

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Speaker 4: them on this issue, and there's been polling that bears

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Speaker 4: that out. Now, let's talk about the Albinezi government facing

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Speaker 4: more calls for transparency over its handling of the legal

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Speaker 4: action brought by Linda Reynolds and Fiona Brown in the

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Speaker 3: Attorney General Michelle Roland has.

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Speaker 4: Refused to disclose whether the lawyers hired to fight the

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Speaker 4: two cases are being paid more than the threshold rate

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Speaker 4: of five thousand dollars per day, and whether she has

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Speaker 4: signed off on a higher fees. Caroline, A spokesperson told

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Speaker 4: The Australian newspaper that the specific rate charge by counsel

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Speaker 4: in a particular matter is generally commercially sensitive information for counsel.

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Speaker 4: But aren't we entitled to know how much we are

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Speaker 4: paying for this legal representation? This is taxpayer funded after all.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely we are funding the bill. Therefore we should know

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Speaker 6: about it. I mean, the guy who is apparently heading

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Speaker 6: this legal team, he's a former solicitor general. He charges

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Speaker 1: Five thousand a day.

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Speaker 6: I think we're in the wrong profession first of all, ladies,

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Speaker 6: with these sums being tossed around. But secondly, I mean

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Speaker 6: this comes We're talking millions of legal fees if this

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Speaker 6: gets to a trial, and it seems clear that the

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Speaker 6: Commonwealth is preparing to fully defend this case if they've

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Speaker 6: hired such a crack team. Millions on top of the

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Speaker 6: two point four million dollar payout that Brittany Higgins got

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Speaker 6: from the government after only one day of mediation, in

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Speaker 6: which the then Minister Linda Reynolds wasn't even allowed to

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Speaker 6: defend herself or challenge what turned out to be false

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Speaker 6: claims about a political cover up of her rape.

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Speaker 3: A court did.

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Speaker 6: Find that there was, on the balance of probabilities that

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Speaker 6: a rape likely occurred at Parliament House, but two courts

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Speaker 6: now have found there is no merit for a political

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Speaker 6: cover up, So why have we been paid out two

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Speaker 6: point four million dollars in conversation to someone half of

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Speaker 6: the main reason for that was the political cover up

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Speaker 6: and also her claims that she would never be able

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Speaker 6: working for a public relations boutique alongside her husband, who

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Speaker 6: helped orchestrate the entire political cover up narrative. I sat

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Speaker 6: through the defamation trial that Bruce Loman brought against ten,

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Speaker 6: where that political cover up was found by the judge

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Speaker 6: to have had no substance to it, and at this

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Speaker 6: point the Albanezi government should apologize to these women rather

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Speaker 6: than dragging this out any further in court. And this

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Speaker 6: that he wouldn't characterize that the findings of the court

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Speaker 6: in the way that we have all seen. So I

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Speaker 6: really think at this point they just need to stop,

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Speaker 6: admit that they made that there was a mistake made

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Speaker 6: in this payout, and just you know, say sorry to

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Speaker 6: these women for everything they put them through.

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Speaker 4: Louise, I've got to agree with Caroline here The way

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Speaker 4: Fiona Brown and Linda Reynolds have been treated is going

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Speaker 4: to be an enduring stain on the Albanese government and

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Speaker 4: they need to take some accountability. They've got to stop

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Speaker 4: doubling down and pretending that the facts aren't the facts

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Speaker 4: to Courts have found that there was no cover up

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Speaker 4: and these two women have suffered terribly because of this injustice.

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Speaker 7: That's right, and to all your points here, I mean

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Speaker 7: why taxpayer is now going to be spending millions more

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Speaker 7: on fighting these two women when they have been cleared

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Speaker 7: of no wrongdoing. When you compare that to what Brittany

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Speaker 7: received the two point four million, that was all very tidy,

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Speaker 7: wasn't it. So from a taxpayer's point of view, this

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Speaker 7: should be done and dusted. We've got plenty better things

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Speaker 7: to spend money on than this. Another core case with

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Speaker 7: these incredibly high paid lawyers.

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Speaker 4: Now the Australian is reporting climate change and Energy Minister

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Speaker 4: Chris Bowen will not travel to Columbia for a climate

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Speaker 4: event in April next year. Bowen couldn't say how many

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Speaker 4: sitting days of Parliament he would miss and how much

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Speaker 4: taxpayer funds would be spent on international travel to fulfill

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Speaker 4: his new role as COP thirty one president. Susan Lee

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Speaker 4: took a jab role during question time yesterday.

