WEBVTT - Best Of: Our Fave Moments With Mob 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.880 I record this podcast on Gaetgol Country. I'd like to 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:04.880 pay my respect to the traditional. 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.560 Custodians and I'm recording o Urando Country, part of the 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:08.280 Cooler Nation. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:09.280 Let's go. 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:15.160 I know you're going to dig this. It's like I've 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:19.279 been given like an extra sprinkle of something. 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:21.640 You've got layers, Yeah, I got layers. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:25.480 I was just thinking, I'm like, we're just such beautiful storytellers. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.560 You're making a lot of sense to that girl. No, 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:30.480 I'm done. 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:32.280 I've been too honest to go. 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.680 All right. We are so excited because we have Leah Purcell, 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.760 who is an internationally acclaimed actor, director, producer and writer 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:43.400 on stage and screen. 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:48.120 Yeah yeah, yeah, my mob Go Gungri and Walker Walker. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:51.600 So that's three three clans from different parts of Australia 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:55.200 due to stolen generations and being you know, my grandparents 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:56.440 being tossed around. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:02.320 With your experience. Now there's so many opportunity opportunities flying 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:07.560 at you, like, how do you navigate that and choose 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.520 what you what you do and what you don't do 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.640 is with what I'd love to know. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.160 You know, I've been what is it thirty three, thirty 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:16.800 four years in the industry now, so you've got to 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.240 earn your stripes. You know, there was times where you 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.399 had to do things because you've got to keep relevant, 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:25.720 You've got to keep your your talent honed, you know, 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.000 your skills up. But it does get to a point 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.480 that the that the roles become repetitive, you know what 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:37.200 I mean. And it is about going what do I 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.440 want to do as a performer, because I was sort 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.880 of going to semi retire from acting and to focus 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.399 on my direction and writing. Just before I got went 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.040 with like, can you believe it? I made this big 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.200 speech debay and I went, right, that's it. I'm going 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.200 to just hang the acting add up for a minute. 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:58.280 And you know, as ye worth in that change. 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.120 And then that phone call went worth to be fair. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.920 And then to get that phone call and you're kidding me? 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.600 And then I and then what are you going to do? Yeah? Oh, 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:09.480 they had me in mind. 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.560 Yeah, of course, I mean it's perfect. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.560 Yeah, And I said, well, if I put my actor's 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.320 hat back on, I said, mate, a television show that's 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:24.040 already established number one drama around the world, a role 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.680 where I collaborated on and they you know, they had 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:27.119 me in moment. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:27.679 They wrote it. 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.000 I would be stupid not to take it, wouldn't I? 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.799 And then away you know that sort of thing of 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.960 course with lost Flowers of Alice Heart. You know, when 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.440 the phone call come in, I went, who's in it? 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:38.799 Big? 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:41.640 That was after I was a big note and going, 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:42.679 I was big, going who's in it? 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:42.919 Who? 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:43.959 Who's the lead? 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.120 Then if I've just got this little support role and 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:51.280 they went Sigourney Weaver owent yep. I said, I will 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:55.519 carry oxygen for her, I will give her water. I'll 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.519 just stand beside her. She can have all my loans 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:01.120 if she wants. Yeah. So that that sort of thing 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.639 where I was wanting to be. But every role that 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:06.880 I take, I want to be challenged. And I think 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.280 that's what that's where I I what I look at 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.040 now in a role is won the writing? 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:13.560 Of course? 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:17.239 Is it something like how much work will I have 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:18.639 to do on the script for someone else? 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:20.120 You know what I mean? 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.959 So I do look at the writing and that that 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.959 that collaboration if if there's an urge to do it. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:32.000 But then someone of Sigourney Weavers, you know, legend Hollywood 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.000 and her talent, and you know, I go, I want 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.840 to be challenged I want to be nervous again. It's 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.600 nice to go in and be nervous, you know on 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.960 your first day when Sigourney Weaver walks in, you know, 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.360 for you growing up? Oh mate, I was, yeah, in Mergan, 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.040 like I think Alien first come out seventy nine, so 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.080 by the time it got to Mergen it was eighty four. 