1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is the Fitsy and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: Caught up with an old teacher the other day from 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 2: primary school. I do love like a teacher. When you 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: get a good teacher, they are a great mentor and 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: they do mean a lot in your life. You look 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: back and you go because usually only get them for 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: one UK. That's the thing. You get a good teacher, 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: then you move on to another teacher the year after, 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 2: so it's always you're always yearning to go back to 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: that teacher. But this teacher is retired. Now I wanted 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: to catch up and I thought why not. And we 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: had a great day. A couple of coffees went out 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: for lunch and he was telling me this is unbelievable. 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: I didn't know this, but in Australia and the government 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: put this forward. It was the State super scheme. Right. 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: So when he started out as a when he started 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: out as a teacher, he was early twenties, right, And 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: he said, if I could, if my principal at the 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: time was still alive, I would kiss him because the 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: principal said to him, convinced him to sign up for 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: the government States Super scheme. Now, this is not it's 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: not around anymore. It finished in nineteen eighty six. But 23 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: basically this was before super annuation was even introduced into Australia, okay. 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: And if you signed up for it, the longer that 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: you worked as a teacher, the more pension that you 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: got when you retired. So it was a scheme to 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: keep teachers around, okay. So he worked as a teacher 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: for over forty years before he retired, Kate, And now 29 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: he said, when I worked so long as a teacher 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: that when I finished, I was getting seventy percent of 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: my final pay, but every year that goes up with 32 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: the cost of living. He now gets fifteen hundred dollars 33 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: a week pension for the rest of his life. I 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: love this so much, Suber. It was taken out in 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six because the government realized we're paying too 36 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: many people and it's too much of an incentive. And 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: he said that there's been other countries that had this 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: this incentive as well, and Greece was one of them 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: and they basically went broke grease. Oh my god, all 40 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: the teachers became kings because of all the pensions. Now, 41 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: now this is working for an Australian government department, right. 42 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 2: So it might be social worker, it could be another department. 43 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: But if you signed up and a lot of people 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: didn't sign up, they're a bit freaked out by it. 45 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: I think there was a certain amount that you had 46 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: to put away here and there. 47 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: Also, when you're starting out too in your career, you 48 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: kind of think, well, every dollar, like you can't really 49 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: see the future back then. 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: I think it's a great incentive though, because you get 51 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: people to stick around and you know what, then they're 52 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: actually when they're finished, because I mean it happens with 53 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: politicians as well. If you get two terms in your 54 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: local electorate day and don't you get a pension for 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: the rest of your life? 56 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: You do? I think you get a driver for the 57 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: rest of your life if you serve two terms. 58 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: It's probably first thirteen twenty fourteen. If these little pensions 59 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: that you've heard of, or schemes or people, the money 60 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: that people are getting even when they've retired from working. 61 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: There was an article getting around last week because the 62 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: guy was doorstopped. He was walking down the street and 63 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: it was like one of those guys on TikTok and 64 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: he goes up and he says, hey, what's your name? 65 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: Good. I'm Darren. 66 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you do for work? 67 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: Down he goes, I'm a teacher. The guy goes, okay, 68 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: full time work. How much are you on and he 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: said one hundred and seventy thousand dollars? 70 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: Is he? Is he a principal? Is he? 71 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, no, but I thought that sort of 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: bucks the trend of what you normally hear regarding, of course, 73 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: teachers salaries. I mean, obviously they're underpaid, you know, for 74 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: the work that they do for other people's kids in 75 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: the hours. They're long hours as well. Teaching is a 76 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: big ask. 77 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: And my teacher, he said, you know what, I went 78 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: through the GFC. I went through all those crashes in 79 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: the global economy, and I was looking at friends around 80 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: me who were really struggling with superannuation. But he said, 81 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: I always knew I was fine with get fifteen hundred 82 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: dollars a week. And now his life is he's very 83 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: close to his family. But he said, you know, my 84 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: life now is just booking a holiday away every year. 85 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: I like to go overseas somewhere different every year. 86 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: Well, it's nice to hear stories like that because we're 87 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: used to hearing you know, I'm just just getting by stories. 88 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: You get to the end of it. It is and 89 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: I think too, as we have parents who are aging you. 90 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: Ideally you see them get to the end of their 91 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: life for the golden years, and you want it to 92 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: be easier, not harder. 93 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: They deserve a kicker, said, I've got in my contract 94 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: here that I get. 95 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: Some the driver you just worried about. You didn't know 96 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: about the attention. 97 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: You just wanted the drive. 98 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: You had three CDs. Once I've left the company. 99 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping CDs come back because I've still got 100 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: some beauties. Gabriel will kill me if she comes back 101 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: and has a new hit song. I Am going to 102 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: make an absolute fortune. 103 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: Whippa with Kate Ritchie is an over podcast. A great 104 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 1: shows like this downloads and overplayer via the app Store 105 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: or Google Play. 106 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: An overplayer