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Speaker 8: The Coalition thanks the full time president of COP thirty

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Speaker 8: one negotiations for taking the time today to make himself

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Speaker 8: available and accountable to the Australian Parliament. How many days

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Speaker 8: of parliament will the part time minister miss in twenty

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Speaker 8: twenty six and what will be the cost to Australian taxpayers?

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Speaker 4: Louisa the Coalition has finally worked out. I don't know

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Speaker 4: why it took them so long that Chris Bowen is

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Speaker 4: a week link and Labour's climate policies are a week link.

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Speaker 4: I guess when they were signed up to net zero

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Speaker 3: But now that they've abandoned net zero, game on.

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Speaker 7: Game on, absolutely And to anyone at home watching this

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Speaker 7: thinking he's the part time minister and the full time president,

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Speaker 7: what's it getting paid for that? And what about my

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Speaker 7: energy bills? Why have I opened an energy miili one

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Speaker 7: month which was eight hundred dollars or something like that.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure that's not an uncommon story for people watching

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Speaker 7: this program tonight. So what's it going to call it,

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Speaker 7: and how can he actually explain to us that he's

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Speaker 7: going to do the job that he's meant to do

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Speaker 7: for us, which is a course the Minister for Energy,

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Speaker 7: and what's he going to do about costs of living

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Speaker 7: in that department. Look, it's a real tumbleweed situation on that, I.

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Speaker 4: Feel, Caroline, how do you think the coalition is going

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Speaker 4: to tackle the issue of climate change and energy policy

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Speaker 4: now that they have walked away from their zero They

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Speaker 4: and now they've been signed up to that policy, but

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Speaker 4: they're also free now to really argue about affordability and

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Speaker 4: reliability and not just emissions.

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Speaker 6: That's certainly the line that I've heard them push in

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Speaker 6: all the media interviews since they walked away.

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Speaker 3: From let zero.

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Speaker 6: Time and again they say they trot out this line

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Speaker 6: where now the party for energy affordability over energy emissions.

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Speaker 3: That's our priority now.

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Speaker 6: And that's all well and good, and that could win

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Speaker 6: them an election if they can really prosecute that properly

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Speaker 6: tell Australians really how much they're paying for this climate craziness. However,

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Speaker 6: they still do have one foot out the door and

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Speaker 6: one foot in because they're still in the Paris Agreement.

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Speaker 6: So you could argue that unless they are fully committed

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Speaker 6: to changing doing what US President Donald Trump has done

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Speaker 6: leaving Paris, making it clear where they priorities like the

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Speaker 6: electric could still be a bit confused about where they

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Speaker 6: really stand.

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Speaker 4: That's an excellent point, because they are theout taking a

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Speaker 4: position that's a little bit incoherent. And if you really

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Speaker 4: want to prosecute the case, if you really want to have.

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Speaker 3: That fight, you've got to leave Paris.

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Speaker 4: You can't be saying this is a crisis and we

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Speaker 4: have to commit to these targets globally, when really your

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Speaker 4: policies don't reflect that.

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Speaker 3: Ladies, before you go, let's talk housing.

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Speaker 9: I think that every woman and every person with a

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Speaker 9: Well, it's kind of actually like a virus is leaching

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Speaker 10: It's not a virus because definitionally it's actually the same species.

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Speaker 9: I have a drug addict and I have alcoholism, and

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Speaker 4: Please to welcome Hannah Ferujia two SKA News for her

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Speaker 3: Hannah, you are pro life.

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Speaker 4: That is a minority position in this country, particularly amongst

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Speaker 11: Thanks, Reta. I think the old fashioned way, just having

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Speaker 4: Now, I want to play you a clip of Abby Chatfield,

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Speaker 12: If you say that you are pro choice, yet you go, well,

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Speaker 13: Yeah, abush and time, abush and time, get it out

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Speaker 12: But people often report feeling relieved post abortion.

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Speaker 3: So do without what you will.

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Speaker 4: What's your response to that, Hannah.

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Speaker 11: I think that if you say you love abortion, that's

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Speaker 11: a pretty extremist view, even for a pro choice person.

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Speaker 11: I think it's just another angle at trying to rewrite

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Speaker 11: I think it's completely insane, honestly, I from being frank.

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Speaker 4: Do you worry about the influence that women like her

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Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, I think that. You know, I have a

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Speaker 11: Content like that. I'm still pretty young, and I have

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Speaker 4: Now, we have very liberal abortion laws in this country,

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Speaker 3: It is a more nuanced.

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Speaker 4: Issue than many in the media claim. Hannah, how do

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Speaker 11: No, it's not a majority of abortions. Late term abortions

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Speaker 11: and that's just not true. The data tells us that,

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Speaker 11: And I think that's what we're actually doing as bird Flip,

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Speaker 11: It looks like a baby. As far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh absolutely, And the data bears that out that

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Speaker 4: Hannah Feruccia. Thank you so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Rider still to come.

