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Speaker 2: We pay our respects to the traditional custodians of this

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Speaker 2: You've got an eyelash on your cheek? Love? Do I

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Speaker 2: do I make a wish? Or do you? Oh? Hang

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Speaker 2: I got to get it. Okay, it is wish? Well,

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Speaker 2: I wish for a you know what I wish for? Actually,

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Speaker 2: I wish for deep slate, dol, I wish for deep slate.

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Speaker 2: So actually, you know what? This is such a good

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Speaker 2: little close friends topic.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so wait before we get stuck, can I say something.

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Speaker 1: I just want to let the Scrollers know that we're

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Speaker 1: recording into my phone today. So if today's episode sounds

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I had have I rent over for dinner

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Speaker 2: last week. And you know how, I'm like always tired.

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Speaker 2: I'm just that friend, Like, how are you? I'm fucking tired,

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Speaker 2: I'm exhausted. I'm so tired. You know that's me? Like

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Speaker 2: if you ask me how I am tired and I am.

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Speaker 3: Like, how many hours sleep are you getting a night?

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Speaker 2: Right? We'll get there, okay. So basically they've come over

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Speaker 2: But all day, what have I done? I've done nothing.

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Speaker 3: And did you sleep okay the night before?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Like I've slept fine all week, Like it's been fine.

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Speaker 2: I'm like okay, And so we looked at my sleep

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Speaker 1: You've got like, yeah, you m the light the deep.

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Speaker 3: Is it writing to you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just blowing a gale. Definition, I've got to

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Speaker 2: Given gala blow job. Yeah, basically we look at the

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Speaker 1: What the fucking heck gay people being able to donate blood.

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Speaker 1: Because I've always said I want to donate blood, like

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Speaker 3: Other shit that we've been saying, do it quite often. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I need to do a Scrollers blood donations. Wrong, let's

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Speaker 2: Yes, a little bit where you can donate all our

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Speaker 2: I'm getting twelve to fifteen minutes on average because obviously

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Speaker 3: We were outside not America.

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Speaker 3: And I said, you don't even drink that much.

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Speaker 2: So I checked in the cover and I had this

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Speaker 2: but there's like a hot chocolate and it's like helps

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Speaker 3: This helps me see I have the best sleeper.

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting. Check your ingredients everyone on all your

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Speaker 3: If it's MAGNESI I actually saw.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was in a TikTok, but

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Speaker 2: It's not like I go to bed like there's nothing.

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Speaker 3: Do you read like intense books?

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Speaker 2: No? No, it's like fun, fun little you know, gay romance. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's very very strange. There was one thing though, like

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Speaker 2: it was like, keep the room between fifteen and eighteen

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Speaker 1: That's bloody freezing because think about when you go.

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Speaker 2: To a hotel and you put the aircon on sixteen

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Speaker 3: Yes, but they reckon that. It's like classical strip and.

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Speaker 2: But they think that that's the correct temperature. And I

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Speaker 2: I don't want like products. I want things that you're doing.

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Speaker 2: So don't give me products like a lemmy sleep or

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Speaker 2: you've done anything like maybe the blue light blocking glasses

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Speaker 1: You need to do one of those videos on tikchok Matt,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you post a photo of you and

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Speaker 1: on the screen it's like, all right, I need your

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Speaker 1: most unhinged sleeping hacket. Not drinking hot chocolate before bed,

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Speaker 1: but your most unhinged things that you've done that's changed

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Speaker 3: You need to do that with that, Like, m Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know if everyone knows, but there's this trend at the moment.

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Speaker 1: You should do that, Okay, because that'll blow up and

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Speaker 1: you'll get.

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Speaker 3: Lots of packs.

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Speaker 2: Well hopefully fingers crossed. Anyway, best of luck to me

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Speaker 2: and my sleeping will see you next Tuesday.