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.760 I was fourteen. Saw her and went and into my 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.320 acting at this stage and I went, oh, my god, 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.960 that's me, Like, I've got to I've got to meet her. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.360 I said, We've got the same jaw, we got curly hair. 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.840 And at that stage when I watched Daily and of 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.240 course they had already started Alien too, but I went, 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.480 there's going to be a second I know it. And 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:10.600 I said, and I'd walk around Morgan going how do 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.760 I get a letter to Hollywood? And they went, what 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.120 do you want to get a letter to Hollywood for? 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:15.560 I said, because I've got to tell them that I 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.040 should play her daughter, because there's a daughter in that 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.200 at the end of that thing, and I think it's 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:20.760 got to be me. 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.320 This is so freaking yeah. 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.520 Yeah, And then I said to her when when we 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.520 met over over Zoom, I was playing very cool as 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.760 you've got to do. And then I went to goourney 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:33.880 before before we go, she because there there anything else 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:35.840 with you? You know, we've talked about the script. And 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.600 I went, yeah, there is one thing I said for 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:40.720 me to be able to do my job right, You're 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.360 going to give me one thing. And she goes, what's 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:46.520 that and I said a fangirl moment and I said, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.280 just one. I got to tell you this good yard. 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.040 So I told her and she kissed us off, laughing 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.560 and yeah. And then it was And that sort of 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.320 broke the eyes for me too, because I could just 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.920 be me, you know, And and she was great. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:04.680 We've got Kirby Bentley in studio today. Kai a Mob, Yes, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:05.400 who's in mob? 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:05.960 Where you're from? 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.200 Nunga Yamaji from Western Australia. I grew up in a 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.599 cracking country. It's renowned as cracking country in Mount Barker. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:14.520 So a country girl, let's. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.760 Go to Survivor talk about the game with us. So 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.960 there's no producer saying to you should do this. 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:25.320 No, wow, no, And I love that because it allows 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.520 you to be creative, to know people and work people. 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.159 And that's the whole reason why I sort of applied 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.320 because I was at a stage in my life where 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.040 I'd gone through a breakup. I had fallen into a 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.680 bit of depression. So it's not just from the breakup, 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.920 but being over here, being by myself as. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.760 Well, away from home, way from country. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.560 Yeah, yeah, and I just I just felt really alone 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.360 and I started to get out of that. And then 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.400 once I applied, I actually didn't. I've never watched it. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:55.279 I've only ever watched our season. 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.560 See, so I had to do what he said. 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.760 I've been watching every country and how. 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.440 These motherfuckers get through this, I don't know. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.360 I wouldn't be good because I can't hold a lie in, 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:08.920 you know, lie. 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.920 So the way that I did it was I would 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.480 tell someone I was working with, Say I was working 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.359 with Brooks for example, I'm like, oh, you tell Ferris 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.160 or you tell Rachel that we're actually gonna write this 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:22.920 person's name. Done. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:23.520 But that's a lie. 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.080 So then I would get Brooks tell on how she 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.160 would lie. So when she would lie to me, I 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:32.520 would see what she's doing, so I would just avoid that. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:34.839 Okay, that's so. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:38.360 Good ione to know how brook lies, which is which 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:39.680 is what I'm looking for. 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:45.760 How do I think I find like I can't really lie, 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:51.680 but if I am lying to protect someone, I will. 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:52.440 I can. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.320 It's very different. Is it is very different. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:58.520 If it's to protect someone else and it's to take 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:01.160 care of them because I care about them, I can 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.760 do it. But if it's to lie because I'm protecting myself, fuck, 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.600 I'm done. Like oh, it's like like you know, it's 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.720 it's a bit uncomfortable, but I've also I feel like 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.840 it's such a survival thing too, like me like not 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.280 to use the fun like you know. I feel like 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:21.280 in my my younger years in high school sometimes I 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.080 had to lie, you know. I had to lie to 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.560 the department to protect my mom. I had to lie 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.520 to school teachers to protect my brothers, you know. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.080 And that happens to school saying they're like, what does 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:33.920 your dad do? My dad didn't work, you know, stick 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.320 picker on the farm, and I was like, he's a detective. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:41.760 Oh my god, yeah, and you'd try to Yeah, we 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.080 talked about this and he got. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.440 Caught when he came to school and they were like, 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.040 your dad's really a detective. I was like, yes, under cover, 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:52.920 so good. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.640 And okay, so you've just gone to worlds so you've 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.360 just come back. How do you also? Can I ask 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.000 a dumb question? No question is a dumb question. 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.320 What do you eat? Like? 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.160 I've been asked to do a survivor, but I have 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.680 also rejected it many times because I just don't think 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:12.800 that I could starve myself. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.320 Well, technically, you don't starve yourself when they would never 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.520 let that happen, right, perfect, But they give you a Russians. 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.400 They give you enough Russians to feed your tribe. So 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.880 there's fourteen on a tribe. There's rice, and there's beans. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.800 And if our first three days it rained, we had 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.959 no shelter, which meant that we're wet. There was no 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.800 wood to light fires, which means we didn't eat. So 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:41.199 you can't cook food with wood, right, So it's on 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.360 you whether you cook it it, whether you eat it, 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.840 whether you don't. And there's coconuts like you can eat. 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:47.920 You're obviously really hungry, and you smell. 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.560 You smell so bad. 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:52.760 Not today you smell. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.960 So there's no light coming in with the quick fix 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.199 and the producers going, we've got a little gas. 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:03.120 Sto absolutely no rice off, rude, no so whatever, So 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.520 we're shaving. Can you shave no, you can't brush your teeth, 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.240 you can't shave, there's no soap. If you lose your clothes, 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:10.160 you lose your clothes. 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:14.559 That's all you have, won't so we pay. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.079 We take seven items or nine items, and if you 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.680 lose them, like one of the one of our contestants, 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.160 throw another contestants close out. So that's all she had, 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:28.200 So she was missing strategic I don't know if they 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:32.000 liked each other that much. So yeah, she ended up 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:40.319 throwing it out and this Kelly you jo names. She's like, 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.679 I can't find my clothes anywhere, and I think someone's 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.760 throwing them out. I was like, I think someone's throwing 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.640 them out as well. And we're freezing out ALFs off too, 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:52.240 So she's standing in like her baby bottoms and Raymond's 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.720 T shirt. So that's all the clothes. So once they're gone, 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.480 they don't get replaced. Nothing gets replaced. I burned socks 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:00.760 by accident. They didn't get in a place and it 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:05.000 gets cold. But I recommend playing it though, yeah. 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.800 Yeah, yeah, so wait love of the game if you 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.319 haven't watched it, yeah, In terms. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.319 Of the crew, so bird's eye view, there's a camp 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.880 and then is there like producers and TV directors and 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.120 everyone around set. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:23.720 You know, there's there's a camera with a producer like obviously, 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.760 because that's how they catch us, catch the filming. And 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.240 we're not at a talk without without a camera. Otherwise 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:32.079 the game isn't played right because they don't get to 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.440 pick up on any conversations that might have been had 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.320 that results in somebody leaving for example. Yeah, so no camera, 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:38.920 no talking. 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.520 How many cameras too, Oh it could be up to 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.040 like six seven, quite a few, Yeah. 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:46.760 Getting every one's conversations. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.880 Yeah. And yeah. In terms of the idols, are they 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.319 like strategically placed and you can see them putting them there? 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:53.959 Or no? 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.880 Absolutely not because I'm a tracker and I could not 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.800 find one. I looked and I needed one I needed 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.880 I needed five of them, but yeah, I couldn't find 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.199 them anyway to save myself. So wow, I was just 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.160 relying on my gameplay and my manipulation. 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.959 Yeah, and people went you went far like you were 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:17.280 top five? Yeah, and then who got you out? 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:18.120 I was. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:19.199 I was very lucky. 