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Speaker 4: Lefties losing it plus Democrat lawmakers the Seditious Six are

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Speaker 4: being investigated by the FBI.

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Speaker 3: John Heinderaika is up next.

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Speaker 4: You're watching the Reader Panehy Show, and it's time for

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Speaker 4: left He's losing it and we're going to start in

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Speaker 4: the gutter tonight, folks, we're going to hear from the

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Speaker 4: most reprehensible trolls on the Internet, the profoundly delusional and

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Speaker 3: What you're about to hear is the.

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Speaker 4: Unhinged musings of irredeemably awful people.

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Speaker 3: And I don't say that lightly.

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Speaker 4: Listen and take note of just how low and ugly

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Speaker 3: Vance and Usher Vance.

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Speaker 4: It's not just ugly, it's utterly divorced from reality.

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Speaker 5: They can't have the successor to Maga be the guy

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Speaker 5: with the brown Hindu wife. They're also Christian nationalists that

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Speaker 5: it can work. That's why he's throwing his wife under

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Speaker 14: In on it right and slap and tackle with Erica Kirks.

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Speaker 5: Shit I've ever seen it's She's like in her Tammy

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine.

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Speaker 5: If wouldn't it be the most perfect fairy tale, Maga

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Speaker 4: White queen instead of the brown Hindu. I told you

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Speaker 4: they're vile, racist and vile. That's what happens when you

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Speaker 3: And let's talk about.

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Speaker 4: That supposedly inappropriate hug between Erica Kirk and JD.

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Speaker 4: Let me play you the whole thing in full. It

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 4: That was the hug and Erica Kirk has since explained

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Speaker 3: Vance approached her.

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Speaker 4: He told her Charlie would be so proud of her,

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Speaker 3: Let's get back to.

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Speaker 4: The vile race faces, Joy Read and Jennifer Welch and

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Speaker 5: Vance has a problem in that the beast of MAGA

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Speaker 5: is fundamentally recent. I don't know, people don't like it

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Speaker 5: when you say it, but it was. It's the emergence

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Speaker 5: say illegal. I'm sorry, I said it again. That is

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Speaker 4: So the word illegal a correct, accurate term. Illegal term

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Speaker 5: to impeach, but they were afraid that they'd be assassinated

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Speaker 5: by Trump supporters because Mega supporters are armed to the teeth.

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Speaker 5: They are rabid in their support of him, and it's

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Speaker 5: a religion, so they will commit behard Trump.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the right that is committing acts of political violence.

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Speaker 4: These people exist in a parallel universe. Now let's hear

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Speaker 4: it from a woman who seems to be admitting to

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Speaker 4: breaking the law by being blatantly racist, charging white people

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Speaker 4: more for the same service for just being white.

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Speaker 3: And she's supposed to be an attorney.

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Speaker 1: I love to overcharge white people and organizations and do

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Speaker 1: pro bono work for black works. And that's just me

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Speaker 1: being very blunt. I will give them ridiculous rates, and

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Speaker 1: then I'll have like a nonprofit or a black org

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Speaker 1: or somebody doing some work and be like, I've only

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Speaker 1: got this much money, and I'm like, keep it. A

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Speaker 1: white person, just cut me a check. Let's do this.

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Speaker 4: Refrie charming, but it appears that she only discriminates against

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Speaker 4: white people while at work because in a personal life,

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Speaker 4: she has chosen to be married to just about the

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Speaker 4: whitest man in America.

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Speaker 3: You will stud with you between the habits and the earth.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you where you want. You love me.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 4: Now to New Orleans, the most dangerous city in America.

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Speaker 4: Let's hear from the police superintendent there and Kirkpatrick, who

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Speaker 4: is clearly some sort of DEI higher because she doesn't

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Speaker 4: even understand the law, the law she's supposed to uphold. Here,

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Speaker 4: she claims that being in the country illegally is just

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Speaker 4: a civil matter.

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Speaker 6: We have taken back our own ownership of our agency

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Speaker 6: to be in the country undocumented, this civil issue.

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Speaker 14: We will not enforce civil law.

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Speaker 4: Now we may mock the leftist media endlessly in this segment,

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Speaker 4: but rest assured they are not just worthy of mockery,

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Speaker 4: but of condemnation. Look what they have done to this

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Speaker 4: poor kid who is terrified that his family will be

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Speaker 4: snatched off the streets and deported despite the fact that

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Speaker 4: they are citizens.

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Speaker 3: This is what fake news can do.

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Speaker 2: I'm scared for my parents to walk out there, to

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Speaker 2: walk out their house, because I might not be able

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Speaker 2: to say goodbye to them if they go to work.

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Speaker 2: I'm scared that everyone that I love is no I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna be able to see them again. Because even

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Speaker 2: though that the US citizens, they don't care about us.

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Speaker 2: They treat us like dogs. They treat us like animals.

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Speaker 2: I should not live like this as a sixteen year old.

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't be scared. I should be focusing on school

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Speaker 2: when I came and focused on school.

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Speaker 4: Joining me now is the president of the Center of

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Speaker 4: the American Experiment and the man behind the popular power

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Speaker 4: Line blog, John Heindereicher, John, It's sad. It's terribly sad

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Speaker 4: that a sixteen year old could have such a warped

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Speaker 4: sense of reality, a warped sense of what's happening in

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Speaker 4: the US, US citizens are not being deported, and yet

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Speaker 4: that kid lives in fear.

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Speaker 14: Radio. It's completely nuts. You can't part a citizen, there's

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Speaker 14: no such thing. It makes no sense. But let's put

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Speaker 14: the blame where it belongs. Democratic Party politicians have been

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Speaker 14: going around for months now falsely claiming that the Trump

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Speaker 14: administration is somehow deporting American citizens. It's a complete lie.

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Speaker 14: It doesn't even make sense, and yet you see people

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Speaker 14: like this poor sixteen year old kid actually believing it.

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Speaker 3: Now, talking about a warp sense of reality. Tell me

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Speaker 3: about this crazy.

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Speaker 4: Story of a man, a biological male, winning the World's

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Speaker 4: Strongest Woman competition, only to be stripped of the title

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Speaker 4: after organizers realized that she was indeed a he and

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Speaker 4: born a man. Jamie Booker was disqualified earlier today after

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Speaker 4: destroying the competition at the official World Championship in Arlington,

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Speaker 4: Texas over the weekend. John sanity has prevailed in this case,

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Speaker 4: but it's just another example of why this sort of

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Speaker 4: lunacy had a massive impact in the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 4: One of Trump's most impactful ads was regarding this issue.

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Speaker 14: You're absolutely right, Rita, and the insanity continues in my

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Speaker 14: own state of Minnesota, our Supreme Court recently held that

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Speaker 14: the USA Powerlifting Organization is required to allow men to

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Speaker 14: compete in the women's powerlifting division as a matter of

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Speaker 14: Minnesota law. So this insanity, I think is quit hit

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Speaker 14: be with us for some time to come. And frankly, Rita,

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Speaker 14: it is a gift to the Republican Party.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it is a gift.

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Speaker 4: And some of those Blue states, blue cities are persevering.

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Speaker 4: And yet it is almost an eighty twenty issue. Sometimes

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Speaker 4: I think it's a ninety ten issue when the overwhelming

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Speaker 4: majority of people think this is grossly unfair, should be happening,

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Speaker 4: and yet you've got the political class, the media activist class,

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Speaker 4: backing this sort of craziness.

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Speaker 3: Now, I played footage earlier.

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Speaker 4: John of the New Orleans Police Superintendent and Kirkpatrick, and

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Speaker 4: she claimed that being in the country illegally is a

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Speaker 4: civil issue and her police force will not enforce civil law.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to say about this.

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Speaker 4: Can you enlighten the New Orleans Police superintendent about the law, please?

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Speaker 14: I think so, Rita. Undersection thirteen twenty five of the

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Speaker 14: United States Code, illegal entry is a felony punishable by

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Speaker 14: up to six months in prison for a first offense.

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Speaker 14: Now it also is subject to a civil penalty, but

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Speaker 14: the laws specifically says that that is in addition to,

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Speaker 14: and not in lieu of, any criminal penalties. And here again,

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Speaker 14: this is something that you hear a Democrat Party politicians

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Speaker 14: misrepresenting frequently, and they're simply wrong about what the law is.

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Speaker 4: Well, how can you have people in positions like this

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Speaker 4: openly defying the law and how much of that is

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Speaker 4: happening in the US where it in Blu Cidies was

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Speaker 4: as great resistance towards the deportation program in particular, You've

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Speaker 4: got people in positions of authority saying we're.

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Speaker 3: Not going to accept this.

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Speaker 4: We don't care if there is a mandate, we are

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Speaker 4: going to find a way not to do it.

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Speaker 14: We're seeing this across the country where Democratic Party mayors

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Speaker 14: and sometimes governors are trained to interfere with the enforcement

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Speaker 14: of federal law. That's what's going on here. It is

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Speaker 14: illegal to be in this country illegally, right, and the

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Speaker 14: Trump administration is carrying out its duty under Article two

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Speaker 14: of the Constitution to enforce the law. And yet we

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Speaker 14: do have these mayors and these governors literally trained to

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Speaker 14: obstruct the enforcement of federal law. It's a real scandal.