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:23.640 I managed to play big and be able to step back, 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.760 and people wanted to, you know, play their game as well, 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.319 So I sort of moved in ebbs and flows with that, 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.679 and then eventually I got to a tribal council. I 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.200 don't know if you watched it, Maddy, but Alex started 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.480 to just be like, Kirby's the biggest player, and I 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:41.120 was like, shut your mouth, Alex, keep your lips tight 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:42.320 like what I were doing. 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:49.720 Yeah I wish, I wish. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.079 I could, but no. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.520 Yeah, so he just threw me under the table completely, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.120 and then from then they just wanted me gone. So 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:01.360 I was relying on winning necklaces and yes, staying on 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.199 top of things. But I ended up getting to the 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:08.040 fifth last tribal council and Ferris was going to play 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.719 his idol for me up until he had said I'm 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.320 not scared of Kirby, like I wouldn't flinch, and then 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.440 he looked at at the jury villa and they all 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:21.599 looked at each other like he's nuts, Like absolutely, you 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:26.160 should be flinching, And then I think you're backtracked, so yeah, 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:27.480 hang out and then. 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:32.000 Yeah, wow, okay, yeah, in terms of worlds, what. 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.280 Can you tell us? Yeah, what can you anything different 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.760 about the game? I mean, it's Survivor people from all 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:37.680 over the world, right. 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:41.600 Yeah, it is it's World Survivor seven Australian seven World 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.319 players and it was fast play. It was filmed that 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:49.240 the entire game was sixteen days and it was hectic. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:50.840 It was so much fun. 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:55.719 Sixteen days yeah, two weeks just yeah, it's amazing. So 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.240 Queen Kirby and King George, how did they go? 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.560 Yeah, because you guys are big? 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:08.880 Uh no, no, so King George actually helped Ferris like 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.839 sort of mentor mentored him port going out. They're not 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.360 like I didn't know anyone when I went. My sole 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.000 goal was not to get voted off first. 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.599 That was itau the Black Fellows always. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.720 Do like movies when Black Fellows die first. 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:23.959 If I ever done a reality TV show in my 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.120 contract will be not the first step. 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:30.640 You're gonna have to play well, we'll have to go 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:32.720 out there with bloodsbee water or something. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.520 Oh my life. I would love to, but I would 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.640 also just be hilarious, like I feel like when I 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:41.840 mean hilarious, like they'd be like, oh, this blackfellow should 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:46.040 now to survive. Could I get a towel? Yeah, blanket, 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.160 you have the hair dry? 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.040 That's crazy. I mean I really want to do it. 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.079 I feel like I will like take a bit of 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.080 Kirby mentality into that game. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.679 I'll be like, Okay, I'm here surviving literally I mean 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:01.960 some im and for sixty thousand. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.360 Plus year the big spill at the end, I mean 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.800 here for sixty thousand plus years. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:11.080 Run through my veins. 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.560 My name is Lela. I am a very proud West 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.520 Paplind woman. My dad comes from Biak Island in West 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.320 Papua and my mother is from the one Dumma tribe 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:25.360 in West Papla as well. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:31.680 Beautiful Yamiyama, I'm mitched Tambo praud gonroy Man and yes, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.200 I honored to be here today to share and yearm 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:34.600 with you too. 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:39.720 Deadly Mob twenty nineteen. Obviously you know the Australia's got talent. Yes, 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:40.960 tell me about that experience. 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.760 Yeah. Look, I got asked to appear on the show 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.160 after maybe doing like three of my very first live 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.840 shows as a so called singer songwriter. They reached out 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.760 and said, let's do it. You know, let's see what 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.760 let's see what happens, see if we can survive it. 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.320 And little did I know, some gold confetti was going 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.440 to rain down upon me and we'll go to the 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.320 next round and end up taking on your the voice, 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.640 which was it was a crazy journey. I obviously let 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.440 as my wife. She was with me throughout this big journey, 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.400 and I remember sort of taking it on, just going, man, 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.920 this is kind of like, you know, the unsung anthem. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.840 Of every B and S ball out in the bush. 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:17.440 I don't know, I don't know how this is going 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.120 to go for me right now, let's do it. It's 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.160 like the most karaoke song you'll ever come across. And 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.280 we went for it, and yeah, it's just it's been 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:26.160 an incredible chourning. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:27.720 But you translated it, didn't you? 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.560 From my memory, yes, yes, I got the song. I 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.240 was put on the table. You know, should we do this? 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.160 I said, yeah, let's do it. So we translated. I 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.520 got with Arnie Burnaett Duncan out there and Boggabilla shout 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.480 out to arn and translated and put it out there 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.200 and the rest is kind of history. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:45.920 That's crazy. Were you really proud? 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:47.480 So right? 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.200 Where were you sitting like in it? Were you behind 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:52.120 or were you so? 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.800 I wasn't there at the first audition. 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:56.840 No, you left me to go do a gig and 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:59.920 how dare you go to come first? Going to pay 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.520 ver and singing and I'm just there alone in some 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:05.840 bathroom trying to just remember the lyrics. 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:08.240 But I was. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:09.440 I'm very proud. 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:13.280 And yeah, I wasn't able to be there for a 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.560 few of the big performances, but I was definitely there 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.680 in spirit, and I was always on the phone. But yeah, 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.360 I think it was the final, the final. I was 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.360 there in the crowd and I. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.400 Thought, you got who? 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:30.640 Yeah? 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.560 What was my placement in the end? 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.000 I yes, great, I think I made the finals and 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:36.000 they gave me the boot. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:38.280 Who was judging. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:43.760 Nicole from Cat Dolls? Yeah, she was up My biggest 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:50.640 supporter on the show. Shane Shane from the toilet, Shane 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.360 How from the toilet, from the toilet? 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:53.680 What do you mean from the toilet? 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:58.520 Kenny Kenny, Yeah, yeah, toilet Yeah. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:16:59.480 Music. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.080 Sorry, I'm terrible surnames. I'm like Shane Jacobs. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:02.360 That's it. 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:04.320 I'm saying, Shane how I just make sure. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:05.000 There are people listen. 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.720 Yeah, sorry, Shane, I saw you the other weekend with 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.320 Sundays and it's out right now. And who else mine? 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:11.879 Who? Ye? 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.680 And I'm so bad with names. There was the I'm 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.240 going to say, sister, I shouldn't say sister. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:23.520 But Lucy, oh yeah Lucy from Wicked. Yes, yes, physical 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.440 she did. Glinda Glinda pretty sure. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.240 I'm going to say yeah, X Factor Glindough. 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.880 Well that was what year was that, twenty seven nineteen. 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.439 I was on Look a long time and. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:43.800 Like, how has music changed like since for you, like 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:44.800 from that experience. 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:46.919 Yeah, Look, it's changed heaps. Because obviously when I went 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:51.159 on there, I had no sort of intention to end up, 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.240 you know, signed one of the biggest record labels in 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.480 the world and go on this crazy journey. At the time, 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.960 I just really wanted to just share culture and just 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.119 really showed. My whole intention of going on there was 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.600 just to show the world and wider community that our 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:05.960 culture is alive, it's thriving, and you know, you can 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:07.720 have light skin and look like me and be a 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.760 proud blackfellow and carry culture because I think a lot 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.159 of the times, people you know that don't know much 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.879 about us, they look for someone that's visibly black to 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:17.840 go I'm going to get culture from you, because you know, 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:19.680 but in the way that things have happened, you could 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.720 see someone that appears that way and they know nothing, 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.280 unfortunately because they've been taken away or things have happened, 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:25.800 or you can see someone like me that's light and 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.440 you've been lucky to grow up in community and have 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.920 a great immersion, you know, and understanding. So I just 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:32.760 really wanted to get out there and just represent and 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:34.800 be true to me and be all of who I am. 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:38.040 And I had no idea of what was around the 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:39.920 corner and what was about to happen. 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.879 Yeah, well, the nation really connected with that performance. You know, 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:44.840 you're the voice, so you obviously then went on to 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.760 perform it around the country, you know, at big events 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.120 like the NRL and stuff. So has that moment would 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.000 you say that was the like the the moment that 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:58.119 sort of was the springboard into music for you because 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.440