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Speaker 3: It is a scandal. And they won't even use the

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Speaker 3: word illegal.

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Speaker 4: I've noticed that with the Chicago met Brandon Johnson and

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Speaker 4: I heard Joy Read earlier today say that the word

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Speaker 4: illegal is the new n word.

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Speaker 3: John, So you.

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Speaker 4: Can't even accurately describe an an illegal immigrant by using

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Speaker 4: the word illegal. They're trying to make that taboo.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, they like to use the word undocumented, as if

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Speaker 14: the guy just lost his driver's license or something. The

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Speaker 14: correct phrase in the law is illegal alien. Okay, that

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Speaker 14: is the correct legal phrase.

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Speaker 4: Now, sticking with New Orleans for a second, Given this

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Speaker 4: woman is leading the police force there, I can understand

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Speaker 4: why crime in New Orleans is out of control. It

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Speaker 4: has been ranked the most dangerous city in the US,

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Speaker 4: and it's homicide rate is dramatically high than the rest

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Speaker 4: of the country.

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Speaker 3: John how big an issue is crime in.

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Speaker 4: Those big cities like New Orleans, Chicago, New York. Is

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Speaker 4: it something that you see having an impact in the midterms,

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Speaker 4: for example.

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Speaker 14: It's a huge issue across the country. It certainly will

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Speaker 14: be an issue in the midterms, as it was in

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Speaker 14: twenty twenty four. But frankly, Rita, it's kind of a

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Speaker 14: mystery these cities like Chicago and New Orleans and many

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Speaker 14: others that have been just riddled with crime for years.

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Speaker 14: Why don't these people change their ways when they get

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Speaker 14: to the voting booth. Why do they keep voting for

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Speaker 14: these politicians who will not enforce the law. Honestly, it

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Speaker 14: is very hard to explain.

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Speaker 4: Now, John, tell me about the continued fallout from a

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Speaker 4: video of Democrat lawmakers urging US service members to refuse

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Speaker 4: what they call legal orders. They supposed illegal orders. They

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Speaker 4: don't spell out any of them, and they've been asked

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Speaker 4: some of them in interviews since this video was released,

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Speaker 4: and they can't name any Donald Trump called the video seditious,

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Speaker 4: And now the FBI has contacted the US Capitol Police

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Speaker 4: to begin scheduling interviews with the six members of Congress

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Speaker 4: who appeared in that video.

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Speaker 3: Could we see charges here?

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Speaker 9: We might?

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Speaker 3: Reader.

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Speaker 14: I think that Senator Mark Kelly is the one who

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Speaker 14: is in the most peril, and the reason for that

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Speaker 14: is that he is a retired officer who is still

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Speaker 14: subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. He could

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Speaker 14: be recalled to active duty and court martialed. I don't

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Speaker 14: know if that's going to happen or not, but it

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Speaker 14: certainly could. You know, the Seditious six as we call them,

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Speaker 14: thought that they were safe because in the video they

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Speaker 14: say you can disobey illegal orders, and of course that's true,

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Speaker 14: but they clearly am applied. And I think we stated

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Speaker 14: outright in that video that the Trump administration is issuing

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Speaker 14: illegal orders to servicemen left and right, and as you say,

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Speaker 14: at least two of them have admitted no, we don't

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Speaker 14: know if a single illegal order that the Trump administration

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Speaker 14: has issued. And what they don't say in the video

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Speaker 14: is that military orders are presumed to be lawful and

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Speaker 14: that philosophical disagreement is not a basis for refusing to

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Speaker 14: obey an order. And so if there are service members

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Speaker 14: who actually follow the advice of these six elected Democratic

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Speaker 14: politicians and refuse to obey or orders, they could be

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Speaker 14: in real trouble. And so we'll see how this plays out.

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Speaker 14: The FBI is going to interview them. I think Secretary

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Speaker 14: Pete Hegseth is looking at investigating Senator Kelly with a

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Speaker 14: view toward possibly recalling him to active duty and court martialing.

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Speaker 14: So It's a serious situation.

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Speaker 3: It absolutely is.

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Speaker 4: They're asking members of the military to defy the chain

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Speaker 4: of command based on feelings because they can't name anything

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Speaker 4: concrete which was an illegal order.

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Speaker 3: And when Senator Elissa Slotkin.

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Speaker 4: Was asked about this, I think it was on CNN,

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Speaker 4: she just flounder.

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Speaker 3: John. She was talking about.

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Speaker 4: A Few Good Men, a movie starring Tom Cruise, as

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Speaker 4: an example of what could happen if you follow an

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Speaker 4: illegal order. I mean, it is fast, high, fast. But

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Speaker 4: if members of the military do listen to these individuals

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Speaker 4: and defy a lawful order, they could find themselves in

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Speaker 4: terrible trouble.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely, and insating military personnel to disobey orders is a crime.

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Speaker 4: As Donald Trump trying to point out. Now, what's the

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Speaker 4: latest on the cases against former FBI director James Comy

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Speaker 4: and New York Attorney General Letitia James M's earlier this

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Speaker 4: week a democratical point to judge dismissed the indictments against

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Speaker 4: both of them on a technicality. She found the President

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Speaker 4: Trump's appointment of interim US Attorney Lindsay Halligan in Alexandria,

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Speaker 4: Virginia was invalid.

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Speaker 3: Is the case dead? John?

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Speaker 4: Now, against both these individuals or charges against Comy and

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Speaker 4: James likely to be refiled.

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Speaker 14: Well, what's going on here, as you say, is that

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Speaker 14: the court held that Lindsay Halligan was not properly appointed

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Speaker 14: as an interim important point, interim us attorney. The court

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Speaker 14: maybe right about that. It's a close question under federal law.

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Speaker 14: The real issue is where do we go from here.

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Speaker 14: The dismissals were without prejudice, which means that the criminal

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Speaker 14: charges can be refiled. I assume that the criminal charges

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Speaker 14: against Letitia James, New York's Attorney General, which are strong,

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Speaker 14: will be refiled. However, the statute of limitations has run

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Speaker 14: the perjury charge against James call Mey, former FBI director,

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Speaker 14: So if this ruling stands up on appeal, that charge

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Speaker 14: cannot be reinstated.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that one's interesting.

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Speaker 4: Now before you go, We've had Donald Trump overseeing eight

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Speaker 4: peace steals so far in his second term, but the

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Speaker 4: most elusive one appears to be Russia Ukraine that seems

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Speaker 4: to be getting closer and closer. How do you see that, John,

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Speaker 4: Is that something that there could be a resolution to

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Speaker 4: by the end of this week?

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Speaker 3: Possibly?

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Speaker 14: I sure hope so Rita. That war needs to end

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Speaker 14: it's been an absolute catastrophe, both for Ukraine and for Russia.

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Speaker 14: The problem is that the Russians so far have not

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Speaker 14: indicated any willingness to back away from their core demands.

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Speaker 14: They want to keep all of the territory which they

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Speaker 14: have taken militarily, and they want to guarantee that Ukraine

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Speaker 14: will not ever be allowed to join NATO, and they

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Speaker 14: may want some kind of demilitarization of Ukraine. And so

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Speaker 14: there's a new proposal now that the Trump administration has

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Speaker 14: been working on with the Europeans and with Zlenski's government,

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Speaker 14: and it apparently is now acceptable to Ukraine. But it's

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Speaker 14: a huge question is it going to be acceptable to Russia.

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Speaker 14: That's the real problem, And I don't know. All I

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Speaker 14: can say is that so far the Russians have been

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Speaker 14: adamant in not backing off on their demands.

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Speaker 4: We were told so often throughout this war that Ukraine

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Speaker 4: had the upper hand, that Russian forces were depleted, that

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Speaker 4: were demoralized, that were being destroyed. Was there a bit

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Speaker 4: of misinformation in some of that reporting, because that doesn't

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Speaker 4: seem to be the case when you look at it now,

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Speaker 4: when you look at the territory that Russia has gained,

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Speaker 4: and the fact that they're not wanting to come to

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Speaker 4: the t and make any sort of major concessions.

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Speaker 14: Rita. I think when the war started, the Russians believed

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Speaker 14: they were going to march straight to Kiev, you know,

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Speaker 14: that they would have no problem, they would basically occupy

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Speaker 14: Ukraine and you know, take over a large section of

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Speaker 14: that country. That didn't happen. The Ukrainians put up a

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Speaker 14: much stiffer resistance than most people expected, and so a

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Speaker 14: lot of people were cheering on the Ukrainians saying, this

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Speaker 14: is great, you know, the Russians are being stemied, and

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Speaker 14: that's all true. However, the reality is that the Russians

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Speaker 14: have taken and held that eastern portion of Ukraine, which frankly,

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Speaker 14: historically was often a part of Russia and is largely

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Speaker 14: Russian speaking. They've taken that part of Ukraine, they've held it.

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Speaker 14: The Ukrainians have not been able to take it back.

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Speaker 14: And my guess, Rita, is that in any permanent solution,

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Speaker 14: the Russians are going to hang on to the territory

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Speaker 14: that they have taken militarily.

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Speaker 3: John Henderreich, thank you so much for your time tonight.

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Speaker 14: Great to be with you.

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Speaker 4: Rita Still to Come claims that Megan Markle has been

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Speaker 4: helping herself to dresses.

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Speaker 15: D D.

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Speaker 3: Done Levy, It's up next, welcome back.

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Speaker 4: Joining me now is broadcasting legend? D D Done Levy,

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Speaker 4: d D.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about JLO.

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Speaker 4: Jennifer Lopez, she just calls to stir on social media

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Speaker 4: after clips off her performing at a billionaire's wedding in

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Speaker 4: India began circulating.

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Speaker 3: Have a look stupid sore shuit.

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Speaker 16: Now.

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Speaker 4: People have criticized her lack of cultural sensitivity. Some have

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Speaker 4: said her outfits resembled that of a stripper, But didie,

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Speaker 4: I'm more concerned about the terrible sound the girl cannot sing.

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Speaker 3: Turn up the backing tape. That's what I would be

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Speaker 3: asking for.

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Speaker 16: Well, clearly she wasn't booked for her vocal abilities.

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Speaker 3: She was booked for the way she looks. Look.

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Speaker 16: I think all these people who are outraged on social media,

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Speaker 16: it was a private event, so you've had to go

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Speaker 16: out of your way to get outraged, so you can

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Speaker 16: be quiet. I'm not the hugest fan of j LO

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Speaker 16: waggling her bits about she's showing us that she's fifty six,

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Speaker 16: but she's.

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Speaker 3: Still got it.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, well done girl. But the couple who were getting married,

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Speaker 16: they paid two million dollars for the privilege of having her.

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Speaker 3: Their dress that way. I don't think they expected.

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Speaker 16: Her to turn up wearing overalls and gum boots, so

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Speaker 16: they got what they're paid for. They don't look offended

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Speaker 16: at all.

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Speaker 3: And I can't actually.

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Speaker 14: See what the outrage is about.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you should be just when you've

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Speaker 4: got a bride in the room and it's it's a

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Speaker 4: party for the happy couple. I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: should be upstaging the bride. So that's possibly the faux pa.

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Speaker 16: Everyone knows what j Loo looks like, what she does like,

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Speaker 16: if the bride didn't know that before, or a skirt.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we don't all need to see. We're not

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Speaker 4: her gynecologists. We can just leave some things a mystery.

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Speaker 3: Now. Last week, Netflix.

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Speaker 4: Dropped the trailer for Meghan Markles holiday specials. I know

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Speaker 4: you can't wait for that. You can see Meghan decorating

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Speaker 4: her home in a green gown, and eagle eyed viewers

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Speaker 4: notice this was the same green gown she wore during

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Speaker 4: a twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Two photo shoot for Variety, and.

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Speaker 4: As sources told Page six that Meghan allegedly took this gown,

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Speaker 4: which retails for sixteen hundred and ninety five dollars.

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Speaker 3: Us did she allegedly took the dress from the shoot

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Speaker 3: without asking. Surely that can't be right.

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Speaker 16: Surely, well, it could be right, But I also am

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Speaker 16: leaning more towards the fact that it's wrong. I'm ninety

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Speaker 16: nine percent sure that she hasn't done anything wrong here.

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Speaker 16: And it's rare for me to defend Meghan Markle.

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Speaker 3: But she's crafty.

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Speaker 16: I don't think she's stupid. I don't think she would

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Speaker 16: be dumb enough to steal something. And also it's not

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Speaker 16: unheard or for celebrities when they do a photo shoot

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Speaker 16: and they're dressed for it to be offered those garments,

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Speaker 16: or to pay a nominal fee for the more to

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Speaker 16: even be gifted them.

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Speaker 3: And also I.

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Speaker 16: Want to credit her for recycling. I mean, I like

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Speaker 16: it when you put a dress away for a few

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Speaker 16: years and get it out again and hope everyone's forgotten it.

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Speaker 16: That didn't happen in this case. But I think she

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Speaker 16: actually deserves credit for re wearing something and you know,

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Speaker 16: burning it after wearing it once.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, Dannie.

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Speaker 4: I'm giving you an official warning for praising Meghan Michael

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Speaker 4: on this program.

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Speaker 3: So it's just as an official warning. Nine couple mores

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Speaker 3: and you'll be banned. Yeah, okay, and you'll be banned.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you are free to love on Megan as much

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Speaker 4: as you like. But let's talk about Home Alone. It's

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Speaker 4: a Christmas movie, a favorite for families and the Starcaulli Coulkin,

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Speaker 4: who played Kevin McAllister in the nineteen ninety holiday classic,

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Speaker 4: he wants to have another sequel. He's raised the idea

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Speaker 4: of him being either a widower or a divorced.

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Speaker 3: See he said, I'm raising a kid and all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: I'm working really hard and I'm not really paying enough

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Speaker 4: attention and the kid is kind of getting miffed at me,

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Speaker 4: and then I.

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Speaker 3: Get locked out. Did it could work?

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Speaker 4: I mean, people love to revisit these classics and reimagine them.

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Speaker 16: I actually disagree that it could work because in the

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Speaker 16: original movie, Kevin was a very clever kid and the

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Speaker 16: two robbers who are trying to get him were just

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Speaker 16: a pair of numb skulls. So are we supposed to

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Speaker 16: believe that Kevin as an adult is dumber than his

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Speaker 16: own child, so the basic premise of it wouldn't work.

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Speaker 16: The really terrifying thing about this story is that Mccauney

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Speaker 16: Colcom was speaking about this at some sort of a

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Speaker 16: tour he's doing to Mark get this thirty fifth anniversary

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Speaker 16: of The Home Alone Mavie coming out.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where that's still terrible.

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Speaker 4: Obviously it came out before I was born, but you

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Speaker 4: know that's let's move on.

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Speaker 3: Rebel Wilson, Australian actress Rebel.

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Speaker 4: Wilson, has been accused of orchestrating a smear campaign against

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Speaker 4: one of the producers of her directorial debut film, The

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Speaker 4: deb It's alleged Wilson was behind a series of websites

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Speaker 4: where her producer Amanda Ghost, is painted as a sex

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Speaker 4: trafficker and described as the Indian Gilain Maxwell.

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Speaker 3: Now, Rebel Wilson sat down with sixty.

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Speaker 4: Minutes Australian sixty Minutes and she denied the claims.

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Speaker 3: Have a look.

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Speaker 13: I don't know whether those texts are real. I don't

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Speaker 13: know where they came from. I read the websites. I

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Speaker 13: think it was very interesting what was on there, and

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Speaker 13: I might have gossiped about it to a couple of friends.

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Speaker 15: But well, the allegation is that you did more than that,

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Speaker 15: that you actually pointed your followers on Instagram to those websites,

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Speaker 15: that you ensure that associates of Amanda Ghost were made

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Speaker 15: aware of the websites that you posted on the deb Instagram.

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Speaker 13: I don't have any memory of doing that.

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Speaker 15: No, you don't remember it. But is it possible that

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Speaker 15: you did that?

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Speaker 3: I don't believe so.

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Speaker 14: No.

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Speaker 3: I do wonder why she agreed to this interview.

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Speaker 4: I don't think she looks great. How do you see it?

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Speaker 4: Because I don't know. If I was advising her, I

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Speaker 4: would say, do not say a word and just ignore

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Speaker 4: this and hope it goes away as quick as it

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Speaker 4: as it arrived, exactly.

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Speaker 16: And I do think with a lot of legal cases,

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Speaker 16: the best thing, and a lot of lawyers will say

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Speaker 16: that's the best thing to do is just shut up

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Speaker 16: and let the thing go through court. And if you're

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Speaker 16: confident in your standpoint or where you stand in the case,

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Speaker 16: then you would be quiet and let it just play

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Speaker 16: through the courts. Whereas we've seen Rebel up on Instagram,

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Speaker 16: she's got about eleven million followers, and she's released statements

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Speaker 16: on there. She's now done this sixty minutes interview the websites.

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Speaker 16: We don't know who was behind those, but it seems

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Speaker 16: that there's a lot of information coming from her side

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Speaker 16: of things.

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Speaker 3: There are two separate cases.

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Speaker 16: There's this one involving three producers and then a separate

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Speaker 16: one involving one of the actresses from the thing. And

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Speaker 16: we have to be very careful because these cases are

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Speaker 16: still yet to come before the court.

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Speaker 3: But I'm a little like you.

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Speaker 16: I'm a little skeptical about the fact that Rebel has

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Speaker 16: got so much to say ahead of it being tested

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Speaker 16: in a court of law.

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Speaker 4: And we're going to be particularly careful because Rebel Wilson

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Speaker 4: is also litigious at a couple of big wins over

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Speaker 4: the years. So we'll let the courts decide who did

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Speaker 4: what DD done.

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Speaker 3: Levy.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your time tonight, and that's

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Speaker 4: it from me. Up next, it's Newsnight. I'll see you

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Speaker 4: tomorrow night at eleven with Douglas Murray.